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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy

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Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me Joey P. Joe P. Zapia

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Speaker 1: and today, well today we're gonna feed you your vegetables.

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Speaker 1: That's right, because the worst thing that you could do

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Speaker 1: is be fed a bad set of takes by people

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Speaker 1: who get bored trying to make something out of nothing.

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Speaker 1: And today is not that show. I want to steer

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Speaker 1: everyone away from bad advice and from bad things because

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Speaker 1: the rookie running back class and quarterback class it's not great. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Now you should listen to the show today, and I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna tell you why, because I think when you're out there,

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Speaker 1: people get bored. They all of a sudden have shows

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Speaker 1: to do and things to say, and they keep trying

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Speaker 1: to make things happen that might not happen. Now, there

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Speaker 1: will be some guys we talk about today that will

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Speaker 1: make fantasy impact. But the thing to take away from

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Speaker 1: this is truth and honesty and to speak truth to power. Today,

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Speaker 1: Jake Seally from the Athletic Debro, Derek Brown, the King

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Speaker 1: of Brose and myself Joey P. So we are here

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Speaker 1: today on the pro to walk you through the rookie class,

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Speaker 1: talk about some dynasty guys, some deeper league rows, maybe

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Speaker 1: some situations that could possibly work out over time. But

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Speaker 1: it's one thing the three of us agree on. It's

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Speaker 1: that there's not a whole lot to get excited about

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Speaker 1: when it comes to these positions in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: Some just not a lot. Jake Sealey, you're somebody that

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Speaker 1: always likes to rain on people's parades. So would you

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Speaker 1: like to add anything to the opening to the show

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Speaker 1: that I just threw out there for the audience?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'll spin it here slightly positive if you want.

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Speaker 2: I just tweeted out earlier today for ready for this show.

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Speaker 2: Over the past fifteen seasons, running backs drafted on Day

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Speaker 2: three who had at least one hundred and twenty points,

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Speaker 2: So about RB thirty six. That's about the average RB

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Speaker 2: thirty six somebody we care about. There's been twenty two.

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Speaker 2: It's about one and a half per season of those

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Speaker 2: ten points per game or more six.

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Speaker 3: But here's the good news.

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Speaker 2: It's the seasons after one hundred and four seasons of that,

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Speaker 2: after of one hundred and twenty points sixty nine of

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Speaker 2: ten points per gamer more, a lot of those are

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Speaker 2: the same running back a couple times two, three, four seasons,

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Speaker 2: But the running backs that did this averaged about four

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Speaker 2: play five or six years and then have some RB

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Speaker 2: three or better value. So don't get excited for this year,

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Speaker 2: but there's potential in years two, three, four, and five

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Speaker 2: where it doesn't. It's not a death noll like I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of people are talking about that right now.

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Speaker 2: Is day three is a death knell to their careers.

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Speaker 1: It's not.

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Speaker 3: It's just pretty much a death nell for their rookie season.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's a that's a very healthy approach, debro You're

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Speaker 1: a very healthy guy, you know. It's sort of kind

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Speaker 1: of let's talk about So let's talk about the general

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Speaker 1: take here, because I think what Jake is saying is correct,

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Speaker 1: which is the immediate impact here is tough for a

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Speaker 1: lot of players in these two positions we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about today. It doesn't mean never. It just means you

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Speaker 1: have to be patient. So it's more of a long

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Speaker 1: term look. It's more of a dynasty look and also

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Speaker 1: a scenario that's going to present itself over the years

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Speaker 1: where you start to say these guys almost get forgotten

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Speaker 1: about because next year his class is gonna come around

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Speaker 1: and everyone's gonna get really excited about them. And then

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Speaker 1: there's these post hype guys that all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: start to fall into your laps and drafts, And I

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Speaker 1: think that might be the thing to remember going into

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven draft season. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't disagree with that, And it makes just intuitive

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Speaker 4: sense too, of like players, if they earn their way

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Speaker 4: up the depth chart, and the following season after they

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Speaker 4: do that, then you're looking at better productivity. So we're

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Speaker 4: not talking about them today on this show, but I

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Speaker 4: guess people should feel better about Cam'scattaboo and maybe Bill

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Speaker 1: Certainly Cam'scataboo. I feel pretty good about Campscataboo right now.

