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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dunn Zaren Burnett. I've got a question for you,

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Speaker 2: my friend.

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Speaker 3: I bet you do. I bet you don't.

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Speaker 2: I look like I have a question for you.

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Speaker 3: Look curious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. My question is simple, straightforward, right to the point.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: I do know what's ridiculous. You ever had buzzballs?

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Speaker 2: I've seen I've never ever cracked one, open, tasted one,

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Speaker 2: no idea. They've never done anything for me, aroun. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I need to have a buzzball night for those who.

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Speaker 3: Have no idea what we're talking about. Buzzballs. It's a

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Speaker 3: round shape. Beverage comes in like it looks like a

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Speaker 3: little hand grenade, and so you get a case of buzzball,

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Speaker 3: a case of the buzzballs.

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Speaker 2: I think malt liquor like a lot of.

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Speaker 3: The So yeah, I've been trying to find out exactly

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Speaker 3: what it is, and I think it is sort of

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Speaker 3: a malt liquor, like a wine cooler ish type thing.

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Speaker 3: They have a bunch of different flavors, lime rita you

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Speaker 3: know shirt for chili, mango, berry, cherry, limeade, Lota colata.

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Speaker 3: It's that kind of this party.

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Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, cocktails, fun fruity cocktails.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. They have a new flavor coming out called pink

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Speaker 3: Lemon Squeeze. Well it came out pink Lemon Squeeze.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: They describe it as loud, proud, and packed with the

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Speaker 3: playful vibe only buzzballs can bring.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, So there's this woman that we need to

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Speaker 3: blame for everything. Her name is Sarah Saunders and she

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Speaker 3: is the chief marketing officer at Sasarak company that owns

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Speaker 3: a buzzball. Oh yeah, as well as fireball like a

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Speaker 3: bunch of other ball. Yeah, it's that whole vibe, right,

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Speaker 3: So she's always like always thinking like how am I

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Speaker 3: going to market this vibe? We're so vibed out? And

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Speaker 3: they use vibe a lot in what they do. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they want to have like shareable DNA and go viral

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Speaker 3: and they play to their strengths because they're ready to

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Speaker 3: drink product and you're consuming about a higher frequency. So

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Speaker 3: they got to keep in front of mind.

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Speaker 2: Right. These meetings sound like hell to me.

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Speaker 3: And they're always looking for unexpected engagements erin and so

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Speaker 3: and a laughter litmus test. They say, like you know,

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Speaker 3: they want buzz on buzz and there's portfolio thinking. So anyway,

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Speaker 3: I'm just so glad I don't work in that kind

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Speaker 3: of industry anyway. So buzzballs, right, Like, how do we

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Speaker 3: get people in on this thing? What can we do

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Speaker 3: that Elizabeth's going to find out about like three weeks late.

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Speaker 3: That's the big question in all these boardrooms across the USA.

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Speaker 3: In order to celebrate Valentine's Day, Uh, they came up

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Speaker 3: with this thing. They were going to put online on

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Speaker 3: February third at ten a m. Eastern and it would

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Speaker 3: only be available for a week to bid on bidding

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Speaker 3: starting at two dollars and fourteen cents, and then it

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Speaker 3: would ship out by February thirteenth for Valentine's Day. So

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Speaker 3: it's like, if you really love someone, if you're really committed.

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Speaker 2: Set them free.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, returns run away with Buzz run Away meant to be.

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Speaker 3: Well, then you had bid on this thing, and what

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Speaker 3: is this thing that I keep blathering about?

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Speaker 2: I am so afraid.

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Speaker 3: A nine carrot lab grown diamond ring modeled to look

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Speaker 3: like the container of the brand's new pink Lemon Squeezy flavor,

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Speaker 3: featuring over three hundred handset diamonds totally nine carrots has

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Speaker 3: an estimated value of thirty five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 3: It is so ugly. It is so ugly. But you know,

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Speaker 3: if someone really loved me, they do that. They thirty

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Speaker 3: five brand and I'm late to the party. How much

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Speaker 3: did this thing go for?

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious because there's only one and.

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Speaker 3: The only one I found the listen. Yeah, and so.

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Speaker 2: Listing like someone's already trying to sell it.

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Speaker 3: I wish there were one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Bids, only one hundred.

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Speaker 3: And it's it went for eighty three hundred dollars. Wow,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know if you can sell it for parts.

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Speaker 2: Good jeweler can probably chip that diamond out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm not sure if, like are they will

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Speaker 3: eBay tell me who won? Or is that a secret?

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Speaker 3: I don't really do Abey, I say, you either do

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Speaker 3: it your own sister, hey, eBay, Yeah, oh no, look

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Speaker 3: it's letting me. It doesn't give me their their names,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, this person they got in right under the wire,

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Speaker 3: on them, but anyway, Uh, they won eighty three hundred

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Speaker 2: A thirty five thousand dollars diamond.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I feel like that thirty five k is

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Speaker 3: an exaggeration.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's dependent upon somebody buying it at that price,

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Speaker 2: which I don't think you have any guarantee.

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Speaker 3: And I say, they say nine carrots, but it's like

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Speaker 3: cumulative nine carrots. It's not one carrot stone.

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Speaker 2: And it's factory made a lot.

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Speaker 3: They're factory grown, and it's Paven City up in there.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, but it has a little pull tab. See

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Speaker 3: I'm zooming it in on my iPad to show you

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Speaker 3: there's a little pull tab on the top. That's true love.

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Speaker 3: Oh and it says buzzballs on the side. Will you

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Speaker 3: marry me? Oh my god, it's the it's very Paris Hilton. Anyway,

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Speaker 3: I've gone on too long with this. Uh, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: Next I'll give you that that is I have to.

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Speaker 2: It's the fact, this is what our economy has come

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Speaker 2: down to it equally.

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Speaker 3: And this just came to us from every angle, from

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Speaker 3: tons of rude dudes.

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Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thank you guys. Well, I guess some ridiculous

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Speaker 2: for you. It doesn't involve diamonds or buzzball. Yeah, I'll

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Speaker 2: put it this way, if you scratch the surface of

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Speaker 2: even the most professional art crime, you will likely find

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Speaker 2: a bunch of amateurs doing their best impression of professionals.

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Speaker 2: Always This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 2: out rage azz capers hee and cons. It's always ninety

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Speaker 2: nine percent murder free and one hundred percent ridiculous. Ridiculous, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: we cover a lot of our crimes on here. You Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I love them have We've been impressed by some of

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Speaker 2: their tactics, their methods. Maybe not for their professionalism, but

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Speaker 2: at least they're bravado.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and their taste totally.

