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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. Miles Simmons across

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Speaker 1: the table from DeMarco far It is Wednesday, June fifth, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: it is four days from my birthday, four days from

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Speaker 1: your birthday. That's right. I'm gonna tell the people howold

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Speaker 1: you're gonna Hell no, i'm am though. They can look

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Speaker 1: it up. Good look up on wicked Google. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: not telling you crap. Go ahead. Yeah, it's Wednesday, June fifth.

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Speaker 1: It is just after ninety five am Pacific time here

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Speaker 1: inegre Hills, California, and we are just about to wrap

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Speaker 1: up now the Rams offseason program. You have two more OTAs,

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Speaker 1: three days of mandatory mini camp next week and then

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Speaker 1: that's it before training camp agains. Yeah, you leave the

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Speaker 1: players to their own devices, so I'm really looking forward

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Speaker 1: to Mini camp. OTAs have been great. Um, the offseason

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Speaker 1: program has gone well from our eyes. From our perspective,

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Speaker 1: the only guy we haven't really seen that much is

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Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, but I think we kind of knew that

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Speaker 1: going in. But I mean seeing Cooper Cup, seeing Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff his progressions and how he's starting to become a

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Speaker 1: better practice player. Year three under Sean mcvayh is starting

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Speaker 1: out well, so can't wait for many camp and then

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Speaker 1: obviously training camps right around the corner. Yeah, for sure,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see what happens, I

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Speaker 1: think in this particular process because right now you have

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Speaker 1: and we can just start with Todd Gurley off the bat,

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Speaker 1: because I think is interesting about this situation right now

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Speaker 1: is you have basically conflicting reports from the same media

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Speaker 1: outlet that basically you're like one person is saying, and

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Speaker 1: we'll use names. Steve Wish reported earlier last week that

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Speaker 1: there's not really that much concern about the knee, and

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Speaker 1: I'll read what I think is the most important quote

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Speaker 1: from that as we do our segment called reading. But

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Speaker 1: what he said basically was Okay, the Rams have had

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Speaker 1: a plan for Todd Gurley. Todd Gurley has also been

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Speaker 1: working with Travelle Gains. He is somebody who is a

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Speaker 1: trainer that is well known. He has worked with different

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Speaker 1: guys around the league, different running backs, and so Wish

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Speaker 1: talk to Treville Gains, and so I will quote Steve

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Speaker 1: Wish here by saying Gains also said, is there any

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Speaker 1: lingering effect from the ACL injury that Todd had when

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Speaker 1: he was at the University of Georgia. Yes, that is

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Speaker 1: common with all athletes, but it is not an everyday thing. Now.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything medical that the RAMS or anyone is

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Speaker 1: worrying about that's going to diminish Todd Gurley? Absolutely not. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So there's that, right, But then you've also now had

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Speaker 1: Jay Glazer come out and talk about something in his

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Speaker 1: mail bag. The RAMS have concerns, they are this there that.

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Speaker 1: Then you had Ian Rappaport report the other day that

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Speaker 1: the Rams are not anticipating Todd Gurley to be the

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Speaker 1: bell cow back anymore. So am I crazy or are

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Speaker 1: these things in conflict? I think the truth is somewhere

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Speaker 1: to be some concern. It's it's you're one of your

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Speaker 1: So there is obviously some concern, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's dire. I don't think his career is over. I

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Speaker 1: don't think his days of a bell cow back are over.

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Speaker 1: I think that there is a concern. But it's what

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Speaker 1: You can't say that, so true, no doubt that. That

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Speaker 1: eventually you're going to circle back around, as in, you

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Speaker 1: know you were dead right or dead wrong. Now. Most

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Speaker 1: who cares what these guys have to say. But there

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Speaker 1: is concern about Todd's knee. I'm sure Todd is concerned

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Speaker 1: about his knee, and you're concerned about usage. The last

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Speaker 1: of the spear on the offense. Sean McVay makes no

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Speaker 1: to Todd, Gurley in space a lot, you know, So

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Speaker 1: Because if Todd Gurley is healthy, he's clearly the best

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Speaker 1: That's about the football team. But I remember Marshall Fault.

