WEBVTT - Time Is Something You Can't Get Back (BA Q&A)

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for the b a q a a to

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<v Speaker 1>a mand the b q ai b q a a a.

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<v Speaker 1>Mandy back in the soupy New Year, New Years. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>you hate New Years?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't because I'm a Southern gal. And that's if

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<v Speaker 2>you add an ask to the end, it means that

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<v Speaker 2>you like it more.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Aldis, Walmart.

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<v Speaker 2>Belks, Kroger's and whatever. I'm very excited to be back

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<v Speaker 2>connected to our BA fan so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, if you have questions that needs some answers, know

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<v Speaker 1>we're not your mechanic, we're not even your mama cousin.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And speaking of BA fan, I have to shut

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<v Speaker 2>out the listener who recognized me at the Atlanta airport

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<v Speaker 2>and it's usually Tiffany, but she was so nice and

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot her name because I was really stressed at

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<v Speaker 2>that time. She reached out right after the TSA security.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go through the TSA with two children, you

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<v Speaker 2>know you're a little haggard. But anyway, that was so sweet. Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're listening, so.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you have questions honest, so, you can go

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready. I'm kind of ready to say just go

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<v Speaker 2>to IG. I'm ready to get them fewer options. Hi,

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<v Speaker 2>are you should we just open or should we decided.

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<v Speaker 1>That we can decided that you can slid to our

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<v Speaker 1>DMS on IG. That's what the.

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<v Speaker 2>DMS is the best. Yeah, ig ran Ambission Podcast on IG.

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<v Speaker 2>It's easy, it's one thing to remember and our admin

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<v Speaker 2>Lauda will appreciate them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Alright, So first question, we're gonna actually do a mix up,

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<v Speaker 1>so we answer career questions, business questions, money questions. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna read this money question, but I think mand, do

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<v Speaker 1>you have a career question today?

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<v Speaker 2>I do a very juicy one. I'm very excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So this is from a queen over on ig Hello, ladies,

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<v Speaker 1>I am desperate for some advice. I have some credit

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<v Speaker 1>card debt that is making me lose sleep. My husband

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<v Speaker 1>and I have not are and I have not are

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<v Speaker 1>not making enough money. I've not been making enough money,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we spend too much. I'm wondering if we

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<v Speaker 1>should save from our third checks. I'm not really what

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<v Speaker 1>she means by that, or pay down the credit card

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<v Speaker 1>debts that now have exorbited interest rates. Okay, she's wondering

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<v Speaker 1>if she should save or pay down debt. Okay. Paying

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<v Speaker 1>the debt now though, would mean we would have to

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<v Speaker 1>use our credit card to pay down on a used

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<v Speaker 1>car next year. We're trying to get a second job. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So queen, it's sounding like one, you have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of credit card debt that is stressing you out.

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<v Speaker 2>Too.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you feel like you might not be

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<v Speaker 1>making enough money, and you have this car lease that's

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<v Speaker 1>up next year, and you're wondering should you save because

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<v Speaker 1>you have to get another car when this car lease

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<v Speaker 1>goes up, or should you put that money toward the

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<v Speaker 1>credit card debt because you feel like, if I put

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<v Speaker 1>down the money on this credit card debt, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have enough money to save. We're still going to have

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<v Speaker 1>to get in the debt to buy a car. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what it's all sounding like. Okay, so queen, first things first,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like, and this is no judgment, that some

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<v Speaker 1>of to your own admission, the credit card debt that

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<v Speaker 1>you find yourself in is not for just day to

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<v Speaker 1>day living, you know, because you share that like you've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like overspent, you know, and that happens, you

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<v Speaker 1>know sometimes, you know, we don't always exercise the full

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<v Speaker 1>control that we have over our credit cards. So it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you might need to just say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to cut out the usage of these credit

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<v Speaker 1>cards because it's gonna be very difficult to pay off

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards if we are if you're currently using those

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<v Speaker 1>credit cards. So unless you're using credit cards for like

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<v Speaker 1>necessities like groceries or medicine or things you absolutely need,

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<v Speaker 1>and I probably, honestly you will cut my credit cards up.

