1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: We eleven in the Pack twelve was unpredictable per usual. 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: You cannot pick a winner in this conference. We're gonna 3 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: talk about the college football playoff, who's in, who's out? 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: And can the PAC twelve make it? And of course 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 1: the PAC twelve hour rankings, And how about that damn 6 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Game of the Century that the propaganda machine put out. 7 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: I got at least five games that I've seen this 8 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: year that are better than that one. I'm George Rice, 9 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: Sir with Ralph Ampston and this is the Pack twelve Apostles. 10 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for listening to the Pack twelve Apostles podcast. 11 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Tell a friend about the podcast, share it and of 12 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: course subscribing, leave a rating as well. And also, if 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: you guys have any comments, you gotta send it to us. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm mad, I am a g at Unafraid Show dot 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: com and we will always get to it. Let's get 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: to the show, Ralph, before we even get started today, man, 17 00:00:55,800 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: I gotta give props to the Oregon women's basketball team. Dude, 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: they played Team USA and this was not who the 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: Globe Trotters play with the Washington Generals. No, this is 20 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Diana Tarassi. You got suber. You got Skylar Diggins. They 21 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: had real players on the court, and you had Ruthie Hover, 22 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: you had Sabrina I n s q uh Sable, all 23 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: these girls who are to rank the number one team 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: in the country coming in and they beat them k 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: back in the second half. What was your take on that, 26 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: roph Um? Well, first of all, Sabrina I n s 27 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: you is like the greatest women's basketball player. I I 28 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I Britney Grinder uh del don like that. 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: There's good playing TROSSI there's really good players. But like 30 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: as far as people who have become a star in 31 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: college and haven't had Yukon across her chest or Baylor 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: like she she's the best, I think this just goes 33 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: to increase Eastern legend. Obviously the game doesn't mean anything, um, 34 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: but that just brings me back to the fact that 35 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: like Team USA and and basketball is not like soccer 36 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: where there's always these friendly matches or whatever. Um, But 37 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: when you have these exhibitions, it feels like there's only downside, 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Like there's that what's worse for America than like the 39 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, liberal arts school in the Pacific Northwest taking 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: down the American flag, Like that's I just feel I 41 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 1: just feel like there's no there's no upside. What was 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: cool watching like watching the Oregon women's basketball teams celebrate 43 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: a game that doesn't like it doesn't really matter for anything, 44 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: but they were so hype that that part of it 45 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: was pretty cool. But then I was like, oh crap, 46 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: like this is team you have to say, And you 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: know America's women they don't they don't lose on the 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: on the national on the national stage to other countries. 49 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: But it was just like, oh, come on, like like 50 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: you like to think of them as as invincible and 51 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: you know it's just a tune up game or whatever. 52 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: But maybe that goes to show you how good Oregans 53 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: women are going to be this year in uh and 54 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: on the Pack twelve slate. But yeah, that was I 55 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: have mixed feelings, let's put it that way. Yeah, and 56 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it's not even just like Oregon is really good obviously, 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: but as Sabrina like she pulled if you guys see 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: the highlights, she pulled up from half court, which is 59 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: absolutely awesome, like she was Steph Curry. But the entire 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: Pack twelve is good. Oregon State, it's really good. You 61 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: said it's good. I mean there are so many teams, 62 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: uh Stanford, I think there are four pack twelve teams 63 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: right right in the top ten right now. It's absolutely incredible. 64 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: They are the sec football of basketball. But we wanted 65 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: to check this out real quick though, because Diana Tarassi, 66 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: I guess went spoke to the women the night before 67 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: and she told them like the message was stay mad. 68 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: And so they came out and and uh and that 69 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: was their chant, like they were they were down for 70 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: at half and they came out and they did that 71 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: like they got all together and they're like stay mad, 72 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: and then they went out and won the game. And 73 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: that just made me wonder, like what I've heard that 74 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: there was some really really good team chance or whatever. 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you had any of you're 76 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL, college or whatever. But my favorite 77 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: one of all time is I can't remember the women's 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: basketball team I'm looking up right now, but there was 79 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: a women's basketball team had a chance eat kids, and 80 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: it just meant like be be ruthless. I was wondering, what, 81 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: like your bet your your favorite example of any like 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: team chant or team moniker was that you had ever 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: heard of? Oh man, the best one was from the program. 84 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: Kill them all, let the paramedics sort them out. I 85 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: was like, jeez, okay, I guess that's how I kill 86 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: them all. Yeah, kill them all, let the paramedics sort 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: them out. That was one of the greatest lines of 88 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 1: all time in in football history. And um, that's funny. 89 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean think but I love to eat kids when 90 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: because that reminds me of Mike Tyson when he was 91 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: talking about who is he talking about, Evander Holyfield or 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: Lennox Lewis when when he was like, I want to 93 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: eat his heart. I want to eat his children, his children. Yeah, yeah, 94 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: that's scary. So that so that that's where they got 95 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: it from. That's where they got it from. Was they 96 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: watched the Mike Tyson thing. Okay, so I found it ready. 97 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: The battle cry of the Maryland Terrapants women's basketball squad 98 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: is well documented. For whatever reason, these girls chant eat 99 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: kids and break every huddle with one to three eat 100 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: kids and then and and this was back in two nine, 101 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: So this is ten years ago. And I guess they 102 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 1: had just preseason. They had watched a video of that 103 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson speech, and so that was their version of 104 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: being ruthless. And I started to this day, Maryland women's 105 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: basketball had like the greatest chant of all time. But 106 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: stay mad is good, but it's not. It's no eating. 107 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: And it's funny because like men's sports typically don't have 108 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: chance like that. It's normally women's basketball, volleyball, softball has 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: a ton of them. They just they just there. They 110 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: sound like they're doing um, you know, um Hindu hymns 111 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: all game or or Catholic him's all game, like they 112 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: just go all dog a game, Hey girl, let's go. 113 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: So But yesterday in college football there was the quote 114 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: unquote game of the century between Alabama and l s U. 115 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: And before the game started, I was so sick of 116 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: hearing all week give it a century. We gave it 117 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: a century. It was so frustrating to me because I'm 118 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: sitting there like, hold up, this is nothing more than 119 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: the SEC hype machine. This is the SEC hype machine. 120 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: And there was nothing short of propaganda to get too 121 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: SEC teams in the college about playoffs because reality was, 122 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: before the game started, it was one elite team with 123 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: good wins versus an elite talented team who had played 124 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: nobody like you have. So many people who were banging 125 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: on Clemson schedule. Clemson plays their eight conference games. Then 126 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: they scheduled South Carolina, a SEC school, and they scheduled 127 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 1: Texas A and M. They tried. They played tenth COP 128 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: Power five games. Alabama scheduled there eight they're eight. Knock, 129 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: they're eight conference games that didn't include Georgia or Florida. 130 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: And they had do New Mexico State, Western Carolina and 131 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: Southern myths. But we're talking about Clemson schedule. Alabama should 132 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: absolutely be out of the playoffs. This was a Game 133 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: of the century hype thing. I got at least five 134 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: games that were better in this game. Ralph, Yeah, I 135 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: I never bought into that George Game of the Century. 136 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's just I mean it's and and 137 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: if you're bought into the whole SEC hype train, I 138 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't say that I am. I mean, I understand it. 139 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: But why would this be the game and not every 140 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: single other year when they've got games with two teams 141 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: in the top five. And I think that that probably 142 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: goes to to what you're speaking about. It just like 143 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of a little bit extra propaganda for 144 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: this specific matchup. Um, this L s U team is 145 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: really good. It's really talented. They average something like eight 146 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: point four points a game. And in in ed Or 147 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Drown's first four matchups against Alabama, and obviously they go 148 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: out yesterday and then they just blow the doors off 149 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: Alabama in the first half and hang on to win. Um. 150 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: And then you want to talk about chance, We're just 151 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: talking about great chance. How about how about Coacho after 152 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: the game doing the roll tide? What f you you 153 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 1: catch that one? Yeah? That that's got to be up there. Um. 154 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it to me, it's just another game. 155 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: I mean, highly ranked teams play each other and somebody 156 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: has to win. I never really unless it's a bowl, 157 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: unless it's a conference championship, I never really buy into 158 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: any of this stuff. I mean, there's been some absolutely 159 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: incredible college football games. You know, you want to talk 160 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: game of the century, like everything always goes back to 161 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: you know, Texas USC from like were we even we're 162 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,319 Speaker 1: even gonna pretend that this game was in in in 163 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: that stratosphere? And what what about? It was the three 164 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: touchdown halftime lead. That's so I don't know exactly it 165 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: was the team who if L s U played Alabama 166 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: ten times, they would win at least nine of those 167 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: games you do not just care for the built in 168 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: excuse of to his ankle. But at the same time 169 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: he was played he played well like he ended up 170 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: playing well. But the truth is, any time that to 171 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 1: A has pressure and does not have wide receivers just 172 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: running wide open, he struggles. He's done it against Georgia twice, 173 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: did it against l s U, and he also did 174 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: it against It was one other team that he struggled 175 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: against as well against Clemson. Same thing. When you get 176 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: pressure on him and he doesn't have wide receivers just 177 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: running wide open and have thirteen seconds to throw the ball, 178 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: guess what, He's not as good as He's not as 179 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: good as everybody makes him out to me. But I 180 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: thought that that even though the game was very entertaining, 181 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: there was a lot of drama. All of that it 182 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: meant a lot. I saw at least five games this 183 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: year that were at least just as good. I had 184 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: uh L s U versus Texas I'm sorry, Texas versus 185 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: L s U in the beginning of the year. Another 186 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: very high scoring affair I had um back and forth 187 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: Penn State versus Michigan came down to the last play. 188 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: Another six situation, big halftime lead, Michigan comes back, loses 189 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: at the end. Oregon versus Washington great quality football college 190 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 1: football game, U c l A versus Washington State, probably 191 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: the game of the year. There you go, there you go, 192 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: and there it is. Yeah that I mean. You want 193 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: to talk about a big halftime lead, how about how 194 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: about thirty two points late? And then Notre Dame Georgia. 