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Speaker 1: Second date of date.

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Speaker 2: For a lot of guys on the dating apps, coming

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Speaker 2: up with the perfect opener is like painting the mona Lisa.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Takes a lot of time, pure art.

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Speaker 2: Do you just put something down, stand back, you study it,

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Speaker 2: add a little word here, yea, just that line there.

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Speaker 4: Take off the eyebrows there, Yeah, toss in.

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Speaker 2: An extra emoji, delete that pun, and after four hours

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Speaker 2: you finally send her.

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Speaker 1: In four hours, hey, what's up? And no response.

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Speaker 4: There, which.

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Speaker 1: You shouldn't have used the apostrophe. Is that what it was?

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Speaker 1: I thought the three question marks we're gonna work.

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Speaker 2: But today we have a listener who says he actually

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Speaker 2: put in some work, real work, into figuring out an

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Speaker 2: opening line with a sixty percent reply rate, which is

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Speaker 2: extremely high for guys on these apps.

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Speaker 1: And that's very very high, nikes, Yeah, to the average

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Speaker 1: like two percent reply rate maybe lower.

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Speaker 4: How many messages are you guys sendy?

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Speaker 2: It's very difficult. His name is Carson, So Carson, welcome

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Speaker 2: to the show man.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, guys?

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Speaker 4: Are you going to let him deliver the line?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know what the line is. I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: I don't ever written, so, like, what kind of line.

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Speaker 1: Are we working with here?

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Speaker 5: Carson, Like, we don't even need to talk. But I

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Speaker 5: was wondering if you would critique my profile. I'm new here.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh interesact.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think about that? Alexis an invitation

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Speaker 2: to critique his profile? I don't know, looking at him up?

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Speaker 4: Aren't they then looking at your profile with a negative view?

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Speaker 6: That's what I'm gonna say, because you're only going to

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Speaker 6: pick out negative stuff to be funny about.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to say, but it's a conversation.

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Speaker 2: So Alexis is in the forty percent that would not

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Speaker 2: reply to this, surely.

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Speaker 4: Replies something so rude that they don't reply back.

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Speaker 2: Well, even this is terrible, even that, I mean, that's

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Speaker 2: a response in itself.

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Speaker 1: That's a win, right Carson, even if it's mean.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm mean it did lead to someone. Her name

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Speaker 5: is Lenn Okay.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I said, yeah, what was her critique?

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Speaker 5: She said, I should smile more in photos because I

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Speaker 5: look too serious.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's a nice one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah, if you have a good smile, then

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Speaker 2: you should be showing that off and women would like that.

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Speaker 1: And pro tip, girls love it when you tell them

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Speaker 1: that too. Yeah, you should smile more. You look you

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Speaker 1: smile just in the photos.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, did you send her a personal pick of you smiling?

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Speaker 5: I did not. I said, well you should see my

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Speaker 5: smile in person. Said okay.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she said okay, and you're like, look to your

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Speaker 2: left out your window right now.

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Speaker 4: So what did you guys do for your date? Then?

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Speaker 5: I offered to pick her up? Oh. We ended up

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Speaker 5: going to a steakhouse.

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Speaker 4: If you're wanting to impress her with the steak dinner,

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Speaker 4: I mean, you must really like this.

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Speaker 5: Woman, you know what she's She's great. You know. We

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Speaker 5: went to the steakhouse. Things went really well. It was

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Speaker 5: everything I hoped it would be.

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Speaker 4: I want to hear some highlights.

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Speaker 1: Did you smile at her the whole time?

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Speaker 5: I tried to smile more?

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Speaker 1: Yes, good, Okay, if it's too much.

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Speaker 4: What did you guys connect over?

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Speaker 5: Well, she's a room in the sports I'm a big

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Speaker 5: sports guy, so that was an instant connection. We like

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Speaker 5: similar kinds of music.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it all sounds really good. There was nothing

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Speaker 2: awkward that happened on the day.

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Speaker 5: Everything was great. The awkward moment was on the way home. Okay,

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Speaker 5: she saw something between the seats of my car, and

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Speaker 5: she reached down. She pulled it out, and it was

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Speaker 5: a canister of lipstick. No, I know, I know that

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Speaker 5: looks really bad. It probably looked like I was on

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Speaker 4: You just tell her, like, look, that's not my shade.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. I have mine at home.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, anyone could have dropped it in your

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Speaker 5: Well, she she certainly wanted to know where it came from,

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Speaker 5: and I was. I was. I was honest with her. Uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, I borrowed my ex girlfriend's car.

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Speaker 4: Wait, you were driving your girlfriend's car.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't your car.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, that's worse than.

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Speaker 2: Did that totally smooth everything over for the conversation.

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Speaker 5: That you know mine was in the shop. I was

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Speaker 5: trying to be straight up with her. Obviously, the vibe

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Speaker 5: kind of change at that point.

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Speaker 4: Why didn't you just say a friend?