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Speaker 1: I was a little worried going to the draft. Not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie all right, So let's get after it.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about he's one of the ones that was

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Speaker 2: over ten fancy points per game but didn't hit one

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Speaker 1: So there's a couple of those from his body that

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Speaker 1: was unfortunate circumstances there. So we're gonna talk about some

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Speaker 1: of these names first, the guys who could actually make

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Speaker 1: an impact, and obviously the biggest name here to start

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Speaker 1: is Jeremiah Love. We know that he was selected here

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Speaker 1: of our mock draft shows debro we had him going

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Speaker 1: as early as three. And I remember when that worm

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Speaker 1: started to turn about a month ago, when we started

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Speaker 1: they signed out year, it doesn't mean you should all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden pass on arguably the most impactful offensive

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Jeremiah Love, what that pathway looks like.

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Speaker 1: And with a staunch reminder of the first six weeks

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Speaker 1: or any rookie running back has been difficult, I would

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Speaker 1: say in the last three to four years of fantasy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think, like you know, the the

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Speaker 4: Bowl case for Jeremiah Love is pretty easy. I mean,

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Speaker 4: you want to talk about the talent and stuff, but

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Speaker 4: even talking about quarterback, it's like, okay, let's rain on

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Speaker 4: the parade. So there are definitely like a lot of

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Speaker 4: I think James Connor with them reworking his contract, I'll

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Speaker 4: be very surprised if he's not traded before week one.

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Speaker 4: We shall see. But the quarterback stuff is still a

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Speaker 4: big worry. Like even if good lord, if you're a

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Speaker 4: Carson Beckstan, I don't even know what to tell you,

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Speaker 4: like you didn't watch the film, but you know, right

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Speaker 4: now with volume I've got him at RB twelve. Right now,

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Speaker 4: Like I don't want to be like too far above

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Speaker 5: All going to come to fruition. He will be a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like, hey, how do you ruin an

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Speaker 1: for you, Tyler Algier. That's what you do, no matter

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Speaker 5: Doesn't arrival. That is Arthur Smith. As far as like.

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Speaker 1: Randon Brell, he just ruins everything. Jake Seely, I know

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Speaker 1: you've already got your ranks up early because I know,

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Speaker 1: I know how you. I know the Sealy. I spent

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Speaker 1: let just talk about it here. Where do you have

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Speaker 1: Believe me, no one should apologize more than you. I agree. So,

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah Love, where do you have him right now in

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Speaker 1: your early overall rankings? Because I'm sure some people are

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Speaker 1: already talking about him as a late first round pick,

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Speaker 1: maybe even higher. I know when draft season comes, people

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Speaker 1: are gonna get real hyped up and real excited for

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Speaker 1: the new things. But how do you pump the brakes

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Speaker 2: It is at the end of round two as RB twelve.

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Speaker 2: That's where I have him in my rankings. And it's

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Speaker 2: not the fact that I know, like I had Jeremiah Love,

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Speaker 2: I said, there's no way he's not on RB one immediately,

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Speaker 2: Like we're talking about fifty five percent of the work. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs did that last year and was RB one.

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Speaker 2: Has his rookie season, he only had forty six percent

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Speaker 3: So it's not the fact that.

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Speaker 2: I don't like Love, and it's not the fact that

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Speaker 2: I'm that scared about his landing spot. It's just the

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Speaker 2: fact that everybody in front of him last questions, they've

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Speaker 3: So I am a twelve.

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Speaker 2: If you want to argue to take him a few

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Speaker 2: he's going to be drafted. I agree six to seven

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about another running back to landed in a

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Speaker 1: spot that certainly makes a lot of sense. We had

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Speaker 1: a lot of mock drafts here on the program all

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Speaker 1: off season leading up to the NFO Draft where the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks just took generium price because it made a lot

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Speaker 1: of sends. And guess what, that's what the Seahawks did.

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Speaker 1: So Zach Sharbonny coming back from an ACL tier. Again,

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Speaker 1: we don't have a real timetable for him yet. Emmanuel

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Speaker 1: Wilson signed this offseason right who At times when he

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Speaker 1: had to replace Josh Jacobs last year performed I would

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Speaker 1: say admirable. I know I had streaming him in a

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Speaker 1: like and how does it affect Price immediately in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six, because it seems like a really good camp

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Speaker 1: could open up a path for a lot of playing

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Speaker 1: time for him early on.

