1 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up? 2 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 2: Straight firefam? It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wed's Day, 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: October the second. I'm still looking for a good Halloween costume. 4 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 2: The wife has had some ideas. We try to do 5 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,439 Speaker 2: a joint thing, you know, but I don't know. I 6 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: told the wife listen. I got only a few more 7 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: years of trying to look as good as I can. 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: I need to be flexing the guns on Halloween. Enter 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 2: laugh from all my dad friends who are watching or 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 2: listening to this. No YouTube video for this one, and 11 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: know that I have in my back pocket the Cobra 12 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 2: Kai outfit. I don't mind rocking that on Halloween. It 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 2: is sleeveless but quick programming. Note. Did not watch any 14 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: of the VP debate. Sorry missed it. I'm sure it 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: was thrilling and scintillating and a lot of people change 16 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: their vote based on the VP debate. No, obviously not. 17 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 2: I just we got like thirty days to the election 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 2: something like that. It can't get here soon enough. You know. 19 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 2: The NFL season has been good to me. The gambling 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 2: has been very good. The contest after Monday Night's results, 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: you know, there's like I think fifty four hundred people 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm tied for like three hundred and forty six. Doesn't 23 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: get me paid. But the five and oh two weeks 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 2: ago really good. Sparked my interest. So I'm breaking down 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 2: the games. And to help with that, we got my 26 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: main man, Ta on the pod. Been talking to him. 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: It's weird, you know, he's been coming on. He was 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 2: coming on my radio show. I had a Saturday morning 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 2: radio show for many years, and I've probably I've never 30 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 2: met Ta, but I've talked to him online and on 31 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 2: podcasts now and on the radio probably for close to 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 2: eighty nine years. Sinsane. Never met the guy, but he's sharp. 33 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: He's still alive in Survivor. He entered the Circus Survivor. 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 2: I just did the Circa five picks a week contest, 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 2: so like fourteen thousand people entered. He's one of four 36 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 2: hundred something left. So you're one thousand dollars buy in 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: is now worth an estimated twenty nine thousand, which is 38 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: not a bad ROI and we talk about Survivor, we 39 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: talk about games this week. We both like the Browns. 40 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: I like the Jets. We will see if he gets 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 2: on board. With the Jets. But it's a fun NFL 42 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: talk now. As we were recording on Tuesday, all this 43 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: news broke. Von Miller got suspended, Davante Adams has requested 44 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 2: a trade, and I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm 45 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: not totally buying this Jets Davante Adams. Sure the Jets 46 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 2: could use him, but they got to figure out this 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 2: has on Reddick thing. You know, I know the offense 48 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: lookedn'n em it, but you don't wannat you guys don't 49 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 2: buy low sell high. The Jets right now offense looks horrible, 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: so the Raiders will have him over a barrel. Well, 51 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 2: this team's gonna give us this, that and the other. 52 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: You guys desperate, give us a lot. You have Aaron Rodgers, 53 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: j Jets are gonna get used here. Undeniably. You're gonna 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: hear the Jets, Jets, Jets and Adams, and it's probably 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 2: a smoke screen because they're using the Jets to get 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 2: leverage and get more picks from some one else. Now, 57 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 2: I think, and I've been saying this for years now 58 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: to the faithful listeners, that a quarterback on the rookie 59 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: deal is when you want to go overpay for a 60 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: wide receiver. And the Washington Commanders right now, folks make 61 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 2: a shit ton of sense. Think about it like this. CJ. 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 2: Stroud has a good rookie year. What do the Texans 63 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: go do? Hey, let's go grab Stefan Diggs. Go back 64 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: to Josh Allen's early years of the Buffalo Bills. They 65 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 2: went and got Stefan Diggs to help their young their 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: young quarterback go to even go to Patrick Mahomes. They 67 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 2: went out and got who was the burner, Sammy, Oh 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm space it, Sammy Watkins. I believe from Clemson, 69 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: any team with a quarterback on the rookie deal, I 70 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: can identify good quality wide receivers and go get them 71 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: because it doesn't totally matter since your quarterback is cheap. 72 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, the Washington Commanders make a really really 73 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 2: good connection with DeVante Adams. Raiders have won't have beef 74 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: trading him, right, You're trading to the NFC as opposed 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 2: to the Chiefs who are desperate and could use him. 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: And I still think that makes sense. But are the 77 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 2: Raiders doing that now? There is a world where they 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: just shut down Adams until right up to the deadline 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,839 Speaker 2: where the Chiefs. Then I think they played the Chiefs 80 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: yet they haven't even played the Chiefs yet. You don't 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: want to face DeVante Adams. You know, Patrick Mahomes and 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: Adams are gonna would force feed him and embarrass the Raiders. 83 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: You don't need that, So my guess is they'll hold 84 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: that as long as they can before shipping him to 85 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. I mean, there's Buffalo, Bills makes some sense. 86 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: I think Allan's expensive, but I don't know. Buffalo doesn't 87 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: have a stretch the field. Guy Keon Coleman is a 88 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: solid rookie, but he's not there yet. Besides Washington, the 89 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 2: other team makes a lot of sense as Detroit. But 90 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 2: we get into it talking about it with Ta, and 91 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: I think you guys are gonna like this without further ado, 92 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,799 Speaker 2: Let's get to him, clev Ta, mister Ohio State, Mister 93 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. 94 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: the nation yet. Catch all of our shows boxsports radio 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: listen live. You know, a guy Jason likes to think 98 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: he knows everything when it comes to sports. I know 99 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: what sports dance wants, but for everything he doesn't. He 100 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: knows the guy who does. 101 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: Let's just say I know a guy who knows a 102 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: guy who knows another guy. 103 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome back into straight fire. You know 104 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: him at this point, Ta, he's by request, He's doing 105 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: all these other shows and podcasts. He's got his booming website. 106 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 2: But perhaps most interesting is TA is somehow still alive 107 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 2: in like I think it's a six million dollars survivor 108 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: contest in Vegas. 109 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 3: Fourteen fourteen million, fourteen millionaires. Oh my god, fourteen thousand 110 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: entrants thousand. 111 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 2: Dollars, and how many are left? 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: It's like four it's like four fifty something like that ballpark. 113 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 2: Oh wow, so TA is cooking. I this is my 114 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 2: worst year ever in Survivor. I was out by week two. 115 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: I didn't do buyback or any of that crap. I 116 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, you know, how do you feel? 117 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: Because you can, according to your contest, a circus survivor, 118 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: you could theoretically catch out right now for something like 119 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 2: thirty thousand dollars, right, yeah. 