Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: Let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on Wrestling Over Live. We are here every day
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, now Pacific three e sterns Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: sixth Eastern. It's Monday here on this show. And we
Speaker 1: got a lot to talk about, don't we. This weekend
Speaker 1: there were eight thousand shows. We had Rampage, we had
Speaker 1: Battle of the Belts, we had SmackDown, we had Bound
Speaker 1: for Glory, we had Extreme Rules, we had the return
Speaker 1: of Bray Wyatt. We gotta get into all of that.
Speaker 1: And on top of that, we got news, a lot
Speaker 1: of news, including returns at expected returns. Well, Bray White returned,
Speaker 1: as we know, also likely to be returning soon, the
Speaker 1: Good Brothers Bo Dallas is on his way back, and
Speaker 1: as we'll talk about later, it's kind of interesting because
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of a lot of talk
Speaker 1: about certain things going on in a w and they're
Speaker 1: guys there not a lot of them, but we know
Speaker 1: there are a few names that they wanted to get
Speaker 1: out and they wanted to go back to w w E.
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons that they wanted to get
Speaker 1: out and go back to w w E was a
Speaker 1: Vince was gone and they had faith in Triple H
Speaker 1: that they did not have in in Vince McMahon. And also,
Speaker 1: you know, when they were in w w E, they
Speaker 1: worked a lot more, and they work a lot less
Speaker 1: in a W And some some people in a W
Speaker 1: would be perfectly happy working less and making a lot
Speaker 1: of money. Other people want to work a lot And
Speaker 1: the irony here is what everybody has talked about in
Speaker 1: a W as my god, there's so much talent. There's
Speaker 1: more talent than you've got enough TV to do stuff
Speaker 1: with everybody. It's just you can't do it. There's there's
Speaker 1: too many people. Well, here we are adding, adding, adding,
Speaker 1: adding the w w E. And you know, it's great
Speaker 1: for the people that are now employed again, but we
Speaker 1: are literally gonna end up in the exact same situation
Speaker 1: where there's too much talent and not enough television time.
Speaker 1: And then of course, you know, ultimately it's gonna this
Speaker 1: will end up evening out between people who wanting to
Speaker 1: go to a W stay in w w E. But
Speaker 1: it is. It is interesting how this is all moving
Speaker 1: forward here anyway. Back in a moment, Mikes REVIVI joins
Speaker 1: us hopefully press overlive back in the show, Bran ober
Speaker 1: is here Wrestling Observer Alive, Mike's and Burviv also Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. Well, you know, we had Extreme Rules
Speaker 1: the other day, and you'll never guess what happened at
Speaker 1: the end of Extreme Rules. Everybody bray why it's returned?
Speaker 1: W w E. Bray White, I guess is the White Rabbit.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not. You know, he's got a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on. I don't know what's going on, but
Speaker 1: I do know that Bray White is back, and I
Speaker 1: do know if you watched the end of the show,
Speaker 1: they had bray White singing He's got the whole world
Speaker 1: in his hands, and then they cut around the building
Speaker 1: and there was the Buzzard, there was the Fat Pig
Speaker 1: Huscus and various other critters and creatures and two sets
Speaker 1: of women's tag team titles. I guess one set of
Speaker 1: tag team titles. And there's been a lot of people
Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's going on. It's a puzzle
Speaker 1: my design, and I don't know what's going on? And
Speaker 1: they did a they did a Ronda Rousey Live Morgan match,
Speaker 1: and they had this finish where I don't even know
Speaker 1: what happened. I could not, for the life of me
Speaker 1: figure out that finish. But whatever, whatever that disaster was,
Speaker 1: what happened was run to one and then live. As
Speaker 1: she was passing out with smiling, I thought she was
Speaker 1: laughing because the finish was so botched. But apparently after
Speaker 1: the match was over and they cut away, she sat
Speaker 1: in the ring and she laughed for a while. So
Speaker 1: now everyone's trying to figure out this this mystery. And
Speaker 1: you know, I always talked about the lore of the Fiend.
Speaker 1: That was a term that was used on my timeline once,
Speaker 1: the lore of the Fiend. And as much as I
Speaker 1: mock that, the fact is there is lore regarding the Fiend.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, they got a story,
Speaker 1: and apparently it's a long one and there will be
Speaker 1: twists and turns, and it's gonna go likely through WrestleMania,
Speaker 1: and it will involve bray Huskus, the Fat Big and
Speaker 1: I'm sure Sister Abigail and I'm sure Alexa Bliss will
Speaker 1: figure in and maybe live more again. And maybe the
Speaker 1: returning bow Dallice, who is in fact on his way back.
Speaker 1: I cannot believe how much people God bless the guy.
Speaker 1: I got nothing against bow Dallas, but man, I just
Speaker 1: threw out on my to my super followers that I
Speaker 1: had heard from multiple sources at bow Dallas was coming back. Man,
Speaker 1: that exploded my face. I was like, it's bow Dallas.
