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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Richard Winecker.

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Speaker 2: What's happening. I've eaten a piece of chicken out of

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Speaker 2: I love today's guest. I think today's guest is just tremendous.

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Speaker 2: It's Jeff Hiller. Jeff, welcome to I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you for having me, Bretur. It's nice to

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Speaker 4: be here. How are you well, I'm okay. You know

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Speaker 4: it's funny is I'm in New York, so it's two

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Speaker 4: pm here and I just a yogurt out of the fridge.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, see you think we would be the opposite.

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Speaker 2: It's so reverse.

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Speaker 3: Our personalities are fun.

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Speaker 2: What kind of yogurt did you have?

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't want to brag, but my

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Speaker 3: How often, at least weakly, it's a big thing.

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Speaker 2: The only way I've seen a homemade yogurt get made

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Speaker 4: It's like there's a skillet with water and then there's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the bacteria exactly, and he and he puts them in.

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Speaker 4: But it's at first he ordered them and they were

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Speaker 3: Oh? My god, Bridge, or who do you think I am?

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Speaker 2: No, No, you're someone who eats yogurt made on top

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Speaker 4: Oh well that's a good point, you you would think.

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Speaker 4: But no, that's where my skills set. Well, first time,

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Speaker 2: That's true, that's very but just to be in proximity

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but my husband doesn't even want to like paint

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Speaker 2: Spatially, all of that sort of thing. I just fall

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Speaker 3: That only took about two hours. But okay, there are

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Speaker 2: You chose not to show me two of the three walls.

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Speaker 2: Know, it's a very private thing for you. I understand

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Speaker 3: Is my sanctuary.

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Speaker 4: I will not invite anyone into it.

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Speaker 2: What drove you to the wallpaper? You just felt like

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Speaker 2: Oh I really like that. That's I mean over zoom.

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Speaker 2: Where do you Where do you guys shoot that show?

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Speaker 4: We shoot it in the like rural suburbs of Chicago,

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Speaker 4: and it takes place in Kansas. There's not there aren't

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Speaker 3: Of course.

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Speaker 2: I'm on my way while you guys are shooting. Are

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Speaker 4: This is a long time ago. It was even before

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Speaker 2: This is the fourth video uploaded to YouTube.

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Speaker 4: I used to watch them, but no, I but mainly

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Speaker 3: What if it sucks? Mean?

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Speaker 4: Well, I totally do that for drag Race, So I

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Speaker 2: As a Salt Lake City watcher, I can absolutely say

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Speaker 4: Perfect television, it feels like there's a lot of scandals

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Speaker 2: Yes, I just feel like they're bad women. They're just there.

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Speaker 3: Well, I did an episode of Watch What Happens Live

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Speaker 2: Oh. Yes, Meredith Marx, Meredith.

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Speaker 2: I was like that, Yeah, every episode there's a huge revelation.

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Speaker 2: Did you interact with Meredith at all a little bit?

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Speaker 3: I don't she did. She did not seem interested in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, legit, she was the star of that moment,

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Speaker 3: So like they barely even talked anything about about my show.

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Speaker 4: I was like actually drinking, you know, at the bar.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm not talking to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've always curious about the bartender on that show,

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Speaker 4: You know, you don't sit, so you just standing. I've

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Speaker 4: But the first time I did it, Brooke Shields was

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Speaker 4: I think Brooke Shields is the best human being in

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Speaker 2: Of course, and what a beautiful thing to do. And

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Speaker 2: Brook Shields is extremely famous, certainly more so than Meredith Marx.

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Speaker 4: I guess you're right. I guess you're right. Yeah, And

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Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 2: And I also, I do believe that episode kind of

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Speaker 4: I hadn't seen her face previously, so I was like,

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Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, kind of look like what

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Speaker 2: The thing about any of those Housewives shows is like

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Speaker 4: Right right, and you know, I mean, if we want

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Speaker 3: They're running into, how their hair is falling.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, she was I think she was

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Speaker 3: Yes, and they probably would have ripped her shreds if she.

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Speaker 2: It didn't matter. If the internet was ready to scream,

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Speaker 3: She had exactly all of them.

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Speaker 2: There's no oh boy, oh well that's uh so. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Deally is shocking.

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Speaker 2: It's not just iced tea.

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Speaker 4: No, No, they ask you what drink you want, and

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Speaker 2: Well, at least I appreciate that effort. Well, look, I

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Speaker 2: day with you, but there's something else I need to

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Speaker 2: address you. You agreed to be on my podcast, I

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Speaker 2: We'll you know, record an hour or so of audio

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised when a week or so

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm now holding in my hands kind of a bag.

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Speaker 2: This is thank you in a variety of language.

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Speaker 4: How many languages, yes, armand de Sante his last name

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there are a lot of languages here. I don't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they really like went deep on God translate.

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Speaker 2: These are some very deep cuts for thank you. It's

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Speaker 4: I know you said no gifts, but I got you

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Speaker 2: Well, should I open it here on the podcast?

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Well I'm embarrassed.

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Speaker 2: But okay, okay, let me dive in real quick. I'm

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna rip into this back this envelope if

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Speaker 2: I can.

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Speaker 4: Oh, oh there, it is a perforated edge thing.

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Speaker 2: I love a perforated edge. I appreciate a perforated edge

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Speaker 4: Oh right, A false perforated edge is just rude. It's

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Speaker 2: Okay, and now I'm reaching in, I'm pulling it out.

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Speaker 2: Are the are they are these nylons?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think their socks or well, I guess there might

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Speaker 2: Oh oh yes, Because now i'm reading it, it says

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Speaker 2: it's a cotton toetopper. It's a top, so it's like

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: It's like a small pair of socks. That's kind of

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Speaker 4: Is that correct, right, Like if you're wearing a mule

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Speaker 2: Now tell me why you sent these to me.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I I wanted to get you something I thought

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Speaker 2: Jeff, I want you to keep an eye. This is

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Speaker 2: here are the two pairs that you sent me. And

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Speaker 2: I'm lifting my leg. Oh good, I'm currently wearing Oh

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Speaker 2: it's ninety five degrees, I'm in shorts and I have

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Speaker 2: These are different.

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Speaker 3: I think they might be be These are only for

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Speaker 2: I never realized it didn't cover your whole foot.

