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Speaker 1: of Vigion pocket Welcome to Patriot It's unfiltered. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the game that the Patriots had with the Bengals.

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Speaker 1: Didn't help obviously the Bengals that he went down? What

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Speaker 1: why am I thinking? I had a confusion. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: I'm rattled. Oh my goddim ran for his life in

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Speaker 1: more for long routes to unbelievable. I've had this argument

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Speaker 1: watching the Patriots play. What does he watch? I'm very consistent.

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Speaker 1: I ignore all off. Yeah, but we don't know what

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Speaker 1: he's missing. I know what he's missing. Oh, you know.

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Speaker 1: They do not score points when he is on the field.

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Speaker 1: That's why people are questioning him. No, it's not that,

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Speaker 1: it's like, it's not that hard to crack the code.

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Speaker 1: It's not why people are questioning him though. The reason

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Speaker 1: why people are questioning him is because he doesn't look

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Speaker 1: pretty playing football. You know why he doesn't look pretty

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Speaker 1: playing football because they don't move said football into the

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Speaker 1: end zone. I get it, and everybody's wrong. This is

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Speaker 1: Patriot's Unfiltered, fueled by Duncan. All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday here at Lets Stadium, and uh, we're

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Speaker 1: still dealing with the aftermath of what happened Monday night. Um.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots announced probably about an hour ago that they

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Speaker 1: had canceled media availability today. It was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: Bill's press conference at eleven forty five, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then later on open locker room, and that's been canceled.

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Speaker 1: There is practice. They are practicing, and we'll have cameras

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Speaker 1: we usually do, and you'll see that at on Patriots

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Speaker 1: dot com later. So they are practicing up in Buffalo. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're having a walkthrough today in meetings, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what's going on there. So it's deuced. It's Paul,

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Speaker 1: in terms of like, you know, talking about the Bills

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think, in my opinion, that's kind

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Speaker 1: today because the Bills weren't having it, and it's like, okay, well,

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Speaker 1: let's let's not be the first to have to talk

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Speaker 1: think the Bills announced that they're having a walkthrough today,

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Speaker 1: and I know, Fred, you said you'd think it's because

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Speaker 1: it's not a terrible idea, but it's it's also what

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Speaker 1: their on their weekly thing. Um, I don't know. I mean,

423
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Speaker 1: we've been getting reports like this all year long. I mean,

424
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Speaker 1: it's it's ever since, you know, whenever. I guess last

425
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Speaker 1: year before, you know, all that stuff. But I don't

426
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Speaker 1: know if there's anything new that he said to somebody.

427
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Speaker 1: You know, it's all speculation, And I mean I didn't

428
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Speaker 1: see I don't do the barstool stuff, Yeah, but I didn't.

429
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Speaker 1: I mean, like Mike said, I've certainly seen a lot

430
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Speaker 1: of different people right things to that. You know, Yeah,

431
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Speaker 1: a lot of those lines. Why we know he's not happy?

432
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Speaker 1: How can he be He wasn't happy at the beginning

433
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Speaker 1: of the season. How can they be happy now? I'm

434
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Speaker 1: not happy? You know? Who is happy? You know, M Paul,

435
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Speaker 1: If you wanted to know the Patriots DVOA um offense

436
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:23,439
Speaker 1: twenty sixth overall, twenty fifth run, twenty fourth pass defensively

437
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Speaker 1: third eighth. That doesn't do points. No Oh, I thought

438
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Speaker 1: DVOA was like an adjusted point total. I thought they

439
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Speaker 1: took out overall points that were set up by the defense.

440
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: I had a different opinion of what DVOA. But I

441
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Speaker 1: mean they're twenty six in yards. I mean just the

442
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 1: standard yard stat. I mean twenty six. You know, it's

443
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Speaker 1: usually that's not a great stat. But I mean they're

444
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Speaker 1: twenty eighth. Even when Cam was here that it wasn't

445
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Speaker 1: that bad, right, I think that's I think that's what

446
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: a lot of people are. Yeah, come and realizes that

447
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty offense was actually more productive than this year.

448
00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,480
Speaker 1: This is similar to that only Cam for touchdowns, right, Yeah, right,

449
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: had that whole twist to play with. But they didn't

450
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Speaker 1: move the ball in twenty twenty either for the most part.

451
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Speaker 1: I mean it's probably better than this. Yeah, So, I

452
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Speaker 1: mean this problems. This problems obviously, And because like I said,

453
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Speaker 1: we're not watching a normal NFL passing offense. You know,

454
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Speaker 1: I think when they run, you know, it looks, it

455
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Speaker 1: looks Okay, it's not great, but but I mean it's

456
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Speaker 1: it's not like what am I watching here, you know.

457
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Speaker 1: I mean I didn't want to say that the I mean,

458
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Speaker 1: as disappointing and bad as the passing game has been,

459
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Speaker 1: like I'm almost a little more disappointed in the run game,

460
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Speaker 1: just because they really needed it and they can have

461
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Speaker 1: to factor in what other teams have to worry about it,

462
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: and they're just like me, they're not worried about the

463
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Speaker 1: passing game. But I go ahead, you know, but go

464
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Speaker 1: throw it. You know, but we're gonna we're not gonna

465
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Speaker 1: let your run you We're not gonna let you kill

466
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Speaker 1: clock and shorten the game. You're gonna have to throw

467
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Speaker 1: the ball, you know. Yeah. I mean I think when

468
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Speaker 1: I look at, you know, the offensive line, like going

469
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Speaker 1: into the season, what they had, like I just I

470
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Speaker 1: would think they could maybe run the ball with on

471
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Speaker 1: when you is pretty good run blocker, you know, Trent

472
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Speaker 1: Brown's a big dude. It's just I mean, it's it's

473
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Speaker 1: one thing to be not productive and it's another thing.

474
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Speaker 1: But it kind of goes to show, like pretty much

475
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Speaker 1: any team in the NFL. If all they have to

476
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Speaker 1: do is worry about the run, they can stop the run.

477
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Speaker 1: They can keep it down. You know, I could just

478
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Speaker 1: load the box. Yeah, you can do it. I guess what.

479
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Speaker 1: To your point, Fred, it's almost like kind of like

480
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Speaker 1: the defense, Like the defense is just waiting to have

481
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Speaker 1: a complimentary offense. The running games kind of waiting for

482
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Speaker 1: a complimentary pass. Absolutely open it up a little bit. Yeah,

483
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Speaker 1: it's yeah, but I can see it. But they haven't

484
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Speaker 1: been great at either one. I agree. I mean there

485
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Speaker 1: are teams that only throw, only run, and they run

486
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Speaker 1: better than that. Yeah, you know Carolina lately? Yeah, I

487
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Speaker 1: mean Caroline, I mean Tennessee for five years. Well, I

488
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Speaker 1: think if we had Derrick Henry, we'd be a little

489
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Speaker 1: better running. We don't. I'd be excited. Oh, if you're

490
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Speaker 1: listening to this show, who love him on? Yeah? I do.

491
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Speaker 1: I think he's the best player. How many times I

492
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 1: say the best player on the team team, except don't

493
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Speaker 1: give him the ball at the end of the game. Correct,

494
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Speaker 1: I might have to go to second best after the

495
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Speaker 1: last couple of all Right. Five five hundred is the

496
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Speaker 1: ace ticket hot Line web radio at Patrice dot com.

497
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Speaker 1: Is the email address. Let's go to the phone. See

498
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Speaker 1: what's on your mind. Uh, Patty's an agaam, what's up, Patty?

499
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Speaker 1: What's going on? Guys? Hey? So, I think, like most

500
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Speaker 1: of the country on Monday night, I was when I

501
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Speaker 1: saw the ambulance come out, I was waiting for him,

502
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Speaker 1: uh hamlet a gill on the gurney and give the

503
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Speaker 1: thumbs up. And just seeing the player's faces like I

504
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 1: wasn't even really listening to the uh, the Joe Buck

505
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Speaker 1: and Troy Igman, and just like seeing Stefan big cry

506
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Speaker 1: and um, we look on these players faces. I was like,

507
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Speaker 1: oh geez. I mean, I know we were all thinking

508
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Speaker 1: the worst here, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, um and

509
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Speaker 1: uh just going on. You know, if they do end

510
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Speaker 1: up playing this week, I'm sure each one of you guys,

511
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: much like myself, has experienced something crazy like a loved one,

512
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Speaker 1: you know, passing or somebody having a heart attack. I mean,

513
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Speaker 1: that's not something you could over in a week. So yeah,

514
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Speaker 1: and I'm not saying this to sound funny or be funny,

515
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: but like, honestly, if they Buffalo lines up, I don't

516
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Speaker 1: know how mentally they're gonna be in the game on Sunday,

517
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Speaker 1: and I mean that could affect them winning or losing,

518
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Speaker 1: but possibly losing the game and ultimately I just hope

519
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Speaker 1: the kids are right and you know, I hope be

520
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,919
Speaker 1: pulled through and h I mean, I've never seen anything

521
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Speaker 1: like that. I mean, assuming they play. This is a

522
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Speaker 1: true test of McDermott's leadership because it's gonna be his

523
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Speaker 1: job to make sure his players are focused because you

524
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Speaker 1: can't go out there, yeah, not focused. I disagree, you're

525
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Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. It's not like he's gonna say all

526
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Speaker 1: of those things. He cannot force these guys to be focused.

527
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Speaker 1: That's up to each individual player to do it for him.

528
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Speaker 1: But he's going to do everything in his power. I'm

529
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Speaker 1: sure he will to help them focus. He's not going

530
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Speaker 1: to sit there and say I don't want to play either, guys,

531
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Speaker 1: but they're making us. He's not gonna do that. Like

532
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Speaker 1: like Stefan Digs on the sideline that night when they

533
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Speaker 1: thought they had to play, was trying to try and

534
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 1: no one was listening, right, So, like, I know that's

535
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: what they're going to do. It's just a matter of

536
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Speaker 1: whether or not they get enough guys that do it. Yeah,

537
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Speaker 1: I mean I think for me, it's I think he's

538
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Speaker 1: going to try, But I think his harder job is

539
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Speaker 1: is taking inventory is his team ready? Is it right?

540
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Speaker 1: And being willing to say I don't think we're ready,

541
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like like I don't think

542
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Speaker 1: he can. No speech is going to get him over it.

543
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: They need to get out there, feel it out. Are

544
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,439
Speaker 1: we just not gonna be able to mentally lock him

545
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Speaker 1: because then you're talking about other injuries. Guys are going

546
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Speaker 1: to go into that game on focus, Like he has

547
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Speaker 1: to have a finger on the pulse of this team

548
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 1: and make a tough decision. So every team we're on

549
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: the league, and obviously it's it's much greater for Buffalo

550
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Speaker 1: into a lesser extent Cincinnati, but the other thirty team

551
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: are all devastated too, Right, So if the Patriots aren't

552
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: able to focus quote unquote and be ready to play

553
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 1: emotionally and physically, is that like a failure by Bill

554
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Speaker 1: Belichick to not get the team ready. I don't know

555
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Speaker 1: if it's a failure, but it's not a failure, but

556
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Speaker 1: that that's Build's a smart guy and he's dealt with.

557
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: But if they are focused, then I think isn't that

558
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Speaker 1: I think. Isn't that a success? I don't. I actually

559
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: don't think this has a lot to do with the coaches.

560
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Speaker 1: I think I think they're gonna be thirty two coaches

561
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Speaker 1: that have a very similar message this week, and it's

562
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: going to be probably a lot of different reactions from

563
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: the players as to how they respond to that. I

564
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: know everyone's different, but I think leadership is going to

565
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 1: be critical this weekend on every team. Yeah, players, players

566
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Speaker 1: and coaches both. Oh. I just like, unless you're telling

567
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: me that there's a guy who's coaching who's gonna say,

568
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: don't worry about it. If you don't want to play,

569
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: just don't don't don't worry about it. We're not going

570
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Speaker 1: to play. Like. I think every coach, if they play,

571
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Speaker 1: is going to get their team ready to play, and

572
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Speaker 1: then it's up to the individual players and the leaders

573
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Speaker 1: among those players, like Diggs was doing on on Monday night,

574
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Speaker 1: to be ready to play. It's not easy. It's not

575
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Speaker 1: like I understand what cousin Patty is saying. It's not

576
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Speaker 1: an easy thing to do, and I'm going to risk

577
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Speaker 1: We talked a lot about this before the show, and

578
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Speaker 1: we all said we probably wouldn't say these kinds of things.

579
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Speaker 1: Our risk coming off is insensitive. It's their job. Yeah,

580
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: and if and if they don't like, I truly respect it.

581
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Speaker 1: If you don't want to play, and you have the

582
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Speaker 1: sort of um, the willingness to say I can't, I

583
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: can't play, then you also have to be willing to

584
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Speaker 1: say okay, then I might have to release you. I

585
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: might have to get somebody else who can play. Like

586
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a cold business. If it happened here

587
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Speaker 1: in our line of in anybody's line of work, we'd

588
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: be expected to play. We'd be expected to work work,

589
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: you know, the next day. It's it's awful, I understand it.

590
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: And it's a cold business. Fred, you brought up the

591
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,360
Speaker 1: greatest example to me, a civil service. Yeah. These guys

592
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Speaker 1: that that risk their lives every day on the fire

593
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Speaker 1: and police force, and they watch their co workers go

594
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Speaker 1: down in the line of duty all the time. And yeah,

595
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: they have time off, but they're expected to ken. You Like,

596
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: the force itself doesn't take the next day off. Maybe

597
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: the guy's partner takes the next day off. But I mean,

598
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: like someone has to protect the next day too, right right,

599
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Speaker 1: Society depends on them now, I know this is this

600
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Speaker 1: is football. I get it's not It's not that it's

601
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: not that important in the brand scheme of things. I

602
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: just feel like if the NFL makes the decision to

603
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Speaker 1: proceed as you know, as expected on Week eighteen, I

604
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: think all thirty two coaches will have a very similar message.

605
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Speaker 1: And now it's up to the individual players to either

606
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 1: follow that match. But you could say it's a good

607
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: sign the leadership if the players are all on board,

608
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: and maybe it's a sign that that locked. You know,

609
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: they don't have the coaches. The coach doesn't have the

610
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: locker room and he wasn't able to do it. But

611
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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna say the same things. Yeah, do

612
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Speaker 1: you know what I mean? In other words, when the

613
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Speaker 1: Denver Broncos didn't show up on Christmas Day, it wasn't

614
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: because Nathaniel Hackett said, don't worry about it, it's Christmas Day.

615
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 1: That he didn't have the locker room and they weren't

616
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Speaker 1: playing hard for him. But we're looking at Mike Tomlin

617
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Speaker 1: right now, like I can't think of a guy I

618
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Speaker 1: would want Mike whose hands I would write my team

619
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Speaker 1: to be in. Then I agree. I thought he was

620
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: incredibly impressive. Now let's just take it. But let's just

621
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Speaker 1: play it out. They played Cleveland this weekend, and maybe

622
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 1: they have a handful of guys that listen to everything

623
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Speaker 1: he said and Jess couldn't muster it up. Yeah is

624
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: that because he's not a good leader? No, it wasn't. No, No,

625
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: I get it. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, because

626
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Speaker 1: I think it can go either way. Yeah, these kinds

627
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Speaker 1: of things. I know a lot of people paid its fans.