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Speaker 5: If I could go back and change it, I think I.

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Speaker 3: Would, Oh that is it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it looked like I looked. I thought I was

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Speaker 5: getting a good night kiss. Everything was great. Obviously that

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Speaker 5: didn't happen. Yeah, that's why I'm here, I'm hoping maybe

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Speaker 5: you guys can help me.

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Speaker 1: Wait, and now.

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Speaker 2: She's not calling you back, like you haven't smoothed it

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Speaker 5: No, I haven't heard from her since not a week

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Speaker 1: Was going good. It's a circumstance.

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Speaker 4: What's the relationship with you and your ex? Before we

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Speaker 4: call her?

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Speaker 1: They're on good terms enough for her to the car?

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Speaker 4: How good of terms?

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Speaker 5: Like, we were always friends, we tried to date, it

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Speaker 5: didn't work out, we're still friends.

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Speaker 1: That's so cool. You guys can do that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that sound when you try to date somebody. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: so maybe like you could describe her as a friend

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Speaker 4: instead of an ax for Yeah, did you get a

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Speaker 5: I didn't get a chance to because we were so

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Speaker 5: close to her house. Was kind of the end of it.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it's probably for the best.

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Speaker 2: You don't probably want to be gloating about how great

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. If you're driving her car, you're going to

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Speaker 4: want to explain something like it's better than we're still

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Speaker 4: sleeping together?

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Speaker 1: And what answer is good?

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Speaker 2: When you're like she's the best, or you're like, oh,

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Speaker 4: I think it's a green flag if someone can get

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I'm hoping you guys can get her

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Speaker 5: because I don't know if she's gonna listen to me.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna let Brook tackle that.

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Speaker 4: I'm friends with all sorts of exasy.

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Speaker 1: For guy, Yeah, what's wrong with him? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: We'll call Leanne for you after this and try and

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Speaker 2: help you get your second date update in just a minute.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, let's quickly recap Carson's first

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Speaker 2: date with a little game.

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Speaker 1: Of good or bad.

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Speaker 2: Steakhouse dinner, good idea, good, lots of smiling, good, picking

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Speaker 2: her up in your ex girlfriend's white Jetta.

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Speaker 1: I don't know every Jetta.

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Speaker 2: So we're thinking that's probably the big red flag that's

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Speaker 2: been scaring Leanne away from a second meet up with Carson.

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Speaker 2: But Brooke wisely pointed out, actually, it could be seen

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Speaker 2: as a green flag that he doesn't have a toxic

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Speaker 2: relationship with past love interests, right, Brooke.

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Speaker 4: Dude, I think that if you can be friends with

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Speaker 4: an ax. It doesn't mean that you still have feelings

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Speaker 4: for them. It's when you still have feelings is when

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Speaker 4: things get dicey and you can't talk to them and

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Speaker 4: you're angry and everything.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what about friends with benefits?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean it's an ex, so it doesn't really count.

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Speaker 1: All right, Carson, Does that feel good? Does it give

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Speaker 1: you a little bit of hope before we make this call?

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Speaker 4: I'm optimistic, okay, but there's no benefits with your ex?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: No, no, okay, okay, good good. Well, besides the car,

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Speaker 4: he does get to borrow her car, I've met a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not the physical type of So let's reach

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Speaker 2: out to Leanne. Hopefully she picks up and we can

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Speaker 2: explain this whole thing and get her to.

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Speaker 1: Go out with you again.

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Speaker 7: Okay, sounds great, good, right now, let's do it.

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Speaker 3: Hello.

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Speaker 1: Hey, is this Leanne?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: This is her? Who's this?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: This is actually yeah, a whole ensemble of people called

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Speaker 2: Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning, we're a radio show.

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Speaker 3: Good morning, good, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for saying it back. People don't say it back.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: It's like when you say you're welcome.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're a nice person, Leanne.

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Speaker 2: We're hoping that this can be a good morning for

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Speaker 2: you because we're doing something called a second date update.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, you know I've seen it. I've seen

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Speaker 3: her social media.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so well, thank you for finding on social media.

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Speaker 4: You can go to our podcast too.

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Speaker 1: She didn't sound like she liked it.

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Speaker 4: She comes up in the album always be promoting, all right,

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Speaker 4: it's always a disaster.

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Speaker 3: It's always some nightmare case.

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Speaker 4: That's not true. No, that's not true.

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Speaker 1: We air the disaster, just.

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Speaker 4: The ones that go viral. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're hoping this is not one of those

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Speaker 2: that you'll never even see this in your feed because

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Speaker 2: we're reaching out based on a date you went with

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Speaker 2: with a guy named Carson.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, would you call it a disaster?

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Speaker 4: Your day with Carson?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Carson, Carson, What are you doing Carson?

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So we spoke to Carson earlier and he had

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Speaker 2: really glowing reviews about the date. Just what we know

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Speaker 2: from it is that you two connected on a dating app.

