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Speaker 1: take a look at the free agents who have agreed
Speaker 1: to new deals in Cincinnati, some guys they are still
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Speaker 1: get to football, as Dave Lapham joins me to discuss
Speaker 1: free agency and much more. All right, lab, let's dive
Speaker 1: right into free agency. So far from the Bengals, and
Speaker 1: who knows, as we're doing this recording, they might sign
Speaker 1: another guy or two. I'll keep an eye on that
Speaker 1: during the recording. But let's start with the biggest free
Speaker 1: agent acquisition thus far, and that is defensive end Trey
Speaker 1: Hendrickson from the Saints. Four years, sixty million dollars. Basically,
Speaker 1: it's kind of a swap. They lost Carl Lawson, their
Speaker 1: best pass rusher. They're bringing in a guy who had
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half sacks last year to tie for
Speaker 1: second best in the NFL. Yeah. I thought that free
Speaker 1: agency had some depth to it Dan with the edge rushers,
Speaker 1: and it has some solid depth of defensive tackle and
Speaker 1: the Bengals got one of each. You know, Ogan Joey,
Speaker 1: we know a lot about. He's raised some heck here
Speaker 1: against the Cincinnati Bengals, and like you said, Hendrickson had
Speaker 1: a breakout year thirteen and a half sacks. The Lawson
Speaker 1: Henderson trade off to me is an interesting one. I
Speaker 1: think they're both rated maybe in the top three edge
Speaker 1: guys by by most uh most people that were rating
Speaker 1: edge people in the free agency. They have different uh
Speaker 1: they're a little bit different though. I think I think Hendrickson,
Speaker 1: if I had to use the term football player instincts,
Speaker 1: you know, an instinctive football player. I give the edge
Speaker 1: to Hendrickson because he plays the run a little bit better,
Speaker 1: obviously a lot better in my opinion than Carl does.
Speaker 1: And then Carl was improving. But if you're talking quick twitch,
Speaker 1: rare explosion, unbelievable first step, get off all the He's
Speaker 1: got that skill that that part of the skill set
Speaker 1: Lawson has is very very unique, you know, and you
Speaker 1: look at Carl Losson put his numbers up basically a
Speaker 1: one man band, with Hubbard being hurt a good part
Speaker 1: of it. Not, you know, not any compliment, guys. You
Speaker 1: know people are gonna argue Hendrickson thirteen and a half sacks,
Speaker 1: but man, you get you know, you get Cam Jordan,
Speaker 1: you know, working with him, you get other other guys inside.
Speaker 1: With the offense the Saints have, they're playing with the
Speaker 1: lead all the time, and rush from the quarterback becomes
Speaker 1: much easier when you know you're going to rush the
Speaker 1: passer because they have to throw the football and try
Speaker 1: to catch up. Team start abandoned in their running game.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can come up with all kinds of
Speaker 1: theories and arguments and reasons. Bottom line, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: having you know, played in the trenches, thirteen half sacks
Speaker 1: is thirteen a half sacks. He still went out and
Speaker 1: got him, you know, he still did it. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that it wasn't maybe an easier path. I
Speaker 1: mean Carl had more fewer sacks, but more hits, but
Speaker 1: a lot more snaps. Well, you know, Hendrickson has a
Speaker 1: good rush and the quarterback has nowhere else to go
Speaker 1: because other guys are getting a good rush. Carl Lawston
Speaker 1: has a good rush. Quarterback can slidestep and move and
Speaker 1: change the pocket because it's a one man band on
Speaker 1: the rush. So you know, there's there's something to it
Speaker 1: all the time when you look at a guy's numbers.
Speaker 1: That's why football, I think is the is the most
Speaker 1: interesting sport because there's the moving parts on both sides
Speaker 1: of the football, and you know one guy's numbers, you
Speaker 1: can't just extrapolate it. It's not like a vacuum extrapolated
Speaker 1: and plugged in here and he's going to have those
Speaker 1: same numbers. Just doesn't work that way. You know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of variables and a lot of components around
Speaker 1: everybody's numbers and everybody's efforts and all that goes into it.
Speaker 1: But bottom line is when I watch him play, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see the h men. Hubbard and Henderson.
Speaker 1: They both have to. I mean, they're both gonna bring
Speaker 1: it every snap. They're both gonna be you know, a
Speaker 1: full effort going to empty the effort bucket up. I'm
Speaker 1: very interested in seeing the ah men on the edges.
Speaker 1: I think covered gonna be a good little, good little tandem.
Speaker 1: We will not use preparation age when talking about those
Speaker 1: two guys coming off the edge as a term that is,
Speaker 1: we're not going to use that. Here's here's what I
Speaker 1: like about it. A couple of things. Number One, you
Speaker 1: get an extra year. So Carl's deal with the Jets
Speaker 1: was three years. The Bengals deal with Hendrickson was four years,
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars a year in each case, so I
Speaker 1: like the extra year. Secondly would be the durability. Hendrickson
Speaker 1: did have one season where he only played five games.
Speaker 1: But Karl, of course, has a couple of significant knee
Speaker 1: injuries in his past. You know, there were times that
Speaker 1: he had to miss several games here, several games there
Speaker 1: for pulled muscles and things like that. I think you're
Speaker 1: getting a slightly more durable guy, at least based on
Speaker 1: his history. I agree with that. Dan and a bigger guy,
Speaker 1: you know, overall frame, you know, two hundred and seventy pounds,
Speaker 1: that carries it a lot more easily than Carl Lawson,
Speaker 1: who's a beefed up whatever he is, and he's not
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy pounds. And you know, in my
Speaker 1: mind with Carl, the only negative I guess from a
Speaker 1: physical standpoint is lack of length, and Henderson has got
Speaker 1: more length, you know that way, And again I think
Speaker 1: I think overall foot ball player in terms of football
Speaker 1: player instincts, I give, I definitely give the edge to Hendrickson. Um,
Speaker 1: and I do like, like you said, I do like
Speaker 1: the fact that you have the extra year. They're both
Speaker 1: the standing player. It's going to be very interesting to see,
Speaker 1: you know, whose ascension continues. I do think both have
Speaker 1: upside potential. The gets will probably say I think Carl
Speaker 1: Loston more upside potential because of that the rare explosiveness,
Speaker 1: that quick twitch that he has. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: find many big guys with the quick twitch to that
Speaker 1: that that dude has. Kray Hendrickson ran a four six
Speaker 1: five forty you know, out of college, so he's a
Speaker 1: guy that might not have the quickness and explosion is
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson, but he is also a tremendous all around athlete,
Speaker 1: effort guy too, and I'm not standing to Carl Lawson.