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Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts, Jake. I'm a huge fan

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Speaker 2: of this landing spot. Mostly when we were talking about

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Speaker 2: pre draft, Dame Brugler mocked Mike Washington them and I

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Speaker 2: was like, ooh, Mike Washington is the lead of the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: And then the more I thought about it, and then

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Speaker 2: after talking with Fits, I was like, you.

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Speaker 3: Know what, I don't love the fit.

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Speaker 2: Actually, I don't want Mike Washington in a stre zone

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Speaker 2: running scheme. I don't like. I don't think he actually

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Speaker 2: more power between the tackles, and then they take Price,

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Speaker 2: which you know this I compared to rhuem Mostert rhuem

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Speaker 2: Oster in a stretch zone rushing scheme that they plan

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Speaker 2: to have for the Seahawks, and this, yes, sign me up.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if he's not catching the ball, Like

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Speaker 2: that's how excited I am about like touchdowns, two hundred

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Speaker 2: and forty, two hundred and fifty plus touches without being

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Speaker 3: And I say without fifteen to twenty.

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Speaker 4: I've got him in that borderline like low end RB

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Again, Like I don't see

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Speaker 4: Like we're not gonna go from last year Seattle concoction

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Speaker 4: Jeneering Price is gonna get a lot of work.

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Speaker 1: Well, Mike Washington, I thought was gonna get a lot

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Speaker 4: I think there's a path to make an impact because

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Speaker 5: They're going to run the freaking ball.

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Speaker 4: And this year, if they're not going to compete for

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Speaker 4: I think he's probably gonna sniff like one hundred to

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Speaker 1: As that's like you've got to be so efficient, you know,

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Speaker 1: Well, certainly I could see a world again, I don't

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Speaker 2: This it has nothing to do with Mike Washington is like,

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Speaker 2: this is actually why I feel uneasy. And as of today,

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Speaker 2: because we just talked about what did Kopak just do

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's stay with the Raiders here because obviously

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people think that the Kirk

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Speaker 5: Is starting week one. I'll make a bet on that line.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, there you go, there you go, signed, sealed, delivered,

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Speaker 1: Jake Seely's witness. I think it's gonna be Mendoza. I

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Speaker 1: what that path looks like for him in your opinion,

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Speaker 2: So I'll take the second part first, and the fact

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Speaker 1: Which again that made my head hurt, that that tag

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Speaker 2: But continue j Yeah, that nice little Cydebar Josh Rosdens

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Speaker 1: So like my career is bad enough? Ing me along

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Speaker 3: Hey, look he's going to kobiak. They have some weapons.

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Speaker 2: I actually thought they would address wide receiver a little

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Speaker 2: that's the one I'd like to see there. Well here's

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Speaker 3: But if you said the.

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Speaker 1: I don't know when you're the number one overall pick,

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Speaker 1: The difference is the hole that it puts you in

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Speaker 1: like that's their job is to think that. And and

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Speaker 1: then Brady, But I think that too.

435
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Speaker 4: Brady has been very vocal about a quarterback sitting and learning.

436
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Speaker 4: You think Brady thinks that, Joey, I agree.

437
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Speaker 1: With the sentiment. I just don't think in the practice

438
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Speaker 1: is going to happen. But we'll find out. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to week that Brady ride to the Channel Fantasy Pros

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Speaker 1: and then find out Week one and what happens, and

441
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Speaker 1: we'll see, well the bets get paid? All right, Jake,

442
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Speaker 1: you had one more guy that you wanted to mention

443
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Speaker 1: in this grouping? Did you want to go ahead and

444
00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,080
Speaker 1: ping him real quick? If a guy who could make

445
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Speaker 1: those another running back there.

446
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Speaker 2: We're talking pure PPR. We're talking about purely where he

447
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,160
Speaker 2: went and the opening potentially behind Kenneth Walker and Emma

448
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,919
Speaker 2: Johnson if he falls into the Jerreck McKinnon role that

449
00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,840
Speaker 2: we're like, oh my gosh, and even get some goal

450
00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,920
Speaker 2: line work that would be interesting, interesting to see.

451
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Speaker 3: You have to watch.

452
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Speaker 2: Obviously, he needs to get the backup job, but I

453
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Speaker 2: think he can. I think he actually has the talent

454
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Speaker 2: to be the backup pass getcher and actually thought that

455
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Speaker 2: would be his entire NFL career. I know some people

456
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Speaker 2: were higher on him than I was, but I think

457
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Speaker 2: this role and I actually really like the fact that

458
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Speaker 2: he landed with this role potentially on the Chiefs, that

459
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Speaker 2: that would be kind of the only other name that

460
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Speaker 2: I think might outside of injuries and things happen like that.