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Speaker 2: Like do you remember the episode I did the viper

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Speaker 2: the General in the Rows of Dugdale, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Where the lady was supporting the IRA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it's the one about the Irish Mannor home

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Speaker 2: that once below belong to Lord Alfred and Lady Clementine

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Speaker 2: and Maddy. Clementine was one of the Midford sisters who

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Speaker 2: were a cold trip onto themselves and then being a

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Speaker 2: lord and a lady. Of course they had this impressive

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Speaker 2: art collection anyway at their home kept getting robbed first

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Speaker 2: by Rose Dugdale on behalf of the IRA. As you

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Speaker 2: pointed out. And then later Lord Alfred and Lady Clementine

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Speaker 2: they get robbed by an Irish hard man criminal, this

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Speaker 2: guy Martin Cahill and his gang. Yeah, when he breaks in,

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Speaker 2: he drives his Mitsubishi Paharo truck right up to the

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Speaker 2: stairs and smashes through the French doors. Yeah, the bust

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Speaker 2: that's what you call bravado.

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Speaker 3: Dave made me feel like I was there.

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Speaker 2: Such a great picture. But that kind of bravado is

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Speaker 2: not exactly the most sophisticated plan. We're going to take

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Speaker 3: French doors to that.

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Speaker 2: No, Now, if you speak with someone whose job it

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Speaker 2: is to track down and arrest these sorts of art thieves,

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Speaker 2: they will tell you most of the time, even when

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Speaker 2: it's an impressive job, the thieves are just amateurs doing

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Speaker 2: their best impression of professional thieves, like they've seen in

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Speaker 2: the movies we often cover, like, we often have this

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Speaker 2: idea that there are professional art thieves out there who

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Speaker 2: work for international criminals doing their bidding, pulling off well

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Speaker 2: conceived art heist. Yes, but it's not really accurate. Well,

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Speaker 2: it's not even true when there are criminals doing the

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Speaker 2: bidding of international criminals, which is the story I want

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Speaker 2: to tell you today.

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Speaker 3: Huh.

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Speaker 2: Now, Elizabeth, have you ever seen the James Bond movie

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Speaker 2: Doctor No?

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Speaker 4: Yes, okay, doctor, yes, I have.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember how the super villain had a famous

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: So back in nineteen sixty one, Agoya painting was stolen

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Speaker 2: from the National Gallery in the UK, and in order

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Speaker 2: to make their villain, Doctor No appear more modern and

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Speaker 2: super cultured as this evil genius, that same stolen masterpiece

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Speaker 2: was shown hanging in his lair. Yeah right, But in

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Speaker 2: real life, are there criminals who actually steal great masterpieces

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Speaker 2: for well healed international criminals.

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Speaker 4: Yes, to answer that question, I just answered it.

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Speaker 2: Oh then done deal. I went through way too much

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Speaker 2: time and energy because I once tracked down this guy,

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Speaker 2: and I wrote a whole article for mel magazine about

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Speaker 2: this exact question, and I spoke with an expert, Robert Whitman, Okay,

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Speaker 2: former head of the FBI's Art Crimes Division. Yes, thirty

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Speaker 2: Now, after his time at the FBI was over, he

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Speaker 2: wrote a book about his career priceless how I went

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when I asked Robert Whitman about this idea of

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Speaker 2: and I quote the whole Bond villain thing from Doctor No,

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Speaker 2: that was the beginning of this idea, that there's some

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Speaker 2: very rich, nefarious collector one who's sitting there lovingly looking

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Speaker 2: at his stolen Picasso in the basement. After thirty years

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Speaker 2: of doing these investigations, I've never run into that.

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Speaker 3: So well, Pete, I think you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: Now. When I pressed him about the popular notion of

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Speaker 2: Whitman told me, yeah, no, that's Hollywood.

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Speaker 3: So well, Jim, I think you're wrong.

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Speaker 2: So Whitman he elaborated on that thought because it wasn't

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Speaker 2: in Europe and he said, and I quote, we had

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Speaker 2: a case involving a group of individuals that walked into

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Speaker 2: the Swedish National Museum at five o'clock two days before Christmas.

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Speaker 2: They had machine guns. They made everybody lie down on

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Speaker 2: to stop the police from responding. They made their getaway

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Speaker 2: with a high speed boat that they'd parked in the

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Speaker 2: harbor next to the museum. So well thought out robberies

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Speaker 2: do still happen. There are still real criminal enterprises run

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Speaker 2: by professional criminals who execute complex crimes for a living.

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Speaker 2: So Bob's kind of having it both ways.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, ken Is, I'm just say first name of

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Speaker 2: So Elizabeth, if you don't mind me calling you that,

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Speaker 2: do you remember what I set up top about? How

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Speaker 2: if you quote scratch the surface of even the most

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Speaker 2: professional art crime, you will likely find a bunch of

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Speaker 4: Have you said that it was a couple of minutes?

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Speaker 2: Now it turns out that's true even for the most

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Speaker 2: well thought out and respected museum robberies, which brings us

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Speaker 2: today's crime, the art heist of the National Museum in Stockholm, Sweden.

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Speaker 2: So the year was two thousand. It was Friday, December

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Speaker 2: It was a magical day, Elizabeth, December twenty second, two thousand.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, I was there. It was so cold.

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Speaker 2: Keep that thought in mind. Over in Stockholm, Sweden, things

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Speaker 3: Is it around magical?

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Speaker 2: Well, not this way. At about five minutes before five pm,

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Speaker 3: Is just insensitive. I take it all back, And just.

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Speaker 2: Like that first car, the second cars also turned into

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Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, Sarah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well. Meanwhile, over at the National Museum of Stockholm, two

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Speaker 2: Since it's just before closing time at the museum, the

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Speaker 2: thus they've never invested in security measures. There are no

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Speaker 3: Yes, I mean, I've never been robbed, but I have

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Speaker 6: Wait already, I want you to picture it.

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Speaker 2: It's the Friday before Christmas and you're in Stockholm alone,

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Speaker 2: Just before closing time, you're ushered out by a handsome

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Speaker 2: You hear ominous footsteps approaching. When you look up, you

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Speaker 2: The third man keeps his submachine gun trained on the guards.

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Speaker 2: You can hear the two men's boots as they slap

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Speaker 2: they got what they'd come for. In their arms, they

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Speaker 2: hold three framed masterpieces. There are small artworks, but they're

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Speaker 2: also worth millions upon millions of dollars, about thirty million

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Speaker 2: The museum heistsmen don't stand on ceremony. They run out

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Speaker 2: So much for that, Oh, well, guess only, but Donna

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Speaker 2: there you go, Elizabeth, Yes, you just witnessed the robbery

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you're gonna say they took a dump

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Speaker 2: This is just further evidence that this was a well

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Speaker 2: so the police quickly canvass the museum. They discover that

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Speaker 2: thieves got away with three masterpieces in total. The stolen

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Speaker 2: artworks are two paintings by Renoir, one called Conversation with

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Speaker 2: painting is by Rembrandt, and it's a self portrait, very

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Speaker 2: famous selfie. Each masterpiece of value is estimated it somewhere

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Speaker 2: expensive by far. There's more bad news. None of these

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Speaker 2: never had a similar robbery with weapons. This never happened

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Speaker 2: we'll contact the museum to ransom back the paintings.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: There's one problem with this plan though, as Torston Gonersen

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Speaker 3: So, guys, what kind of crackerjack operation is this?