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<v Speaker 1>I would go as far as to call a credit

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<v Speaker 1>card company to say lost my card or would like

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<v Speaker 1>for you to change the number on my credit card

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<v Speaker 1>so they're not saved on your computer and your phone

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm sure they are currently.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's smart.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I need to do, because lord knows,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have to say it's just right there, chat

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<v Speaker 1>don't another numbers log in?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, thank you for real.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one. I definitely would like, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>stop credit card usage if it's possible, if you're if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not using it for things that are necessary.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's one.

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<v Speaker 1>Two. Although you know savings, you know is great. Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming when you said exorbitant interest rates and you

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<v Speaker 1>have double dishes interest rates. So whenever you're deciding whether

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<v Speaker 1>to save or pay down debt, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that should lead that decision is where what does the

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<v Speaker 1>interest look like? So if you put your money and

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<v Speaker 1>you save it into a savings account, the most interest

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably gonna earn right now is like what four percent,

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<v Speaker 1>give or take. But you're I'm sure your interest rates

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<v Speaker 1>for your credit card debt twenty maybe even thirty percent.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the credit cards are costing you twenty percent

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<v Speaker 1>and savings is only going to make you four percent,

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<v Speaker 1>then you're probably gonna want to put more money toward

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<v Speaker 1>paying down that debt because it's costing you. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>that is so expensive that it's costing you whatever savings

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<v Speaker 1>you would have saved. So I would focus most of

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<v Speaker 1>my time and energy, certainly set aside a little something

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<v Speaker 1>for emergencies, but most like if I had one hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>I might do like twenty dollars savings eighty dollars credit

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<v Speaker 1>card debt, that kind of like mix, because your credit

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<v Speaker 1>card debt is just costing you so so, so so

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<v Speaker 1>so much, and getting a second job, you know, might

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<v Speaker 1>not be a bad idea. But before you get a

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<v Speaker 1>second job, I want you to sit down and look

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<v Speaker 1>at your budget to see, like do we actually make

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<v Speaker 1>enough to cover what we need to cover? Because I

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<v Speaker 1>would hate for you to take on additional work when

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<v Speaker 1>really it's a matter of budgeting, you know. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would sit down and look at my budget and ask myself, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like the amount of money that we're making, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>based upon like what we have to spend to maintain

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<v Speaker 1>our lives, there's actually enough money here, it might be,

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<v Speaker 1>and if not, then certainly you can look at you know,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at additional income. And then my last final thing

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<v Speaker 1>is is that, like I shared this on the Wednesday show,

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<v Speaker 1>is that this year I have my annual Live with

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<v Speaker 1>Your Challenge. It starts January fourteenth, but sign up for

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<v Speaker 1>the free challenge ends January. No, it starts January fifteenth, Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>but sign up end January fourteenth. And so I encourage

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<v Speaker 1>you and anybody who has any credit issues, Queen, to

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<v Speaker 1>go to l r C Credit LRC credits dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and sign up for the challenge. We already have three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred thousand people plus signed up. You will not be alone.

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<v Speaker 1>There will be other people struggling with credit. Week one

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<v Speaker 1>how to grow and your credit score, and week three

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<v Speaker 1>how to maintain credit so you never find yourself in

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<v Speaker 1>this position again. It's totally free. It's a three week

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<v Speaker 1>like email course. It comes with an app that's free

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<v Speaker 1>as well that we just built. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to help you as you navigate your credit journey,

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<v Speaker 1>so you find yourself not in this business sit again.

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<v Speaker 1>So LRC credit dot com. The link will be in

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<v Speaker 1>the show notes. But I wish you well clean anything

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot Mandy, get.

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<v Speaker 2>Thee to the library and get Tiffany's book and her work.