195 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: All of those games were just as good. I just 196 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: stop with the SEC hype machine. But that left us 197 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: in a situation now where you had Penn Penn State, 198 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: who was number four in the rankings. They lost to Minnesota, 199 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: who was clearly underranked. UM and now, so it's gonna 200 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: be pretty obvious. I think l s U bumps up 201 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: to number one. I got in in my College Football 202 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Power Rankings Top twelve Week twelve, as they should be. 203 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: On Unafraid Show, I have l s U one, Ohio 204 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: State too, Clemson three, of Oregon four. The reason why 205 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: I have Oregon four is because I can't put Alabama 206 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: in it. They have zero quality wins. They're probably not 207 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: gonna make it to the SEC Championship. I don't know 208 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: what to make of this team. They've only played one 209 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: good team, like, yes, they've dominated everybody else, but so 210 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: would everybody else have dominated them? Then I got Alabama six, 211 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Alabama five, Utaw six, Georgia seven, Minnesota eight, 212 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: Oklahoma nine, and Penn State ten. Where does your UH 213 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: top six or so stand. I know that I know 214 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 1: that l s U is kind of by far and 215 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: away the favorite runaway number one right now, But I 216 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: think the Ohio State, to me, has shown that they're 217 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: they're the most complete team l s U. I think 218 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: after the game against Texas and after the game against Alabama, 219 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: I think that you can I think you can say 220 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: there's some legitimate questions about this defense. Well, the offense 221 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: has one bad day, you know, can the can the 222 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: can the defense carry them? Which is a really weird 223 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: sentence to be saying about the L s U Tigers. 224 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 1: But but I do have them number two Clemson some 225 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: scheduled concerns, uh, So I have them at number three. 226 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: Alabama on the strength of just having played L s 227 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: U close is number four, even though I don't feel 228 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: great about it. Uh And then I would say, yeah, 229 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: but didn't that game only get close because Jake, because 230 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow missed a couple of throws in the third quarter. 231 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: They could have just kept running up the score. Yeah, yeah, 232 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean you're probably right about that. But I I'm 233 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: sitting with Georgia at five Oregon at six, and those 234 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: two could probably be UM, probably be interchangeable UM. But 235 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: I mean the distance between the distance between three and six, 236 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: for me, is is negligible. If you scramble those up, 237 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: you can probably make an argument for for anything. But 238 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: I think right now one too is probably Ohio State Ulyst. 239 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: That'd be hard to argue with. Oh I would definitely agree. 240 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: And and at this point, I do think that there 241 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: is a big separation between the top three and four 242 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: through six. I think there's a big gap between UM 243 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: between l s U, Ohio State, Clemson. Then I think 244 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: there's a couple of runs. Even though I do think 245 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: that those teams can beat them, you know, on a 246 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: on a given day, under the right circumstances, neutral you know, 247 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: I do think that those teams can beat them. But 248 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: you know, if if you were doing who wins a 249 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: hundred times out of a hundred, those three teams are 250 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna beat all the rest of the all the rest 251 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: of the teams in the top ten way more times 252 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: than they're not going to. That's what I believe. So now, 253 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: if you're Utah or your Oregon, you're in this special 254 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: place where you end up fans of like five different 255 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: teams all all at once because so many things have 256 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: to work out in your favor. Like, if you're an 257 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: Oregon fan, you are now cheering for Auburn every single 258 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: especially coming up. And if you're an Oregon fan, you're 259 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: cheering for Utah. You're a Utah fan. You're cheering for 260 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: Oregon because you want that collision course of two eleven 261 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: and one teams. Um, isn't There's there's a big Georgia 262 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: matchup coming up to I'm not sure which side to 263 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: play Auburn and Auburn plays Alabama. So if so, it's crazy. 264 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, you're gonna be rooting for for basically whoever 265 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: is playing against Alabama or basically no, you're rooting for Aubura. 266 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: Rap you're missing something, You are missing something, Okay, So 267 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: look if Auburn, So, Auburn has no path to the 268 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: to the SEC West at this point, like they would 269 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: need um Alabama, well, they need they would need to 270 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 1: beat Alabama and have UM L s U collect apps 271 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: and lose three games. So but um but okay, So 272 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: imagine this. Imagine if Auburn were to go out and 273 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: beat Georgia, who who was ahead of Oregon in the 274 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: College Football Playoffs, and then turn around and beat UM Yeah, 275 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: and then turn around and beat Alabama. Auburn is sitting 276 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: at number thirteen. Imagine how far up they would jump, 277 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: and then George is gonna then turn around and play 278 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: in the SEC Championship and probably lose the L s U. 279 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: So then you you could potentially have Auburn jumped back 280 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: up in front of Oregon. So what you what Oregon 281 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: really wants is is Georgia to keep winning and then 282 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: turn around and uh lose to L s U in 283 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: the championship and then have Auburn beat Alabama. So then 284 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: natal knock Alabama down. Ah, do you really think the 285 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: committee would be so dumb is to take one good 286 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: throw at the end of the game, uh from from 287 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: bow Nicks to take a two lost Auburn team over 288 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: a one loss conference champion Oregon. They wouldn't do that, 289 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: They're kidding me. This is this is the this is 290 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: the committee, This is ESPN who has all the rights 291 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: to the games, Rolph, you don't think that they're gonna 292 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: try to. I mean, dude, who actually, whoever, if they 293 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: believe Auburn or Oregon, whoever they feel like, would draw 294 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: the best ratings, that's who we get in. That's what 295 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: I think, right, But I mean, if if we're gonna 296 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: go conspiracy theory, I mean, it would be far more 297 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: likely for Utah. True. Now, that's very true. If if 298 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: Utah in Oregon finished eleven and one and then Utah 299 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: wins the Pack twelveth Championship, they're not going to the playoff. 300 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: I think that they get screwed. Dude. Even if even 301 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: if let's say USC wins out goes eight and four, 302 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: that would that would help, that would definitely help. But 303 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: Utah doesn't have the momentum. I don't think that. I mean, 304 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: think about it. They would they would have. I mean, 305 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: there's so much that could possibly happen because Ohio State 306 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: still has to play Michigan and Penn State. You have 307 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: uh Minnesota still has to play Iowa Wisconsin and then 308 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,919 Speaker 1: the Big Ten Championship if they make it. But if 309 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 1: they lose, then they could mess around and then be 310 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: playing Wisconsin. I mean Wisconsin would then be playing the 311 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: winner of the Big Ten East. So there's so much 312 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: that could go on here. But yeah, if Minnesota was 313 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: to win out and what they would go to the 314 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: championship against Ohio State. If Minnesota was to win out 315 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: and beat Ohio State the pace, there's no Ralph if Minnesota. 316 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 1: That means that Minnesota would have beaten Penn State, Iowa, Wisconsin, 317 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: and Ohio State. And you think that the committee would 318 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: steal to and be undefeated. And then no, I'm saying that, 319 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying that they could definitely happen. That could definitely happen. 320 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you have like a to dual big tent. 321 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: This does not look good for the Pac twelve right now. 322 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: You're looking at all these weird situations. There are far 323 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: more situations where the Pack twelve could get squeezed out 324 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: than there are. Literally the only thing it feels like 325 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: it's realistic is for Oregon to have twelve straight wins 326 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,959 Speaker 1: going into because that's gonna be hard to contend with 327 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: because you're like, that's but in a in a in 328 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: a conference where everyone six and six except for one team, 329 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough to make a case. Why can't 330 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 1: we have some elite teams? Why can't we have great 331 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: things right now? I don't know that we're we're at quarterbacks. 332 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,920 Speaker 1: The pack twelve power rank is where are your power 333 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: rankings this week? Ralph? Alright, So starting at the bottom, 334 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: I got I've got Washington State, um, which which somehow 335 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: Mike Leach is still impervious and at the center of 336 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: every hiring rumor. Which ps I think Arkansas would be 337 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: a good tip for him. Um. But but like they 338 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: continue to lose and people continue to look at Mike 339 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: Leach as a great candidate. That dude is bulletproof. It's amazing. 