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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The My Mama told Me a

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Speaker 1: better shop around. Addition, as Dave Lapham joins me to

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Speaker 1: take a look at the free agents who have agreed

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Speaker 1: to new deals in Cincinnati, some guys they are still

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Speaker 1: after that it's a tribute to a J Green, who

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Speaker 1: is moving on to Arizona after a memorable decade in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: that you'll be moved to tears as well. Now let's

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Speaker 1: get to football, as Dave Lapham joins me to discuss

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Speaker 1: free agency and much more. All right, lab, let's dive

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Speaker 1: right into free agency. So far from the Bengals, and

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Speaker 1: during the recording. But let's start with the biggest free

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a swap. They lost Carl Lawson, their

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Speaker 1: thirteen and a half sacks last year to tie for

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Speaker 1: agency had some depth to it Dan with the edge rushers,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals got one of each. You know, Ogan Joey,

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Speaker 1: Lawson has is very very unique, you know, and you

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Speaker 1: look at Carl Losson put his numbers up basically a

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Speaker 1: the two cornerbacks that have signed so far, beginning with

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to I work very hard on this name,

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Speaker 1: on the pronunciation. I think I've got it right. Shitubey

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Speaker 1: a Woogie shit Obey A Wougier, second round draft picked

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Speaker 1: not twice as good as Shitubey A. Wougier. In fact,

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Speaker 1: big apples. All right, we have discussed the guys that

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Speaker 1: the Bengals have signed, We've discussed a couple of guys

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Speaker 1: that they are still talking to, and they're obviously others

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Speaker 1: that they are talking to that have not become public.

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Speaker 1: But it's time to turn to a listener. We've got

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Speaker 1: a bunch of asked Lap questions that were submitted via Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and let's start with Ryan. Here's Ryan's question, Lap, why

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Speaker 1: have the Bengals ignored ignored their most glaring need of

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Speaker 1: offensive line so far? Shouldn't Burrow be the top priority

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Speaker 1: and we'd spending on the top lineman available. Related question

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Speaker 1: from Daniel is there a plan to protect the franchise quarterback?

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Speaker 1: So this is obviously the number one topic I think

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Speaker 1: for most Bengals fans. Why haven't they made a step

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Speaker 1: yet to fix the offensive line? Yeah? I think that

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Speaker 1: they decided that the amount of spend all your cap

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Speaker 1: on one guy or you know, maybe have room for

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Speaker 1: maybe one more player, they feel like addressing the defense

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Speaker 1: with three potential starters or more, and that they can

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Speaker 1: if they do end up getting a deal done with

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Speaker 1: Riley Reef. And I do think that there's pressure on

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Speaker 1: them to get a deal done with Riley Reef. If

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Speaker 1: they get that deal done, I think it eases the

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Speaker 1: pressure tremendously. But you know, the old Deald philosophy of uh,

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Speaker 1: do you want just one stellar offensive lineman and you

449
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Speaker 1: can't really afford to have, you know, four others? Or

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Speaker 1: would you rather have five good ones across the board? Uh?

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Speaker 1: You know that That's that's part of I guess they're

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Speaker 1: the philosophy. Bottom line is it's going to have to

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Speaker 1: be addressed. Um and if they didn't get it done

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Speaker 1: in free agency, if they don't get Riley Reef or

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Speaker 1: they don't get any offensive lineman sign in free agency

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Speaker 1: where it is not incredibly deep. There was there was

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Speaker 1: some talent um, but again it takes two to tango.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's there's multiple reasons why white guys signed

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Speaker 1: with teams, and money is up is number one. But

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Speaker 1: then if if you're going to get the money from

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Speaker 1: somebody another suitor, that is the playoff team and you're not.

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Speaker 1: I think the chat of Joe Burrow is a significant one.