Speaker 1: Isn't or wasn't um Carl Lawson. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: gives you gives good effort. But we know what's Sam
Speaker 1: Hubbard's like, I mean Sam Hubbards. You know it's it's
Speaker 1: like if she's he's losing an arm, he's still coming,
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what Henderson brings to the table
Speaker 1: it as well. I think, all right, let's talk about
Speaker 1: the two cornerbacks that have signed so far, beginning with
Speaker 1: and I'm going to I work very hard on this name,
Speaker 1: on the pronunciation. I think I've got it right. Shitubey
Speaker 1: a Woogie shit Obey A Wougier, second round draft picked
Speaker 1: by the Cowboys back in twenty seventeen. He'll be twenty
Speaker 1: seven years old in June. He gets a three year
Speaker 1: roughly twenty one million dollar contracts, so that's about seven
Speaker 1: million dollars a year. Will Jackson signed with Washington for
Speaker 1: twice that fourteen million dollars a year. Will Jackson is
Speaker 1: not twice as good as Shitubey A. Wougier. In fact,
Speaker 1: based on conversations that I've had with people from Dallas,
Speaker 1: a description of shit Obey a Wougier sounds exactly like
Speaker 1: Will Jackson to me. Yeah, I mean, I think there's
Speaker 1: a there's a lot of a lot of comparisons. To me,
Speaker 1: he looks like he's a, you know, a reliable guy
Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be kind of guy can make
Speaker 1: playce Now, last year he you know, he misstate games.
Speaker 1: He had the hamstring injury and COVID issues, but his
Speaker 1: overall production the first four years in the league. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with you. I think I don't
Speaker 1: think they're losing much and they're not paying anywhere near
Speaker 1: as much, so I don't have a real big problem
Speaker 1: with that signing. And he'll start, you know. To me,
Speaker 1: the Bengals went out in free agency and they got
Speaker 1: a starting edge rusher at a starting corner, they got
Speaker 1: a starting stock corner, and they got a starting defensive
Speaker 1: tackle a three technique. I mean, they've addressed a lot
Speaker 1: of defensive needs. And again and I feel like in
Speaker 1: free agency there was more depth on the defensive side
Speaker 1: of the football. I think the offensive line depth in
Speaker 1: free agency was not his deep. I think there were
Speaker 1: some good players and they got paid the old line
Speaker 1: the guys that, uh, we're out there broke the bank. Um.
Speaker 1: But I think the offensive line in the draft is
Speaker 1: a lot deeper than, uh than the defensive front and
Speaker 1: the secondary draft. So I think the Bengals went and said,
Speaker 1: all right, well, free agency edge, defensive tack or corner,
Speaker 1: let's see what we get there, and then we'll address
Speaker 1: and still try to get that old lineman and Riley
Speaker 1: reive and hopefully he's signing as we speak. Hopefully uh
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's taking him to breakfast, lunch and dinner and
Speaker 1: told him how important is that he comes here to
Speaker 1: be a Cincinnati Bengal um. And and if they if
Speaker 1: they get that done, then then a little bit of
Speaker 1: the pressure is off, I think in terms of the draft,
Speaker 1: and I know people are gonna be like, look, you
Speaker 1: know you're gonna play it. You're saying, all right, well
Speaker 1: the draft, you're gonna have two rookies starting in your
Speaker 1: offensive line. No, that's not That's not what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying I think the draft is uh is
Speaker 1: deeper than what they have out there in free agency.
Speaker 1: And I think it was like in this free agency
Speaker 1: that was supposed to be terrible year to be a
Speaker 1: free agent because fifteen million dollars less than a cap
Speaker 1: and a lot of teams been capped jail in camp bid.
Speaker 1: Trent Williams got the highest offensive tackle contract in the
Speaker 1: history of the National Football League. Doon, he got eighty million,
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty plus. Don't get eighty million plus.
Speaker 1: So the peak guys, the prime guys, we're gonna get paid.
Speaker 1: And the Chiefs just the Chiefs only need his offensive line.
Speaker 1: They addressed it with a bell cop. You know, the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers they've got Trent Williams in a trade.
Speaker 1: They like Trent Williams. They you know, they haven't need there.
Speaker 1: They're not. They didn't do anything else. Neither of those
Speaker 1: teams did anything else. What the Bengals decided to do
Speaker 1: is not a that kind of money for that type
Speaker 1: of the player. Instead, you know, try to try to
Speaker 1: address multiple needs the Bengals had. Let's face, the Bengals
Speaker 1: have many more needs than the Kansas City Chiefs in
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers. That's just the the truth,
Speaker 1: that's just the nature of the beach. Let's turn to
Speaker 1: the next defensive back that they signed, slot corner Mike Hilton.
Speaker 1: We know all about him from seeing the Bengals face
Speaker 1: the Steelers over the past several years. He's twenty seven
Speaker 1: years old. He gets a four year, twenty four million
Speaker 1: dollars deal, so that projects to six million per So
Speaker 1: basically a Wugier gets seven million a year, Hilton gets
Speaker 1: six million a year. Added up thirteen million dollars. That's
Speaker 1: still less than Will Jackson. You got two for you
Speaker 1: got two for one, you know, in terms of the
Speaker 1: dollars there, and for multiple years. And they're both two
Speaker 1: years younger than Will. Right, Hilton's twenty, Wugier is twenty
Speaker 1: five and Hilton's twenty seven. Right, No, and Wougier turns
Speaker 1: twenty seven in June, so he'll be twenty seven in
Speaker 1: time for next season, and Hilton is twenty seven. Will
Speaker 1: will be twenty nine next year. So Hilton seven interceptions,
Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks, and you know, forty one
Speaker 1: pressures off the edge. So I mean, now you have
Speaker 1: an element that caused the Bengals and other team's problems.
Speaker 1: When Hilton comes, he brings it. I mean he's matched
Speaker 1: up on running backs and people like that, and he
Speaker 1: that's a mismatch in Hilton's favor in the Steelers opinion
Speaker 1: and probably uh Luna Ruma's opinion as well. So it's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how they utilized him.
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's very interesting though, Dan. You know
Speaker 1: the thing is, you almost have two free agent classes,
Speaker 1: honestly because DJ Reader made a guest appearance, Trey Waynes
Speaker 1: didn't make any appearance. So you've got basically this year,
Speaker 1: you've got Trey Waynes, who they got paid a ton
Speaker 1: of money to play corner, and last year's free agency market,
Speaker 1: I mean they have they have basically a new secondary,
Speaker 1: three three new starters out there, you know in the
Speaker 1: secondary and Ogan Job as a three technique, hendricksoners and
Speaker 1: defensive end. They have addressed that defensive football team in
Speaker 1: the last two free agency classes where they felt like
Speaker 1: there's a deeper pool of defensive players to look at
Speaker 1: to get better than offensive lineman. Well, let's turn to
Speaker 1: Larry Ogan Job because that's another guy we've seen a
Speaker 1: lot of over the past several years with the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: Also a member of the two thousand and seventeen draft class.