340 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: Coming in at number eleven after giving up a record 341 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: zero points on the bye week is Arizona. Um. I 342 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 1: got Stanford at number ten. I don't even know what 343 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: happened there, call a Atto at number nine, fresh off 344 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: their home win over Stanford. I got Arizona State. Well, 345 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: first of all, first quarter Arizona State coming in at 346 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: number twelve, but the second through fourth quarter, Arizona State 347 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: comes in at number eight for me, and then uh my, my, 348 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: my number seven to round out my bottom six is 349 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: the cow Bears. I'm the same person I do well, 350 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: I do like to take accountability. So I'm the same 351 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 1: person that was roasting you, Ralph for your outrages. Who 352 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: beat who in front of who and all of this stuff, 353 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: and it is incredible. You cannot depend on anybody to 354 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: win in the back twelve, You cannot. Nobody will do 355 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do. Everybody wants to be six 356 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: and six, apparently, because right now you have in the 357 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: North Oregon six and oh eight and one. Oregon State 358 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: were in three, four and five, Washington three and four, 359 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: six and four, Stanford three and four, four and five, 360 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: Cow two and four, five and four, Washington State one 361 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: and five, four and five. To make a long story short, 362 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 1: and then in the South Division it looks damn near 363 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: exactly the same. Every single team in the conference has 364 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 1: in between four and six wins. And me and Ralph 365 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: were trying to figure out we we need some help. 366 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: So if you guys know the answer to this, you 367 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 1: can send it to I'm at it on Afraid show 368 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Is there a mathematical possibility that every team 369 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: in the conference finishes Bowl? Lage was six and six? 370 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: Is it possible? Ralph Yanks I was looking at it, 371 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: I it's weird because everyone's between four and six wins 372 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: except for Oregon and Utah. Uh So it's a complete 373 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: mess right now. I remember we joked about that one 374 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: tweet that everybody at five and four or four and five, 375 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: and we're very very close to having that be something 376 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:10,719 Speaker 1: that exists. Um. I think USC could pull away a 377 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: little bit there. There are some teams that I think 378 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: will end up with more than six wins. But my 379 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,479 Speaker 1: goodness is this you know what what what a cluster? 380 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: Just a demolition derby of everybody crashing into each other 381 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,959 Speaker 1: and and and everybody you know, getting banged up, and 382 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: it's it's been a messy year, but it feels like 383 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: it's been like this for a few years. I do 384 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: think they'll probably end up with more Bowl eligible teams 385 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 1: than two years ago when they had nine Bowl teams 386 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: and went what one and eight or whatever, And like, yeah, 387 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: you beat me to it. You beat me to it, 388 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: Larry Scott. And it only matters that you make it, 389 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: not whether you win or lose. But I will say, 390 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: because I think you were about to uh to to 391 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: admit that that you have to join in with me 392 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: in uh in ranking teams above other teams that they 393 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: lost to and and I get it, and I'm not 394 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: going to rub it in everybody. You know, everybody busts 395 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,879 Speaker 1: on the people who have to take welfare checks until 396 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: they lose their job. Right well, see see in my defense, 397 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: it was at that time. I'm I'm a at the 398 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: point in time kind of person. The all the information 399 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: now now we have so much information. I remember I 400 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: was watching the episode of Brain Games where they talk 401 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: about that when people have too many choices, it actually 402 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,360 Speaker 1: makes it more difficult and more information, it actually makes 403 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: it more difficult to make a decision. If you go 404 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: to an ice cream parlor that has chocolate, vanilla and strawberry, 405 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: you are going to it's easier for you to make 406 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: a choice than if you go to Basket Robbins with 407 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: thirty one flavors. You know, and and and and you're 408 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: you're around the same age as I am. Because how 409 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 1: many Friday nights did you spend forty five minutes just 410 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: standing in the isle of Blockbuster not knowing what to 411 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: do with yourself? Exactly exactly you just said, oh or 412 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 1: or now. My wife always gets so upset because when 413 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: she's like, hey, yo, babe, when we're laying in the bed, 414 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: let's find something to watch. She says, you flipped through 415 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: Netflix more longer. It takes you longer to flip through 416 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: Netflix to find something to watch then it actually takes 417 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: to watch that thing. Yeah, because I'm always trying to 418 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: find the the optimal video to watch, the optimal movie 419 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: or optimal series. That was very kind of Netflix to 420 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: put Blockbuster out of business and then steal their business 421 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: model of giving us too much stuff for us to 422 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: figure out what's good. Yep, exactly, So I prefaced all 423 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: that to give my fact wealth power rankings. So at 424 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: number twelve, I have Arizona. They didn't play, so guess 425 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: what they deal. They still stick but they you know, 426 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: but ironically they ended up falling down in the rankings, 427 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: and the only reason is because Colorado won. So at 428 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: number eleven, I have Colorado, and then at number um 429 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: and then at number eleven I have Stanford. I have 430 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: Stanford at number eleven because I I don't know who 431 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: this team is. Actually, No, I I amend that I'm 432 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: in that. I'm sorry I was over here changing as 433 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,199 Speaker 1: I just stick with what you got, George, Arizona at 434 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: number twelve, Washington State at number eleven. You have to 435 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,120 Speaker 1: go with the results. Yes, they play in the North, 436 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 1: but they're one in five in the conference. Stanford at 437 00:26:53,240 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 1: number ten, Colorado who unexplicably beat Stanford at number nine, 438 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: Oregon State at eight, then I got call it number seven. 439 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: That's where I'm at. Then what are your top six? 440 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: Raph Um, I'm rocking with I'm rocking with Oregon State. 441 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: Uh and I can't wait to talk about that. That 442 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: the Oregon State Washington game that was strange. I'm rocking 443 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 1: with Oregon State at number six. H U c l 444 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: A at number five, USC who played a very interesting 445 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: game on the road at Arizona State that I attended. Um, 446 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: it comes in at number four. Then I've got Washington 447 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: holding strong at number three, exactly where I had them 448 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: last week, exactly where I had him last week. With 449 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 1: there they're coming at number three, and then of course 450 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:58,439 Speaker 1: Utah then Oregon Okay, Um, I don't know why I 451 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: have okay, I I guess I was with second half 452 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: Arizona State when I when I when I made this 453 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 1: because I have Arizona State at number six, even though 454 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: if you're like cows a better football team, right now, 455 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: but maybe it was only one week. But Garbers, Garbers. 456 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: Maybe back next week. Maybe back next week. That's what 457 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: a little birdie told me. Either next week or the 458 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: week after for sure. Um U s C. I got 459 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: USC at number five. This team is I mean Clay 460 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: Helton narrowly escaped getting fired on the tarmac. Washington at 461 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: number four. They're trending up the standings. I guess they're 462 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: three or four now, um U c l A at 463 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: number three? Why is you c l A at number three? Hell? 464 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: They are what there four and two in the conference? 465 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: That's why the number three. So I can't make all 466 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: all of this up. And Utah and Washington at number two, 467 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry Utah and Oregon at number two and number one. 468 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: This is just a disaster, dude. I mean like people 469 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 1: people praise parody, like, yeah, there's so much parody. Parody sucks. 470 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: Parody sucks when it when it talks about the the 471 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: perception of the conference. Because imagine if Oregon and Utah 472 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: and you know, like having only two teams ranked is 473 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: bad because there's such a divide between the halves and 474 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: the have not. This is the same thing in the SEC. 475 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: But the problem is that they just have more halves 476 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: and the rest of the conference just it just gets decimated. 477 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: That's why Arkansas just fired their head coach. They get decimated, 478 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: and that's fine. You just want more elite schools. But 479 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 1: we can start, Ralph, because you're I know you're itching 480 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: on this. We at the game on Friday night. Weird 481 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: stuff happens on pack twelve after dark. Washington Huskies nineteen, 482 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: Oregon State Beaver seven. Make this makes sense to me, Ralph, 483 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: I think it makes sense in the context of nothing 484 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 1: on Friday night makes sense. So you know it, Oregon 485 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: State really didn't get to run very many plays. They 486 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: completely shut Washington completely shut down their running game, which 487 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: is exactly what you need to do. Like Jake Luton 488 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: is very accurate, and he helps move this offense down 489 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: the field. Or make no mistake, they're running games sets 490 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: up the passing game. Having to cheat up having to 491 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: stuff the box knowing that they're able to run the 492 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: ball on you, gives him the ability to go over 493 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: the top, gives him the ability to use his accuracy, 494 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: you know on medium range throws. Uh that that's part 495 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: of it. So if you turn that faucet off and 496 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: they're not able to run the ball, then it is 497 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: on Jake Luton to try how to win the game, 498 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: and he's not He's a good quarterback, but he's not 499 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: a star. He he will protect the ball, but he 500 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: won't go out there and get a win on his own. 501 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: At least he was for eighty eight yards. He didn't 502 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 1: even try to throw the ball down the field. It 503 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: was I was like, are you ever gonna try to 504 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field? Because they finished with 505 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: I think they finished with a total of like a 506 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: hundred and like a hundred and twenty nine yards. Yeah, 507 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: longest longest passing play of the night was twenty one yards. 