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Speaker 2: I had no ideas so like like they run thin

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Speaker 2: I did give him the benefit of that. Or maybe

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going through his mind. But when

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Speaker 2: They could escape quite easily. There's no ice on the

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Speaker 2: And he also adds that quote it's not going to

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Speaker 2: so it must have been someone who just wanted the

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Speaker 2: I mean that's but he's the you know, not museum expert,

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Speaker 2: So at this point, to make matters worse, the Stockholm

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Speaker 2: it and there's not a clue to be found for now, Elizabeth,

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Speaker 2: Let's take a little break, Okay, listen to some ads,

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Speaker 2: cool our heels, and when we're back, we're going to

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Speaker 3: Nice.

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Speaker 2: We're back, Elizabeth, We're okay. So we started out with

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Speaker 2: it if it was ridiculous, So you're ready for things

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Speaker 4: I really am, okay.

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Speaker 2: So the first domino to fall is an unexpected eyewitness

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Speaker 2: used it for their motor boat escape. Yeah, he sees

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Speaker 2: out of their motor boat and make it for their getaway.

438
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: Presumably they had like a car hidden nearby, maybe in

439
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 2: the woods. He didn't see the getaway car, but he

440
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,480
Speaker 2: did get a good look at the motor boat. So

441
00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 2: this old Swedish man he just gets back in his boat,

442
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 2: turns around and goes back to central Stockholm, and he

443
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 2: tells the investigating police what he saw. Where the motor

444
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 2: boat that the thieves used is located. The police are

445
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: like real and like let's go, and they're quick to act.

446
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 2: Within two hours of the Museum Heights, the police find

447
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 2: the getaway boat. No, they're still on the banks of

448
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 2: the lake, right where they left it. The boat is

449
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 2: searched for clues. They take it back to the lab.

450
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 2: They look for any eva it's anything to help them

451
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 2: in their manhunt, but they find no fingerprints, no DNA evidence.

452
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,120
Speaker 2: They have no actionable leads from this boat. They're like, well,

453
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: that was a nice effort the old man. So out

454
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 2: of desperation, the police turned to the public for help.

455
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: They release a photo of the motor boat in local newspapers.

456
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: Did anyone know this boat? And when you know what, Elizabeth,

457
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: the former owner of the motor boat, seized the photos

458
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: in the newspaper. He phones the police. Oh that's my boat,

459
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 2: so he asked, like, how can I help? The police

460
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 2: ask was the boat stolen? He was like, no, I

461
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: recently sold it, and they're like okay, and he's In fact,

462
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 2: the buyers were these three suspicious looking men. After they

463
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,919
Speaker 2: purchased the boat from him. The men asked if they

464
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: could borrow his boat trailer to transport the boat, because

465
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 2: they like, buy the boat it's on a trailer. They're like, oh,

466
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: we should have run a trailer it, so, you know,

467
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,679
Speaker 2: being like Swedish. The boat owners like, yeah, sure, but

468
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,199
Speaker 2: I'll need some kind of insurance so that you'll return it.

469
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: So he asked for their phone number.

470
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 4: Wait, that's the interesting your kids.

471
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: No collateral, No, like leave your wallet, your your license,

472
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 2: your phone number, your phone numbers I can call you.

473
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: So the police ask do you still have the phone number?

474
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 2: The former boat owners like, oh, sure, I wrote it

475
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,880
Speaker 2: down on the back of the receipt for the purchase.

476
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 2: So he digs around, he finds a number and he's like,

477
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: here you o police. Yeah, now, Elizabeth, do you think

478
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 2: that there was a fake phone number they used? Maybe

479
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: like a burner phone.

480
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 3: They've been pretty good at covering their tracks thus far,

481
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 3: but I'm starting to wonder with the little devilish smurn

482
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,120
Speaker 3: on it was.

483
00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 2: A real working number that belonged to one of the

484
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,200
Speaker 2: art thieves.

485
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 3: Like a lambline.

486
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 2: No, I got a cell phone. Now the police, they

487
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: finally have an actionable lead. So the Stockholmed police they

488
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 2: investigate the phone. They check for any recent calls to

489
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 2: or from the phone number. Right, the phone number reveals

490
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 2: this network of petty thieves that they already know about.

491
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 2: They're like, wait a minute, this guy knows that guy.

492
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 2: This guy. So now these guys are, like I said,

493
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: petty thieves. They mostly steal cars. They break into truck

494
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 2: they like, you know, like let's fall off the back

495
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 2: of a truck. That's right, But they are not sophisticated.

496
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 2: Our thieves. From this list of people, two men are

497
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,120
Speaker 2: identified as central to it, a forty two year old

498
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: Russian national named Alexander Petrov and a thirty one year

499
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 2: old Swedish national name Stefan Nordstrom.

500
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,440
Speaker 3: Oh, heir to the Nords from.

501
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 2: Fortune probably, so there's one big problem with the police investigation.

502
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: Both of these men are locked up in prison at

503
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 2: the time of the robbery.

504
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 3: I don't think they could do it so much for

505
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: their lead, right, Saren. I don't think they could do

506
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: it except when you really think about it, Zaren. I

507
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: don't think they could do it.

508
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: Except for we don't have enough facts because as Americans,

509
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: there's something in Sweden that would sound insane to most Americans. Yeah,

510
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: the men are deemed low risk prisoners, so they're allowed

511
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 2: to leave the prison for weekends.

512
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: The pass Yeah, yeah, a.

513
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,200
Speaker 2: Couple of But I just I still don't anticipate it.

514
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 2: I thought, oh, they were locked up, couldn't be them.

515
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 3: Just simply they're like, you have to stay you'reduring the

516
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: week and all the good TVs on. These are very

517
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 3: uncomfortable bed.

518
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 2: You can't walk your kids to school. So this is

519
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: exactly what happens that Friday, the men were out of

520
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: the prison, and so.

521
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: They're on furlough.

522
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 3: They're on weekend furlough, and they're like, you know what, let's.

523
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: Go in fact, let's be the masterminds for it.

524
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 3: So the Russian spent one weekend buying a boat.

525
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: Seriously exactly, Well, next weekend we'll get some gloves. And

526
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: so the Russian national, Alexander Petrov, he ends up returning

527
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 2: to prison on Monday after they pull the job.

528
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: Well that's what you do, yeah.

529
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: The Swedish national stuff on. Nordstrom does not return. So

530
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 2: when he fails to return to prison, the prison authorities

531
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 2: and the Stockholm police they search hisself. Well, he's given

532
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 2: us the right to do this, and what do they defined? Elizabeth?

533
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: They discover a trove of clues. Finally, man, he's got

534
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 2: newspaper clippings he's been collecting of previous successful and unsuccessful heights.