Speaker 1: Apparently it's a big deal. Bo Dallas is on his
Speaker 1: way back, and we'll see where this all goes with
Speaker 1: the Fiend, because you know, they said about the Fiend,
Speaker 1: they said, you know a lot of this really dumb
Speaker 1: stuff that you don't like about the Fiend character, the
Speaker 1: magic and the goofiness and the worms and all that,
Speaker 1: that was all Vince. That's what people have said. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, Vince is gone, and so we're gonna
Speaker 1: find out, maybe starting tonight, if that was true or
Speaker 1: if that's just what people said the place blame on
Speaker 1: how stupid some of that stuff was. We're gonna find
Speaker 1: out soon enough. Now what we might, Yes, we will.
Speaker 1: I make movies to pal Hey it's w w A
Speaker 1: And for anything you want to say about it. They
Speaker 1: sunk some time and effort and some money into that production.
Speaker 1: At the end of that show, did do Matt Riddle
Speaker 1: and Seth rollins any favors? No, but who cares. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter. That's what the whole thing was
Speaker 1: building up to. They can do the video package on
Speaker 1: Seth and Riddle and make you think that was the
Speaker 1: greatest ending in the world. Nothing happened after it, but
Speaker 1: it was all about getting to that with Bray and
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Do these characters come to life?
Speaker 1: Are they just going to go back into whatever form
Speaker 1: that they were in before. Is it's going to be
Speaker 1: a lot of the spooky and the supernatural as it
Speaker 1: was before. I guess We're just gonna have to see.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give it a chance, but I'm not
Speaker 1: as over the moon about it as some people are.
Speaker 1: Certainly not as over the moon about it as whoever
Speaker 1: was controlling the voice over of the crowd, because the
Speaker 1: sweetening that seemed to take place during that show was
Speaker 1: epic at times. But I know he did get a
Speaker 1: good reaction coming back. Look, people will forget about the
Speaker 1: new thing or the old thing if the new thing
Speaker 1: is good, So I'm willing to go for the ride. Here,
Speaker 1: But you've got to prove yourself to me. I'm just
Speaker 1: not going to give it to you and expect this
Speaker 1: thing to be great, because, as we talked talked about
Speaker 1: with the Art House thing, you know, if people don't
Speaker 1: react well to this or there are skeptics about it,
Speaker 1: how can you blame them? Look at the way you
Speaker 1: buried everybody, and it's again not his fault intentionally, but
Speaker 1: how much the bray white character hurt the product and
Speaker 1: hurt people. So you know, people are a little skeptical
Speaker 1: about it. You gotta expect that if you're w W,
Speaker 1: it's not people that are hating or anything like that.
Speaker 1: He and WW have got to prove themselves with this thing,
Speaker 1: and we'll see what happens. It looks like it's going
Speaker 1: to be though also for some of the people listening
Speaker 1: out here with short detention spans, they look like they
Speaker 1: may be spending a lot of time on this. So
Speaker 1: all these clues and things like this that sort of
Speaker 1: slight of hand and that sort of psychology in this story,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be something that you can
Speaker 1: just kind of blow off. It's something that's gonna be
Speaker 1: looks like it's gonna be embedded heavily week after week,
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be something they have a long term
Speaker 1: plan for. Well, the show, we had the brawling brutes
Speaker 1: beating Imperium seventeen minutes and fifty seconds in a good
Speaker 1: old fashioned Donnie Brooke match. I cannot recommend this match more.
Speaker 1: If you're asking me what did I miss? What should
Speaker 1: I see? Well, what you should see is the old
Speaker 1: the good old fat, not just an old fashioned, a
Speaker 1: good old fashion. I would call it a great old
Speaker 1: fashioned Donnie brook match. It was awesome, brawling brutes got
Speaker 1: the win, and just violence and hitting people really hard
Speaker 1: and safe places, which is my favorite kind of hitting,
Speaker 1: and it was very good. Run Da Rousey beat Live
Speaker 1: Morgan in an extreme rules match lives lives. I mean
Speaker 1: she's got to be turning heel or something, because man,
Speaker 1: they have done her zero or they're incompetent. I mean
Speaker 1: it's one or the other. They have done her no favors.
Speaker 1: She gets in there as a baby face. She's afraid
Speaker 1: to face Run Da Rousey one on one, even though
Speaker 1: the story is she's the only person to ever beat
Speaker 1: her twice. She has to run for her bat. She
Speaker 1: finally gets a hold of the bat and run to
Speaker 1: beats her ass and then she beats her and she
Speaker 1: beats her and she beats her, live gets a little
Speaker 1: bit of heat. Runda beats or beats her, beats her,
Speaker 1: submits her, and wins the title back. So what a
Speaker 1: You know, that moment where she won money in the
Speaker 1: bank was like a fantastic moment and the cash in
Speaker 1: was great and it was vince. They had no earthly
Speaker 1: idea what to do with liv Morrigan, and so they
Speaker 1: gave her that other win over Rhonda, which was totally lame.
Speaker 1: And you just knew this day was coming, and it
Speaker 1: has come, and now we need to move on to
Speaker 1: something else. Wait a second before you move on anything else,
Speaker 1: this just hit me. Who is her? Is she with?
Speaker 1: Because I don't know he can keep up with a
Speaker 1: lot of wrestler's personal lives. Is she with bow Dallas? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean that's certainly the rumor, but I have not
Speaker 1: been in their farm, so I cannot. Ah, that's right,
Speaker 1: it was the farm that he was going to retire to. Hmm.
