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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said.

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Speaker 1: That's what he said.

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Speaker 2: That's what he said. Hey, we don't usually do this,

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Speaker 2: but I want to make sure I give context as

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Speaker 2: we're about to play two to three minutes of an

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Speaker 2: interview on Talking Yanks with Aaron Boone, and Boone got

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Speaker 2: pretty heated and it's really interesting. You're gonna hear from

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Speaker 2: Trevor May and cam Maven right after that, and then

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Speaker 2: later in this pod you're gonna hear from Mark Topkin,

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Speaker 2: who covers the Rays, and he'll give us the goods

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Speaker 2: on the Rays. But let's start with Boonie heated defending

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Speaker 2: postgame interviews.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so flatty diving means they wanted it more last night.

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Speaker 4: No, it doesn't mean that, but it's like that that

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Speaker 4: it's like that visual then to like the post games

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Speaker 4: of like it's July. There's a lot of season left

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Speaker 4: when you're two.

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Speaker 3: But understand the pestering, bantering, leading questions that are being asked.

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Speaker 3: I understand that you're not and I don't want him

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Speaker 3: to just fly off the handle and be emotional. Like

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Speaker 3: you know, we've been pretty good over the years of

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Speaker 3: they and you start getting emotional and going down that road.

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Speaker 3: It's a bad trade.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 4: I guess there's just a difference. Like, you know, we've

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Speaker 4: had a couple of bad outings. The way he talked

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Speaker 4: to the media, it just felt honest and it felt

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Speaker 3: Stop with the reaction of how a guy answers a

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Speaker 4: It's not but it's not. It's not one guy.

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Speaker 3: It's it's like, okay, okay, we we gotta win.

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Speaker 4: We understand to win. Okay, I remember my question from earlier.

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Speaker 3: We are we are obsessed with it and hell ben

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Speaker 4: Okay, so this is great, but this doesn't come through.

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Speaker 3: Everyone handles things different. Some people will give you colorful answers. Yeah, ooh,

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Speaker 3: I love that media answer. Some guys throw their helmet.

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Speaker 3: Does that make you feel good? Some guys are calm, like,

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Speaker 3: stop it. It doesn't mean a guy cares more or

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Speaker 3: less because he dives into home plate.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well yeah, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's you gotta be angry at something. Because

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I hear you're saying that you guys

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Speaker 4: feel urgency that you want to win. That doesn't come

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Speaker 4: across the messaging has been there's a lot of season left.

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Speaker 4: We just got to keep going and we're fine. You know, No,

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Speaker 4: I don't. I don't. I don't regret that play. I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't have done things any differently. It's like, well that

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Speaker 4: the messaging feels different than what you just delivered, that's all.

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Speaker 1: You don't.

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Speaker 3: You don't handle you don't, you don't listen to all

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Speaker 3: my answers. Then you pull.

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not talking about you. I think you've

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Speaker 4: actually been way more in this light the season.

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Speaker 3: Well, Luke Weaver you loved his answer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I also love Luke Weaver though.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, like you pull, you chair, your cherry pick,

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Speaker 3: and the answers you like that are like yeah, yes, sugging,

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Speaker 3: tugging at my fandom and yes, yes, sorry we're not

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Speaker 3: they're not robots.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah that's what I want. I want more non

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Speaker 4: robotic answer.

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Speaker 3: Don't care what you want?

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, I'm just letting you know.

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Speaker 3: These are answers of pestering everyday questions. I want our

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Speaker 3: guys in a good like Boom, we are locked in

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Speaker 3: with it and when it's really good and all in between.

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Speaker 3: I want us locked. I want to showing up every day,

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Speaker 3: ready to prepare and ready to go.

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Speaker 5: Period.

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Speaker 2: That's Yankees manager Aaron Boone on talking Yanks, just delivering

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Speaker 2: the goods. Cam. I mean, you played for Boonie, so

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Speaker 2: you can lead us off here. I'll let you go.