Speaker 1: So that was the case with Hendrickson and a Wouger.
Speaker 1: Hilton was part of the two thousand and sixteen draft class.
Speaker 1: But in any case, Larry Ogan Job turns twenty seven
Speaker 1: in June five and a half sacks, is an interior
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. In two eighteen and two thousand nineteen story
Speaker 1: on him is that, apparently he's a little bit inconsistent,
Speaker 1: but he always played well against the Bengals. He did.
Speaker 1: I mean in eight games he had a one and
Speaker 1: a half sacks, six tackless, lost four quarterback hits. He
Speaker 1: was thorn in their side, and they moved to him
Speaker 1: Cleveland ended up, you know, moving him from a three
Speaker 1: technique to a nose tackle. I thought that that they
Speaker 1: did people a favor. I thought he was better as
Speaker 1: a as a three technique and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: outside shoulders guard pass rush guy, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where the Bengals, you know, are looking to utilize him.
Speaker 1: They felt like, honestly, they were second second few as
Speaker 1: quarterback sacks in the National Football League. Obviously that's a
Speaker 1: huge weakness. Where the Bengals had problems last year was
Speaker 1: in the trenches offensive and defensive line. So they've addressed
Speaker 1: the defensive line in free agency, and you know, everybody
Speaker 1: out there is gonna go nuts they don't get resigned
Speaker 1: that they didn't do anything with the offensive line, but
Speaker 1: they will address it in the draft. And no, still
Speaker 1: I addressed U for depth defensive depth in the draft.
Speaker 1: But I think in the early rounds it's gonna be
Speaker 1: offensive oriented. There's no two ways about it, no question
Speaker 1: about it. But I think Ogan joby is I think
Speaker 1: it's a solid signing. You know, I I think I
Speaker 1: think maybe Geno Atkins games the numbered. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can't spend forty million dollars the defensive tackle with, you know,
Speaker 1: DJ Reader, Ogan Joebi, Gino Atkins, Daniels. Somebody's got to go,
Speaker 1: and obviously I think Gino might be the guy to go,
Speaker 1: unless he takes an enormous haircut. All right, now, let's
Speaker 1: turn to some guys that the Bengals are reportedly talking to,
Speaker 1: including a player that you've mentioned a few times already today.
Speaker 1: Riley Reef, veteran offensive lineman, former first round draft pick
Speaker 1: by the Lions, spent five years in Detroit and the
Speaker 1: last four in Minnesota. Thirty two years old. Pro Football
Speaker 1: Focus calls him one of the most consistent offensive tackles
Speaker 1: in the league. So this obviously would be a significant
Speaker 1: addition in the attempt to improve the offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of things I like about him. Obviously,
Speaker 1: he's on the back nine of his career. He's played
Speaker 1: a few years. They do need that veteran presence, you know,
Speaker 1: there's always a need for a veteran presence in the
Speaker 1: offensive line, and he would divide that and for years
Speaker 1: linebackers coming out of Penn State it was Penn State.
Speaker 1: You he comes off of Iowa. In my mind, that's
Speaker 1: full lined. You. Kirk Ferns was an offensive line coach
Speaker 1: in the NFL at the Cleveland Browns and Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 1: He knows his offensive lineman. He recruits offensive lineman out
Speaker 1: of high school with great talent to develop at Iowa.
Speaker 1: They come out of Iola, I think, ready to play.
Speaker 1: You know, suff is another example of an Iowa guy
Speaker 1: that was out there in free agency and he got
Speaker 1: tagged by the Redskins. So there's there's we can go
Speaker 1: over a litanya guys that have had success from from
Speaker 1: Iowa in terms of the offensive line. Like you said, Dan,
Speaker 1: it was the twenty third pick in the draft in
Speaker 1: the first round coming out of college, so over thousand
Speaker 1: snaps last year, only had one penalty, committed one penalty
Speaker 1: and gave up one sack. I think he's very intelligent.
Speaker 1: I think he's extremely durable. I mean he's dependable, he
Speaker 1: shows up. He's accountable, reliability, depending ability because the physical
Speaker 1: aspect of it with the mental intelligence. And he's versatile.
Speaker 1: It's the position versatility. He can play left hackley to
Speaker 1: play right tackle. So I think he would be a
Speaker 1: great signing. Um. He's kind of kind of what you're
Speaker 1: looking for. And he was a stalary casualty the Viking
Speaker 1: saved between eleven and twelve million bucks. I think it
Speaker 1: was by letting him go. And I think his people
Speaker 1: probably feel like after Trent Williams, he might be the guy.
Speaker 1: So but it hasn't worked out that way, I guess
Speaker 1: maybe necessarily. And the Bengals have him in town and
Speaker 1: they're they're winding and dining him and trying to get
Speaker 1: a deal done. It'd be great if they could get
Speaker 1: a deal done with him, and then I think there'd
Speaker 1: be a transposition of Riley Reeve comes and at that
Speaker 1: point Propy's heart would probably go, you can't It wouldn't
Speaker 1: be keeping them, both of them out there in the
Speaker 1: early stages of free agency when we were talking about possibilities. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you know Trent Williams is at the top of the
Speaker 1: totem pole. He's getting twenty three millions dollars a year
Speaker 1: from the forty nine Ers. That wasn't going to happen.
Speaker 1: Taylor Moden's name came up, he got tagged by the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Darryl Williams name came up. He got a three year
Speaker 1: extension with his team, the Buffalo Bills, So that really
Speaker 1: thinned the available tackle market out pretty quickly. We mentioned
Speaker 1: Matt Feiler, who signed with the Chargers for three years
Speaker 1: twenty one million bucks. From what's still left out there
Speaker 1: as we speak, Riley Reif, Mitchell Schwartz, who got cut
Speaker 1: by the Chiefs, Russell o'coon, Alejandro Villa Nueva. What appeals
Speaker 1: to you most from that pack? Is it? Riley Reef? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think they're I think they've got a good, solid,
Speaker 1: solid guy there. I don't think the Minnesota Vikings wouldn't necessarily,
Speaker 1: you know, let him go if it wasn't just our capissues.
Speaker 1: They're in a little bit of cap jail and had
Speaker 1: to make a I had to make a decision, had
Speaker 1: to make a move. UH. I like him a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a I think he's a
Speaker 1: really good player. I do think that that the uh,
Speaker 1: the offensive line gaps got thinned out very quickly. I
Speaker 1: didn't think it was that deep as we talked about
Speaker 1: UH in free agency with the offensive line, and it
Speaker 1: got pluck. If you have a good one, normally you
Speaker 1: don't let them, you know, out there unless you have
Speaker 1: situations with cap problems and and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: And the guys on the back nine, because everybody, a
Speaker 1: lot of the guys were talking about they have some
Speaker 1: wear and tear on them. There's no question. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Trent Williams, I think will probably be upper
Speaker 1: cruss guy for a couple more years, maybe maybe three.