461
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Speaker 2: I think the only one that like path as it stands,

462
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Speaker 2: probably falls into Like I know, we're going to talk

463
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Speaker 2: about another one that has a path, but I think

464
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Speaker 2: his is the clearest the other names that are day three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we like his tape too. Deebro and I did

466
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Speaker 1: the film room on him, and we thought Johnson again

467
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Speaker 1: would probably do okay in the NFL landing spot. Look,

468
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Speaker 1: ken Walker's health has never been great either, so just

469
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Speaker 1: the first name here because Debro I kind of smiled

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Speaker 1: a little bit because one of our favorite kind of

499
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Speaker 1: like quiet quarterbacks, Cole Peyton, a lot of athleticism, big arm,

500
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Speaker 1: needs to fix some things in the footwork. It's a

501
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Speaker 1: couple other things and left QB we both liked and

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Speaker 1: he landed a spot that I think is kind of

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Speaker 1: interesting because if things fall apart in Philadelphia, maybe, just

504
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Speaker 1: maybe Cole Payton could be a guy in a year

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Speaker 1: or two that could actually get a look. What do

506
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Speaker 1: you think about the landing spot for Cole Payton with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles again selected by a team, it's pretty

508
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Speaker 1: good when it comes to talent evaluation. Another thing to

509
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Speaker 1: keep in mind when evaluating some of the guys we

510
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Speaker 1: talk about.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look how he does, how he thinks,

512
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Speaker 4: and that the high upside swings are there. Just look

513
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Speaker 4: at their draft class this year, and I think Cole

514
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Speaker 4: Payton's part of that discussion. And the big thing that

515
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Speaker 4: like where you look at the composition of the depth

516
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Speaker 4: chart right now, he's gonna be the QB four right now.

517
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Speaker 5: But again we're talking.

518
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Speaker 4: We've discussed Cole Payton throughout the entirety of the offseason

519
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Speaker 4: as a guy that we didn't want to start right now.

520
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 4: He needed to sit, he needed to learn and grow.

521
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Speaker 4: And after this season, Andy Dalton Tanner McKee are both

522
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Speaker 4: free agents we could walk into twenty twenty seven and

523
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Speaker 4: Cole Payton is the clear QB two behind Jalen Hurts.

524
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Speaker 4: And you look at the body, the archetype, the skill

525
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Speaker 4: sets and stuff of Cole Peyton too, there's a lot

526
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Speaker 4: to like there.

527
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Speaker 5: And so you're telling me, like, look, the.

528
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Speaker 4: Eagles cannot get out of Jalen Hurts his contract basically

529
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Speaker 4: the earliest until twenty twenty eight. A lot of things

530
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 4: can happen between now and then, But a guy that

531
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Speaker 4: based off of the upside and the talent and the

532
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Speaker 4: rushing equity. And I hated the ten t Bow comparisons

533
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Speaker 4: throughout the entirety of the pre draft process.

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Speaker 1: Because nonsense, it's absolutely.

535
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Speaker 4: Way better as an arm talent. They're not even way

536
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: better arment terrible. Like again, another player that we broke down,

537
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 4: which film studio and stuff like who said.

538
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Speaker 1: That I want to go to their house with my

539
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Speaker 1: friend Josha.

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Speaker 5: On social media? I mean that was that was It was.

541
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Speaker 1: Such a lazy Is that your take? You think he's

542
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Speaker 1: Tim Tebow.

543
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Speaker 3: In Tim Tebow's body?

544
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Speaker 1: Oh way better than well, you know what, Desmond Rider

545
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: could have used a little bit more muscle, you know what.

546
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: That's Rider was actually pretty accurate.

547
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Speaker 3: That's when I like, that's the different.

548
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, college since I get because of the body and

549
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,400
Speaker 2: his style and everything like that, but he was he's

550
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Speaker 2: more accurate than Tim Tebow.

