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Speaker 3: Over the last couple of years, the last couple of months,

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Speaker 3: I've seen you post a lot of stuff. You've gone

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Speaker 1: Dude, you ate no time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: We thought we'd start slowly, we get right, Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: I Uh, it's not something I ever thought would happen,

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Speaker 1: like a public divorce. Yeah, it's weird because when I,

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Speaker 1: Then that to be like throwing stones, and I don't

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Speaker 1: I'll never forget. We drove the This is two thousand

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Speaker 1: Come on, I'm holding my daughter. We took off and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if anything going to happen or not.

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Speaker 3: But did she ever did she call the cops or

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Speaker 1: I mean no, it was no, No, she didn't call

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Speaker 3: You do realize this is not normal that when someone

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Speaker 3: reach out. You know that's not normal. Gear, But she

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Speaker 1: Well, no, I wasn't. I tried to go on, excuse me, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I messed that one up. Like I'm not perfect. I

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Speaker 1: because you know, the divorce is like we're like somebody

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Speaker 1: has to be the bad guy, right, And for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: And for the longest time, I just I didn't say anything.

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Speaker 1: But I think now, like I'm so emotionally unattached to now,

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Speaker 1: What could go wrong on Covich?

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Speaker 2: How much?

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Speaker 1: How dotould go wrong here? Because she going respond, bro,

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Speaker 1: believe me, this is coming.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, how much do you

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm not saying I did everything right at all.

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Speaker 1: I'm not innocent here, but it's I'm not ever gonna

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Speaker 1: I think she knows all my indiscretions. I know hers,

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's gonna do anybody good for

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Speaker 1: me to like try to trash her. No, no, no, not

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Speaker 1: talk about things she did. Neither of us is perfect

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Speaker 1: So I'm just like, I guess she just felt the

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Speaker 1: I didn't do that. You're looking like that's all wrong.

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Speaker 3: What she wanted forty four thousand dollars a month. The

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Speaker 1: Do you think? I said, it didn't make it look

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Speaker 2: You're at You did you think? Like, how did she? Did?

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Speaker 1: Do the math on that forty four thousands a month

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Speaker 3: Just think of No, think about the time in which

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Speaker 1: like you got debt? Yeah, I took all of it

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Speaker 1: and it was a lot. I talked all of them.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get into it. But there was some other

431
00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,359
Speaker 1: stuff going on. There was taxes involved, irs involved, right,

432
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,359
Speaker 1: So I was like, we gotta sell it. We gotta

433
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,720
Speaker 1: pay these dudes off, you know what I mean. So

434
00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:13,640
Speaker 1: you know, but I made sure, Listen, I made sure

435
00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 1: when when everything was said and done and we went

436
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 1: to mediation, I was like, I'll take on the depth.

437
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,080
Speaker 1: I'll make sure you have enough alimony that you're good,

438
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,639
Speaker 1: You're really good by the way, and I was like,

439
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 1: I'll pay, I'll pay your first year of rent when

440
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,000
Speaker 1: you get a new place. And we put a number

441
00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,359
Speaker 1: on it and it was a lot. This ain't like

442
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 1: eight a month. It was a lot. Right, So I

443
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 1: was like, I got you. I was. I'm just trying

444
00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 1: to make.

445
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 2: Sure at this point time you try to keep the peace.

446
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: All the dudes keep the peace, and I want everybody

447
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,320
Speaker 1: be comfortable. I don't listen. I'm not vindictive. I'm not

448
00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 1: mad I get into love and war, but I was.

449
00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,120
Speaker 1: I was. I feel like I was very generous, you know.

450
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,880
Speaker 2: Saying, looking at it, I could be wrong. You didn't

451
00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: have a pre nup.

452
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 1: Hey, no, we didn't have a prenup?

453
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,199
Speaker 3: No, why would Why didn't you because you're already a comedian.

454
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 3: You was already making even if you was making fifty

455
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 3: dollars a show, you was already making money. Don't you

456
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 3: want to be like if I come into a situation,

457
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 3: this is the way I look at it. And I've

458
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,760
Speaker 3: always I tell my homeboys there, I asked them, do

459
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 3: they have a prenup? They say no, they say, I

460
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 3: ain't got no money. I say, when I leave, I

461
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: want all of my nothing I don't going fifty percent

462
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 3: of my nothing, So darret you already. Let's just say,

463
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: for the sake of argument, when you started you making

464
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars a show. Yeah, you're doing three four

465
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 3: shows a week. That's eight hundred dollars. Like you said,

466
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: multiply that time a month, at times a year, times

467
00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: away up.

468
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 2: Why would you not stupid?

469
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: What do you know what I'm saying?

470
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: Stupid?

471
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 3: That's what love would do on my part. Would you

472
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 3: get married again?

473
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, not in California.

474
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 2: Would you have a prenup?

475
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 1: Without question, it's gonna be pre pre pre prenup. And

476
00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: there's no argument there because anytime you do a prenup,

477
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 1: it's like the man's point of view, yes, and the

478
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 1: woman's point of view is, well, it's like you're setting

479
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 1: us up to break up now, like and the man's

480
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: point of view is a proved food to me. You

481
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: really love me, you know so? Yeah, the prenup is

482
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 1: a required thing now you learn over time.

483
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't.

484
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 3: I don't get insurance on my car to go rear

485
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: in a T B one somebody, but.

486
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: It's nice to have it.

487
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: I ain't lining about that.

488
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 3: You did a reality show, do you regret doing that

489
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 3: show and bringing people into your lives.

490
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 1: No, that was fun. That was fun. And now the

491
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: state of mat with my kids, it's like I have

492
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 1: at least I have a timestamp. I can always go

493
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,879
Speaker 1: back and watch that stage of their life. And you know,

494
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 1: because we got we got footage of them at fifteen

495
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 1: fourteen years old, you know what I mean. So I

496
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: don't regret that at all. And then you know, they

497
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 1: everybody got a everybody got paid. My kids got a

498
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: trust out of it that we put their money away.

499
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: They have it later on. So everything. Yeah, I don't

500
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: regret it worked out. I thought, yeah, it would have been

501
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: nice to have more seasons, right, but it was. It

502
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: was cool. I don't regret at all.

503
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 2: Bowl renewals Do they work?

504
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: Because you saw we had one.

505
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 3: I just as I'm just asking, I'm just I'm just

506
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: asking your research team, is.

507
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,800
Speaker 2: Do they work? And why did they do?

508
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:18,239
Speaker 1: Is that?

509
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 3: Is that a man's thing or is that a woman thing?

510
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 3: Is that something jointly who wanted to say, let's renew

511
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 3: our vowels? Well, our wedding was jacked up?

512
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: What happened?

513
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 2: Tell us what happened at the wedding.

514
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 1: So we got We got married at the If anybody

515
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: knows Oakland, the first am in Oakland, it's the Black Church, right,

516
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm sure we'll get into my my

517
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: upbringing eventually. So first of all, we'll give to the wedding.

518
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 1: And I'm worried because my stepdad and my real dad

519
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 1: don't get along. And I'm sweating this right and I'm

520
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 1: going I got a bad I had a bad feeling

521
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 1: the whole time. We get to the way. First of all,

522
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 1: preacher walked out. He was like, I don't do it.

523
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna start on time. So wadn's supposed to start three?

524
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: I guess we were it's like three point thirty. Yeah,

525
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,360
Speaker 1: he just left, like he said, I left, I might

526
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: not be married. I got a check it. So her

527
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 1: like cousin Melvin worked to ups I guess he's ordained.

528
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: He did it. He did the wedding.

529
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 3: So the the official path, Yeah, that's supposed to preside

530
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 3: over the ceremony because you were late.