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Speaker 4: It just covers half of your foot, because why would

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what I've just shown Jeff that's currently on

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Speaker 2: half of your foot almost like that.

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00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: That's like a you know, what do you call that?

444
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 3: It's like a hidden sock.

445
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 2: Hidden sock.

446
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 3: Yes, you would wear it with like vans or a

447
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,400
Speaker 3: slip on. Yes, if you wanted to show shape play ankles, ankles.

448
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 3: Here's the thing, one of these.

449
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 2: Does anyone ever say singular van? I need I'm looking

450
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: for my van shoe.

451
00:24:55,640 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: Where's my right van? I don't know. That's a good question.

452
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 2: So this is essentially just for a backless shoe, yeah, exactly.

453
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: Or if you just want to drag your heel around

454
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: the wherever.

455
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: If you just want a dirty heel, But you want

456
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 3: a clean toe, kind of.

457
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 2: A backwards five o'clock shadow sort of situation.

458
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: Exactly. It's like a mullet.

459
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 2: Okay, now I've taken off my hidden sock and I'm

460
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 2: now putting on my toetoppers.

461
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: Okay, now tell me. Do they stretch all the way

462
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 4: to the heel or is it just the toes?

463
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 2: Oh, it's just the toes. It's like basically the first

464
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 2: half of my foot. I'll see. I mean I can

465
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,920
Speaker 2: demonstrate again.

466
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 4: Let's see you were like Mitzi Gainer. I just there's

467
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,920
Speaker 4: legs just popping up everywhere. Yeah, that's it. See, that's

468
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 4: the difference. See.

469
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 2: Do you own any toetoppers? No?

470
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,959
Speaker 3: M hmm. I can't even really imagine why when anyone

471
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: would need to.

472
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 2: But I want to get some backless boots or something,

473
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 2: some clogs.

474
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 3: A mule, A mule, yes, maybe? How tall are you?

475
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 3: Do you like? Do you like to get higher?

476
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 2: I'd love to get higher. I'm five six and so, so.

477
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: You could get like a nice wedge, huge chunky Yeah,

478
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:37,440
Speaker 3: I've seen ones that have like this, really beautiful. By

479
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 3: the way, my gift just makes you buy more than that.

480
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: It's just a financial quicksand.

481
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 3: It's just a black hole of MANI but you could get.

482
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: Like a really nice suede mule for the winter and

483
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 4: if you if you want a little height, a little

484
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: height on there for the winter.

485
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: I'm walking around with the backless shoe through the snow.

486
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 3: You live in Los Angeles?

487
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: What am I talking about here?

488
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: I figured in the summer you want your toes out too.

489
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm going to get a backless mule I have. I

490
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: kind of have no choice end up starting hundreds of

491
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 2: dollars on a pair of novelty shoes.

492
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: That you wear zero times except for like the one

493
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: picture you want to send yourself wearing the toetoppers.

494
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: How did you become aware of a toetopper?

495
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not I'm not trying to endorse where I

496
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 4: bought this, but I needed free delivery, and you know,

497
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 4: mama got crying. So I went on to Amazon and

498
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 4: I was like, what's up here?

499
00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 3: And it was oddly suggested for me really, and I well,

500
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: I have bought the kind of sucks that you have

501
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 3: from Amazon, and I believe that they thought that they

502
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: thought of those socks as a gateway sock to the

503
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 3: toe top.

504
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: You obviously are you want diminishing socks, just less and

505
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: less sock until you have a naked foot.

506
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna log on. This is gonna be like one.

507
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 3: This is like just a little toe top, not even

508
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 3: not even the not even the ball of just the

509
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 3: big toe.

510
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 2: Just a thimble for your toe.

511
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 3: A toe thimble is I think maybe you're a million

512
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: dollar idea.

513
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: I truly do. If someone hasn't invented the toe thimble,

514
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: I will sue, So just back away from my idea.

515
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: That's uh.

516
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: If you're a patent attorney, I'm getting touch.

517
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: You gotta trademark this before this air.

518
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, this episode's going to be delayed for years. While

519
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: I'm going through the courts, I'm speaking to attorneys, I'm

520
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: pitching out to various corporations. The toe thimble. I feel

521
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 2: like somebody could probably use that. I don't know what

522
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: does a thimb? What is the purpose of a thimble

523
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 2: in the first place?

524
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 3: It's too it's to prevent the needle going into your

525
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: thumb right finger, you've got it on right, yeah, or

526
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 3: whatever thumb, whatever thumb.

527
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: Finger, one of your many thumbs.

528
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 3: Just helped up.

529
00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 4: Just like little sausage hands of big toes. I hate sewing,

530
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 4: and then you're like, that's why I didn't wallpaper yourself.

531
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, he's all thought. I mean, speaking of sewing,

532
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: have you ever sewn? Hm?

533
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 4: Hm, yes, because I my degree was in theater and

534
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 4: we had to take a costuming class, so I sewed

535
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 4: a tunic.

536
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: Oh, tunic for yourself? Else?

537
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 4: Yes, it was for a costume for the the Shakespeare show.

538
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: We did that. You're I can't remember what it was.

539
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: I know remember what the show was.

540
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 2: But I can only remember the tunic it was.

541
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 4: It was like it was the kind of like you

542
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 4: know those blankets that you put on your bed that

543
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 4: that like feel really soft but very artificial.

544
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 3: It's like a microfiber. It was made out of that.

545
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Oh what color? Was it?

546
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: Like the hunter green? Okay?

547
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 2: And that God knows where it is now?

548
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, in the costume posit. I think that's

549
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 4: it's been. I've been out of college for quite some time.

550
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 4: It's probably in a landfill if i'm I'm not.

551
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 2: I hope somebody's wearing it right now wandering around in

552
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 2: a tunic.

553
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 3: Me too.

554
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 4: I don't think my my college is that bohemian, but

555
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 4: maybe what college. Wow, it's very impressive. You know, when

556
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 4: people say, like, I went to college in New Haven,

557
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: I went to I'm just gonna say, I went to

558
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 4: Texas Lutheran College in sekiin Texas.

559
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, it's super impressive school I went to.

560
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: I think you and I both probably have a familiar

561
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: feeling being in the entertainment industry where frequently people went

562
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: to fancy colleges. And I'll be like, oh, I went

563
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: to the University of Utah, and just like it's a

564
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: perfectly fine college. But it's not. You know, everyone else

565
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: went to I really.