551
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Speaker 1: Well, Jake, talk to me about Drew Aller because the

552
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Speaker 1: Steelers selected him. Technically he's the third quarterback on the

553
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Speaker 1: depth chart right now. Well, I don't know, you put

554
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Speaker 1: the name on him. We didn't have to talk about

555
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: going into the college football season, Drew Aller was hype

556
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: quite a bit right because of all the tools, right,

557
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: but unfortunately we really didn't see those tools put to

558
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: good use in the house. Really didn't build very well

559
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,679
Speaker 1: for Penn State. So talk to me about why you

560
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Speaker 1: think this is intriguing more of a long term look here,

561
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: what could possibly be fixed here for him where eventually

562
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Speaker 1: maybe he gets an opportunity with the Steelers.

563
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Speaker 2: I mean, you turn on his film and if you

564
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: pick the right play, you're like, oh my god, there's

565
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 2: some drank may there. You picked the wrong play, and

566
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 2: oh my god, it's Tim Tebow. Like let's be real,

567
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 2: like it's that bad, it's that up and down. But

568
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Speaker 2: as you just said, if we were talking this time

569
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Speaker 2: last year and he did go into draft, people were

570
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Speaker 2: talking about it as a first rounder.

571
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Speaker 1: I didn't.

572
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Speaker 2: To be clear, I wasn't a news Meyer first rounder.

573
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Speaker 2: I wasn't an Aller first rounder last year. But the

574
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Speaker 2: makeup of the tools is there. He has everything you

575
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Speaker 2: could possibly want an NFL quarterback except for his brain,

576
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 2: Like what is he doing half the time. But if

577
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Speaker 2: we're talking about this, like deebro made the joke about

578
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Speaker 2: Carson Beck, Like we're assuming Aaron Rodgers as of today,

579
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Speaker 2: but even as so, let's just say Rogers comes back,

580
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,119
Speaker 2: it's one more they just know what he's doing. Two

581
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: more years and he has to get basked. Will Howard

582
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Speaker 2: and Mason Rudolph. All I'm saying, if you have Aler

583
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Speaker 2: sit for a year and actually have a coach sit

584
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Speaker 2: there and say like, this is how you play quarterback, Aler,

585
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Speaker 2: like this is what the right guy for that? Right,

586
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Speaker 2: And that's what I'm looking at here is like McCarthy.

587
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,640
Speaker 2: If there's there's very like probably five teams that you'd

588
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: be like, man, that's a like McVeigh. Obviously Shanahan like

589
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 2: actually you know Shanahan's actually been hit or miss But anyway,

590
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 2: point being is can get somebody, Yeah, you could get

591
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Speaker 2: somebody to play the position and get in his mind

592
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Speaker 2: to stop doing all that terrible stuff we saw.

593
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Speaker 3: He has all the makeups.

594
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Speaker 2: That like, if he was completing sixty five percent of

595
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Speaker 2: his passes, everybody'd be drooling because of his skill set.

596
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Speaker 2: So again, we could be talking two years from now.

597
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,480
Speaker 2: Hey remember that guy that the Steelers drafted that's not

598
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Speaker 2: even in the NFL anymore. But I'm just saying, if

599
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Speaker 2: I'm taking flyers over beck of Reklube Nick like, I

600
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Speaker 2: just I'll take the chance on him. But this is

601
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Speaker 2: we're talking about fourth round pick, maybe a third round

602
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Speaker 2: of super Flow. It's just a flyer of a flyer,

603
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 2: all right.

604
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Speaker 1: Talk to me about Jonah Coleman, a running back who

605
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Speaker 1: got selected by the Denver Broncos here. I know we

606
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Speaker 1: heard you JK. Dobbins back there. I know RJ. Harvey

607
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Speaker 1: is a guy you're a big fan of. But how

608
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Speaker 1: muddy is the situation and how do we wait this

609
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Speaker 1: one out?

610
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Speaker 5: Debro incredibly muddy and RJ Harvey. I mean, you know

611
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Speaker 5: I loved him going into last year. It is what

612
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Speaker 5: it is. Man.

613
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Speaker 4: He had a disappointing rookie season. Tackle breaking metrics weren't,

614
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 4: weren't great. After he got the full job, it was,

615
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Speaker 4: you know, not wonderful. A lot touchdowns really carry the

616
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Speaker 4: day for him in fantasy. Jonah Coleman could make noise

617
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 4: here very quickly. Like you look at his skill set,

618
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Speaker 4: three down skill set.

619
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Speaker 1: JK.