531
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm up out of here, Ducer.

532
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 1: I was late.

533
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: You know, I wasn't late. But John Elway.

534
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,280
Speaker 1: Relate to practice.

535
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 2: No, he wasn't. Okay, I bet you steeve that water

536
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,640
Speaker 2: was so somebody showed up late.

537
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: Obviously the woman shows up late, but but you know,

538
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,719
Speaker 1: it tasted him a little longer. Yeah, of course nobody's

539
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: mad about that. But clearly he left. He was double booked.

540
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 1: He had another wedding.

541
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 2: The other wedding, the pay a little bit more y.

542
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he leaves. So I'm like, all right, we

543
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: get through that, another big deal. Then we get to

544
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: the reception. Bakery drops our cake. We got a five

545
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: tier cake. The lady I gu a slip that went down, so,

546
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,879
Speaker 1: you know, the bride and room getting announced. We sit

547
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,800
Speaker 1: behind his door for like forty five minutes. I'm like,

548
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: what is going on. I don't realize. Everybody clean up

549
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: the cake on the reception floor. They said she dipped

550
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 1: it right in front of the wedding table. Oh my god,

551
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 1: so it just went out. So then we're getting ready

552
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: to do the bouquet and the garter, and the bar

553
00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: was in the other room. I grabbed my brother Dallas.

554
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: I said, let's go have a drink real quick. So

555
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: we in there just having a drink and then I

556
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: hear there's a fight, and I went I already knew

557
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 1: what it was I go out there. My stepdad's getting

558
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: dragged out.

559
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,680
Speaker 2: My biological dad's doing.

560
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: This, and I was like, what happened? And they was

561
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: like they got a fight, Like not a fight, but

562
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,880
Speaker 1: my stepdad sucker punched my real dad at the wedding. Right.

563
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: So then finally the next day I seen my stepdad.

564
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what happened? Because the reception is basically

565
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: over at that point, right he goes he looked at me, funny,

566
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,719
Speaker 1: I said what I said? He didn't say nothing. Now

567
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: he looked at me. Funny. I was like, you hit

568
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,919
Speaker 1: him because he looked at you, because no, he wentn't

569
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: normal face. It wasn't a normal face. He looked at

570
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: me like I wasn't around with Garrett's going up, you're

571
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: white before you and and something else, and I'm still

572
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: at the wady ha ha. I said, damn, he said

573
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: all that in the face. So that's a hell of

574
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,920
Speaker 1: a face. I never seen a face like that. Wasn't

575
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: face face that So that was a That's really why

576
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: we wanted the valven and we did it on the

577
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: reality show because I always felt like she didn't get

578
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: the wedding that she wanted. So when BT came with

579
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: the reality show. We were like, well, let's do the pilot.

580
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,679
Speaker 1: Was the valve ended up being the last episode, but

581
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 1: that was the pilot, and so yeah, that was it

582
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: was cool. It was cool.

583
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 3: Did you think after everything that transpired, did you make

584
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: it seventeen years?

585
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 1: No?

586
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, visits too, Yeah, you kind of doing them from

587
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: the star Well, I'm doing I.

588
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: Was doing for various reasons. If I if I'm self

589
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: analyzing myself and not to put blame on everybody, I'll

590
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: shout out to Amanda and Monique. Sorry, couldn't help us up.

591
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 2: That was too easy.

592
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Comedians with list. If you're a comedian you

593
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: get offended my stuff and you say you wouldn't wrong

594
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: a lot of work, you know, you set yourself up.

595
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: But anyways, I wasn't equipped and I got married. Honestly,

596
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: looking back, I just wanted to quip a terrible upbringing.

597
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: Didn't know how to like tell myself I'm enough, and

598
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,160
Speaker 1: at the same time, going through all this self evaluation,

599
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: I meet my ex and then we're you know, now,

600
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay, I could probably be a decent dad.

601
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: I could probably do this, and then I get on

602
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,680
Speaker 1: BT I'm starting to get attention now from women and

603
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: I never got before. So now you're you're in rooms,

604
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: rinse situations and women are coming at you, and I'm

605
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: in my twenties. It's a little different.

606
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: Just say no, huh, just say no. But I pray.

607
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: You don't have to remember that. Say that. Pray.

608
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: Just say no to them tossing your salad. Pause, no,

609
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: Diddy again, Sorry going too far. I'm going it's the liquor,

610
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: that's what That's what it is.

611
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: But it's but the social media aspect of it, because

612
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, a party, you wants to defend yourself, but

613
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 3: then you know, you just add fuel to the fires

614
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: all you do if you do. But how hard was

615
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: it for you? Because she like bru she would she would.

616
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: She was coming, Yeah, yeah, she was coming. Yeah. I

617
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: just shut up because I was like, one, I didn't

618
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: want to get on social media till somebody got served

619
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking she's like inspector gadget. I was like,

620
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: she was knowing stuff that I was like, how did

621
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 1: she notice? You know? So I was like I just

622
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: stayed on social media. I just got quiet, And this

623
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: is what this is. When I knew social media is

624
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: in real life, and I you know, I think with

625
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: my ex she really reads the comments and takes from

626
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: the heart. Why don't you know? And she does. And

627
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 1: I would always tell he don't read the comments the

628
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: social media. It's just adding fuel the fire. So I

629
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: think with her it helped her because people were like,

630
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm on your side, Geary, ain't. I also hurt her

631
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: because then when people try to come to her, she's

632
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: trying to defend herself. So as far as like social

633
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: media goes, I just stay quiet. I'll never forget. I

634
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: was in Baltimore after I've been in I've been in

635
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: the hotel for like five days at this point, right

636
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: before my first show, after everything at the fan, I

637
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: got nothing to do but read social media. So I'm

638
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: sitting there, I'm gonna you know, I'm gonna cheat here

639
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: and all this. I'm like, all right, I say in Baltimore,

640
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: huh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm hey. You know I'm not

641
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: saying hey, but you know, uh, I'm about forty five

642
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: minutes into my set in Baltimore and this laid in

643
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: the back goes a lovely little cheap You don't know

644
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: how bad I need to hear that right now, because

645
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: I'm think I'm gonna say I'm about to get booed

646
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: right because I'm reading this for five days, I'm thinking

647
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: they're about to hate me. Social social med had me

648
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: thinking I'm not invited to cookouts black people hate me,

649
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: don't leave, And then I get on stage. It's like,

650
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: I love your chat. I told that, lady. I said,

651
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: you don't know how bad I need to hear that

652
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: right now? You know so, But to hear that you're

653
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: a deadbeat? What's your relationship with your kids right now?

654
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't have one. It's been three three and a

655
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: half years. Really, yeah, how hard is that for you?

656
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: What do you think?

657
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: It's a nightmare. It's like it's like they're my greatest

658
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: accomplishments and my greatest failure at the same time. Because

659
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 1: my daughter graduated Summa cum Loudey from her school, going

660
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: to grad school, doing thing. My son's working with kids,

661
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: and to hear how they talk about him, they love him,

662
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: he's paid, you know, he's I haven't seen him. So

663
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: back in November, I was back in the Bay where

664
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: he lives. So I went through his job just to

665
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 1: lay eyes on him because I hadn't seen him in

666
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: so long, so I didn't tell him I was coming.

667
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I fell back. I blended him with the other parents,

668
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: and then uh, because he's working with kids. And then uh,

669
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: I just got to see him amongst you know, in

670
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: his in his element. And so I went on my

671
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: podcast and I said, yeah, I got to see my son.

672
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: It was nice, and I said, I'm proud of him.