535
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: Does you have a notebook that says if I did

536
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: it on the front.

537
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: No, But at this point now they have proof that

538
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,399
Speaker 2: Stephan Nordstrom is most likely involved. So meanwhile, the art

539
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,920
Speaker 2: Heis crew discovers something of their own. No one wants

540
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: to buy the stolen masterpiece. They can't seem to move

541
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: this thing. And maybe they had an original buyer, now

542
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 2: the person backed out. I don't know. But they can't

543
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,520
Speaker 2: collect any money for the three stolen paintings, so since

544
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: the black market won't buy them, the thieves try to

545
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 2: arrange a backup plan to scare up a buyer.

546
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

547
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 2: Six days after the heist, on December twenty eighth, the

548
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 2: Russian national Alexander Petrov's lawyer walks into a Stockholm police

549
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 2: station and tells it you can I talk to a detective,

550
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: and he tells the detectives he represents the men who

551
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 2: stole the artwork and he'd like to broker a deal man.

552
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: He hands over a ransom note for evidence that his

553
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 2: clients have the stolen masterpieces. He also shows the police

554
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: a set of polaroid photos of the artwork with a

555
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: newspaper from that same day to prove if they have it.

556
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: The police they take the ransom note, they listen to

557
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 2: what he says, they check the polaroids and they tell

558
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,680
Speaker 2: the lawyer we'll be in touch now, Elizabeth. The police

559
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: are doing something that we in the storytelling business call lying.

560
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they have.

561
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 2: No real plans to make a deal with the thief.

562
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 2: He still plan to catch them, So now they have

563
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 2: the lawyer's identity, so the police they put a surveillance

564
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: team on his trail to follow out and they plan

565
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 2: to wait for him to meet with his clients, which

566
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: they assume he will do because the clients are going

567
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: to want the news and then they'll just bust them all,

568
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: which is exactly what happens. Within days, the lawyer meets

569
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: up with his client, Alexander Petrov, the Russian national. I

570
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: guess the prison let him out again for another furlough. Sure, anyway,

571
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 2: it's not just him. The lawyer also meets up with

572
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: Stefan Nordstrom, so they got the three of them together.

573
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 3: Perfect. It's Saturday.

574
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: So when the police identify their purpse, they rush in,

575
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: they arrest everyone. It helps that Nordstrom has on him

576
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: a bag of polaroid pictures of the stolen.

577
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 4: Artwork, like new ones.

578
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 2: Here's like I got a new paper, you know, I

579
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 2: want people to know we still have them. I updated

580
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,080
Speaker 2: the newspaper.

581
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: You know, with some cute outfits on it.

582
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 2: Exactly got him in a wood paneled motel, so naturally,

583
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: his DNA is all over these pictures. So this evidence

584
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: is enough for the police to ask for a warrant

585
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: to raid a known hideout as part of this men's

586
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: network of small time.

587
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 3: Crooks in the woods. Like a hideout.

588
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: No, no, like in like a seller, like a basement hideout.

589
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: So the police they bust down the door of the cellar,

590
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: they raid the basement hideout. Bad news is no stolen artwork.

591
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: Good news is they find like a day planner that

592
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 2: details the plans for the museum heist. And the best

593
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: news is in the plans for the museum heist, it

594
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: also includes a list of all of the co conspirators

595
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: by their real name, not by the street names, not

596
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: the code name, They're real names. So now armed with

597
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: this shopping list of.

598
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: Criminals, I'm just you have a friendly yell like a

599
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: day runner, which is just taking me back.

600
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

601
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 3: Right, so when that was like the important person thing,

602
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 3: and then you list the real.

603
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 2: Names, yes, it's amazing.

604
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: Wow, social security double I don't know, they don't have

605
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: that there, but the equivalent.

606
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

607
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 3: So the DLB.

608
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: Stockholm PD they rush out, they arrest everyone on their

609
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 2: shopping list of criminals. They get Alexander Petrov, Stefan Nordstrom,

610
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: the lawyer, and ten other men. So they get thirteen

611
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: people in total.

612
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 5: Wow.

613
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: So May twenty third, twenty one, the thirteen men are

614
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 2: all formally charged is either perpetrators or accessories to the artist.

615
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: So the prosecutor for their case tells local news, we

616
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 2: consider all of them as perpetrators of the crime. It

617
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 2: all hangs together. It is one and the same deed.

618
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 2: So basically it's like the Swedish version of a Rico case. Yeah, yeah, right,

619
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: you're guilty of participation in the conspiracy. So all of

620
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 2: the co conspirators now they insist, of course I'm innocent.

621
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 3: Sure.

622
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 2: The judge here's the case does not agree. The eight

623
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: of the thirteen men are imprisoned. Stefan Nordstrom catches a

624
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: six and a half year sentence, Alexander Petrov receives an

625
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: eight year sentence. Three other men catch prison sentences between

626
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: two and four years, and there's three others who receive

627
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: four years each for receiving stolen goods. Okay, five of

628
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: the men are acquitted, which includes Petrov's lawyer, who was

629
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: facing charges of the accessory to attempted extortion, which is bad

630
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: for a lawyer, but I guess you like you hired

631
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 2: a good lawyer because he gets off. The bad news

632
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: for the police is, despite all of the arrests, the

633
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,959
Speaker 2: charges and then actual convictions, none of the men talks

634
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: and none of them know where the stolen masterpieces are now. Yeah,

635
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: so they get nothing out of it. They just get

636
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: these people. So they're making headlines. People were like, yeah,

637
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: but what about the paintings?

638
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 3: Right right?

639
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: So the police they pulled this major bus, but get

640
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: no new leads to find the missing artwork. They're back

641
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 2: to square one.

642
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

643
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 2: So then fake with the capital Left steps in to

644
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 2: shake things up because that same spring, the Stockholm police

645
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 2: they raid a house they've been watching as part of

646
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: a drug case. Okay, they round up the suspects, they

647
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: go into search the house for evidence of the drug

648
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: dealing and collect it. And they're doing all the processing,

649
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 2: you know, and what do they find one of the

650
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 2: stolen paintings.

651
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 3: At least one.

652
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 2: It's Renoire's conversation with a gardener's just sitting in a

653
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: corner right gathering dusts.

654
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: You can see that these guys didn't like they oh,

655
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: we couldn't get it on, move it on the black market.

656
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 3: Well you didn't know big dog like.

657
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: They like traded it for drugs.

658
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and if that's the level that you're working at,

659
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 3: they're not working at levels of like international criminals who

660
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: will buy big pieces, you know, and use it for

661
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,680
Speaker 3: larger leverage on things.

662
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 2: Well hold that thought. Oh okay, because remember they were

663
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 2: desperate at first, but as time goes, I think they

664
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: start reaching out to more and more powerful players.

665
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

666
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, So at this point, Kurt Hanson from the Stockholm

667
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 2: PD he has to confest to news reporters we weren't

668
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 2: looking for the painting, so it was a bonus when

669
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 2: we found its. Like they're like trying to spread good news.