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Speaker 2: This is all player perspective here, because you've got basically

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Speaker 6: Then and you said it and this is my problem

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Speaker 6: to have so much respect for John Boy media.

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Speaker 6: But the problem is is that fandom that comes into

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Speaker 6: play and and and I love Boonie's answers. And this

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Speaker 6: because I played for the man. And this is why

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Speaker 6: the fans can say with what they want. They want

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Speaker 6: to fire Boone, they want to they want this or that.

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Speaker 6: The players in the clubhouse love Aaron Boone. I'm telling you,

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Speaker 6: I'll say it again. The players in the love and

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Speaker 6: It's the reason why he keeps getting get extended because

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Speaker 6: he can handle things that not many people can handle

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Speaker 6: in New.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's differently, But one thing about Aaron Boone is he

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Speaker 1: In New York, especially the Bronx.

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Speaker 6: I told people the pinstripes, it's different that the expectation

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Speaker 6: the Yankees of old. They haven't won and so long,

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Speaker 6: it doesn't matter. There's an expectation when you put on

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Speaker 6: to convey to the fan is the mind is the

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Speaker 6: mindset that we can't dwell in the shit excuse my language,

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Speaker 6: like we have to have a short mind frame. Even

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Speaker 6: when they win, they go to the podium and they

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Speaker 6: don't gloat, right, Hey, good win, what he get the

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Speaker 6: job done? Long season? They don't clip that, right'. It's

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Speaker 6: the same thing win or lose with Aaron Boon. Hey,

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Speaker 6: it's unfortunate. We want to play better. But because he's

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Speaker 6: like you said, you're not smacking water bottles and throwing

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Speaker 6: stuff in the dug out. That's not the Yankee way

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Speaker 6: I play with guys, or I play for guys like

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Speaker 6: Terry Pendleton who said guys would have threw shit and

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Speaker 6: guys would have pulled them to the side and say, hey,

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Speaker 6: get your craft together, right, like lock in, get over it.

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Speaker 6: So there's a player mentality that I think watching this

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Speaker 6: it let me know that I need to be careful

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Speaker 6: because they're just some things that fans will never understand.

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Speaker 6: And again, John Boy Media has done an excellent job,

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Speaker 6: I think they brought more eyes to baseball. But this

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Speaker 6: able to separate that part of being a professional. Right,

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Speaker 6: We've been taught to be professionals. Give a professional answer,

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Speaker 6: a great example of fans not truly understanding what players

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Speaker 8: So, believe it or not, I have a little bit

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Speaker 8: He played for both New York teams. I played for

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Speaker 5: In the Northeast.

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Speaker 8: The fans want to know that the players feel the

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Speaker 8: And you can only give so much of that as

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Speaker 8: and it makes it it makes it harder to do

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Speaker 5: So the only group here that.

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Speaker 5: There was a.

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Speaker 8: Perception sometimes of how our commentator grew. That's gk R legends.

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Speaker 8: there for us. They're there for the fans, and what

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Speaker 8: that is the point. So the player is giving a

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Speaker 8: They're like, oh, we also hate this place sometimes, like

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: How many managers do you, either of you know nowadays

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Speaker 1: Guys? Not at all, not at all.

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Speaker 6: Because this is my point when I say that, this

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Speaker 6: I freaking hate this place. I hate this guy. He's

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Speaker 6: Now that the fans for some reason are blinded by right,

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Speaker 6: But he's the guy that when you wake up, you're like, hell, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Here with the most diehard fans in the world, they

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Speaker 2: All right, let's bring in a fan question or two. Trevor,

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Speaker 8: I do uh from the Velaska Sports podcast. So I

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Speaker 5: But it is what it is.

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Speaker 8: It says, do players look at how fans basically are

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Speaker 8: A little bit because I'm getting this, I'm getting this

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Speaker 5: Like they can do that all day.

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Speaker 5: That way on purpose.