673
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: It's doing good, you know. And I had a part

674
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: in that. And then our oldest, but we don't we

675
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 1: don't say step but our oldest. You know, he's living

676
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: back in Ohio, got a house, got a girl, just working,

677
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,200
Speaker 1: doing his thing. So as far as like success, I

678
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: have three kids. Never got a phone call ever when

679
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: they was in school, there was a problem, never had

680
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: a problem meeting friends, never, they were never out wild.

681
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: And so we did our job as parents. But to

682
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: see how it's just crashed and burned since of divorce,

683
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: and this is all since of divorce.

684
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 3: Do you believe she played a role in the vibe

685
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 3: with your kids.

686
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: I'll say I'll take the blame because I didn't. I

687
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: didn't ensure that my relationship with them was so strong

688
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: that no matter what anybody said to them, they could

689
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: be like, no, my dad's good. So you know, I

690
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: was gone a lot on the road, right, And that's

691
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: part of there the week. Man, I don't I don't.

692
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I don't want to. I don't

693
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: want to throw stones and stuff. I don't know. I

694
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: don't know if she's at the house and your daddy,

695
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I do know. Blaspheming on

696
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: social media didn't help. And then others happened. We'll get

697
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: into a little bit where my real dad didn't help.

698
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: There's other things, but it was just like I just

699
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: don't know where it got so bad, you know what

700
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean that I'm just the like literally like the

701
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: worst human being on the planet, and I'm it's funny.

702
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: I ran into my ex last week of always on

703
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: the plane. I want a plane from Atlanta to Cincinnati.

704
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: Come on, Garrett, I ain't got no ready to lie now.

705
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: I just said, I cheat it. That's been the big

706
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: that's been the freaking elephant in the rooms. I got

707
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: nothing to hot anymore. So I'm sitting there and I'm

708
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 1: still on a plane. I go, anyway, this is happening, anyway.

709
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: That's happening.

710
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: I went like I mean, I was. I was in

711
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: the window, like you like a kid, So she didn't

712
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: see me. When she got on a plane, we go

713
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,239
Speaker 1: to Badge game, she sees me. She comes up. We

714
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: start talking and uh. And that's when I was like,

715
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, I said, I'm just kind of asking her, like,

716
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: you know, how do we get this right with the kids.

717
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: And then I wish I keep telling her like, look,

718
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: when they call, I'm there. I don't care if I

719
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: got to show them cancel at the minute they say, Dad,

720
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm ready to talk. I'm out. I'll go to where

721
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: they're at. So when I when I talked to her

722
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: about the kids, you know, I told her, I said,

723
00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: I just I wish you would help. It's time. It's

724
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: time because they do listen to you. Yes, enough, there

725
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: ain't there's no abuse here. There's no mental abuse, there's

726
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: no physical abuse. They had a great childhood, great private school.

727
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: Pay for my daughter's college. I mean, just stuff you're

728
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: supposed to do if you have it as a dad,

729
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I'm just like, I

730
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 1: don't know how I became this evil human being that

731
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: they want nothing to do with. I was like, obviously

732
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: I'm not perfect. I read somewhere that somebody said, when

733
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: you go through the divorce, when kids are little, they

734
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: idolize their dad, and then when divorce happens, they demonize them,

735
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,359
Speaker 1: and then as time goes by, they humanize them. Clearly,

736
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,399
Speaker 1: I'm in the demon stage right now, but it's been

737
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: it's just been so long that I got to sneak

738
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: around to try to just lay eyes on them. Like

739
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: when the Bengals went to Super Bowl, right, I got tickets,

740
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: so I called. I texted both of them because they

741
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: when I call, it won't answers. I got a text

742
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: sometimes the response so they don't. So it's like, I

743
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: got tickets, I got four, you guys want to go?

744
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: And they was both like no, So I was like damn.

745
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: And then definitely just no. Not love with dad. I

746
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: had other plans that got other rais ain't ain't. I

747
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: ain't gonna say what they said, but it wasn't pretty.

748
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: And then I said. I flew to Greensboro where my

749
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: daughter was in school, and knocked on her door and

750
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: she wouldn't answer the door. And then my exident was

751
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: calling and was like, my role marriages with me. She

752
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: didn't know he's with me. She called my road Marriges,

753
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: and she was like, why is he at the door?

754
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: Why is he at the door.

755
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: So she's looking at the door and to slee.

756
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: No, my daughter called saying, So she's like, why is

757
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: why is he at the door? Yeah, and he's like

758
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 1: he's just trying to see her. She says, no, no,

759
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: it's not time. She's not ready. She she said, write

760
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: a letter and put in the mail.

761
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 2: I go, what does people still write letters?

762
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: This ain't nineteen eighty five, you know what I mean? Yes,

763
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: So that happened. Then I found out she was flying.

764
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: I found out one of her flights. One time. I

765
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: ran in there at the air and I was like,

766
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: I kept my distance. I didn't run up on her.

767
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: And I waved and she waved back, and I was like, oh,

768
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: I want to have a shot here. And then she

769
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: dipped in the bathroom and at forty five minutes, I

770
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: waited and she never came out, and I just went

771
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: So I left. And then when I went through her graduation, yeah,

772
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: they made it very clear, don't come up, don't talk

773
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: to her, don't approach her or nothing like that. I

774
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: was like, so, I don't know how at this point

775
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how to reconcile the relationship. I'm just

776
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 1: I'm just letting them know that I love them, I'm

777
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: proud of them, And whenever they call, I don't care

778
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: where I'm at. I'm there. I've told him, I said,

779
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 1: I said, you know, you wanna go to Hawaii, you wanna

780
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: go Dubai where you want to go because we can go.

781
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 1: We can go somewhere so far away and just sit

782
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 1: down and have it out. So I literally don't know

783
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 1: what to do at this point.

784
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: When you're looking at the relationship that you currently have

785
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,680
Speaker 3: with your kids, how much of your mind replay relationship

786
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 3: that you had with your biological father.

787
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: We didn't really have one growing up. He wasn't around

788
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: too much. He just kind of popped in and out. So,

789
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: like I said, I had an absentee father, an abuseome stepfather.

790
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: So that's a that's not good. I didn't know how

791
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: to be a dad. So, like I said, I don't

792
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 1: want to trash my my ex because when we first

793
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: got together, she had a son, and I literally was

794
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: like came home and dare I said, I'm gonna break up?

795
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,239
Speaker 1: And she goes, what do you mean? You just like

796
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: I just moved in with her. She was like, you

797
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: just moved in. I said, I'm scared that your son

798
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: is going to look at me like I look at

799
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: my stepdad, and I'm scared I'm going to turn into him.

800
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,919
Speaker 1: And she was like she does. Don't worry about it.

801
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: She was just follow my lead, tell me. I'll tell

802
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,479
Speaker 1: you what to do and if you're going wrong, and

803
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: that's all you got to do. So I think that's

804
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: what I did for a lot of the relationship. I

805
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: just kind of did what she said when I was

806
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 1: home and didn't like try to rock the boat. But yeah,

807
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: it scared me. But yeah, my my biological dad, he's

808
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: a bag. Hey god damn dude, I'm so mad that

809
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: came out his nut sacked that.

810
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: But you gotta have but hold on. Yeah, you're gonna

811
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 2: have to reconcile because.

812
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 3: With him, Yes, nah, br Forgiveness is not for him,

813
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: it is for you.

814
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: Look how you talking. Your emotions are being here hostage.

815
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 3: You're not free free from that that you're not free

816
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 3: from your emotions.

