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Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 1: straight Fire, fam? It's me Jason McIntyre, Straight Fire for Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: July twelve, and I got some good news to report

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Speaker 1: right off the bat. I know you guys were waiting

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Speaker 1: on pins and needles. I think people still say that

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Speaker 1: regarding my eye injuries suffered in the Dad Basketball League

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Speaker 1: on Sunday night, no stitches required. I went back to

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Speaker 1: he said, listen, look it didn't bust wide opened. You're okay,

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Speaker 1: and did one of those okay your show and I

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Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm okay, but I will be

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Speaker 1: swollen a little bit when you see me on The

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Speaker 1: Herd Wednesday, Thursday and then Friday. I'll be hosting The

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Speaker 1: Herd with Chris Broussard Radio only. But um, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't laugh when you see it. It It happened. Injuries happen, Fellas.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of injuries, Paolo ban Caro, Orlando Magic Future Superstar,

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Speaker 1: so good in the first two games. He's been shut down.

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Speaker 1: So if you missed his first two performances, go look

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Speaker 1: him up on YouTube. He was so good. Orlandos like,

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Speaker 1: no Mass, no Mass. We're not gonna put him out there.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna show anything. We need to get some

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Speaker 1: But I do have to interrupt right now because we

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Speaker 1: have a great guest coming up. Jerry Coleman one oh

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Speaker 1: five seven the Fan in Baltimore. I just needed some

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Speaker 1: perspective on Lamar Jackson, and Jerry had the GM Dakosta

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest, I was unaware that Lamar R.

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Speaker 1: Jackson is playing this so badly. And I'm not just

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Speaker 1: more revenue than Lamar Jackson. Like, wrap your head around that.

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Speaker 1: So Jerry Coleman, you know, he's gonna he's gonna talk

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Speaker 1: He's playing this so poorly. He's got to fix it.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of Lamar Jackson, you know, people kind of

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Speaker 1: a second, but it was like such a slow Monday

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Speaker 1: dash under no circumstances. And Lamar Jackson not a top

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Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson apparently down to four not five accusers. I

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Speaker 1: media outlets pick them up. Apparently some tabronies made up

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Speaker 1: Like what do you have going on in your life

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Speaker 1: any rate. Without further ado, let's get to our guest,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Coleman of one oh five seven the Fan in Baltimore.

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Speaker 1: let's welcome into straight fire talk a little Baltimore Ravens,

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Speaker 1: maybe Orioles. Jerry Coleman, you know him, big time radio

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Speaker 1: about Baltimore. And I'm from the northern Virginia area, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: How you doing man, enjoying that ride? I'm doing great, Chase,

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Speaker 1: and thanks for having me on it. Uh. It has

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Speaker 1: the wild cards standings and like, there's excitement about the Orioles, right,

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Speaker 1: Jayson now spend money that Rays occasionally do when they develop,

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Speaker 1: It's it's not even. And the guys of the AL East,

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Speaker 1: also that a lot of people looked at the schedule

426
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Speaker 1: is kind of a soft schedule to start the season,

427
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Speaker 1: but the way they deteriorated, I think a lot of

428
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Speaker 1: people were upset about that, and then they considered the injuries.

429
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Speaker 1: But you know, to still win eight games with all

430
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Speaker 1: the injuries they had was pretty remarkable. Yeah, and we

431
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Speaker 1: know that Hardball is not gonna be blamed. Everybody loves him.

432
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Speaker 1: Great coach, definitely a top five six coach in the NFL.

433
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Speaker 1: So if there is gonna be somebody the axe falls on,

434
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: it's probably Roman, right he would be the next to go. Yeah,

435
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,359
Speaker 1: John and Steven Shotti have a tight relationship. Steven Shotty

436
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Speaker 1: likes continuity, so he doesn't like to get rid of coaches,

437
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Speaker 1: but sometimes when his hand is forced, he does that.