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Speaker 1: Every year, you lose five pounds, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 1: It's better for you to lose weight as a football player.

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Speaker 1: at a high level. I think the veteran guys proved that.

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Speaker 1: of your head when he made those flashplays, those big

427
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,240
Speaker 1: hits in the backfield. Okay, But when you're facing Seattle

428
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 1: and it's you know, shoe to shoe in the middle

429
00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,640
Speaker 1: and it's all run, you still have to find ways

430
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 1: to make plays. Think of jj Watt. Jj Watt makes

431
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 1: plays no matter what scheme you're running at him. If

432
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,560
Speaker 1: it's true run, he is putting his nose in, extending

433
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,440
Speaker 1: guys back, making plays, throwing guys, making plays when it's passed,

434
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 1: he's in on the passer. Same stuff for Fowler. You've

435
00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,600
Speaker 1: got to be just as tough against the run as

436
00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 1: you are against the pass to be special, to be transcendent. Yeah, yeah,

437
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: and I think he has that potential. As you just

438
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,359
Speaker 1: brought up, this is a guy that was drafted number

439
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: three overall, yeah, in the draft out of Florida. Now

440
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320
Speaker 1: it's interesting, though, listening to him talk about his time

441
00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, because it almost seems like they drafted somebody

442
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 1: and didn't necessarily know the best way of using him. Yeah,

443
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 1: and then they didn't adapt their system to fit his

444
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: skill set. I heard, and I did a little research

445
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 1: talking to people about that. I heard it was a personal,

446
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 1: a personality thing. Okay. As then he butted heads with

447
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, who was a strict disciplinarian. So when you

448
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: mentioned the Coughlin wasn't even there in fifteen sixteen. But

449
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 1: when you mentioned arrests and off the fields of stuff,

450
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: right right right, that's going to rub people the wrong

451
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: way and they're gonna think you're not as dialed into

452
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,360
Speaker 1: football as you should be, or as this guy as

453
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 1: the next guy at your position. So we're going to

454
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: start him, not you, you know what I mean. Well,

455
00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: But that that though, is different because when in Coughland

456
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: get there in seventeen, right, right, so I'm talking the

457
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,640
Speaker 1: two years before. Even then, it sounds like and obviously

458
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: the personality wash yeah, because of the acl that he

459
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 1: tore at the first day of rookie minicamp. I'll never

460
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,320
Speaker 1: forget that. But then in sixteen, when you're coming back

461
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: from that, it still sounds like and he had eight

462
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: sacks or whatever he said that he had, but it

463
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: still sounds like that it wasn't the best fit for him, right.

464
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: I think it was a personality. And that happens in

465
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, where some group, some organization thinks that

466
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: you're not as dialed in as the next guy, so

467
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna start him. We're gonna make you earn it.

468
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,440
Speaker 1: I used to hear stories about Bill Parcels to where

469
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he would just demote a guy

470
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: for no reason, just to see how you react, you

471
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't like stuff like that.

472
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: Well that's but I mean, if it gets the best

473
00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 1: out of a player, if that's exactly what you needed

474
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: at that time, then so be it. But some guys

475
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 1: react poorly to that. You saw it firsthand, remember, Trey Mason. Yes,

476
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 1: you drafted Ty Girly and Trey couldn't handle it. Yes,

477
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: you couldn't handle the competition early. So sometimes it's a

478
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: personality tick that causes guys not to play as much

479
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 1: as they should. But here in Los Angeles, this is

480
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 1: your job. You don't have to compete with a person,

481
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 1: you don't have to impress anybody with your personality. Just

482
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: play football, right. I think that's great for him. Yes,

483
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,640
Speaker 1: I think it is too, and I think that's part

484
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: of why it's worked. The other thing that he was

485
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: talking about was winning cultures and being around a winning culture.