628
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 1: I've heard this a lot, like they got no shot now, huh,

629
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Speaker 1: they got no shot. That's gonna be walking into a

630
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: like a buzz a buzz song that the emotion the crowd. Yeah,

631
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Speaker 1: that lasts for about five minutes. Yeah, Like now how

632
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: do the players respond? Are they ready and they emotionally

633
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: invested in the game, because I think there's a good

634
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: chance that they're not. And I think if maybe if

635
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: you had a five percent chance to win the game,

636
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: it might be ten. Now. Yeah, I just think that

637
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: the timing of the year too, just adds a whole

638
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: other layer to it with the playoffs, and I mean

639
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: these are you know, like this is what they play for.

640
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 1: These are the games like had this happened in September.

641
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't think I played this weekend coach week six.

642
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: You know, we're getting to the point now where it's

643
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: a playoff games. You know that the conflict and the

644
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: fact that they're gearing up for the playoffs, to me,

645
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: would probably lead me to believe that Buffalo will find

646
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: a way to get ready to play. Yeah, but I

647
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: don't think it's a guarantee. Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey,

648
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: that's how y'all doing today? I would blow the horns.

649
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: I'm in a residential area, Okay, appreciate that scare or

650
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: anybody a horn when the pizza comes, just fart. Okay,

651
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do that. Paul, I missed the good ole

652
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 1: days with me and youth where we used to argue

653
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: so much and we just go at it. But now

654
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: we're signing stuff, agreeing all the time. And I loved

655
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: that argument with you and Evan yesterday, and I agree

656
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: with you one hundred percent. With Matt, it's not the duchess,

657
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: it's not none of that. That's just part of it.

658
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 1: Like you said, they're just that's some of it. But

659
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: it may thing like if he was. If he was,

660
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: if he was putting up points, no one would care correct,

661
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: And that was the only point I was trying to make. Yeah,

662
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. He's not putting up point. And I'm looking

663
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: at at the game like everybody else, I ain't got

664
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: all twenty two or like Evan does. But I see receivers.

665
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: He missed some running wide over throw to this guys

666
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: ain't devil cup and that's you know, I'm like, oh, well,

667
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: unless he's scared the line or he don't interest in

668
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 1: this offense. He I mean, look at I mean, look

669
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: at the bar. What did he have two hundred and

670
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: two yards passing in the last game. I think it

671
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 1: was a little more than that. Was it two forty?

672
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: But in today's NFL that's two two three. That's low.

673
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: That's like really not good in the today's NFL. And

674
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: we're saying, well, you know, he had a pretty good game.

675
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: But this is my point, you know, and and and

676
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: that's why see people that are saying that he didn't

677
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: play well. The other side is is is talking like

678
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: you just don't like him, You just don't know, you

679
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: know what. I don't like him. I don't like that

680
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 1: we celebrated the fact that we went two for two

681
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Yeah, two two trips in the

682
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:48,000
Speaker 1: red zone, and we're celebrating because normally we go one

683
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: for two or over two, right, right, right, how about

684
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: going three for six in the red zone. That's a

685
00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: good day. Yeah right, you know maybe, but can that y'all?

686
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: One more question though? What if uh? And and I

687
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: get this every day when I come to work, because

688
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 1: like I said, I got a lot of page tators

689
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: because I was the biggest bandwagon. How can the most crap?

690
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: They're thinking that, what is Bill just running back the

691
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: same way and mister Kraft, don't do that and get

692
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: the same same result what you're doing in how would

693
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: you feel in bad bad no office coordinator? Right if

694
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: they ran it back? If they ran it back, no,

695
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: so like they just Bill says, no, no, no, we're

696
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,799
Speaker 1: gonna stick with the status quo, and it's the same

697
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 1: next year. I think I think the house gets cleaned. Yeah,

698
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: because the only way that that would happen is if

699
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: Bill convinced Robert Kraft that this is gonna work, and

700
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: Roberts says, okay, but that's it. And then Paul's right,

701
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work then that. I don't think anyone

702
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 1: wants to see it come down to that. No, no, no,

703
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: this this, it's gonna have to be changes, and I like,

704
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: I think Bill understands that, and I think we've heard,

705
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: we've heard little hints. I think he does too, We've

706
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: heard little hints over the last month or so that

707
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: he knows. I think too. Though his I don't want

708
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: to say his hand is going to be forced, but

709
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: just by the personnel that he has to deal with

710
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: with his tack he needs to tackle. He's got a

711
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: tackle leaven. He needs some wide receiver help. They need

712
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: to be better a wide receiver. They got a bunch

713
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: of free agents a wide receivers. So you know, in

714
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: some ways, I think just by standard personnel decisions, they're

715
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: going to have to make changes to the offense at

716
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: significant places where they kind of need it. So, but

717
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I agree with what you guys said about

718
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 1: the coaching. I mean that's you know, the shadow over

719
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: everything right now, and you just hope they put the

720
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: coaching in place and then go get those players to

721
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,960
Speaker 1: tackle in a receiver they can fit into this new system.

722
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: So let's put a spin on it. Though, because you know,

723
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: can we move around? Can we move on and have

724
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: fun with my move around the space pot it's my

725
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: nonsensical hypotheticals. Okay, So they do make a change because

726
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 1: I agree with Fred. I think there have been some

727
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: breadcrumbs that would lead you know, there's been the last week,

728
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: there was a lot of Bill O'Brien talk, right, you

729
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: can wrap up port resurfaced that story from Burt Breer,

730
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: a lot of Bill O'Brien talk, a lot of smoke.

731
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 1: I think there's going to be changes, right, But let's

732
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: say Bill O'Brien comes in, he's the offensive coordinator and

733
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: Mac looks very similar. Now what do you do now?

734
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 1: You have to look for a quarterback? You think about it, Yeah,

735
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: you're certainly aware of it. In that fourth year draft

736
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: whatever that would be twenty twenty four, I mean, I don't.

737
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: I mean I think that the big question is just

738
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: the option, the fifth year option. You know, does you

739
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: don't pick that up? If he has if he has

740
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: a year come, if he wots at eleven touchdowns, eight picks,

741
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: is that what he's got right now? Yeah? Something about that? Yeah,

742
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: if he comes, if he does that again, you know

743
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 1: he's throwing for three thousand yards and he's on pace

744
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: to throw for less than three thousand yards. Do you

745
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: know how hard that is to do? Like? And I

746
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: know he missed a couple of games, but that's in

747
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,880
Speaker 1: this day and age, you should be over five thousand. Yeah,

748
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,879
Speaker 1: and he's not even he's not. He's not even at

749
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: three thousand yet, right, So I think you'd have to

750
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: You wouldn't pick up the the fifty year option. He'd

751
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: probably be a quarterback entering his fourth season, because I

752
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: don't know how you get an option, you know, an alternative?

753
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: I mean, is Zappi a legitimate consideration? Is that something

754
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: that's waiting in the wings next year? Perfectly he's not

755
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: really playing for his job, but hey, Zappie looked really

756
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 1: good in camp this summer when he got in, pulls

757
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: up Brady. All of a sudden, you're you're watching Zappi

758
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: and training again. I did say he was Brady, so

759
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: don't shake your head at me. I was kind of

760
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: a Paul thing where somebody like mentions two guys in

761
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: the same breath, and he's better. I went all cousin Finney,

762
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: don't shake your head at me. I didn't say that

763
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: I didn't hit what I said yet. No, remember when

764
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 1: Brady came back in year two and Bill was like

765
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: blown away by how much better he wasn't practice. Yeah,

766
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about he's going to be Tom Brady.

767
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking about his year one to year two jump

768
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: on the practice field was apparent to everybody, and your

769
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 1: quarterback struggled in year three. Maybe there is a little

770
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: bit more. I mean, maybe it's my bias that I

771
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 1: don't think much of Bailey's. I don't really either, but

772
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: I mean I am intrigued just to watch him because

773
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: we've talked so much about him after those performances, and

774
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: there's so much like was it that simplified offense? But

775
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I just and I've said this a couple

776
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 1: of times, and I agree with you know, Mac is

777
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: the guy and there's no Zappy, But I just I

778
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: can't deny that when Dappy played, it looked the most

779
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: functional the offenses look this year. And I don't know

780
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: if that's because of who he was playing against the

781
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: second and how they simplified it. Sure, but I think

782
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: he glimpses. I think if you looked at it, it

783
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: really only looked better once Cleveland, Cleveland. It was very

784
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: similar in Green Bay and um well he Troy was

785
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: the over six fourth pound game and they kicked field

786
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: goal after field goal after field goal, like they didn't

787
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: score in that game, and they didn't move the ball. Well.

788
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: The two drives against Chicago and the first half looked short,

789
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: short drives, short drives, and everyone freaked out. And then

790
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: the second half Chicago said we're not going to let

791
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: this cat. Now the Cleveland game, Mac hasn't had a

792
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: game like Zappy did in Cleveland. Yeah, that's the best

793
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: the offense has looked was the Zappie game in Cleveland. Yeah,

794
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 1: And I don't know why that is. I mean, the

795
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: MACA files will tell you that they were calling all

796
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: kinds of different plays and they will put them in

797
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: all kinds of positions to succeed. And they decided to

798
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: have creativity that day and the other sixteen games, well

799
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,120
Speaker 1: fifteen because we didn't play the sixteenth yet they just

800
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: sabotage Mac like Dmember when that was a thing. Yeah, Like,

801
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't know why they won't play action play Action

802
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: the other day and he gets killed by Land and Roberts.

803
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 1: I know, right, it's just like no matter what they've

804
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: kind of done, and I think they had little twists

805
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: and stuff for certain game plans. It's Max has been

806
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: consistently inconsistent all year. And you know, Evan talks about,

807
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: you know, the big time throws which are like twenty one,

808
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: like great twenty one throws a year. How much does

809
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: that impact the game season he makes those throws, but

810
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't even like, I don't know what a big

811
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: time throw is. I don't know what their criteria is.

812
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: But I heard him like rattling off the throws in

813
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 1: the previous game, like the touchdown throw to Kendrick Bourne

814
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: is a big time throw, Like, I don't know about

815
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 1: that one. He rated left like four different throws to board, Yeah,

816
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, one of which was an amazing catch by

817
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: Born by the way on the sideline. I'm just not

818
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm just not enamored of two plays a game that

819
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: you hit. But you just need consistency from the guy.

820
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: And look, I'm I'm on both sides of the fence

821
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: with this one. Like I don't really like his comportment

822
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: and I just think he's been an average quarterback that's

823
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: lost to every good defense that he's played so far,

824
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: and he just has. I know, but because because if

825
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: you can find the time that I said he sucks,

826
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: then go ahead, like run it all you want. I've

827
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: I've not said that. He didn't say it last year,

828
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 1: and I don't say it this year. I just think

829
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: he's average. I think he's okay. I don't think he'll

830
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: ever be. Where I differ from a lot of other

831
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: people is I don't think he'll ever be more than that.

832
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: Some people see something that I don't see in terms

833
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 1: of potential. Yeah, I mean, but I've never said he

834
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: sucks because he doesn't suck. He's not Zach Wick he sucks.

835
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: I don't think he sucks. No, I just I just looks.

836
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: He was an average quarterback last year, and you know,

837
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: I thought this year we would at least get back

838
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 1: to that point, and they they haven't been able to

839
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: And to go back to the point Amy yesterday, It's like,

840
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: no matter how bad an offensive coordinator or your weapons are,

841
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks still find ways to make some plays to

842
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,880
Speaker 1: show you that it's waiting under the surface if you

843
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: could tap it. And I don't really feel like that

844
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 1: with him. Take an average Take an average quarterback, because

845
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: it's not fair to say, like, how do you think

846
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: Josh Allen Patrick Mahomes would look like? Yeah, they would

847
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: look like Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes. I get it.

848
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: That's because of them, Yeah, like by Dalton back in

849
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: the day. But I think a lot of those guys

850
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 1: would look better in this offer. I mean, you could

851
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 1: make an argument and people have that Zappie looked better

852
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: in it. So I just I just think that it's

853
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 1: a big part of his problem is what he the

854
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 1: hand that he was dealta is Yeah, and I'm not

855
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: denying it. Yeah, now what are you gonna do about it?

856
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: You're gonna you started pouting in June and you never stopped. Yeah,

857
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: you never gave it a chance. Brian Island says a

858
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: simple question, assuming the same contract status, who would you

859
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 1: take as the Patriots quarterback today, Mac Jones or Brock Purdy.

860
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 1: I'd take Mac Jones. I'd still take Mac Jones. I

861
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: would probably say Mac Jones. I don't I'm not in

862
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: love with Brock Purty. Um. But but again it's don't

863
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: take all of a team with a good offensive coordinator

864
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: and good like a system. They know who they are.

865
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: They just kind of plug him in. I mean, Mac

866
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 1: is kind of now in a system that doesn't really

867
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: know who they are. I've never figured out who they are,

868
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 1: and that's you know, plug Mac into San Francisco. Do

869
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: you think he'd be better than Purty? I mean probably, Yeah.

870
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't. I do. I don't, I do. I'm the

871
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: same guy. Yeah, see, I don't. Purdy's only six wide.

872
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 1: Just looking up his size, I think some of some

873
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: of my problems with Mac would be problems. I would

874
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: have the same kind of issues with Purdy. And again,

875
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: if my defense dominates and I can get the ball

876
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: to my running backs and do it like the way

877
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: Purdy has, that'll be fine. I think Mac Jones is

878
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 1: better than Brock Purdy. Anthony Right said, do you think

879
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: players would or will react differently if the heart issue

880
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: Hamlin suffered is discovered to be some sort of degenerative

881
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: heart issue or a genetic heart defect then and they

882
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: found out it was not in fact due to the

883
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: impact during the tackle. So, in other words, is it

884
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: easier for players to move on and play if it

885
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: was not due to a hit on a tackle? I

886
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: think for sure. I mean, I think that's what's so

887
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: scary about this one is I mean, I think Ted

888
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: Johnson talked a little bit about this. If you know,

889
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: you're aware of some of like, oh, concussions and you know,

890
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: I could blow my knee out, but I don't. I

891
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 1: don't think it really ever consistently registers with people playing

892
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: of I can just take an ill timed hit and

893
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time, and its lights out. Like,

894
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that that really is something that's really

895
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: been at the forefront of anybody's brain ever. And so

896
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: I think to that point, yeah, you know, like with

897
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 1: Reggie Lewis thing you oh, well he's got you know,

898
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: a heart condition and that's you know, so now it's

899
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: all right, it's not just this random thing that can

900
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: happen to anybody if if, if all the things line

901
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 1: up at the right time. So that's an interesting email.

902
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't really have much confidence at this point.