Speaker 1: Um and and in the forty nine ers are like,
Speaker 1: look we have this is our kneed Perry and creates.
Speaker 1: This is what we're going to spend on. So he
Speaker 1: got the he got the enormous box. The one thing
Speaker 1: that we talked about this a lot is okay, do
Speaker 1: you go get the weapons or do you get linemen. Well,
Speaker 1: in this down market, the two guys that get paid
Speaker 1: were a left tackle and a guard. They hit the
Speaker 1: jack pot because there weren't many of them and the
Speaker 1: teams that had a need for them were willing to
Speaker 1: pay significant dollars. I mean, they're paid. Their contracts didn't
Speaker 1: diminish like people thought they might. It might be a
Speaker 1: you know, a bad years. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: bad year for some quite a few free agents, but
Speaker 1: the cream of the crop free agents. Not a bad
Speaker 1: year for and who are the two highest paid offensive linemen?
Speaker 1: Who else get money? Edge rush guys, cornerbacks, it's a
Speaker 1: passing lead going to protect them, that to be able
Speaker 1: to rush them and cover them. And yet the wide
Speaker 1: receivers buy and large, are not getting paid. And that
Speaker 1: leads us to Kenny gala Day, who has a one
Speaker 1: year offer on the table from Cincinnati, reportedly the number
Speaker 1: one free agent wide receiver in this class according to
Speaker 1: most of the experts. Head back to back one thousand
Speaker 1: yards seasons for Detroit two eighteen and twenty nineteen before
Speaker 1: getting hurt last year. Career yards per catch average of
Speaker 1: nearly seventeen yards a catch. He wants to get paid
Speaker 1: like the top receivers in the NFL. You know, of course,
Speaker 1: to twenty million dollars a year. That's not happening for
Speaker 1: any of these guys with the cap going down. So
Speaker 1: the Bengals have offered him a one year deal, basically saying, hey,
Speaker 1: come here, put up big numbers with Joe Burrow throwing
Speaker 1: you the ball, and then next year you can cash
Speaker 1: in either here or somewhere else when the cap goes
Speaker 1: back up. The Giants are bringing him in for a visit.
Speaker 1: So maybe that's the way it turns out, but the
Speaker 1: Bengals have at least put their chips on the table.
Speaker 1: With the best free agent wide receiver out there, I
Speaker 1: think that it's a bad year to be a free
Speaker 1: agent wide receiver from a market standpoint. Kenny Galladay is
Speaker 1: a great player, There's no question about it. In teams
Speaker 1: around the league are saying, Okay, why don't you just
Speaker 1: do a one year better on yourself deal and then
Speaker 1: put up some great numbers and next year it will
Speaker 1: be a better year to be a free agent. There
Speaker 1: maybe fewer free agents at wide receiver out there on
Speaker 1: the market, the market could be more rich. It was
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars decrease this year because of coronavirus, so
Speaker 1: there's a lot of extenuating circumstances. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: supply and demand uh scenario. There's more supply, so the
Speaker 1: demand goes down. Everybody's waiting for the wide receivers. They're
Speaker 1: all they're all looking for pay days. Everybody can't get
Speaker 1: a payday, so teams are saying, when are you going
Speaker 1: to get more reasonable? Who's going to get more reasonable?
Speaker 1: The Bengals are part of that, part of that mix.
Speaker 1: We'll see if if they can land a guy like
Speaker 1: Dolla Day or if he ends up going to the
Speaker 1: big apples. All right, we have discussed the guys that
Speaker 1: the Bengals have signed, We've discussed a couple of guys
Speaker 1: that they are still talking to, and they're obviously others
Speaker 1: that they are talking to that have not become public.
Speaker 1: But it's time to turn to a listener. We've got
Speaker 1: a bunch of asked Lap questions that were submitted via Twitter,
Speaker 1: and let's start with Ryan. Here's Ryan's question, Lap, why
Speaker 1: have the Bengals ignored ignored their most glaring need of
Speaker 1: offensive line so far? Shouldn't Burrow be the top priority
Speaker 1: and we'd spending on the top lineman available. Related question
Speaker 1: from Daniel is there a plan to protect the franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: So this is obviously the number one topic I think
Speaker 1: for most Bengals fans. Why haven't they made a step
Speaker 1: yet to fix the offensive line? Yeah? I think that
Speaker 1: they decided that the amount of spend all your cap
Speaker 1: on one guy or you know, maybe have room for
Speaker 1: maybe one more player, they feel like addressing the defense
Speaker 1: with three potential starters or more, and that they can
Speaker 1: if they do end up getting a deal done with
Speaker 1: Riley Reef. And I do think that there's pressure on
Speaker 1: them to get a deal done with Riley Reef. If
Speaker 1: they get that deal done, I think it eases the
Speaker 1: pressure tremendously. But you know, the old Deald philosophy of uh,
Speaker 1: do you want just one stellar offensive lineman and you
Speaker 1: can't really afford to have, you know, four others? Or
Speaker 1: would you rather have five good ones across the board? Uh?
Speaker 1: You know that That's that's part of I guess they're
Speaker 1: the philosophy. Bottom line is it's going to have to
Speaker 1: be addressed. Um and if they didn't get it done
Speaker 1: in free agency, if they don't get Riley Reef or
Speaker 1: they don't get any offensive lineman sign in free agency
Speaker 1: where it is not incredibly deep. There was there was
Speaker 1: some talent um, but again it takes two to tango.
Speaker 1: You know, there's there's multiple reasons why white guys signed
Speaker 1: with teams, and money is up is number one. But
Speaker 1: then if if you're going to get the money from
Speaker 1: somebody another suitor, that is the playoff team and you're not.
Speaker 1: I think the chat of Joe Burrow is a significant one.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's a factor. And if I'm
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or free agent offensive lineman, I'm looking
Speaker 1: to see who my quarterback might be. So I think
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's definite plus. But you know, teams that that
Speaker 1: that got the big value free agents forty nine ers
Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs Enough said similar question from JT. Why
Speaker 1: do the Bengals refuse to value guards the way the
Speaker 1: rest of the successful teams do. Why not build a
Speaker 1: superior line instead of going the cheap route. Well, it's
Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see what they what they
Speaker 1: do end up with at at the guard position. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody was so sold and me and clude,
Speaker 1: I mean, Duney's a great player, There's no question about it.
Speaker 1: Trent Williams is a great player. Penney Stool is a
Speaker 1: great player. And you start hearing about these guys and
Speaker 1: if you don't get that guy, there's bitter disappointment. And
Speaker 1: there's only one team that's going to get the guy.