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 3: The theoretical value based on a winner take all pot 121 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 3: and how many entrants are left is about twenty nine 122 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: thirty thousand dollars, and so there I was talking before 123 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: we went on. There's a website called survivor Sweat that 124 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 3: is kind of a marketplace for people that want to 125 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 3: buy and sell pieces of their entry and monetize some 126 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 3: of their you know, some of their entry value. And 127 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,119 Speaker 3: you know, obviously now it might be a little early, 128 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: but you know, you as you get to move along 129 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 3: and you get down to you know, real big chunks 130 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 3: of money, you know, it becomes tempting to sell a 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 3: piece of your or all of your your entry. So 132 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 3: it's something I have to consider. But I'm just trying 133 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 3: to get through the weeks. And it's a crazy that 134 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 3: we're even thinking about this. It's only four weeks in 135 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: and are already down from fourteen thousand to four fifties, 136 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: So that's pretty fun. 137 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Are people able to see what teams you've used in who. 138 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: You had left? 139 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is part of the thing. So you know, 140 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: you can click on when you go in there, you 141 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: can see everyone's entry that's willing to sell, and you 142 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: can click and see who they've used already. So obviously 143 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 3: there's a lot of game theory and strategy, so I've 144 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: so far, I've used Minnesota, Houston, the Jets, and I 145 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 3: just used San Francisco last week, So you know, use 146 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 3: some pretty good teams, but I also have some good 147 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: teams remaining this week. Seattle is going to be a 148 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: really pop Seattle in San Francisco are the two most 149 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: popular plays because they're the two largest favorites, and so 150 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: if you're looking to get in, you probably want to 151 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 3: find an entry that still has one or both of 152 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 3: those teams remaining as an entry. So that's where it 153 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: gets from an investor point of view looking at things 154 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 3: like that. Then also, you know, this is the way 155 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: Circus Survivor works. It's a twenty week contest. It's eighteen 156 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 3: NFL regular season weeks, and then it's the two holiday weeks, 157 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: so it's Thanksgiving and Christmas weeks are a standalone. You 158 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 3: have to find one team in each of those weeks, 159 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: but there's only you know, three three games in each 160 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 3: of those days, and so it makes it really difficult. 161 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: So you have to hold back good teams as well 162 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 3: for those games. So you know, I still have Kansas City, 163 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: who's going to be an option in both you know, 164 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: so Dallas who could be an option on Thanksgiving versus 165 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: the Giants, So all of those things. If you know 166 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: you're looking to sell or buy an entry, considering you 167 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: know who these entrants have left going forward is a 168 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: big factor. 169 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: Would you consider the Bears this week? They are three 170 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: and a half four at home against Carolina. Not a 171 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 2: lot of big spreads. I think there's been one double 172 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: digit spread this season. Nine ers they covered, but the 173 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 2: dogs of I think under it's like between five and 174 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: five or more were running super hot earlier this season. 175 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: But I don't know. Bears are an interesting one this week. 176 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: I I'll tell you my theory in a second, but 177 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: go ahead. 178 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, honestly, it's the only Tuesday. So I'm like, 179 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: I haven't mapped it all out, you know, on my 180 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 3: website and you're a subscriber. I do have a Survivor 181 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 3: tool that you can optimize kind of your path based 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: on just only based on when probability, nothing else. Now, 183 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: the problem with you know, survivor not a problem, but 184 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 3: part of it is it's half kind of quantitative and 185 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 3: call dative. Do you want to know what the win 186 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: probabilities are in an optimal path, but then you also 187 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,199 Speaker 3: want to know it's game theory, who everybody else is taking, 188 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: who are the more popular teams? What you need to 189 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 3: hold back and save, you know, in terms of future value. 190 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 3: So there's all those sorts of things which are interesting. 191 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 3: But yeah, the Bears are you know in that list, 192 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 3: I've already used San Francisco. You know, Seattle would be next, 193 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: that'd be one that's high on my list. Likely there 194 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 3: are I think six six and a half point favorites 195 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 3: versus the Giants. Yeah, and then it starts to get 196 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: into that you know, hey, it's a two or three 197 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: or four point favorite, and do you really want to 198 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: back you know, Caleb Williams with my life on the line. 199 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 3: I know Carolina is not good, but you know they're 200 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: feisty with Andy Dalton. And so that's where it gets 201 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: it gets interesting, is is you know, do you want 202 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 3: to put your entire survivor life on a team like that? 203 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: You know, it's something I have to weigh. So I 204 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 3: haven't gotten to that point still. Early I got to 205 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: see injury reports and all those sorts of things, but 206 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 3: definitely it's it's among the group of teams that I 207 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: would consider. 208 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I've told people your pite Cleve 209 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: Analytics is amazing and I'm sure you can track how 210 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: many times people visit. I'm on there multiple times a 211 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 2: day because I love your write up. So a lot 212 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: of people are like, oh, just give me the picks 213 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 2: those guys, I don't like that. I like your write ups. 214 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: Now I don't always agree with you, And for instance, 215 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 2: last week, I think you had Jags right. You like them, 216 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 2: and I bet them, but I didn't put them in 217 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 2: the contest, obviously regrettable, and instead I went with Atlanta, 218 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: those choke artists who I knew would screw me and 219 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: they did. But like I like your breakdowns, it is 220 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 2: early in the week, but I'm curious ta. I just 221 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: this is like a basic starting point for me that 222 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: I've done the last couple of years, where you look 223 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 2: at teams that are playing and they last week teams 224 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 2: that did not cover versus teams that did cover, And 225 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: often I found that the line is skewed because of 226 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: the public perception. Like Washington after that game against Cincinnati 227 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: where they covered one national product, we knew that they 228 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: were going to be an interesting spot against Arizona. I 229 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 2: was on Arizona in the contest. They got their doors 230 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: blown off, but I'm looking again at Washington. This week 231 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 2: they're facing the Browns. The Browns did not cover last week, 232 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 2: and that's one of the games that I have there 233 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 2: is I think seven of them this week teams that 234 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: did coververs did not. And that line just doesn't make sense. 