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<v Speaker 2>But your work book going to be in the library.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, wadeholes in the library too.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. When I'm writing at my library, I just

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<v Speaker 2>I work on the ninth non fiction floor or near

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<v Speaker 2>that section, and I just stroll over to the business

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<v Speaker 2>section sometimes and I say, Hi, Tiv, really you in

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<v Speaker 2>the library.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to live in the library as a kid, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Libraries are are amazing. Yeah. My thing is with the

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<v Speaker 2>car and credit card debt at this at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, even though it makes sense on paper

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<v Speaker 2>to paid on credit card debt and that sounds good

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<v Speaker 2>and save and all that, but you need a good car,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, so especially like you know, most working people,

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<v Speaker 2>the car is the in this country. It's like the

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<v Speaker 2>way to get to the money, to the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>make the money. So I would just say, make sure

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting saved transportation. And sometimes safety comes before logic

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<v Speaker 2>and credit card bills, you know. And if you're in

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<v Speaker 2>a situation where you might need to like consolidate debt

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<v Speaker 2>if it's too much, if you're in over your head,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look for ways to consolidate debt, do a

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<v Speaker 2>balanced transfer to make it a little bit less cumbersome,

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<v Speaker 2>make it less stressful, less expensive, help you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>tackle it. But you gotta. Yeah, Like I agree with Tiff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the thing with budgeting that's so scary

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<v Speaker 2>when you have that kind of debt is like emptying

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<v Speaker 2>out the drawer and looking at all the stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>in it. Ooof I think, yeah, that's that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>the hard part. But lock arms with your partner and

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<v Speaker 2>do it together, because you ain't going to get out

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<v Speaker 2>of this you're doing it. You're getting into the hole together,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're not going to get out without being together

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<v Speaker 2>if you're not both on the same page. So I

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<v Speaker 2>wish you so much luck and thank you that question

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<v Speaker 2>real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>So the National Foundation of Credit Counseling n FCC dot org.

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<v Speaker 1>They're a great nonprofit that help walk people through, like

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<v Speaker 1>if you really the extra extra handholding, consider them as well.

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<v Speaker 1>They have nonprofit partners around the country, So you would

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<v Speaker 1>go to NFCC dot org and you would find one

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<v Speaker 1>in the closest area to you. So if you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of need to sit with a credit counselor that you'll

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<v Speaker 1>be you know you'll be able to work with a

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<v Speaker 1>credit counselor there too. So good luck to you, queen.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, queen. Should we take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 2>be right back with my You're gonna love this question,

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<v Speaker 2>see you one of it. Okayba fan, we are back

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<v Speaker 2>and I am so excited to give you guys an update.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've been listening to the show the last I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know a few months, you might have heard back

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<v Speaker 2>in the fall when we took a question from someone

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<v Speaker 2>who wanted to be anonymous that we called her Crossroads.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, Crossroad was looking for a job for

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<v Speaker 2>over a year and said that she left her full

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<v Speaker 2>time job due to racial incidents, you know, proliferate by

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<v Speaker 2>her supervisor. Is that the right word? Proliferiding man done?

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<v Speaker 2>Her supervisor was racist, and colleagues left her feeling unsafe.

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<v Speaker 2>She had over a decade of full time work experience

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<v Speaker 2>and currently yeah, and currently she's a full time PhD

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<v Speaker 2>student and she's been working as a graduate assistant to

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<v Speaker 2>make ends meet. Now she's getting back into the job

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<v Speaker 2>market and feeling like not only is she having trouble

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<v Speaker 2>getting an offer, but because she's you know, a PhD

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<v Speaker 2>graduate assistant. She's finding the pay is not matching her

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<v Speaker 2>level of experience, and she was really trying to find

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<v Speaker 2>a position. So her ultimate question is that should she

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<v Speaker 2>find roles in her current field, the field that she

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<v Speaker 2>had left because of the toxicity, or make a career

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<v Speaker 2>switch and rebuild. Now we're in the future now and

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<v Speaker 2>Crossroads sent me an update. First, she said thank you

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<v Speaker 2>to our advice. I guess we responded to two of

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<v Speaker 2>her questions, and she says, I took your advice and

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<v Speaker 2>I leaned into my network as I hadn't for quite

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<v Speaker 2>some time in my search. To my surprise, well, a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of folks didn't know I was looking for a

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<v Speaker 2>job since I'm still in school. They were very helpful

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<v Speaker 2>and I yielded several leads. I landed an interim role

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<v Speaker 2>in a different field that lasted for two months through

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<v Speaker 2>the end of this year twenty twenty three. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a great opportunity. I learned a lot in a short

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<v Speaker 2>period of time, and it even sparked an entrepreneurial flame

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<v Speaker 2>that I planned to invest in within the coming year.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty four. Now has come with a bang, I receive.