Speaker 1: You know he was all about believing and her whole
Speaker 1: thing with her character has been she loses a lot
Speaker 1: and screws up a lot and takes big els, but
Speaker 1: she always believed in herself that she was going to
Speaker 1: come back. M I wonder if that all ties together,
Speaker 1: we will We will find out, now, won't we. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm about ready to retire to a farm. We had
Speaker 1: Karen Cross and Drew mcatarians trap match. They had ten minutes.
Speaker 1: They have farms in Hawaii. I would say, yeah, of
Speaker 1: course you do. I would say that this match was good.
Speaker 1: I would not say the match was great. I thought
Speaker 1: that Drew McIntyre was pretty great. I thought the carrying
Speaker 1: cross was fine. A strap the heck out of each other,
Speaker 1: and carrying Cross ended up beating Drew when Scarlet sprayed
Speaker 1: pepper spray into the eyes of Drew mcatire. Because if
Speaker 1: you haven't figured out the feud, they're working the eye.
Speaker 1: I didn't know you could soften up an eye, but
Speaker 1: that's what they're doing. Haven't you been watching? The next day,
Speaker 1: Bianca bell Air beat Bailey in a ladder match. They
Speaker 1: went sixteen minutes. I thought they did a good job.
Speaker 1: I thought they worked hard. I thought the match was good.
Speaker 1: I would not say that it was great. Bianc ended
Speaker 1: up the whole Heel crew ran in control whatever the
Speaker 1: damage control, and they you know, Oscar is injured and
Speaker 1: I don't know what's up with Alexa, so Bianc had
Speaker 1: to run them all off on her own and then
Speaker 1: she climbed up after hitting Bailey with her finish on ladder,
Speaker 1: got the belt and won, so she is still the champion.
Speaker 1: Finn Balor beat Edge and I quit match. You know
Speaker 1: the finish first off. The first twenty minutes of this
Speaker 1: just the longest most nothing happened in match ever. Last
Speaker 1: ten minutes when everybody ran in, it was actually a
Speaker 1: great dramatic story. And then Edge quit after they threatened
Speaker 1: who can share to his wife? And then after he quit,
Speaker 1: they did it anyway. Heat. I don't want to hear
Speaker 1: about crowd, sweetie. I got some heat back in a
Speaker 1: moment of VI's ever live back in the show. Bryan
Speaker 1: Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live miximbur Vibe also Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. So that Finn Bale or Edge match. Obviously,
Speaker 1: everybody ran in and first the Heels run in, and
Speaker 1: then Ray runs in, and then Ray gets laid out,
Speaker 1: and then Beth runs in and Beth actually killed everybody
Speaker 1: was a great comeback and then Edges handcuffed to the
Speaker 1: ropes and she helps him, but then she gets knocked
Speaker 1: out by Rhea. Edge gets beat up and held down
Speaker 1: and they do the big threat. You either say I
Speaker 1: quit or man, we're gonna give her this concerto and
Speaker 1: he he's forced to say I quit, and they go
Speaker 1: say it again, and so he's gotta say it twice,
Speaker 1: which they actually you know, for those of you that
Speaker 1: still and you know, it's fine. I got a little
Speaker 1: PTSD two. But this storytelling is clearly way better with
Speaker 1: Triple Ahs than with Vince because this whole this has
Speaker 1: all been these these seeds have been planted for a while.
Speaker 1: What's happened in this feud, Well, the Judgment Day has
Speaker 1: been going after Edge and Ray and they're trying to
Speaker 1: recruit AJ styles a j doesn't want to join. Finn
Speaker 1: wants him to do the gimmick and he doesn't want
Speaker 1: to do it. And last week they're building up the
Speaker 1: eye quit match and Edge makes it very clear, there's
Speaker 1: nothing that you can physically do to me. There's no
Speaker 1: amount of pain that you can put me in where
Speaker 1: I will say I quit. And of course now we
Speaker 1: know why. Well, he quit because he was trying to
Speaker 1: save his wife, and the finish obviously sets up uh Rea,
Speaker 1: Ripley and Beth down the road. It sets up mixed
Speaker 1: tags down the road. And what we've also got going here,
Speaker 1: a secondary storyline is that Finnbalor wants a J to
Speaker 1: join him and the Judgment Day, and after they beat
Speaker 1: him up, who will edge? Who will will a J
Speaker 1: bring in to counter the Judgment Day? And I cannot say,
Speaker 1: I cannot say that the Good Brothers are heading to
Speaker 1: w w E, but I'm pretty sure the Good Brothers
Speaker 1: are heading to w w E because they are finished
Speaker 1: with Impact wrestling. That is confirmed, and so their options
Speaker 1: are like a w New Japan or w w E.
Speaker 1: And within w w E, the belief is the Good
Speaker 1: Brothers are coming in. And if you look at the
Speaker 1: J storyline going back weeks, I mean, I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty clear they've been planting the seeds for a J
Speaker 1: and the Good Brothers to reunite, and they take on
Speaker 1: Finnbalor and Damien Priest and Dominic in six man matches,
Speaker 1: and you've got a few there as well, so you
Speaker 1: can see that they are planting seeds and they are
Speaker 1: paying those things off and they're not just dropping stuff.