508 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 1: The next longest was ten ten yards. And I was like, 509 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: are they gonna cross every single time? One for everything 510 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: on third down? One for game? The only way they 511 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: scored so it was Washington nineteen Jacob Easton seven because 512 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,479 Speaker 1: he threw a pick six. It was I mean I 513 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 1: saw the most of the Oregon State Utah game. This 514 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: was a bigger destruction than that. I mean, they literally 515 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: could not move the ball. They looked like a JV 516 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: team playing against the varsity. And you know why, it 517 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to me because Washington didn't sack Jake 518 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Luton one time, not once, so these were of a 519 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: lot of this was felt like unforced errors. And then 520 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: Oregon State, who has played some really undisciplined football this year, 521 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: only had four penalties, So it's not like they spent 522 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: a bunch time shooting themselves in the foot. They just 523 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: couldn't play. It was like the first time I ever 524 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,400 Speaker 1: let my kids play n C double A on PlayStation. 525 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: Like they don't know the buttons, they don't know what 526 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 1: to do. It's just bad. It was just bad, a 527 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 1: terrible again. And I thought it was terrible by Oregon State. 528 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: I thought that they would be able to perform better 529 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: because Washington's defense has not been stout like it has not. 530 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that's one of the complaints about them. They 531 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: gave up, you know, they gave up twenty three to Utah, 532 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: thirty five to Oregon, seven to Areas, I'm sorry, yeah, 533 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: twenty seven to Arizona, twenty three to Stanford. You know, 534 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: like I don't understand, Like I don't know what to 535 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: make of this team, because yet they had a week off. 536 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: But Oregon State, who we thought had been playing better, 537 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: just came out opposite day. Their their defense played played well. 538 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: But also let's talk about the elephant in the room. 539 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: The elephant in the room is Mr Jacob Eason six 540 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: team for thirty to two interceptions, no touchdowns, a hundred 541 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: and seventy five yards. He has not looked very I 542 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: mean he was overthrowing guys. He was awful in the game. 543 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean, at one point, Coach Peterson was clearly like, 544 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I'm not letting Jake Jacob Eaton lose this game for us. 545 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: So because he almost had another pick two, he almost 546 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: dow another pick pick six, So saying Chris Peterson was like, oh, nope, 547 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: we're shutting this train down, buddy. We're gonna run the football. 548 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: So they ran Salvin ah'md carries hundred seventy eight yards, 549 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,799 Speaker 1: two touchdowns, Richard Newton seventeen carries. They ran the ball 550 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 1: forty eight times. They were not gonna let Jacob um 551 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: Jacob Easton ruined this victory for them. Yeah, and I 552 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: want to crack something from earlier because I was reading 553 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: the statuet wrong. It was time sack, not not sacks. 554 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: So I mean they did get to in four different times. 555 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 1: But here's the weird thing about Jacob Eeson and week 556 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 1: to week is just so bizarre. He has five games 557 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: George where he's thrown for three or more touchdowns. This 558 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: year he has four games where he's thrown for one 559 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: or fewer three of those zero. And this isn't even 560 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: a guy that lets himself get sacked very often. He's 561 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: been sacked more than twice once this year that was 562 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: by cow He did not get sacked against Oregon State. 563 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 1: He only got sacked once by Oregon, once by Arizona, 564 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 1: didn't get sacked versus b y U once by Hawaii. 565 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 1: And I know that he kind of keeps himself out 566 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: of trouble by dropping back for eternity, but I mean, 567 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: this has been a really bizarre year and it's starting 568 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 1: to I mean, it's it's you. You're starting to wonder 569 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: if this is just kind of how Washington's offense works. 570 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: Because previous quarterbacks have also run you know, hot and cold, um, 571 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 1: but it was usually more distributed as like early season hot, 572 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,400 Speaker 1: late season cold. This is from game to game. You 573 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: don't know what you're gonna get. When you have performances 574 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: like that, I think it is clear you need to 575 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,839 Speaker 1: stay in school because you're you're you're right about that. 576 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: I think I think I think he pretty much cemented 577 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: that he should probably come back, yeah, because he will 578 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: not be a first round draft pick with the with 579 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,839 Speaker 1: the hot and cold performances that that he has had. 580 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:35,320 Speaker 1: He didn't need, you know, spectacular performances. He just needed 581 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: to not have stuff like today, well, well the game 582 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: against Oregon State and then those other games that you 583 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: talked about where he was just like they didn't win 584 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 1: because of him, that they just want they want one 585 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: more in spite of him. He wasn't like a zero 586 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: sum factor he or even a game manager. He was 587 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: just he was a net negative. Yeah. So, and I 588 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: know I said a lot of good things about him, 589 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: and he's looked like those things sometimes and other times 590 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: he looked very bad. I told you that you could 591 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,799 Speaker 1: have him and he and he's your guy. You can 592 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: rock and you can rock with him. So looking back 593 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: and you have you have, you get what you deserve, buddy. 594 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: So the next game up in the conference was Stanford 595 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: versus Colorado Ralph I can't make sense of this. I 596 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,280 Speaker 1: can't so like the Washington Oregon State game, I thought, 597 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: what Oregon State, I mean, if it were if you 598 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: had told me Washington only scored nineteen points, I would 599 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: have told you that Oregon State one. Like if you 600 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: had told me that watched you scored nineteen points, I said, okay, cool, 601 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: Or Oregon State must have won the game like twenty 602 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: one nineteen or something. But no, um, But Stanford thirteen 603 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: to Colorado sixteen? What? How terrible? How? I mean? Okay? 604 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: So the reason why I'm so flabbergasted, The reason why 605 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm so you know, like in all and in shock 606 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: of these results people, because coming into the game in 607 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,440 Speaker 1: terms of scoring defense, Colorado was given up almost thirty 608 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 1: five points a game. In terms of total defense, they 609 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: were giving up four eight yards a game to everybody. 610 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,359 Speaker 1: Everybody was going on, They've given up over thirty points. 611 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: I think in every single game this season at least 612 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: thirty points going into last year. It's like games in 613 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: a row plus. So how are you Stanford and you 614 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 1: can't score? You can't score at all? On the leak 615 00:38:52,480 --> 00:39:00,319 Speaker 1: the second leakiest defense only Arizona's worse. How, I don't 616 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: know it was it limitations show until day like it 617 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 1: was it was it Stanford, Stanford's job to go out 618 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: there and and and showcase everything that they were not 619 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: good at. I mean, so uh J J. Parson I 620 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 1: think got an interception for Stanford. He's a walk on. 621 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: So without that, it was just a matter of just 622 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: these scholarship players they did not show up. They did 623 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: not show up. I uh, play the game fourth and 624 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: one and they give it wasn't really a jet sweep, 625 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: sort of like an in tight end around to Leavisca 626 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:43,600 Speaker 1: Chanal and Stewart Head, the six ft fo pound junior 627 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:48,759 Speaker 1: safety for Stanford. Has Lavisca squared up hit him in 628 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: the backfield. I mean, give your give your team a 629 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: chance to go out and win, and instead he got trucked. 630 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: He got trucked, and that was just that. That one play, 631 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: to me, is the most important play the game. But 632 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: that one play, to me, was indicative of just the 633 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: entire Stanford performance of like this game is in your sights. 634 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: You're right there, you're in perfect position, and you just 635 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: end up on your ass. Which poor poor Stewart Head, 636 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: whose name I did not know before he got run over, 637 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: and now after after looking him up, I have learned 638 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: such factoids as he's good friends with Chandler Rigs. Carl 639 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 1: from the walking Dead. Uh so now they have uh, 640 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: you know, the walking Dead and the Sitting Dead in common. 641 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,400 Speaker 1: And he once won the shoes off Chris Paul's feet 642 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: by beating him in a free throw contest. So um, yeah, 643 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 1: but I don't think what happened to him when trying 644 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: to tackle the niscusional. It's going to make his uh 645 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 1: his list of career highlights. That was pretty bad. And 646 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: then also we we we we got to visit it 647 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 1: again from the ghost of Colorado receiver's path. Uh, Tony 648 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: Brown again out there making plays. This is a guy 649 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: coming into the season that you thought was maybe going 650 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: to be a thirty catch on the year guy, and 651 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: every good game that they've had, it's been him out there, um, 652 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: making place. He's been kind of to me, he's been 653 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 1: I I'd give him most improved player, and he's really 654 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: been the surprise at the conference uh thus far. But 655 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: congratulations to Colorado on getting their first ever win in 656 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 1: the last three years after playing Arizona State. They're now 657 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:36,520 Speaker 1: one in fourteen since two thousand seventeen following their game 658 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: against Arizona State, which is just a almost as bizarre 659 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: of a stat is breaking your streak of breaking your 660 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: streak of thirteen straight thirty plus point games. There was 661 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: not a single good thing in this game for Stanford 662 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: other than Semi Fajoko um who is He's an absolute superstar. 