566
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 3: Don't they Oh is that true? And maybe it was

567
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 3: just like what some dancer told me.

568
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: A dancer who went through the dance program at.

569
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 3: The university, it's a very good program.

570
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: No, I kind of believe that they would have a

571
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 2: good dance program. I feel like dance is very important.

572
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: It's a lot. I felt like every at least every

573
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 2: girl I went to school with was in some sort

574
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: of dance program at some point.

575
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 3: It's a good dance program.

576
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 4: Interesting, Okay, you know, I know two other people who

577
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 4: went to the University of Utah, So I don't think

578
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 4: it's that Like, I bet you don't know anybody else

579
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 4: who went to Texas Lutheran College.

580
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: I don't, but I mean maybe I didn't.

581
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 4: Know anybody else who went to Texas Lutheran and I

582
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 4: went there.

583
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: I want to know who you went. Who else went

584
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: to the University of Utah. I'm looking to connect with

585
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: some alumni.

586
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 4: Well, my friend Maria Elena Ramirez went there. Hello Elena,

587
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 4: she's a Broadway actor. And then the other one, her

588
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 4: name was Kate Finneroff and she is a social worker

589
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: who I I think now she's an economist.

590
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 3: Okay.

591
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 4: I used to be a social worker and she was

592
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 4: my boss at the time. It was also in Colorado,

593
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: so it kind of makes a little more.

594
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 2: Sense, right, right, that makes a lot more sense. And

595
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: you're from San Antonio.

596
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 3: I am san Antonio, Texas.

597
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I went to San Antonio in twenty nineteen. Fascinating.

598
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 3: So did I.

599
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: Very interesting play?

600
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:01,239
Speaker 3: Where'd you go for?

601
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: My boyfriend was touring in le miz.

602
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 3: And so you saw it at the Majestic.

603
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: I did beautiful theater.

604
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

605
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean it's ancient, but it's stunning.

606
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 3: So was his tour cut off? It was the pandemic? Yes,

607
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 3: they what what was it? What was his track?

608
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 2: Who was he Thenardier?

609
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: Oh the oh yeah, I know I've auditioned for Thenardier.

610
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding once, didn't you make a good Thenardier?

611
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 3: Well that's another thought too, but the casting disagreed.

612
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love that theater. I went to a

613
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: huge antique mall where weirdly, like the one antique mall

614
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: I've ever felt uncomfortable as a gay person.

615
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: That feels right.

616
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 2: It's like I should feel right at home here, and

617
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: I feel like the cashier wants to call me a homo, probably.

618
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 3: Worse, but thank you for just saying homo.

619
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I mean it was a beautiful antique mall,

620
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: just antique upon antique upon antique, which then I bought nothing.

621
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 4: But San Antonio is a good place to go, like

622
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,760
Speaker 4: thrift store shopping and antiquing because it's not like Austin

623
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 4: is harder because people are all always coming. You know,

624
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 4: Austinites are really into that. Wow, you're right, that is

625
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

626
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 3: Wow, San Antonia is a good place to shop because

627
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: says dummies don't know anything about it.

628
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 4: Turns out had nothing to do with your gayness. It

629
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 4: was just that antique mall person was like, that's you monster.

630
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 3: We're not some flyover town or the eighth largest city

631
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: in the country.

632
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I had a nice time. I felt like

633
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: the river walk is too much, you know, like Planet

634
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: Hollywood or what have you.

635
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, yeah.

636
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: I just didn't quite know what to do with myself

637
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: in San Antonio. I'll say that same here for.

638
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: The first twenty years of my life.

639
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 2: Is your family still there?

640
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,040
Speaker 4: No, they live in Austin, now, okay. I actually when

641
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 4: I go home, I go to Austin. Although this was

642
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: really good food in San Antonio.

643
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 3: It's really good food.

644
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, I think I feel like I had

645
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 2: good food, and yeah.

646
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 3: Good, I should say there's good Mexican.

647
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: Right right, very good Mexican food.

648
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: Well, you don't go there like French.

649
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: I was looking for Korean and there was not a

650
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 2: single good Korean restaurant.

651
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: My favorite sucy restaurant in San Antonio so close, so

652
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 4: close to the.

653
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:59,680
Speaker 2: Fish as far as and then back to the toe toppers.

654
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm just curious about, like talked about them footwear wise,

655
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: what sort of person are you? Do you buy a

656
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,240
Speaker 2: lot of shoes? Do you have a fair fairly simple

657
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 2: shoe collection.

658
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 3: I have a pretty extensive shoe collection.

659
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: What kind of shoes?

660
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 3: Well, funny you should say that, because I do go

661
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 3: through phases. I love. I'm really into like like a

662
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 3: slip on, like a van, but like a classy one

663
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 3: like Babe by whatever, like a rag and bone or

664
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 3: we're not talking like Prada, We're talking theory.

665
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: You're talking about like Nords from not Nords from rac Oh.

666
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 4: No, I'm talking about Nords from rac baby hardcore. I'm

667
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 4: a member of the Nordy Club, and.

668
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: I need to join the Nordy Club. I buy all

669
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: of my Vans at Nords from rac Oh.

670
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nords from rac is. Well, you know, Nordstrom started

671
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 4: as a shoe store, so Nordstrom RAC has the best

672
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 4: shoes that didn't sell well at Nordstrom.

673
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 3: Of course.

674
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: I don't know the last time I purchased something at

675
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: Nordstrom Proper, but Nordstrom RAC.

676
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever bought anything at Nordstrom Proper,

677
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: but I have bought almost everything at Nordstrom Mac. I

678
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: am a real like, I know a lot about Nordstrom RAC.

679
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: Do you have any tips to share?

680
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 3: Hmmm, Well, you got to just get the app. Just

681
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: get the app.

682
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: And you know, you'll develop your own little search searchables

683
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 4: that you want, Like you know what it is. It's

684
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 4: about frequency of checking in.

685
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: It's kind of like thrifting.

686
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 3: It is. It's very similar to thrifting. And you can't,

687
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: like I live in New York.

688
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 4: You can't really thrift here unless you did it literally

689
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 4: every day, and I don't have that patience. But nord

690
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: stormrac is sort of my thrifting.