817
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: Ma, I mean, ah, this is okay. This is a

818
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: relationship with with my real dad. So won around a

819
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: lot growing up and then he pop up every now

820
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: and then, and then you know, there was countless sundays

821
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: You're waiting on me. It doesn't show up right, and

822
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: then get older, get on TV, getting a couple of movies. Also,

823
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: he's coming around a little bit. Yeah, you know, he's

824
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,240
Speaker 1: wanting all the perks because always said, like I always

825
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:00,359
Speaker 1: heard people like, be care man, you have people out

826
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 1: there using you. I didn't realized it was my dad

827
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: the whole time because I'm blinded because I'm on the

828
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: relationship with my dad. Right. So, during the course of

829
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: the divorce, at one point nobody was served yet. I

830
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: flew home to Cincinnati. I want to go to a redsigame.

831
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 1: I gotta do something, but I can't sit in the stands.

832
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm scared I'm gonna get served. So I got to

833
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: rep the works for the Reds. He got a sweep

834
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: for me, not in my name. I paid for it.

835
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: I called my buddy. Five six guys came. We had

836
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 1: a good day at the ballpark. Nobody took pictures, nobody

837
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: to social media posts. We just hung out. Next morning,

838
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: seven seventeen in the morning, I wake up. I got

839
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: a voicemail from my dad. He's like, hey, your dad,

840
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: and you don't respect me. And he's just cussing me,

841
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: cussing me out, tell me I don't respect him, and

842
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: said I'm out of your life. And is he intoxicated

843
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: this in the morning. This is seven seventeen in the morning.

844
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: Now he don't drink like that. So I was like,

845
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: what does He never said why he's bad. So I

846
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: get a text about an hour later, and it's like

847
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: a book. He's like, I heard you came to Reds game.

848
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: You didn't invite me. I come to expect this behavior

849
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: from you. My other kids keep me in their lives.

850
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 1: You don't. I'm going this over a Reds game. So

851
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: I called him and when I called him, I met

852
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,359
Speaker 1: He was like, Dad, I got your voicemail, I got

853
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: your text, and he goes, yeah, I meant every word

854
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,359
Speaker 1: of it. I was like, this ain't gonna go well.

855
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: So we started to talk and it's getting heated all right,

856
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: and the like a week before I came home, so

857
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: I got two identical twin sisters. They did like a

858
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 1: family photo shoot and nobody called and invited me. But

859
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: that's normal with that side, right. So because I wasn't

860
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: in the house with them, my sister was so much

861
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: younger than me, so I wasn't tripping. But I was like,

862
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: I would have been cool if someone would have called,

863
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: But I wasn't tripping. So when the course of him

864
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: cuts me out over Red's game, I said, Dad, you

865
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 1: took family pictures and didn't even invite me, And he goes, oh,

866
00:40:56,239 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: I knew this was coming. That's when I that's why

867
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: I that's all the time. I snapped. I said, you

868
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: your wife, family homie, and hung up on him. And

869
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: that's the last conversation we had. Then this we'll see

870
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: what he did. He start calling my ex that he

871
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: wanted nothing to do with but on my side there

872
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: in the divorce, start giving on his dirt on me

873
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: all his day and he's posting it on his Facebook page,

874
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: posted feet. Then he posts a picture of my ex

875
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: wife on his Facebook page and was like, I got

876
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: you back to this divorce. He's always been like a

877
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: daughter to me. He don't even like black people. He's

878
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 1: a Trumpet thumper. Now trump support a trump or thumper.

879
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 1: I ain't saying. I ain't saying he went to the Capitol,

880
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: he was at the monument, he made the trip. But

881
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: now he wants support a black woman.

882
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 3: I will say this and I leave it alone. And

883
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: it's the same implies for your kids. That could never

884
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: be freedom without forgiveness. Gilly, your kids are not free either.

885
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,359
Speaker 2: They're gonna come a time they will and promise you.

886
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: Was I wrong?

887
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 3: No, you wasn't wrong. But just because you wasn't wrong

888
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: in that instant, that doesn't mean you can't.

889
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 2: Make it right.

890
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: How do you make it right there?

891
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 2: Maybe it's gonna take time, you think, I think so.

892
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: But here's the thing.

893
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: I think he has this perception of you, like you said,

894
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 3: because once you became someone he could excrapolate something from you.

895
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: You have this and rightfully so, him bouncing in and

896
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 3: out of your life, never being there being the father

897
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: that you wanted. Little do you know you became that

898
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: guy even though that was your occupation. Came one guy

899
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 3: wasn't there because you're on the road so much with

900
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 3: your kids, right, and they look at you the same

901
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 3: way you look at your father.

902
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: Interesting, that's how they're looking at you.

903
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 3: But it was so I think he was there about see,

904
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 3: like you said, you put him through private school, you

905
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 3: pay for college. Those are the sacrifices that you have

906
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 3: to make some time that you miss out on.

907
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: But I did listen. I never missed the birthday. I

908
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: never missed a game. I made sure like there was

909
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: time laying if they had a game. And I'm my

910
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: flying problem. I'm flying commercial. I'm getting up in the morning,

911
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 1: getting to an and sometimes driving to an airport that

912
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: had a hub. So I'm driving like two three hours

913
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: to get through airport so I can get a direct

914
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: flight to get to Cincinnati so I can make the

915
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: game and then get back to my show that night.

916
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: I go because I know what it's like to look

917
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: in the stands and I see your daddy. I know

918
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: what it's like to have like a recital nacier, So

919
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: I didn't miss stuff like that, like so to say

920
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: like I did everything in my power not to become him,

921
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 1: for to hear like they look they think at me

922
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: like that. That was my biggest fear having kids, right,

923
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: it's to feel how I feel about my daddy and

924
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: my stepdaddy. We ain't gotten to that yet. That is

925
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: my biggest fear. So to have it play out like this,

926
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: it was my worst nightmare.

927
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:00,640
Speaker 2: Help me understand.

928
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 3: I'm want to see if this is true, because I

929
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: read this, your former show opener told your wife about

930
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 3: some of the indiscretions you were having on the road.

931
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 2: Yep, that really reallygy.

932
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing, Like, I get why Kevin

933
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: keeps the plastic cup boys, I get why Cat keeps

934
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: people around them. And I'm not talking about the high

935
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: secrets like cheating. I'm not talking about that. I'm just

936
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: talking about those dudes. You gotta trust because you're with

937
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: them more than your family had. You got to get

938
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: along with them, You got to be able to open

939
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: up to them, like I'm having issues at the house.

940
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: Those are like your therapists on the road. So this

941
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: dude that I fired in twenty eighteen when my divorce happens,

942
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: the fact that he called her and they start talking

943
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: and he started telling her dirt about me. I was like,

944
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: because we man, we's a mediation. This is like, this

945
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: is like a movie. We a mediation. And she goes, yeah,

946
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: lick Gary about the girls. I ain't mad about that.

947
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: And then she goes she started naming off these girls

948
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: and some were right and some are wrong, but there's

949
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: one in particular. I went, wait a minute, I didn't move.

950
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: She said, I know about this so I'm making up

951
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: a name I know about Sally. I'm going with the

952
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:22,720
Speaker 1: white name because you know it ain't true. She said,

953
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: I know about Sally. She goes this dude, She goes,

954
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: he told me you fired him because you found out

955
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: he slept with her, and I went so here I am.

956
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: I'm just making movements. At this point, I go because

957
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute. So now it's hitting me. Wow,

958
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 1: she found out about this girl. That is like I'm talking,

959
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: this was years ago. I'm going through my brolodex. See

960
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: when she said the name, like, I'm like, oh my god,

961
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: what And then she goes, yeah, he said you fired

962
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: him because you found out he slept with her too.

963
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: So now I'm sitting like, wait a minute. She knows

964
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: I slept with this girl, and I didn't know my

965
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 1: opener slept with the too. So women this one mama

966
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: back right, it's so tight you can kill the soprano's flag.