620
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Speaker 4: Dobbins brought back back on a two year deal. That

621
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Speaker 4: is a puffed up one year deal. If you look

622
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Speaker 4: at the contract language of that he is out of

623
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Speaker 4: here after this year. So Coleman literally could factor into

624
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Speaker 4: this backfield. And that this is assuming that JK. Dobbins

625
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Speaker 4: can stay healthy. We haven't even seen that even last year. Like,

626
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Speaker 4: so Coleman could factor into this backfield even this season,

627
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Speaker 4: if Dobbins can stay on the field, if R. J.

628
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 4: Harvey continues to tick off Sean Payton because of the

629
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Speaker 4: three down skill set that he has, like Coleman, dude,

630
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Speaker 4: there is some of the craziest pass pro reps littering

631
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Speaker 4: through his film. In two hundred and seventy eight Collegiate

632
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 4: pass Pro Snaps, he only allowed three sacks one in

633
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Speaker 4: his final three seasons. So outside of the you know,

634
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Speaker 4: the three down skill set which you can get on

635
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Speaker 4: early downs from Joonah Coleman, he could factor into the

636
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Speaker 4: backfield as early as this year now if everything stays

637
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Speaker 4: as it is and RJ. Harvey can take a step

638
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 4: and play better in year two versus year one. Does

639
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: that happen, No, but it's possible.

640
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Speaker 1: The next guy we're gonna talk about as a player, actually,

641
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Speaker 1: Dee Bro and I on the film room sessions on Twitch, which,

642
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Speaker 1: by the way, Twitch dot Tv slash Fantasy Pros. Go

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Speaker 1: check it out. Lots of cool stuff on there, got

644
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Speaker 1: baseball going every day, and of course we had a

645
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Speaker 1: bunch of really cool film sessions on there as well,

646
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Speaker 1: where Dee Bro and I were breaking down some of

647
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Speaker 1: the prospects. Nick Singleton was a guy that we were

648
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Speaker 1: kind of split on, but Jake I liked him. Hebro

649
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Speaker 1: had some more concerns than I did. Not a fan,

650
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Speaker 1: so it was more of a split backfield, so to speak.

651
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Speaker 1: But the interesting spot here is the fact that he's

652
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Speaker 1: landing in Tennessee, which is a backfield that clearly got

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Speaker 1: a new coach coming in, right, and then you've got

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Speaker 1: guys who might be on their way out in that backfield,

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Speaker 1: Like there was a chance where Singleton could get a

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Speaker 1: real look in twenty twenty seven as possibly the lead back.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to happen, but that pathway

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Speaker 1: is there when you start to look at the finances

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Speaker 1: of them and the running backs that they have already

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Speaker 1: on the roster.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the big thing. That's why I said

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Speaker 2: might and I made the joke is as the dog

663
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Speaker 2: starts snoring, so I'm going to throw a treat in.

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Speaker 2: It comes down to the fact they're both three agents,

665
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: Pollard and Spears. Spears has failed to He's flashed, but

666
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: he's failed to one stay on the field and do

667
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,719
Speaker 2: it consistently. And that's both in the production and staying healthy.

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Speaker 2: Tony Pollard is a good running back, is not stretched.

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Speaker 2: He's not a great one by any stretch of the imagination.

670
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Speaker 2: And what this thing was singletonis. I don't think he

671
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Speaker 2: is great either. Actually compared him to Teven and I

672
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Speaker 2: think he's a very one cut, slash type runner. But

673
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Speaker 2: if you look at what kind of Dables done, like

674
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Speaker 2: he does have the pass catcher, the pass catcher like Tracy,

675
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Speaker 2: he kind of forced his He was forced into using

676
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Speaker 2: Tracy more than he wanted to.

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Speaker 3: And I say that.

678
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Speaker 2: More than he wanted to because he kept trying to

679
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Speaker 2: go back to Devin Singletary. He actually was like Devin

680
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Speaker 2: Singletary on this team. Not not gonna be excited about

681
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: him either, But as the lead option and what Brian

682
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Speaker 2: Dable does with his offense, I could see somebody like

683
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Speaker 2: a Tevin Coleman, like a Singletary, like a Singleton work

684
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Speaker 2: in this offense.

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Speaker 3: He would be an RB two.