903
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: Here's so many And Mike happened to my kid. You know,

904
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: they find a hole in the heart, they should look

905
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: for that early, Like, let's do a test for kids

906
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 1: to find make sure that they don't have a hole

907
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: in their heart early. You know, I have a big

908
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,359
Speaker 1: deal hole in the heart, all right, Um, guess what

909
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: Evan's here? This is interesting. Done all right, Evan, what

910
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: do you got? I don't know how many more of

911
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,840
Speaker 1: these we got, So I'm gonna I'm gonna relish in this. Okay,

912
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: So some good news, some bad news out at Patriots practice.

913
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: Big vibe day, though, friends, So we'll get to that,

914
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: and it's like big vibe, Big Vibe day. No Marcus Jones,

915
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: no John U Smith. They're still in concussion protocol, not

916
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: at Patriots practice on Wednesday, but DeVante Parker back at

917
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: Patriots practice, and Jalen Mills was also out there today

918
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: dealing with that growing injury. But yeah, no, no Marcus

919
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: and no John Us still and just reminder, Jack Jones

920
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 1: is on I arm. Jack Jones is on injured reserve. Correct. Um,

921
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: Jake Bailey not there? Not there, Okay, not there, Okay

922
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: at least what we saw. Listen. You know, sometimes a

923
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: specialist during the stadium, sometimes they're on the upper field

924
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: when we're on the lower field, and we try our

925
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: best to use the binoculars to see who's up there,

926
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: but not always able to do that. You know, us

927
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: there last week, wasn't he though? Yes? Yeah, Um, so

928
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you teased it? What do you mean by vibe? Well,

929
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: I thought, today this is our only exposure to the

930
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: players today because we don't have media availability. So I

931
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: did want to see what the mood was that practice.

932
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 1: And we got through the doors there they where they

933
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: let you in on the lower grass field, and we

934
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: were all, you know, waddling in there, and uh, Carl

935
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 1: Davis looked at all of us and said, come on, guys,

936
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: it's Buffalo week. Oh wow. And I was like, all right, well,

937
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: somebody's fired up to play a football game, I guess.

938
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 1: So I do think that there was, um a workman

939
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: like attitude for the most part. Not everybody was as

940
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: fired up as Big Carl. But I did find that

941
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: a little bit interesting that I do too. Someone's ready

942
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: to play a game. And I know that right now

943
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: games seem secondary to what's going on in Buffalo, but

944
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: at the same time that that's where we're at. It's

945
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 1: a great point because it's I mean, all of the

946
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: things aside. It's a playoff game for you know, for

947
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, and if and if if, if,

948
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: if this tragedy didn't happen to themar Hamlin, I mean,

949
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: you'd expect to go out there and it's super intense

950
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: and everybody's locked in, and that like all of a sudden,

951
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: the tension rises around here that all the players talk about. Um,

952
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: it's just it's interesting to me to hear that, you know,

953
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, Fred, with the coaching, like

954
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: you know, is Bill able to you know, help them

955
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,840
Speaker 1: get to the point where not only can you play

956
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 1: the game, but take this as a must win. The

957
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: whole season's on the line. Play. We have to go

958
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 1: beat this team, Like you said, lock in. Yeah, yeah,

959
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: it's tough, but I mean, I mean, I'm I'm I don't.

960
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to say encouraged, because it's like, where

961
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: are we at right now? But what's the mood of

962
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: the media indecisive? Right? I think all of us and

963
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to make us the story because we

964
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: are certainly not the story right now. You wouldn't know

965
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: it looking at Twitter. But go ahead, I all of us,

966
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 1: you know, Fred and I got to get on a

967
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: plane at some point to go to this game, and

968
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,479
Speaker 1: it's like when are we going? Right? Are we going?

969
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 1: When are we going? I still think that there's a

970
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: lot to be decided there still. I know that the

971
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: commissioner said yesterday that the week eighteen schedule is going

972
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: on as scheduled, But did he tell the people in

973
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: Orchard Park that, Because I'm not getting that vibe from

974
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,959
Speaker 1: Buffalo right now. So unless, in my opinion, unless DeMar

975
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: Hamlin has a really encouraging news come out of that

976
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: hospital in Cincinnati, I think it's going to be really

977
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: difficult to ask the Bills to play this game on Sunday,

978
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: And do they want to play this game on Sunday,

979
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: and you know all the other human factors that are

980
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: involved in something like this. Do you have any take

981
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: on the Patriots canceling their media availability today. I was

982
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: listening to the beginning of the show upstairs, and I thought,

983
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 1: I think it was you that said it. They want

984
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo to speak first. Yeah, and I think that that's

985
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: more than fair given the circumstances. And when they scheduled

986
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: media availability this morning, the guy's going to the podium

987
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: or the captain, So it was Matthew Slayter, Devin mccordy,

988
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:48,799
Speaker 1: David Andrews. So they were already preparing to kind of

989
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 1: come out with that sort of leadership front Anyways, Bill

990
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: this morning, Captain's at the podium. I was actually expecting

991
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: them to not open locker room, but I guess because

992
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: of league rules they have to open locker room for availability,

993
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: but now obviously postponed, and I guess the league signed

994
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 1: off on that. So I'm not surprised that they're doing

995
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: this because I don't think the Patriots want to be

996
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,160
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Speaker 1: the mar Hamlet. That's sort of the buildings or the

998
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,520
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Speaker 1: What's up, Joe, Hey, fellas, we're talking about the rock party,

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones, forty nine Ers, comparisons and such. I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to know you guys's opinion if, way back in

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Speaker 1: the day, instead of Mac Jones, we drafted Trey Lance

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Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers got Mac Jones, how that

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Speaker 1: might be different. I was just thinking about that hypothetical

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Speaker 1: and how that might change the offense. Yeah, how do

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Speaker 1: we know? I don't know. I have no idea what

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance right San Francisco doesn't know. Yeah, I did

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Speaker 1: like him, by Lance guy, not as much as Justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields was the guy I really wanted. But again,

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Speaker 1: I go back to when people talk about Lamar coming

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Speaker 1: here potentially in free agency. Don't trust him. Don't trust

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Speaker 1: them at all to know how to run an offense

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Speaker 1: with a guy like that. So I just don't know

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Speaker 1: if Lance. I wrote that in the mail mail back

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Speaker 1: this week with much better terms, but much nicer terms

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Speaker 1: than that, like that's really overhaul year off and you

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Speaker 1: have to have like blocking schemes and you have to

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Speaker 1: have a lot of running back. Yeah, they'd have to

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Speaker 1: really do a lot of different things to do that.

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Speaker 1: Where do you think the forty Niners are with Lance

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Speaker 1: right now? I mean it's it's I mean he had

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Speaker 1: like got hurt his what barely played in COVID. I

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Speaker 1: mean it barely played coming in, didn't play his rookie year.

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Speaker 1: How many games did he play before he got hurt

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Speaker 1: this year? Like, he just hasn't played in like four

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Speaker 1: years and you're already on year three of his contract.

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Speaker 1: It's a good point about at North Dakota stated he

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Speaker 1: didn't even play in the COVID year. I think they

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Speaker 1: had a game or something like that, and he didn't

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Speaker 1: play particularly well actually in the game. So how do

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Speaker 1: you stay the course with him? You just can't get

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Speaker 1: him on the field. It's like at some point I

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Speaker 1: want the other quarterback on the field either. Yeah, Evan,

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Speaker 1: I just want to stay you when you weren't here.

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Speaker 1: Someone brought up Brock Purtty or mac Jones, and I said,

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Speaker 1: mac Jones, yes he did. I just want my heart.

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Speaker 1: I want him to be happy with me sometimes, So

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: Rock Purtty kind of small, ye, Sean said Vancouver, Hey Sean, Hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: how's it going. I wanted to hang put one thing

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Speaker 1: in people's minds in regards to a downside of making

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Speaker 1: the playoff. Let's say everything happens in terms of well,

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Speaker 1: obviously I think they're gonna lose in Buffalo, but let's

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Speaker 1: say Pittsburgh loses the Cleveland and the Jacksonville wins in

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Speaker 1: Winter Division, and yeah, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 1: they make the playoffs. But then is there a time

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Speaker 1: issue in terms of hiring an offensive coordinator? Do they

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Speaker 1: lose out on someone Mike O'Brien, Like, well, what could

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Speaker 1: happen in that sense? I don't think so. I think

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Speaker 1: you could hire O'Brien right now if you wanted to. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're talking about one more week, maybe, you know? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think. But I think Bill Alabama's done, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think yeah. I think The thing with Bill is he

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Speaker 1: wouldn't want to do it while Patricia's here, but he

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Speaker 1: could talk to it. He could actually have it all.

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Speaker 1: Remember that he brought guys back and he was just

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Speaker 1: kind of a supplement for the staff. But I think

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Speaker 1: he could also, like, even if he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: do that, just say, hey, Evan, you know when you're done. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And theoretically you don't think they were waiting for Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they were just waiting for the Sugar Bowl. But even

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Speaker 1: not the Sugar Bowl. What were they in the Cotton

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Speaker 1: Bowl the Sugar Bowl? You know, but even then you

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Speaker 1: could still Yeah, his agent talks to you know, you

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Speaker 1: can get it done. I don't think they're gonna miss out,

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Speaker 1: so for all we know, it's already in place. I

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Speaker 1: think it's hard for teams that like maybe go to

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Speaker 1: like deep in the playoffs and then lose a coordinator

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Speaker 1: and don't realize they're gonna And then by the time

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Speaker 1: week after the Super Bowl, and then a lot of

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Speaker 1: the conversations have kind of we've been through that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you win those Super bowls, man behind the

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Speaker 1: eight ball when it comes to that type of stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that when you lose coaches, generally you know

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Speaker 1: you're gonna lose a coach. I mean, it's I'm not

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Speaker 1: telling you it never happens that it comes out of nowhere,

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Speaker 1: because it does. But I mean, certainly the Patriots could

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Speaker 1: not have been thrown for a loop when Josh McDaniels

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Speaker 1: took the raider's job last year. Right, No, No, So,

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Speaker 1: whether you're in the Super Bowl or not, like you

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Speaker 1: need to like be talking to people. And it feels

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Speaker 1: like a groundsfol right now for Mayo, Like everything that

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Speaker 1: I read about is and Mayo could possibly, Like everybody

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Speaker 1: seems to keep bringing up that Mayo could leave this year,

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Speaker 1: So that just that seems to one to me signs

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Speaker 1: or at least what people are writing seemed like they

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna make Sean Brian writes in rightfully, this

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Speaker 1: has not got as much traction due to Hamlin's issue.

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Speaker 1: And I know Paul commented yesterday, but why has the

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Speaker 1: Week eighteen scheduling not been raised more as an integrity concern?

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Speaker 1: How can they not schedule games that playoff implications, that

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Speaker 1: have playoff implications at the same time they did a

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Speaker 1: bad job. Yeah, this is they usually go to like

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Speaker 1: great lengths to make sure there were no integrity issues.

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Speaker 1: In this year, it seems like they weren't even paying attention. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: says this is a major red flag for integrity and

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Speaker 1: having meaningless games, especially with gambling becoming more commonplace. Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't care about the gambling. I care about who

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Speaker 1: makes the playos where set right. I find it interesting

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Speaker 1: like if Kansas City takes care of business against the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: which I think they will on Saturday, and then the

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Speaker 1: Bills are still in this weird headspace with Damar Hamlin

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Speaker 1: and that like that game all of a sudden, how

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Speaker 1: much does it really mean to Buffalo right on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's just that's the thing about right, It's just kind

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Speaker 1: of hard for me to envision them getting up for

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Speaker 1: this game if that situation unfolds the I don't think

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Speaker 1: they can wait till Saturday night's result though, to be like,

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Speaker 1: actually tomorrow, you guys, we're not playing like you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, I think they got to figure

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Speaker 1: it out pretty quick. No, I mean I think that

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Speaker 1: the uncertainty with the Cincinnati game, I think is more

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Speaker 1: like what would talk like because if they play, Buffalo

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Speaker 1: controls if they play, If they play the two games,

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Speaker 1: all Buffaloes do is win, So that's different. But if

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Speaker 1: they're not going to play that game, and they know

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Speaker 1: they're not going to play it, then they can't get

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Speaker 1: the one seed. Yeah, you know, if Kansas City wins

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Speaker 1: on Saturday, Like that's dumb, then they set that up

1250
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Speaker 1: that way. That was dumb. But I think more egregious

1251
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Speaker 1: is what they've done to Seattle, Detroit and green Bay

1252
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Speaker 1: because they're playing now on Sunday night. If Seattle wins,

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Speaker 1: that's how they make the Seattle needs to win to

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Speaker 1: have a chance to make the playoffs. If Seattle wins,

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Speaker 1: they need Detroit to make to beat green Bay. So

1256
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: if Seattle wins before Detroit even takes the field, they're eliminated.

1257
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 1: So they've they've made that game irrelevant for the Lions,

1258
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: and Seattle needs Detroit to win the game like it's

1259
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,400
Speaker 1: they should have had something to play for because if

1260
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: they played Saturday night, Detroit's playing as hard as they

1261
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 1: can and if they win, Seattle's got a shot, right right,

1262
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: And you guys said yesterday Titans Jags should be Sunday night,

1263
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 1: right because that game, no matter what happens, the winner

1264
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: wins the the AFC South. Now I know the loser,

1265
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: if it's Jacksonville can still make the playoffs. But both

1266
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,440
Speaker 1: sides are going to play to win to get a

1267
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,640
Speaker 1: home game, right Yeah. And it's not a guarantee that

1268
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: if the Jaguars lose that they make the playoffs, so

1269
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: they can't bank on that necessary right And it's not

1270
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: like my point being like, let's just say, for argument's sake,

1271
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots, the Dolphins, and the Steelers all lost and

1272
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: now it's Sunday night. The NFL didn't look at it

1273
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: and say, well, we didn't want to have Jacksonville win

1274
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: lose they were in the playoffs, right because they still

1275
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: would play as hard as they could, because there's a

1276
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 1: huge difference between the four seed and the seventh seed,

1277
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:11,440
Speaker 1: right right, yep uh. Kelly and salt Lake. Listening to

1278
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,959
Speaker 1: the free safety replacement conversation yesterday, the player I thought

1279
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 1: of was John Jones. He had the positionless tweet earlier

1280
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: this year. I think he's the Patriot's best to have

1281
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: a solid free safety without dedicating a high pick or

1282
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 1: a lot of free agent money to the position. I

1283
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 1: think the last part, I think he's a free agent

1284
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 1: this year, but i'd imagine he'd be at a reasonable price. Well,

1285
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: I think that's the thing is I mean, you're not

1286
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,120
Speaker 1: gonna take we're gonna sign you as a free safety.

1287
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna get sand like a corner, which is gonna

1288
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: be more money. And I mean, I don't think you

1289
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: would you resign him at McCary, but at mcquardy money

1290
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: he's the free safety. Yeah, Like I don't think he's

1291
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: playing less, playing much less? No, right, No, that's you

1292
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 1: know he and he actually makes more money now than

1293
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,320
Speaker 1: people think. Like he's signed. His extension that he signed

1294
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 1: was a pretty good extension to play Jonathan Jones when

1295
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: he resigned to stay in New England. It wasn't cheap. Yeah, yeah,

1296
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 1: I have no desire to move John Jones to safety.