486
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: Said that, you know, going to the AFC Championship Game

487
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, that was great, but it left a bad

488
00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: taste your mouth because you lost the Patriots. Patriots losing

489
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:44,239
Speaker 1: to the Patriots in the Super Bowl in twenty eighteen, right, Like,

490
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,000
Speaker 1: that is also something at leaves a bad taste in

491
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 1: your mouth. But at the same time, now you know

492
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 1: what winning is, is what he's saying, and you don't

493
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 1: want to go back to losing. It just wants to win.

494
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: And that's another reason why he really wants to be here, because,

495
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 1: as he said, you've got a young head that's really

496
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: coming into his prime. And you've got this offense that

497
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: is high scoring, You've got a defense that's got really

498
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: good key players all around you. There's no reason why

499
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,440
Speaker 1: you would not want to be here. No, I just

500
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: I want to see if he can become the story.

501
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: You know, when you go through every game since he

502
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 1: got here, right, good or bad? How many players ram

503
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: players did you go through before you mentioned Fowler on

504
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: any given Sunday. Well, it depends on the game. But

505
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,400
Speaker 1: I mean a NFC Championship game, you didn't mention too many, right,

506
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. I mean, I want to

507
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: see if you can become the story. Can you outplay?

508
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: Can you be talked about more than Aaron Donald for

509
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 1: a week or two? Because I kept telling you guys

510
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: is there's no way I'm gonna let one guy outproduce

511
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: me at the same position for sixteen weeks. Well, same

512
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: thing for an edge rusher or anybody that's on the field.

513
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna let you talk more about golf woods,

514
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 1: cooks cup more than you talk about me, at least

515
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, especially when you're being paid

516
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 1: like that. Right, Well, I think we took until the

517
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: playoffs to see that about too true. We're talking about

518
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: him without using his name. Um, but then follower though,

519
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 1: we did talk about Fowler right, even when the first

520
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: few games that he was in Los Angeles he made

521
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: an impact. Think about the um the first game he

522
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,439
Speaker 1: was in, didn't he like blow up Melvin Ingram in

523
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: the backfield? Or um, it's not Melvin? Which one is

524
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: the running behind Ingram? Ingram? Ingram? Yeah, there's New Orleans

525
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: that's now in Baltimore. But what that's mark Ingram mark Alabama? Yes,

526
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: Melvin in San Diego, San Diego, there in Carson. I

527
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: know where you're going with him? Yeah, mark Ingram? Yes, yes, yes,

528
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,640
Speaker 1: he blew up mark Ingram in the backfild. God did

529
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: he have a saved me look on his face? Save me?

530
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, let's let him sweat for two more seconds.

531
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: Go ahead mark Ingram anyway, go ahead? Yes, but he

532
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 1: blew up mark Ingram in the backfield. Yes, I remember that. Yes,

533
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 1: So then it was a Kamara. It might have been Kimara.

534
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 1: Actually I think ran through its gracious man, I'm having

535
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: a tough time right now. Aaron Donald ran through Kamara

536
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: without actually tackling him. Okay, yeah, and then I think

537
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: it was Ingram that Fowler slashed in on and knocked down. Okay,

538
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 1: my memory is not as good as Sean mcvays. Okay, guys. Right.

539
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: Then the next week against the Seattle Seahawks, right, not Mariners,

540
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: as I really wanted to say right there. I know

541
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: I said, I'm having a tough time. Okay, all time out, bro,

542
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, I wish you would have went with the Mariners.

543
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: Oh no, it would have been great. He had a

544
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: big play against the Seahawks. Yeah, just strip sack against

545
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson had turned into a touchdown. The Rams end

546
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: up winning that game, all right. So right, My point

547
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: is that was making plays throughout the case in point. Right,

548
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 1: So you made a flashplay versus the Seahawks, right, so

549
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: you're a defensive end. Really, let's just call it what

550
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: it is. Okay, what did they rush for that day?