967
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 1: So I was like, oh yeah, so I well, I'm

968
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,839
Speaker 1: not even gonna say his name. He don't deserve it.

969
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: And you know it had to be he had to

970
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 3: have told because at the time she didn't bring it up.

971
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: She didn't mention anything. About it, so she couldn't have known.

972
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: Here's the only one that knews.

973
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: There was some information only he and I knew, right,

974
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: So I was like, but that's why he's at where

975
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: he's in his career right now? Is he find him

976
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: at a coffee shop near you?

977
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 3: Is it hard being on the road and a lot

978
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: of the time you travel alone and women, like you said,

979
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:38,919
Speaker 3: they come up.

980
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: Eight But that's Gary.

981
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: Oh he's great.

982
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 3: He's been in the movie YadA, YadA, YadA, And you know,

983
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: you're like, well, you know, boy, g you know what

984
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 3: what it dow? Yeah?

985
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: Does that get hard? Does when you say hard? Yes?

986
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: What gets hard?

987
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: Shot? It does? Does he get hard to say?

988
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 1: No?

989
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 2: It does?

990
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: Yes. It's not the easiest, especially when you grew up

991
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 1: like I did. Were I didn't. I didn't have attention, right,

992
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,400
Speaker 1: I didn't have nobody tell me I'm great, right, you know,

993
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: so they get to get people like they like me, and.

994
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 2: Then damn the reasons.

995
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, whoa, I never got attention like this,

996
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: and that's you know, yeah, so it's I would I

997
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: would tell you even similar to the ball players and stuff.

998
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I would never I would tell

999
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: women never get made of anybody in the twenties in

1000
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: the entertainment or athlete or anything I go. They got

1001
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: to get out of their system. They gotta let them

1002
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,080
Speaker 1: get out their systems. It's just too much access to things,

1003
00:47:37,160 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think it's it's

1004
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: easier the older you get, but man, your twenties, Yeah,

1005
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: that's hard. Now great, So how do you meet? How

1006
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: to keep this is what I'm trying to do. I'm

1007
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 1: trying to keep everything on social media because the way

1008
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 1: it played out, because I'm seeing somebody, but I don't.

1009
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to blast it

1010
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: like that, right because the internet's not good for a relationship.

1011
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 1: And you know, until I'm right with my kids, I

1012
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: ain't posting nothing else cause I feel like it's almost

1013
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: thrown in her face a little bit. I want. I

1014
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: want to be right with them, and then maybe I'll

1015
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: be open to sharing my person.

1016
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,280
Speaker 3: She okay with that, because a lot of times women

1017
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 3: want to be posted that Hey, you hiding me because

1018
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 3: you don't want nobody else to see. But you're doing

1019
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 3: this for another reason, a very good reason. Yeah, is

1020
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 3: she okay with this?

1021
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: She's okay? Yeah, I don't think she's tripping bring up

1022
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: every now and then, but it's not like she's harping on.

1023
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: She gets it. She gets it.

1024
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 3: There's this thing that's going going around. What's an idea

1025
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 3: first day? Is it fifty to fifty? You take care

1026
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 3: of everything. You gotta go to a restaurant that you know,

1027
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 3: even if you get the most minor thing is gonna

1028
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: be two fifty three hundred. What's an idea first day?

1029
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: Yeah? Just I mean that's the top off the top.

1030
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 1: You said, ideal that don't coast no money.

1031
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: That's what you want at the.

1032
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: End of the day. The ideal for a day for

1033
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: a man is j just does it?

1034
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: How mean you got? I mean, okay, how much you

1035
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: need after? How much?

1036
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 3: How much your the first day costs? If you go

1037
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 3: out to eat, you take a lady out for a

1038
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 3: first day, how much did it cost?

1039
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 1: You know? It depends on how much you make. If

1040
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: you only make a certain amount of money, you can't

1041
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: take her to Prime one twelve or mass stros. That's

1042
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: just not the budget, right, you know what I mean?

1043
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: So I think women have expectations and it is depending

1044
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: on how much that man makes. In the status there's

1045
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 1: a level of expectation and what they're used to dating, right,

1046
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So I don't. I don't.

1047
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: I think that's like that's a loaded question. So I

1048
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: don't know. Just man, that's good. Women's got a different answer,

1049
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: but the guy's ideal. First day?

1050
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: Did you? Were you always attracted the black women? Always?

1051
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: It's like being gay, Okay, guys know they're gay, why

1052
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 1: they're gay. They don't know why they're gay. They're this

1053
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: game right, same way. I always liked from Birst.

1054
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 2: So how I mean, how was it growing up where

1055
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 2: you grew up?

1056
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: Lonely? My hands were soft and very moisturized. Tell you

1057
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: that I was.

1058
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 2: I was a base.

1059
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 3: I'm ambidextrious on that. So when you first, when you

1060
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 3: were first approached a black black lady, female woman, I mean,

1061
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: we got we gotta be careful what we say here.

1062
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: Some people don't like being called female. They don't be

1063
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 3: called called women when you're a post like woman. What

1064
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: did she say?

1065
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: Which one of the first black girls are probably the bear.

1066
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 2: First, the very first one.

1067
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1068
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: Were you nervous you're telling me.

1069
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: A friend on the sliver of the back girl? Yeah, yeah,

1070
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: it was. It was crazy because I was in DC.

1071
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: I was stationary, was in the Navy, and remember we

1072
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 1: went over her place and I've never seen hips move

1073
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: like that. Bro, Like she's gonna swell in my hand.

1074
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, how are you? We

1075
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: was so fast. I was very inquisitive. He asked questions.

1076
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: But it was so dope because when we got done,

1077
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: it was so random.

1078
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 2: The things you remember.

1079
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: So we got done, it was just like she wing

1080
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: got some orangs shoes, brought me some ore shoes, some

1081
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 1: more shoes. I was like this, Oh my god. I

1082
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 1: felt like the guy in the Harlem Knights come home.

1083
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 2: I've never cut a hole.

1084
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was wild.

1085
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 2: That was a wild night. And from that point on,

1086
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: but I knew what I knew before that.

1087
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: I knew I like black women. This is I don't know.

1088
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: I just like, have you ever been with a white woman?

1089
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:40,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Ninety six met her the teacher that Fridays and

1090
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: she only messed with black dudes. Friends of this day.

1091
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: How she's at the Friday's had a happy hour, Yes, and

1092
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: uh she was sitting there, but she had she had

1093
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: a haircut. The white girls like black haircut. Yeah, it's

1094
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: like an asymmetrical, Bob. You know, just go to any

1095
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 1: summers I know you're talking about.

1096
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 2: I know exactly what you're talk about.

1097
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:05,439
Speaker 1: You'll see them at the Atlanta Hawks game. You ain't

1098
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: gona see what you told Jazz. So we started, we

1099
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: started talking, and then you know, I do this in

1100
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: my actor I don't want to start doing bits on

1101
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: your show. But long story short, the only reason she

1102
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: came back to my place was to prove that I

1103
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: couldn't handle a white girl. And the only reason I

1104
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: let her come back I want to prove she han't

1105
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: read for this white dude. And so it was the

1106
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 1: It was. It was cool, it was a good experience.

1107
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: But when I say, there was no four blay, there

1108
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: was no emotions involved. It was like bing bing bing,

1109
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: and like I and then we like, well we did it.

1110
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 2: You don't know the white dude.

1111
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: I never have been a white girl. So we tried it.

1112
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 2: And so now you got y'all.

1113
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 1: Still she found me on Facebook years later, got two

1114
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: mixed kids. I got. I knew it. I knew she

1115
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: wan't like black dudes because this is like my early twenties, right,

1116
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: so I knew it. We're still friends of this day.