670
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: So the Swedish National Museum sends over someone to authenticate

671
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 2: the painting, because he had to also ensure that it's

672
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: not a convincing fake, like somebody's to forged it selling

673
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: it as one of the stolen paintings. They confirm it's

674
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: the real deal. Boom, one stolen painting down, two to go.

675
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to check that off in my day planning.

676
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 2: There you go. This leaves the self portrait of Rembrandt

677
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: and Renoirs painting the young Parisian. Yeah to recover now,

678
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 2: the museum's director, Torsten Goonerson. He tells the newspaper reporters

679
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: that he remains optimistic that the remaining two paintings will

680
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: be located, but only time will tell. So now that

681
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: we've located one of the three stolen paintings purely by luck, sure,

682
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: let's take another break, Elizabeth, listen to some more ads,

683
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: and after these messages, this case takes a truly strange

684
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: turn as police search high and low for the other

685
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: two stolen masterpiece And we're back, Elizabeth. Hello, You ready

686
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 2: for things to get even more ridiculous? Yeah?

687
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: Always good, good.

688
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 2: Okay, let's jump across the Atlantic and pick this story

689
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 2: back up two of the stolen masterpieces from the Stockholm

690
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: National Museum. They remain missing. The police have no leads.

691
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 2: The suspects have been arrested sentence for their role in

692
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: the heist. They aren't talking. But then there was that

693
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: stroke of luck. And then there's a second stroke of luck. Okay,

694
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: because out in Los Angeles, the FBI is running surveillance

695
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 2: out a bunch of Bulgarian drug dealers. As you do, well,

696
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 2: the agents are listening, you know. One of the Bulgarians

697
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: says something about how they have this masterpiece painting that

698
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: they're looking to sell. It's renoirs the young Parisians stop.

699
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 2: This catches the ear of one of the agents, and

700
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 2: someone was like, isn't that one of the paintings of

701
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: a stolen from that museum in Stockholm?

702
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 4: Good memory.

703
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: So now the FBI focuses their surveillance on the leader

704
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 2: of this band of Bulgarian drug dealers in Los Angeles.

705
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: His name is Boris Costaff. No longer just listening in.

706
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: They order round the clock surveillance of agents on Costuff.

707
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: One day, when he's like coming out of his home,

708
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: cost Off walks out with a suspiciously sized package. It

709
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 2: looks to be the right size to hold one of

710
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: the missing stolen paintings. Costaff loads the package into his

711
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 2: car and heads out for his day. The FBI get

712
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: behind him. They woop, poop, swoop in. They pull over

713
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: cost Off while he's driving. They ask about the package

714
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 2: in his car's trunk. Then he opens the trunk, They

715
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 2: grab it. They open the package and it is not

716
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 2: a stolen painting. Elizabeth, Oh no, you want to guess

717
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 2: what it is?

718
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: A pizza?

719
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: You never will. It's his dry cleaning his dry cleaning.

720
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 2: Oh like shirts, dirty laundry. Yeah, exactly so. Certain though

721
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: he must know something about where the stolen painting is.

722
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 2: They haul them in for questioning. So the FBI agents

723
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: they start sweating cost Off, they grill them, they threaten

724
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: them at prison time. They inform them that he could

725
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: be looking at decades behind bars. Now Costaff is not

726
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: a young man. He's the leader of this Bulgarian like

727
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 2: drug dealing community. Decades behind bars means he would likely

728
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: spend the rest of his life in prison. So properly

729
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 2: frightened now, Kostoff tells the FBI he does know where

730
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: the renoir the young Parisian painting is. In fact, he

731
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 2: tells them if they'll make a deal, he'll hand over

732
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: the painting since it was smuggled through lax and is

733
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: currently in LA It's like, I can take you to it.

734
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 4: Wow.

735
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: The Bulgarian drug dealers thought they could sell it to

736
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 2: one of the rich fat cats in Hollywood. They're like,

737
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: they buy anything, these idiots, that's true, but they had

738
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 2: no luck. They couldn't find one of these so.

739
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: Called idiots who we're hip enough.

740
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a really pretty paintings. This young girl

741
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: and everything.

742
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 3: At this point, like they're wanting like more modern stuff.

743
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,239
Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but also people just really don't want to

744
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 2: buy stolen painting.

745
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 3: Because you should have talked to Barbarstras.

746
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: The legal liability for it is kind of insane, true, right,

747
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: but why risk it all for a painting if you're

748
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 2: caught with it?

749
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: Very true?

750
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: You know you're you're doing the time time time in

751
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: federal prison where they don't let you out for a

752
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: weekend furlough. It's true. So at this point the FBI

753
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: is like, well, go on, we're listening. You know where

754
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: it is. The Bulgarian drug dealer cost Off is like,

755
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 2: I want the deal. So the FBI is like, well,

756
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: we need to show up good faith cost Off. So

757
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: Costof tells them, okay, well I'll tell you where the

758
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: painting the Young Parisian is located. The FBI they go

759
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: out and sure enough, they recover the painting. It's right

760
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 2: where he says it is. The Renoir masterpiece is wrapped

761
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,760
Speaker 2: up in a towel, hidden in a plastic shopping bag

762
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: in the basement. Oh man, very importantly, it's not damaged.

763
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 3: Oh good.

764
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. The FBI goes back to Costaff and they tell

765
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: him his information was solid, and you know, they want

766
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: to ensure he doesn't spend any the rest of his

767
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 2: life in prison because there's still the third painting out there.

768
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 2: So the Bulgarian drug dealer costs Up says, you know what,

769
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: there's more. I also know where the rembarant self portrait is.

770
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: If we make a deal, I will help you get

771
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: it back. FBI is like, you got a deal, start talking.

772
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: So satisfied, cost Off tells the FBI that the final

773
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 2: missing stolen masterpiece it isn't in la It isn't in

774
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 2: America at all, so it's still in Europe and they're like, okay,

775
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: So he's not exactly certain where it is, though. He

776
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: says he's certain he can help the FBI to find

777
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 2: it though, because he knows the man who has it,

778
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 2: and that man is his Son's willing to flip on

779
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 2: his son. That's how afraid he is of spending the

780
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: rest of his life in an American prison.

781
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 3: Wow.

782
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 2: Yes, So now at this point the FBI is like,

783
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: you salty, Doug, you got a deal, all right. So

784
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: it turns out the final missing stolen masterpiece is with

785
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: Kostov's son. This man named Alexander aka Sasha Lindgren and

786
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: a he's a Swedish national, and a few of his

787
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: criminal confederates. Chief among them is in a rocky fellow

788
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: named Baja Kudam and his four brothers. Huh So. Meanwhile,

789
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: at that exact same time, Baja Kudam and his brother

790
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 2: Deja Kutam are busy sweating Sasha Lingren to sell this

791
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: stolen painting. News is not broken about the young Parisian

792
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: being caught. They just are like, we need to move

793
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: this man. We can make that. Yeah, we've had this

794
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: for like four and a half years. We need to

795
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: do something with it. And then, like I said, they

796
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: don't know about Kostov getting busted, or that he's handed

797
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 2: over the Renoir masterpiece. The FBI. All that's kept out

798
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: of the press. The FBI does not announce that they've

799
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: secured this painting.