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Speaker 8: And when Rob reads stuff like this, he's like, exactly,

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Speaker 8: And if you're if they keep saying, ah, we got

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Speaker 5: That it works.

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Speaker 5: I have to pay.

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Speaker 8: That just doesn't really line up for me and is

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Speaker 5: But you know what that.

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Speaker 8: Number is is the debate should that we should be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Trev, they're never going to divulge those numbers.

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Speaker 6: You know that tell you forget because you want to

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Speaker 2: It as a lawyer.

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Speaker 6: So like so like makes a great point. Rob Manford

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Speaker 1: You really have to pay.

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Speaker 6: Attention to what he's saying and how he's saying things,

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Speaker 1: Now that's a great answer. I love it. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Also, an algorithm is what decides your ticket prices on

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Speaker 8: Not cheaper, guys, pirates tickets are not cheaper.

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Speaker 2: Like, let's let's be real on it. There's one person

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Speaker 2: what what what are they even talking about when you

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Speaker 2: start to get to the root of it. Sorry to

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Speaker 2: go back to it, but I'm just like thinking as.

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Speaker 6: Cover, like you we said, as a matter of fact,

444
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Speaker 6: matter now I think about it, naming Yankee who acted.

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Speaker 3: That way, memorization that that's.

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Speaker 6: How they that's the Yankee way. Like, it's a great point.

447
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Speaker 6: That's a great point. Glad you brought it back to it.

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Speaker 1: It's a great point.

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Speaker 3: You don't do that.

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Speaker 2: They don't do that. Hey, we've got Tampa Bay Times

451
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Speaker 2: reporter Mark Topkin joining us. Well, this is a fun

452
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Speaker 2: team to cover so far this year. Topp are great

453
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Speaker 2: to have you on. Right to the good stuff, buy

454
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Speaker 2: or sell for the Rays. And if so, what do

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Speaker 2: you think what do you think they're up to?

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna have to answer your question.

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Speaker 9: I'm probably gonna have to say both, which is kind

458
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Speaker 9: of what they typically tend to do. They kind of

459
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Speaker 9: almost pride themselves on not being just one or just

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Speaker 9: the other. Like they say, those labels like don't apply

461
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Speaker 9: to them, and that's kind of if you look back

462
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Speaker 9: their history, that is kind of how they've been doing it.

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Speaker 9: Be a little curious.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Eric Neander kind of laid it out at

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Speaker 5: the end of.

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Speaker 9: The All Star break talking to a couple of us

467
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Speaker 9: on the Zoom call and said, you know, if how

468
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Speaker 9: they play in these games leading up to the deadline

469
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Speaker 9: will determine how aggressive they are in adding he feels

470
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Speaker 9: like they are a team that has a chance to

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Speaker 9: play into October and win games in October. But he

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Speaker 9: also said, as he has in the past, how close

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Speaker 9: they are to the division lead will also be a factor,

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Speaker 9: because you know, the chance to win the division and

475
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Speaker 9: get one of those two buys is very appealing as well.

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Speaker 9: So not doing so well on that front. Still six

477
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Speaker 9: and a half out, one more game against the White Sox,

478
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Speaker 9: then they go to Cincinnati, and then of course why

479
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Speaker 9: not just be in New York leading right up to

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Speaker 9: the deadline with a four game series against the Yankees,

481
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Speaker 9: knowing that they're also obviously playing to see what you

482
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Speaker 9: position they can put themselves in. So it's gonna be

483
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Speaker 9: an interesting week or week, I guess eight days or

484
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Speaker 9: so to see how this shakes out and they play

485
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Speaker 9: a day game on Thursday, So you could have a

486
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Speaker 9: situation where they finished that game Thursday and then they

487
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Speaker 9: make a trade or two and there's still time before

488
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Speaker 9: the sixth blog deadline.