438
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Speaker 1: But you look at Tomlin, you look at Belichick. I

439
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 1: think those are the only two that have longer ten

440
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Speaker 1: years in the NFL right now that John Harball. At

441
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Speaker 1: what point do you think the owner steps in and says,

442
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: listen to Costa, You've been a great soldier forever. I'm

443
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Speaker 1: gonna take the reins here. We're gonna pay that. We're

444
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Speaker 1: gonna pay this band what he wants. Do you think

445
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Speaker 1: the owner as he stepped in historically, and and I

446
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: don't remember the Flacco deal. I remember Flacco got a

447
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 1: ridiculous contract. Well, he gambled on himself and Ozzie Newsome,

448
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: as you know, the former GM Steven Shotti let him

449
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Speaker 1: handle everything, and so did our model. So I don't

450
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Speaker 1: see that happening. I think Lamar is a lot like

451
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: Joe gambling on himself right now. And obviously, if Lamar

452
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Speaker 1: comes out and has a big year and leads his

453
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Speaker 1: team to a Super Bowl, he's going to get paid.

454
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Speaker 1: If he doesn't do that again, I just think they're

455
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 1: gonna franchise him and see what happens the following season.

456
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna make them happy. But we'll

457
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Speaker 1: cross that bridge when we get there. But I just

458
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: think this year they play without the new contract. Interesting.

459
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Speaker 1: I like Lamar as much as the next guy, but

460
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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. The a f c

461
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Speaker 1: S loaded up. Do you think going into the season

462
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Speaker 1: that they're the best team in the in the division,

463
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Speaker 1: let's start with that. Well, that's a tough call. I

464
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: think their battle battling the Bengals. I totally discount the

465
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Speaker 1: Browns because of their situation with Shawn Watson and I

466
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Speaker 1: just feel like they're just a terribly run organization. The

467
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Speaker 1: Steelers I never count out, except they just don't have

468
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Speaker 1: a quarterback I think you can rely on. So I

469
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: think it will be a two team race between the

470
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Speaker 1: Bengals and the Ravens. But we still don't know how

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Speaker 1: healthy the Ravens are gonn to be. They really haven't

472
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Speaker 1: let on about Dobbyn's Edwards, Ronnie Stanley, Marcus Peters is

473
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Speaker 1: coming back from a big injury. Marlon Humphrey seems to

474
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Speaker 1: be okay. So you look at that tandem of quarterbacks,

475
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Speaker 1: they are great. They just don't have anyone that can

476
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Speaker 1: really rush the passer and in the a f C,

477
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: which is pass or loaded. That's a big problem for

478
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 1: this team. You can't cover someone for four or five

479
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Speaker 1: seconds in this league, no matter how that your secondary is.

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Speaker 1: And then you can't turn your back on Lamar because

481
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 1: he can still uh dust people. So I don't know, Jerry,

482
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Speaker 1: the way I look at this, historically, if you wait

483
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Speaker 1: to pay your quarterback, you end up paying more, right.

484
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Speaker 1: Is that is that fair assessment? It's it's that's been historical. Yeah,

485
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty accurate. I think the Ravens realized that.

486
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Speaker 1: But also they just don't want to make a mistake

487
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Speaker 1: and overpay a guy and lock up their franchise like

488
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Speaker 1: the Browns have into one guy. I mean, but the

489
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Speaker 1: Browns Watson, you know, we'll see he was a great quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Would you say he was the top ten guy before

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Speaker 1: before the suspension, well, not the suspension last year, but

492
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Speaker 1: missing all of last season, Yeah, I think you would be.

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Speaker 1: And I know all these few days the top ten

494
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Speaker 1: lists around right now, Lamar was left off one. That's

495
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,679
Speaker 1: like a big topic here in Baltimore this week. The

496
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Speaker 1: fact that Lamar was left out of a top ten

497
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Speaker 1: list in the middle of July who cares. We'll see

498
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Speaker 1: what happens in September, but I'm sure he'll use that

499
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: as inspiration. I do believe he's a top ten quarterback, Jason.