691
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 2: But I like.

692
00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 4: I like it when like sometimes they either have the

693
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 4: really things that look actually good, they only have like

694
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 4: super small or super super large, and I am super

695
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 4: super large. I'm like a shockingly large person, so I

696
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: find it perfect. Yeah, I'm like, suck on that mediums

697
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 4: give me my exx L.

698
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah they do. That's completely accurate of the wreck where I'm.

699
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: For the wreck you speak it, Oh yeah, of course

700
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 3: you get The ones in LA are great, excellent.

701
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,840
Speaker 2: I will say the bird well, actually I've kind of

702
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: fallen in love with the Glendale wreck. I used to

703
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: go to the Burbank. I will say the West Hollywood

704
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: wreck is the worst.

705
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 3: Mmm, you know I never went to that one, if

706
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:49,320
Speaker 3: that makes sense.

707
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: Not a lot happening at that location.

708
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 4: I live because I lived in Los Filas, so I

709
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 4: lived at the Glendale Rack and that Glendale you know,

710
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 4: went to the movie's at the gallery, that Target in Glendale.

711
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: Oh, of course, the Glendale Target is perfect, the perfect situation.

712
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 2: And if you if you want to dip into them all,

713
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: it's right there for.

714
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: You, exactly.

715
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can go get a whatever pretzel or whatever.

716
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. And when I was in New York, I would

717
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: shop at the Union Square Rack.

718
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that one's good. There's a new one.

719
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 4: Now I'm thirty first and sixth Okay, when I say new,

720
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like.

721
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:30,919
Speaker 3: Five years old.

722
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: That's pretty new by rack standards.

723
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: The rack is classic.

724
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's good the they like because the ones

725
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 4: in Austin or in Texas they don't break out the

726
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 4: designer things.

727
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: But the one in Union's.

728
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: Great does break out the designer so that it's I mean,

729
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 4: you know, so also like sometimes even the really discounted

730
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: designer it's like wait.

731
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 2: Oh of course I'll go there and I'll be like, oh, well,

732
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 2: this is still seventy dollars for a shirt that I

733
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: don't care if it's seventy five percent off, it's an

734
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: expensive item.

735
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: Or they'll have the ones that are like Gucci and

736
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 4: they have like all of these cords wrapped around all

737
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 4: of them because they like they literally are like a

738
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 4: sweatsuit that's over one thousand dollars and so they're like

739
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 4: tied up like Joan of.

740
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 3: Arc or.

741
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: Just ready to be set on fire, like.

742
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: I'll kink.

743
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it's always nice to find a fellow rack shopper.

744
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: And then you know what, though, I bet they have

745
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 3: those to toppers that North oh.

746
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Are guaranteed absolutely, but of course, well actually not guaranteed,

747
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 2: because occasionally they'll probably have them and then they exactly them.

748
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you gotta keep going.

749
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: Back if you want to get onto tow topper.

750
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 3: Do you have any rack tips?

751
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 2: I have zero, red. I mean, my only tip is

752
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: that you kind of have to go in with an

753
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: open mind.

754
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 3: You've got to be ready looking for something specific.

755
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: No thank you, you just have to let the store

756
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: wash over you. For me, it's mostly about the shoes.

757
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, same.

758
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 2: I feel like the clothing is a little can lean,

759
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 2: a little jigglow.

760
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 4: I was going to say, like Eastern European, like like

761
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: I like to go to the nightclub. Yes, let's shot

762
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: for the discotheque.

763
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,240
Speaker 2: A lot of cologne, a lot of you know, USSR

764
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: late eighties, early nineties. That makes sense to me, But

765
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: that's basically all department stores still feel that way to me.

766
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: I'll like, I'll go to Macy's on occasion. I'll just

767
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 2: be like this, I don't know anyone who wears any

768
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: of these men's clothes that like, it's not even within

769
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: my realm. It's just shimmering shirts, those weird jeans with

770
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: like the gills on them, or those.

771
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're talking about, but I've never

772
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: thought of them as gills.

773
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: That is amazing. That's such a perfect description of it.

774
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I don't understand who those are four

775
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 2: or like what the mindset of a person is that

776
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 2: wears those. I feel like it's me, like your mom's

777
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: mean boyfriend, but.

778
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: He's younger than her.

779
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: Right way, younger. He's trying to he like has more

780
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: in trying to have more in common with you, and

781
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 2: you're uncomfortable with a dirt bag.

782
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I get that.

783
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: Or if you're the singer of like twenty one Pilots

784
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: or one of those bands.

785
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 4: Is that a real band? Oh wow, that is too bad.

786
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 4: That's a real band because it's like the perfect made

787
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 4: up name.

788
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: Awful awful music. I mean my apologies to twenty one

789
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 2: pilots and the genes they wear, or that I assume

790
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: they wear. Now I've started some sort of feud with

791
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: twenty one pilots. What's next?

792
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: What a dream? A celebrity feud?

793
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm comfortable in my toe toppers. I think we

794
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,800
Speaker 2: should play a game. Oh okay, do you want to

795
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,240
Speaker 2: play a game called Gift Master or gift or a Curse,

796
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 2: Gift her a curse? Okay, I need a number between

797
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 2: one and ten from you.

798
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 3: Four.

799
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: Okay, I have to do some light calculating. I've got

800
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 2: to get our game pieces so you can promote, recommend,

801
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: do whatever you want with the microphone for a minute.

802
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 3: I'll be right back. Okay, okay, great, I guess. Okay,

803
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 3: So you can follow me on social media? Oh not

804
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: on Twitter, so I don't do that. Don't do TikTok Well,

805
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 3: I'm on it, but I don't post it. Just watch

806
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 3: I am on Instagram. It's a boom boom hillar. The

807
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: boom boom came from that time in college and I

808
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 3: was really into saying like bom bomb when I thought

809
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: something was sounded like vaguely sexy, and it just stuck

810
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 3: with me. It does not mean poop. But I have

811
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 3: been told that lots of parents call pooping boom boom

812
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 3: to their children, and so people thought my Instagram name

813
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 3: was poop Hillar, but it's not. It's it's like boom

814
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: boom bery bee. What else my favorite music hall is

815
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it lay Miss b I do love

816
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: lay Miss, and what I love about lay Miss is

817
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 3: Eponine songs. All of Epanin's songs are so good. Sometimes

818
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 3: when to let you keep going for a while, I

819
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: almost started singing.