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's a factor. And if I'm

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Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or free agent offensive lineman, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: to see who my quarterback might be. So I think

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow's definite plus. But you know, teams that that

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Speaker 1: that got the big value free agents forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: Kansas City Chiefs Enough said similar question from JT. Why

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Speaker 1: do the Bengals refuse to value guards the way the

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Speaker 1: rest of the successful teams do. Why not build a

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Speaker 1: superior line instead of going the cheap route. Well, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see what they what they

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Speaker 1: do end up with at at the guard position. And uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody was so sold and me and clude,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Duney's a great player, There's no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Trent Williams is a great player. Penney Stool is a

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Speaker 1: great player. And you start hearing about these guys and

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Speaker 1: if you don't get that guy, there's bitter disappointment. And

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Speaker 1: there's only one team that's going to get the guy.

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Speaker 1: Um so uh am I saying that that, I that

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Speaker 1: I as a former alignement, do I want the Bengals

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Speaker 1: offensive line to be improved upon and to to get

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Speaker 1: better with Frank Pollack. Give him some tools, gives him

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Speaker 1: some clay that he can mold into a solid offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, And I've said before our best offensive line

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Speaker 1: enfranchise history was in the eighties. Do we had good

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Speaker 1: lines in that decade? Who were the kingpins? The Mexican Connection?

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl left tackle Perennial, Anthony Munos, Pro Bowl guard

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Speaker 1: Max Montoya. Yeah. I mean there's there's no question that

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Speaker 1: that the best teams in Bengals history had the best

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Speaker 1: offensive lines in Bengals history operating with them with those

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Speaker 1: two guys, So it's it goes hand in hand. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt in my mind the Bengals offensive line

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Speaker 1: has to improve and and maybe the first step is

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Speaker 1: underway as we're as we're speaking here. If they can

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Speaker 1: get something done with Riley Reef and then and then

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Speaker 1: go and address things in the draft. I want to

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Speaker 1: go back to the beginning of JT's question, why do

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Speaker 1: the Bengals refuse to value guards the way the rest

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Speaker 1: of the successful teams do. The Patriots have been pretty successful.

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Speaker 1: They had Joe Tooney, they elected not to resign him

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Speaker 1: for those kinds of numbers. I think that the Bengals

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Speaker 1: are actually in the norm where where valuing guards is concerned.

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Speaker 1: I think their feeling is and this has been proven

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Speaker 1: out over history. You've got to spend on tackles and

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Speaker 1: you draft and develop guards, and I think that that's

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Speaker 1: probably the norm. Now, there are some exceptions. I think

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs showed recently they cut their tackles and they spent,

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Speaker 1: you know, big on a guard. The Saints have historically

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Speaker 1: spent big on guards. But I think by and large,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals are probably in the norm, at least in

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Speaker 1: terms of how they budget for their offensive line in thinking,

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Speaker 1: we've got to pay tackles at the top of the

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Speaker 1: pay scale, but if you do that with guards overall,

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Speaker 1: it's going to hurt your team. Yeah. Bottom line is

516
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Speaker 1: when push came to shove and the New England Patriots said, Okay,

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Speaker 1: well we've got money spent at X Y Z position

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Speaker 1: and one of them includes a guard. The guard's always

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Speaker 1: going to lose. That position is always going to be

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Speaker 1: the first one to go, no matter how great the

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Speaker 1: guy is. And it is puzzling that the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs who are exposed and abused on the edge in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with their two tackles injured, and they

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Speaker 1: got rid of both of them and they were injured

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Speaker 1: in and then they'd let them go for cap dollars

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Speaker 1: and everything else. It is interesting for them to go

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Speaker 1: the route that they've gone. I guess it's going to

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Speaker 1: be to see how that how that you know, the

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Speaker 1: final solution of that whole thing. You know, Pittsburgh with

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Speaker 1: the Castro has spent some money at guard. Um, you

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Speaker 1: know Cleveland has spent some money at guard. These are

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl caliber ligneman though, you know and and uh

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Speaker 1: and once you develop you develop a guy, he becomes

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Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber guy like tun tuney is. You know,

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get paid. But then when you have cap problems,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be the first ones to go. So

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Speaker 1: it is it's a it's an interesting diconomy that goes

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Speaker 1: on at that position. There's no doubt about it. Question

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Speaker 1: from Steve, Oh, could Bobby Heart be a decent guard?