663 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 1: I mean he got he had like a third of 664 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: their total yards on the day. He had two catches 665 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,879 Speaker 1: for nine yards in a touchdown and that play you're 666 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: talking about with seventy nine yards. This Stanford team is 667 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: a disaster. I don't know what what is going on 668 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: with David Shaw. And when it comes time to pick 669 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:23,919 Speaker 1: next year, Pack twelve, PAQ twelve, Media Day, who's gonna 670 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: finish first? All of this stuff? Stanford, Stanford and in 671 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,239 Speaker 1: the north Stanford and Oregon State are going to be 672 00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: fighting for that for that last spot, which is which 673 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: is pretty sad. So you don't think this is a 674 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: down year, you think because last year was not like 675 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: last year. Stanford couldn't run the ball either. They were 676 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: inconsistent throwing the ball. I am very, very concerned about 677 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: the future this Stanford Cardinal program. It is, it does 678 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: not look like it is headed in the same direction 679 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: right now. Meanwhile, this has been a great week all 680 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: around for Colorado. You know, we already talked about them 681 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,560 Speaker 1: getting a five start transfer. Uh commit, But I mean 682 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: this is definitely, definitely in a very very interesting week 683 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,960 Speaker 1: for Colorado. All of a sudden things are on the upswing. 684 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: They can play defense, the biscuitition alts healthy. Um, they 685 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: got her what they got a rushing touchdown from Montez. 686 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: He's out there running for running for scores and we 687 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: got bad monte and they still want so uh the 688 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: I mean there was I know, okay, when we talk 689 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 1: about the game of the century, all these amazing games 690 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: that we've seen this year, this was the opposite. It 691 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 1: was the only moment that watched his game from cover 692 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: to cover where either had a an investment in the 693 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: game like a bet or their family or friends who 694 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,839 Speaker 1: were playing in the game. I mean, I mean, there 695 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: wasn't any there was nothing intriguing that could keep you 696 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,640 Speaker 1: watching this game while the other games were on. I mean, 697 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,839 Speaker 1: there were so many other college football games on at 698 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: the exact same time that you. I mean, the end 699 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: of the l s U Alabama game was on, There 700 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 1: was USC Arizona was on. Like there was nothing to 701 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,840 Speaker 1: keep you on packs twelve network if you had it 702 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,319 Speaker 1: at all ready to watch this foot football game. It 703 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,360 Speaker 1: probably was one of the lowest rated games of the 704 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: entire year, if the packs have put out their right 705 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: if their ratings. The next game up was very surprising 706 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:40,600 Speaker 1: to me. The your, um, your Arizona State sun Devils 707 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: hosted USC, and all I saw all week was Arizona 708 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,919 Speaker 1: State fans saying, no, no, Oregon, don't don't get Clay 709 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: Helton fired. We want to do it. That's our job. 710 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: And and before you could blink, USC was up twenty 711 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 1: eight to seven, and then all of a sudden, and 712 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: then so I was like, okay, well, Arizona States playing 713 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,360 Speaker 1: with their backup quarterback yelling he didn't look all that great, 714 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: and you know, first couple of couple of quarters. Then 715 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:14,160 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I flipped back. Well, actually I 716 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: had it on. So I have two TVs in my 717 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,839 Speaker 1: in my game, and I was watching, and so I 718 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: had one on the Alis Alabama LSU game the whole time, 719 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,479 Speaker 1: and then the other one. I'm flipping back and forth 720 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,439 Speaker 1: and then except for at halftime and stuff like that, 721 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,760 Speaker 1: and I and then I flipped off the Arizona State 722 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 1: USC game for a few minutes. Then I flipped back 723 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: and I'm like, hold up, Arizona State is close, and 724 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,440 Speaker 1: then in No Benjamin fumbled and then I was like, oh, 725 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: I yeah, I guess they're not gonna make it, and 726 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: then they keep coming back in USC could not score. 727 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: How how Ralph? I don't understand what the hell is 728 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 1: going on with Arizona State. I thought they would played 729 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: better after to buy. They came out slow and sluggish, 730 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: then they tightened up or was it USC being bad? 731 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,759 Speaker 1: Weird game? Let's just throw it out there. I mean, 732 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,040 Speaker 1: this is I It's been a long time since I've 733 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,200 Speaker 1: ever seen it, you know, anything quite like this. I've 734 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: definitely never seen anybody throw over two in the first quarter. 735 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: And let's just set the stage for how bizarre this 736 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,919 Speaker 1: game was. First, Jaden Daniels misses the game, which none 737 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: of us knew was gonna happen. And the way that 738 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:28,120 Speaker 1: that story got broken is HERM Edwards was on the 739 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:32,239 Speaker 1: most popular sports podcast on the planet, Pardon My Take, 740 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: and he must have let it slip to those guys, 741 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: to p f T Commenter and Big Cat. He must 742 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: have because p f T Commenter has a Twitter account 743 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: that he created for his dog, and his dog breaks 744 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:52,800 Speaker 1: stories sometimes, and it's this whole dumb bit uh and uh, 745 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,680 Speaker 1: and so p f T commenters Dog, who has like 746 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: seventy followers on Twitter breaks the story before any l 747 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: A or Arizona media can that Jaded Daniels isn't going 748 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,440 Speaker 1: to be starting in the game. Which then I then 749 00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,439 Speaker 1: found out that there are a lot of people who 750 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: have never actually heard of Leroy the p f T 751 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,800 Speaker 1: comment or news breaking Dog. So so you know, and 752 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,480 Speaker 1: I think that you probably have to listen to the 753 00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 1: show to know about that, but a simple Google search 754 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: would probably help someone figure out what was going on. Instead, 755 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: we had we had people take it seriously down here 756 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,840 Speaker 1: in Arizona that were like, I don't know who this 757 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: reporter is that signs off all his tweets with bark Bark, 758 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,319 Speaker 1: but he doesn't even have a last name, So I 759 00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,120 Speaker 1: don't know if we can depend on him to be 760 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: seemed to be a credible source. And then so uh 761 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,560 Speaker 1: and then so on the rival side, my old boss Hodrobino, 762 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,480 Speaker 1: He's like, no, I check the sources. It's true, you know, 763 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 1: credit to Leroy the Dog, But Jaden Daniels is gonna 764 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 1: be missing the game because Joshua Woods Uh did an 765 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,400 Speaker 1: alligator role with his ankle. You know, I got him 766 00:47:57,400 --> 00:47:59,080 Speaker 1: by the ankle, and then he did a couple extra 767 00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, I believe that, uh the kid, the people 768 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: in the seventies would have called it a good tackle 769 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: and the kids nowadays would call it dirty a f 770 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 1: And so Jaden Daniels is you know, he's gonna miss 771 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 1: the game. So now you have Joey Yellen, who played 772 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: at Mission Viejo High School. He transferred I believe from St. 773 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: John Bosco when he saw d J. Yeah Galley coming, 774 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:27,319 Speaker 1: who is the second coming of Cam Newton. So yeah, 775 00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: so he transferred out to Mission Viejo. He had uh 776 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, it came down to I believe, he committed 777 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 1: to Arizona State and then Georgia came in late. He's 778 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: stuck with a s U. And then Jane Daniels committed later. 779 00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 1: So Jane Daniels beats out everybody, and Joey Yellen actually 780 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: beats out the red shirt Jr. Dylan Sterling Cole, who 781 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 1: was on the roster to be the number two quarterback. 782 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 1: I drove out to l A last year to watch 783 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,520 Speaker 1: him play. He's a great quarterback. He's very um. If 784 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: you had to compare him to anybody, probably j Cutler, 785 00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,000 Speaker 1: and take away all the connotation of like being a 786 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: longtime NFL fan and all the things you don't like 787 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,240 Speaker 1: about Jay Cutler. I'm talking Jay Cutler coming out of Vanderbilt, 788 00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 1: j Cler. He's gonna be a really talented quarterback. So 789 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,399 Speaker 1: and then you have Keaton Slovis, who did not get 790 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,600 Speaker 1: an a s U offer, even though a SU went 791 00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: to see him throw a couple of times. Uh and 792 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,120 Speaker 1: and he played at a high school fifteen miles away 793 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,800 Speaker 1: from a s U. Yelling didn't get USC offer. Slovis 794 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: didn't get an a s U offer, So here we 795 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,479 Speaker 1: go revenge game, right. Slovis throws for two ninety seven 796 00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: yards and four touchdowns in the first eleven and a 797 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,160 Speaker 1: half minutes of the game, and then USC scores three 798 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the way. Joey Yelling produces one yard 799 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:39,759 Speaker 1: of offense in the first quarter for Arizona State and 800 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: then goes on to throw four touchdowns almost brings them back. 801 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: It ended up being a pretty good game. Fans down 802 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: here a pretty frustrated with Arizona State feel like they've yeah, 803 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: herm keeps things close, but they've been on the losing 804 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: end of quite a bit of a bit of these 805 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: games there twelve and ten under Herm Edwards, and people 806 00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:00,320 Speaker 1: are wondering how that's better than Todd Graham. There's some 807 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 1: people frustrated that it's possible that Herm let it slip. 808 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: You know, that they could prepare for another quarterback because 809 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: he told to the equivalent of sports Howard stern Um 810 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:15,719 Speaker 1: about about Jaden Daniel's injury. Uh. And so definitely a 811 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:19,480 Speaker 1: weird situation, weird game. I think USC played well. I 812 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: think the Clay Hilton haters got the best of both worlds. 