235 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 2: I saw someone reference that in the I guess in 236 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 2: the summer they list lines for games, and this was 237 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 2: like Browns minus four and a half or something, and 238 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: now Washington's favorite by three and a half. And that's 239 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: just a game I had to bet early. I am curious, though, 240 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 2: you're mister Cleveland. The injuries are brutal on this offensive line. 241 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny. So you highlighted the preseason number. It 242 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 3: might have been from my write up that it's closed 243 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,839 Speaker 3: this morning because I'm on the Browns, and so I 244 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: just wrote, you know, I do this NFL preview. I 245 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: came on here and we could talk about that. But 246 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: you know, I put together this preview and I've got, 247 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 3: you know, my predictions and all of that, and I 248 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: have my own ratings, and I run through the schedule 249 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 3: and kind of simulate a season. I had Browns minus 250 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 3: five before the season. Now, obviously things have changed, and 251 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 3: Washington's way better and Jaden Daniels is awesome, and that 252 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: offense is awesome, and they're and teams out good teams, 253 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 3: and you know now that line I think going in 254 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: the last week, the line was just like a pickup 255 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: or one point either way. It wasn't it wasn't a 256 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 3: big difference. And now it's three and a half with 257 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 3: Washington favored. And so you get that where you get 258 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: these upstart teams that you know, blow away expectations and 259 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 3: they're way better than you know, what our prior thoughts 260 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 3: were on these teams, and there's a huge market adjustment. 261 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 3: You got to be careful because look ahead lines, people 262 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: reference those all the time. They're very ill liquid markets. 263 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 3: You can't really bet a lot of money into them, 264 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: so it's not as you know, efficient as the current line. 265 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 3: So but it's just it's interesting to note that and 266 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: just to see the shift in market perception on these teams. 267 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: And that's what we saw last week with Jacksonville and Houston. 268 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 3: I think that that line prior to the Buffalo Jacksonville 269 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: game was like three and a half or four, and 270 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: then it reopened and shot all the way up to seven. 271 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 3: And I bet seven, and I you know, wrote that 272 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 3: up on the site and did a whole breakdown, and 273 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 3: so I know a lot of my subscribers took it 274 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: also when it was at seven, it ended up closing 275 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: like five and a half or six, and they covered 276 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 3: and they should have likely should have won that game. 277 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: But you know, you get these overreactions and you just 278 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 3: have to step back, and you can't just blindly take 279 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 3: the overreaction, but you have to have some fundamentals behind it. 280 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 3: And so in a situation like this, I think that 281 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 3: the Browns are a good play at three and a half, 282 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 3: you know, at a little less. So at three maybe 283 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: if you're not paying a lot of juice, if it's 284 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 3: you know, plus one hundred plus one oh five, it's 285 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 3: probably okay. But I think this will end up closing 286 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 3: at three. I think a lot of people are thinking 287 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: about it the same way. So the Browns, I've obviously 288 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: struggled offensive line, tons of issues. They may or may 289 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 3: not get back one of their left tackles this week. It's, 290 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 3: you know, between Jedrick Wills and Jack Conklin who've been out. 291 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 3: Jedrick Wills only played one game. Conklin's missed the whole 292 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 3: season so far. They really need to solidify the left 293 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: side of that line. They lost their center Ethan Posk 294 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 3: during the game against the Raiders. He may or may 295 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 3: not play, so those obviously will help. And I think 296 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 3: the three and a half reflects kind of the worst 297 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: case scenario that none of those guys play, and so 298 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,959 Speaker 3: any sort of positive news I think would would be helpful. 299 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: From that regard. They may get David and Joku back. 300 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 3: Their tight end who's pretty explosive, can add a different element. 301 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: And look, you're going up against the Washington defense that Yeah, 302 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 3: they played well last week against Arizona, but this is 303 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: one of the worst defenses in the NFL. You know, 304 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 3: they have one of the worst second years in the NFL, 305 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 3: the worst pass defense. A lot of metrics are having them. 306 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 3: You know, we're thirty second, thirty first in the league. 307 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: You can move the ball on them. And Deshaun Watson, 308 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 3: for all the angst about him, was actually pretty good. 309 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 3: If you watch that game last week, he was pretty solid. 310 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: There was a huge drop by Amari Cooper deep into 311 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 3: the Raiders territory that would have been you know, first 312 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 3: down at the twenty yard line. Instaid, it pops off 313 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: off his chest and gets returned for interception. You have 314 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 3: the eighty three yard touchdown throw to Cooper that was 315 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: a great play by by Watson to get out of 316 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 3: the pocket and find him down the field that gets 317 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: called back for a very questionable holding call by the center. 318 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: And so those are there this close to you know, 319 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 3: potentially winning that game and maybe winning by a significant margin. 320 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 3: Instead they lose, and and you know, the perception is 321 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: pretty negative on them. I thought he played fine. If 322 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: he plays like that again and you get some of 323 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: those lucky breaks to go the Browns away instead, I 324 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 3: think they can win this game out right. So I 325 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: just think, and it's just Jayden Daniels has face has 326 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 3: been awesome, but he's faced a really easy schedule of 327 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 3: opposing defenses, maybe three of the worst defenses the NFL 328 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 3: last few weeks. And look, he's passed the test with 329 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: flying Colors, but this is a major step up going 330 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 3: against this Browns defense. Is coulda be aggressive that as 331 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: a real pass rush in a real secondary. So it's 332 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: gonna be a great test for Daniels and for the Browns. 333 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 3: And I just think getting points, getting three and a 334 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 3: half is a good number here for the Browns like that. 335 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 2: Let me ask you, you do a thing on one 336 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: score games. Everybody looks at that in the offseason, and 337 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 2: everybody's waiting for Pittsburgh to regress. I think it's three 338 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: straight years of one score results. Let me just throw 339 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: one at you. That's interesting. The Kansas City Chiefs are 340 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: four and oh. They beat the Ravens by seven by 341 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: a toe. They get lucky against the Bengals and win 342 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 2: by one. They get real lucky in the finals six 343 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: minutes against the Falcons, win by five, and they have 344 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 2: to rally to beat the Chargers by seven. So they're 345 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 2: four to zero win one score games. They now are 346 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 2: without Hollywood Brown for the season, for Checko for a while, 347 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: and Rashid Rice. It feels like probably the regular season. 