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Speaker 1: I believe that if you can play tackle, most probably

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Speaker 1: you can play guard. But the one thing that Bobby

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Speaker 1: has had difficulty with is bull rush. And at guard

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get your butt bull rushed. So you know,

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Speaker 1: if if you can't stink your hips and handle the

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Speaker 1: bull rush out on the edge, gonna be harder to

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Speaker 1: sink your hips and handle a bullrush inside. Um, So

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Speaker 1: that that would be I guess my only concern there

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Speaker 1: does he have enough ballast and um, you know, lower

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Speaker 1: body strength and all those kind of things to uh

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Speaker 1: to to you know, to transition to the guard position.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting I've seen in my mind, having played

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Speaker 1: all five of the positions, I felt like, boy, if

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Speaker 1: you can play tack, you play you could play guard.

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Speaker 1: But there's you know, Willie Anderson. I remember talking to Willie.

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Speaker 1: Will He's like, man, I don't like I don't like guard.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like there's the traffic in there is

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Speaker 1: it's so much faster it is. It is almost like

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Speaker 1: rush hour. You know, you're you're in rush hour, and

559
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: it's rush hour on the interstate because it's not only traffic,

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Speaker 1: it's fast traffic. There's stuff twisting and turning and spinning

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Speaker 1: going crazy inside, and it's it's a quicker reaction time.

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Speaker 1: Some guys don't like the environment inside that if they've

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Speaker 1: if they've been out in the edge their whole career.

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Speaker 1: So there's you know, it's it's never a given, but

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Speaker 1: it would be interesting to see how Bobby would transition

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Speaker 1: to a guard if the Bengals wind up signing Riley

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Speaker 1: Reef or another of the tackles that's still out there,

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Speaker 1: and Piney Sewell is available with a fifth pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft and they take him. Who plays where? That's

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Speaker 1: a good problem to have your five best lineman hit

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Speaker 1: the field, you know. So I means as of right now,

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Speaker 1: without the draft, if they can get Riley Reef, I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously you'd still have Jonah Williams out there at left

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Speaker 1: tackle and then Riley Reef at the right tackle, and

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Speaker 1: then you'd have, in my mind a guide not to

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Speaker 1: give up on Identergy as a swing tackle. I think

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Speaker 1: Identergy is a good football player, and I think he

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00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 1: showed promise, and I think I think he'll develop even

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Speaker 1: further with Frank Pollock. I think that Frank's going to

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Speaker 1: teach him some techniques. I think that would be very

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Speaker 1: useful in his development. So it's going to be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see who ends up shift thing where. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've said a couple of times now in my mind,

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Speaker 1: I think Jonah Williams might be a good center. Now

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna do that with Trey Hopkins

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00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: the level level that he plays the center position. But

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Speaker 1: he's coming back from the ACCL. But he'll be back

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00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: and I think he'll be as good as he's ever been.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure about the very start of the season though.

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Speaker 1: So the thing you want is seven or eight starters

591
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Speaker 1: is what you want, and you want versatility. You want

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Speaker 1: You got your your starting five, but you want at

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Speaker 1: least another couple of guys can play multiple positions. And also,

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Speaker 1: um you want at least two of your offensive starting

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman to be able to play multiple positions. You

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Speaker 1: don't want to have to make two or three moves

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Speaker 1: because of one injury. So that that that would be

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Speaker 1: the ideal scenario for any NFL team. So if they

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Speaker 1: signed Riley Reef, and draft an a Suo or will

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Speaker 1: even say Rashaan Slater. So you've got Jonah Williams, Riley

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Speaker 1: Reef and Pennays Sewel. Which guy would be most likely

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Speaker 1: to move to guard? Maybe if it's only in the

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Speaker 1: short term, maybe Pennay Seouel. That's what they did with

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Speaker 1: Andrew Whitworth. I mean Worth you worked at guard to