1117
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 1: Now friends, I mean acquaintances on face. She got to

1118
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: hold me on Facebook, like when Facebook was just friends,

1119
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: there wasn't a fan page. So it's just it's funny

1120
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: because I mean we type every now and then and

1121
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 1: say what's up. She's cool?

1122
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: When how did your family react when they found out

1123
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,760
Speaker 3: you liked black women?

1124
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: Like I ain't cool with them like that? So I

1125
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: wim mom either, I don't talk to my mom either.

1126
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: Nobody, no, no, you just your dad, your mom, brother.

1127
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 1: I know I've sound like a man of seals right

1128
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 1: now your hair, but sorry, and I don't know man,

1129
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to bag her like that, but it's whatever. Yeah,

1130
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: Mom's different though, Like I feel bad for my mom.

1131
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: She's just been beat down by life. And I told

1132
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: her numerous times, like I could, I could help you

1133
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: and get you out of this. You just gotta leave

1134
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 1: that dude hurt my stepdad, and she won't leave him.

1135
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: So last time I saw my mom was May twentieth,

1136
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, because my brother died. My brother died

1137
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: made twenty two fifteen of a heroin overdose, and so

1138
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know one. I didn't How do I start

1139
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: this conversation because I got to talk about my brother

1140
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: to get to my mom a. So when my I

1141
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: didn't know my brother was doing heroin. So this is

1142
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: this is how life works. Like the universe. Man, it

1143
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: picks you up and then it humbles you at the

1144
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: same time. So I'm coming off think like a man.

1145
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: I'm starting to sell a lot of tickets now, so

1146
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm making more money than ever had, and career is

1147
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: really starting to take off. And then Ride Along comes out.

1148
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,040
Speaker 1: So now in the course of like a year and

1149
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: a half, I'm in two number one movies in the

1150
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,359
Speaker 1: country and and right along to have a big scene.

1151
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: But I have seen it stuck out, you know, So

1152
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: life's good. My brother calls me first. He messes me

1153
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 1: on Facebook because he never had a cell phone. I

1154
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: know it is because drug AICs not good with money.

1155
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 1: I don't ifi knew that. So he calls me first.

1156
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: He messed me on Facebook. He goes, Gary, I'm about

1157
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: to call you from this number. It's my girlfriend's number.

1158
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: I was like, okay. He goes, I need your help,

1159
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: and I said, let me guess money, and I remember

1160
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 1: he texted me. He goes, he goes, I'll punch in

1161
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: your I'll never ask you for a dime. And I

1162
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 1: was like, what is the problem here? So I called him.

1163
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,399
Speaker 1: He's crying on the phone. I don't know he's about

1164
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: to shoot up. He can't stop himself. So he's like,

1165
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: I don't know it was my daughter. He's crying. I

1166
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,919
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. He's like, Gary, I don't

1167
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: want to die. I got this little girl. I can't

1168
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: stop myself. And then the phone goes dead and I go,

1169
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on right now. I call

1170
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: right back. His girlfriend answers and she goes, he just

1171
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 1: shot up. So I could hear my brother moaning in

1172
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: the background. So I was like, I said, what do

1173
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,400
Speaker 1: you mean shot up? She goes, he's heroin. I was like, what,

1174
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: so's everything's going nuts right now in my brain. So

1175
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 1: she goes, I don't know what to do. She goes,

1176
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: he's an addict, you know. And I'm like, So I said, okay,

1177
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call my mom and then I'm gonna have

1178
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: her come over and get him, and I'll call you

1179
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 1: right back. So I call my mom. I said, go

1180
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,240
Speaker 1: get Dallas. He didn't overdose, he just shot up, basically,

1181
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,799
Speaker 1: So she's all right. She runs over there and I'm

1182
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: on Google now looking up heroin and rehab facilities, and

1183
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. This is all within

1184
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,279
Speaker 1: the course like five minutes, and shouts out to my

1185
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: ex because I don't want to act like she's just

1186
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: a terrible person. She was right there with me. She

1187
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 1: was right there looking on her computer. I'm looking online

1188
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,160
Speaker 1: and then we found a place called the Quest House

1189
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: in Bowling Green, Kentucky. And it was like forty to

1190
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 1: get him in there for like two months or something

1191
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 1: like that. And so I said, all right, I called

1192
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: called the Quest House. There was like, because you know,

1193
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: heroin's a morning drug. You don't do it at night,

1194
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: you do it to wake up, So this is all

1195
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 1: going on in the morning. So I called him. I said,

1196
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get the information. My ex runs down to

1197
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: the bank, gets cashier's check forty one hundred. My mom

1198
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: picked up Dallas. I met her at her job in

1199
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: the parking line and hopped in her car and we

1200
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: drive him down to bowlingg GETUK. Since then about three

1201
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: to four hour drive, get him checked in and he's asleep

1202
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: the whole time, like he's not waking up, and that's

1203
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 1: the first time I ever seen like a drug addict

1204
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: in the in the midst of literally just out like this.

1205
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: You see on skig row right, that's him in the

1206
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: back seat right, So it's really my head up, honestly.

1207
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: So then we get him down there, I check him

1208
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: in and we're not a we're not a touchy Pheley

1209
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: family like that, Okay, so that I just remember, give

1210
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: me the biggest hug. And he was like, he was

1211
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 1: like danks. And then we get him checked in and

1212
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: then he wrote me a couple of letters while he

1213
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: was in That meant a lot to me. I still

1214
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: got him. And then he gets out and I'm calling

1215
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: my mom. Why he's in, I said, Mom, this is

1216
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: why I said. I got him a sponsor. And since

1217
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: then I got him a sponsor, I was like, and

1218
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 1: we got to get him out of Cincinnati. You can't

1219
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: go back to the same place as people because you

1220
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: can do the same things. So I called my guy

1221
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: in Phoenix. He worked at the comedy club there, and

1222
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling the whole story and he's all right, look,

1223
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 1: we'll get him a job.

1224
00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: I have.

1225
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: We'll put him in the kitchen. I told my ex,

1226
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: I told my mom. I was like, look, I'm gonna

1227
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: go to Phoenix. I'm gonna stay with him, Gotta get

1228
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: him his feed. You gotta get him out of that environment, right.

1229
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: And you know comedy clubs on if you know this,

1230
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 1: but usually most of the managers, it's a matter of attrition.

1231
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: They either start at the door or their waitress. They

1232
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 1: show the responsible and they become management. And it really is,

1233
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: you know process. So I'm thinking, Okay, he can get there,

1234
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: get in the kitchen working, maybe we'll get to the door.

1235
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I'm thinking, thoughts are grandeur, right. So my

1236
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: mom she was like, I said, I'm gonna take the

1237
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: Phoenix when he gets out, and she was like, nope, nope,

1238
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: she goes, you cannot take him two thousand miles away

1239
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: from his daughter. And I said, Mom, do you want

1240
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: a dad two thousand miles away? You want a dead dad?

1241
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: Because that's the options right now, and she just wouldn't

1242
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: do it. So I just fell back. I just fell back.

1243
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 1: So that was January twenty fourteen. He ended up overdose

1244
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: to May twenty twenty fifteen, and in the course of

1245
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: that I wasn't really talking to my mom because I

1246
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: did this article on BuzzFeed and they did this thing

1247
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 1: called the how a white comic is one of the

1248
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 1: top black acts in the country. That was the article.

1249
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: But in the article, they asked me about my family

1250
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: and I just said, literally, like my step doesn't act.