1297
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 1: I think you could do it in a pinch, like,

1298
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,120
Speaker 1: but I don't think he's a fall I think the

1299
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: biggest thing is and I know that there are certain

1300
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: guys like Antoine Winfield who does it at a smaller size,

1301
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 1: but when you're only five nine, you don't have the

1302
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: length to really play that position at a high level.

1303
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 1: Good point. And I just also don't really like the

1304
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: idea of taking your best corner and then moving him

1305
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 1: to safety at a basically necessity and then making a

1306
01:05:31,840 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: hole at corner like you're not really changing up your

1307
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: You're you're not making yourself better. Yeah, And I just like,

1308
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: and I don't think. I don't care like what it costs,

1309
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: but it's not a cheap alternative. Yeah, I don't. I

1310
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be a cheap alternative. Now,

1311
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be surprised. I think he's gonna get significant

1312
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: money in free agency if it gets to that point,

1313
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: that to the point where I wouldn't totally rule out

1314
01:05:56,560 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 1: a franchise tag situation with the Patriots, because I think

1315
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: he's gonna get fourteen fifteen million a year anyways, and

1316
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,360
Speaker 1: that tag will be eighteen or something like that, and

1317
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: then you are at least able to get him for

1318
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: one more year and work in the rookie joneses into

1319
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: year two and get those guys to a point in

1320
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: year three where if he does walk, now you have

1321
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:21,760
Speaker 1: the rookie jones is experience and ready to go. First person.

1322
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:23,720
Speaker 1: I heard brought that up. Bring that up me too.

1323
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 1: Franchise tag for Jonathan like possibility, Anthony, I give you credit.

1324
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: Anthony says, Mike, your numbers are wrong. Mike, he says,

1325
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 1: you're wrong. He says the offense scores eighteen points a game.

1326
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: You're leaving out field goals and extra points. They've had

1327
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 1: thirty one field goals made, thirty extra points made, twelve

1328
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns, sixteen rushing touchdowns, which gives them eighteen points.

1329
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: I thought, I thought Mike was subtracting the points that

1330
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:52,960
Speaker 1: were set up by the defense. But maybe I was.

1331
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: I was, But I mean, so as he's saying, like

1332
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: the defensive touchdown extra points because the extra points they

1333
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: get from scoring on offense should count for the offense. Like, well,

1334
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,240
Speaker 1: that's that's what I think Mike was doing. I don't

1335
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: have the numbers, I mean, just so we would trying

1336
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,160
Speaker 1: to figure out how many real true offensive points they

1337
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: scored this year. And I almost thought, and I guess

1338
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: I was wrong. I always thought, like, DVOA did that.

1339
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 1: DVOA does do that. Yeah, yeah, they they factor in

1340
01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns. They factor in field positions. So if the

1341
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,479
Speaker 1: offense gets the ball at the two yard line because

1342
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: the defense defensive points, to me, yeah it generates a

1343
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: strip sack or something like that. Yeah, they will do that.

1344
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: But I mean field goals unless you're saying that they

1345
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:37,560
Speaker 1: started the drive in field goal range because the defense

1346
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,000
Speaker 1: put them there, which they did a number of times,

1347
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: but they stopped. In most cases, you're driving the field

1348
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 1: to get into field goal range, and to me, that's

1349
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,920
Speaker 1: still offensive points. I don't know that would be offensive

1350
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: points if they actually drove. Yeah, and how did you

1351
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: kick a field Like if you take over in the

1352
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 1: thirty five yard line and drive down to the five

1353
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: and kick a field goal, I'll give you offensive points, right,

1354
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the pick threes? Yeah, sure, taking over

1355
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: at the seventeen kicking a field goal from the fourteen, Yeah,

1356
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 1: that's that's defensive points. I guess is they probably have

1357
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 1: like three or four of those at least. Oh yeah, yeah,

1358
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah. Uh the Lions game inclusive. William Phillies back

1359
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,560
Speaker 1: on the phone. What's up, William? No, No, he's not.

1360
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: What happened? My goodness? Oh poor Williams. Did you just

1361
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: hit drop By? I might have. I don't know. I

1362
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: don't think I did, but I might have. It's ringing again,

1363
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 1: and they kept ringing the bell. I think Willa is

1364
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: gonna left Fred here. He's gonna be mad, going to

1365
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 1: give him a what for? Yeah, he's gonna let's see,

1366
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: we'll try it again. William you there, Hey, all right,

1367
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 1: all right, all right, um, how I was too much?

1368
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 1: I want to say um too to the gentleman. Um,

1369
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,040
Speaker 1: I am my favorite Mayor Hamlet. I'll say that correctly

1370
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:56,040
Speaker 1: right tomorrow to morrow. I'm sorry to mor Hamlet. And

1371
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,599
Speaker 1: I'm speaking for everybody in Philadelphi. Man like I am.

1372
01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 1: I'm a long time picture this fan, and I have

1373
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,680
Speaker 1: seen hits, some stuff, but nothing of that man too.

1374
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 1: And we you know, all the things filled up, you

1375
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:11,599
Speaker 1: just pull them f I mean, just everything's okay. Well,

1376
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:16,880
Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to through. What are you

1377
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 1: cleaning the pool? What are you doing right now? Yeah?

1378
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 1: What's going on? There's a lot of clean bread, you

1379
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: know what I read. I ain't cleaning them fool bred.

1380
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm wanting lunch break. And that's them cleaning the streets

1381
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: in one night. I have to do with that, all right, Okay? UM?

1382
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: My question is, isn't it? Isn't it crazy? Picture's gonna

1383
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: filter house? One man? You know, he had every you know,

1384
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: he covered up all the flaws and one night and

1385
01:09:42,720 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: then come to find out, over a course of the

1386
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: period of time, you haven't addressed none of the issues.

1387
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 1: Receiver tight end uh free safety, none of this stuff.

1388
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:53,640
Speaker 1: And now you now you find yourself. You gotta take

1389
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 1: care of all these things. But you didn't do it

1390
01:09:55,240 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 1: when you had the time, you know what I mean,

1391
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: when it was supposed to be addressed. You know what

1392
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, they've got a lot of holes. Yeah,

1393
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: I think they've got some pieces. And last, last, last

1394
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 1: question is Evan. Evan, how do you feel about two

1395
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 1: I guess two players basically in the draft, basically, um,

1396
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison USC and also Jordy Porter from Penn State.

1397
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:21,200
Speaker 1: And I'll leave it at dead. Joan, Okay, thanks, all right, Well,

1398
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:25,519
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison fight on. First of all, absolutely, and second

1399
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 1: of all, I love the quickness with him. He's a

1400
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: separation guy, all right, He's not. He's not one of

1401
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,600
Speaker 1: these like DeVante Parker types. He's somebody that can go

1402
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,040
Speaker 1: out there, run routes and create separation. But he's undersized.

1403
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: He's I think probably going to measure in maybe at

1404
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: six feet if he puts a bunch of socks on

1405
01:10:41,960 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: at the combine and one hundred and eighty pounds, right,

1406
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 1: So he's undersized, but he's got the quickness, he's got

1407
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 1: the separation ability. I think he's a good receiver. I

1408
01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: think this draft in particular, though not as good at

1409
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: the top of the draft at wide receiver as the

1410
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: last couple. So I think you're looking at guys like

1411
01:10:59,560 --> 01:11:02,720
Speaker 1: Jordan Addison, probably like an end of the first round,

1412
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: second round pick last year that might end up being

1413
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: like a top twenty, top twenty five guy this year.

1414
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: Just at a necessity for teams to take receivers, so

1415
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: that I think you need to keep in mind, um

1416
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: a little bit that this is not a draft where

1417
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: there's you know, Jamar Chase and DeVante Smith and Jalen

1418
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: Waddle and Ceedee Lamb and like like just receivers coming

1419
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: out of the wazoo. Uh. This is a little bit

1420
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: of a down year, I would say for wide receivers.

1421
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 1: Joey Porter from Penn State. Haven't seen as much of

1422
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,759
Speaker 1: him cornerback, Um, but I know him for obvious reasons.

1423
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:44,639
Speaker 1: You don't like Joey I like that. Yeah, Joey Porter Jr. Yeah,

1424
01:11:45,160 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: not a good related to Joey Porter Senior. I'm just kidding.

1425
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 1: He's a good player at Penn State, all right. A

1426
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: lot of tackles in the Patriots spot though, feels like

1427
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,560
Speaker 1: that they're gonna be. Like so, if you're watching the

1428
01:11:56,240 --> 01:12:00,880
Speaker 1: National Championship game on Monday night, um, I always get

1429
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: the Ohio State tackle and the Georgia tackle. Confused. Paris

1430
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: Johnson is the Ohio State guy, so Roderick Jones is

1431
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: the is the Georgia guy. I believe left tackle for Georgia.

1432
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: This is not Isaiah Winn. This is a six foot six,

1433
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 1: six foot seven behemoth tackle and he's gonna be a

1434
01:12:18,120 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: locktop twenty pick, maybe higher if he plays well in

1435
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: this game on Monday Night and has a good combine

1436
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: and good pre draft circuit. So he's certainly somebody that's

1437
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: on me and Barth Stradar for the Patriots in the

1438
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,720
Speaker 1: first round. TCU's got some guys two over there too,

1439
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 1: and I'm sure a lot of people will watch Quinton

1440
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: Johnson their receiver and fall in love. Even though he

1441
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,560
Speaker 1: is more of that contested catch, big body type, he's

1442
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: a beast and he's like a man amongst boys in college.

1443
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens with him in the combine though,

1444
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 1: will be interested to see what he runs and if

1445
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: he's in like the four fives, I'm gonna. It's trail

1446
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: on Burke's for me, right, It's like no go. But

1447
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,800
Speaker 1: if he ends up running faster than that, then maybe

1448
01:12:57,840 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 1: we have that conversation Russell and Ark and Sauces. I

1449
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: have an off topic thing that Mike needs to look on.

1450
01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: At Twitter, Adam Vinetarry is so jacked up right now.

1451
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: He missed Derek Henry looked like a baby bird. I know, Fred,

1452
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,479
Speaker 1: you retweeted that yourself. That was I didn't even think

1453
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,160
Speaker 1: it was Adam Vinetary for a second, like, what is

1454
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:16,639
Speaker 1: he there's any naked men around on social media? Fred

1455
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 1: finds that it was part of my first of all,

1456
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: just to I've seen Derrick Henry up close. Nobody makes

1457
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: look small. I don't need to tell me that. Okay,

1458
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 1: that's like one of the biggest going. That's like one

1459
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:29,759
Speaker 1: of the biggest human beings I've ever seen. So careful

1460
01:13:29,800 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: what you say. But as far as kickers go, I've

1461
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: never seen a kicker like him. I mean either, it's

1462
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,839
Speaker 1: like it's almost like he's in his fist career fifty

1463
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:44,559
Speaker 1: kick stretched and I kicked it. Yeah, No, he's he's Jack.

1464
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: My name is Sally fifty. Okay, just got the leopard

1465
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: skin tights on. He finds here on an island with

1466
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: funny stuff. Now there, there's thousands of people right now

1467
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: talk about people. But no, if he haven't seen it yet,

1468
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 1: there's a video. I assume that's his son that he's

1469
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: working out with. I didn't see the sun. I just

1470
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:12,880
Speaker 1: saw him. It's not just him. He's working out with

1471
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 1: a younger guy. That's his son, who's who's a kicker too, right, Yeah,

1472
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,960
Speaker 1: the college kid and his son's jacked up too. But

1473
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: Adam is huge because there was a time like late

1474
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: he started getting a little chubby, the real guy who

1475
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 1: went on steroids after his career, he started getting a

1476
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: little chubby, and I think he just said, Okay, I'm

1477
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 1: gonna stay healthy now that I'm done. And he's just

1478
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: like jacked up. He's much bigger than he was when

1479
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 1: he played. Can we just bring him home, Can we

1480
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:39,600
Speaker 1: like just have like a little we don't not have

1481
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:41,519
Speaker 1: a ceremony or just we just need to bring him

1482
01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:43,800
Speaker 1: back into the family, into the mix. We'll forget about

1483
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:47,000
Speaker 1: those cold years. Water under the bridge, come back, come

1484
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: back to us. Adam just participate in various videos and

1485
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: things like it. Just come back and be parted part

1486
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: of the alumni. Yeah you know, yeah, not really, it

1487
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: doesn't I haven't seen him here since he left. He

1488
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 1: was banging the drum at the Colts game, right right?

1489
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: Was that last year? Well, we don't know what you're

1490
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: talking about in there, but he did spend more time

1491
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: as a cold I know. But we're gonna forget about those.

1492
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,679
Speaker 1: We haven't coming here something. I don't think he's stopped

1493
01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: all forgot what the three Super Bowls that I think

1494
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,439
Speaker 1: he has forgotten that. I don't think he's that who

1495
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: gave it. I'm glad you caught that one ball me personally, Um,

1496
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 1: let's see Daved Bethlehem. Sorry it happened, but the world

1497
01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: doesn't stop ever. Kids must be fed, parents must work

1498
01:15:35,240 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: to feed them. The reflective emotional response is overdone. Okay,

1499
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: so he's he's saying that about That's what the NFL

1500
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 1: is doing. Yeah about Mac. He has had about two

1501
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,200
Speaker 1: point two seconds per snap to throw the ball. Smith

1502
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 1: is a poor blocker and tackle his weakest O line position.

1503
01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: No wonder his yardage is down. Poor personnel choices, bad

1504
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,719
Speaker 1: coaching are primary causes of bad offense. Just this Smith.

1505
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:05,080
Speaker 1: The thing that's funny to me is what people think

1506
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: is like a normal amount of time to throw football,

1507
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: like like two point two seconds. Like that's that's way

1508
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:13,920
Speaker 1: too fast, right, Like he's got more than two point

1509
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,240
Speaker 1: two seconds. Okay, Like I'm not saying he's got a

1510
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 1: lot of time, but I feel like every time I, oh,

1511
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: he's got less than two seconds to throw the No. No,

1512
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: that's that's let's not be bad nice about it, all right,

1513
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 1: let's see Jack from Stowden. Uh. I've been a lifelong

1514
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 1: Patriots fan since the eighties and remember when they first

1515
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: started getting broadcasted U in eighty five during their super run.

1516
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 1: With that, I've seen a lot of bad teams over

1517
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: the years and have seen the team grow into a

1518
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:43,640
Speaker 1: dominant force in the league. What Patriots team for the

1519
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: past does this current team remind you of? For me,

1520
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: this reminds me of the eighty three Pats. Bad quarterback play,

1521
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,360
Speaker 1: key pieces on defense, poor coaching in the middle of

1522
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 1: the pac team. Let me know what you guys think,

1523
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, I'll I'll let the senior members

1524
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: of the show, but I mean I will say that

1525
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: there's some vibes with with eighties teams just because you

1526
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 1: had tip. Sorry, Paul's giving me. I believe he's keeping

1527
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: up communications. He's giving me the giving me the bird.