Speaker 1: Um so uh am I saying that that, I that
Speaker 1: I as a former alignement, do I want the Bengals
Speaker 1: offensive line to be improved upon and to to get
Speaker 1: better with Frank Pollack. Give him some tools, gives him
Speaker 1: some clay that he can mold into a solid offensive line.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, And I've said before our best offensive line
Speaker 1: enfranchise history was in the eighties. Do we had good
Speaker 1: lines in that decade? Who were the kingpins? The Mexican Connection?
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl left tackle Perennial, Anthony Munos, Pro Bowl guard
Speaker 1: Max Montoya. Yeah. I mean there's there's no question that
Speaker 1: that the best teams in Bengals history had the best
Speaker 1: offensive lines in Bengals history operating with them with those
Speaker 1: two guys, So it's it goes hand in hand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind the Bengals offensive line
Speaker 1: has to improve and and maybe the first step is
Speaker 1: underway as we're as we're speaking here. If they can
Speaker 1: get something done with Riley Reef and then and then
Speaker 1: go and address things in the draft. I want to
Speaker 1: go back to the beginning of JT's question, why do
Speaker 1: the Bengals refuse to value guards the way the rest
Speaker 1: of the successful teams do. The Patriots have been pretty successful.
Speaker 1: They had Joe Tooney, they elected not to resign him
Speaker 1: for those kinds of numbers. I think that the Bengals
Speaker 1: are actually in the norm where where valuing guards is concerned.
Speaker 1: I think their feeling is and this has been proven
Speaker 1: out over history. You've got to spend on tackles and
Speaker 1: you draft and develop guards, and I think that that's
Speaker 1: probably the norm. Now, there are some exceptions. I think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs showed recently they cut their tackles and they spent,
Speaker 1: you know, big on a guard. The Saints have historically
Speaker 1: spent big on guards. But I think by and large,
Speaker 1: the Bengals are probably in the norm, at least in
Speaker 1: terms of how they budget for their offensive line in thinking,
Speaker 1: we've got to pay tackles at the top of the
Speaker 1: pay scale, but if you do that with guards overall,
Speaker 1: it's going to hurt your team. Yeah. Bottom line is
Speaker 1: when push came to shove and the New England Patriots said, Okay,
Speaker 1: well we've got money spent at X Y Z position
Speaker 1: and one of them includes a guard. The guard's always
Speaker 1: going to lose. That position is always going to be
Speaker 1: the first one to go, no matter how great the
Speaker 1: guy is. And it is puzzling that the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs who are exposed and abused on the edge in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with their two tackles injured, and they
Speaker 1: got rid of both of them and they were injured
Speaker 1: in and then they'd let them go for cap dollars
Speaker 1: and everything else. It is interesting for them to go
Speaker 1: the route that they've gone. I guess it's going to
Speaker 1: be to see how that how that you know, the
Speaker 1: final solution of that whole thing. You know, Pittsburgh with
Speaker 1: the Castro has spent some money at guard. Um, you
Speaker 1: know Cleveland has spent some money at guard. These are
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber ligneman though, you know and and uh
Speaker 1: and once you develop you develop a guy, he becomes
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber guy like tun tuney is. You know,
Speaker 1: they're gonna get paid. But then when you have cap problems,
Speaker 1: they're going to be the first ones to go. So
Speaker 1: it is it's a it's an interesting diconomy that goes
Speaker 1: on at that position. There's no doubt about it. Question
Speaker 1: from Steve, Oh, could Bobby Heart be a decent guard?
Speaker 1: I believe that if you can play tackle, most probably
Speaker 1: you can play guard. But the one thing that Bobby
Speaker 1: has had difficulty with is bull rush. And at guard
Speaker 1: you're gonna get your butt bull rushed. So you know,
Speaker 1: if if you can't stink your hips and handle the
Speaker 1: bull rush out on the edge, gonna be harder to
Speaker 1: sink your hips and handle a bullrush inside. Um, So
Speaker 1: that that would be I guess my only concern there
Speaker 1: does he have enough ballast and um, you know, lower
Speaker 1: body strength and all those kind of things to uh
Speaker 1: to to you know, to transition to the guard position.
Speaker 1: It is interesting I've seen in my mind, having played
Speaker 1: all five of the positions, I felt like, boy, if
Speaker 1: you can play tack, you play you could play guard.
Speaker 1: But there's you know, Willie Anderson. I remember talking to Willie.
Speaker 1: Will He's like, man, I don't like I don't like guard.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like there's the traffic in there is
Speaker 1: it's so much faster it is. It is almost like
Speaker 1: rush hour. You know, you're you're in rush hour, and
Speaker 1: it's rush hour on the interstate because it's not only traffic,
Speaker 1: it's fast traffic. There's stuff twisting and turning and spinning
Speaker 1: going crazy inside, and it's it's a quicker reaction time.
Speaker 1: Some guys don't like the environment inside that if they've
Speaker 1: if they've been out in the edge their whole career.
Speaker 1: So there's you know, it's it's never a given, but
Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see how Bobby would transition
Speaker 1: to a guard if the Bengals wind up signing Riley
Speaker 1: Reef or another of the tackles that's still out there,
Speaker 1: and Piney Sewell is available with a fifth pick in
Speaker 1: the draft and they take him. Who plays where? That's
Speaker 1: a good problem to have your five best lineman hit
Speaker 1: the field, you know. So I means as of right now,
Speaker 1: without the draft, if they can get Riley Reef, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously you'd still have Jonah Williams out there at left
Speaker 1: tackle and then Riley Reef at the right tackle, and
Speaker 1: then you'd have, in my mind a guide not to
Speaker 1: give up on Identergy as a swing tackle. I think
Speaker 1: Identergy is a good football player, and I think he
Speaker 1: showed promise, and I think I think he'll develop even
Speaker 1: further with Frank Pollock. I think that Frank's going to
Speaker 1: teach him some techniques. I think that would be very
Speaker 1: useful in his development. So it's going to be interesting
Speaker 1: to see who ends up shift thing where. You know,
Speaker 1: I've said a couple of times now in my mind,
Speaker 1: I think Jonah Williams might be a good center. Now
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna do that with Trey Hopkins
Speaker 1: the level level that he plays the center position. But
Speaker 1: he's coming back from the ACCL. But he'll be back
Speaker 1: and I think he'll be as good as he's ever been.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the very start of the season though.