Speaker 1: So this is an improvement over the Vince regime. And
Speaker 1: it's fascinating because when are they coming in? Does Carl
Speaker 1: Anderson drop the never title first? I believe that he
Speaker 1: will drop the never title first, So there's that, you know,
Speaker 1: which could be Look, that could be an interesting thing
Speaker 1: too if w w E just lets that go a
Speaker 1: little bit past so they can say that they were
Speaker 1: being you know, benevolent and look at how gracious we
Speaker 1: are with this crossover sea. We can do that sort
Speaker 1: of thing too. Um you know, I think would be
Speaker 1: thinking more like you that they're gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: have him drop the title beforehand. But you never know,
Speaker 1: You're never know in this new era of things. But
Speaker 1: it also interested me that could you do for a
Speaker 1: Survivor series. I would love to see this. And I
Speaker 1: know you have the caveat in w w E that
Speaker 1: you can't have man on woman, but one person that
Speaker 1: one woman that's actually had man on woman violence happened
Speaker 1: to them because of Randy Orton giving her the r
Speaker 1: k O is Beth Phoenix. And if the Good Brothers
Speaker 1: come in and you have Ray Mysterio and you have
Speaker 1: aj styles A great fifth person would be Beth Phoenix,
Speaker 1: and you have Ria Ripley on the other side with
Speaker 1: Finnvalor and Dominic, and I guess you would have to
Speaker 1: get somebody else to pair along with them, alongside Damien Prie.
Speaker 1: So to me, I would love to have something like
Speaker 1: that actually happened, because Beth being back is great. Beth
Speaker 1: in small doses doing anything is fantastic. And I thought
Speaker 1: how everything came across on Saturday night or Sunday night
Speaker 1: at it was great. And then we had met Riddle
Speaker 1: and Seth Rawlins in the main event, a fight pit
Speaker 1: match with Daniel Cormier's a special referee, and Daniel Cormier
Speaker 1: was just a special referee, and he did a couple
Speaker 1: of spots early and then he stayed out of the way.
Speaker 1: They had one questionable spot with him at the end,
Speaker 1: which was when Seth took a curb stomp and instead
Speaker 1: of just counting like he was supposed to, Daniel Cormier
Speaker 1: made sure he was okay first and then counted, which
Speaker 1: they played up in storyline as why did he do that?
Speaker 1: And Seth is yelling at him and the announcers are
Speaker 1: questioning him and Ultimately, you know, it made sense that
Speaker 1: Daniel and Seth would have a confrontation at the end
Speaker 1: and Mike Tyson would punch out Seawan Michaels didn't happen. Instead,
Speaker 1: Matt Riddle got the big win, and man, those lights
Speaker 1: went out immediately. This was this was old school t
Speaker 1: n A to the back, and they did the return
Speaker 1: of Bray White. We never saw Seth again, we never
Speaker 1: saw Riddle again. So even though Riddle got his big win,
Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't really make a big deal out
Speaker 1: of it. And Seth rawlins. I'm sure it's gonna go
Speaker 1: to raw tonight and I would expect he'll beat Bobby
Speaker 1: Lashley for the the US title, and I think he
Speaker 1: has the US title, right, is the U S or
Speaker 1: Intercontinental US? Right? Yes? Yeah, because Old Gunter's the inter
Speaker 1: Continental champions still. Who beat Shamus by the way, So yeah,
Speaker 1: this was a This was a good match. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: call it was a great match. I wouldn't say it
Speaker 1: was a great match. So really what she had on
Speaker 1: this show was good match, long match with a great finish.
Speaker 1: Good match, good match, not so good match, awesome match.
Speaker 1: And that's the story of Extreme A Store a tale
Speaker 1: of extremes. Although we did not get the horrible match
Speaker 1: on this show, it feels like the fingertips of Paul
Speaker 1: Hayman kind of all into that storyline with dominic A
Speaker 1: j and Ray and Edge and everybody being involved in there,
Speaker 1: And what a better place than Philadelphia to actually have
Speaker 1: that kind of drama. It actually worked out really well
Speaker 1: there in that crowd was fantastic as well too, because
Speaker 1: I know somebody pointed out, hey, you know, the sweetening
Speaker 1: was loud. Maybe the sweetening was loud because the crowd
Speaker 1: was actually loud and they really wanted to amplify it.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was actually a really good night
Speaker 1: for them, And as far as getting some interest going
Speaker 1: leading into Raw, they did as good of a job
Speaker 1: as they can, even though they're really at the mercy
Speaker 1: of football tonight anyway. But for their fans, that's how
Speaker 1: you gotta look at it. For their fans, they're at
Speaker 1: least trying. Come on, bros, who cares about miss and
Speaker 1: Gritty and Dexter anybody? He's a big deal, dude, Now,
Speaker 1: come on, Pritty is a big deal. Pretty could be
Speaker 1: the new San Diego Chicken if they wanted him to
Speaker 1: get out of the wall. Watch. Hey, a lot of
Speaker 1: people thought Pete Rose could be underneath that thing. He
Speaker 1: needs the money all the time for good reason, seemingly
Speaker 1: not a good guy. I hope this someday people say
Speaker 1: something like that about me. Hey, he could be the
Speaker 1: new Chicken. Not a good guy, not a good They'll
Speaker 1: probably say he was a chicken and not a good guy.