1528
01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: I hate when it does. Um. But you know, there

1529
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: were some elements of like, hey, you had some really

1530
01:17:14,720 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: good players on the defensive side of the ball, and

1531
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: the offense was a little bit of a I don't know,

1532
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 1: I'm intelligently on the eighty three Patriots. Yeah, I was

1533
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:23,839
Speaker 1: off the top of mine. I was doing the college

1534
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 1: thing back then. I wasn't really I was watching. I

1535
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: just I mean, I can't that was a nondescript season. Um.

1536
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 1: And I can't tell you exactly why. How many bud

1537
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,640
Speaker 1: lights deep were you when you're watching that game? No,

1538
01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: diet Miller, he was already nine at that point, already

1539
01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 1: had four kids. So Zach Taylor fast probably oh oh yeah,

1540
01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 1: oh yeah, every I probably had one or two watching

1541
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,880
Speaker 1: some of those games. That was fifteen drinking in the eighties.

1542
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,800
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor is talking right now in Cincinnati's right there,

1543
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: He's right there. And uh. He said that when he

1544
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: went across the field to talk to Sean McDermott on

1545
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 1: Monday night, that McDermott said that he needs to go

1546
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:07,080
Speaker 1: to the hospital to be with DeMar Hamlin and that

1547
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,560
Speaker 1: he shouldn't be coaching this game right now. And that

1548
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: was sort of when the decision ramped up to call

1549
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: the game. So McDermott said he needed to go to

1550
01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:22,320
Speaker 1: the hospital. Yeah, all right, makes sense. Yeah. Shaddy from

1551
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: Houston writes in I think Purdy does more out of

1552
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 1: structure than mac Jones does, which has been evident with

1553
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: the forty nine is looking better on offense than when

1554
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:32,720
Speaker 1: Jimmy g was playing. Oh I disagree that with that.

1555
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: I also just like the obsession without a structure play

1556
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 1: drives me nuts, Like why would you want that? Because

1557
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: ninety percent of quarterbacking go to Heaven plan on it

1558
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:46,480
Speaker 1: out of structure stuff. To me, that's that's a secondary

1559
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: quarterback trade, right, Like it's it's great to have, like

1560
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: josh Allen Patrick Mahomes can do that all day long,

1561
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, ninety percent of

1562
01:18:55,160 --> 01:18:57,360
Speaker 1: football is still played instructure. So what do you do

1563
01:18:57,479 --> 01:19:00,960
Speaker 1: from the pocket? You're timing your accuracy reads from the pocket.

1564
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: That's still more important all day, every day than running

1565
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:06,960
Speaker 1: around and playing playground side. And I would agree that

1566
01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: Purdy has made some plays out of the pocket. I

1567
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 1: think he's better at that than Mac Jones. But the

1568
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: offense has been good all Yeah, I mean Jimmy G

1569
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: was playing really well. Yeah, when he got hurt, he says,

1570
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: it's also clear to me that a good team. He

1571
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 1: said there was never a chance Shanahan wanted Mac as

1572
01:19:23,080 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 1: he is more or less the worst version of Jimmy G,

1573
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 1: whereas Lance offered a higher upside. Yeah. I mean I

1574
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 1: think he went for the higher upside, no question with

1575
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 1: the Lance. Yeah. Like to me, that is if I

1576
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: can get a guy who can do all the things

1577
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,519
Speaker 1: that I that I have to have, plus this stuff

1578
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,280
Speaker 1: that Evan just talked about, I'll take that. I actually

1579
01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 1: think that the front office was more in Andre Lance

1580
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: and the head coach. And the reason why I say

1581
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: that is just because I think Kyle Shanahan is a

1582
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: little bit in that Belichick school of if I can

1583
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: get the quarterback to just do what the play is

1584
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: designed for me to do, right, you know, this is

1585
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,640
Speaker 1: where we're calling this play, and this is the objective,

1586
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: and this is where the ball is supposed to go.

1587
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 1: And I'll take that guy over the guy that improvises.

1588
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:09,720
Speaker 1: He's looking for the efficiency. See I agree, but for

1589
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:13,439
Speaker 1: a different reason. I think that Shannahan wanted mac Jones too.

1590
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:15,720
Speaker 1: But he might have wanted mac Jones because I just

1591
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: think he felt like he could plug He didn't want

1592
01:20:17,880 --> 01:20:20,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy to be the quarterback, and he wanted to plug

1593
01:20:20,160 --> 01:20:22,640
Speaker 1: in somebody and he knew Lance wasn't going to be

1594
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:26,840
Speaker 1: ready to be plugged in. Yeah, Um, Lee and malvern

1595
01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 1: uk Um wondering as you discussed mac Jones, how many

1596
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 1: pieces away is the offense from having some form of

1597
01:20:34,520 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: identity as we keep seemingly discussing problems that nearly every position.

1598
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: I mean, I think a coordinator, like I think if

1599
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:43,640
Speaker 1: you a well coordinated team, I mean I think the

1600
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,280
Speaker 1: better line play. Yeah, I mean I think that all

1601
01:20:47,320 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 1: that stuff certainly goes hand in hand with it. But

1602
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 1: I have a top three line next year. Yeah. Well,

1603
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 1: I just I think you need to know who you

1604
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,360
Speaker 1: are and what your strengths are. And that's the termined

1605
01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: over the course of a season of you know, when

1606
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: it comes down to God to have it plays, what

1607
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: do you go to? You know, what are your core

1608
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: things that you believe? I don't. I don't see anything

1609
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,000
Speaker 1: in this team and it has less to do with

1610
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 1: who the personnel is, and more with just the overall

1611
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 1: averageness of the offense that we've watched all year long,

1612
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,400
Speaker 1: where they hit a couple of deep shots and then

1613
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: it's three and out, three and out, three and out,

1614
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: all right, to drive a drive? All right? Scoring driving

1615
01:21:16,720 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: three and out? You know, it's just inconsistent and there's

1616
01:21:18,760 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 1: nothing really that you would say, what's the biggest strength

1617
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 1: of this Patriots offense is? Yeah? Right now, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, today,

1618
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: the identity of the offense is inconsistency. There's no doubt.

1619
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:35,439
Speaker 1: They're just inconsistent. Not good, Yeah, no, not inconsistent. Okay, Um, Mike,

1620
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:37,400
Speaker 1: you went on this rant last week. Don't don't bail

1621
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,880
Speaker 1: on me, I think. But they don't have a real

1622
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: identity they like I've been saying that all year. Yeah,

1623
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,720
Speaker 1: like what is it that? What is the Patriots offense? Yeah?

1624
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:48,560
Speaker 1: Like what is it? And under center offense? Is it

1625
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: a West Coast offense? Is it a spread offense? Like

1626
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,600
Speaker 1: where we want? What is it? And I looked up

1627
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 1: to the stat last night actually to look up for

1628
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 1: the bills because I was, you know, starting to turn

1629
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,200
Speaker 1: the page to Buffalo. What if I told you. The

1630
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 1: Patriots are second in the league and explosive plays on offense.

1631
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: They have this set that's pretty much what might. They

1632
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: have the second most twenty plus yard plays in the league.

1633
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: The only team that has more is Kansas City. So

1634
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: it's it's wild that they are truly boom or bus. Now,

1635
01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: bust happens way more than boom. But what the problem

1636
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 1: is is that they can generate these explosives that's but

1637
01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: they can't follow. It's just one play I can't follow, right,

1638
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 1: And it's because there's eleven guys on the other team's

1639
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 1: defense within ten yards of the ball at all times,

1640
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 1: and every once in a while they're gonna beat you.

1641
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 1: And it's not enough to enough to beat you in

1642
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: the game, but enough to generate some explosive plays. But

1643
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: they have these explosive plays where there's these moments where

1644
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, that was a good play. But they're

1645
01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: terrible in the red zone, they're terrible on third down,

1646
01:22:48,320 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: they're situationally, they're awful. So yeah, they can have one

1647
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,320
Speaker 1: or two explosive plays. You know, last week they had

1648
01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:57,920
Speaker 1: you know, three completions of twenty or more yards in

1649
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 1: the air. But then when they get into the red

1650
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: zone or they get to third and six, they can't

1651
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 1: convert it. So that's where these drives are stalling so often.

1652
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: But I find it's so fascinating that and you know, nowadays,

1653
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: especially in football, you hear coaches talk about we gotta

1654
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,880
Speaker 1: limit big plays, we gotta limit big plays, like that's

1655
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: like such a mantra now around the league. And the

1656
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: Patriots are actually pretty good at making big plays, but

1657
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 1: they can't score. They just eliminate all the other places.

1658
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:27,600
Speaker 1: It's just fascinating because all the everything that we know

1659
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 1: about how you score points in this league is that

1660
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:34,440
Speaker 1: if you get an explosive in a drive, it increases

1661
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:37,960
Speaker 1: your chances of scoring on that drive exponentially here but

1662
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 1: not here, Like it's it's so bizarre. It's like one explosive,

1663
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,920
Speaker 1: it's like a seventy five percent chance you're gonna get points.

1664
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,120
Speaker 1: Two explosives, you're in the end zone. Like that's just

1665
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: the I know. You know what's funny too have up

1666
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: about it is like I remember sitting at Mini camp

1667
01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,800
Speaker 1: watching watching Trey Nixon, the one grabbing those passes down

1668
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: the field and being like, wow, look at this, Like

1669
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: I'd have to go back and look. But my guess

1670
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: is when they get those explosives, they score. Like I

1671
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: would argue, that's the only way they can score, because if,

1672
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: like for a while, the only way the score was

1673
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: outside the end. But we talked about this other day,

1674
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 1: like the big game winning drive right against the Raiders,

1675
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: forty yard past forty yard run, right, that's the only

1676
01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: way they score. They're not putting twelve plays together and

1677
01:24:22,160 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: going eighty nine yards like they did Sunday very often.

1678
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,160
Speaker 1: They haven't done that very often. And that's what every

1679
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: single defense in the league is making you beat them

1680
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: by marching right. That's that's the structure of every single defense.

1681
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,320
Speaker 1: And that's why we see so much split safety or

1682
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: too deep safety defense being played right now, is because

1683
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:44,880
Speaker 1: that if we can make you go twelve plays, we're

1684
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: confident and at some point you're gonna stub your toe

1685
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 1: or at some point you're gonna turn it over, at

1686
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 1: some point you're gonna have a negative play. So instead

1687
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 1: of giving it all up in three plays, you're gonna

1688
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: try to make you do it in twelve. And this

1689
01:24:56,040 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: Patriots offense can't do it in twelve, but they it's

1690
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 1: so mark to me that they have these high level

1691
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 1: or just chunk gains if you don't even want to

1692
01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 1: say that they're great plays, but they have these chunk gains,

1693
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 1: but then they can't score. It just doesn't really add up.

1694
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,559
Speaker 1: I just count of Paul, eleven of their twenty eight

1695
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: touchdowns have been twenty and more yards out, so explosive plays.

1696
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: Eleven when they score. But like you, it's a tough

1697
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 1: way to live. Oh yeah, we're living it right now.

1698
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Let's say Ben in Brooklyn rights in. What are the

1699
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: odds the Patriots bring back a fullback next year? And

1700
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,320
Speaker 1: who could it be? Also, what's the latest on Bailey's health.

1701
01:25:36,479 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 1: One thing that slays me is seeing how many playoff

1702
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:42,400
Speaker 1: teams have way better punters. Not to suggest that townsend

1703
01:25:42,479 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: means more than mahomes to Kansas City, but it's just

1704
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 1: immensely frustrating to have a team that not only can't

1705
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,799
Speaker 1: pick up critical first downs but can't flip the field.

1706
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what's going on in Bailey.

1707
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he was back last week, he's not well.

1708
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:00,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't out at practice today. I wonder if like

1709
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: that's it, because how long is that window once you

1710
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,840
Speaker 1: start for twenty one days. This would be the third week,

1711
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: right he was, He's on like thirteen fourteen days of

1712
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: it now yeah another week. Yeah, I don't know. I

1713
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: don't think if if he doesn't get activated for Sunday,

1714
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: I would not expect him to be activated, right Ah. Yeah,

1715
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 1: that's been a major thing. I mean, you know, you

1716
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,560
Speaker 1: look at like the Super Bowl against the Rams, the

1717
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,880
Speaker 1: last one, punting was huge, Like punting can make a

1718
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:30,559
Speaker 1: difference when you're a defense heavy team. Well, that's what's

1719
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 1: crazy about the whole Remember that game, Like, I know

1720
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,400
Speaker 1: Ryan Allen punted in that game, and you're right, like

1721
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,519
Speaker 1: he was great in that guy and Allen and then

1722
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: they then they got rid of him. I don't say

1723
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: has a job right now, so maybe they can bring

1724
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:43,799
Speaker 1: him back. Apparently not there. What I do find interesting

1725
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 1: more to me, the kickoffs have really every time they

1726
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: kick off and I hold my breath and I know

1727
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: they don't kick off often, but every time they I

1728
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: hold my I hold my breath because it's always short

1729
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,400
Speaker 1: of the end zone. And he got all these guys

1730
01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: back there returning. Now that Marcus Jones is, you know

1731
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 1: that can house it at any time, and this team

1732
01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 1: like we saw in Minnesota, they can't afford to give

1733
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,400
Speaker 1: up a kickoff return touchdown because they can't score. So

1734
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 1: it's just it's worrisome. I mean, I find it a

1735
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:18,760
Speaker 1: little bit interesting that they haven't upgraded Tristan Viskayano on

1736
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:21,800
Speaker 1: the practice squad to kicker that has a big leg.

1737
01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,160
Speaker 1: So maybe this the kicker that if they when they

1738
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: elevated Vis gay in, It's not like he's kicking field goals, right, Nick,

1739
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:28,840
Speaker 1: Folks still going to kick the field goals. So at

1740
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: least if you're gonna elevate a guy as a kickoff specialist,

1741
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: at least elevate a guy that can kick it out

1742
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: the back of the end. Don't They still have a

1743
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: million of those guys that can kick anybody you just

1744
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:41,559
Speaker 1: can't run. But it's like the long drive guys. There's

1745
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: a million guys that can't put it through the uprights,

1746
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 1: can't do any directionals, you know. But I just don't

1747
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 1: think I just want to touch back, right, there's gotta

1748
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 1: be a guy out there, right, that's a valuable roster spot, Paul.

1749
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:57,040
Speaker 1: We can, but we're using the roster spot and a

1750
01:27:57,080 --> 01:27:58,920
Speaker 1: guy who can't get it to the end, right, that's

1751
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:01,640
Speaker 1: it's point and every yard for this team, as much

1752
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: as it stinks, every yard matters at this point, and

1753
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,720
Speaker 1: it just it would be so much the pressure of

1754
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:10,360
Speaker 1: the game would just feel a lot better if it

1755
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,639
Speaker 1: was first and ten from the twenty five every single

1756
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,960
Speaker 1: time they kicked off. I mean, Miami good over the

1757
01:28:15,040 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 1: thirty like three times the other day. Yeah, once to

1758
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: the forty in starting position. Yeah, they're eighteenth and starting

1759
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 1: position defensively not good. Yeah, on twenty eight point seven.