551
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: Like two hundred and thirty That's what I mean. So

552
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: one or two flashways, that's that's fun. That's great. But

553
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be more consistent upfront, That's what I'm saying. Yeah, right, right,

554
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: And I think that's fair. Yeah, sure, And the other

555
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 1: thing you don't have now is I guess a revolving

556
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: door at outside linebacker like it was last year, where

557
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: you're just not sure who's going to play there because

558
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: of so many injuries, right like from Morgan Fox, Dominique easily,

559
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: Matt Longacre got like all these different players. So now right,

560
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 1: you have somebody like Dante Fowler, you have Clay Matthews,

561
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: you have Samson a become that's going to be your

562
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: primary rotation at that outside linebacker spot. Theoretically, yes, we'll see.

563
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's gonna make it through healthy. But yeah,

564
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: I still think it's gonna it won't be a revolving door,

565
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: but it's going to be multiple just because of Clay Matthews.

566
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: But I think the one constant in that group is

567
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,679
Speaker 1: going to be Fowler. When he's in there, he's going forward,

568
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. That is your pass rusher.

569
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: So I think every offense, definitely when it's an obvious

570
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: passing down, can count him as a pass rusher. He's

571
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: coming after me. Let's slide protection that way as he

572
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: should be. Now, Matthews will be the wild card. Is

573
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: he coming? Is he dropping? You know what I mean?

574
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: He'll be the guy that will be a little bit

575
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 1: tricky to figure out, you know what I mean, because

576
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: it's not just going to be from the standpoint of Okay,

577
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: Killey Matthews is on the outside, right, he could be

578
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: on the inside and he could rush it, or he

579
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: could drop true, could be on the outside her rusher,

580
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: he could drop true. So that I think it's like

581
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 1: what Wade Phillips says about three four A lot of

582
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: the time is you're always going to have four guys rushing,

583
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: but you're not necessarily going to know who they are,

584
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: right and in known passing situations that might go up

585
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: to five. Oh, no doubt. So that's part of the versus.

586
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: Great thing about the versatility that claim Matthews brings is

587
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: that you really don't know who that other guy's going

588
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: to be. Right, that fifth guy is going to be

589
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: one of your safeties. It could be. I bet it

590
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: will be. I would bet one of that fifth rusher

591
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: is going to be a safety. Yeah, yeah, because you

592
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: you have a wealth of good safeties, right, I can

593
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: bring it. You have three really four safeties I would

594
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: say that can do both in terms of coverage and

595
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: then getting after guys in the backfield with Eric Weddle,

596
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: John Johnson. Yeah, Marquis Christian announced, and they're not stupid.

597
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: I hate guys that just telegraph blitz is Oh my god,

598
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,719
Speaker 1: that drives me nuts. Why don't you just hold up

599
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: a sign? You know what I mean? I mean, yeah,

600
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: the rest of the secondary is giving a cover two

601
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: look and there you are standing on the line of scrimmage.

602
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: But sorry, anyway, moving on. I don't know what was worse,

603
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: my brain part or whatever you just did. That is

604
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: not good for a podcast. Oh slapping people around, I

605
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: just I just makes me want to slap someone. There

606
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: you go, yeah there, how's that? I'm trying to say better?

607
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, did you can't? Nobody can see what

608
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: you're doing but me. This is why we can have

609
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: nice things, right when you're trying to disguise a blitz.

610
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: But there's one idiot that's just given away. You can

611
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: tell the quarterback knows already, So forget the disguise. Just

612
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: line up at it and go, you know, yeah, yes exactly.