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Speaker 1: acclimate himself to the National Football League. Because Dan as

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Speaker 1: great as as great as Seoul is from a physical standpoint,

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Speaker 1: looking at him, it's like if you put requirements and

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Speaker 1: specifications into a computer, Penney Sewel would come spitting out

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Speaker 1: of there. But he didn't play last year. He sat

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Speaker 1: out last year because of coronavirus. So he's got a

611
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 1: small sample size and it's not against the SEC. If

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Speaker 1: he was handling ten to twelve rushers that the SEC

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Speaker 1: provides on an annual basis, I'd feel better. But the

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Speaker 1: PAC twelve, I mean, I'm not saying that he can't

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Speaker 1: do it, but he hasn't shown that he can do it,

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Speaker 1: So to me, there's no there's no total guarantee, no

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00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: total given there. So it'd be up to Frank to

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Speaker 1: decide that, obviously, But it might be easier for Penasool

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Speaker 1: to transition inside working his way inside outside, but that

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Speaker 1: would be decided by the practices, the pass rush drills,

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Speaker 1: preseason games, how many there are, and all that that

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Speaker 1: goes along with it. Question from Nathan do you think

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bill's approach to the offensive line would be

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Speaker 1: the best way to go now by bringing in several

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00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: options in both free agency and the draft and then

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Speaker 1: letting them battle it out. Yeah, that's the ideal world.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you the thing you don't want to

628
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Speaker 1: do though, You don't want to sign a free agent

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Speaker 1: lineman just to sign one because the pressure to sign

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00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: one is so immense that you sign a guy just

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Speaker 1: to sign a guy, and then you have to draft. Still.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's like, my whole thing is if you can,

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Speaker 1: if you can double down, and you're doubling down because

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Speaker 1: you think you've got two viable candidates and may the

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Speaker 1: best man win, that's doubling down. Doubling Down's not like

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Speaker 1: I'll sign this guy because damn, I better sign somebody,

637
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: and then, jeez, if I really solved my if I

638
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: really upgraded, I'm still gonna have to draft. That's not

639
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: really doubling down. Doubling down is accumulating as much talent

640
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: as you possibly can with as much resources as you

641
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: possibly can, and letting the best man win. That's a

642
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: true double down, and I hope the Bengals do it

643
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: with offensive lineman for sure. All Right, We've got some

644
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: Aj Green questions following the news that Aj is signing

645
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 1: with the Arizona Cardinals from our friends at Bengals UK.

646
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: You played with Isaac Curtis, you played with Charlie Joyner,

647
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,479
Speaker 1: You've seen Chad Johnson, Eddie Brown, t J. Hushman, Zada, etc.

648
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: Where does Aj Green? Right? Well, he's right up there,

649
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, he's I think I think Isaac Curtis. If

650
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 1: Isaac Curtis had played in today's football, I think he

651
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: would have put up stupid numbers. I mean Isaac, Isaac

652
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: was world class speed, with as good at hands, a

653
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 1: good a pair of hands as I've ever seen. He

654
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: Just being on the field with him and watching him

655
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: do the things that he did is like, oh my god.

656
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'd ever can say that there

657
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,760
Speaker 1: may be another guy that could do what Isaac Curtis

658
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: could do. He was mesmerizing, But Aj Green is right there.

659
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's he's very very close. And the

660
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: thing that they both have in common from a personality standpoint,

661
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: very very similar to unbelievable human beings, you know, for

662
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: for his elite a player as they are, they're an

663
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: elite person that way and every way you can be

664
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: a son, a husband, a father, a friend, you know,

665
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 1: a citizen. I mean, they're just just unbelievable people. So

666
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: the fact that that they gave you and Charlie Joyner

667
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: falls into that category as from a human being standpoint,

668
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: But he's, um, he didn't have the gifted skill set

669
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: that that aj and Uh and Isaac Curtis do. I mean,

670
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 1: they're they're like world class of lead athletes. And Charlie

671
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: Joyner got the utmost out of what his physical abilities were,

672
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 1: and he had some, but not to the levels that

673
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: those guys did. But all three of those guys, you

674
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: as a coach, you never had to worry about them

675
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: causing any kind of problem whatsoever. Forget a week to

676
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: week basis or even day to day, hour to hour basis.