1760
01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 1: Offense is second overall, though they're they're usually out on

1761
01:28:29,439 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: their own thirty point five to get and to get

1762
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 1: some help. I don't know what he's said. Paul is

1763
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: from Monroe, North Carolina. This goes back to the offensive points,

1764
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,080
Speaker 1: like what should count? No, I guess he says. Offense

1765
01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: gets six points for a touchdown. Offense gets two points

1766
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 1: for two point play. Special teams gets one point for

1767
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: an extra point. You're only getting. I don't buy that.

1768
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: You don't even get. Yeah, I don't get if you

1769
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,080
Speaker 1: score an offensive touchdown and you get a touch and

1770
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:01,479
Speaker 1: you get seven it's as says, special teams gets three

1771
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 1: points for field goals. That's not true. Not true. Just

1772
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: because you got to get him in position. Oh, this

1773
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,679
Speaker 1: is what you get for doing research. I know friends

1774
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: like I have a lot of no no friends like,

1775
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:16,120
Speaker 1: oh do you have in your paper? And I'm going

1776
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,720
Speaker 1: there's no way I got this, and he actually did.

1777
01:29:19,880 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: Actually there are field goals too. I'm like, I just

1778
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,680
Speaker 1: was counting the touchdowns like it's about tuddies, Like that's it.

1779
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: Like you can't have your special teams walk onto the

1780
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 1: field and kick an extra point if your offense doesn't

1781
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:34,479
Speaker 1: score a touchdown or somebody or somebody gets a touchdown, right, sorry,

1782
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 1: special teams just you're gonna have to be included in

1783
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:41,200
Speaker 1: the offensive side. Um Todd and Rochester said, I thought

1784
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 1: this article and headline said a lot about the Patriots

1785
01:29:43,640 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 1: players in organization. He said, the headline is Patriots players

1786
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,679
Speaker 1: in tom Brady are top donors for Damar Hamlin toy Drive.

1787
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 1: Oh it's very nice. So that'd be nice. I think

1788
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:55,160
Speaker 1: he's if it's churching seven million, now, oh yeah, it

1789
01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 1: is it worth six? Yeah? Well you can do a

1790
01:29:57,200 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 1: lot of money. That's another off air one safe and

1791
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: that love that you're donating don't need to know about it, right,

1792
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,040
Speaker 1: mister Kraft putting the eighteen high out there. I appreciate

1793
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 1: the nice Jewish and you got you gotta get. Can

1794
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,439
Speaker 1: you explain that is that? Uh? Yeah, I think that's

1795
01:30:10,439 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 1: because Lean always says that it's multiple eighteen. Eighteen means life,

1796
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,559
Speaker 1: and like that's like the kai means life and that's eighteen,

1797
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 1: and then you give multiples of eighteen. So like when

1798
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: I was a kid going to your bar mitzvah, Yeah,

1799
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,759
Speaker 1: just an acquaintance gets eighteen dollars for the bar mitzva.

1800
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,680
Speaker 1: Your friend gets thirty six, right, Like that's you know,

1801
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: that's the way that it goes. And when you have

1802
01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:37,719
Speaker 1: learned me another thing today, Yeah, I got Jonathan Jones

1803
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 1: as a franchise tag, and now I know it's multie.

1804
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:42,880
Speaker 1: Now I knew that the eighteen was life, but the

1805
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 1: bar mitz of a thing to me, no regular regular

1806
01:30:45,280 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: acquaintance eighteen bucks, a close friend thirty six. I just

1807
01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: learned that this year I never went to a barmut

1808
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 1: like that. When my wife, I've got a lot of

1809
01:30:52,120 --> 01:30:53,640
Speaker 1: a lot of Jewish friends, she went to a lot

1810
01:30:53,680 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: and Tyson this year had a bar mitz of this

1811
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,800
Speaker 1: first one was Brayton's actually Brayton Salk and she's like, yeah,

1812
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 1: so we'll just give him eighteen bucks, like eighteen bucks.

1813
01:31:00,760 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, that sounds oddly specific, but a wonderful number.

1814
01:31:03,560 --> 01:31:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, eighteen bucks perfect a Matthew Slater or eighteen yeah, yeah,

1815
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 1: there you go. And then if you have people that

1816
01:31:09,520 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 1: are rich, like mister Kraft, then you get into that right. Right,

1817
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:15,759
Speaker 1: it was a Bills player, so it was eighteen thousand,

1818
01:31:15,880 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 1: but we're a Patriot play six. Right, that's the rules.

1819
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: That's the rules. I'm sorry my grandparents apologize for having

1820
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:25,280
Speaker 1: that's wealthy. They might give you eighteen hundred on your

1821
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 1: bar Mitzvah, you know stuff like that. Cool, yeah and

1822
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,599
Speaker 1: eighty sure, Like do we have to go from eighteen

1823
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 1: to eighteen hundred screwing up the whole thing? Sure? I mean,

1824
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:37,479
Speaker 1: do we go from eighteen to eighteen hundred? I can't

1825
01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: afford that? Second? Jewish weddings too. It's not just bar

1826
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: Mitzva's Jewish weddings. A lot of people will give eighteen,

1827
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 1: like eighteen dollars for a wedding. No, no multiples of eighteen. Yeah. Uh,

1828
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: that's Bradley writes in or is it Brady, I don't know,

1829
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 1: he says when mentioning the chunk plays. I think our

1830
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 1: biggest problem is continuing after we create one. If we

1831
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,400
Speaker 1: don't score in the chunk play, I feel like we

1832
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: always slow down to get the next play in and

1833
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:09,040
Speaker 1: continue the momentum. Most times we end up with a

1834
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: pre snap penalty or a slow to get the next

1835
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: play in and we take a time out to snap

1836
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:17,320
Speaker 1: our momentum. There's the identity right there. Good job, that's

1837
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: that's one of the best emails we've gotten on the offense.

1838
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 1: That's what's happened. Ye, that's twenty times they've thrown the

1839
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 1: ball downfield. Patricia couldn't get the play in on the

1840
01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 1: next play. Like, we're also excited. I think. I think

1841
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:31,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, we get another play

1842
01:32:31,640 --> 01:32:33,599
Speaker 1: the end of the year, people won't be satisfied unless

1843
01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 1: there's a firing squad to just take him out at

1844
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:39,320
Speaker 1: the end of the season. I uh, the militia not

1845
01:32:39,479 --> 01:32:42,280
Speaker 1: to take care of it. Just some poor guy. I mean,

1846
01:32:42,360 --> 01:32:45,519
Speaker 1: he left Detroit literally getting death threats. I mean, like

1847
01:32:45,680 --> 01:32:48,400
Speaker 1: he said, I had no need for this. I wasn't.

1848
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't being serious, you know. And now he comes

1849
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:53,599
Speaker 1: here and like they're just all over him. So there's

1850
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:57,400
Speaker 1: another update on Damar Hamlin from the Bills. Remains in

1851
01:32:57,439 --> 01:33:00,599
Speaker 1: the ICU in critical condition, with signs of improvement yesterday

1852
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 1: and overnight. He's expected to remain under intensive care as

1853
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,640
Speaker 1: his healthcare team continues to monitor and treat him. So

1854
01:33:06,760 --> 01:33:10,719
Speaker 1: we are seeing some glimpses of hope. I heard today

1855
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:13,679
Speaker 1: they flipped him onto his chest so that to take

1856
01:33:13,840 --> 01:33:15,880
Speaker 1: pressure off his line. That's the COVID thing that they

1857
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: learned during COVID. They were flipping people on their chests

1858
01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:19,840
Speaker 1: to like take I hadn't seen the long one. I

1859
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,719
Speaker 1: did see that. Someone reported that the doctors were hoping

1860
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:28,120
Speaker 1: to see some signs overnight and they got they got those, Yeah,

1861
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 1: some some positive signs if they would not get into specifics.

1862
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:34,320
Speaker 1: And I actually think it's been pretty good the way.

1863
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 1: We haven't gotten a lot of specifics, like don't every

1864
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 1: two seconds, let's not have this one be the one

1865
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: that you know, you got a rush to have something

1866
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: out there because you talk to some family friend who

1867
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,760
Speaker 1: may or may not have had you know, permission from

1868
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 1: the family to talk. You know, just this is good.

1869
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,040
Speaker 1: The bills are giving you some updates. I know that

1870
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: some of the reporters are there giving you some updates too, Yeah,

1871
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,720
Speaker 1: Tyler and Georgia. Let's say the Jets decide that Zach

1872
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Willon is not just the right fit for them, and

1873
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: they call up the Patriots and offer trade of Wilson

1874
01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:07,760
Speaker 1: for Jones. Would you consider No? No, no, I'm not

1875
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 1: advocate'so Evan's just holding his head. I'm not advocate. If

1876
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: you ask me before the draft, I might have. I

1877
01:34:16,680 --> 01:34:18,840
Speaker 1: not might have. I would have a different answer, but

1878
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 1: now we know. No, no, no, Now I think he's broken. Yeah,

1879
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm not interested in putting him back together. I'm not advocable.

1880
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,599
Speaker 1: If Bill had him, I think it'd be different. Yeah,

1881
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:30,800
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating that we get rid of Mac, but

1882
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 1: just a hypothetical. I'm curious if you think a fresh

1883
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:36,679
Speaker 1: start for Wilson might have a higher upside than where

1884
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: we are when where we presently stand, he can't hit

1885
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:43,080
Speaker 1: the side of the barn with the football, like this

1886
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: isn't this isn't Like he's broken, like like you know,

1887
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:50,479
Speaker 1: he makes bad decisions and he's not accurate, Like there's

1888
01:34:50,479 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a functional accuracy to good quarterbacks right where even guys

1889
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 1: like Josh Allen who aren't always pinpoint accurate. They can

1890
01:34:57,040 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 1: control of football when they throw it. Zack Wilson can't

1891
01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: control the football. He doesn't know where it's going. There's

1892
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: been so many few players and I can't even think

1893
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,080
Speaker 1: of another one off the top of my head. I

1894
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: assume there are others, but that he's thrown made throws

1895
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,880
Speaker 1: that I'm like, what are you doing, like like laying

1896
01:35:10,920 --> 01:35:13,600
Speaker 1: the down like that one against us? Like to me,

1897
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:17,519
Speaker 1: it's more about that than and his off field behavior

1898
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 1: than anything said. Everything you Evan said, it's right right,

1899
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:21,960
Speaker 1: but you know, on top of all that, I'm far

1900
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: more concerned with the person, like he just doesn't exude

1901
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:32,080
Speaker 1: leadership in any way, takes no responsibility, Like I think

1902
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 1: he's broken. Yeah, I don't want you want to protect

1903
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,600
Speaker 1: the moms of New England. You don't want to bring that.

1904
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I see like a little you know Mac has sometimes

1905
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,439
Speaker 1: where his shorter throws are a little bit off right,

1906
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:43,439
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit too far this by that way, whatever,

1907
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:45,519
Speaker 1: totally fair. It's not because he can't make them, and

1908
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: he's not because he can't make him and he's not

1909
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: airmailing at ten feet over the guy's head, like Zach Wilson's.

1910
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:51,880
Speaker 1: He's a guy opened in the flat and it ends

1911
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 1: up in the first row like that. That's what's so

1912
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: hard for him. And I think I made this point

1913
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:57,599
Speaker 1: last week, but it's just like, you know, usually guys

1914
01:35:57,640 --> 01:35:59,240
Speaker 1: that flame out like that, like you could see them

1915
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:01,280
Speaker 1: going to be a back up and maybe they find

1916
01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:02,880
Speaker 1: a career that way. But with a guy who's that

1917
01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 1: boom or bust, it's like, no one's going to trust

1918
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:07,280
Speaker 1: you to be the backup because you're going to come

1919
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:11,600
Speaker 1: in and probably make things worse. You know, let's go

1920
01:36:11,760 --> 01:36:14,200
Speaker 1: to the ace ticket outline. Todd's in North Carolina. I

1921
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,679
Speaker 1: hate Todd. Hey, guys, I just got a quick question

1922
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,200
Speaker 1: for those of us, and it's probably just a few

1923
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:21,840
Speaker 1: of us that are kind of wrong headed, but for

1924
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:24,720
Speaker 1: those of us that are not confident in Bills still

1925
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: having his fastball, what do we need to see in

1926
01:36:27,200 --> 01:36:29,000
Speaker 1: this last game and in the off season to kind

1927
01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 1: of give us a little bit of Okay, he's still

1928
01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: got it. We're we're not you know, we're not in

1929
01:36:34,720 --> 01:36:36,600
Speaker 1: the right. I mean, I would just I don't know

1930
01:36:36,640 --> 01:36:38,400
Speaker 1: about this last game. I think there's a lot going

1931
01:36:38,479 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: on and I mean that we can talk about it.

1932
01:36:40,680 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it goes to, you know, what

1933
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,680
Speaker 1: we've all said, just acknowledging that it wasn't good enough,

1934
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,360
Speaker 1: acknowledging what we've all seen, that it's below the bar

1935
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:51,040
Speaker 1: of acceptability, and that major changes have to be done,

1936
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,920
Speaker 1: and that the offense has to be restructured coaching wise

1937
01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: and reinforce personnel wise. And I think if he does

1938
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,680
Speaker 1: those things, then you know, you'll you'll believe him and

1939
01:36:59,720 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: you'll trust in him. But I think if he comes

1940
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: out and tries to sell you something that goes against

1941
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: what you've been watching for sixteen weeks now, then I

1942
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: think people are gonna have a big problem with it.

1943
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:12,080
Speaker 1: Do you think, you know, like there's so many elements

1944
01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 1: of you know, his job that you know have to improve.

1945
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,200
Speaker 1: But one of the areas that we think has gotten

1946
01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: better in the last couple of years was drafting. Like

1947
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,920
Speaker 1: they had that stretch where it just wasn't good, and lately,

1948
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, they've picked up some players like the last

1949
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 1: two the first two picks last year or this year.

1950
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,280
Speaker 1: The jury's out, you know, Thort and it's strange, but

1951
01:37:32,360 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: the other guys are contributed last year the guys contributed.

1952
01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,360
Speaker 1: Is there any coincidence that, like it started to get

1953
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:43,280
Speaker 1: better when Cassario left? Now I'm being serious, you know,

1954
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 1: I think the final straw for Casario is Nickel Arry

1955
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: once he made the Nikularry pick. And I'm not like

1956
01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:55,839
Speaker 1: I think that that pick was heavily driven by Casario.

1957
01:37:55,960 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 1: I think that they really liked nikkil Harry coming out

1958
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,280
Speaker 1: of the draft. I think they were looking for that

1959
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,679
Speaker 1: prototypical X receiver that could be a DeVante Parker type

1960
01:38:04,720 --> 01:38:08,000
Speaker 1: for them on the outside, and they really liked him.