1251
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't really mess with him. So when that article

1252
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,440
Speaker 1: came out, my mom wasn't really a mess with me

1253
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: because I like I talked bad about her husband. So

1254
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: when Dallas died, the family kind of comes back together,

1255
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 1: let everything go. And I just remember I remember at

1256
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: the funeral, I ended up buying all the food for

1257
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: the funeral and my stepdad, who was I can't He

1258
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: never said a good word about me. He said, man,

1259
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: where do the food come from? And my mom was like, Gary,

1260
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 1: got it. And I just remember he looked at me

1261
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: and I thought he was gonna say thank you. I

1262
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 1: thought this this would be the first moment we have

1263
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: a breakthrough moment. No, he went I just walked away.

1264
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 1: I said, damn, he can't even say thank you for

1265
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 1: the food. So then what happens is he's got a

1266
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: daughter now, so is the baby. Mama can't take care

1267
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: of them. She's not doing that great in life. My

1268
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: mom and stepdad. Now they want to get custody, and

1269
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: I don't know any of this is happening. I get

1270
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 1: a call from the guardian that light, which is somebody

1271
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: that represents the kid in the custody battle, and she goes, hey,

1272
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 1: so is garyl Now it's him. She goes, are you? Said,

1273
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't want to give my brother's last name. Are

1274
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: you Dallas so and So's brother and she asked She

1275
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: goes wow. She goes, I've had like ten home visits

1276
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: and there's no pictures of you in the house. I asked,

1277
01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: your mom did she have any kids we don't know

1278
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: about and she just said, yeah, I'm my oldest left home.

1279
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:36,080
Speaker 1: He was seventeen. She goes. Somebody in her office said

1280
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,000
Speaker 1: you know that that's Gary Owens brother. That's his niece.

1281
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: So she goes, look, I'm putting in for emergency removal,

1282
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: which means she's not happy with either household. I said

1283
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: what does that mean? She goes, well, she goes in

1284
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: the foster care. I said that ain't happening. I said,

1285
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: we got to do and she goes, well, I got

1286
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 1: to do some home visits. But if you want to

1287
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: take temporary custody, you know that we can do that,

1288
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: and I'm giving the clips now first come. So she

1289
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: came to my house and she was like, she goes,

1290
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,200
Speaker 1: I feel like this kid hit the lottery with how

1291
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: we were living. And then she applied for the emergency

1292
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 1: removal and the judge denied it because the judge was like, look,

1293
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: she's not in a physical danger. It's just a bunch

1294
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: of broke people. Really, So but now my name's on

1295
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 1: the paperwork I signed and couldn't. I can't come to mom,

1296
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: but like, they think you're a bad parent, So now

1297
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: her name's on the paperwork. So when they when they

1298
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: saw the paperwork about this emergency removal, that's when everything

1299
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 1: hit the family. My mom started calling me, what is this?

1300
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: I said, Mom, they think I couldn't tell you, you know

1301
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. So then dad got a little tense

1302
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 1: and I said, Mom, let us take her. Let her

1303
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: let us take because you can't be seventy in your

1304
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: seventies trying to raise a teenager when she gets older.

1305
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: And I knew the home life wasn't the bestket I

1306
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: got another brother who was just not a good dude either.

1307
01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 1: He's big anyways, so they what happened is. My mom

1308
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: just kind of cut me off because I wanted to

1309
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 1: get custody. We're going to go to court, and I

1310
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: just I told my ax. I was like, we gotta

1311
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: fall back because I started getting some terrible text messages

1312
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, they're they're literally about to ruin

1313
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: our life. They're gonna make our life hell. And I

1314
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: got to look out for my kids, and I felt

1315
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,240
Speaker 1: bad for my niece. I couldn't get custody and everything

1316
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: I said, but they were about to make our life

1317
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:33,240
Speaker 1: on both sides, the baby mama and my mom and

1318
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: stepdadd and them, because they were looking at it like

1319
01:02:35,120 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm taking her away from everybody. I'm trying to help her.

1320
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: I know what this child's about to go through with

1321
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: her upbringing. I'm outlived it.

1322
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: So I was like, so.

1323
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 1: At that point, everything was cut off and then I

1324
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: was just I was just something the OUs. So then

1325
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: fast forward, this is all happened in twenty sixteen May

1326
01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty twenty one. For some reason, I was back

1327
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,720
Speaker 1: as in Toinnattie. I knew this day passed away, so

1328
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: I went to the cemetery to go see just see him.

1329
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: I pull up and my Mom's at the cemetery. She's

1330
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: at his head and I saw her and I parked

1331
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: kind of far away, and I member she had a blanket,

1332
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: and I don't know if she was wiping the headstone

1333
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: off or touching his face. And she kept looking at

1334
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 1: me and said, look at bag at her. Someone look

1335
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,720
Speaker 1: at me. I said, I said, oh, this is got shot. Here,

1336
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: I can talk to her. So I walked up real

1337
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: slow and I came up behind her and she saw

1338
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 1: me standing there, and I was I was going to do,

1339
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,760
Speaker 1: was ask can I sit next to her? I didn't

1340
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 1: think we were going to sell anything right then, so

1341
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: I just went I just all I said was high

1342
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: and she just started yelling. She goes, I don't want

1343
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: to talk to you, and started screaming a bunch of

1344
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 1: shs and I'm just like, I said, yeah, yeah, it's

1345
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: just me and her, and she started just yelling. And

1346
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: then I was like, I said, Mom, I'll leave, I'll leave,

1347
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 1: I'll come back later, and she goes, no, no, I'll leave,

1348
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: and then she's she grabbed her blanket and she goes

1349
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,560
Speaker 1: and she goes and I'm reading everything she say and

1350
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: I hope, now you know what it feels like because

1351
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: the divorce is going on right now, she'as and I

1352
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,959
Speaker 1: hope now it feels like when a bunch of people

1353
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 1: on the internet say a bunch of shit about you,

1354
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: it isn't true. And then she was like, this is

1355
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: a really hard day for me, and then she got

1356
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 1: in her car and sped off. Now I'm sitting there

1357
01:04:16,240 --> 01:04:19,320
Speaker 1: like head spinning. But now I can't spend any time

1358
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: at the cemetery because I'm worried she's going back to

1359
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 1: tell my stepdad and my mother brother Gary's at the gravesite.

1360
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 1: I thought they was about to come and to pick

1361
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: up guns a blazing, right, So I was like, and

1362
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: I mean literally, guns are blazing. So I was like,

1363
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: I had a dep So that's the last time I

1364
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: talked to her, seeing or anything.

1365
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:41,560
Speaker 2: Hey, come mess you this. How different is dating inter

1366
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: racially when you first started doing it?

1367
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Do your segue you like that that's top pier right there,

1368
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:52,240
Speaker 1: dating black women?

1369
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to hear, because I don't know if

1370
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 3: I've ever had a guy, white, white gentleman like yourself

1371
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:03,200
Speaker 3: that dated black women. So I wanted to like, because

1372
01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: I understand what it was like in the eighties for

1373
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 3: a black guy trying to date white women and compared

1374
01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 3: to now, Yeah, is it different now than it was then?

1375
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't dating in the eighties, you

1376
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That old, but uh, I don't know.

1377
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: That's all I ever, that's all iver like I'm always

1378
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: been like part of the culture. You're gonna find me

1379
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: a magic city, I said, Dolly O colleyge Okay, yeah,

1380
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: you go. You're gonna find me in G five kod

1381
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna find me to live on Sunday,

1382
01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: not on Saturday during the technical night. I'm going.

1383
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm going where you feel?

1384
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 3: What did you always feel most comfortable around black people?

1385
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I found like, quote unquote found your tribe.