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<v Speaker 2>I have received two job offers within the first days,

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<v Speaker 2>first few days of the new year. Both are what

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<v Speaker 2>I specifically prayed for, and I'm immensely grateful. My experience

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<v Speaker 2>on the long term job search has taught me so

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<v Speaker 2>much about myself and given me clarity on my career

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<v Speaker 2>path moving forward. Thank you so much for both your

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<v Speaker 2>answers and support for AFAR. You made me feel seen

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<v Speaker 2>and understood during a time when I felt just the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>May God continue to bless you both. Your work on

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<v Speaker 2>Brown Ambition is a ministry. This is the best part.

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<v Speaker 2>Signed no longer at a crossroad.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, make me cry. That is the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's the best. And I just love stories like

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<v Speaker 2>this because the long road does have an end, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. She was looking for a job

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<v Speaker 2>for so long. A lot of people are, especially when

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<v Speaker 2>you're especially when you're at a certain level in your

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<v Speaker 2>career where what you're looking for is rarer. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I have to tell people, like, just expectations. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going to take a while, but that's just thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so proud of you. Yeah, so proud of you.

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<v Speaker 1>So is that normal? Because I had a friend who

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<v Speaker 1>got his masters, super smart you know, had great jobs

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<v Speaker 1>and then it took six months. They were like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on? So is that like that's not even

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<v Speaker 1>that bad really because I was going to say that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know before you know, prior to this, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>three four months maybe, but like, so is that typical

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of like the higher you get in your career,

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<v Speaker 1>the more education you get, that like replacing that job

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<v Speaker 1>that you're seeing people take six months or longer to

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<v Speaker 1>find replacement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't want to paint with a

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<v Speaker 2>broad brush, but I would say if you are someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's yes, you have a particular skill set, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on changes by industry, some industries, if you hit

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<v Speaker 2>at the right moment, they're really hiring and jobs are plentiful.

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<v Speaker 2>We kind of all went through that in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we're leveling out. The job market is really

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<v Speaker 2>strong right now, but people don't really feel that way

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<v Speaker 2>because it's taking a little bit harder, a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>longer to find job, not a little bit a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of bit longer to find jobs. It feels like there's

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<v Speaker 2>a fewer of them out there, even though job numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are still exceeding expectations and The reason is why this

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<v Speaker 2>is kind of what a normal job market feels like.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at this data for my book because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still doing that writing a book, and I think the

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<v Speaker 2>average there's a stat the average. Let me just look

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<v Speaker 2>it up real quick. Okay, so this is a stat

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<v Speaker 2>I just cited in my book coming to a library

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<v Speaker 2>in bookstore near you at some point in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I got to write it first. How

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<v Speaker 2>long it actually takes to find a job is about

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<v Speaker 2>five months? Really, yes, that's on average. Okay, So I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's not to deter people from you know, being

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<v Speaker 2>on the lookout, but this is I do know the trick,

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<v Speaker 2>as Crossroads has found, of speeding up that timeline, working

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<v Speaker 2>your network at all times. And I find that people

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<v Speaker 2>who shelter in school or not shelter in school, but

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<v Speaker 2>they're going back to school, they're getting an MBA, they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting a PhD, they're doing a certificate program. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like you're doing a thing for your career when you're

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<v Speaker 2>in school and you are, you are elevating your skills,

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<v Speaker 2>you're making yourself more attractive as a job candidate. But

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<v Speaker 2>the worst thing you can do is also not engage

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<v Speaker 2>with your network and keep them engaged. The minute that

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<v Speaker 2>crossroads we just heard from her opened her mouth and

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<v Speaker 2>said to her network, I am looking for work. She

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<v Speaker 2>had a decade of a decade of experience. It's coming

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<v Speaker 2>back to me, not what I said for at the time. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>with a decade of experience, you met so many people

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<v Speaker 2>across that timeline. They need to know that they can