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Speaker 2: Let's make that clear, Like I'm not preaching that, like

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Speaker 2: if both of them are gone next year, you're looking

688
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Speaker 2: at RB one production no, but as an RB two

689
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Speaker 2: as that. Like heck, if one of them gets hurt

690
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Speaker 2: speared by the way, gets hurt again this year, that

691
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: you might find yourself picking off waiver Wires just because

692
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Speaker 2: he's the next man up already this year, I'd be

693
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Speaker 2: more intrigued for him. Like you said, twenty twenty seven

694
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Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking of when it comes to singleton.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to de bro deeper guy, who's the first

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Speaker 1: on your list? I know you've each got two that

721
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Speaker 1: you want to share. Who do you have?

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Speaker 4: K Tron Allen And this just goes to the wide

723
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: open nature of the Commander's backfield right now. Like Rashad White,

724
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Speaker 4: we've seen him replaced by other running backs as the

725
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Speaker 4: starter in multiple spots, same thing you could say for

726
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Speaker 4: Jerome Ford. They're both on one year deals, and what

727
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Speaker 4: do we get out of Bill? Is he going to

728
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Speaker 4: compete for the starting job? Is he going to be

729
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: just another depth piece for them? But Kateron Allen has

730
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Speaker 4: a lane here man, Like, I'm not the biggest fan

731
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Speaker 4: of his game, but I think you kind of know

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Speaker 4: what you're getting, like very like I could see why

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Speaker 4: the Commanders drafted him in the sense of he's kind

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Speaker 4: of like your dollar store version of Brian Robinson in

735
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Speaker 4: previous years, like early down grinder, he's if you need

736
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Speaker 4: three yards, he gets you three yards. If you need

737
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Speaker 4: four yards, he gets you three yards. So it is

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Speaker 4: what it is like. But there's a chance where he

739
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Speaker 4: does he is a volume trade Brian Robinson last year

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Speaker 4: they did.

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Speaker 2: They did, but that's because they had a little bit

742
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Speaker 2: higher I was going to say, more like Tyler al

743
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Speaker 2: Zier to me, like, I mean that's fair.

744
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 4: But again, like grinder type of back, it's a volume play,

745
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Speaker 4: it's touchdowns, and the Commanders seemed to love this type

746
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Speaker 4: of archetype. So if we walked into week one or

747
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 4: coming out of camp and k Tron Allen is going

748
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Speaker 4: to be their starter.

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to be shocked.

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Speaker 1: I won't be shocked either. And I just want to

751
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Speaker 1: remind everybody too, as we talk about this, whenever you

752
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: have a rushing quarterback like you have Jade Daniels, it's

753
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Speaker 1: always going to hurt some of these running backs too

754
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Speaker 1: that they're in the same team. So just keep that

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Speaker 1: in mind, all right, Jake, give me a name that's

756
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 1: more of a deep stash for.

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Speaker 2: You well, and I say deep, and that's our Also

758
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: part of the reason I put him here is because

759
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:26,720
Speaker 2: everybody looks at the team and they're.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh my god, I gotta draft Keen Black, Oh

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00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: my god. Of course yes.

762
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Speaker 2: Could he get past everybody and be the next man

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Speaker 2: up behind Christian mccaffy. And then if Christian McCaffrey gets hurt,

764
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: then everybody's going to be like running to the waiver

765
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Speaker 2: wire because it's fill in the blank running back behind

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Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. We want him because we know what Shanahan does.

767
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Speaker 2: Shanahan can make me a productive running back in the

768
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Speaker 2: fact that I wouldn't die not actually get yards.

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Speaker 5: So that's really what it.

770
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Comes down to, is that we know Shanahan does well

771
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Speaker 2: for running backs. He makes good great and he makes

772
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Speaker 2: great exceptional. And I know Christian McCaffrey's on a tier

773
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Speaker 2: of his own. But that's why I excited for Kaitlyn Black.

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00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: But I say more for next year, Like, we still

775
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: have Girndo, we still have other running backs in the mix.

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Speaker 5: Could he get in there? Could he be the next

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Speaker 5: one up?

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00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 2: But I think the problem is is people see forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers and they're gonna draft Black thinking like, oh

781
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 2: my god, I have Like right now, if people were

782
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Speaker 2: drafting today, after the excitement that we're seeing from the draft,

783
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Speaker 2: and we were doing our yearly not even dynasty or

784
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 2: yearly fantasy draft right now, he'd probably go in the

785
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Speaker 2: tenth round because people are like, oh, back up running

786
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: back behind Christian McCaffrey. And that's why I want to

787
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Speaker 2: kind of pump the brakes. Yes, I like the landing spot,

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Speaker 2: but let's not go crazy because we've done this with

789
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Speaker 2: other backups behind Christian McCaffrey and we picked the wrong guy.