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Speaker 2: What are the significant needs in your mind? If they say, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're generally going to buy, we had a good next

491
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Speaker 2: week of play, we're in contention, what do you think

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Speaker 2: they're going to do or what do you think they're

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Speaker 2: going to target?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think, as you guys were talking about, and

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Speaker 9: Trevor mentioned, you know, the bullpen arms. There's a lot

496
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Speaker 9: of them out there, their premium some of the premium guys,

497
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Speaker 9: they certainly could use one, even though they feel a

498
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Speaker 9: little better. Edwin who said I looked a little better

499
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Speaker 9: last night in the time before than he had right

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Speaker 9: before the break. But I would think a bullpen arm.

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Speaker 9: And then I heard you guys talking about Morell. That

502
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Speaker 9: would seem like a spot that they could upgrade at

503
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Speaker 9: since he really doesn't play very much. But Johnny DeLuca

504
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Speaker 9: just started to rehab a triple A. Ritchie Polasio has

505
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Speaker 9: just started to rehab a triple A. So you know,

506
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Speaker 9: it's one of those where it would have to probably

507
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Speaker 9: be a significant upgrade to make it worthwhile, because you

508
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Speaker 9: not only would be replacing morel but you'd then be

509
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Speaker 9: blocking De Luca and or Plasios from coming back. But

510
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Speaker 9: a right handed power bat, you know, to go with

511
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Speaker 9: the lefties, you know, Brandon Loud, Johnny Ronda, Josh Lowe.

512
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Speaker 9: It would seem like another right handed bat to help

513
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Speaker 9: them from that side. I mean, Caminero certainly has done well,

514
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Speaker 9: Yandi's certainly done well. But you know, one more kind

515
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Speaker 9: of key right handed bat I would think would make sense.

516
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Speaker 9: But knowing how they operate, what makes sense with me,

517
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Speaker 9: They'll go out and get a lefty starter or something.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 6: And I want to stay there because you talk about

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Speaker 6: what makes sense, because I was going to say, so

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Speaker 6: you're saying the Ras are just gonna do raise things

522
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Speaker 6: and wait for those guys to come back and try

523
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Speaker 6: to make it run and trust in the process as

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Speaker 6: they as they usually do. And one thing I want

525
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Speaker 6: to ask you, you know, are you surprised that where

526
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Speaker 6: they are as far as you know, when you looked

527
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Speaker 6: at everything that was going on prior to the season,

528
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Speaker 6: the stadium being you know, washed away and moving around,

529
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Speaker 6: and you know, uncertainty about signing certain guys.

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Speaker 1: Are you surprised at how.

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Speaker 6: Competitive they have been or you or you knew that

532
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Speaker 6: these guys they could band together and be competitive in

533
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Speaker 6: alist because I'm surprised actually that they are where they

534
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Speaker 6: are right now.

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Speaker 9: Not with you, Cam, I mean, I thought that they

536
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Speaker 9: did not do enough during the offseason. We were surprised

537
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Speaker 9: they didn't do more to upgrade the offense. You know,

538
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Speaker 9: Danny Jansen turns out to have been a pretty solid signing,

539
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Speaker 9: but that wasn't like a significant offensive upgrade. There were

540
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Speaker 9: a lot of intangible things that he brought that they wanted. Also,

541
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Speaker 9: the Hastan Kim move was puzzling at the time. Obviously,

542
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Speaker 9: the rehab took longer than they expected. So it's kind

543
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Speaker 9: of hard to say if that's going to end up

544
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Speaker 9: working out good or bad or horrible or great, you know,

545
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Speaker 9: somewhere on the spectrum. I don't know where it's gonna

546
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Speaker 9: end up being. But yeah, I am surprised because it

547
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Speaker 9: didn't seem like they did enough to improve what was

548
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Speaker 9: one of the worst offenses in the majors. They believed,

549
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Speaker 9: as you said, in their process that they call it,

550
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Speaker 9: they weren't twenty three was an aberration.