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<v Speaker 2>help you, that you're looking for help. And yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I would just say to anyone who's facing or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about quitting or pivoting into a new field, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know you've been let go unfortunately, Yeah, three to

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<v Speaker 2>six months, I feel like is a safe That's why

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<v Speaker 2>they say three to six months of your income save it.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you want the cheat code, the only cheek

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<v Speaker 2>code I can think of when it comes, it ain't

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<v Speaker 2>your resume. It sometimes isn't even the skills that you

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<v Speaker 2>can attain. It is making great relationships over the course

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<v Speaker 2>of your career, investing in them like seeds, seeds that

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<v Speaker 2>you don't plan to sew until you absolutely need it,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why he got his job. One of his

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<v Speaker 1>literally like elementary school friends, like was like wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know, okay, and then put in a good word.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, because we don't think that, we think that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, I apply.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're all out here working hard. I'm pulling

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves up bootstraps.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's bys yes, people, putting a good word in for

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<v Speaker 1>you is so critical. So yeah, that's I'm so happy crossroads. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>and honestly I want to I would love the appam

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<v Speaker 1>if you did that more that if we answer the

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<v Speaker 1>question for you, or even if we didn't answer a

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<v Speaker 1>question directly, let's just say you listened and you heard

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<v Speaker 1>some advice and it applied to your situation. We love

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<v Speaker 1>an update if we answered your questions, or we would

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<v Speaker 1>just love Hey, that thing you told that other person.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked for me too. And here's how, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's great for people to hear that you know

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<v Speaker 1>they're not alone, and then you know there is light

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the tunnel, so every tunnel.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I do want to get to this new question

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<v Speaker 2>because I can't wait. I can't wait for your update

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<v Speaker 2>email because this one just made me chuckle. So the

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<v Speaker 2>first thing you got to know is this comes from

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<v Speaker 2>someone who wants us to call him budget Bro. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, Tiffany Bro. Budget Bro says, and this, hello ladies.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, I need to get with Kevin and work

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<v Speaker 2>out the details. Lol. If y'all are you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know if you have to be an OGBA listener,

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<v Speaker 2>but Kevin is our favorite. Kevin was a mail listener,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is still a mail listener who We had

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<v Speaker 2>him on the show because he used to write in

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<v Speaker 2>the most incredible questions starting with his wife and his

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<v Speaker 2>advice for her about her career, which we had to

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<v Speaker 2>set him straight on. But I just love that budget

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<v Speaker 2>Bro has listened and wants to be besties with Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>because based on his question, I think they would get

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<v Speaker 2>along just fine. All right, budget Bro says, I'm thirty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I work in the chemical refining industry as an analyst

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<v Speaker 2>at an amazing company in Louisiana. I make about one

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<v Speaker 2>thirty five a year, but I can add twenty k

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<v Speaker 2>to that and make one fifty five, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty five thousand dollars a year with overtime. Right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm married, we have two toddlers. Oh God, bless I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have any debt aside from student loans. We own

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<v Speaker 2>a home. I'm leaning in, he said. I am leaning

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<v Speaker 2>into my middle aged, suburban dad era and I am excited. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, Budge bro.

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<v Speaker 1>He says.

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<v Speaker 2>My site has a specialist role that I applied for.

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<v Speaker 2>It combines my skills as an analyst with more of

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<v Speaker 2>the operations day to day tasks. I'm excited because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it's a segue into raising through the rinks

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<v Speaker 2>with the company, and the role that I am in

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<v Speaker 2>now is often seen as a really cushy retirement role,

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<v Speaker 2>so people just don't quit it. This new role is

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<v Speaker 2>in the same department, but it's more than project management side. However,

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<v Speaker 2>this would mean a pay cut to about one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and twenty thousand dollars and I wouldn't be eligible to

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<v Speaker 2>for overtime. So just to get back with the numbers,

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<v Speaker 2>he's making one thirty five k base. He can get

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<v Speaker 2>up to one fifty five K if he does overtime.

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<v Speaker 2>This would be going down to one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 2>k base. But here's the thing about the new role.