677
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, those guys were just unbelievable character as well

678
00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: as an incredible football player. So um, Yeah. AJ Green

679
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: is somebody that man, what a what a mark, what

680
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: a legacy He's left in this in this franchise for

681
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: his on the field, off the field, just total person

682
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: that Aj Green is. And that leads to this question

683
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: from Jacob. Do you think AJ had the most influence

684
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: on Bengals fandom in the past twenty five years? I

685
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: would actually say Chad Johnson had more impact on fans

686
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: just because you know, he moved the needle with everybody.

687
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: You didn't even have to be a football fan to

688
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: be interested in what Chad was up to. But but

689
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 1: what do you think about that question? Did he have

690
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 1: the most influence on the fans over the past twenty

691
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: five years? I think that he didn't care about that

692
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: and he had no intention of it. Whereas Chad or

693
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 1: social media, you know, craving spotlight. That's what he wanted.

694
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: That Chad wanted to be a social media maven and

695
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, you're right, Dan, I mean Chad,

696
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: Chad is an influencer, you know, in a social media platform.

697
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: AJ could give a hill of beans about that. We

698
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: had no interest in it. So from that standpoint, they

699
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: are at North and South Pole. But um, you know,

700
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: the from a from a true football fan, the fanatic

701
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: part of it. AJ had as much influence I think

702
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: as anybody, but as far as periphery fans or people,

703
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: I mean, Chad had Chad has an influence on had

704
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: an influence and does still on people that aren't necessarily

705
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: all that interested in football. Correct. I would agree with

706
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: ad part all right. Whenever we shine the lap signal

707
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 1: into the nighttime sky and ask for ask lap questions,

708
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: we get a few that are a little bit off

709
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:50,720
Speaker 1: the wall. Here goes this is from my Bengals thoughts.

710
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: Do you have any stories from when you played for

711
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: Donald Trump? I know the answer to that question. You've

712
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: got a ton of stories from when you played for

713
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: Donald Trump in the USFL. Why don't I te you

714
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: up just to describe what it was like to walk

715
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: in for that first contract meeting and Trump Tower? Yeah,

716
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: that was he was. He was impressive, to say the least.

717
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 1: You know, the Trump Tower had just been completed, and uh,

718
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: he had his penthouse offices up there on that top floor.

719
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: And up you go, and uh, you know, you're you're

720
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: in front of him and his desk and there's little depression.

721
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: You go down a step into a seat and he's

722
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: elevated behind him as a portrait of himself, and it's like, whoa,

723
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm not in Kansas anymore. I'm in the land of

724
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: oz That's where we are right now. But uh yeah,

725
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: he was. He was a very very m shrewd businessman,

726
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: very fair though, and I remember saying, uh, Chief, this, this,

727
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: this offer is pretty pretty nice. I mean, if we

728
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: could guarantee the first two years done, son, I'm like, oh, man,

729
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: I wish I asked from pot guaranteed. He was a

730
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: no nonsense guy. You know. There was no like let

731
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: me think about it and come back tomorrow. He either

732
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: were like I'm all for that, forget that. I mean,

733
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: it was like he was very very uh to the point,

734
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: and he just uh I think I think real successful

735
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: people can make decisions like that, you know. And you

736
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 1: know when when you look around his office and see

737
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 1: all the projects that he had going and and that

738
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: this football thing was was just almost like a fun

739
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: thing for him, um compared to the other things that

740
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: he was doing. But he was a very competitive guy.

741
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: He loved he loved owned the football team. There's no

742
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: question about it. He was a great owner and he

743
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: just he whatever the coaches really wanted or needed, he

744
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: would he would try to get that done. He was

745
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: He was definitely somebody that was very, very u interested

746
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: in being an owner in the National Football League. There's

747
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 1: no question about them, all right. Our final ask lap

748
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: question comes from Jim. What's the most fun you've ever

749
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 1: had on a family vacation and do you have any recommendations?