1961
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:11,720
Speaker 1: And I think when nat pick was made, they had

1962
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: a philosophical change of we need to get athletes like

1963
01:38:15,120 --> 01:38:18,840
Speaker 1: we can't. It's not about necessarily just about the you know,

1964
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:21,479
Speaker 1: where does he fit in all this kind of football jargon.

1965
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: We need to get guys who are athletes. And they

1966
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 1: come right back in the twenty twenty draft and Kyle

1967
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:28,879
Speaker 1: Dugger was one of the best athletes at the combine

1968
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: Josh uj great athlete. You know, um go right on

1969
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:33,960
Speaker 1: down the line. In the last couple of years. This

1970
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 1: past draft, they you know, strange, good athlete for offensive line.

1971
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:40,559
Speaker 1: Tae Kwon obviously as the forty Marcus Jones, great athlete.

1972
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,719
Speaker 1: So I think that that was really a big focus

1973
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: for them. Why, Like was that a Bill decision or

1974
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: was that like Matt grow Elliott Wolf like who only

1975
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: they know? Yeah, right, Like for me, it's Bill. I

1976
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: think Bill had a slump and he's been better than

1977
01:38:56,520 --> 01:38:59,680
Speaker 1: the last few drafts. Other people would say, well, Cassario,

1978
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: that's the line of d market. They're not wrong. That's

1979
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:06,320
Speaker 1: when Cassario left. Everything Evan said is right. Yeah, Cassario's

1980
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:09,920
Speaker 1: was the last was with Bill when they picked Harry. Yeah,

1981
01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,040
Speaker 1: on that last draft. The next draft they got a

1982
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 1: couple of players that can play. Maybe it was Cassario's fault.

1983
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:16,720
Speaker 1: So I don't know. So I guess what I'm trying

1984
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 1: to get at is Okay, So there's so many areas

1985
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 1: that have to improve, but maybe drafting isn't one we

1986
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: need to worry as much about as we were. You know,

1987
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't need to be a homer, but I don't

1988
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 1: necessarily think there's so many areas that need to be

1989
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 1: improved with this team. Like I think that they have

1990
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 1: a lot of talent on defense, young talent too, on defense.

1991
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 1: I mean, and we're not talking about everybody being like

1992
01:39:41,200 --> 01:39:43,160
Speaker 1: up there with like Devin mccordy is. You know, they

1993
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: have Kyle Dugger and Ucha and Marcus Jones now hopefully

1994
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,320
Speaker 1: is a guy that can can step up and be

1995
01:39:49,439 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: a bigger player next year. I think Jawan Bentley is

1996
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:53,640
Speaker 1: right in the prime of his career and does a

1997
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:58,320
Speaker 1: decent job at his job, and bar Moore right, offensively,

1998
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,559
Speaker 1: they needed to tackle at least one and they still

1999
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 1: are chasing that golden goose of the number one receiver

2000
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,639
Speaker 1: and an a coordinator. But that's not personnel. Yeah, I think.

2001
01:40:10,040 --> 01:40:13,720
Speaker 1: I think if they if they check those boxes, if

2002
01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:17,320
Speaker 1: they get a tackle in the first round, maybe they

2003
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 1: find an upgrade in the veteran market at wide receiver

2004
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: and they bring Bill O'Brien back next year. I expect

2005
01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:26,240
Speaker 1: it to be better. I don't know if this team

2006
01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,439
Speaker 1: is like the team that to me that the roster

2007
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,719
Speaker 1: that had tons of holes everywhere was like the twenty

2008
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: twenty roster, right, and now we've had a couple of

2009
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,720
Speaker 1: decent draft classes. They bring in the free agents in

2010
01:40:35,800 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: the in the spending spree, and I think that there

2011
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 1: are some more holes that have been filled. So I

2012
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,519
Speaker 1: don't know if they haven't if they're that far away.

2013
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: I agree with your point. I think that the the

2014
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,639
Speaker 1: only place I would I am a little bit concerned.

2015
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:50,080
Speaker 1: It's just that I feel like they need the really

2016
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: important positions like they, like you said, the wide receiver.

2017
01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:55,560
Speaker 1: That's because they ignore those those important positions at the

2018
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,080
Speaker 1: top of the draft and they draft the guard in

2019
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:00,280
Speaker 1: the first round when they needed a number one. And

2020
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 1: that's why we think. Yeah, but it's like, you know,

2021
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:06,800
Speaker 1: he's developed nice, but I'd love to have him be

2022
01:41:06,840 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: a three down player. I'd love to have him be

2023
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:10,559
Speaker 1: a guy that's you know, man in the opposite side

2024
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 1: is June On the whole time. But I think the

2025
01:41:12,200 --> 01:41:15,280
Speaker 1: three down this, I think that's Bill like he wants

2026
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 1: Gilanni Tavia on first down, and I don't necessarily think

2027
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: in other systems. And I'm not saying that that's necessarily

2028
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,680
Speaker 1: wrong because I think that there's there's some merit to that.

2029
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: You know, this last game against Miami, Jilanni Divide did

2030
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:28,960
Speaker 1: a great job setting the edge of the defense. So

2031
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that there's no merit to it. But

2032
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 1: I think in other places josh Uja is a three

2033
01:41:33,320 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 1: down player. I don't know about that because coming out

2034
01:41:36,240 --> 01:41:38,560
Speaker 1: of Don Brown didn't think so yeah, his coach in

2035
01:41:38,640 --> 01:41:41,160
Speaker 1: Michigan didn't think he could play but Michigan. But Michigan

2036
01:41:41,280 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 1: is one of those programs that has a hundred of

2037
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: these guys on their roster, right, So yeah, you know,

2038
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:49,720
Speaker 1: I just I think that just like Don Brown to

2039
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,000
Speaker 1: a degree, Bill looks at josh Uja and he has

2040
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,120
Speaker 1: a skill set, and then he looks at Gilanni Divi

2041
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,720
Speaker 1: and he has a skill set. I don't necessarily think

2042
01:41:57,760 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 1: that a lot of a defensive coordinators always look at

2043
01:42:02,280 --> 01:42:05,759
Speaker 1: like why you know that in that sort of box

2044
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: right where like this guy is this and this guy

2045
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:10,760
Speaker 1: is that. Whereas I think a lot of dcs would

2046
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,680
Speaker 1: look at it and say, josh you Jay is one

2047
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 1: of our eleven best players on our roster. We're going

2048
01:42:15,000 --> 01:42:17,600
Speaker 1: to play him seventy five percent of the snaps. I

2049
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,800
Speaker 1: think Bill is more this is what he's good at,

2050
01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:22,720
Speaker 1: and I'm going to put him in a position to

2051
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: succeed and to use better at the run. So That's

2052
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,519
Speaker 1: where I'm going to put him. But it puts you

2053
01:42:28,560 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage when you have to substitute like that.

2054
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,599
Speaker 1: You know, when you can't have a three down player

2055
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:35,880
Speaker 1: at that position. I just I think to your original

2056
01:42:35,960 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: question of fact, I think the draft is just continues

2057
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:40,920
Speaker 1: to be absolutely critical, and I think it it's, you know,

2058
01:42:41,040 --> 01:42:42,960
Speaker 1: after last year, they I think they had some hits.

2059
01:42:43,000 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 1: They still have some questions, but I think you need

2060
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:46,560
Speaker 1: to you need to continue to hit on guys. You

2061
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: need to hit on guys like Marcus Jones. You need to,

2062
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, you really need to hit on at least

2063
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:52,760
Speaker 1: a couple of these pieces. I feel way out. Yeah,

2064
01:42:52,880 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 1: it is because you can't fix it every year by

2065
01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:57,880
Speaker 1: just signing guys. I mean you could do that once

2066
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,479
Speaker 1: in a while. And I'm not talking about twenty twenty one.

2067
01:43:00,960 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like Evan said, if you get a tackle

2068
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:05,800
Speaker 1: in the first round and then maybe you get a

2069
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 1: solid veteran wide receiver, yeah that works because whatever, you're

2070
01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:12,719
Speaker 1: not going to get a solid veteran cornerback, wide receiver, tackle,

2071
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,760
Speaker 1: running back, tight end, and like because even if, like

2072
01:43:15,880 --> 01:43:17,880
Speaker 1: in free agency, even if you think the guy's a

2073
01:43:17,960 --> 01:43:21,800
Speaker 1: mid range talent guy, you're paying top dollar at that

2074
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 1: range for no matter what the level is. In free agent,

2075
01:43:25,960 --> 01:43:29,120
Speaker 1: you're paying top dollar for that left. Like that's how

2076
01:43:29,160 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: you get in a situation that they're in now where

2077
01:43:31,439 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 1: the numbers aren't outrageous, but this particular year, based on compensation,

2078
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:40,280
Speaker 1: they're receiving cores are the most expensive in the league

2079
01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 1: right now. Would anybody argue that? I mean, Evan went

2080
01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 1: down everybody and said there's not one team that Jacobe

2081
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: Myers would be the number one receiver for, and you'd

2082
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 1: be hard pressed to argue with them, even me. Yeah, right,

2083
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,679
Speaker 1: thank you. So that's how you get in that situation

2084
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 1: is you give not like ninety five million dollars to

2085
01:44:02,240 --> 01:44:05,560
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk or whatever she's signed for you forget right, No,

2086
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 1: but you give way more money to Nelson Agolor and

2087
01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:11,640
Speaker 1: ken Rick Bourne than they're worth right now. It might

2088
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 1: not have approached anything with Jacksonville pay Christian Kirk, but

2089
01:44:15,200 --> 01:44:17,160
Speaker 1: they're not as good a play or either. Yeah, so

2090
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:22,519
Speaker 1: you're you're you're, Yeah, compensation is high. Same thing with

2091
01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:25,800
Speaker 1: with Henry and Smith in the place for the veteran market.

2092
01:44:25,880 --> 01:44:28,639
Speaker 1: And I also wouldn't roll out corner because we've seen

2093
01:44:28,720 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 1: him do that before with Gilmore and to leave and Reevers.

2094
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,839
Speaker 1: So I don't know if there's one of those corners

2095
01:44:34,240 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: on this market. Just looking at the available free agents,

2096
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 1: but that's that position and wide receiver, I think are

2097
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: the two positions that in a trade, if you can

2098
01:44:43,439 --> 01:44:45,760
Speaker 1: swing big in a trade, that's where you have to

2099
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:48,360
Speaker 1: go with it. Because I do trust them to degree

2100
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,840
Speaker 1: to get a tackle that can play in the draft, right,

2101
01:44:51,880 --> 01:44:54,960
Speaker 1: and I do trust them to a degree to upgrade

2102
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 1: some of the other marginal positions that we're not talking

2103
01:44:57,520 --> 01:45:01,639
Speaker 1: about premium positions, but in terms of corner and wide receiver,

2104
01:45:02,280 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: I think you have to pay a premium nowadays in

2105
01:45:05,080 --> 01:45:09,040
Speaker 1: this league for those positions. And I that's where I

2106
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 1: would be looking. I wouldn't be looking in the free agency.

2107
01:45:11,320 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 1: We should be saying right now, Nikil Harry is our

2108
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:17,679
Speaker 1: number one guy. That's what. Yeah, in the perfect world,

2109
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:19,680
Speaker 1: that's what. But you missed, I mean you miss but

2110
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:21,640
Speaker 1: when he let me ask, you know, they missed on

2111
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:24,200
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, Like it doesn't in the first round,

2112
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:26,840
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't cripple you know, four years later. But

2113
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 1: would they have even paid him, Like if if Nikila

2114
01:45:29,200 --> 01:45:31,920
Speaker 1: Harry was a J. Brown, right and we switched those

2115
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: two like the Titans, right, Like, I probably think that

2116
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: that trade was like Bill was like chef. They made it,

2117
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 1: and I like Trailing Brooks more than Evan does, but

2118
01:45:42,360 --> 01:45:44,360
Speaker 1: like he's not as good as say J Brown. Yeah,

2119
01:45:44,560 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: like that's a that's a downgrade. Um, so hold on,

2120
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,720
Speaker 1: like okay, just just to wrap this whole thing up, like,

2121
01:45:51,880 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 1: because I think Mike and Evan were a little bit

2122
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,400
Speaker 1: differing on the holes the amount of holes, And I

2123
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: think it comes down to for me anyway perspective, Like

2124
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:05,960
Speaker 1: I think that I wouldn't argue with anything either one

2125
01:46:05,960 --> 01:46:08,120
Speaker 1: of you said when you're analyzing the situation. I think

2126
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:11,240
Speaker 1: it comes down to what you think. So Evan says,

2127
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of really talented young

2128
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: defensive players. We're not going to argue about this right

2129
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,400
Speaker 1: now because we've argued about this a million tens. I

2130
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,160
Speaker 1: don't think the defense is anywhere near as good as

2131
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,920
Speaker 1: Evan does. I think that when they play a good quarterback,

2132
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:25,400
Speaker 1: they're in trouble, just like everybody else is. Okay, So

2133
01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: what you think of those young guys to me is

2134
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,200
Speaker 1: different for me, for Mike, for Evan who knows, and

2135
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,200
Speaker 1: it's obvious on offense where we all differ. Evan thinks

2136
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback is fine. I don't, so I think you

2137
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,240
Speaker 1: do have holes, and to Mike's point, I would more

2138
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:46,400
Speaker 1: agree with Mike. I think with Evan because it's the

2139
01:46:46,479 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 1: holes that are hard to fill and you have important

2140
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:52,519
Speaker 1: holes to fill, because I don't think if you've if

2141
01:46:52,560 --> 01:46:55,800
Speaker 1: your defense is what Evan says, you can get by

2142
01:46:55,880 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: if you improve your offense. Right, So, but it ain't

2143
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 1: gonna be easy to improve just unless you guys just

2144
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:04,320
Speaker 1: think gets all. Bill O'Brien, So do you think that

2145
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 1: if this defense, I don't want to like say, like

2146
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:09,880
Speaker 1: for the top five, top ten, whatever, but if this

2147
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:13,519
Speaker 1: defense had an offense that was also pulling its weight

2148
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:17,679
Speaker 1: this year, they wouldn't be a playoff caliber you know, contender.