Speaker 1: Chicken Chest a great guy, whether you like it or not.
Speaker 1: Are you Mr Benevolent? And x T Tonight we've got
Speaker 1: friends call you a sociopath, which I gotta name one.
Speaker 1: I gotta be Craig. Craig doesn't count. You are a
Speaker 1: sociopath and psychopath. You are an incredible balance of that.
Speaker 1: But you always pay on time. I gotta give you
Speaker 1: that one for sure too. And x T Tomorrow night
Speaker 1: has got braun Breaker against uh, what's his name, Big
Speaker 1: Body Hobvey, Big Body Hobby. I've never I've never been
Speaker 1: so excited for a match since Jamus versus Gunther. Then
Speaker 1: we've got the Nathan Fraser Axiom third match of the series,
Speaker 1: the final match of the series, and the winner goes
Speaker 1: in to the ladder match, which is too bad. Maybe
Speaker 1: they'll go to a drug. They'll both get in. Why
Speaker 1: would you want one of them not in the ladder match?
Speaker 1: Do you think I want to see that big what's
Speaker 1: that big guy's name with the brow? Von Wagner? I
Speaker 1: like the guy, But do you think I want Von
Speaker 1: Wagner the ladder matches that of Axiom or Nathan Fraser.
Speaker 1: I guess he can catch blokes, But do you think
Speaker 1: Nathan Frasier is small enough where he could use the
Speaker 1: brow of von Wagner as a base. That's a horrible
Speaker 1: thing to say, and you called me a psychopath and
Speaker 1: a horrible person. You make that comment about his physical
Speaker 1: appearance terrible. I'm just what you call husks fat. While
Speaker 1: you're at it, that fat pig. We have Stax Lorenzo
Speaker 1: against Weslee and elbow Fire and J C. Jane are
Speaker 1: gonna have a singles match. That's the next tea tomorrow.
Speaker 1: You excited? I am. I'm really hoping lash Legend runs
Speaker 1: in on that match. You's been held their declaration of
Speaker 1: power event Monday morning, new championship being introduced and a
Speaker 1: new member of a lows Dingo Nabber and go Ber Nablaise.
Speaker 1: I say, I try to go slow for the slow listeners,
Speaker 1: and it no good deed goes unpunished. See this is
Speaker 1: when they say, well, why can't Luca get over soon?
Speaker 1: If somebody comes over the next generation, they're done with it.
Speaker 1: See this is a great example of it right here
Speaker 1: with Brian Albert is here not being able to say
Speaker 1: loss that was? That was a real good one right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, is anybody expecting anything out of me and
Speaker 1: my ad diction? Though, Claire, No one's expecting anything out
Speaker 1: of your diction. You should know that by now. New
Speaker 1: Japan formerly introduced the New Japan World at television championship.
Speaker 1: Did you see this thing? Takami Obari noted this would
Speaker 1: be a championship aimed for younger talent with an emphasis
Speaker 1: on speed. It's a high speed title, yes it is.
Speaker 1: Fifteen minute time limit will be held for each match.
Speaker 1: Each title mench will be posted on New Japan social
Speaker 1: media accounts. A tournament to crown the first champion will
Speaker 1: take place into the future. There's no a zumis there.
Speaker 1: You're telling me that they made a belt, They planned
Speaker 1: an announcement, they did the announcement, they introduced the belt,
Speaker 1: but they don't have a date for when the tournament's
Speaker 1: gonna start. It's got an orange scraps. It looks like
Speaker 1: a like a dinner tray. It looks like a plaque
Speaker 1: you would receive. I got plenty of those. I'll have
Speaker 1: to check it out. Did you see that thing? You
Speaker 1: didn't see it yet, you gotta see it during the break.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I couldn't see Philthy walking around with
Speaker 1: this thing. I just I couldn't. Here's a question what
Speaker 1: will be and what will be more anticipated the matches
Speaker 1: for the new Japan World Television Championship, which will air
Speaker 1: on the Internet and not television, or the next magic
Speaker 1: trick that I post for my super followers at Brian Alvarez,
Speaker 1: I vote the ladder. I agree back in a moment
Speaker 1: with more Observer Live back in the show. Brian Elba
Speaker 1: is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike Supper b B also
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer dot Com. You know, during that break, I
Speaker 1: went up on the Internet to take a look at
Speaker 1: that new Japan World Television title. I know where you went.
Speaker 1: You went to your front page and put up the
Speaker 1: story that Brian Rose has got up there about the
Speaker 1: declaration of power. Yeah, I see it around that's not
Speaker 1: where I went. I googled it and it came up.
Speaker 1: But you know my point, Mike, if you don't mind
Speaker 1: if I continue my point here. My point Mike is
Speaker 1: that I looked at that belt and I I heard
Speaker 1: what you said about that belt and the strap color
Speaker 1: and everything like that, and you know like this belt
Speaker 1: that Look at this belt that looks like an ornate ring?