750
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,919
Speaker 1: Our family vacation is the same thing. Every year. We're

751
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: beach people. We go to the beach, and hilton Head

752
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: has been the destination for quite a quite a few

753
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 1: years now in the summertime where the entire family goes. Well,

754
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, we've been to Florida and other places, but

755
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: hilton Head is easier to get to and we really

756
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: really enjoy hilton Head. So yeah, we're beach bums. I

757
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: love everything about the beach, you know, and hilton Head

758
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: offers all kinds of things on top of just you know,

759
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: going to the beach. Twenty four seven, that's for sure,

760
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: So I recommended, highly, highly recommend hilton Head. All right, buddy,

761
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: that's going to do it for this week's edition of

762
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm sure there will be or news to

763
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: talk about in the very near future of and keeping

764
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: an eye on my phone just in case any news

765
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: signings happened during our conversation. They didn't, but I look

766
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: forward to more breaking news in the days to come. Well,

767
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: I hope, I hope our squared Riley reef. I hope

768
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: they get him again, they get him sign it'd be

769
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: nice that he'd be out there, Dan, And it's a pleasure,

770
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: as always great catching up with you on the podcast.

771
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth podcast is presented by Bud Light Seltzer.

772
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 1: It's light and refreshing with a hint of fruit flavor.

773
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 1: After a memorable decade in Cincinnati that included Pro Bowl

774
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,800
Speaker 1: trips in each of his first seven seasons, AJ Green

775
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: is headed to the Arizona Cardinals, signing a one year

776
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: contract for six million dollars guaranteed, with incentives that could

777
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: push that salary to eight point five million. We heard

778
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: Dave Lapham discuss where he ranks Aj among the Bengals

779
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: all time great wide receivers, and I asked my Brown

780
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: about AJ's place in Bengals history a few years ago.

781
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 1: If I had a starting all time Bengals team, he'd

782
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: be on him. He brings a different package. He's fast,

783
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: but not as fast as Easy, He's quick, but not

784
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: as quick as chand he has a tremendous catching radius

785
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:32,759
Speaker 1: and a very competitive spirit. You feel really secure with

786
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: him on one side. They have to overplay him. They

787
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,359
Speaker 1: know if they don't, they're in trouble. And yes, you're

788
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,280
Speaker 1: right when you say we've had a number of top

789
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: white outs over the years. I think probably that is

790
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: a position where we've had more than our share of

791
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: great players. It has truly been my privilege to be

792
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: behind the mic for all sixty five of AJ's touchdown

793
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: catches in a Bengals uniform, and I puncture awaited many

794
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: of those calls by saying his full name. In case

795
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: you've never heard the story behind that, I was hired

796
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: to be the Bengals radio broadcaster in May of two eleven,

797
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: when I was still the radio TV voice of the

798
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: Pentucket Red Sox. Since it was just a month into

799
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: the baseball season, I didn't want to leave the pass

800
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: Sox high and dry, so I stayed with the team

801
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: until the beginning of September, meaning I wasn't able to

802
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: attend Bengals training camp. That was AJ's rookie year and

803
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 1: The first time I ever met him was before getting

804
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: on a team bus prior to the first preseason game.

805
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: I figured I would introduce myself and while making small talk,

806
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: I asked him what AJ stood for. When he answered

807
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 1: Adriel Jeremiah, I thought, what a cool name. It sounded

808
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: majestic or biblical, and that's when I first thought it

809
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 1: might be fun to use that after some of his

810
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: biggest plays now an eye formation back field on first

811
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: and ten, play action fake with out of the right,

812
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: good ball for a wide open Jen catches at the eighteen.