348 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 2: Ta is there a world where this Kansas City Chiefs 349 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 2: team relying solely on Mahomes? I mean they tried Carson 350 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: Steele at running back. He fumbles back to back weeks. 351 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, let's put kree Mount in. There is 352 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 2: there a world to miss the playoffs Kansas City chief 353 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: or or to make the playoffs. They're minus ten thousand, 354 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 2: but no is plus two thousand. Is this flushing money 355 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: or can you envision a scenario orre with no weapons? 356 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 2: Regression in one score games, the defense has been good, 357 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 2: not amazing. Is there a war where they miss the playoffs? No, damnity, 358 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: this great thing worked up. 359 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 3: Wait, look look at their division. Who are they going 360 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: to lose to in division between the Chargers, the Denver 361 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 3: and Las Vegas. You know, that's five more games against 362 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 3: teams that you should go at work four and one against. 363 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 3: And so right there, you've got eight wins, Like it 364 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: doesn't take much for them to get into the playoffs. 365 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: And so you know that's really the question for me. 366 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 3: You know, they got Carolina that they still play. You know, 367 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 3: they've got Pittsburgh the Browns, Like they've got very winnable games. 368 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: Look the thing about one score games. I'm looking back 369 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 3: at my preview now because I talk about kind of 370 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: the quote unquote luck factors with each of these teams. 371 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 3: You know, they went six and five last year in 372 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,159 Speaker 3: one score games in the regular season. That's six straight 373 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 3: seasons that they've finished over five hundred in close games. 374 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 3: And you know, typically, you know I talk about you 375 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 3: should see some regression and regression till about fifty to fifty, right, 376 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: But when you also consider that you've got, you know, 377 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 3: one of the best quarterbacks we've ever seen. You've got 378 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: a Hall of Fame coach, and you have a clutch kicker. 379 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: You know, say what you will about Bucker off the field, 380 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 3: but he is an amazing kicker and he just doesn't 381 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: miss in the clutch. You've got all of those things, 382 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 3: You're gonna win a lot of those close games more 383 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 3: often than not versus like your your average team. So yeah, 384 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I do think the fact that 385 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 3: they play with their food a little bit, and they'll 386 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: you know, they might have a stretch sometime this year 387 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 3: like last year, well you know, maybe they lose three 388 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 3: out of four or something like that, but they'll, you know, 389 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: when it's all said and done, they're going to make 390 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 3: the playoffs. They're going to turn around when they need to. 391 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 3: You know, they've got a really good defense. Still, you've 392 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 3: got the great quarterback of Mahomes. I think they're going 393 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 3: to make a trade for a receiver, maybe Amari Cooper 394 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 3: is Mary Cocher. Yeah, that's a potential option with the Browns. 395 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 3: You know, Browns have the toughest remaining schedule in the 396 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 3: NFL like they they're not they're not going to make 397 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: the playoffs. That's he's a free agent at the end 398 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: of the year. I think he's an option. You know, 399 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 3: I talked about DeVante Adams. Maybe not the Raider, you know, 400 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 3: maybe the Raiders don't want to trade within the division, 401 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,199 Speaker 3: but he's thirty two years old. He's not he's not 402 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 3: there for the long term. I think you got to 403 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 3: get something for him. He makes a lot of money. 404 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 3: That's a potential option. I think that they can. You know, 405 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 3: DeAndre Hopkins is another guy. I think if they can 406 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: add a receiver like that, who can at least give 407 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: them some stability to go with Xavier Worthy. You know, 408 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 3: you know, Kelsey's gonna have to step it up here. 409 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 3: I think they'll be fine. They've got a good enough defense. 410 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 3: This is not like the Mahomes Chiefs of three or 411 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 3: four years ago, where they had one of the worst 412 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 3: defenses of the NFL and you got to score thirty 413 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: points every game. They've got a legit top five to 414 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: ten defense that they can lean on, even like last 415 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 3: week's game. So yeah, I don't I understand the idea, 416 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 3: but it's just when you had a head start like 417 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 3: this and you're playing a division like you know, the 418 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: AFC West, which is the worst, probably the worst of 419 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 3: the NFL outside of the Chiefs, or one of the worst. 420 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: It's really hard some nice I just figured Pete to 421 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,400 Speaker 2: throw twenty bucks on it if Mahome should go down. 422 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 2: You're feeling great, Not that I'm rooting for anybody. Okay, 423 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 2: let's go to another go Oh. Your great call in 424 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: the offseason was the Vikings. They've been tremendous. You could 425 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 2: argue best coach team in the NFC, maybe the NFL, 426 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 2: although Spags and Reid are unsurpassed. But I'm looking to 427 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 2: bet the Jets this week if I can get that three. 428 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: I see two and a half everywhere. I think the 429 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: Jets were minus two and a half and now it's 430 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 2: they're two and a half point dogs. I know it's 431 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 2: not through a key number, but still, I feel like 432 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 2: the Jets bouncing back against the Vikings, who everybody loves 433 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: now feels like a good bet. 434 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 3: Your thoughts, Yeah, I mean we talked about on the 435 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: show before the season started. Vikings were my sleeper of 436 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 3: the NFC. I had them winning ten games and I 437 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 3: have them. You know you're a subscriber to the site. 438 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 3: I have like a future section where I talked about 439 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: the win total going over the alternate win total to 440 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 3: make the playoffs. I didn't do wind division because I thought, 441 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: you know, it was a little bit too much exposure. 