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? You don't like that? I don't
Speaker 1: like that belt? Well, you know, here's not gonna do? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you got? Can we talk about this belt for
Speaker 1: a minute? Well, hold on. What I'm gonna do is
Speaker 1: I'm going to h they haven't had a good history
Speaker 1: here recently with title belts men do I'm gonna send
Speaker 1: us to Jared because I want this on screen, all right?
Speaker 1: You know you could talk, Come on, Mr Entertainment. I
Speaker 1: thought you could do two things at one time. There
Speaker 1: Brian now typing this in with a message to Jared
Speaker 1: to put this picture of this sorry looking belt up on.
Speaker 1: You know what this belt kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no no no no no no no,
Speaker 1: don't just wait. Here's the thing. I realized that those
Speaker 1: of you that are that are listening. I can't see
Speaker 1: the picture anything like that, but for those of you
Speaker 1: that are watching on video, I want you to see
Speaker 1: what this belt looks like before I explained the revelation
Speaker 1: that I came to when I saw this belt. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I move on here for a second. Oh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna move on. Can we at least talk a little
Speaker 1: bit about this belt after after the pictures up? Well,
Speaker 1: we'll do that, okay, alright, Titan c MLL, I sent
Speaker 1: you the picture. Jared's Fantastic Titan of CMLL joined Los
Speaker 1: in Gobernables. They hop on on Monday's show, aiding the
Speaker 1: group in a match against members of United Empire. He
Speaker 1: revealed himself under a mask asked to join l I J.
Speaker 1: The team discussed the matter and then held their fists
Speaker 1: in the air. Titan joined them, officially becoming a member
Speaker 1: of l I J. Master Watto Pin Taijishi more in
Speaker 1: a non title match, replacing Kushita Boom. After the match,
Speaker 1: both Aromo and Desperado came in to also make their
Speaker 1: claim for the next shot. A four way was visually
Speaker 1: agreed to setting up the next title match. Prior to
Speaker 1: the start of Monday show, Eugene Nagata announced that Oleg Bolton,
Speaker 1: an amateur wrestler from Kazakhstan. You know that that name
Speaker 1: Oleg Bolton reminded me of another story, but that's that's
Speaker 1: for another time. Is it about Michael Bolton? Or Bolton
Speaker 1: competed in the two Freestyle Wrestling World Championships, finishing fifth.
Speaker 1: So he's on his way and that feels like anochism
Speaker 1: straight out of the late eighties. Remember when he got
Speaker 1: the wrestler all the wrestlers from Russia in there. That's
Speaker 1: what that feels like. And also, Guerrillas of Destiny member
Speaker 1: Tanga Loa is going to be out for the rest
Speaker 1: of the year. The thirty nine year old is not
Speaker 1: wrestled since New Japan Capital Collision May fourteen. Did you
Speaker 1: been announced? June one, Lowe had been pulled from the
Speaker 1: Best of the Super Juniors finals after suffering a knee injury.
Speaker 1: He provided an update on his brother this Toma Tonga
Speaker 1: during an episode of Thomas Island released on Sunday. He's
Speaker 1: been injured, he said, res m c l just had
Speaker 1: surgery a couple of months ago. He'll be out the
Speaker 1: rest of the year, but he's making progress. He isn't
Speaker 1: able to run yet, but he's able to walk and
Speaker 1: do some stuff, and just the running part is the
Speaker 1: hardest part. Right now, he's doing well, he's moving forward,
Speaker 1: looking forward to having him come back. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's right underneath me or not, but there it is.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about the belt? Now? I'll tell
Speaker 1: him when to put the belt up. I'm in charge here.
Speaker 1: It's in It's in Q, folks, Yes it isn't Q.
Speaker 1: All right, you ready, everybody, take a look at this
Speaker 1: the new Japan World at Television Championship. Look at it.
Speaker 1: Look at that belt. Look at it, y'all see that
Speaker 1: on video video dot f W online dot com. Yeah,
Speaker 1: put me up in the corner there, uh Jared, so
Speaker 1: you can see me with that belt as I as
Speaker 1: I talk about that belt, forget about it. Remember the
Speaker 1: old Southwestern heavyweight title that the couch. Yeah that's good
Speaker 1: enough right there? Leave it, yeah, leave it right there. Okay, now,
Speaker 1: listen to everybody, you know, I do know. I have
Speaker 1: a Twitter where you can super follow me, and I
Speaker 1: got all sorts of stuff up there for super followers.
Speaker 1: I I do magic. I post videos every now and
Speaker 1: then I break news. Yeah, you know why? You know
Speaker 1: why I have that ability to have super followers, Mike,
Speaker 1: because I'm an influencer. That's what they call him nowadays.
Speaker 1: I'm an influencer. And what's funny isn't my influence It
Speaker 1: goes beyond social media. My influence dates back decades, decades
Speaker 1: to in fact, a promotion known as the Youth Wrestling
Speaker 1: Federation the y WF. Oh yes, do you know what
Speaker 1: I have in my possession, Mike? What do you have, Brian? No,
Speaker 1: it's not the tech Star Canada title. It is the
Speaker 1: y w F Intercontinental Championship, multiple titles there which, ah,
Speaker 1: they stole my design, you know what from ninety three.