813
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:13,800
Speaker 1: It's a touchdown for Adriel Jeremiah Green his eighth consecutive

814
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: game with a touchdown catch on a beautiful fifty seven

815
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: yard bomb from the red rifle to play action fake,

816
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: Dalton sets up to throw, he rings it deep for

817
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: a wide up in a J Green catches instig look

818
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:31,399
Speaker 1: at him go at the twenty ten the fun touchdown.

819
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: Fangals eighty one yards to eighteen. Adriel Jeremiah Green boy

820
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: out to the right, here's a past. AJ wiggles out

821
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: of an ankle tackle and runs into the end zone

822
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 1: for a Bengals touchdown. Great yak yards after catch produces

823
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 1: a touchdown. For Adriel Jeremiah Green. Dalton takes a shotgun

824
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: snap against the five man rush. He's gonna fire a teacher.

825
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: AJ Green is hoping he bobbles it. He's got it

826
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: half the funny, great God, he's still running ten five

827
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 1: touchdown Adriel Jeremiah Green, seventy seven yards. The former juggler

828
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: as a kid made a juggling catch and took it

829
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: to the house to give the Bengals a twenty one

830
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: to sixteen lead. On first and ten, Dalton fakes to

831
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: mix some fills a high indeed. J Green catches half

832
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: the buffalo forty It's pretty turn on the field. A

833
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:36,440
Speaker 1: club of gene and five touchdown seventy seven yards. Andy

834
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: Dalton finding a J. Green, who roasted the rookie cornerback R.

835
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: Davis White Boyd goes in motion. Dalton back to throw

836
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: steps up, keeps it along. J Green is won Agemen.

837
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: He's done. Touchdown Bengals as Andy Dalton floated a high

838
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: rainbow fifty four yards down field, A touchdown AJ Green.

839
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,839
Speaker 1: No revas island there. It is third and seven at

840
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh twenty five. McCarron, five yards behind the line,

841
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: takes a shotgun snap. It's a four man rush A J.

842
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: Dun Field free J Greene. He catch and gets into

843
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: the end zone. Touchdown Bengals a twenty five yard touchdown

844
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: and the Bengals have a one point lead. Dalton back

845
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: to throw. We're down to five seconds left and a half.

846
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,959
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw a high, deep hail Mary pass into

847
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: the m JJ and it is Baba J makes the catch.

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Speaker 1: I'm the ricochet hail Mary. A forty nine yard touchdown

849
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Speaker 1: pass as a prairie is answered in the end zone

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Speaker 1: by Adriel Jeremiah Green. Last but not least, about one

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Speaker 1: month into his NFL career, AJ joined me on the

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Speaker 1: pregame show for a fun Facts Interview Time Fantastic Funch

853
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Speaker 1: Facts with eight reel Jeremiah Green. Anybody in your life

854
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 1: that uses your real name? Uh? Sometimes my parents. Uh

855
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: that's about it. Nobody else. Did They used to drop

856
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: it on you when you got in trouble, Yeah, my

857
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:16,879
Speaker 1: mom did. All right, you're a South Carolina kid. Tell

858
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 1: us a little bit about where you're from. I'm from

859
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 1: this little country place called Rigial, South Carolina. No nothing

860
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: out there. This is a country area. And you know,

861
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Speaker 1: just went to some real high school and that's what

862
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: I played football. Speaking of Summerville High School, your high

863
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: school football coach is the winningest high school football coach,

864
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Speaker 1: John McKissick still going strong at eighty five, Is that right? Yeah?

865
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: Eighty five is unbelievable. But he's still active. He's still coaches,

866
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: So this is unbelievable. What was he like? Uh, you know,

867
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 1: he was really outgoing, always talking, you know, trying to coach. Uh,

868
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, he got rained over a couple of times

869
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 1: on the sideline. So I don't know how he's still coaching,

870
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: but he's a great guy. I read somewhere that he's

871
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 1: retired one number in his fifty nine years or sixty

872
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: years of high school coaching, it's yours. That must mean

873
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, definitely, Man, it's coming from him. You know,

874
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: he seems a lot of great that that came through

875
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: that program. And you know, I would just honor. So

876
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: tenth grade high school, you verbally commit to Georgia. What

877
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: was it about the Bulldogs that enthralled you? So it

878
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: was just coach Raking, you know, just preaching to be

879
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: a better man after the life of football, And I

880
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: felt I could go anywhere and play and uh but

881
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 1: just give me that that that that like growing up

882
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: and being a man and being on my own. And

883
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: I felt like coach was the best man for that.