442 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 3: But you know that's obviously potentially out there. And I 443 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,959 Speaker 3: had Kevin O'Connell and I posted this, you know, in 444 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 3: my preview and you know, for subscribers, twenty five to 445 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: one to win Coach of the Year. I just saw 446 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 3: this morning. He's plus one hundred. He's a huge favorite 447 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: right now. So you know things are going well, knock 448 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:39,959 Speaker 3: on wood. But at any time, you know, Sam Darnald 449 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 3: can just kind of go back to where you know, 450 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 3: you're pumpkin Sam Donald and he's throwing interceptions. You know, 451 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,400 Speaker 3: he hasn't been It's funny. He's kind of the one 452 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 3: of the top leaders of MVP and he's been great 453 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: for what you expected. But if you look at some 454 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 3: of his graining in some of his throws, like he 455 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: does have a lot of turnover worthy sort of throws 456 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 3: that's he's gotten lucky with. He could have a few 457 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: more interceptions and he has but you know, I'm not 458 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,119 Speaker 3: gonna take that away from him. He's been awesome and 459 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 3: they're coming. They're going out to these huge leads and 460 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 3: then just you know, unleashing the dogs on defense with 461 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 3: this you know, cover zero blitzing that Brian Flores does. 462 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 3: He's awesome. And one of the reasons, probably the biggest 463 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 3: reason why I liked the Minnesota going into the year 464 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 3: as a sleeper is the coaching staff. Like you mentioned, 465 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 3: koc is a great offensive mind. We saw what he 466 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 3: did with guys like Josh Stobbs and Nick Mullins last year. 467 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: You know, he held he kept that team afloat. They 468 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 3: were winning some games and then it you know, collapsed 469 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 3: at the end. But I figured, if he could do 470 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 3: that with those guys, you bring a much more talent, 471 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 3: you know, a much much more talented quarterback and the 472 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,400 Speaker 3: guy like Sam Darnold. You still have justin Jefferson. You've 473 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 3: got a top ten offensive line, and you have a 474 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 3: good running back. I thought the acquisition of Aaron Jones 475 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: was awesome. I think he adds a lot in that perspective. 476 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 3: And then you add Brian Flores, like you've got the 477 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 3: ingredients to at least at worst, I thought would be 478 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: competitive and win eight to ten games, and you know 479 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 3: they've been much better than that. I actually agree with you. 480 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 3: I thought last week was going to be the week 481 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 3: where you know, then come down to Earth and the 482 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 3: Packers would have won that game. But I was surprised 483 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: as well that they came out and blitzed Green Bay 484 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 3: from the very beginning and confused him. I don't I 485 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: want to see how Aaron Rodgers does against those blitz 486 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 3: He struggled badly against the Broncos, who blitzed a lot. 487 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: They're one of the highest blitz britz blitz packages and 488 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 3: rates of the NFL, and Brian Flores is always at 489 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: the top. So I'm curious to see if they're going 490 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 3: to make any adjustments. The one thing that the Jets 491 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 3: do that Aaron Rodgers has always done with Hackett as 492 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 3: an OC, they play very slow, very deliberate. They take 493 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 3: He takes the clock down all the time to the 494 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,880 Speaker 3: very end. So as a defense, you can time that 495 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: and you can get in from a blitz perspective because 496 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 3: you know exactly when they have to snap it, and 497 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 3: so they're gonna have to change that cadence. They're gonna 498 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 3: Maybe I could see them going no huddle a little 499 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 3: bit or going quicker. That's something that I think to 500 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: keep the defense a little bit on their heels. And 501 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 3: who knows. With this ankle injury, and now to go 502 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 3: with the Achilles issue, I mean, he can't really move, 503 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 3: so he's going to be sitting duck there. If they don't, 504 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: I'll switch things up and go quick. Now, the good 505 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: news is the last two weeks, you know, Garrett Wilson 506 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 3: has been shut down by Patrick certain and Christian Gonzales. 507 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 3: You don't have that on the side or the Vikings, 508 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 3: so I think you can get some quick separation from him. 509 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 3: So look for him to have a big game. And 510 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: you know, if I had to pick, I'm not betting 511 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 3: either way. But if I had to pick, I agree 512 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 3: the Jets on the right side. Don't worry about the three. 513 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 3: I don't think you're gonna get it. It's one of 514 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 3: those where I think I don't think you'll necessarily need 515 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,479 Speaker 3: it and you don't want to pay up for it. 516 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 3: So if I had to bet, I said, viact the Jets, 517 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 3: But it's not something I'm looking to to take right now. 518 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 519 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 520 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 521 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: listen live. 522 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 2: All Right, I just got an alert on my phone 523 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: in real time that DeVante Adams has informed the Raiders 524 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: he would like to be traded. Everybody can see this coming. 525 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: Here's my thing, TA from a gambling point of view, 526 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: is there a team that you think he could land 527 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: with that's maybe not necessarily an elite team that we 528 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 2: could bet on, that's second tier where he would then 529 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 2: vault them to the next level. I'll start with one, 530 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: and again, they don't really need offense, they need defense. 531 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 2: But Washington quarterback on the rookie deal. I know mclaurin's 532 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: very good, but you give Cliff Kingsbury another weapon. With 533 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 2: the way that offense is playing, Dallas looks vulnerable injuries 534 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 2: to the defense, Philly banged up. I mean, I don't 535 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 2: want to say Washington can run away with this division, 536 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 2: but you add Devonte Adams. I mean it feels like 537 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: the move is you got CJ. Strout on the rookie deal. 538 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 2: Let's go get Stefan Diggs. Right. They just did that 539 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: this offseason. The smart teams with the cheap quarterback. Go 540 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 2: get Davonte Adams. Who do you see if anyone else 541 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 2: out there that maybe we could bet on a futures price. 542 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. You you know Gannon a little bit, 543 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: Arizona Cardinals no defense whatsoever, But Harrison McBride and DeVante 544 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: they're throwing scare and a big scare in of some teams. 545 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think they're They're kind of in that 546 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: building phades, They're okay, kind of They're not looking to 547 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,439 Speaker 3: make the playoffs this year, so I'm not sure that 548 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 3: they're one of those teams. And Washington, you know, maybe, 549 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 3: but they're they they're fine like that. They are, they're 550 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: one of the they're the best offense in the NFL 551 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: right now, So I'm not sure they necessarily need to 552 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: do anything like that. I'll tell you a couple of 553 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 3: teams just as you brought that up that I think 554 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 3: are really interesting. One that stands out and you might 555 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 3: be surprised. I think Detroit could use somebody on the outside. 556 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 3: I mean, Jamison Williams is awesome for the occasional explosive play. 557 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,640 Speaker 3: It's not a guy that you know if it's third 558 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 3: and five you're necessarily gonna go. Do you could double 559 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: Saint Brown? It would be nice to have another option. Now, 560 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 3: maybe they don't need Devonte Adams, but I think, you know, 561 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 3: a guy like Hopkins, somebody who on the other side 562 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 3: outside could be really interesting. So that's one, you know, maybe, 563 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously he's not gonna go back to Green Bay, 564 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,239 Speaker 3: I don't think, but they you know, they can use 565 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 3: our more a veteran, reliable receiver. They got a bunch 566 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 3: of young guys, and they just lost Kristen Watson potentially 567 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 3: for a while with that high ankle sprain. So he's 568 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 3: a guy that you know, maybe Green Bay and then Pittsburgh. 