Speaker 1: That's why Filthy threw up. It wasn't because he was drunk.
Speaker 1: It was because when you idiots were cleaning that up,
Speaker 1: he was sneaking that belt out there so they can
Speaker 1: get that remade in a two thousand twenty two form.
Speaker 1: Good job, Filthy, look at that. I am aghast the
Speaker 1: second I saw that. The second I saw that, I thought,
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. Now, I know. I filth
Speaker 1: he was in the ring there with the Bullet Club
Speaker 1: and j White as he was challenging Eddie Kingston there
Speaker 1: for street, But now I know why. Look at that
Speaker 1: the y W have heavyweight championship design that coming up
Speaker 1: next needs to be said again. They are not on
Speaker 1: a roll with creating these championship belts here, and frankly,
Speaker 1: I don't know why they need this belt. I know
Speaker 1: it's a gimmick. I don't know what's going on with
Speaker 1: t V sahe either, because if it benefits them in
Speaker 1: any way financially or benefits them with anything with TV, great.
Speaker 1: They seem to not be losing anything in this. They're
Speaker 1: putting up free matches for everybody. The title will always
Speaker 1: be released for free on TV, on streaming, wherever it is,
Speaker 1: so you know, okay, it's more free wrestling for people.
Speaker 1: That's cool. Is the belt going to be held by
Speaker 1: top stars? I guess we're gonna have to see that too,
Speaker 1: because if it is going to be a battery of
Speaker 1: no offense chase someone's title defenses, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's going to be the most exciting thing in the world.
Speaker 1: But I guess we're gonna have to see how this
Speaker 1: whole thing plays out, now, aren't we. I just wonder
Speaker 1: how long it takes before this belt somehow makes its
Speaker 1: way onto a W television, so we can just have
Speaker 1: another belt. Nick Gauges once again g c W World
Speaker 1: Champion after devining John Moxley Night one of g c
Speaker 1: W Fight Club in a career versus title match. Match
Speaker 1: featured the use of several light tubes, barbed wire, Gauge
Speaker 1: repeatedly carving Mox's forehead with a pizza slicer, finished at
Speaker 1: a W star Stokely Hathaway and w Morrissey getting involved
Speaker 1: with Morrissey choke slamming Moxley through a barbed wire glass
Speaker 1: window pane, Gauge went for a cover, Moxley kicked out.
Speaker 1: Gauge then scored the win after hitting three pile drivers
Speaker 1: and a choke breaker. After the match of Gauge praise
Speaker 1: Moxley putting him over, he said he will keep going
Speaker 1: and going and wouldn't have won the title without the fans,
Speaker 1: saying that he goes through glass and barbed wire for them,
Speaker 1: praise g c W and said any of the haters
Speaker 1: can come find him. Gauge's third run with the gold
Speaker 1: and his first since July of one, left out a
Speaker 1: big chunk there where he called a w that old
Speaker 1: P word company there, Well come on then put then
Speaker 1: put Moxley over huge because in look, credit to Moxley,
Speaker 1: and I don't blame Tony Khan for one second for
Speaker 1: not wanting John Moxley involved your big one of your
Speaker 1: biggest investments. You don't want him involved in anything else.
Speaker 1: You were being really nice when the whole thing started.
Speaker 1: Letting people work in other places with where you're at
Speaker 1: now those things need to come to an end. And
Speaker 1: obviously you have a willing member in John Moxley who
Speaker 1: wants to do things in the wrestling business and for
Speaker 1: your business where it makes sense. But John Moxley actually
Speaker 1: maybe putting his foot down what it sounded like and
Speaker 1: saying no, I really do need to do this and
Speaker 1: finish this storyline and do this for wrestling and four
Speaker 1: wrestling fans. Hopefully he didn't get too much pushback from
Speaker 1: Tony kN about that, because yes, anything can go wrong
Speaker 1: in the wrestling ring, but as we discussed on Friday,
Speaker 1: there was going to be nothing lost in this. And
Speaker 1: in fact, you actually have now another little you know
Speaker 1: writer because you had w Morrissey be the one that
Speaker 1: came out there and hit Moxley. And that's the second time,
Speaker 1: by the way, the second time m JF has utilized
Speaker 1: Nick Gauge in such a way where it has screwed
Speaker 1: over John Moxley. Does that matter in the storyline? Maybe not,
Speaker 1: but you know what you have, but if you want it, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know all the details, but I don't think
Speaker 1: there was ever a point where Tony kN told him
Speaker 1: he could not drop this title. I'm sure Tony khn
Speaker 1: didn't want to go in there and lose clean. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that's why W Morris cy and and uh wasn't
Speaker 1: a big fan of the pane of glass or totally
Speaker 1: where I don't think Tony cares. Are you kidding? Meet
Speaker 1: Tony Khan, guy grew up on on ec double. You know,
Speaker 1: he was probably like, hey, listen, if you're gonna lose,
Speaker 1: I need to go through three panes of glass and
Speaker 1: tax But here's the thing, And here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: don't think John Monx is gonna be doing a lot
Speaker 1: of indie dates, but I don't think it has anything
Speaker 1: to do with with Tony Khan because one of the
Speaker 1: things here he won this title September four one. Okay,
Speaker 1: and you know this was this was before he had
Speaker 1: gone into rehab, and it was shortly after his his
Speaker 1: daughter was born. And let me tell you something, his dad,
Speaker 1: things change quick. And I think that as a father,
Speaker 1: and listen, she was he was born in in the summer,
Speaker 1: I think of of one, so like, she's probably walking,
Speaker 1: she may be starting to talk, you know, not no
Speaker 1: longer just laying there doing nothing, which they do for
Speaker 1: a long time. So as a father, I think that
Speaker 1: he's probably like, man, what a life I got. I
Speaker 1: gotta go to work on Wednesday, and then I don't
Speaker 1: got anything else. If I don't want to, I can.