551
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Speaker 5: They weren't that good. Twenty four was an aberration. They

552
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Speaker 5: weren't that bad.

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Speaker 9: They thought they'd be somewhere in the mid And you

554
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Speaker 9: know those five six weeks where they went off on

555
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Speaker 9: that twenty five and nine run, and they looked like

556
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Speaker 9: a team that was going to be really good because

557
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Speaker 9: they were doing it in so many different ways. They

558
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Speaker 9: were doing it with power, they were doing it with speed.

559
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Speaker 9: They are a track team when they've got the right

560
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Speaker 9: guys out there, and they were doing it with small ball.

561
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Speaker 9: I mean, there's still some players joking, but Kevin Cash

562
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Speaker 9: used to not even like to use the B word,

563
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Speaker 9: and they're bunting all over the place now. So it's

564
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Speaker 9: been a really interesting evolution in corporation of creativity, a

565
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Speaker 9: versatal offense, different ways to do things. To combine that

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Speaker 9: with their pitching staff, and they look like a really

567
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Speaker 9: serious postseason contending team. Then they just seem to run

568
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Speaker 9: out of gas and the bullpen kind of went crazy

569
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Speaker 9: bad in those last ten games on that roach. If

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Speaker 9: they went two and eight, they were twelve four and

571
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Speaker 9: twelve going into the break, and they win two out

572
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Speaker 9: of three against Baltimore one on one so far against

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Speaker 9: the White Sox.

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Speaker 8: Speaking of pitching and a guy who's on his rehab

596
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Speaker 8: apparent or rehab assignment and has been considered the ace

597
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Speaker 8: of this team, Shane McClanahan hasn't pitched this year and

598
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Speaker 8: he was kinda to take a step back again with

599
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Speaker 8: some bicep tenanitis.

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Speaker 5: Two parter are here.

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Speaker 8: How does that change the mindset for starting pitching going

602
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Speaker 8: into the deadline because this is not the best timing

603
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Speaker 8: for that. Or do you think that they try to

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Speaker 8: maybe go grab somebody, slide everybody up. I know they've

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Speaker 8: had a lot of uh, they've had a lot of

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Speaker 8: luck in starter health this year. Or do we think

607
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Speaker 8: that like Joe Boyle could get some starts. I know

608
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Speaker 8: that he's been throwing multiple innings. Are trying to keep

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Speaker 8: him there without getting him into the one inning.

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Speaker 2: Archetype.

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Speaker 8: You don't want to do that if you can avoid it.

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Speaker 8: Which one, what what are we thinking for Shane for

613
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Speaker 8: his timeline coming back and how does that affect maybe

614
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Speaker 8: some decisions being made here in the next eight days.

615
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think it could have an impact.

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Speaker 9: I think first of all, we always have to assume

617
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Speaker 9: they know more than we do right as far as

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Speaker 9: from the medical thing and where things are. If this

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Speaker 9: truly is what they said yesterday, just a couple maybe

620
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Speaker 9: that push is Shane to mid August. It still gives

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Speaker 9: you the opportunity if you want to to trade a starter,

622
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Speaker 9: because you do have Joe Boyle to step in. They've

623
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Speaker 9: had a couple guys from Triple A that have been

624
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Speaker 9: up here and shown well at times, and Ian Seymour,

625
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Speaker 9: Joe Rock came up and threw.

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Speaker 5: They've got some depth there.

627
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Speaker 9: But I think ideally Shane was set up to step

628
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Speaker 9: in perfectly if they decided to trade Zach Lettel, who

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Speaker 9: looks to be tradable by Ray's standards. He makes a

630
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Speaker 9: fair amount of money, He's going to his free agent year,

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Speaker 9: probably doesn't come back next year, assuming everyone's healthy.

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Speaker 5: But if you know you.

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Speaker 9: Had Shane kind of lined up right, if you traded him,

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Speaker 9: Shane was gonna be ready right around the deadline, it

635
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Speaker 9: would have been.