800
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 3: So did you think the Bulgarian had a romance with

801
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 3: a Swedish lady?

802
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: My guess, But I don't know. I mean, it could

803
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: just be that he thought it would be better to

804
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 2: raise his son in Sweden because his crimes easier. If

805
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 2: you get busted, you don't go to a prison.

806
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, you get the weekends off.

807
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: But he couldn't really sell drug there enough. We went

808
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: to La That's my guest.

809
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 3: I like that.

810
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 4: I like that narrative.

811
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 2: So at this point were four maybe four and a

812
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 2: half years since the original museum heightst They've been sitting

813
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: on this painting. It has not moved, can't find a buyer.

814
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: So other than being just passed around by some drug

815
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: dealers in career criminals, no one wants to buy the

816
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: stolen artworks. Meanwhile, the value of this stolen Rembrandt the

817
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 2: self portrait, by the way, has increased dramatically in this

818
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 2: four and a half years. The painting is now worth

819
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: an approximately thirty five million. It's more than tripled.

820
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 3: In price, and a lot of that is because it.

821
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like the Mona Lisa. We suddenly has

822
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: a lot more value because it was stolen. And at

823
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 2: this point, that is if it's unharmed. Keep in mind,

824
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: so what if.

825
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 3: They give Rembrandt the old Glasgow Smile take.

826
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: A knife til while they're drunk, yeah, getting high on

827
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: Rocky and so the sun disasha and is a Rocky

828
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: crime buddies, they don't really care that it's worth thirty

829
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: five million. They don't even really know if it's worth

830
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: thirty five million. Instead, they're going around asking for like

831
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 2: seven hundred of its value. So I won't make you

832
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 2: do that math, Elizabeth, but here's what it is. They're

833
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 2: willing to sell it for like two hundred and fifty

834
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: thousand dollars quarter a million dollars, Yes, thirty five million

835
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: dollar painting. They'll they'll take a cool quarter mill, right.

836
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 2: They just want to make something out of it, you know,

837
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 2: they want to get their beak sweat. Yes, The FBI

838
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 2: contacts the Stockholm police and the Danish cops in Copenhagen

839
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: and they let him know the good news that they

840
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: want to run a coordinated sting operation and recover this

841
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: final missing masterpiece. So the Stockholm detectives are super relieved

842
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: to hear that one of the missing masterpieces has already

843
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: been recovered. The renoir and the FBI has a line

844
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: on the third so they're like, oh, that's great to hear.

845
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: What do you want us to do? The FBI is like,

846
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 2: send it over our art crimes guy. He's gonna go

847
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: undercover as an underground authenticator for European crime family who's

848
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: interested in buying the rem brand. You need help them

849
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: with his plan. The sweets are like, okay, what is

850
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: your art crime agent's name? So, Elizabeth, remember up talk

851
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 2: when I was talking about Robert Whitman, the cat I

852
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,319
Speaker 2: interviewed by the our crime Right, he's the guy the

853
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: FBI sends over to go deep cover to recover this painting.

854
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: That would be so fun, right you get like imagine

855
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: picking out your outfit.

856
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: He goes, he gets the Rick Steves Sweden book. He's ready,

857
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: he's prepped.

858
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: And also he's supposed to be working like a Russian

859
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: crime family.

860
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 3: He gets the Rick Steves.

861
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: He doesn't have to do like, you know, like a

862
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 2: Russian anything. He's just like has to be somebody that

863
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: you know.

864
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: So he's like playing playing an American who works for all.

865
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 2: These exactly and to go to Sweden. He's like an

866
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: antiques road show judge that they hire for like the

867
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: Russian crime family.

868
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 3: Do you think he did a lot of wig play?

869
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 3: Do you think he I'd like to believe so s

870
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 3: caamped it up with some wigs. I should have asked

871
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: him facial wigs.

872
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: When I asked him about the recovery. He did tell

873
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 2: me this and I quote this LA drug dealer had

874
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,439
Speaker 2: access to one of the ren Wars. We were able

875
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 2: to recover that painting through a drug investigation in two

876
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 2: thousand and five. As a result of that recovery, we

877
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: were able to get that individual to flip for us.

878
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: He introduced us to the gang in Sweden. They still

879
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 2: had the ren brand It was the most valuable piece.

880
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 2: It's worth thirty five million dollars. We started an undercover

881
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,120
Speaker 2: operation in Copenhagen. I posed as an authenticator for the

882
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 2: Russian mob. So at this point two thousand and five,

883
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,880
Speaker 2: Old Bob Whitman flies over to Copenhagen posing as an

884
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 2: art authenticator for the Russian mafia, who are, according to Costoff,

885
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: looking to buy the Rembrandt. So Costoff tells his son,

886
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,719
Speaker 2: I got a buyer, and he sets up his son

887
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: so Kastafi. He sets it all up for the FBI,

888
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: the whole thing. He coordinates the deal to sell the

889
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 2: painting via his son Sasha and the worst.

890
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:27,959
Speaker 5: Yeah.

891
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 2: So even though Costaff vouches for them, it still takes

892
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 2: a few weeks to earn everyone's trust and to coordinate

893
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 2: this deal. But finally, after a few weeks past old

894
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 2: Bob Whitman gets the go ahead, he sets up in

895
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 2: person meeting with Costoff's son and his crime buddy's to

896
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: authenticate and to see if it's legit, and then if so,

897
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: he'll buy the rembrand Sure. So, as Whitman told MPR

898
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 2: in twenty eleven, quote, after about two weeks with the

899
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 2: thieves who were still in Stockholm, we negotiated the price

900
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: of the Rembrandt down to two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

901
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: We actually had two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in

902
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,359
Speaker 2: cash in the hotel room. We were bringing it back

903
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: and forth. We let them no, it was real right,

904
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,879
Speaker 2: because he's got like he's got some show money.

905
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 3: He's doing the whole like putting the brick up to

906
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 3: his ears.

907
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: We called that money over here. So the plan is

908
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 2: for the meeting to go down in a hotel room

909
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: in Copenhagen, and of course the FBI sets up mikes

910
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: and cameras hidden all throughout the hotel room to record

911
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,720
Speaker 2: this exchange. Danish law enforcement they send over a swat

912
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: team and they're hiding out in the hotel room right

913
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: next door. And it's in Copenhagen. It's it's in Danish territory.

914
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 3: In Sweden, okay, I'm following.

915
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 2: And so the Danish they had their swat team next door,

916
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 2: and they're supposed to wait for a signal from old

917
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 2: Bob Whitman that the deal has been made and that

918
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 2: he has the painting in his hands. And once that happens,

919
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: he says the code word. The Danish swat team then

920
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: rushes into the hotel room busts everybody who was in.