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Speaker 3: Like, let's be clear, yes.

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Speaker 5: That, can I throw some more water?

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00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead, sure, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Can I just give you the list of third round

794
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 4: or later running backs drafted by the forty nine ers

795
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Speaker 4: during the Kyle Shanahan error since twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go. Can you give me some of

797
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: the names on that list. I can't wait to hear James.

798
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 4: Joe Williams, Elijah Mitchell, Trey Sermon, R Davis Price. It

799
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Speaker 4: is a garndo and Jordan James not.

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Speaker 1: Exactly mean, was definitely that guy that everybody overdrafted. And

801
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: I remember and look, I'll I'll take the heat. I

802
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: went down one of those past ones not named Debro.

803
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Speaker 1: You were the tray Sermon.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the thing is disappointed so much because like there

805
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: was such an excitement for him, and he disappointed so

806
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: much that people were like.

807
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Speaker 3: Oh, Terry and David David Price, Like what are we doing?

808
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 2: Like we're just so disappointed about Sermon that we're like

809
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: got excited about Davis Price.

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Speaker 1: See you're never too old to learn kids on the program.

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Speaker 1: So we do all of us here. All right, we've

812
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Speaker 1: got one more name here, uh, for each of the

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Speaker 1: guys Debro, give.

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Speaker 4: Me that name, Seth McGowan. I think he's gonna be

815
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Speaker 4: the automatic carbat two for the colts.

816
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Speaker 1: Uh.

817
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Speaker 4: DJ Giddons basically had did nothing and I like DJ

818
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Speaker 4: Giddens as a prospect, but he did nothing in his

819
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Speaker 4: rookie season. He saw uninspiring. Veterans hop him as the

820
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Speaker 4: cuffed uh in Indie. I think McGowan could easily do

821
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Speaker 4: that this year, and it's not like Jonathan Taylor has

822
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Speaker 4: been the picture of health over the last few years.

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Speaker 1: Boys, it's a good point. Can't can't argue with that.

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Speaker 1: Jake one more guides deeper stash takes a little bit

825
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Speaker 1: longer for maybe him to pop off. It could be

826
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Speaker 1: like a lottery ticket kind of dude.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I completely agree with Debro. I had a lot

828
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Speaker 2: of Dj Gibsons's like my final pick because it was

829
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Speaker 2: like the picture of health.

830
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Speaker 3: Like you said, with Jonathan Taylors just I.

831
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Speaker 2: Figured it was the easiest path to back up job

832
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Speaker 2: and failed. But you know, this one's interesting. Similar to

833
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: the Titans. Guess what, Jordan Mason Aaron Jones both free

834
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 2: agents next year and I'm not going like Devin Claiborne,

835
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Speaker 2: you gotta get him because I actually think to go

836
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Speaker 2: back to a former Colts I think Claiborne is a

837
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Speaker 2: lot like Nim Hines and the fact that he's a

838
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Speaker 2: one A or A one B. He's going to be

839
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Speaker 2: sharing the backfield with somebody else. If it's the pass

840
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: catching side of things. Obviously we've seen the excitement for that.

841
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 2: And if he's getting fifty five percent of the work

842
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Speaker 2: as the lead pass catcher option, but he's still going

843
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 2: to be given away some goal line touches. He's going

844
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: to give away the short yardage because that's just who

845
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: he is. But similar to these other running backs we've seen,

846
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Speaker 2: like I'll go back to Tyrone, Tracyrone, Tracy leading the

847
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: Giants was in RB two every single week. Playbourne next

848
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Speaker 2: year for the Vikings, if he's out there and they're

849
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Speaker 2: gonna bring somebody else, and whether they resigned Jordan Mason,

850
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 2: but whatever it might be is they're gonna bring somebody

851
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Speaker 2: to be alongside of him. But he could have RB

852
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Speaker 2: two value in half a full point PPR. Giving their

853
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Speaker 2: free agent situation in the backfield, Well.

854
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Speaker 1: There you have it. Everybody, that's a look at the

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Speaker 1: impact guys for twenty twenty six, the guys that could

856
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Speaker 1: see some upside in twenty twenty seven, and some other

857
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Speaker 1: guys where maybe it's not a clear path, but there

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