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Speaker 2: You said you really liked his smile, had a nice

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Speaker 2: dinner at a steakhouse.

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Speaker 1: There was no kiss at the end. He was a

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Speaker 1: little surprised.

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Speaker 4: By that, but no disappointed.

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Speaker 2: I think disappointed. But now you're not open to another one.

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Speaker 2: So he's trying to figure out if there's a reason he.

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Speaker 3: Must have left something out.

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Speaker 1: I leve something out.

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Speaker 4: I think you did.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would be embarrassed. But he was driving

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, yeah, he did tell us that. I just

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Speaker 3: That's not okay? Why that's not okay?

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Speaker 3: That just means that somewhat special in your life is

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Speaker 3: I know, not that I've just I've dated guys in

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Speaker 4: That's not what I'm trying to do. But I do

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I never considered it that way.

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Speaker 2: There was the case with Carson that he was friends

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they realized that they weren't meant to be together.

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Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, look at you being a reasonable human? Love it?

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Speaker 2: So, so is that something that would maybe change your

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Speaker 3: Possibly? The radio person I don't know her name, but

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Speaker 1: Her name is Alexis. Give her all the credits.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this sounds really good to us in the

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? I can hear you smiling through

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Speaker 1: I think I think he's there, Carson.

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Speaker 5: Hey, hey, guys, I'm here.

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Speaker 6: What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: What are you doing it for?

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Speaker 5: What is it?

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Speaker 4: They are so cute.

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Speaker 5: I felt a connection with you that I haven't felt

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Speaker 1: That's adorable.

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Speaker 3: That's really sweet to hear that from you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not like those other guys that you dated

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Speaker 5: Well look, I need to be one hundred percent honest

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Speaker 5: I do live with I do live with my ax.

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Speaker 5: That's how I was able to borrow the car.

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Speaker 5: And he's like a sister. It's really not a big

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Speaker 2: Know, but they're in a good place. Now, Brooke, you

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Speaker 4: Your axe, and like that feels like you were living

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know. I don't really remember. There

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's like a timeshirt situation for us, which

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Speaker 6: It's shut up, I think seriously, Like I told you guys,

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Speaker 6: this is all disasters plan.

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Speaker 5: Look trust me when I say this, it's not a disaster.

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Speaker 4: Oh god, that's famous. Last words.

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Speaker 5: Why don't you come over this weekend? We can we

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Speaker 4: Wait what oh, there's only one bedroom.

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Speaker 1: That's a good living situation.

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Speaker 5: It works for us, don't judge.

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Speaker 5: I'm in the car and that's what it's for, a.

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Speaker 5: In your car only part time.

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Speaker 4: J I have a headache. Yeah, I'm sorry about that

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Speaker 2: No, it is a green flag it's a green flag

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Speaker 1: That's how awesome he is to live with.

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Speaker 5: We don't share the bed when she's in it. I'm

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Speaker 4: I can't say it, man.

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Speaker 1: Even Alexis is coming around on him.

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Speaker 3: So I mean a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: It could be your nightmare if you say yes to

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Speaker 1: If you're open to it, you will.

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Speaker 4: Be your nightmare if you say yes. No, it's not

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Speaker 3: I don't want this to go viral. I don't want

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. If you're.

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Speaker 1: If you're seeing this on socials, do not come man,

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Speaker 2: Oh man, man, Carson. It sounds like a no from Leanne.

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Speaker 5: There, Leanne, you know you didn't complain when I used

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Speaker 4: WHOA get out of here?

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Speaker 6: You never told me that.

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Speaker 8: How would it come up and cover Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 8: well wow, I mean, Carson, you were worried that the

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Speaker 4: Oh and your ex pace for everything, well half of

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Speaker 5: And then when you say it like that, I think

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Speaker 1: Oh you're attached, buddy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, brooking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, how did Carson think that it was

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Speaker 1: In part one?

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Speaker 4: Has he said a lot of information?

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Speaker 2: And he said, oh, we're still friends. Didn't mention oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Would have been a little bit of a different story

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Speaker 4: If you have a one bedroom apartment, you can't call

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Speaker 2: I didn't want to call it an end because the

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Speaker 3: He is.

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Speaker 4: Your debit card or car.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't be surprised, but honestly, just be truthful with us

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Speaker 2: as she did, and that poor girl didn't want this

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Speaker 1: You know so.

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Speaker 2: And that's why I just want to be honest right

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Speaker 2: now with all of our listeners and tell you the

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Speaker 2: truth that we do have a Second Date podcast.

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Speaker 1: It's real.

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Speaker 2: Somehow it gets millions of downloads every month. Even I

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Speaker 1: Go look for yourself.

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Speaker 2: Brook showed me the numbers. So if you want to

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Speaker 2: check it out and subscribe.

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Speaker 1: And Brook always lies, tell the truth.

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Speaker 2: It's a green flag to listen to our podcast, Binge

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Speaker 2: Away at Brook and Jeffrey