921
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 2: Bob Whitman. The Swedish police meanwhile, they also get to

922
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: do some undercover work of their own because they follow

923
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 2: the thieves down from Stockholm as they take a train

924
00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: to Copenhagen to make the exchange. So Sasha Lingrant, he's

925
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: in down in Copenhagen already, the Baja kou Doom and

926
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 2: his brother Deja Kundum are aboard the train, right, So

927
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 2: I got these two Iraqi nationals going down. They've got

928
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 2: this package that looks like to be the right shape

929
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: and size that's the stolen Rembrandt. And the Swedish cops

930
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 2: are so tempted to arrest them right there on the

931
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: just d it all, but wisely they don't. They stick

932
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: to the plan Meanwhile, down in Copenhagen, Sasha lend Grin

933
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,880
Speaker 2: meets old Bob Whitman at the hotel, remember working undercover.

934
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: The two men travel over the hotel and they handle

935
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: the exchange. Later that same day, the two Iraqi brothers,

936
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: Baja and Deh arrive and they head over to the

937
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: hotel for the planned meet up and the exchange. At

938
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 2: this point, Bob Whitman is trying to play it super

939
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: cool and staying character. I'd like to think he's doing

940
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: some serious wig play, but he's in.

941
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 3: A wig and he's just like, yeah, he's like developed

942
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 3: a character tick.

943
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love it if he had like, you know,

944
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: like a Hawaiian shirt and a blazer. He's like a

945
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 2: fun art guy kojak so as he's like. They're all

946
00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 2: waiting for the stolen artwork to arrive. Finally, the brothers

947
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 2: Aha and Deja. They arrive at the hotel with these

948
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: painting sized package. When they step inside the bugged hotel room,

949
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 2: the brothers asked to see the money. Whitman asks to

950
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: see the painting. They tell him money first, so Witmen

951
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: doesn't want to spook them, so he does as he's told.

952
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 2: He shows them the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars

953
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: in cash. One of the brothers takes the briefcase and

954
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 2: he just walks out of the hotel room. Oh right,

955
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 2: they haven't. No, nothing's been to change. He just walks out.

956
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: So Witmen still hasn't even seen the painting. He doesn't

957
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: even know if it's in the room. He's just been

958
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 2: promised there's like a package that looks like it could

959
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,320
Speaker 2: be a painting. So the Swedish and Danish law enforcement

960
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: they see the brother leave the hotel room with the briefcase,

961
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: they start to freak out a little like church, are

962
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 2: we stopping? We do? Meanwhile, Bob is in the bugged

963
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 2: room and he's narrating out loud what's happening, So his

964
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: partners in the sting operation next door kind of know

965
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 2: what's happening. He's like, so, well, once your man checks

966
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: the cash, then you'll hand over the painting to me.

967
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 2: Is that right? And Sascha Lindgren's like, yeah, don't worry

968
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: about it, and Whitman asks to check the ping, but

969
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 2: the crimers are like, you need to relax. So meanwhile,

970
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: the Swedes and the Danes they watched the one a

971
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,880
Speaker 2: rocky brother take the elevator down to the lobby and

972
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: they just breezes on out of the hotel with a

973
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: quarter million dollars in cash. No one does anything because

974
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: Bob Whitman hasn't said the code word, and these Nordic

975
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: types are like, we got to stick to the plan. So

976
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 2: the Swedes and the Danes, right, they're really tempted to

977
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 2: jump the gun and rush the scene, but they don't.

978
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: They trust Bob Whitman's read of the situation, which is

979
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 2: a good thing because, as it turns out, the package

980
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 2: that they brought with them on the train down from

981
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 2: Stockholm was a decoy. It was a way to test

982
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: if any cops were involved, right, and they thought they

983
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: fully suspected there might be some chance of this sudden

984
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: fire who comes out of nowhere with the Russian mafia

985
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: might not be legit, So they came up with this

986
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: way to kind of suss out the cops, assuming they'd

987
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: be tempted to just grab the brothers as soon as

988
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: they saw the painting size package. Luckily, the Swedes and

989
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: the Danes they didn't jump the gun, and instead they

990
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: wait for the code word from Bob Whitman. Okay, So

991
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: back to the hotel room. The Iraqi brother who left

992
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 2: with the cash eventually turns back up. He comes where

993
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: he takes the elevator right back up. This time he's

994
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,279
Speaker 2: got a wholly different painting sized package. He hops back

995
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,320
Speaker 2: on the elevator, goes back upstairs, rejoins everyone in the

996
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: hotel room. Boom boom boom. You better believe the Swedes

997
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 2: in particular relieve to see him. Returns yeah, oh look

998
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 2: at that, Bob Whitman. So at this point the exchange

999
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: goes down as planned, as agreed upon. The package is opened.

1000
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 2: Whitman does his best undercover bit as the authenticator pulls

1001
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 2: out like a jeweler's loop or whatever, right, and he

1002
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 2: checks the Rembrandt self portrait, and he's like, you know,

1003
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 2: the Russians really want to know, like they're gonna be

1004
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 2: they'll kill me if I'm wrong. I can't waste their money, right,

1005
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: So he's like playing it up. He confirms the painting

1006
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 2: is legitimate. Once he's satisfied, Whitman finally says the code

1007
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 2: word like farfignugan. Right, the Danish swat team rushes into

1008
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,919
Speaker 2: the hotel room. Whitman grabs the painting, and he runs

1009
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,280
Speaker 2: to the bathroom and jumps in the bathtub. Why, he says,

1010
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 2: like kisses ant gunfire. He doesn't want anything to happen

1011
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,920
Speaker 2: to the painting or to the Bob Whitman exactly.

1012
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,439
Speaker 3: So he's not carrying a bulletproof drug.

1013
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: Rude, No, definitely not so. The four men they get arrested,

1014
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: the two Iraqi brothers Baja and Deja, Kudum, an unnamed

1015
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: Gambian man I couldn't find his name in the press,

1016
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: and the Swedish national Sasha Lingrin, the son of Kostoff,

1017
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 2: the Bulgarian drug dealer. They all get busted. This is

1018
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 2: now September two thousand and five, and the press finally

1019
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: gets the full story. The world learns that the two

1020
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: missing masterpieces have both been safely recovered. Renoir's young Parisian

1021
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: was obviously recovered in la and that arrest led to

1022
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 2: a tip that allowed the FBI, along with the Swedes

1023
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 2: and the Danes, to run their sting operation six months

1024
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: later in Copenhagen. And then that nets the final masterpiece,

1025
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 2: the self portrait of Rembrandt. Yeah, the Danes obviously are

1026
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: only too happy to report the final stolen painting is

1027
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 2: unharmed after it's four and a half years in the wild.