2149
01:47:18,280 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 1: Playoff contender. Yeah, that's what they are. Bowl contender. No, okay,

2150
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:25,800
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get to a level I haven't been

2151
01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:27,680
Speaker 1: at since Brady. I'm not just say I don't know

2152
01:47:27,720 --> 01:47:29,439
Speaker 1: if they would be a super Bowl contender either. I

2153
01:47:29,720 --> 01:47:32,919
Speaker 1: don't think this defense could be Kansas City or Buffalo

2154
01:47:33,120 --> 01:47:36,680
Speaker 1: or Cincinnati when it counts. I don't, okay, now, if

2155
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 1: your offense improves dramatically, but then it could. I will

2156
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:43,160
Speaker 1: say though, I think that if you add a number

2157
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:46,200
Speaker 1: one corner, it makes the whole defense better. As good

2158
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 1: as it is, it makes it even better. That's why

2159
01:47:48,479 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: I agree with michells are important. But but then I

2160
01:47:51,520 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: think Evn brings up a good point about the way

2161
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:58,400
Speaker 1: Bills filled that recently. Maybe they can't do it like that. Yeah,

2162
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 1: maybe he can find a guy like Steel, So maybe

2163
01:48:01,479 --> 01:48:07,800
Speaker 1: you're not unhappy in the walles. That's like swing. A

2164
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: trade for the offense is kind of trade, yeah, because

2165
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:15,000
Speaker 1: that's why that guy allows you to play man coverage, right,

2166
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: And if you're going to play these great quarterbacks, ultimately

2167
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 1: you have to you have to man up every once

2168
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 1: in a while. And this team right now doesn't have

2169
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: that number one corner. And I don't even think they

2170
01:48:25,040 --> 01:48:27,160
Speaker 1: really had it with JC either, to be honest with you,

2171
01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 1: which is why I think they let them walk. And

2172
01:48:29,920 --> 01:48:33,519
Speaker 1: they haven't had it in skillmore. And that's just the

2173
01:48:33,560 --> 01:48:36,200
Speaker 1: biggest difference is that the mahomes Is and the Allens

2174
01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 1: and these guys, they eventually will pick a part zone.

2175
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,120
Speaker 1: They might not. You might be able to catch them

2176
01:48:41,160 --> 01:48:43,160
Speaker 1: with some spins and stuff like that at first, but

2177
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 1: once they kind of settle in and figure out what

2178
01:48:45,320 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 1: it is that you're doing in terms of the disguising.

2179
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:50,360
Speaker 1: They sit there and they pick you apart, and that's

2180
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:51,960
Speaker 1: the difference. I mean, they're not going to get a

2181
01:48:52,000 --> 01:48:53,760
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, But I mean you see the impact that

2182
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:55,400
Speaker 1: he has with the Jets just as a rookie. I

2183
01:48:55,439 --> 01:48:58,280
Speaker 1: mean it's, you know, but hard. So you couldn't get

2184
01:48:58,280 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: a Sauce Gardner. You could have gotten Tariquo Will Yeah. No,

2185
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 1: I he's had a pretty good rookie here. Now. I

2186
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 1: don't know, don't don't start. And I'm not telling you

2187
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:10,120
Speaker 1: I haven't watched a ton of Seattle. I know he

2188
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 1: has a lot of interceptions. I'm not telling you he's

2189
01:49:12,040 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 1: played that well. But it's like Diggs had a million

2190
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: interceptions he wasn't playing. I have no respect for zone corners.

2191
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:24,439
Speaker 1: I love his l in Wisconsin says, come on, Paul,

2192
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:26,439
Speaker 1: you think that if Bill had Zach Wilson that he

2193
01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't be broken. Really, he's sure done a great job

2194
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:31,080
Speaker 1: coaching up Mac Jones. Now, I don't know if this

2195
01:49:31,160 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 1: is sarcastic or not. I think it was to see

2196
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,800
Speaker 1: Evan's mad at you now but not Salman writes in

2197
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:43,640
Speaker 1: the Zach Wilson discussion got me thinking generally, why is

2198
01:49:43,640 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 1: it so hard for college quarterbacks to find success in

2199
01:49:46,120 --> 01:49:49,080
Speaker 1: the NFL? Zach Wilson looked so good at BYU and

2200
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,519
Speaker 1: did not look good at b YU, and now he

2201
01:49:51,560 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 1: couldn't throw a paper wad into a waist bin accurately.

2202
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,800
Speaker 1: I thought that maybe it has to do with going

2203
01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:58,920
Speaker 1: from shotgun in college to mostly in the center in

2204
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,479
Speaker 1: the NFL. But what of the reasons are there that

2205
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 1: it's hard for these quarterbacks to succeed? Go watch the

2206
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,040
Speaker 1: B A B y U tape. Go watch it. He

2207
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:11,800
Speaker 1: has a The amount of time in space that he

2208
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 1: has in the pocket is absolutely absurd. There's nobody within

2209
01:50:16,680 --> 01:50:18,759
Speaker 1: ten yards of him when he's standing there. Make it throws.

2210
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:21,960
Speaker 1: He's basically throwing at BYU like he didn't like Alabama,

2211
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: basically throwing at b YU stop like like he like

2212
01:50:26,320 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: he would did at his pro day right like like

2213
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:31,439
Speaker 1: he's thrown against air. Okay, kind of like he's playing

2214
01:50:31,439 --> 01:50:35,400
Speaker 1: at Alabama and it's nothing like Alabama. There was a

2215
01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:37,439
Speaker 1: guy from Georgia who was actually on the field at

2216
01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:41,160
Speaker 1: one of those times Alabama. Alabama was playing in the

2217
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 1: SEC in the National Championship Game. Okay, that's where I

2218
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:48,679
Speaker 1: would say it's the quality of competition that, by my goodness, yeah,

2219
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: you know anything else. And there's a ton of guys

2220
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:54,759
Speaker 1: in all positions, by the way, that are just college players.

2221
01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:56,880
Speaker 1: I think the bigger questions Bill will tell you college

2222
01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:59,240
Speaker 1: is it's so hard to play defense. So Bill will

2223
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:03,759
Speaker 1: tell you the college offense is totally different. It's a gimmick.

2224
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 1: He has no respect for it, a lot of it.

2225
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 1: And I will admit that this is I'm putting a

2226
01:51:10,840 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 1: point in Paul's column here, thank you, And I will

2227
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:15,160
Speaker 1: admit that this is a problem with mac Jones. A

2228
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: lot of it is that these quarterbacks in college never

2229
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: play under pressure, right because they have all day to

2230
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,400
Speaker 1: throw and they got these clean pockets that they're working

2231
01:51:23,479 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: from constantly. And in the NFL, no matter if you

2232
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 1: have the best offensive line in the league or not,

2233
01:51:28,479 --> 01:51:31,439
Speaker 1: you're still going to face pressure at a higher rate

2234
01:51:31,640 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 1: and at a more impactful rate, where you have guys

2235
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 1: that are chasing you, that can actually chase you, are

2236
01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:38,840
Speaker 1: actually going to get you down to that point. Though,

2237
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: do you think there's anything We've talked about this a

2238
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:43,200
Speaker 1: little bit that Matt came in and I thought, you know,

2239
01:51:43,320 --> 01:51:45,080
Speaker 1: right from the get go, look kind of comfortable in

2240
01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 1: the pocket. I mean, definitely more than I saw from

2241
01:51:47,160 --> 01:51:49,639
Speaker 1: Stidham in his rookie year. I mean, do you think

2242
01:51:49,640 --> 01:51:51,040
Speaker 1: that there's an element of like, you don't know what

2243
01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:52,560
Speaker 1: you don't know? And he kind of got here and

2244
01:51:52,640 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 1: he just kind of assumed, like you don't really get pressured,

2245
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,720
Speaker 1: and then his things kind of have progressed. He realizes, oh,

2246
01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:00,559
Speaker 1: there's some days where my offense of line are going

2247
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:03,360
Speaker 1: to totally cut coverages and I'm gonna, you know, cut

2248
01:52:03,439 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 1: rushes and I'm gonna get at Auburn and didn't have

2249
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, not that he was playing at By. Yeah.

2250
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean, not to make it a comparison between those

2251
01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: just generally, maybe maybe Stidham was more used to being

2252
01:52:13,160 --> 01:52:16,200
Speaker 1: but I also think that Stidham is more athletic and

2253
01:52:16,360 --> 01:52:18,439
Speaker 1: ran around as part of the week. I just think

2254
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: I wasn't trying to make a Stidham call. I'm just

2255
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:22,439
Speaker 1: saying a point of comparison between the two guys. I

2256
01:52:22,479 --> 01:52:25,639
Speaker 1: just think in college, even when you are under pressure

2257
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,719
Speaker 1: a lot of the time and I maybe not necessarily

2258
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:30,320
Speaker 1: for Mac, but a lot of the time for a

2259
01:52:30,360 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: guy like Zach Wilson, he's the best athlete on the field,

2260
01:52:32,840 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 1: so these defensive ends are chasing him, but they can't

2261
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: actually catch him because he's a better athlete than they are.

2262
01:52:38,360 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 1: So now he's getting out of it. Now he catch

2263
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:43,280
Speaker 1: right now, they catch you. Now, Matthew Judon's chasing you

2264
01:52:43,360 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 1: down instead of some guy from BYU that's gonna be

2265
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:49,360
Speaker 1: a car salesman into a week and all of a sudden,

2266
01:52:49,479 --> 01:52:52,400
Speaker 1: you know, now we're we're in a totally different ball game,

2267
01:52:52,640 --> 01:52:56,479
Speaker 1: same thing. I don't know BYU. They might go into there.

2268
01:52:56,640 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: And this is why I said I made the point.

2269
01:52:58,680 --> 01:53:01,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of positions that it's like quarterbacks of

2270
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:03,559
Speaker 1: the high profile and they go in the first round,

2271
01:53:03,600 --> 01:53:06,439
Speaker 1: they get overdrafted because they quarterbacks, and then they don't

2272
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:09,080
Speaker 1: pan out, so you remember them all. But I mean,

2273
01:53:09,120 --> 01:53:11,800
Speaker 1: I could give you a laundry list of guys, you know,

2274
01:53:11,920 --> 01:53:17,679
Speaker 1: like John Ross, like to Whatevan just said, Bean faster

2275
01:53:17,800 --> 01:53:20,519
Speaker 1: than everybody else on the field. Then he got into

2276
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,559
Speaker 1: the NFL, and maybe he was still technically faster than everybody,

2277
01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: but not by as much. Right, everybody else could run too,

2278
01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:28,519
Speaker 1: And now what do you have fallen back on? He

2279
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: didn't have the talent. Yeah, I mean, this is the problem.

2280
01:53:31,360 --> 01:53:34,320
Speaker 1: The fear that I have with Taekwon, right is like, Okay,

2281
01:53:34,360 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 1: you guys went to a guy from another team on packs.

2282
01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:41,200
Speaker 1: But it's ultimately the hardest part of evaluating quarterbacks from

2283
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: the draft and saying that this is what I project

2284
01:53:43,479 --> 01:53:45,599
Speaker 1: this guy to be in the NFL is how they're

2285
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 1: going to handle pressure and how they're going to handle

2286
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 1: suboptimal environment that they're playing in, because you just there's

2287
01:53:52,640 --> 01:53:56,720
Speaker 1: nothing translatable at the college level because either they're in

2288
01:53:56,840 --> 01:53:59,320
Speaker 1: clean pockets all day or they're a better athlete than

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Speaker 1: everybody on field. So it's just so difficult to sit

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Speaker 1: there and say, Okay, this is what they're gonna look

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Speaker 1: like in the pros because it's not a pro pocket

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Speaker 1: and it's not pro routes and it's not pro coverage.

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Speaker 1: So like, how do you make that translation? Is often

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Speaker 1: what decides whether or not this guy's any good. That's

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Speaker 1: why I think a lot of teams, well, that's why

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Speaker 1: the microcosm of the of the Senior Bowl is important

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Speaker 1: because they get to finally line them up in pro

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Speaker 1: schemes at practice and yeah, you know, unfortunately a lot

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Speaker 1: of the big quarterbacks don't. Don't partakes, right, But I

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01:54:32,640 --> 01:54:34,520
Speaker 1: think that a lot of the time, that's why teams

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01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: put so much stock in the College Football Playoff in

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Speaker 1: those games because okay, now we get to see you know,

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Speaker 1: um the high state quarterback of them of course planking

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Speaker 1: out Stroud. We get to see Stroud against an elite

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Speaker 1: defense on college and what he does in this moment,

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Speaker 1: in these big moments, and he played out of his mind.

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Speaker 1: So he's probably going to be a top two pick

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01:54:54,720 --> 01:54:58,280
Speaker 1: in April, you know, um Mac and the college football

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01:54:58,320 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 1: Playoff also played out of his mind, and so he

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Speaker 1: ends up being a first round pick. And I think

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Speaker 1: that those games, Trevor Lawrence, you know, in those situations,

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Speaker 1: played great for the most part. So that's what you

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Speaker 1: have to go buy. But even still, Alabama's defense is

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Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in college football every year,

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Speaker 1: and it's still not in NFL defense. I saw something interesting,

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Speaker 1: you know about the college you know, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: the differences in the college game, and you know, those

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01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,760
Speaker 1: two college football playoffs on Saturday night, they both went

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01:55:24,880 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 1: down to a lot of situational football at the end, right,

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01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of two minute drives and whatnot, and

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Speaker 1: I didn't see them all as I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you heard. I was at a wedding and missed everything,

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01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: So I didn't get to do my thing, Mike, that

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Speaker 1: I like to do so much. You know, you got

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Speaker 1: to take a time out here, spike at there, get

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Speaker 1: out of bounds? Why are you getting out of bounce

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01:55:41,640 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So I saw someone was quoting, I

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01:55:46,360 --> 01:55:48,480
Speaker 1: think it was Burt Breer was quote you know, I

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01:55:48,520 --> 01:55:51,240
Speaker 1: had talked to an NFL executive or something, and one

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Speaker 1: of the things that he said, which I thought, I

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Speaker 1: never really thought of it that way. Is a lot

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Speaker 1: of colleges, a lot of college coaches struggle with the

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Speaker 1: end of the game situations because they ain't in them. Yeah,

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01:56:02,800 --> 01:56:06,480
Speaker 1: the NFL every week comes down to that. So these

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Speaker 1: guys are trained in it. They do it all the

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Speaker 1: time in the NFL. To Evans point, we have to

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Speaker 1: wait for the college football playoffs to see if CJ.

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Speaker 1: Stroud can play against good teams because he plays in

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Speaker 1: the Big Ten. And I'm sorry, the Big Ten is

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Speaker 1: not the SEC. It's good, but it ain't the SEC,

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01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:25,000
Speaker 1: you know, And those teams they're not used to having

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01:56:25,080 --> 01:56:28,760
Speaker 1: close games. They might have Muster is no. Sorry, I'm sorry, Meg,

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01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,960
Speaker 1: Sorry Meg. I mean, Ohio State plays Michigan every year.

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01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,600
Speaker 1: That's the one game that they play in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: That is I guess maybe Penn State. I guess if

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01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: they play Penn State. They played they played some good teams,

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01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, but they don't all come down to

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Speaker 1: the last possession when you're Ohio State or Michigan. You know,

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01:56:45,320 --> 01:56:48,840
Speaker 1: like most of the time you're beating Iowa and Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. CJ. Strouds a baller. No, No,

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Speaker 1: I played out of his mind. It's a whole separate

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01:56:53,640 --> 01:56:55,720
Speaker 1: It's a whole separate thing. I like CJ. Stroud too.

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Speaker 1: I like Bryce Young too. I mean I would worry

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01:56:57,880 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 1: about Bryce young size. He's small, yeah, but um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I would have the same kind of concerns that

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Speaker 1: I did with Tua. What are Cassara is gonna do

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01:57:05,560 --> 01:57:10,120
Speaker 1: with Bryce Young? It's gotta take him right, thank him. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go. I think he's gotta take him all right.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots on Filtered,

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