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<v Speaker 2>The new role is a four day work week, no nights,

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<v Speaker 2>no weekends. Right now, he's doing shift work, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a mix of days and nights, twelve hour shifts and

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<v Speaker 2>about total about fifteen days a month. So he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be going from that to a four day work

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<v Speaker 2>week if he takes this pay cut. He got two

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<v Speaker 2>babies at home and two toddlers at home, Okay, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>the money isn't really the issue, as we are living

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<v Speaker 2>below our means as it is. I have also been

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<v Speaker 2>able to get a lot of schoolwork done during my

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<v Speaker 2>ten to fourteen days off a month, as well as

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<v Speaker 2>when I work nights. I would like to start an

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<v Speaker 2>MBA program in the spring, and the new role would

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<v Speaker 2>cut into that the time that he has okay, ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>I missed this part right now, he's working like fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>days a month, but they are twelve hour shifts, a

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<v Speaker 2>mix of day and nights. Okay, So he's going from

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<v Speaker 2>like an unusual hardcore schedule that's like fewer days a month.

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<v Speaker 2>This would be more of like to you know, all

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<v Speaker 2>day normal work day, but for four days a week.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, what should I do? Should I take this

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<v Speaker 2>new role that would allow me to be home nightly

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<v Speaker 2>with my wife and kids, or wait until I'm done

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<v Speaker 2>with my MBA and apply for another role. Then I'm torn,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, budget.

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<v Speaker 1>Bro sweel on the career side, you know, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>my specialty, but I am a specialist on living life

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm living. No. So here's what I always ask

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<v Speaker 1>myself when like met with like a decision that has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like sometimes competing outcomes, I ask myself, pushing

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<v Speaker 1>all that aside, what is it that I desire with

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<v Speaker 1>my for my life? What is my desired outcome? Who

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<v Speaker 1>do I see myself as? What is it what do

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<v Speaker 1>I want? And so it might be you might say

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<v Speaker 1>something like I want to be a present father. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be you know, I don't know. Like for example,

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<v Speaker 1>when we were kids, my dad got his master's his

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<v Speaker 1>NBA economics or in finance, and then his bachelor's and

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<v Speaker 1>economics or finance. Right, so he really wanted professionally to

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<v Speaker 1>be on the stock market, like you know, But then

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<v Speaker 1>my mom had one girl, two girls, three girls, five girls,

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<v Speaker 1>and he had to make a decision based upon who

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<v Speaker 1>did he actually want to be. Certainly he wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be a stockbroker and make a ton of money, but

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<v Speaker 1>he really also because he didn't have a present father,

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to be a present father, and so instead

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<v Speaker 1>he took finance jobs that were nine to five. Ended

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<v Speaker 1>up being like the CFO for a small nonprofit and

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<v Speaker 1>then the CEO of that small nonprofit, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>pay nearly as much because as nonprofits are opt not

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<v Speaker 1>to do. But my dad used to take us to

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<v Speaker 1>school in the morning, used to pick us up from

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<v Speaker 1>school because he got out at a reasonable time. He

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<v Speaker 1>was super hands on, almost two hands on. I'm like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>daddy can agree, right. But he that decision because he said,

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<v Speaker 1>with all these girls, he wanted to make sure they

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<v Speaker 1>had a strong male figure in his life. And he

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<v Speaker 1>decided that that this desired outcome outweighed the desired outcome

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<v Speaker 1>for more money. So certainly we were because of that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it was sometimes life was a little rough

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<v Speaker 1>because it was expensive raising five kids. So for you, Kevin,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not Kevin, who's this?

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<v Speaker 2>What's this? Doesn't budget bro?

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<v Speaker 1>For you, budget bro, it's not really the job thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to decide what is my ultimate desired outcome

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<v Speaker 1>for my life and then you align work to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't decide what work is and then align your

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<v Speaker 1>life to it. And if you do that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>my dad doesn't regret picking us, you know, the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because as a result, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all like well loved, looked after, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>we were able to have a very present father. And

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<v Speaker 1>the truth is I am the budgetiesta as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of the education my father gave me about personal finance,

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<v Speaker 1>there wouldn't be no budget. Needs to imagine had he

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<v Speaker 1>chosen the stock market and more money, you know, certainly

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<v Speaker 1>I would be a girl with a lot more money,

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<v Speaker 1>but not the knowledge that he imparted on me because

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<v Speaker 1>he was physically here. So that's what I just say,

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<v Speaker 1>is that choose from that place and then align your

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<v Speaker 1>job decisions and back to school with the life and

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<v Speaker 1>how you want to show up as a man. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I love that advice. I agree, I think you know.