Speaker 1: I can hang out, play with my kid, my wife
Speaker 1: and make a ton of money. And so, you know,
Speaker 1: I think that every now and then there's gonna be
Speaker 1: something he really wants to do. There's an opportunity he's
Speaker 1: gonna take it. I'm sure he'd go for the g one.
Speaker 1: But I'm pretty sure this is all John Moxley's decision.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he wanted to put over Nick Gage for
Speaker 1: this title. There in the end, and he has resigned.
Speaker 1: They sent out a press release a couple of days ago.
Speaker 1: He'd actually resigned. What is October ten? He resigned about
Speaker 1: a month ago. This was not something he had been
Speaker 1: working for a little while without a contract, But it
Speaker 1: wasn't like he'd been working for you know, six months
Speaker 1: or anything like that. He he signed a while ago.
Speaker 1: They decided they were gonna put the press release out
Speaker 1: a few days ago for whatever reason. And uh, and
Speaker 1: he's there for five years, and he's gonna be wrestling.
Speaker 1: He's gonna uh do some agent ing work. He's already
Speaker 1: helping people put matches together. So he's just going to
Speaker 1: commit himself to A E W and wrestling. And good
Speaker 1: for him, dude, good for him. He did the barn
Speaker 1: storming thing. He won. Look, he's worked for the biggest
Speaker 1: company in the world. He won. He worked for r
Speaker 1: o H when there was an r o H. He
Speaker 1: did that. He won. He came up a little bit
Speaker 1: in the old school, trained a little bit by less
Speaker 1: that or all that. He won. He won, and he
Speaker 1: got to do what he wants to do. And now
Speaker 1: it can be quality over quantity. He did the barn
Speaker 1: storming thing, he did the a W thing, he did
Speaker 1: the go get a clean thing. Now he's doing the
Speaker 1: family man father thing. While being the number one star
Speaker 1: or at least one A, one B, one C inside
Speaker 1: of his own company. So congrats to him, and you know,
Speaker 1: good for him for being able to get there because
Speaker 1: it hasn't been easy. Pretty near says a W kind
Speaker 1: of spoiled the title match with that press release. Hey listen,
Speaker 1: maybe they did, but you know what if your options
Speaker 1: are we either ain't doing the match because I know
Speaker 1: what my champion losing, or we're gonna send a press
Speaker 1: release out a day before saying that he's finishing up
Speaker 1: all his obligations and you can do the match and lose.
Speaker 1: I'm taking that. So anyway, Moments over life the right.
Speaker 1: But back in the show, Bright Albert is here Wrestling
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Speaker 1: know what I want to do that match with filthy
Speaker 1: old Nick Gage was there, the guy that nearly killed
Speaker 1: me and not to kill his a gimmick, but he's
Speaker 1: the sweetest guy. Man. That guy's beat up and that's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons that the g c W signed
Speaker 1: him to a contract, the only contract they ever signed
Speaker 1: anybody too, and it was you know, we wanna we
Speaker 1: want to give this guy a contract so this can
Speaker 1: be what he does, and he can take care of
Speaker 1: himself and work matches here and there and not just
Speaker 1: be out, you know, killing himself and and doing whatever else,
Speaker 1: you know, different shows and everything like that. So you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, there are a lot of
Speaker 1: people that believed he might actually retire, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: He's going to continue on. But if you saw him
Speaker 1: and portions during that match, I mean, Moxley was working
Speaker 1: with himself. I mean, e Gauge was he can move
Speaker 1: slow and Leo Rush on yesterday actually won a scramble
Speaker 1: that Gauge. Gauge called out anybody from the locker rooms
Speaker 1: that step up who wants the next shot. A bunch
Speaker 1: of people poured out. They had a scramble match. What
Speaker 1: looks like Leo Rush is going to be somebody who
Speaker 1: gets the title shot against Nick Gauge, and that is
Speaker 1: an interesting contrast in styles there. It's certainly a clash.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if anybody gets added to that match.
Speaker 1: But Neck Gauge is your g c W champion. Nick
Speaker 1: Gauge versus Leo Rush Nick f Engauge against Leo Rush, Yes,
Speaker 1: the man of the Hour. Well two thousand twenty two,
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