1028
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 2: In fact, it was still in its original frame. Nobody

1029
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: even took it out of their frame. No. So Meanwhile,

1030
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 2: back in Stockholm, the head of research for the Swedish

1031
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 2: National Museum, gorrel Kavali Bjorkman. He tells reporters that I

1032
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: jumped with Joy. I had expected it would be recovered

1033
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 2: at some point. I was just hoping we would get

1034
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: it back before I retired, which just goes back to

1035
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: what Thomas Hall, the professor of art at Stockholm University said.

1036
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you remember. Yeah, he said, the

1037
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: whole robbery is absurd. The paintings will eventually return to

1038
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 2: the museum. No collector wants to buy something that you

1039
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: can't show. Professor Hall was right in all three counts. A,

1040
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 2: The robbery was absurd. B. The paintings did eventually return

1041
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 2: to the museum. And lastly, see no collector bought any

1042
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: of the three stolen paintings, because that only ever happens

1043
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 2: where in the movies.

1044
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 3: Is true? It's true.

1045
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 2: So Elizabeth, what's a ridiculous takeaway?

1046
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: Ah?

1047
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yay, that was a good art crime. I think

1048
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 3: I think doing crime in Sweden might be a good idea.

1049
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Dude, sister, don't get me started. Like, the more I

1050
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 2: do research about going to prison, I'm like, I only

1051
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: want to do crime in Europe. It doesn't matter if

1052
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 2: it's France, Sweden, Belgium, even Germany. I don't really want

1053
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: to maybe go to our Russian prison. I think there's

1054
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 2: somebody Eastern European wants and maybe a little hard on me, yeah,

1055
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,760
Speaker 2: but a lot of the like West during the Northern

1056
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 2: European countries concepts are like, I'm like, real, this sounds

1057
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 2: to me like what I would pay for from a gym.

1058
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 2: It's incredible. So my ridiculous takeaway, thanks for asking, Elizabeth,

1059
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: other than me wanting to do crimes in Europe is

1060
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: can you believe that these three paintings get stolen? Some

1061
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: of them spend four and a half four years, four

1062
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: and a half years and no damage. Out of all three,

1063
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 2: there's like one slight scratch on one that was it

1064
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 2: that blows me away, Like because obviously they didn't care.

1065
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: They wrapped one up and a towel, stuffed it in

1066
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 2: like a plastic shopping bag and kept it in a basement.

1067
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 2: Amazing you ever talk to like art preprayers or her stores,

1068
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 2: and they're always very delicate, the white gloves and everything.

1069
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,320
Speaker 2: These guys are like, yeah, just trying not to get like,

1070
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 2: don't spill any beer on it. So there you go.

1071
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 2: You know you in the mood for a talk back.

1072
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 2: I am what do you got for us? Produce a

1073
00:50:55,280 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: d O? God? I went you.

1074
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 7: Hi, Saren and Elizabeth. My name is Lindsay, and I

1075
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 7: love your show so much. But I wanted to honor

1076
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 7: my father who said ridiculous things like I'm on him

1077
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 7: like white on rice, I'm on it like a cheap suit,

1078
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 7: and told me my grandmother invented the Nike swoosh and

1079
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 7: that we were related to Mark Twain, And whenever I

1080
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 7: would call him, he would always say I'm above ground

1081
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 7: and taking nourishment, which I had never heard anyone else

1082
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Speaker 7: say until you did. So thank you on the anniversary

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Speaker 7: of his passing for bringing him close again.

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Speaker 3: Oh I love you guys. Oh thank you for that

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00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,319
Speaker 3: look a kindred spirit above ground and taking nurishment. That's

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00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: that's more wholesome than my above ground and getting paid.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's I have. The Midwestern family also.

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Speaker 3: Like inventing the Nike Twain what an incredible guy. Doesn't matter,

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Speaker 3: it's a good story. I thank you for that. Everybody

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Speaker 3: give a moment for Pops. Big no to Pops. I'm

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Speaker 3: a great guy. Thank you, you know. I also we

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Speaker 3: got an update from our pal who got hacked.

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Speaker 5: Hey, guys, I just want to give you an update

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00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 5: on the hacker situation. And I have got back like

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Speaker 5: half of my stuff thanks to help from friends and family.

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Speaker 5: And I just want you too to know that you

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Speaker 5: have such a massive impact on everywhere, on everybody. So

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Speaker 5: I guess all I gotta say is I'll see you

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Speaker 5: next time.

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Speaker 3: Most people don't get anything, and friends and family stepping

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Speaker 3: up a good community. That makes me so happy. I

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Speaker 3: think this has been bothering me, Yes that I have been.

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Speaker 3: In fact that not too long after we heard it,

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Speaker 3: I opened my laptop and I was like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: what if I opened it there's I just like my

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00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 3: heart sank so totally. Oh my god, I'm so happy.

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Speaker 2: No superstar for your brother. Gratulations well done. Okay, that's

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Speaker 2: a well. As always, you can find us online Ridiculous

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Speaker 2: Crime on Instagram, blue Sky. We have our account Ridiculous

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Speaker 2: Crime Pod on YouTube. We have the website ridiculous Crime

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Speaker 2: dot com where there's gifts for you. It's a whole

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Speaker 2: museum of early gifts. And also there's the merch that

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Speaker 2: so I think we're gonna be adding some new merch soon.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but I've heard rumors from

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Speaker 2: the interns at there working on You know what.

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Speaker 3: I'm just going to go in there and make some

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00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: messed up T shirts. That's threatening to do.

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Speaker 2: Hell, yes, Elizabeth, Yeah, you know what your best self

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to lean in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. We also, obviously we absolutely love your talkbacks. They

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Speaker 2: mean the world to us. So please go to the

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Speaker 2: iHeart app downloaded leave a talkback. We would love to

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Speaker 2: hear your voice here and thank you for all the

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Speaker 2: people who do. It means that the world to us.

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Speaker 2: And also you can always email us if you want.

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Speaker 2: If your old school, go to ridiculous Crime at gmail

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Speaker 2: dot com. We very much enjoy those as well. So

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Speaker 2: thank you all for listening and we will catch you

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Speaker 2: next crime. Ridiculous Crime is hosted by Elizabeth Dutton and

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Speaker 2: Zarin Burnett, produced and edited by the authenticator of Dope

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Speaker 2: Beats for the Russian Mafia Dave Coustin and starring analyst

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Speaker 2: Rutger as Judith. Research is by our resident Professors of

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Speaker 2: all Things Ridiculous and Criminal, Marissa Brown and Jabbari Davis.

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Speaker 2: Our theme song is by our house band, Swedish Motor

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Speaker 2: both aka Thomas Lee and Travis Dutton. The host wardrobe

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Speaker 2: provided by Botany five hundred guest Hara, makeup by Sparkle.

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Speaker 2: Shott and mister Andre. Executive producers are the only two

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Speaker 2: men in the market for a stolen European masterpiece if

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Speaker 2: you happen to have one for sale, Ben Bolin and

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Speaker 2: Noel Brown.

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