569 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 3: You know, Pittsburgh doesn't have anything outside of George Pickens, 570 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 3: and they were obviously in on Brandon Ayuk. They need 571 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: another weapon. I don't think they're real contenders, but look, 572 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 3: they got a really good defense, justin fields is playing fine. 573 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: They got a good run run game. Another offensive line 574 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 3: does need some help because there's some injuries there. But yes, 575 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 3: George Pickens and nobody else. They could use a guy 576 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 3: like Devonte Adams. So those are just you know, if 577 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 3: you're talking about non kind of Kansas City teams. Those 578 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: are a couple that I think stand out, but Detroit 579 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 3: would be really fun. 580 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: I think certainly Buffalo Bills. 581 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: Buffalo is another one. You're right like, I'm not sure 582 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 3: how it works with the cap with them. I'd have 583 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 3: to look at that obviously from from a money perspective, 584 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 3: but yeah, they definitely need a guy. We saw it 585 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 3: with with Baltimore. Yeah, against Jacksonville and teams like that. 586 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: You can get away with having guys like Shakir and 587 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: Keon Colman, but you can't trust Keon Coleman yet. He 588 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 3: dropped that a deep ball that he should have caught, 589 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 3: and having a reliable weapon out there would be interesting. 590 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 3: I really think that Buffalo is okay kind of sitting 591 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: it out this year, getting things kind of revamped on 592 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 3: the contract situation. They cleared the decks, they let you know, 593 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: digs go. I think they want to give it a 594 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: year and then come back next year. Look, when you 595 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 3: got a you know, one of the best quarterbacks in 596 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,439 Speaker 3: the NFL on a contract for a long period of 597 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 3: time and he's still young, you don't necessarily have to 598 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 3: make panic moves to win today. You can kind of 599 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 3: hold off you need too, so I think that one. 600 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 3: You know, it sounds great on paper. If they could 601 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 3: figure it out cap perspective, you know, it might be 602 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 3: worth it. But you know, I'm not sure that's that's 603 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 3: a fit right now. 604 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 2: Last one real quick, Dallas, very reliant upon Ceede Lamb. 605 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 2: The defense stinks. They got issues. There were no run 606 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: game to speak of. But you know, I don't know 607 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 2: that DeVante Adams makes them an elite team because their 608 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: defense is so bad. 609 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a problem. I think that they're soft in 610 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 3: the middle. We saw the Ravens exploit them a lot, 611 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: and it's going to happen in the playoffs too if 612 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 3: they're not careful. And now now that person's got the 613 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 3: high ankle and you've got Lawrence's out a couple of weeks. 614 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 3: Their their defense is in trouble, and they've got a 615 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 3: really tough schedule coming up. Actually, if you look at 616 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 3: market ratings and you plug that into the schedule, they're 617 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 3: only expected to win about nine games. They're going to 618 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: miss the playoffs at this rate. They've got a much 619 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 3: tougher schedule than anyone predicted because of teams like Washington, right, 620 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: they've got to play them twice. You normally would you 621 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 3: would not have thought that is a difficult game heading 622 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 3: in the season. Now they're much much better than we thought, 623 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: so their schedule is tough. This is a tough week 624 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 3: going into Pittsburgh at night without with a rough offensive 625 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 3: line and without your best two defenders. So yeah, I'm 626 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: not sure they're in that category yet because I'm not 627 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: sure they're real contenders at this point. But I like 628 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 3: Steeler option. 629 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 2: I like Steelers in that game is it. I mean, 630 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: I know it's early, but any lean Steelers Cowboys. 631 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 3: I would lean Pittsburgh under the three. You know, I 632 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 3: don't like if it hits Threy, I definitely don't like Pittsburgh. 633 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, at home at night after that loss, they 634 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: can run the ball with Najie Harris. I will see 635 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 3: if Warren comes back. They can't pound the Roka over 636 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 3: the middle that that defensive line. You know, their their 637 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: offensive line is decimated. They also right tackle last week. 638 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: They just lost Hudson, their guards, so you know there 639 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: is an issue. But they don't have much on defense 640 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: from a pass rust perspective. If you're Dallas without Parsons 641 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: and Lawrence. So I would lean Pittsburgh, but haven't taken 642 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 3: that or anything yet. 643 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 2: Just two more real quick So divisional dog. Last week 644 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 2: you nailed Jags and Texans. There's another big divisional dog 645 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: this week. This is one you might have to hold 646 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: your nose. But the Arizona Cardinals, who have no defense 647 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: whatsoever against the Niners and Rock Purdy. It's weird. Ta 648 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: I'm watching Rock Purty and he doesn't have McCaffrey, and 649 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: the offense looks like it's flowing pretty damn smoothly. I 650 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: yukes ot up to speed, Deebo's back, kittles back. I 651 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 2: know McCaffrey's going to be out a while. I feel 652 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 2: like they're still like close to Niners without with McCaffrey, 653 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: even without him, because I think Mason's good, but I 654 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 2: don't know if I can get in front of him 655 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: and take the Cardinals. Here are the Cardinals aside. 656 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 3: If I had to, yeah, at seven and a half. 657 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 3: If they get McBride back, which I expect him to 658 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: be cleared from his concussion, they're gonna they've got enough 659 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 3: offense to move it. The thing about San Francisco, dirty 660 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 3: little secret. Their defense is not all that great. No, 661 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: you can run on them, you know, New England was 662 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: not the team with that offensive line troubles at preset 663 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 3: last week. That is not the team to exploit it. 664 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 3: I think Arizona can stay with them and attract me. 665 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: Problem is their defense is so beat up and it's 666 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: so bad. The one thing I was surprised at last week. 667 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: I thought it would be a shootout with Washington. They 668 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: only scored fourteen points. They had an opening drive touchdown 669 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: to Harrison, it looked great. Didn't do anything after that. 670 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 3: Kyler Murray looked off like he didn't even try to scramble. 