636
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Speaker 5: A very clean fit.

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Speaker 9: You do have Joe Boyle, they are one hundred percent

638
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Speaker 9: sure he could step right into the rotation. And then

639
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Speaker 9: there's some you know, people that think he should be

640
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Speaker 9: in the rotation right now. But you know there's been

641
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Speaker 9: rivers about TODs Bradley. Obviously his name's gotten thrown out there.

642
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Speaker 9: I think Shane McClanahan being set back has to give

643
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Speaker 9: them a little more caution about trading a starter right

644
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Speaker 9: now if they feel like they're going to be in

645
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Speaker 9: this race, because you don't know with the Drew Rasmusen

646
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Speaker 9: workload how that's going to play out. He looked pretty

647
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Speaker 9: good for the first three innings last night, got to

648
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Speaker 9: hit around a little bit in the fourth.

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Speaker 5: That was it.

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Speaker 9: They hoped to get him back to that five to

651
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Speaker 9: six range where he was and was really good and

652
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Speaker 9: made himself an All Star in the first half. But

653
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Speaker 9: you know they talked about one hundred and fifty inning

654
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Speaker 9: limit on him. Yeah, I don't know if that includes.

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Speaker 9: I don't know if you get like that's like the

656
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Speaker 9: home run derby. You get bonus rounds, you get bonus

657
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Speaker 9: innings if you make the postseason. I don't know how

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Speaker 9: that works, but I do think you gotta be a

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Speaker 9: little more cautious now in trading a starter. If Shane

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Speaker 9: is not on track to come back, and you mentioned

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Speaker 9: he hasn't pitched this year, he didn't pitch last year either.

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Speaker 5: That's the other thing.

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Speaker 9: Don't forget he he's coming up on two full years

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Speaker 9: since he last pitched in a game. So even then,

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Speaker 9: if he comes back healthy, how much is it fair

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Speaker 9: to expect a guy who hasn't faced major league hitters

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Speaker 9: in two years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I got one for you here. Let's get

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Speaker 2: to position players a little more on Brandon Law hitting

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Speaker 2: the shelf for this club and how much that affects

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Speaker 2: things over the next few weeks.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's tough.

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Speaker 9: I mean, he was, you know, he had the oblique

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Speaker 9: thing happened the same day he made the All Star

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Speaker 9: team up in Minnesota. They had a kind of three

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Speaker 9: or four days to kind of see how he felt,

677
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Speaker 9: did a little bit of a huddle, and you know,

678
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Speaker 9: made what was really a team first decision for him

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Speaker 9: not to be active for the All Star Game, not

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Speaker 9: take a chance on taking a swing in the All

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Speaker 9: Star Game and knocking himself out for an extended period.

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Speaker 9: He comes back and suddenly his foot starts hurting the

683
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Speaker 9: other day, and you know, it turns out to be

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Speaker 9: They thought planner frostiagis now they're saying tendonitis.

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Speaker 5: Whatever it is.

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Speaker 9: It's going to knock him out for at least a week,

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Speaker 9: you know, ten days whatever ends up being again. So

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Speaker 9: it's been tough. I mean they talk a lot. Kevin

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Speaker 9: Cash often says, how Yanni Diez goes is how the

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Speaker 9: Rays goes. But you can also make a case how

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Speaker 9: Brandon Laud goes is how the Rays goes sometimes, and

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Speaker 9: him not playing during most of that last road trip

693
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Speaker 9: I don't think is a coincidence in their offense dagnating

694
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Speaker 9: during that last road trip before the All Star break,

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Speaker 9: so they need him back in there. I think they're

696
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Speaker 9: optimistic this will be a short term thing. There's a

697
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Speaker 9: lot of different treatments you do for those kind of injuries.