Speaker 1: So the thing you want is seven or eight starters
Speaker 1: is what you want, and you want versatility. You want
Speaker 1: You got your your starting five, but you want at
Speaker 1: least another couple of guys can play multiple positions. And also,
Speaker 1: um you want at least two of your offensive starting
Speaker 1: offensive lineman to be able to play multiple positions. You
Speaker 1: don't want to have to make two or three moves
Speaker 1: because of one injury. So that that that would be
Speaker 1: the ideal scenario for any NFL team. So if they
Speaker 1: signed Riley Reef, and draft an a Suo or will
Speaker 1: even say Rashaan Slater. So you've got Jonah Williams, Riley
Speaker 1: Reef and Pennays Sewel. Which guy would be most likely
Speaker 1: to move to guard? Maybe if it's only in the
Speaker 1: short term, maybe Pennay Seouel. That's what they did with
Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth. I mean Worth you worked at guard to
Speaker 1: acclimate himself to the National Football League. Because Dan as
Speaker 1: great as as great as Seoul is from a physical standpoint,
Speaker 1: looking at him, it's like if you put requirements and
Speaker 1: specifications into a computer, Penney Sewel would come spitting out
Speaker 1: of there. But he didn't play last year. He sat
Speaker 1: out last year because of coronavirus. So he's got a
Speaker 1: small sample size and it's not against the SEC. If
Speaker 1: he was handling ten to twelve rushers that the SEC
Speaker 1: provides on an annual basis, I'd feel better. But the
Speaker 1: PAC twelve, I mean, I'm not saying that he can't
Speaker 1: do it, but he hasn't shown that he can do it,
Speaker 1: So to me, there's no there's no total guarantee, no
Speaker 1: total given there. So it'd be up to Frank to
Speaker 1: decide that, obviously, But it might be easier for Penasool
Speaker 1: to transition inside working his way inside outside, but that
Speaker 1: would be decided by the practices, the pass rush drills,
Speaker 1: preseason games, how many there are, and all that that
Speaker 1: goes along with it. Question from Nathan do you think
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's approach to the offensive line would be
Speaker 1: the best way to go now by bringing in several
Speaker 1: options in both free agency and the draft and then
Speaker 1: letting them battle it out. Yeah, that's the ideal world.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you the thing you don't want to
Speaker 1: do though, You don't want to sign a free agent
Speaker 1: lineman just to sign one because the pressure to sign
Speaker 1: one is so immense that you sign a guy just
Speaker 1: to sign a guy, and then you have to draft. Still.
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, my whole thing is if you can,
Speaker 1: if you can double down, and you're doubling down because
Speaker 1: you think you've got two viable candidates and may the
Speaker 1: best man win, that's doubling down. Doubling Down's not like
Speaker 1: I'll sign this guy because damn, I better sign somebody,
Speaker 1: and then, jeez, if I really solved my if I
Speaker 1: really upgraded, I'm still gonna have to draft. That's not
Speaker 1: really doubling down. Doubling down is accumulating as much talent
Speaker 1: as you possibly can with as much resources as you
Speaker 1: possibly can, and letting the best man win. That's a
Speaker 1: true double down, and I hope the Bengals do it
Speaker 1: with offensive lineman for sure. All Right, We've got some
Speaker 1: Aj Green questions following the news that Aj is signing
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals from our friends at Bengals UK.
Speaker 1: You played with Isaac Curtis, you played with Charlie Joyner,
Speaker 1: You've seen Chad Johnson, Eddie Brown, t J. Hushman, Zada, etc.
Speaker 1: Where does Aj Green? Right? Well, he's right up there,
Speaker 1: you know, he's I think I think Isaac Curtis. If
Speaker 1: Isaac Curtis had played in today's football, I think he
Speaker 1: would have put up stupid numbers. I mean Isaac, Isaac
Speaker 1: was world class speed, with as good at hands, a
Speaker 1: good a pair of hands as I've ever seen. He
Speaker 1: Just being on the field with him and watching him
Speaker 1: do the things that he did is like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd ever can say that there
Speaker 1: may be another guy that could do what Isaac Curtis
Speaker 1: could do. He was mesmerizing, But Aj Green is right there.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's he's very very close. And the
Speaker 1: thing that they both have in common from a personality standpoint,
Speaker 1: very very similar to unbelievable human beings, you know, for
Speaker 1: for his elite a player as they are, they're an
Speaker 1: elite person that way and every way you can be
Speaker 1: a son, a husband, a father, a friend, you know,
Speaker 1: a citizen. I mean, they're just just unbelievable people. So
Speaker 1: the fact that that they gave you and Charlie Joyner
Speaker 1: falls into that category as from a human being standpoint,
Speaker 1: But he's, um, he didn't have the gifted skill set
Speaker 1: that that aj and Uh and Isaac Curtis do. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're they're like world class of lead athletes. And Charlie
Speaker 1: Joyner got the utmost out of what his physical abilities were,
Speaker 1: and he had some, but not to the levels that
Speaker 1: those guys did. But all three of those guys, you
Speaker 1: as a coach, you never had to worry about them
Speaker 1: causing any kind of problem whatsoever. Forget a week to
Speaker 1: week basis or even day to day, hour to hour basis.
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys were just unbelievable character as well
Speaker 1: as an incredible football player. So um, Yeah. AJ Green
Speaker 1: is somebody that man, what a what a mark, what
Speaker 1: a legacy He's left in this in this franchise for
Speaker 1: his on the field, off the field, just total person
Speaker 1: that Aj Green is. And that leads to this question
Speaker 1: from Jacob. Do you think AJ had the most influence
Speaker 1: on Bengals fandom in the past twenty five years? I
Speaker 1: would actually say Chad Johnson had more impact on fans
Speaker 1: just because you know, he moved the needle with everybody.
Speaker 1: You didn't even have to be a football fan to
Speaker 1: be interested in what Chad was up to. But but
Speaker 1: what do you think about that question? Did he have
Speaker 1: the most influence on the fans over the past twenty
Speaker 1: five years? I think that he didn't care about that
Speaker 1: and he had no intention of it. Whereas Chad or
Speaker 1: social media, you know, craving spotlight. That's what he wanted.
Speaker 1: That Chad wanted to be a social media maven and
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, you're right, Dan, I mean Chad,
Speaker 1: Chad is an influencer, you know, in a social media platform.
Speaker 1: AJ could give a hill of beans about that. We
Speaker 1: had no interest in it. So from that standpoint, they
Speaker 1: are at North and South Pole. But um, you know,
Speaker 1: the from a from a true football fan, the fanatic
Speaker 1: part of it. AJ had as much influence I think
Speaker 1: as anybody, but as far as periphery fans or people,
Speaker 1: I mean, Chad had Chad has an influence on had
Speaker 1: an influence and does still on people that aren't necessarily
Speaker 1: all that interested in football. Correct. I would agree with
Speaker 1: ad part all right. Whenever we shine the lap signal
Speaker 1: into the nighttime sky and ask for ask lap questions,
Speaker 1: we get a few that are a little bit off
Speaker 1: the wall. Here goes this is from my Bengals thoughts.
Speaker 1: Do you have any stories from when you played for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump? I know the answer to that question. You've
Speaker 1: got a ton of stories from when you played for
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the USFL. Why don't I te you
Speaker 1: up just to describe what it was like to walk
Speaker 1: in for that first contract meeting and Trump Tower? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was he was. He was impressive, to say the least.