813 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: They got to have a victory and also have a 814 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff to complain about because a SU very 815 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: easily could have won that game at the end if 816 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 1: Christian Rector doesn't fat that ball to himself and get 817 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,839 Speaker 1: an interception to uh to seal the game. So um, 818 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,239 Speaker 1: they and again you and I talked about how good 819 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: these USC receivers are. They showed out. But then again, 820 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,040 Speaker 1: Arizona State dominated this game for three plus quarters. So 821 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,239 Speaker 1: it's really hard to know how to feel if you're 822 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: an a s U fan. But USC fans, I mean, 823 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: they're done, They're they're done done with Clay Hilton. And 824 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,400 Speaker 1: we actually have an interview George with Ryan Young, the 825 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: publisher of the u SC rival site Trojan sports dot com. 826 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: So I'll go ahead and throw to that. Ralph Amston 827 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,520 Speaker 1: with the Pack Twetal Apostles podcast. I'm up here in 828 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: the press box, Arizona, stay with Ryan Young, the publisher 829 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: Trojan Sports dot com. And uh, Ryan, what did I mean? 830 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,080 Speaker 1: What a weird game today? Let's let's just start with 831 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:21,799 Speaker 1: the obvious before we get into everything that's going on 832 00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:24,960 Speaker 1: with with with USC. USC comes out throw for three 833 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:29,520 Speaker 1: yards four touchdowns in the first quarters, not not first quarter, 834 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: first eleven and a half minutes exactly, and then uh 835 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,919 Speaker 1: and then hangs on for dear life effectively the rest 836 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,120 Speaker 1: of the game. Yeah, have you ever seen a game 837 00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,919 Speaker 1: like that? I mean, this is this is an interesting one. 838 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,520 Speaker 1: So you said weird, It's not weird to those of 839 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,959 Speaker 1: us who covered this team. In fact, I started writing 840 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,279 Speaker 1: a column during the game that this game had all 841 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: the hallmarks of a USC game in the last two 842 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 1: years and unsustainable strong start, backbreaking penalties, special teams, breakdown, 843 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: key injuries somewhere in the US to the game with 844 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: Keaton Slovi's going out for a few series. I mean, 845 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,560 Speaker 1: we we've just seen this formula in some former fashion 846 00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,479 Speaker 1: playouts so many times where games like this get away 847 00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,920 Speaker 1: from them and make the mistake. This game did get 848 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 1: away from them. They held on the win, but by 849 00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 1: the skin of their teeth, but did get away from them. 850 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: And it's just there's so many examples from the last 851 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 1: two years that would fit the same mold to me. 852 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 1: You know, some of the numbers are different. In the 853 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,359 Speaker 1: first quarter is obviously an outlier that doesn't happen much. 854 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: Outliers was the word was designed for this occurred. Yeah, 855 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 1: I saw the styling. ESPN at least according to the 856 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: Area Search ship was the most passing yards in any 857 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,360 Speaker 1: quarter by the college football quarterback at least fifteen years. 858 00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,279 Speaker 1: So that's just insane. But if you if you look 859 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: at just the brother themes to the game, it really 860 00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: was not out of the character for this team. You've 861 00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,480 Speaker 1: I've covered Keaton Slovis at the high school Wver, you co, 862 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: You've covered him at the college level. You know, I 863 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: think that there's some you know, people would want to 864 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,120 Speaker 1: paint this is like a revenge game for him. He 865 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,040 Speaker 1: was always going to us the second that he got 866 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:03,120 Speaker 1: that opportunity, he was gonna lock it in. He's a 867 00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 1: nice kid. I mean, I had probably probably had to 868 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,839 Speaker 1: feel good, right, But he's not the kind of guy 869 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: that was like just waiting to go out there and 870 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 1: get his revenge. He's just it's the rhythm of the 871 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,920 Speaker 1: offense that's That's definitely not his personality at all. He 872 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: is the most low key, you know, reserved, hyper focus 873 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,399 Speaker 1: on the task at hand kind of guy. I knew 874 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: a lot about his recruitment, and I knew that Arizona 875 00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:25,720 Speaker 1: was going to offer him after he committed and then didn't. 876 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know what the story was. There was in 877 00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: a state, so I asked him this week. And if 878 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,439 Speaker 1: you've watched any of his press conferences in season, they're 879 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,880 Speaker 1: very quick. He doesn't say a whole lot. He's always polite, 880 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,799 Speaker 1: great kid, but he's not super revealing. As I asked 881 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: that question, I was in a state, and this big 882 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: smile flashed across his face and he paused. He always 883 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: he's gonna give us something. That he didn't say anything. 884 00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 1: He didn't want to go. He didn't want to go there, 885 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: so so maybe maybe there's a tinge extra renovation. But 886 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,319 Speaker 1: now I can't imagine that he spent more than a 887 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 1: minute or so thinking about that this week at all. 888 00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a weird question. I've never had to 889 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: ask it before because I don't I've more have been 890 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:08,440 Speaker 1: in this situation, down five, two minutes left, Joey Yellen, 891 00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,600 Speaker 1: who is also a freshman, driving Arizona State down the field. 892 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,239 Speaker 1: Is there a faction of USC fans that want them 893 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,920 Speaker 1: to score, that wants Arizona State to score? Right? There? 894 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 1: Is that? I mean? Is there is there are people 895 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,800 Speaker 1: that want Clay Hilton gone so bad that they turned 896 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: to rooting against the immediate success of the team. I 897 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,480 Speaker 1: understand the question, and I think that that would be 898 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,560 Speaker 1: true earlier in the season. I think at this point 899 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: everyone assumes it's gonna happen anyway, So I think earlier 900 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: in the season, I mean, we had debates on the 901 00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,240 Speaker 1: message board with people expressing that sentiment and they getting 902 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,680 Speaker 1: railed upon by everyone else, going you support the team 903 00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:47,480 Speaker 1: no matter what. And then what you see is during games, 904 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: if they got down early, if they were behind, if 905 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: it lookally was going poorly, then a lot of the 906 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 1: Clay haters will come up and go well, at least 907 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: this means we're one game closer to the the Clay being gone, 908 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: So there's definitely some of that sentiment at times. At 909 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: this point, though, there's nothing single person in the USC 910 00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: fan base or community, I think, maybe besides Clay Helton, 911 00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: who thinks that this is still up in the air. 912 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,759 Speaker 1: If if a USC fan could have their choice tomorrow, 913 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,640 Speaker 1: but your typical USC fan could have their choice tomorrow 914 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,279 Speaker 1: of Larry Scott being removed as commissioner of the conference 915 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: or Clay Helton being removed as the head coach of 916 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,319 Speaker 1: the USC, what do you think they would choose? As 917 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,920 Speaker 1: much as both of those with appeal to them, no question. 918 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,920 Speaker 1: Clay Helton's it's tough for those who cover of us, 919 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 1: who cover him because he's such a nice and genuine 920 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,480 Speaker 1: because a good man like he isn't he's he's a 921 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,919 Speaker 1: good man. You'd like to see him succeed. But it's 922 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: clear to everyone now that this program is just at 923 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: a ceiling with him. I mean, case in point, his 924 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,520 Speaker 1: whole monster this all season preseason was that he's gonna 925 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 1: step back in the offensive defense and focus on quote 926 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 1: the discipline of the game, making us some more discipline 927 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,919 Speaker 1: team that doesn't make mistakes, and they've been as bad 928 00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,200 Speaker 1: as ever in that department all year. He hasn't been 929 00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: able to fix any the problems that plague his program program, 930 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:06,880 Speaker 1: and even the most ardent and loyal and final supporters 931 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,280 Speaker 1: have kind of falling off the back bandwagon in recent weeks, 932 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: and everyone just wants change in the fresh start for 933 00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: USC football because at this point, no one believes that 934 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,480 Speaker 1: he can have a truly great season with this program 935 00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:21,759 Speaker 1: without Sam Donald. I mean, he obviously he won the 936 00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,000 Speaker 1: Rost Bowl, he took him to a Packwall title, but 937 00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: he's gotten almost no credit for that from the fan base. 938 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: And what's happened last two years is only served the 939 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 1: validate the people who thought that that they were doing 940 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,160 Speaker 1: that despite him those two years. But I would not 941 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 1: say is fair. I think you know you're the coach 942 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: of the team. You deserve credit for that success. But 943 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 1: we're talking about a team that's now eleven and eleven 944 00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: over the last two years this point, USC football eleven 945 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: eleven through almost two seasons. It's time for change. Okay. 946 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,359 Speaker 1: So I could ask you a million questions, but I 947 00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,640 Speaker 1: literally interrupted your work to put you in the missis 948 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:57,839 Speaker 1: to answer some of mine and so let's let's end 949 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: with this early signing day has created an interesting predicament 950 00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,480 Speaker 1: for anybody looking to make a move. Florida State just 951 00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:07,520 Speaker 1: moved on from from Willie Taggart. They did it early. 952 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,000 Speaker 1: And that's not to say that USC's in contention for 953 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,439 Speaker 1: maybe the same names as somebody in the deep Southeast. 954 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: But this recruiting class that USC is putting together is 955 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 1: von characteristically mediocre. And you know, you and I cover recruiting. 956 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,880 Speaker 1: We know these kids and just like Clay Hilton, good kids, 957 00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: good man. But the standard is the standard and it 958 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:31,480 Speaker 1: and it needs to be elevated for for a school 959 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,560 Speaker 1: like USC. But my question to you is, with the 960 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: early signing day like absorbing almost se the talent at 961 00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: this point, should USC fans basically timber their expectations as 962 00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,120 Speaker 1: far as what can happen in the class of and 963 00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: maybe have their attention during I think you have to. 964 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 1: And the reason why it's not the end of the world, 965 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,880 Speaker 1: because this is gonna be a small class anyway, they 966 00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:00,120 Speaker 1: had limited scholarships. They went all in last year. It 967 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,600 Speaker 1: was gonna be a class in the mid teens this year, 968 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,920 Speaker 1: maybe a little more now because if that's an attrition, 969 00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:10,120 Speaker 1: so they're pretty well stocked at most spots, so they're 970 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,160 Speaker 1: not gonna feel it immediately. I just don't see a 971 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,160 Speaker 1: path to recovery at this point. They're in from the 972 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: mid sixties right now, and obviously, you know, some of 973 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,400 Speaker 1: those kids are really outperforming the ranking, but on the whole, 974 00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:24,720 Speaker 1: it's a pretty good where that classes. So, I mean, 975 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,880 Speaker 1: this fan base has put all its eggs in the 976 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,800 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer basket, and that's the one guy whould come 977 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: in and steal a few guys like could maybe talk 978 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,440 Speaker 1: with Justin Flow and the stay at home maybe maybe 979 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,800 Speaker 1: get back in the bright young conversation. Probably not, but 980 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,480 Speaker 1: you know, that's the way the fan base thinks that 981 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 1: he's the one guy that could have a demonstrative impact immediately, 982 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: and because of that, they've kind of set themselves up 983 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: for If it's not Urban Meyer, there's gonna be disappointment, 984 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:54,840 Speaker 1: which is just a really tough position to be in 985 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,720 Speaker 1: because no one knows how that's gonna play out. So 986 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna very interesting few weeks. I let's went to 987 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 1: the recruiting class to be dramatically overhauled, unless that is 988 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,120 Speaker 1: the outcome and he's able to work as magic. I 989 00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 1: think fans have to accept this is not gonna be 990 00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: a USC class and pointing on me. All right, man, 991 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,520 Speaker 1: this is awesome. I had Again, I still have a 992 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: million questions. But then let's just make it a regular thing. 