820
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 2: I've robbed the listener, absolutely robbed the listener of a

821
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: beautiful singing moment or a trauma.

822
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: You robbed them of a trauma.

823
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: This is how the game works. I'm gonna name three things,

824
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 2: and you're going to tell me if there are a

825
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: gift or a curse and why and there are I mean,

826
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 2: I just have to be extremely clear there are correct answers.

827
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 3: So it's not an opinion game.

828
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: This is this is purely facts, So just be careful. Okay,

829
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: So let's get going here. A number one. This is

830
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 2: a listener suggestion from Stephanie. Stephanie has said or suggested

831
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: gift or a curse the way jeep owners acknowledge each

832
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 2: other with a hand signal on the road. Are you

833
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: familiar with this behavior?

834
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 3: What's the hand signal?

835
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: I think they probably just wave or something when they

836
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: see somebody else in a jeep.

837
00:45:54,400 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 4: Something that handsignal made it sound vaguely gift or a

838
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 4: curse that they do that.

839
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say. I'm gonna say a curse because every

840
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 3: time you have to always.

841
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 4: Be vigilant looking for the jeep because if they drive

842
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: by and you don't give them the little wah wah

843
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 4: wah wah, then they're gonna be offended. And it just

844
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:30,440
Speaker 4: feels like a burden. Also, it's a little exclusive.

845
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: Jeff wrong. What do you have against a little bit

846
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: of community, a little bit of people finding things in

847
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: common with each other. These jeep owners, they've done nothing

848
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: wrong and they're all I think everybody should be waving

849
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: to everyone in a similar we should a court owners

850
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 2: should be waving at each other. You know what, other

851
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: car the Kia Sorrento owners, let's wave.

852
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 3: So if you do have a prius in LA you

853
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 3: just have to constantly.

854
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:07,479
Speaker 2: Up in the air at all times. I absolutely look

855
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,279
Speaker 2: for Torust owners their every car. You've got your little

856
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: community that you've You've paid thousands of dollars for this thing.

857
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,120
Speaker 2: You should be part of your little club. I don't

858
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: know if it's a Chevy Malibu. Everybody should have their

859
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: own little secret handshake for their different car.

860
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 3: A gift. It's a gift. Okay, you've corrected me.

861
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 5: Thank you.

862
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: I already got one wrong.

863
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: You've gotten one wrong, and that you know that's gonna

864
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: shade the rest of the game for you, no matter.

865
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 3: What you do. Wait, is this the point of the

866
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: game that no matter what I say, you're going to

867
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:42,360
Speaker 3: say the opposite.

868
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 2: Absolutely not. People have won this game, Jiff, very few,

869
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 2: very few people. But people have won the game. They've

870
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: overcome the odds. And it's because they were good at

871
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,720
Speaker 2: the game, and they didn't try to blame the host.

872
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 2: They didn't try to accuse me of cheating or trying

873
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: to rig the game. They just I think it takes

874
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: a pure heart to win the game. Do with that

875
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,279
Speaker 2: information what you will.

876
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh well I already knew I was impure, So

877
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,240
Speaker 3: that's fine.

878
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: All right. Here's number two. This is also a listener suggestion.

879
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: Someone named Mariah has said gift or a curse Disney

880
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: live action remakes. So these movies that Disney is now making,

881
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 2: they'll take their snow whites, what have yous and then

882
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 2: turn them into a real live action movie.

883
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 4: Well, this is subjective in my opinion, because certain people

884
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,920
Speaker 4: is a huge gift and other people it's a huge curse.

885
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 4: And it really just comes down to like, are you

886
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:47,760
Speaker 4: a Disney person or not? Where am I?

887
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 3: You know?

888
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 4: I like musical theater and they're usually the live action

889
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 4: remakes are of cartoons, and the cartoons are always musicals.

890
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say a gift. The world needs more

891
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 4: interpretations of allan ink and songs.

892
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 2: Do they keep the songs?

893
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: I think so?

894
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 4: Don't think certainly they didn't do that live action Beauty

895
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 4: and the Beast and not sing Beauty and the Beast right,

896
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 4: or lale as Old as Time the Lion King and

897
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 4: not be like Hans you know, and all that stuff

898
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 4: I do. Can you imagine they're like, Okay, we got Beyonce,

899
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 4: but we're not We're gonna just like.

900
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,319
Speaker 3: Put in some She probably did have her own new song.

901
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: Actually, if she didn't have her own song. Then something

902
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: went wrong and the negotiating of that contract.

903
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they'd be dumb did not give her

904
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 4: own song, so but they certainly had I can't wait

905
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 4: to be king and Guna Matata I didn't.

906
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 3: I haven't seen any of them.

907
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 2: So I haven't seen any of them either. You're speaking

908
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 2: to the wrong person here, and you're wrong. I think,

909
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 2: I mean what, we don't need them. It's just fully unnecessary.

910
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: It's a curse. It's again. I feel like what's happening.

911
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 2: I feel like fan art has taken over the planet

912
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: and these just f be a like fan art at

913
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 2: a two hundred million dollar level. No, thank you.

914
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 4: I don't know Hermione Granger or whatever her real name is,

915
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 4: Emma something.

916
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: She needed that money.

917
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: Henny, which one was she?

918
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 3: I think she was beauty? Oh?

919
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: Was she beauty? I wish the character's name was beauty

920
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:29,839
Speaker 2: so bad. That was really alter the way that story told.

921
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: Every time, everyone just telling her beauty.

922
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 4: It's so true. I feel like in the tale it

923
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 4: kind of was beauty. But then probably they were like

924
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: little girls are not gonna like a girl named beauty.

925
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: Hey, beauty, her name's beauty. But we're gonna make a

926
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,840
Speaker 3: real bookish that it's.

927
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: Belle Belle, Belle is right, get over here, beauty. That

928
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 2: really just makes I mean, I get hopefully there's a

929
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: line in the movie that's get over here. But anyway, okay,

930
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 2: Unfortunately Jeff zero points so far, it's not shocking, but

931
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: it is shocking.