Speaker 1: You know, the Trump Tower had just been completed, and uh,
Speaker 1: he had his penthouse offices up there on that top floor.
Speaker 1: And up you go, and uh, you know, you're you're
Speaker 1: in front of him and his desk and there's little depression.
Speaker 1: You go down a step into a seat and he's
Speaker 1: elevated behind him as a portrait of himself, and it's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: I'm not in Kansas anymore. I'm in the land of
Speaker 1: oz That's where we are right now. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was a very very m shrewd businessman,
Speaker 1: very fair though, and I remember saying, uh, Chief, this, this,
Speaker 1: this offer is pretty pretty nice. I mean, if we
Speaker 1: could guarantee the first two years done, son, I'm like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I wish I asked from pot guaranteed. He was a
Speaker 1: no nonsense guy. You know. There was no like let
Speaker 1: me think about it and come back tomorrow. He either
Speaker 1: were like I'm all for that, forget that. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was like he was very very uh to the point,
Speaker 1: and he just uh I think I think real successful
Speaker 1: people can make decisions like that, you know. And you
Speaker 1: know when when you look around his office and see
Speaker 1: all the projects that he had going and and that
Speaker 1: this football thing was was just almost like a fun
Speaker 1: thing for him, um compared to the other things that
Speaker 1: he was doing. But he was a very competitive guy.
Speaker 1: He loved he loved owned the football team. There's no
Speaker 1: question about it. He was a great owner and he
Speaker 1: just he whatever the coaches really wanted or needed, he
Speaker 1: would he would try to get that done. He was
Speaker 1: He was definitely somebody that was very, very u interested
Speaker 1: in being an owner in the National Football League. There's
Speaker 1: no question about them, all right. Our final ask lap
Speaker 1: question comes from Jim. What's the most fun you've ever
Speaker 1: had on a family vacation and do you have any recommendations?
Speaker 1: Our family vacation is the same thing. Every year. We're
Speaker 1: beach people. We go to the beach, and hilton Head
Speaker 1: has been the destination for quite a quite a few
Speaker 1: years now in the summertime where the entire family goes. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been to Florida and other places, but
Speaker 1: hilton Head is easier to get to and we really
Speaker 1: really enjoy hilton Head. So yeah, we're beach bums. I
Speaker 1: love everything about the beach, you know, and hilton Head
Speaker 1: offers all kinds of things on top of just you know,
Speaker 1: going to the beach. Twenty four seven, that's for sure,
Speaker 1: So I recommended, highly, highly recommend hilton Head. All right, buddy,
Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this week's edition of
Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm sure there will be or news to
Speaker 1: talk about in the very near future of and keeping
Speaker 1: an eye on my phone just in case any news
Speaker 1: signings happened during our conversation. They didn't, but I look
Speaker 1: forward to more breaking news in the days to come. Well,
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope our squared Riley reef. I hope
Speaker 1: they get him again, they get him sign it'd be
Speaker 1: nice that he'd be out there, Dan, And it's a pleasure,
Speaker 1: as always great catching up with you on the podcast.
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Speaker 1: After a memorable decade in Cincinnati that included Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: trips in each of his first seven seasons, AJ Green
Speaker 1: is headed to the Arizona Cardinals, signing a one year
Speaker 1: contract for six million dollars guaranteed, with incentives that could
Speaker 1: push that salary to eight point five million. We heard
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham discuss where he ranks Aj among the Bengals
Speaker 1: all time great wide receivers, and I asked my Brown
Speaker 1: about AJ's place in Bengals history a few years ago.
Speaker 1: If I had a starting all time Bengals team, he'd
Speaker 1: be on him. He brings a different package. He's fast,
Speaker 1: but not as fast as Easy, He's quick, but not
Speaker 1: as quick as chand he has a tremendous catching radius
Speaker 1: and a very competitive spirit. You feel really secure with
Speaker 1: him on one side. They have to overplay him. They
Speaker 1: know if they don't, they're in trouble. And yes, you're
Speaker 1: right when you say we've had a number of top
Speaker 1: white outs over the years. I think probably that is
Speaker 1: a position where we've had more than our share of
Speaker 1: great players. It has truly been my privilege to be
Speaker 1: behind the mic for all sixty five of AJ's touchdown
Speaker 1: catches in a Bengals uniform, and I puncture awaited many
Speaker 1: of those calls by saying his full name. In case
Speaker 1: you've never heard the story behind that, I was hired
Speaker 1: to be the Bengals radio broadcaster in May of two eleven,
Speaker 1: when I was still the radio TV voice of the
Speaker 1: Pentucket Red Sox. Since it was just a month into
Speaker 1: the baseball season, I didn't want to leave the pass
Speaker 1: Sox high and dry, so I stayed with the team
Speaker 1: until the beginning of September, meaning I wasn't able to
Speaker 1: attend Bengals training camp. That was AJ's rookie year and
Speaker 1: The first time I ever met him was before getting
Speaker 1: on a team bus prior to the first preseason game.
Speaker 1: I figured I would introduce myself and while making small talk,
Speaker 1: I asked him what AJ stood for. When he answered
Speaker 1: Adriel Jeremiah, I thought, what a cool name. It sounded
Speaker 1: majestic or biblical, and that's when I first thought it
Speaker 1: might be fun to use that after some of his
Speaker 1: biggest plays now an eye formation back field on first
Speaker 1: and ten, play action fake with out of the right,
Speaker 1: good ball for a wide open Jen catches at the eighteen.
Speaker 1: It's a touchdown for Adriel Jeremiah Green his eighth consecutive
Speaker 1: game with a touchdown catch on a beautiful fifty seven
Speaker 1: yard bomb from the red rifle to play action fake,
Speaker 1: Dalton sets up to throw, he rings it deep for
Speaker 1: a wide up in a J Green catches instig look
Speaker 1: at him go at the twenty ten the fun touchdown.
Speaker 1: Fangals eighty one yards to eighteen. Adriel Jeremiah Green boy
Speaker 1: out to the right, here's a past. AJ wiggles out
Speaker 1: of an ankle tackle and runs into the end zone
Speaker 1: for a Bengals touchdown. Great yak yards after catch produces
Speaker 1: a touchdown. For Adriel Jeremiah Green. Dalton takes a shotgun
Speaker 1: snap against the five man rush. He's gonna fire a teacher.
Speaker 1: AJ Green is hoping he bobbles it. He's got it
Speaker 1: half the funny, great God, he's still running ten five
Speaker 1: touchdown Adriel Jeremiah Green, seventy seven yards. The former juggler
Speaker 1: as a kid made a juggling catch and took it
Speaker 1: to the house to give the Bengals a twenty one
Speaker 1: to sixteen lead. On first and ten, Dalton fakes to
Speaker 1: mix some fills a high indeed. J Green catches half
Speaker 1: the buffalo forty It's pretty turn on the field. A
Speaker 1: club of gene and five touchdown seventy seven yards. Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton finding a J. Green, who roasted the rookie cornerback R.