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<v Speaker 2>When I got your question, budget bro, I thought I

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<v Speaker 2>went back and reread it because I wanted to see,

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<v Speaker 2>is this something that you have already applied for? Do

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<v Speaker 2>you have an offer? And you just say that you

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<v Speaker 2>have applied? What I like about you know, what I

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<v Speaker 2>would typically say is like wait until you've got an

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<v Speaker 2>option before you consider considerate, Like don't hem in haw,

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't have to figure out what you would do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad that you went ahead and applied for because

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people will just wait and think,

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<v Speaker 2>well should I what if? What if? And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>just apply so you have something to like, something real

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<v Speaker 2>to compare to, like an actual, real life, concrete option

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<v Speaker 2>that you can choose between rather than just the idea.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're getting your MBA. You're going to put in

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<v Speaker 2>your you know, you're going to put your hat in

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<v Speaker 2>the ring for this position if you get it. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>what I will say to you. There's no wrong answer here.

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<v Speaker 2>You can take the position. And I feel like in

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<v Speaker 2>your field you have highly specialized skills. You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get an MBA. You you said that you're you know this,

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<v Speaker 2>this job that you're doing now is more like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>shift work, and it's it sounds to me almost like

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<v Speaker 2>you're a day laborer in the job. I know that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not a day laborer, but just as like a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, as an analogy, like sort of like a

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<v Speaker 2>day laborer, you're paid for your time and for the

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<v Speaker 2>specific skill that you have. And this like more management

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<v Speaker 2>type operations, project management type role that could lead down,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a career path with more avenues and more

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<v Speaker 2>branches on that tree. That makes a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you want to pursue that, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>you should. You're only thirty one. Go try it out,

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<v Speaker 2>and then here's the thing that you have to think about, Like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so what if I don't like it? What if four

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<v Speaker 2>day work weeks? You know, I think I get more

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<v Speaker 2>time with my kids, but actually I preferred only working

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<v Speaker 2>half a month, even though they were really rigorous shifts.

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<v Speaker 2>You get to try it out and then you can compare,

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<v Speaker 2>and I feel like, because of your unique skill set,

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<v Speaker 2>you can always go back to doing that fifteen hour, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen day like more the overtime, the hourly work that

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<v Speaker 2>you were doing before. I don't think you need to.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't mean that if you choose this path it

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<v Speaker 2>has to be the forever path. But I do feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you'd be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take on a new opportunity and try something different and

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<v Speaker 2>get that experience. And like you said, I like that

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking about your career with the company that you're at.

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<v Speaker 2>You love where you work. I mean, you got this

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<v Speaker 2>great foundation for your life. I think you can afford

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<v Speaker 2>to try something a little bit different, and I would

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<v Speaker 2>say if you and again this goes back to what

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<v Speaker 2>I was saying about crossroads and other career pivoters. When

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting an MBA, I don't want you to wait

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<v Speaker 2>until you get that degree to then start looking for

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<v Speaker 2>other opportunities. This could be a great way for you

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<v Speaker 2>to get some project management experience while pursuing your MBA

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<v Speaker 2>and then when you graduate, you don't have to go

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<v Speaker 2>find a job if you want to do project management

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<v Speaker 2>work and start from scratch, like they can say, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got this great MBA, but do you have any

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<v Speaker 2>project managements experience, because that is what very narrow minded

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<v Speaker 2>recruiters and hiring managers will do when they get resumes.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can have that experience, you know, on your resume,

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<v Speaker 2>and that can be not only, you know, a way

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<v Speaker 2>to make you a more attractive candidate, but it can

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<v Speaker 2>also give you an opportunity to make connections with people,

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<v Speaker 2>build relationships through your program, you know, with hiring managers