884
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: So after you did that, a bunch of big time

885
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 1: coaches from other schools kept coming around trying to get

886
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: you to change your mind. Right, Yeah, definitely, but you

887
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,879
Speaker 1: know I stayed firm, and uh, you know, I held

888
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: it through. Who is your childhood hero? Um? You know,

889
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: my dad got to be my parents, you know, just

890
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: they always pushed high work and uh, you know, always

891
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:57,439
Speaker 1: said nothing as easy, always have to work for. Gotta

892
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,720
Speaker 1: be my parents. Did you have an athletic or somebody

893
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 1: who's poster was on your bedroom wall? Anything like that?

894
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 1: Part of Michael Jordan, you know, because he always striding

895
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: stuff to be great. And that's what I'm trying to do.

896
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 1: All right. So you're the number four pick in this

897
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: year's draft. Obviously, whoever that is is well compensated. What's

898
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: your splurge? What do you spend money on? Um? You know,

899
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm just not really a big spender, but I love clothing, shoes,

900
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: That's my passion, even though I don't even get dressed

901
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: dressed that much. But you know, I just just knowledge

902
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,439
Speaker 1: that I know that I have them is always good.

903
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: So I close horror sound. Yeah, clothing shoes, all right.

904
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,320
Speaker 1: I read it somewhere that you were on a juggling

905
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: team as a kid. Yeah. What do they do in

906
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: the juggling team? You know, you just juggle a different

907
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: item like balls, scars, all kind of stuff like that.

908
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: And we used to perform at halftimes a basketball game,

909
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: so kind of fun. How many things could you get

910
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 1: in the air? Four? Four? And then after sixth grade,

911
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: I was like, man, it's not cool no more, so

912
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: I just quick ajs a like riding a bike. Could

913
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: you still juggle if we had four objects here right now?

914
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, definitely. Uh. Gatorway did like a little special

915
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: on me with a little juggling stuff, so I still

916
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,759
Speaker 1: got it this radio, So I'm not going to ask

917
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: you too, So you're off the hook for now. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Have you had any other jobs other than professional athlete? Oh? Yeah,

919
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 1: I had one job at the store, like department store

920
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: like Stephen Bears, and I used to work as xpies,

921
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: but my coach made me quit of both, I mean

922
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: both jobs because he said I have my whole life

923
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: to work. So, uh, you know, I just focused on athletics.

924
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: Well they sold shoes there, so you were able to

925
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: indulge your habit probably for for liking shoes, right, yeah,

926
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: a little bit for like two weeks. All right, what

927
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: NFL star do you look forward to meeting? That'd be

928
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: probably this scene pay Manny, you know, you know, just

929
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 1: watching the whole my whole life growing up, and you know,

930
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: just now I'm here like playing on the same fuel,

931
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: well not playing on the same field, but in the NFL.

932
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: But uh, pay many when you have Matt pig time

933
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: people over the last year or two, are you a

934
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: little bit awestruck? Are you over that? No? I think

935
00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: I'm over that now. So all right, fair enough. When

936
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: you not at work, what do you enjoyed doing it?

937
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: Hard to sleeping and playing the video games? I'll late?

938
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,359
Speaker 1: Do you sleep when you can? I mean, if you've

939
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: got the freedom to sleep, how late will you go?

940
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 1: Probably two o'clock, three o'clock. You know, no longer an

941
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: option in the NFL. Exactly that you're lacking means need

942
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: to get your wrist when you can. All right, you're

943
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: off the hot seat, Thanks, thank you. Here's hoping for

944
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: a spectacular next chapter in Arizona for AJ Green. I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this week's episode of the Bengals Booth Podcast,

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