993 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 1: Happy back on pack Toble apostles as soon as Ralph. Wow, man, 994 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: that was good. That was a good get buddy, So USC. 995 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's clear here living here that everybody is 996 00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:30,240 Speaker 1: done with Clay Helton. But do you think the new 997 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: athletic director who did the right thing, Mike Bone was like, 998 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's too early to tell on Clay Helton. 999 00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 1: Let's see a good football coaches finished strong. So if 1000 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: he finishes eight and four, can he keep his job? No, 1001 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,680 Speaker 1: he shouldn't. They're done. I mean it's they're they're done, 1002 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: and uh, keeping him he would have such a razor 1003 00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:01,040 Speaker 1: thin margin for error that if they started next year 1004 01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: oh and one, he could get fired. So why why 1005 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 1: even get into that? I think it's pretty much universal 1006 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: that the USC's entire fan base is ready to move on. 1007 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: I personally believe that they would go eight and four 1008 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:18,480 Speaker 1: and it would be good enough to keep him, because 1009 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,680 Speaker 1: I also thought they'd win the back twelveth South, but 1010 01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 1: they've pretty much blown that. So even though they do 1011 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,000 Speaker 1: have that wind over over to Utah, they have a 1012 01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:29,600 Speaker 1: chance to go eight and four, but I don't think 1013 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be enough to be number one in in 1014 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,680 Speaker 1: the pack twelve South unless Utah really slips up. And 1015 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: so here is here is the problem that USC is facing. 1016 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 1: People haven't brought it up. The truth is this, Ralph. 1017 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:52,120 Speaker 1: They are staring September fifth in the face and looking 1018 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:56,560 Speaker 1: at what happened. I think in two thousand eighteen when 1019 01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:06,280 Speaker 1: they played Alabama and at Obama absolutely wrecked them, wrecked them, 1020 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,479 Speaker 1: and oh no, no it was three years ago because 1021 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: there was Sam Donald came in to come play after that, 1022 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 1: so Alabama wrecked him. September they play Alabama in Arlington, 1023 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,880 Speaker 1: the same Alabama is probably not gonna make the playoff 1024 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:25,720 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be super mad and all those freshmen 1025 01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: on defense are gonna be sophomores, and yet two was 1026 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna be be gone. But Bryce Young will find a 1027 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: way to be a good quarterback. Uh. They're staring that 1028 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: in the face and they're trying to drum up some 1029 01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: way to get a victory or not. Look terrible in 1030 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: that game, and I don't think that even hiring even 1031 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,200 Speaker 1: hiring urban Meyer between now and then is not going 1032 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:53,440 Speaker 1: to fix the problem. Would you agree with that? Yeah? 1033 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think that. I think that the 1034 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:58,960 Speaker 1: current trajectory, the trajectory that they are on, is a 1035 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 1: couple of year fixed. Well, But I mean, who wouldn't 1036 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 1: want to be to have an opportunity to go through 1037 01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:09,960 Speaker 1: a rebuild with such high quality products to work with. 1038 01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,120 Speaker 1: I mean, they still are going to have some really 1039 01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,520 Speaker 1: really good players on both sides of the ball that 1040 01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: formed the core of whatever they try to build next. 1041 01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:22,400 Speaker 1: So is James Franklin a good enough higher because you 1042 01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: might do people uh dump on Jim Harbor all the time. 1043 01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: James Franklin doesn't win on the road versus ranked teams either. Yeah, 1044 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: he inherited a worst situation maybe than Michigan didn't get 1045 01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:37,720 Speaker 1: the same type of recruits, but people often question his 1046 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,480 Speaker 1: game management skills and all of that as well. So 1047 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: I don't even, dude, I think that they just need 1048 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 1: to hire a really good football coach and stop worrying 1049 01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,640 Speaker 1: about that Alabama game because that because that Alabama game 1050 01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,920 Speaker 1: is already a loss. Just just let it go. And George, 1051 01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,280 Speaker 1: there's a really good football coach out there that I 1052 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,280 Speaker 1: don't know, if they could get their hands on them, 1053 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,840 Speaker 1: you'd know better than me. But he's got West Coast ties, 1054 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: he's a good recruiter, he can build a staff. And 1055 01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:11,120 Speaker 1: and USC's biggest issue is they need somebody credible to 1056 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,160 Speaker 1: build up his defense so that when that offense goes 1057 01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:19,400 Speaker 1: to work. It's not Willie Taggert. I'm talking about Justin Wilcox. Dude, 1058 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: Justin Wilcox would not go back to USC. They could 1059 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:30,920 Speaker 1: offer thinks billion dollars. He wouldn't go back. Um It, 1060 01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 1: it's just just just the lifestyle and scrutiny name because 1061 01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:39,200 Speaker 1: I honestly where there. Remember that's the only place that 1062 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: he did not do well. He didn't like the culture there. 1063 01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 1: He didn't like you know, all like the the good 1064 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,200 Speaker 1: Old Boys network there, and they're not and he's not 1065 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: a big enough name. I don't think that they will 1066 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 1: be willing to change the way they do business wholesale. Yeah, 1067 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:56,440 Speaker 1: I just think you would have the opportunity to set 1068 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 1: the culture right. And and and I know that the 1069 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 1: belief really is that the culture is bigger than whoever 1070 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 1: the man is in that seat. But in my opinion, 1071 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: that's just probably because you have a guy who's a 1072 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:12,560 Speaker 1: little bit too nice to be there in Clay Helton. 1073 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,200 Speaker 1: I think the right personality who keeps their notes to 1074 01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,920 Speaker 1: the grindstone could go in there, take the bull by 1075 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,800 Speaker 1: the horns, and get something done. The truth is, though, George, 1076 01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,160 Speaker 1: there is no perfect candidate available for this job. I 1077 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: think that James Franklin would be a good personality, might 1078 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: not be the best coach. I think that Justin Wilcox 1079 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,720 Speaker 1: could be the right coach, not the right personality. And 1080 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,600 Speaker 1: obviously you've pointed out the history and I get that 1081 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:38,680 Speaker 1: no matter how successful Mike Norvell is at Memphis, if 1082 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: the a s U job was to ever open up, 1083 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,240 Speaker 1: they'd never bring him back here. And so, like you 1084 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 1: know that that just sort of had you coordinators are. 1085 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,880 Speaker 1: It's a lot easier to burn the bridge if you're 1086 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,720 Speaker 1: a coordinator in a place than if you were I mean, 1087 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,120 Speaker 1: you'd be more likely to hire back a previous head coach. 1088 01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:02,600 Speaker 1: Like imagine that at Lane Lane would take that job 1089 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,440 Speaker 1: at a heartbeat. Buddy Lane would be excited and USC 1090 01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,240 Speaker 1: fans like, well, it wasn't that bad, right, I mean, 1091 01:05:10,320 --> 01:05:13,560 Speaker 1: I don't know who is going to quit their job 1092 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,680 Speaker 1: to take that job. Do you do you know who 1093 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:23,800 Speaker 1: would take this job? Absolutely? Well? Yeah, But but Matt 1094 01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:29,120 Speaker 1: Rule at Baylor. You can get Matt Brule at Baylor, okay, 1095 01:05:29,240 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: or you can get the coach at at Iowa State. 1096 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:38,280 Speaker 1: I forgot his name. Um, yes, Matt Campbell. Okay, So 1097 01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,920 Speaker 1: I think aimes I was a perfect place for Matt Campbell. 1098 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,840 Speaker 1: But he is a he is a man. Those are 1099 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: two names that you I mean, and Matt Rule has 1100 01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: there's no the only two people who have inherited worst 1101 01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:57,960 Speaker 1: jobs have been like Bill O'Brien at Penn State after 1102 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: the Joe paternal thing and Matt Rule at Baylor after 1103 01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:08,280 Speaker 1: the Brill's debacle and all the sexual assault allegations and 1104 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,880 Speaker 1: all of that. You didn't nobody wanted that job, and 1105 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,440 Speaker 1: he and they went one in eleven and now he's 1106 01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,840 Speaker 1: got him undefeated right now, sitting at nine. And oh, 1107 01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,400 Speaker 1: I know they're they're non conference scheduled trash, but that's 1108 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,520 Speaker 1: a rebuilt, dude, that's a rebuilt And p J. Fleck 1109 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,480 Speaker 1: is not available. But if I were you USC, I 1110 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,320 Speaker 1: would be like p J seven and a half mill 1111 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Come on, come on, buddy, I mean, that's the that's 1112 01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: the only thing that you can do. Um. But the 1113 01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,480 Speaker 1: last team up that we got, the last game that 1114 01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:43,040 Speaker 1: we got up is uh, Washington State and Cal. Washington 1115 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: State twenty CAL thirty three. And I, first of all, 1116 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:49,919 Speaker 1: I can't believe cow score thirty three points because since 1117 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:52,880 Speaker 1: Chase Garber's has been out, they have only averaged eight 1118 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:56,760 Speaker 1: and a half points a game. And Washington State, obviously 1119 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,840 Speaker 1: the air raid is built to throw for a lot 1120 01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: of yards a throw for what they score forty yeah, 1121 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:13,200 Speaker 1: uh one yards of total offense four six through the 1122 01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: through the air. Gordon's hit list of thrown for four 1123 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:20,160 Speaker 1: hundred yards. I think he adds Cal and they're great 1124 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,920 Speaker 1: defensive backs. He did it to Arizona State, he did 1125 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,520 Speaker 1: it to Oregon. It's just what he does doesn't mean 1126 01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,160 Speaker 1: that if it results in wins. But yeah, and so 1127 01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:32,720 Speaker 1: I just was talking to some people, some very good 1128 01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 1: defensive people about who have stopped Washington State numerous times, 1129 01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 1: and they told me the secret to stopping the air 1130 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,600 Speaker 1: raid offense. And it's quite simple. But the problem is 1131 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 1: most people don't have the discipline to do it. You 1132 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,360 Speaker 1: you have to you cannot, well, you make them throw 1133 01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: because everything is built upon space. Even Mike Mike Leach 1134 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,760 Speaker 1: talked about it in one of the game day pieces. 