671 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 3: He had one rush for three yards. He never even 672 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 3: tried to get out of the pocket. Now, I don't 673 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 3: know if that's a cliff. Kingsbury knows how to defend 674 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: him type of deal, and they did a really good 675 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 3: job kind of keeping them in the pocket. But he 676 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: did not seem like himself. They didn't he didn't use 677 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: his legs. So I want to make sure hopefully he's 678 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 3: healthy and there's nothing going on there. Almost felt like 679 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 3: he looked like he was sick, like he just wasn't 680 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: into it. And so hopefully he bounces back this week, 681 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: because I think a normal Arizona offense can move the 682 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: ball and can at least at worse. You get a 683 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 3: backdoor situation at seven and a half that's available, and 684 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: a guy like Kyler Mury is really good historically getting 685 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 3: a lot of points here because of that. 686 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and lastly, I think Buffalo Houston is a sneaky 687 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 2: good matchup. I'll be honest. I'm not as like, oh 688 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: Buffalo super Bowl about as everyone else. I just see 689 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 2: this team's very limited. I know they blew the doors 690 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 2: off the Jags, but defensively, I don't think they're great. 691 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: We just saw what it's like. I know they were 692 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: down a couple of linebackers, but geez, Derek Henry had 693 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: like two hundred yards rushing. I don't know. It looks 694 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: like Joe Mixon is gonna come back. I'm kind of 695 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 2: leaning Houston here, although I know the track record of 696 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 2: teams that lose by you know what, twenty five or 697 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 2: more points bouncing back the next week is strong. I 698 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: don't know. For me, it's Houston or pass. 699 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. The one thing that was a bad matchup for 700 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 3: Buffalo they have small they have a smaller defensive line linebackers. 701 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: They're really soft up the middle, and Baltimore exploited them 702 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: big time. You don't really have that with Houston. You know, 703 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 3: they're not a run first team. You know Mixon, who'll 704 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 3: be coming off that injury if he plays, you know, 705 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 3: he's not a power rusher. He doesn't have the same 706 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 3: legs he had in the past. He was. There's something 707 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 3: about Houston that's been off this year, right Like if 708 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 3: I don't know if you watched them last week, they 709 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 3: just they let teams hang around. I mean with Chicago 710 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, they should have blown that 711 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,959 Speaker 3: team out, only won by six. I mean Chicago had 712 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,239 Speaker 3: the ball with a chance to win the game at 713 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 3: the end, and you know that doesn't look like a 714 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: great win. You know, the opener against the Colts, they 715 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: let them come back and you know, almost blew that one. 716 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 3: They win by two. They get blown out by Minnesota. 717 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 3: You know they're down to the Jags for most of 718 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 3: that game. I mean the Jags, you know, had a 719 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 3: fourth down stop at the one, which you know was 720 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 3: the difference in the game. Like, you know, they're keeping 721 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,080 Speaker 3: all these games close there. They have not covered the spread, 722 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: by the way, they're own four against the spread. I 723 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: saw it, and let's stick back to last year even 724 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 3: early this year. Who have they stepped up to in 725 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: terms of level of competition besides Baltimore in the playoffs 726 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: where you can say that was that was a win 727 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: against an elite team. They haven't really faced many you know, 728 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 3: they didn't face Ball, you know, they faced Baltimore, and 729 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 3: they didn't face Kansas City, they didn't face San Francisco, 730 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 3: you know, didn't face Detroit like they and haven't faced 731 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: Buffalo yet. This is a step up in class for them, 732 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 3: so you know, maybe they can do it. And Stroud's awesome. 733 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: Like I said, I think there's just something missing there. 734 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: It's not necessarily the perfect matchup. You get Josh Allen. 735 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, their weapons aren't great, but he just 736 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: he makes so many plays and he extends drives and 737 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,719 Speaker 3: hopefully Sean McDermott just man, he's an I called him 738 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 3: an unseerious coach on Sunday because if you watch that game, like, 739 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 3: how are you punting? Well, you can't stop Baltimore. You're 740 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 3: punting at midfield with Josh Allen on fourth and one. 741 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 3: I don't understand that that mentality, Uh, just the like 742 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: the try not to lose mentality just baffles me. He 743 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: does it all the time, and so uh if he 744 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 3: can be a little more aggressive, uh, I you know 745 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 3: that line open one, Buffalo is favored, got some money 746 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 3: to Houston, and now it's back to Buffalo one. It's 747 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: this ping ponging back and forth. I think you've got 748 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 3: two different points of view. I think sharp Shark guy 749 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 3: like both sides. From my understanding is like different groups 750 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: like both. So yeah, I would lean Buffalo just because 751 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 3: I think it's a step up in class for Houston. 752 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: They just haven't impressed me that much. And I do 753 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 3: like getting Buffalo off of a ball. But I'm not 754 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 3: like dying. I'm not running to bet that right now. 755 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 2: It's a coin toss game. I should add, as we're 756 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 2: recording just a moment ago. Von Miller has been suspended 757 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: for four games for violating the Personal Conduct Policy, so 758 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: he will be out. So I mean we could be 759 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: down three of their front seven guys, depending on if 760 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 2: Bernard comes back again. I don't know that von Miller's 761 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: worth a point at all, or even I'm sorry, not 762 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: half a point or anything. But when you start compounding 763 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 2: all these losses on the defensive side of the ball, 764 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, Joe Mixon, it feels like that 765 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: offense is just way better, way better with Joe Mixon 766 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 2: in Houston. 767 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 3: He does add a little bit more of explosiveness, especially 768 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 3: you know in the past game camp makers. This isn't 769 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 3: that guy. Yeah, I'm actually surprised. Maybe I haven't paid 770 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 3: attention to von Miller's got He's got three sacks, thirteen 771 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 3: pressures like he's he's grading out really well, so that 772 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 3: you know, they are deep at edge, you know, with 773 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 3: with aj Panessa and greg Usso. But yeah, that would 774 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,440 Speaker 3: be that would be a loss. You know, I'm not 775 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 3: sure it's worth that much, but it definitely doesn't. It 776 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,359 Speaker 3: doesn't help. So yeah, we'll see how the injury report goes. 777 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 3: Getting back, you know, maybe Tarren Johnson would be big 778 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: for them, and there they're linebacking corps. We'll see if 779 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 3: they can get healthy. But yeah, it should be a 780 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: fun game either way. I think it's a tight one. 781 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 3: I don't think anyone gets blown out there, So you're 782 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,080 Speaker 3: pretty much, you know, trying to win a coin flip. 783 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: I'd rather not go against Josh Allen in coin flip games. 