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<v Speaker 2>recruiters that can serve you down this you know, long

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<v Speaker 2>fruitful career that you're you know, building for yourself. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to give you permission to try it

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<v Speaker 2>out and see what happens. Hopefully your partner, your wife

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<v Speaker 2>agrees with me because she's in this too. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you do, even though you're you know it would

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<v Speaker 2>be a pay cut. I know you acknowledge that. But

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<v Speaker 2>time is something you just can't get back. And having

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<v Speaker 2>just white knuckled my way through seven months without consistent childcare,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't recommend it, but I kept doing it. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why. It's it's hard, but you have to

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<v Speaker 2>like what I think about the time is I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to get an opportunity like this again to be

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<v Speaker 2>around my newborn, my baby, my infant, and my and

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<v Speaker 2>be there for drop off and pick up with my son.

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<v Speaker 2>And although homeboy I just told dad today his dad

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<v Speaker 2>I was like my husband, I was like, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>add an hour to Rio's pickup time because I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying this be at home. He got mommy at four pm,

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<v Speaker 2>but let's try five. But anyway, that time is really great,

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<v Speaker 2>and your kids will change, Your kids will grow, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to need you less and then maybe you can

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<v Speaker 2>change your schedule according to that. But yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 2>what Tiff you said about like building the career around

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<v Speaker 2>the life that you have now and just know that

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<v Speaker 2>it can change. You're in charge of it, so you

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<v Speaker 2>can change, you know, you change your mind down the

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<v Speaker 2>line and make a different choice depending on what your

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<v Speaker 2>family needs and what you need moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>But life goes by in such a flash, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like literally, did you see the Kevi on stage? He

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<v Speaker 1>was like, because I guess his son is going to college.

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<v Speaker 1>He was like the baby, you know, lifts their head,

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<v Speaker 1>holds their bottle, burps, crawls, and then they're in college.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, what the hell don't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in an ongoing argument with Mario with my oldest

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<v Speaker 2>who's four, is you're not going to grow up. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not letting you eat vegetables, have some candy. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not letting you grow up. Here's the candy. You want,

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<v Speaker 2>junk food, Here you go, French fries. You're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get any bigger with these. It works. You're like, no, mommy,

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<v Speaker 2>I have you know, I have to grow up.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I have to get bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I'm like, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You really want to lean in and enjoy, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then yeah, because one day, you know, your kid

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<v Speaker 1>is a teenager and then older and growing, and so no,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that, yeah, I mean, and that's just

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<v Speaker 1>advice for everyone. And this is the advice I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>my heart is to lean into myself, is to determine

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<v Speaker 1>the life that I want and to make everything else

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<v Speaker 1>fit professionally, to make it fit, you know sometimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you have to make some concessions, and that's normal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but I don't want to be led by

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<v Speaker 1>the business and the career and the you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>that that's the only place I make decisions from. I've

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<v Speaker 1>done that, and although it's led to certainly a significant

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<v Speaker 1>amount of success, but also a significant amount of stress.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I always think to myself, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you want success, but how will it meet you healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>happy whole or stressed, like not even able to enjoy it,

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<v Speaker 1>not being able to even physically enjoy it because you're

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<v Speaker 1>in such a bad state. And so, yeah, so we

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<v Speaker 1>wish you well, Budget Bro. You know, Bro, any other

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<v Speaker 1>bros you can write it.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't asked her a little club.

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<v Speaker 1>You and Kevin listen, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, when my bat Budget Bro found out about us

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<v Speaker 2>the same way Kevin did, probably just like being in

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<v Speaker 2>the car while his wife was listening to Brown Ambition Smart.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you guys are listening.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like when guys watched like you know, you're like

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<v Speaker 1>your show with you. I know it was he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was bopping his head to the Taylor Swift concert.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when used to be like, wait, so what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I love and hip hop? That's crazy, but I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't watch. No, I'm just saying. And then work

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<v Speaker 1>where people talked about it, he would trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>like updates like okay, so wait what happened? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>who are you trying to impress? That work?

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<v Speaker 2>So you have to know?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. So all right, y'all, this is the b

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