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Speaker 1: I don't have him as a top five, top seven,

501
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,719
Speaker 1: but he's right there on the periphery. I don't know

502
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Speaker 1: how anybody could look at other people with a straight

503
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: face that say Dak Prescott's a better quarterback than Lamar Jackson,

504
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: Like they're just aren't stats to back that up. There's nothing.

505
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: It's like America's team, by the way Dak had. And

506
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: this is not to bash jack He's a good quarterback,

507
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: but he also had a Maori Cooper Cedee Lamb. They

508
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: invested so heavily in receiver, whereas Lamar Jackson looks around

509
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: and he's like, well, Rashad Bateman's my guy. Like his

510
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: Bateman even the number three receiver in Dallas. He probably isn't,

511
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: but he's he's an up and coming receiver. But the

512
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: problem is after Bait and nobody else has any recognition,

513
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,239
Speaker 1: no one else has any numbers in terms of what

514
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: they've done in their careers. I'm talking about guys like

515
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Speaker 1: Tailon Wallace and Devin DuVernay, you know, I mean these

516
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: are guys James Prochet. Yeah, I was gonna ask who

517
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the depth chart, Jerry, who the hell

518
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: is James Prochet. He's a guy that is still up

519
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: and coming again. He's a guy that can walk down

520
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: Main Street and any street in this country and no

521
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: one would know who he is because he's not a

522
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: guy that he's an household name. It wasn't the same

523
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Speaker 1: with the whole wide receiver room. There's no one in

524
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: there that can be banging their chests saying I need

525
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: more targets or anything. That's the only positive about the

526
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: wide receiver room. There's not gonna be that big ego

527
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: usually you find in most NFL wide receiver rooms because

528
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: who can brag in that room? No one has a resume.

529
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Speaker 1: See the problem when you are a run heavy offense

530
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 1: and you have no receivers to stretch the field. I mean,

531
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: do duvern is fast? Right? Bateman is a possession guy.

532
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's basically gonna be we're gonna Brackett Mark

533
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 1: Andrews that we're gonna play the run right like nobody's

534
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: Basically they're gonna try and revert back to two thousand nineteen.

535
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna be tight end heavy where they're blocking, blocking, blocking,

536
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: trying to use Andrews at times, handing the ball off

537
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: to guys like Dobbins and Edwards provided they're healthy, using

538
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 1: them out of the backfield too, but also Lamar running

539
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know what that's gonna lead to. They

540
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: felt like they revolutionized offense in the NFL and two

541
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. No one's ever had a season like that,

542
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: but the league, as you know, as adjusted, Yeah, it's

543
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: it's weird. I just saw Mike Davis on the in

544
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: the running back room. He's like, he's a good running back,

545
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: and yeah, the tight end out of Iowa State, he's

546
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 1: a good player. Jerry Well, those are guys they went after.

547
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: And obviously Kohler and likely are gonna be two guys

548
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: that will team up probably with Nick Boyle and Mark Andrews,

549
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: and at times they will use three tight ends. Sometimes

550
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: they might use four tight ends to help in blocking

551
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: situations in short yardage. As far as Mike Davis, yeah

552
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: he's a safety v right now in case Edwards and

553
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Dobbins aren't a hundred percent ready to go, but they

554
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: needed a third running back. They had Justice Hill around

555
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: for a while, he wasn't able to do it. They

556
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 1: drafted a kid named Tyler Batty who's looked pretty good

557
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: in the camp so far, but again he was like

558
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: a six or seventh round pick, so we don't know

559
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: what he can do until he really gets onto the field.

560
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: And this is also a team that really isn't gonna

561
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: play their players Jason a lot in the preseason. They

562
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: have no joint practices. They're declining that why the injury bug.