784 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: But it's weird. This is a lot a week, Pittsburgh's 785 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: two and a half, green Bay's three, Denver's two and 786 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,719 Speaker 2: a half. Everything's clustered around three this week because there's 787 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 2: there's a lot of parody in this league. There's no 788 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 2: there's no elite team. I don't want to hear the 789 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 2: Chiefs are elite. They're not. 790 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: What what's funny is last week, you know Denver, when 791 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 3: I was looking at Survivor, I didn't have Green Bay 792 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 3: or the Jet available. But if I would have, you know, 793 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 3: would have thought about the Jets versus Denver. But then 794 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 3: I stepped back and said, I really gonna lay. I 795 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 3: mean their seven seven a half point favorite. Is are 796 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 3: the Jets the type of team that can blow you out? 797 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 3: Like that wasn't a sure thing? And that's the thing 798 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 3: like that that is not a seven point spread. Now 799 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 3: New England San Francisco is a different story. Like the 800 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 3: talent gap that might be one versus thirty two, And 801 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 3: that was just a ten and a half point spread. 802 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 3: That's probably as wide as it gets. There's not many other, 803 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 3: you know, situations, you're gonna find these big spreads. So 804 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 3: I agree, you know, there's too many teams that are 805 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,399 Speaker 3: are flawed and there's not enough good quarterback play and 806 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 3: not enough teams that are scoring scoring enough to really 807 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 3: extend margins that you feel comfortable with. So yeah, any 808 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: kind of push comes to shove. If you're in like 809 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 3: pick them contests and you're instead of flipping a coin, 810 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 3: just take the big dog, You're more likely not going 811 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 3: to be right. 812 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: This is, I mean, boy, more news breaking. It is 813 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,759 Speaker 2: not big though. Snowpuntley will officially start for Miami in 814 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: New England. I'm looking to see if that moved the line. Shocker, 815 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,359 Speaker 2: it has not, and I don't think. I mean, gosh, 816 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 2: this is a bad game. It looks to be like 817 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 2: New England is favored by one at home against Huntley. 818 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 3: Incredible. I can't believe New England's favorite over anybody. But 819 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: I thought if you watch, if you watch Miami, they're 820 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,919 Speaker 3: they're lifeless. Like I'm not going to say that they're 821 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,320 Speaker 3: not true, I mean, they just are lifeless, like Tyreek 822 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: Hill's not happy. It's incredible that Tua is that impactful. 823 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: They can't find a single backup and all these years 824 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 3: that can at least hold the fort like just be 825 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 3: competent you have and that shows you, like I like 826 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 3: by McDaniel. But he is not Matt Lafleur. He is O'Connell. 827 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 3: You know, they're just totally he Those guys will adapt 828 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 3: their offenses to the quarterback, the type of style that 829 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 3: they have, and they'll change their offense around. He is 830 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,080 Speaker 3: using the same offense and he will not get away 831 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 3: from get away from it, no matter who the quarterback is. 832 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 3: And that's that's a flaw for him. He's gonna have 833 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 3: to learn how to adapt. He's not the same level 834 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 3: of offensive coach. And the defense is pretty bad for Miami. 835 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 3: So we'll see this is you know, this is their 836 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 3: season and if you want to say a float, you 837 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 3: got to wing this game. But it's hard to trust, 838 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 3: you know, trust them for trust the Patriots. 839 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was you or Albert Breer, 840 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 2: but we talked about drafting a quarterback every year should 841 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 2: be just mandatory for every team, and I was screaming, 842 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 2: go get Penix. He's a lefty. He fits perfect and 843 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,799 Speaker 2: in place of to and they got no quarterback. Now, 844 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: Penis went high, obviously, but Miami remember when they signed 845 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 2: Mike White, they stole him from the Jets. We're is 846 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 2: he even in the league. Now, I don't know what, Like, 847 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 2: why would you pay money for him, take him from 848 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 2: your rival, and now a year later when you need him, 849 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,839 Speaker 2: he's not even on the roster. I don't know. 850 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, they cut him, I think last year. I think 851 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 3: they can't afford him. They're paying so many guys. I 852 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 3: don't think they can afford, you know, to pay any 853 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 3: legitimate backup, which is the problem here. But you're gonna 854 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,040 Speaker 3: do that. You should draft one for sure. 855 00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,720 Speaker 2: I would hit you with my trade Tyreek Hill idea, 856 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 2: but that's probably going to go nowhere. But it's like, dude, 857 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: if you can get to first for Tyreek, I don't 858 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 2: think absolute. I think you got to do that. Miami 859 00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 2: doesn't have talent. Ta. 860 00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: I don't know if they can get to first for him. 861 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 3: I think you get like a first in a second 862 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: or first and a third, you know. I don't think 863 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 3: you get two first ram anymore. 864 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 2: But that's what that guy gotta do. Yeah, all right, Ta, 865 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:13,719 Speaker 2: great stuff. Check out a site Cleveanalytics dot com. It's 866 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 2: not just picks. There are picks, but survivor. Do you 867 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 2: do fantasy there as well? 868 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 3: I do some. I do dfs write ups every week. 869 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,440 Speaker 3: Kind of like sleeper calls and you know, like you 870 00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 3: say you're talking about the write ups. I like how 871 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 3: you you described it. That's how I want the site 872 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 3: to be. I don't want you to just to because 873 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 3: I just post here, here's what I'm taking. If you're interested, like, sure, 874 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 3: go read the write up and if it makes sense, 875 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,759 Speaker 3: if you follow the plan, like all right, that that 876 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,799 Speaker 3: makes sense, Like I'll back that as well. Great. If 877 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,360 Speaker 3: you think it's the opposite and you don't wanna, you 878 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 3: don't agree with me, great too. I'm put I put 879 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 3: my write up, my process. You know, different patterns, like 880 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 3: types of teams in these types of situations, how I've 881 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 3: done historically. Talk about weather, it's about injuries like all 882 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 3: those things. There's a lot of stats up there and 883 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 3: tools to do searches. You make your own decision based 884 00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 3: on that. And that's what I'm trying to do is 885 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 3: just kind of help your be a part of your process. 886 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 3: So that's what the site's all about. And they have dfs. 887 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 3: I have Survivor. I have pick a pool where I 888 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 3: pick every game against the circa million frozen frozen lines 889 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 3: on Thursday. So it's all there for for you to 890 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 3: kind of peruse and get act. 891 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 2: It's not fun when people are just like, hey, what 892 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 2: are your picks and then they get upset when they 893 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 2: don't hate. Hey, here's why I like it. Yeah, So anyway, 894 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: all right da, thanks a lot, buddy, awesome appreciate Jason,