932
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 3: It's it's not shocking, let's face it. I want the

933
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 3: names and recordings of the people who won this, and

934
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be like it's gonna be like the one

935
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 3: person who won it is when you played yourself.

936
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: There are like fifty episodes of this podcast that are

937
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 2: just me talking and then playing the game with myself,

938
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 2: just agreeing with everything you say to myself. I mean,

939
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: there are I think maybe four or five people I

940
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 2: need to have a list on the wall to reference.

941
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: The first person to win was and she knocked me

942
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 2: off my socks was Naomi k Paragan and she nailed it.

943
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 2: And then and I didn't think anyone would ever win again,

944
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 2: and a few other people won, but look.

945
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 4: Well guess what, Thank goodness, I'm here because if Naomi

946
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 4: not too off your sock, I gave you some new ones.

947
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: Well you've got one you gave me half a sock. Ah,

948
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 2: this is the final final one. You've got at least

949
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 2: a chance to kind of redeem yourself. A listener has

950
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: suggested a listener named Sophia is saying gift or a

951
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 2: curse people uploading full wedding gallery photos to Facebook. So

952
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 2: I guess they're you know, these people get married, get hundreds,

953
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 2: if not thousands of photos taken, and then upload all

954
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: of it to Facebook rather than selecting.

955
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 4: Well, I know, look, I'm gonna I already got two

956
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 4: of them wrong, so I'm going to lose anyway. So

957
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 4: I'm going to take a controversial opinion because I know

958
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 4: you're not going to say. I know you're going to

959
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 4: say it's a curse. I get that. I get that.

960
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 4: But here's my thing. When people are.

961
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: Like, don't post pictures of your kid on Instagram, like

962
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 3: literally just do this, you know what I mean? Like

963
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 3: this keep scrawling baby. Like if somebody is like super

964
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 3: pumped about their kid or their cat, or their wedding

965
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 3: or the meal that they had last night, I am like,

966
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: there is so little that's good in this world. If

967
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: it's going to give you life to post one thousand

968
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 3: pictures of you wearing that dress which you'll never be

969
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 3: able to wear again. Let's face it, even if you

970
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 3: can fit into it, it's weird if you wear it again.

971
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 3: You may even paid a lot of money for that.

972
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,000
Speaker 3: I say, get it.

973
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 4: And if your listener doesn't want to see those, you

974
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 4: don't have to click through.

975
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 3: You can just keep on squirreling. Baby.

976
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 4: You can even toss a courtesy like and keep on moving.

977
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 4: You don't have to go through each one.

978
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 3: So there it is.

979
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong, you're right, of course? Who cares?

980
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, if you're even on Facebook

981
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 2: at this point, I don't know what you're you have

982
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: nothing to complain about. Also, I love just an assault

983
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 2: of photos, just dumping. Just back up the dump truck

984
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 2: and drop off every one of those wedding photos on Facebook?

985
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 2: Is that? Why is anyone there in the first place?

986
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: So if not to look at hundreds, if not thousands,

987
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 2: of photos of you and your parents and your parents' friends,

988
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:27,239
Speaker 2: and pictures of the cake you ordered, I think it's

989
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 2: it's obnoxious, it's great. I love it. It's also who cares?

990
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And can't you mute people? Isn't that a thing?

991
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: Mute?

992
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:34,800
Speaker 3: Also?

993
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: Let's be honest. When if it's somebody that you don't

994
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: really like, you get to go through those photos and

995
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 2: criticize them.

996
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 3: Hate Scroll, Yeah, I hate scroll. We love that.

997
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with this everyone. I mean, we should

998
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 2: all get married and get hundreds and thousands of photos

999
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 2: taken and upload them to Facebook. Maybe it'll bring the

1000
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 2: site down. Maybe they won't have the bandwidth to to

1001
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: hold all of our wedding photos.

1002
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:07,000
Speaker 3: What an inside job. I'm so smart. Take this, Zuckerberg.

1003
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna take advantage of all your data

1004
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 4: mining or.

1005
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 2: Whatever, billions and billions of wedding photos just instantly uploading

1006
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 2: to Facebook. I think that might be the way out

1007
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: of this, you know, social media nightmare. That's something we

1008
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 2: should all consider. Everyone, pick a partner and get married,

1009
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: and we'll report back in a few months on Facebook.

1010
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 3: Are you married? I'm not married. No, you are married

1011
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 3: to a maker? Were a yogurt maker? Bet? But we

1012
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 3: didn't have a wedding. I just went to judge.

1013
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: I couldn't do a wedding. The idea of it's too much,

1014
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 2: and even like a party I throw, I usually don't

1015
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:55,239
Speaker 2: enjoy that much because I'm stressed out exactly, and then

1016
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: the idea of being like, oh, I spend one hundred

1017
00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,879
Speaker 2: thousand dollars on this party that I'm not enjoying exactly

1018
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 2: makes no sense to me.

1019
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 3: I know, but you know what I did do?

1020
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 2: What did you?

1021
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 3: I bought a nice cardigan from Nordy Rack.

1022
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 2: It's perfect. See that's all you, Docaud. You wear it

1023
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: to the Okay, that's wonderful. When did you get married?

1024
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 3: Oh, gosh, thirteen, I think twenty thirteen. It's been a minute. Yeah,

1025
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: And did.

1026
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 2: You guys have it even like a small party or anything.

1027
00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 4: We went out to brunch afterwards, perfect friend Liz, and

1028
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 4: she paid and I was like, you paid for my reception.

1029
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 2: That's all it should be. I mean, I guess some

1030
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,399
Speaker 2: people enjoyed it, but it's as far from the way

1031
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: I operate as humanly possible.

1032
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1033
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 4: I mainly did it so that if he dies, I

1034
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 4: get the apartment. That's the kind of romance that in

1035
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 4: the tax.

1036
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 2: Breaks, just pure romance. That's a magic carpet ride. I

1037
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 2: ever heard of one. Okay, Jeff, this is the final

1038
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 2: segment of the podcast. It's called I said no emails

1039
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: people write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com.

1040
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: They have problems, they have concerns about their lives, They've

1041
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 2: got issues dealing with giving gifts, social situations. I can't

1042
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: tell you how many of these listeners have problems. It's

1043
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: very stressful. So then I bring you the guest in

1044
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 2: and we try to help someone. Will you answer a

1045
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: question with me?