563
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,440
Speaker 1: They don't want anything to happen. After last season, all

564
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,479
Speaker 1: these guys got hurt in the preseason and before they

565
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: got to game number one they were so depleted. They

566
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: can't afford that. Again, I guess we could wrap up

567
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: on kind of a sad note to Jalen ferguson passing um.

568
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: I had read that it was, you know, he was

569
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: doing some drugs and somebody, I don't know if it

570
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: was who makes the fence at all in or whatever,

571
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: but you know, from from I'm just curious, from like

572
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: a locker room perspective, what what was he like and

573
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: what kind of blow is this to the team. Well,

574
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: that's a great question, and I'm looking forward to going

575
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 1: into an NFL locker room for the first time in

576
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: two years. So I never really got to meet the

577
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: guy except as we're doing it by zoom, because that's

578
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: the way the NFL has been operating the last couple

579
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: of years. So I think when we get into training camp,

580
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 1: we'll be able to get a beggar, uh, you know,

581
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: understanding of what he meant, how they honor him inside

582
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: the locker room. He was a guy who was, you know,

583
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: a couple of years into the NFL. Uh. It's interesting

584
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: because a couple of days right before that, Steve A. Schotti,

585
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: the owner, had given a speech to the team saying,

586
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: don't make moves, don't make headlines, we don't need drama

587
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: and all. That's the dangerous time of the year, as

588
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: you know for NFL. Players are out on the loose

589
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: right now, letting it loose before training camp. And he

590
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: was in a not so great part of town, overdosed

591
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: apparently on fentnel and cocaine leaves, behying a family and

592
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: even even worse, later that day we find out the

593
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: death of Tony Saragosa. So it was that same day

594
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 1: that we lost Tony Saragos. Here in Baltimore, who had

595
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: been a big fixture and uh, one of the saddest

596
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: days in Raven's history to tell you the truth and

597
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: what you had to ask about. How the team will

598
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: handle it. That's a great question because they're gonna come

599
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 1: back into that locker room for the first time. His

600
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: locker is gonna be empty, and we'll see how they,

601
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: you know, process all that, all right. Jerry Coleman, also

602
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: a tennis enthusiast, who you got is a tennis goat,

603
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: might as well go out on that question right Well,

604
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, Joker, I don't know when he's gonna win

605
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: his next but I think you have to consider him

606
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: number one. I know n Doll still has one more

607
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 1: than him. Those two are right up there. I love

608
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Roger Federer. I hope you can get back onto the court,

609
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: but right now you gotta lean towards Novak. It's funny

610
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: somebody had joked to me when I said on yesterday's

611
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: pod that, you know, I didn't really watch Wimbledon. I

612
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: like to play tennis and not sometimes I watched, but

613
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. And they were like, yeah, who

614
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 1: are you going to root for? The jerk or the

615
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: anti vaxer, and I was like, I hadn't thought about that.

616
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: I was like, jeez, I forgot ci Cira ghost? Is

617
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: that I say his name? Curios? Yeah, he likes to

618
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: yell at his own family a box for somewhere. I've

619
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: never seen anything like that. Kind of a dick, but

620
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: a good tennis player. Yeah, yeah, I mean he completely

621
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: lost his composure. When you're turning around during and between

622
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: points yelling at Jeromee Group, It's like, dude, you're in

623
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: the Wimbledon final. Attention Can can you act the part

624
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: just a little bit? You know? But it seems like

625
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: he wants attention, right, Oh, no doubt. I mean he's

626
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: Australia that the all seats like to talk. You know.

627
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 1: He'll be fun in New York City to make some waves.

628
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: He also has some off the court issues he's dealing

629
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Speaker 1: with as well. Oh gosh, I didn't even I was

630
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: not aware of that. That's probably for the better, all right,

631
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Speaker 1: Jerry Coleman good stuff continued success with the radio show

632
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: and everything in Baltimore. Thanks for having me, Jason