1135 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: It's built upon space, and he talked about it on 1136 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:12,480 Speaker 1: the HBO thing space levels and stretching the defense vertically 1137 01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,400 Speaker 1: and horizontally at the same time. So what you have 1138 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:19,400 Speaker 1: to do is you have to make them throw the 1139 01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:23,160 Speaker 1: ball underneath, make them throw those shallow crosses, the little 1140 01:08:23,160 --> 01:08:26,000 Speaker 1: to three yard crosses, and check the ball down to 1141 01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,639 Speaker 1: the backs. And when they do come up and tackle, 1142 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 1: do not try to stop those little short passes. And and 1143 01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,519 Speaker 1: and then a dig a big sixteen twelve yard digger 1144 01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: post is coming right behind to replace you when you 1145 01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: go take it. Because the reality is if you make 1146 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:49,120 Speaker 1: them take twelve fifteen plays to a score and they 1147 01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:52,679 Speaker 1: constantly have to to take checkdowns, the quarterback is gonna 1148 01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,800 Speaker 1: eventually make a bad throw, somebody's gonna drop a pass, 1149 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna have a penalty, you know, And you just 1150 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:02,400 Speaker 1: make them kick field goals all game because they're going 1151 01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,960 Speaker 1: to move the ball and pile up a lot of yards. 1152 01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,320 Speaker 1: But teams often get impatient in trying to stop them. 1153 01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:12,400 Speaker 1: But in reality, you just have to make them just 1154 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,800 Speaker 1: they can play between the twenties, because what happens is 1155 01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 1: is Washington State wants to score before they get to 1156 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 1: the fifteen yard line because once they get to the 1157 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,920 Speaker 1: fifteen yard line, there's not enough space because of the 1158 01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 1: back of the end zone for them to be able 1159 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,280 Speaker 1: to stretch you vertically and horizontally. That's why. And they 1160 01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: don't run the ball well enough. That's why you see 1161 01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 1: them struggle down there so many times. They're always trying 1162 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: to fit things in. There's so much like tipening stuff 1163 01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,360 Speaker 1: when they get them the goal line because there's not 1164 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:44,519 Speaker 1: enough space. So that's how you stop the air raid offense. 1165 01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 1: That's how cal has done it year after year. They 1166 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:50,040 Speaker 1: make you throw. They make them throw the ball underneath. 1167 01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: They don't take the cheese and try to take the 1168 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,920 Speaker 1: short stuff. They give up to three four yards catch 1169 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:03,800 Speaker 1: and then eventually drop ball, sack overthrown ball, something, and 1170 01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,640 Speaker 1: then you'll get an interception. So what you're saying is 1171 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 1: that a s U fans shouldn't have been mad at 1172 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Jack Jones for giving up sixteen receptions against Washington State 1173 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: when he had five pass deflections and eleven solo tackles. 1174 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:19,639 Speaker 1: UH yeah, that, but also in that game they gave 1175 01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 1: up some big plays too. You just have to just 1176 01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:25,479 Speaker 1: sit back, let them throw the ball three or four 1177 01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:28,559 Speaker 1: yards and come up and tackle. Tackling is the most 1178 01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:31,880 Speaker 1: important thing against the are tackling and don't take the 1179 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 1: cheese and let them get deep, make them throw everything 1180 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,439 Speaker 1: underneath and tackle the football. That's how cow beat to 1181 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 1: Washington State every year, or gives them major league trouble 1182 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:47,719 Speaker 1: and somehow, and they ended up getting my I was looking, 1183 01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 1: it looked like they had five or six tackles for 1184 01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,240 Speaker 1: a loss, which is pretty ugh to do against against 1185 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 1: Washington State, they don't even give you time to get well. Well, 1186 01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,240 Speaker 1: the majority of those that were a couple on the 1187 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:03,400 Speaker 1: run plays, but the majority of them were We're like 1188 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 1: throwing the ball to Max Borgie out of the backfield 1189 01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 1: and then getting tackled there. So that's how a lot 1190 01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: of that happened. Okay, so ask me that answer me this, George, 1191 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,160 Speaker 1: are we so in love with offense? Because I mean, 1192 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,679 Speaker 1: we just watched Cliff Kingsbury fail upward into the Arizona 1193 01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:22,519 Speaker 1: Cardinals head coaching job right for for being for not 1194 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:25,560 Speaker 1: being able to play any defensive Texas tech, but he 1195 01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:28,679 Speaker 1: he could run Mike Leach a system, and so everybody 1196 01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 1: wants to score points. Mike Leach is losing and losing 1197 01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,680 Speaker 1: and losing, but he's a sexy name for all of 1198 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:41,800 Speaker 1: these open head coaching positions all over the country. Why 1199 01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,120 Speaker 1: is that That's a good point, dude, Because Arizona Cardinals 1200 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:51,640 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray today four yards, three touchdowns and he was 1201 01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,920 Speaker 1: their leading rusher with three carries for thirty eight yards. 1202 01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: That's the problem with the area and he but he 1203 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,839 Speaker 1: also he broke the NFL record for most past attempts 1204 01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 1: without an interception. So like that, you those but again 1205 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:10,759 Speaker 1: they lost. They lost because you have to have somebody 1206 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:15,599 Speaker 1: that that understands the defensive side of of the football 1207 01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,559 Speaker 1: as well. Do you really think that Mike Leach could 1208 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:23,400 Speaker 1: survive in Tallahassee? But but I'm falling victim to it too. 1209 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,960 Speaker 1: When when Arkansas opened today, I was like, damn, that'd 1210 01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 1: be a great place. See exactly you are. You are right. 1211 01:12:29,240 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: We followed to and love with the offense instead of 1212 01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: paying attention to what the optimal way to win football 1213 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,519 Speaker 1: games is. And there are some coaches who I've talked 1214 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:43,600 Speaker 1: to who are good defensive coaches around around the country. 1215 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,720 Speaker 1: They said they wouldn't go, they wouldn't go coach with 1216 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:50,559 Speaker 1: an air raid coach because the majority of time they 1217 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,959 Speaker 1: are not concerned about the defensive side of the football. 1218 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,120 Speaker 1: So you don't get fair time and coach and practice, 1219 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,519 Speaker 1: you don't get the emphasis is that there's so much 1220 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: time that that that happens. So that's where that lies. There. 1221 01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Who's feeling better about themselves right now? Tracy Clay's or 1222 01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 1: marcell Yates watching their replacements absolutely scrambled to do anything 1223 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,719 Speaker 1: with the same It's Tracy Clays because Arizona State because 1224 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:23,759 Speaker 1: Arizona only played one game without Marcella Yates and Washington 1225 01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:26,240 Speaker 1: State is played two right, two or two or three 1226 01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,760 Speaker 1: and neither one of them went every and gave up 1227 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,719 Speaker 1: thirty three to account team that couldn't score a double digits. 1228 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, so, but it might be Marcella in 1229 01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:37,880 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. He might be the happiest guy. 1230 01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Oh really, really, you thought it was me? Huh? Alright, alright, 1231 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:44,600 Speaker 1: let me know how this works out for you. I 1232 01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: got one more question for you. Does count make a bull? 1233 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Let's just let's throw. Let's throw Garber's out. Let's say, 1234 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: because you figure he's coming back, you got inside information. 1235 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,880 Speaker 1: What if he doesn't. They got three games left. I 1236 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 1: think they got well like you USC U, c l A, 1237 01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:01,080 Speaker 1: Oregon State or something like that. They need one more 1238 01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,200 Speaker 1: win to make a ball. Oh I'm going to be 1239 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: picking them to to beat USC this week. Oh damn okay, 1240 01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:14,599 Speaker 1: because Keaton Slovis got got hurt and and and he 1241 01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,640 Speaker 1: had tears in his eyes. He he didn't come back 1242 01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 1: in the game. Right he did come back? Did yeah? 1243 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,880 Speaker 1: Think through thinks through six passes and then Slovis came 1244 01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 1: back in What's crazy is I think Slovis through for 1245 01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,920 Speaker 1: I want to say, a hundred yards in the final 1246 01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,120 Speaker 1: three quarters. I'm looking at Cow. I think that cow 1247 01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:39,880 Speaker 1: has a because because the Cow's defense is the most 1248 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:44,400 Speaker 1: complicated for packed wealth quarterbacks, and Slovis is a rick 1249 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:50,840 Speaker 1: and and they absolutely put um put the quarterback last 1250 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:54,120 Speaker 1: year j T. Daniels in a mental headlock. That I 1251 01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 1: mean in terms of making reds and all of that. 1252 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:59,599 Speaker 1: They're gonna do the same thing as Slovis. If Monster 1253 01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,080 Speaker 1: can even played remotely as good as he did against 1254 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 1: Washington State, even anywhere near they will be usc I'm 1255 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,880 Speaker 1: letting you know that right now. And then they got Stanford. 1256 01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,719 Speaker 1: Obviously they have a good chance against Stanford. Stanford just lost. 1257 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:20,320 Speaker 1: Stanford just lost to Colorado. Who whose defensive Swiss cheese? 1258 01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 1: So imagine what Cole's defense is gonna do to Stanford. 1259 01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,240 Speaker 1: I mean, but but then did this to Pac twelve. 1260 01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,479 Speaker 1: Who the hell knows Stafford might score fifty points? And 1261 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,800 Speaker 1: then and then Carol plays at U c l A, 1262 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,960 Speaker 1: which is gonna be at hell because U c l 1263 01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,120 Speaker 1: A is gonna make a bowl game. I'd let you 1264 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: know that right now. Bro, did you hear me? Yes? 1265 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:45,759 Speaker 1: I did, Yes, I did. Sorry, I was just sending 1266 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,320 Speaker 1: you that, Okay, I no, No, I just wanted to 1267 01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,639 Speaker 1: I I figured that there must have been some uh 1268 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: some wax in your ears when I said that U 1269 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 1: c l A Was making a bowl game, the same 1270 01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 1: team you said was gonna win one game, right, And 1271 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 1: I was sitting in the side islands, uh, just wondering 1272 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 1: how we got here. Um. Also, guys, there's a cool 1273 01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 1: article up on Unafraid Show. Um, I didn't I didn't write. 1274 01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:16,679 Speaker 1: It was by one of our really good, good writers, 1275 01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:21,120 Speaker 1: Jeremy McCarthy. Um, he wrote an article last last week, 1276 01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,320 Speaker 1: so mind you, he lives in Seattle and he's a 1277 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:28,639 Speaker 1: Washington fan, but some kind of way, the actually this 1278 01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 1: could be his Washington hate showing. In the last two weeks, 1279 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: he's written articles saying that Utah is better than Oregon 1280 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,640 Speaker 1: and this week Tyler Huntley is the best quarterback in 1281 01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,599 Speaker 1: the in the Pact. Weel mind you, he's a stats 1282 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 1: and figures guy, so he's got all types of pro 1283 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,280 Speaker 1: football talk, numbers and all of this stuff. And if 1284 01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,840 Speaker 1: you would like either a good laugh or if you 1285 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:55,840 Speaker 1: would like to jump on the bandwagon, there's that. Um. 1286 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:58,920 Speaker 1: We appreciate your time, We appreciate your energy. Thank you 1287 01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 1: guys for listening to the Pac twelve Apostles. Make sure 1288 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,360 Speaker 1: you guys share the feed, tell a friend about the 1289 01:17:03,400 --> 01:17:06,920 Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles, and peace out. We will catch you 1290 01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,720 Speaker 1: guys on Thursday.