1046
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 3: I'm sure?

1047
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 2: Okay, I was like, no, fair, sure, you got to

1048
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:39,479
Speaker 2: get to the wreck.

1049
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 3: God's sake, I have IIan merchandise, said discount prices waiting

1050
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 3: for me.

1051
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: Okay, let me let me read this question. It says Hybridger.

1052
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 2: They didn't even address the guests, which I find rude.

1053
00:57:57,960 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 3: Do they know who the guest is? No?

1054
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: But you Usually the person will write in and say

1055
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 2: Hybridger and guest or Highbridge are and blank And this

1056
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,920
Speaker 2: person is really just going at me.

1057
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 3: But maybe I should have stained.

1058
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 2: Just bang pots and pans while I'm trying to answer the.

1059
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 3: Question, sigh dramatically.

1060
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: Okay, high Bridger and Jeff, let's just say I'm gonna

1061
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 2: type it into one thing. Actually, Hybridger and Jeff, I

1062
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 2: am in desperate need of your help to find the

1063
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 2: right birthday gift for my brother. We are Irish twins

1064
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 2: in our early thirties, but we aren't that close anymore.

1065
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 2: He is the most withholding person I know and impossible

1066
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: to read. I am the literal opposite. He owns and

1067
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: operates a distillery and a bar. He went to Harvard.

1068
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, and so did his girlfriend. Quite the intimidating duo.

1069
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 2: He likes to work out, recently got a new house

1070
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 2: and that's about all I know. Please, what do I get?

1071
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 2: This person? Love the show? Oh, that's nice? And then anonymous,

1072
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 2: which I find this person really left out some details,

1073
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 2: and that's fine. They're obviously. First of all, let's get

1074
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: into what an Irish twin is. Is that when someone's

1075
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 2: like a year apart from their sibling.

1076
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, okay, but we don't know who's the older

1077
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 3: of the two, right, I mean with twins that were

1078
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: sort of like traditional twins like paternal are identical. You know, yes,

1079
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,120
Speaker 3: one of them is technically older, but basically at the

1080
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 3: same age, whereas Irish twins like you know, if you're

1081
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: the thirty two year old and your brother is the

1082
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: thirty one year old, then that's very different than if

1083
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 3: you're the thirty one year old and your brother's the

1084
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 3: thirty two year old.

1085
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: I think I don't know why you don't by the

1086
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 4: gender of the person writing. I know gender doesn't mean anything,

1087
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 4: but it does mean something to me in this moment.

1088
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 2: But right now it's the most important thing in the

1089
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 2: world to refuse to answer.

1090
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: I what do you think? What do you think?

1091
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 2: So well, look, there are so few details. We basically

1092
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: know that this the brother is kind of a a

1093
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 2: genius who's just absolutely ripped. He loves to work out,

1094
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 2: he's in a beautiful home. And this is all the

1095
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 2: sibling knows about this person other than he owns a

1096
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: successful distillery and bar went to Harvard. I mean, and

1097
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 2: again this kind of comes back to our college discussion.

1098
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 2: This person's obviously feeling a little insecure.

1099
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 4: Maybe if it's your big Irish twin, it's not quite

1100
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 4: as bad as it's your little Irish twin who went

1101
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,000
Speaker 4: to Harvard and you went to University of Utah. Present

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Speaker 4: company excluded.

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Speaker 2: So the birthday gift, I mean, it feels like Anonymous. No,

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I almost don't even want to give Anonymous

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Speaker 2: any help because the lack of details here makes me

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01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 2: think they don't want to get big or little brother anything.

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01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 4: Right, But I mean that whole thing of like he's

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01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 4: the most withholding human being I've ever met in my

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01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 4: entire life, and he went to Harvard.

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Speaker 3: There's some real resentment under there.

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01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 2: They've got a new house. You know, the brother is

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 2: obviously wildly successful, and their life is absolutely perfect. I

1113
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 2: think what they need is to be taken down a notch.

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01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 2: I think the gift here should be some sort of

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01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 2: attack or threatening.

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01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 3: A gift certificate to that online therapy thing that metel

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01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 3: helps does.

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01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, give some sort of backhanded gift that's kind of like,

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Speaker 2: not everything's perfect for you. I know that the distillery

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01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: is just breaking in the money, and you're constantly rubbing

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01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 2: your diploma in my face.

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01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 3: And your Ivy league girlfriend.

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01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 2: This person's related to a couple of bullies, a couple

1124
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 2: of Harvard bullies, and.

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01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 4: I know that Anonymous is the bully. After all, Anonymous

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01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: has already just erased me.

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01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: It's just just.

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Speaker 2: Erasure complete at the size the show of disrespect here

1129
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: is disgusting. And meanwhile, the brother, who seems very level

1130
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 2: headed is just on the path of success. Didn't even

1131
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: have to write into the podcast. He's got everything under control.

1132
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 2: He doesn't need my help.

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01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,560
Speaker 3: Right, he doesn't even need a degree to run the distillery,

1134
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 3: but he has one from Harvard.

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01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 2: So I think the giftonymous is to show them a

1136
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 2: little more respect. Let go of the jealousy, let go

1137
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 2: of the anger. I know that things haven't gone quite

1138
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: your way, Anonymous, but that's not your brother or his

1139
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 2: snob girlfriend's fault. They're just living their you know, kind

1140
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 2: of elitist life and you need to grovel at their feet.

1141
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 3: What is it? Distillery? Is that? In my mind, that's

1142
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: like whiskey? But can that just be beer?

1143
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 2: I think I'm absolutely the last person you should be asking.

1144
01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I assume that it's more hard

1145
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 2: liquor type thing.

1146
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 3: It's a hard.

1147
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I believe a brewery would.

1148
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 3: Bere and vineyard would be wine. Right, So what distillery

1149
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 3: is like?

1150
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 2: So this is kind of like a vodka magnate or

1151
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: whiskey or.

1152
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 4: Right from men? All those potatoes or whatever.

1153
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, your potatoes, your corns, your what have you, and

1154
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 2: then running this high end bar that you're using to

1155
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: kind of flaunt your money. As your anonymous sibling. I mean,

1156
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: it's just a shadow in your life.

1157
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 3: Right, does feel like.