1386
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 1: I just always feel comfortable. And you know, the thing

1387
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: is like, even when I was in the Navy. You know,

1388
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 1: my bunk made his name was Copera Washington, and he

1389
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: was a black guy from South Carolina. And I remember

1390
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: at that time there was no Internet, so people you

1391
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: had to get letters from home, right, So I got

1392
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 1: this big swall brother from South Carolina's my bunkman got

1393
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: a thick country accent, and he gives pictures and He's

1394
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: like on John dere tractor. He's on a farm. And

1395
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:23,920
Speaker 1: I go, I'm looking. I go, were you go on

1396
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: vacation air Copara. He was like, he goes, nah, he goes, man,

1397
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: that's where I live. I go play, don't live on farms.

1398
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: I'm Midwest, maybe live in the city. I didn't know

1399
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 1: black people bailed Hay, he lived on farms. I got,

1400
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: I go blatatelyw on farms and he literally he grabbed

1401
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: a black dude from Misissippi, black dude from Georgia, black

1402
01:06:40,520 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: dude from Arkansas, black man Obama. He goes, come here,

1403
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 1: career here. He was, Garrett, what you just say? I go,

1404
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: Black people on lyone farms? They did like to do

1405
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: the right thing. They go this dude, everybody start busting

1406
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: out these pictures in the country. I go, what the

1407
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:57,160
Speaker 1: mind blown? Mind blown? I was like, Oh, I am

1408
01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 1: very sheltered as far as this stuff goes. But I

1409
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: can hang out with anybody. But I've always been most

1410
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,200
Speaker 1: comfortable and black always been the most welcoming to me too.

1411
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: I mean honestly, like, yeah, my whole life, I don't

1412
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: have issue. The issues I have with it could stem

1413
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: from how my stepdad, and my dad was like, the

1414
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,840
Speaker 1: white men in my life were not the greatest. All

1415
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: the black duds was cool. My football coaches, a black dude,

1416
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,520
Speaker 1: shouts out to Meil Edwards when the coolest guys on

1417
01:07:26,520 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: the planet, You know what I mean? Like, I just

1418
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 1: always had. All the black dudes I ever met was cool.

1419
01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 1: I never met like an as whole or treated me bad,

1420
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: so to speak. Even the black guys I went to

1421
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,640
Speaker 1: high school with, they was cool. We didn't have a lot,

1422
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: we had a couple.

1423
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:40,959
Speaker 2: They was cool.

1424
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 3: Is it is it difficult when you were in your

1425
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 3: children's life. Was it difficult raising mixed race kids? Did

1426
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: you ever have a conversation to them with them about

1427
01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 3: what life was going to be like being in mixed race?

1428
01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 1: I didn't. Like. I didn't have like deep conversations. My

1429
01:07:58,480 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: daughter's like the activist. She's the pro black woman. The

1430
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: boys aren't like my two boys orything like that, But

1431
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: uh yeah, my daughter she's very pro black like she

1432
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: is like because man, when those when the Black Lives

1433
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: Matter movement started and you had the parades.

1434
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: And marches, she was there.

1435
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: Yo, I don't know where she got a blow horns.

1436
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,760
Speaker 1: You're going, yeah, she's yelling like a little and she

1437
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: started talking about white people. This, I go awkward, I'm

1438
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: your dad. They don't care about us white devils like this,

1439
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: whoa whoa white devil? She said, I'm making that up.

1440
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, she's the activist. So my thing with her

1441
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 1: is like I'm here to listen. I just want to

1442
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,160
Speaker 1: and that's what's most important, Like I don't have the answers,

1443
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 1: but I want to listen to your side of things,

1444
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: and I'm always going to have I'm always gonna have

1445
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,439
Speaker 1: your back in situation like that, we didn't have a

1446
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:02,559
Speaker 1: lot of trying to think. We didn't have any big

1447
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: racial issues of them growing up. And granted's the environment.

1448
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: They grew up in a very safe, I don't want

1449
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: to say sheltered environment, but it was like they didn't

1450
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:15,680
Speaker 1: they didn't have to struggle, so they weren't put in

1451
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:19,439
Speaker 1: situations where the cops gonna pull them over, right, they

1452
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: weren't in those neighborhoods. Everybody know, we knew the cops

1453
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 1: in our neighborhood. You know, one cop pulled up. I

1454
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 1: went to high school with them. He knocked on the

1455
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:28,680
Speaker 1: door and I remember my Sonba was like there was

1456
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 1: a cop at the door, and I was like, Mike.

1457
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 1: Then they told me you moved in there. He's in

1458
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,679
Speaker 1: the house. I see you got some crown to fight.

1459
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 3: Right, So do you remember the last meaningful conversation you

1460
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: had with your daughter?

1461
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,799
Speaker 1: Uh? Like talking?

1462
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1463
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 1: Text?

1464
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, just just a conversation like you and I

1465
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 3: sitting down now, like how was your dad at school?

1466
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,880
Speaker 3: You know, how, you know, dating, whatever the case may be.

1467
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 3: Do you remember that last conversation it was?

1468
01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,759
Speaker 1: It was? It was right for she went back to school.

1469
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 1: So she was a freshman and uh god, I spent

1470
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 1: a long time. She graduated and she was a freshman.

1471
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, she's getting ready to go back to Greensboro.

1472
01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: And we just I remember we're just sitting in the

1473
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: back talking just about nothing, life and stuff.

1474
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 2: Your son only date white women? Correct?

1475
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, takes that to his mama. Well I heard

1476
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,400
Speaker 1: he get it from I heard now.

1477
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't do my job. I didn't put it on.

1478
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 2: It's so good.

1479
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is true, but as a

1480
01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: report that you just recently welcome.

1481
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,440
Speaker 1: Twins, damn you know everything.

1482
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,519
Speaker 2: Congratulations, Congratulations and one's.

1483
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 1: White ones black stop swear to God ones got blue

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Speaker 1: eyes because you can tell about the nipples and the balls.

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Speaker 1: One's got blue eyes, got these pink balls, the pink nipples.

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Speaker 1: The other one brown eyes, brown balls, brown nipples. That's dang.

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Speaker 1: I have twins on black ones white.

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Speaker 3: Did you think he was going to be a father

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Speaker 3: again or did you want to become a father again?

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Speaker 1: That's that's a layer question. I didn't think I wanted

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Speaker 1: to be a father again, but and not have a

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Speaker 1: relationship with my kids. I was like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: hate that thing, like I'm gonna do it right this

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Speaker 1: time because I didn't do it well.

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Speaker 2: You don't think you did it wrong the first time.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I did it wrong the first time.

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Speaker 1: I was very conscious of how I spoke to them,

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Speaker 1: how I we disciplined them, how there was no I

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Speaker 1: never put them down. If all the sports and stuff

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Speaker 1: they played, I was always like I was the fun dad, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like it's not a big deal if

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Speaker 1: you lose. I was the fun dad, and I was

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Speaker 1: coaching some of their teams and stuff. So I almost

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Speaker 1: had it wrong. But it's twofold. Didn't see myself doing

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Speaker 1: a dad being a dad, But I think not having

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Speaker 1: a relationship with my kids, you know. I mean the

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Speaker 1: twins Dollars is awesome. I mean they're awesome, and they're

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Speaker 1: in that idolizing dads, right they're young like that, hey young,

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Speaker 1: they're like nine ten months.

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Speaker 2: It's just happened.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean that's the same thing. That's sucks

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Speaker 1: too is my kids. They don't know them right. They're

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Speaker 1: in a relationship with them, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: I don't want to meet them when they're four or five,

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Speaker 1: you know, So that's that sucks too.

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Speaker 3: This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two

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Speaker 3: is also posted and you can access it to whichever

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Speaker 3: podcast platform you just listen to part one on. Just

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Speaker 3: simply go back to Club sha Shape profile and I'll

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Speaker 3: see you there.