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Speaker 9: They feel like he'll be back relatively soon at the

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Speaker 9: end of the ten days. But yeah, that takes you

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Speaker 9: right up to the day before the trade deadline if

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Speaker 9: you lose a bunch of games. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 9: guy that could be in trade conversations or teams not

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Speaker 9: gonna be a little leary since he stopped playing. I mean,

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Speaker 9: it just the levels, what you call it, the layers

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Speaker 9: of the onion, or on this time of year or

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Speaker 9: on anything like this, are always so thick and deep.

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Speaker 6: I want to ask you about a guy who I

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Speaker 6: think is he's box office when you talk about exciting

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Speaker 6: and especially in the day and age where so many strikeouts,

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Speaker 6: you know, so much swing and miss Chanler Simpson. You know,

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Speaker 6: first off, I know moves are made and there's a

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Speaker 6: pecking order, you know when you talk about prospects and

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Speaker 6: who's ahead of who. For one, I was extremely surprised

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Speaker 6: that he ever got sent back down.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that you figure out a

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Speaker 1: way to make room for.

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Speaker 6: Now he's back, continue to be that smart plug, continue to,

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Speaker 6: you know, really just lead that offense. How special is

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Speaker 6: he and do they think like Chandler Simpsons, Well, all

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Speaker 6: look at some of his Motor League numbers. He's had

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Speaker 6: an eight hundred ops before. When you talk about a

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Speaker 6: guy who doesn't have a lot of pop, he can

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Speaker 6: do things with his speed that will I think make

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Speaker 6: up for the lack of power. What do you think

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Speaker 6: about Chandler Simpson and what are the Rays see him

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Speaker 6: as far as is he there to stay?

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Speaker 9: I think he's there to stay for now for sure,

728
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Speaker 9: and they couldn't be more pleased with not only what

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Speaker 9: he did to get here, and think about this. He

730
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Speaker 9: was a twenty twenty two draft pick who played second

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Speaker 9: base at Georgia Tech, and now he's playing center field

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Speaker 9: in the big leagues.

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Speaker 1: Three years later.

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Speaker 5: He went from I looked this up.

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Speaker 9: It was less than a year his last game at

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Speaker 9: Bowling Green in twenty twenty four to his first game

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Speaker 9: in the big leagues this year.

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Speaker 5: It was less than a year to go from High A.

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Speaker 9: To Double A to Triple A to the big leagues

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Speaker 9: and make an impact him. He's not just a twenty

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Speaker 9: sixth man here. He is a huge part of what

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Speaker 9: they do. And I think give the Rays. You guys

743
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Speaker 9: were talking before I heard part of the conversation about

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Speaker 9: the Rays had this reputation for you know, they always

745
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Speaker 9: make good trades. Obviously they don't always make good trades,

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Speaker 9: but many work out in their favor.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 9: I think the drafting and the player development has gotten

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Speaker 9: better too, And Channeler Simpson is a credit to those people,

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Speaker 9: to their scouts, to their player development people, because you know,

751
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Speaker 9: the word was, hey, he's got some raw skills, but

752
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Speaker 9: this is guy's you know, it's gonna take some work

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Speaker 9: to get him there, and they got him there. And

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Speaker 9: Eric Neander was saying during spring training, you know, it

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Speaker 9: was almost like that was his guy. You know, like,

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Speaker 9: I think Channel Simpson is going to play a baby

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Speaker 9: this year. I think he's gonna have an impact and okay,

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Speaker 9: yeah whatever. You know, you hear a lot of things

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Speaker 9: in spring training and they were right on with this kid.

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Speaker 9: And he is a great kid. He has got the

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Speaker 9: ability to keep getting better. I did a piece on

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Speaker 9: him in Today's Tampa Bay Times, Tampa Bay Dot Comfrey

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Speaker 9: Club and just they talk about he understands who he is.