1158
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I know he owns the distillery, he's not

1159
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 4: a bartender, but it does feel like it's interesting to

1160
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 4: think of a bartender who's completely withholding. But I guess

1161
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 4: bartender's sort of like a therapist, and a therapist is

1162
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 4: also withholding, you know, professionally, right.

1163
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 3: Anyway, Yeah, I think I think the gift is staying

1164
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 3: out of his.

1165
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: Life, leave him alone. I mean, go mop his floors.

1166
01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: He obviously loves to just see you degraded and at

1167
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: your worst.

1168
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: Or go to home goods and getting something cute for

1169
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: the apartment.

1170
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: For the little sign, Yeah, the little saying.

1171
01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:03,760
Speaker 3: Something you know about spirit started working out live laugh, squat.

1172
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 2: There we go. We got to the gift. It just

1173
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 2: took some time, and it was because there were not

1174
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 2: enough details. And I hope Anonymous has learned a lot

1175
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:21,000
Speaker 2: of lessons here, obviously not Harvard level lessons, but you

1176
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 2: take what you can get.

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01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, I've met a few people who went to

1178
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 3: Harvard that might have been a Harvard level lesson. I

1179
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 3: don't know. We'll see.

1180
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 2: These Harvard people. Give me a break. Geoffrey answered the

1181
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 2: question beyond what Anonymous could have asked for. It was perfect.

1182
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 2: They got the gift idea, they learned. I now am

1183
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 2: currently in toetoppers. I've learned. You know that there was

1184
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 2: a difference between a toe topper and a half of

1185
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 2: a hidden sock.

1186
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish we knew the actual name for those

1187
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:02,320
Speaker 4: little right, So maybe it's just an invisible song.

1188
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 3: Invisible or no show sock.

1189
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 2: No show. No show sounds right to me.

1190
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 3: No show feels right, yeah, right.

1191
01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 2: And I frequently have to. I frequently buy them out

1192
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 2: of the women's sock department because I feel like men

1193
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: the ones they make for men are too big for

1194
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 2: my feet.

1195
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 3: Oh see, I have a Sice thirteen shoe.

1196
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 2: So again, back to the rack. You go to the

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01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 2: thirteen section. Any shoe you could have ever imagined, They've

1198
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 2: got them.

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01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 4: It's it's it's good. Although sometimes sometimes the elevens seem better,

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01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: and I can sometimes squeeze into it twelve, but an

1201
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 4: eleven never, never in a million years.

1202
01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 2: That's that is a tip I'll give for the rack.

1203
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: Don't squeeze into a shoe. I know that the deal

1204
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,880
Speaker 2: is great, but you're gonna regret, You're gonna never wear it.

1205
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 2: You'll never wear it. Then it's not a deal. It's

1206
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 2: money you threw away exactly, so don't be seduced.

1207
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 4: Also, truly look at the app. It's fun to go

1208
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 4: into the store, but sometimes it's just nice to shop

1209
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 4: from your.

1210
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 3: Bed, you know what I mean.

1211
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 2: I've got to get the app. I've got to get

1212
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 2: into the app.

1213
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 3: It's worth it. It's worth it. Sometimes they have special deals,

1214
01:07:15,720 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 3: collections and things like that.

1215
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 2: Jeff Hiller Nords from Rack Rep. Jeff, I've had such

1216
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: a wonderful time with you.

1217
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 4: This is just so dry, so have I And I

1218
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 4: know you said no gifts, but I just saw those

1219
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 4: toast socks and thought, damn it, this is Bridger.

1220
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,960
Speaker 2: Well, I can't wait to wear them in my uh

1221
01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:45,160
Speaker 2: winter wear shoes that I'll you know, be wandering maybe.

1222
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 3: Los Angeles where you want an exposed heel, but you

1223
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 3: probably have really good heels right there. You want to

1224
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:49,880
Speaker 3: show them all.

1225
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 2: My heels are not great, oh la, they seem fine.

1226
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 2: Maybe I need to work on them. Maybe this is

1227
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 2: a sign.

1228
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,200
Speaker 3: You know what. That's what this gift is.

1229
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 4: It was a passive aggressive way of being like, need

1230
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 4: to get a pumic stone.

1231
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: Again, trying to drive me to spend more money.

1232
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 3: It's not gonna happen.

1233
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,240
Speaker 2: Not happened a monster.

1234
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 3: I'm a capitalist monster.

1235
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for being here, and.

1236
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 3: I said, thank you so much for having me. I mean, sincerely,

1237
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 3: thank you for having me.

1238
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,680
Speaker 2: He edit it on a very kind of tense note.

1239
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,879
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened in those last four seconds,

1240
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 2: but things took a turn and I left a sour

1241
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 2: taste in my mouth. Jeff Hiller is not somebody that

1242
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 2: I will be communicating with again. Very templemental listener, This

1243
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 2: is the end of the podcast. We're just gonna let

1244
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: you go and do whatever you want to do. I

1245
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 2: have no recommendations or anything for what you can do

1246
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 2: with the rest of your day, so I'm going to

1247
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 2: leave that up to you. Get into your little toolbox

1248
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:18,000
Speaker 2: and figure it out for yourself. Thank you, goodbye, I said,

1249
01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 2: No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's produced by

1250
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 2: our dear friend Analise Nelson, and it's beautifully mixed by

1251
01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:28,800
Speaker 2: John Bradley. The theme song, of course, could only come

1252
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:32,840
Speaker 2: from miracle worker Amy Man. You must follow the show

1253
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 2: on Instagram. At I said No Gifts, I don't want

1254
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 2: to hear any excuses. That's where you get to see

1255
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 2: pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting And don't

1256
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: you want to see pictures of the gifts? Now? Make

1257
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 2: sure to listen, follow, and most important, they leave a

1258
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 2: heartfelt review on Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts or wherever you

1259
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:54,160
Speaker 2: get your podcasts, and don't forget. You can listen to

1260
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:58,160
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1261
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,080
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1262
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 2: Wondering app.

1263
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:11,320
Speaker 1: But I invited you here, thought, I made myself perfectly clear.

1264
01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 3: But you're I guess to my home.

1265
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 5: You gotta come to me empty? And I said, no,

1266
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 5: guess your own presences presents enough that I already had

1267
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 5: too much stuff.

1268
01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:33,800
Speaker 3: So how did you dare to surbey me