Speaker 1: Davis White Boyd goes in motion. Dalton back to throw
Speaker 1: steps up, keeps it along. J Green is won Agemen.
Speaker 1: He's done. Touchdown Bengals as Andy Dalton floated a high
Speaker 1: rainbow fifty four yards down field, A touchdown AJ Green.
Speaker 1: No revas island there. It is third and seven at
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh twenty five. McCarron, five yards behind the line,
Speaker 1: takes a shotgun snap. It's a four man rush A J.
Speaker 1: Dun Field free J Greene. He catch and gets into
Speaker 1: the end zone. Touchdown Bengals a twenty five yard touchdown
Speaker 1: and the Bengals have a one point lead. Dalton back
Speaker 1: to throw. We're down to five seconds left and a half.
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw a high, deep hail Mary pass into
Speaker 1: the m JJ and it is Baba J makes the catch.
Speaker 1: I'm the ricochet hail Mary. A forty nine yard touchdown
Speaker 1: pass as a prairie is answered in the end zone
Speaker 1: by Adriel Jeremiah Green. Last but not least, about one
Speaker 1: month into his NFL career, AJ joined me on the
Speaker 1: pregame show for a fun Facts Interview Time Fantastic Funch
Speaker 1: Facts with eight reel Jeremiah Green. Anybody in your life
Speaker 1: that uses your real name? Uh? Sometimes my parents. Uh
Speaker 1: that's about it. Nobody else. Did They used to drop
Speaker 1: it on you when you got in trouble, Yeah, my
Speaker 1: mom did. All right, you're a South Carolina kid. Tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about where you're from. I'm from
Speaker 1: this little country place called Rigial, South Carolina. No nothing
Speaker 1: out there. This is a country area. And you know,
Speaker 1: just went to some real high school and that's what
Speaker 1: I played football. Speaking of Summerville High School, your high
Speaker 1: school football coach is the winningest high school football coach,
Speaker 1: John McKissick still going strong at eighty five, Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Eighty five is unbelievable. But he's still active. He's still coaches,
Speaker 1: So this is unbelievable. What was he like? Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he was really outgoing, always talking, you know, trying to coach. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he got rained over a couple of times
Speaker 1: on the sideline. So I don't know how he's still coaching,
Speaker 1: but he's a great guy. I read somewhere that he's
Speaker 1: retired one number in his fifty nine years or sixty
Speaker 1: years of high school coaching, it's yours. That must mean
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, definitely, Man, it's coming from him. You know,
Speaker 1: he seems a lot of great that that came through
Speaker 1: that program. And you know, I would just honor. So
Speaker 1: tenth grade high school, you verbally commit to Georgia. What
Speaker 1: was it about the Bulldogs that enthralled you? So it
Speaker 1: was just coach Raking, you know, just preaching to be
Speaker 1: a better man after the life of football, And I
Speaker 1: felt I could go anywhere and play and uh but
Speaker 1: just give me that that that that like growing up
Speaker 1: and being a man and being on my own. And
Speaker 1: I felt like coach was the best man for that.
Speaker 1: So after you did that, a bunch of big time
Speaker 1: coaches from other schools kept coming around trying to get
Speaker 1: you to change your mind. Right, Yeah, definitely, but you
Speaker 1: know I stayed firm, and uh, you know, I held
Speaker 1: it through. Who is your childhood hero? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: my dad got to be my parents, you know, just
Speaker 1: they always pushed high work and uh, you know, always
Speaker 1: said nothing as easy, always have to work for. Gotta
Speaker 1: be my parents. Did you have an athletic or somebody
Speaker 1: who's poster was on your bedroom wall? Anything like that?
Speaker 1: Part of Michael Jordan, you know, because he always striding
Speaker 1: stuff to be great. And that's what I'm trying to do.
Speaker 1: All right. So you're the number four pick in this
Speaker 1: year's draft. Obviously, whoever that is is well compensated. What's
Speaker 1: your splurge? What do you spend money on? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm just not really a big spender, but I love clothing, shoes,
Speaker 1: That's my passion, even though I don't even get dressed
Speaker 1: dressed that much. But you know, I just just knowledge
Speaker 1: that I know that I have them is always good.
Speaker 1: So I close horror sound. Yeah, clothing shoes, all right.
Speaker 1: I read it somewhere that you were on a juggling
Speaker 1: team as a kid. Yeah. What do they do in
Speaker 1: the juggling team? You know, you just juggle a different
Speaker 1: item like balls, scars, all kind of stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And we used to perform at halftimes a basketball game,
Speaker 1: so kind of fun. How many things could you get
Speaker 1: in the air? Four? Four? And then after sixth grade,
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it's not cool no more, so
Speaker 1: I just quick ajs a like riding a bike. Could
Speaker 1: you still juggle if we had four objects here right now?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. Uh. Gatorway did like a little special
Speaker 1: on me with a little juggling stuff, so I still
Speaker 1: got it this radio, So I'm not going to ask
Speaker 1: you too, So you're off the hook for now. Anyway.
Speaker 1: Have you had any other jobs other than professional athlete? Oh? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had one job at the store, like department store
Speaker 1: like Stephen Bears, and I used to work as xpies,
Speaker 1: but my coach made me quit of both, I mean
Speaker 1: both jobs because he said I have my whole life
Speaker 1: to work. So, uh, you know, I just focused on athletics.
Speaker 1: Well they sold shoes there, so you were able to
Speaker 1: indulge your habit probably for for liking shoes, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: a little bit for like two weeks. All right, what
Speaker 1: NFL star do you look forward to meeting? That'd be
Speaker 1: probably this scene pay Manny, you know, you know, just
Speaker 1: watching the whole my whole life growing up, and you know,
Speaker 1: just now I'm here like playing on the same fuel,
Speaker 1: well not playing on the same field, but in the NFL.
Speaker 1: But uh, pay many when you have Matt pig time
Speaker 1: people over the last year or two, are you a
Speaker 1: little bit awestruck? Are you over that? No? I think
Speaker 1: I'm over that now. So all right, fair enough. When
Speaker 1: you not at work, what do you enjoyed doing it?
Speaker 1: Hard to sleeping and playing the video games? I'll late?
Speaker 1: Do you sleep when you can? I mean, if you've
Speaker 1: got the freedom to sleep, how late will you go?
Speaker 1: Probably two o'clock, three o'clock. You know, no longer an
Speaker 1: option in the NFL. Exactly that you're lacking means need
Speaker 1: to get your wrist when you can. All right, you're
Speaker 1: off the hot seat, Thanks, thank you. Here's hoping for
Speaker 1: a spectacular next chapter in Arizona for AJ Green. I
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