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Speaker 9: He doesn't try to be something else. He doesn't try

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Speaker 9: to get too big, he doesn't try to now hit

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Speaker 9: the ball out of the park. He doesn't try to

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Speaker 9: do things he can't do. He bunts, he hits it

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Speaker 9: on the ground, he hits it on the line. He

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Speaker 9: runs like crazy. He causes defense. Kevin Cash, he used

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Speaker 9: the phrase the other day and this is a paraphrase.

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Speaker 9: I'm pretty close, he said. Shadow Simpson causes the biggest

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Speaker 9: defensive shifts and adjustments in baseball of any hitter. If

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Speaker 9: you watch how the corner infielders have to come way

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Speaker 9: inc potential bunt, the middle endfielders usually played double play depth.

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Speaker 9: The outfielders kind of crash in and sometimes shift over

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Speaker 9: to the gap to try to make sure he doesn't

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Speaker 9: hit the ball past them and get a double or

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Speaker 9: triple or inside the park home run.

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Speaker 8: I want to expand a little bit on that too,

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Speaker 8: because he kind of covered a little bit of what

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Speaker 8: my question is going to be. Because with Chandler Simpson

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Speaker 8: I watch he's fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: Especially running home the first right.

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Speaker 8: If you plink, you're gonna miss it, and it's very

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Speaker 8: hard to take your eyes just off him as a viewer.

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Speaker 8: But what I actually loved watching is even this is

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Speaker 8: what I did back when Billy Hamilton was doing similar things,

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Speaker 8: is watching the reaction of the guys needing to field

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Speaker 8: the ball when he is running. And so he has

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Speaker 8: definitely had an impact on some specific games. So, off

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Speaker 8: the top of your head, is there any specific play

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Speaker 8: where you a defender who was known for being a

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Speaker 8: very good defender seem a little bit out of sorts

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Speaker 8: because they had to get Chandler A. Simpson out, maybe

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Speaker 8: more so than they ever any other guy in the league.

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Speaker 8: Like Anthony Volpi, for example, is a guy who I've

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Speaker 8: seen rush by him a couple of times, but anyone

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Speaker 8: else that you've noticed.

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Speaker 5: I think we've seen it a couple of times.

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Speaker 9: I think if you go back to the play, I

801
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Speaker 9: know it was controversial because the scoring change was made

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Speaker 9: a little bit later, but the play that essentially broke

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Speaker 9: up mac freedz no hitter. Here was a ground ball

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Speaker 9: between first base and the mound, and it was correctly

805
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Speaker 9: scored a base hit. He just beat it out. I mean,

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Speaker 9: there was nobody did anything wrong. Nobody could have done

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Speaker 9: anything better. He was just that fast and put the

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Speaker 9: ball on the right spot. But I don't have a

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Speaker 9: great other example for you, Trevor where there's one that

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Speaker 9: stands out. But I would say you just see the

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Speaker 9: rush from the throws back. Chad Mattola, the Rais hitting

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Speaker 9: coach who obviously has worked very closely with Chandler, we

813
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Speaker 9: were talking the other day. I didn't get this in

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Speaker 9: the article, but he had a good idea. He said,

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Speaker 9: there should be like another stat column because you get

816
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Speaker 9: penalized right when you reach on an error. It's just

817
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Speaker 9: scored as if you made an out. But he said,

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Speaker 9: the way Chandler's causing errors, there should be like a

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Speaker 9: different kind of error where you still get credit for

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Speaker 9: the hit because he forced the error, like a forced

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Speaker 9: error versus an error that you know, a fielder makes

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Speaker 9: him commission.

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Speaker 5: Basically, this is a forced error.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's costing him money. I mean, if you think

825
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Speaker 2: about it, he's going to go to arbitration at some

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Speaker 2: point in his life. I mean, those stats are real,

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Speaker 2: they matter for things for the individual. Obviously it makes

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Speaker 2: the impact on the game. But it's good, combo topper,

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Speaker 2: great to have you on. Thank you for the time.

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Speaker 5: We'll catch you soon, all right, It sounds good anytime.

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Speaker 5: Guys appreciate