613
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: Let's the other side of the ball though. Sure we'll

614
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: talk about Gerald Everett because I think he is somebody

615
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: who is definitely flashing at this time. Of year, which

616
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: is good. That's better too, flash than a not. And

617
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: obviously they're not in pads and I think that's not

618
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: doing that. But it seems like consistently, day after day,

619
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: Gerald Everett makes at least one catch where I'm like, oh,

620
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, And that's something that we've talked about

621
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: this before. The Rams need more production out of their

622
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: tight ends, point blank, period, no doubt. Right, Like, you

623
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: have not averaged very much out of your tight ends

624
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: per year. You've only had in the two years that

625
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: Sean mcvagh has been head coach, one hundred and seven receptions,

626
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: one thousand, two hundred and twenty seven yards, eight touchdowns

627
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: for all tight ends on the roster. Wow. Wow, So

628
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, like, Yeah, this is an

629
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: area where there could be real growth and real improvement

630
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: or this could be all you get out of your

631
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: tight ends in this offense. Mike Martz never threw to

632
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: tight ends ever. Yeah, it was a known thing. He

633
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: just tight ends weren't a big part of his offense

634
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: at all. It became a running joke, I'm not killing,

635
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: don't go to Yeah. No, if the tight ends did

636
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 1: receive a pass or even a handoff, the entire team

637
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: would just jump for joy, like finally they're being used.

638
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: So it just may not be a big part of

639
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: your offense, but at some point you just can't flash.

640
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: That light has to stay on. Yes, you know, and

641
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: I would bet that you'll see more of a tight

642
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 1: end or more tight end play this year, considering what

643
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is going through. Yes, because I think that's

644
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: where all your tight end possessions or receptions went to.

645
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: You know, let's see throw it to throw it to Everett,

646
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 1: or throw it to Hi Higbee, or hit Todd Gurley

647
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: out of the backfield on a screen. Where are you

648
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: going with? Yes, Yeah, I'm going with the best player

649
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: in the game or one of the best players in

650
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: the game. I think that's how it went early. But

651
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: at some point as the season goes along, your tight

652
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: end's gonna have to play a big role, a bigger

653
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: role than what they have been right. And so I

654
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: think when you watch him in seven on seven, especially

655
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: when they're in the red zone and you see him

656
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: go up, go, elevate, he snatched things out of the

657
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: air in a way where he's getting the ball at

658
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: its highest point. I think that his receiving ability is

659
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: really coming through, no doubt, but that's something that also

660
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 1: has to be here with his blocking ability. And so

661
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: I talked to him yesterday and what he said was

662
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: that I feel better as a blocker. So here's a

663
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: little bit of the conversation between Gerald Everett and myself.

664
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: I feel like a better version of myself I reference

665
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 1: to last year, just you know, older, a little bit

666
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: wise on the field, just you know, being more of

667
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: a complete pro. And you know, I feel like I'm

668
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: a way better blocker than I was last year. So

669
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: just you know, feeling like the actual tight end now

670
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: I'm more so than just to receiving tight end would

671
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: you do to get better blocking? Um? Just to be

672
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: more aggressive and just you know, working on my technique

673
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: with the coach Comer and you know West Shane, coach McVay,

674
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: just you know Tyler as well, but just you know,

675
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: trying to take business pieces from guys and the team,

676
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 1: whether it be whitworth, you know, just watching the techniques

677
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 1: and just trying to translate it to me a tight end.

678
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 1: So that's interesting. You know, if you're watching a guy,

679
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 1: if you're trying to get better as a blocker, you

680
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: probably can't do much better than watching somebody like Andrew Witt. No,

681
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: at some point you're gonna have to put your hands

682
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: on somebody a defensive end and drive him off the football.

683
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 1: You're a tight end. You're not always catching passes, so

684
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: it pays to be better blocking. What I've always understood

685
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: about tight ends as Look, if you're expecting them to

686
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 1: hold the point, then what the hell are you doing offensively?

687
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: They're not blockers, you know what I mean. Yes, they're

688
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: hybrid types, but just be feisty, don't turn down the block.

689
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: You don't have to be Jimmy Graham, a guy who

690
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: just will not block at all. Yeah, you might as

691
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: well just never align him. Yeah in a line, I mean,

692
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,960
Speaker 1: a guy who will actually back up when the ball

693
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: is coming to him. You know, you have to hook

694
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: this guy. Block this guy at least stay in front

695
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: of him. And he wants no part of it. So

696
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: that you can't play with a guy that gets knocked back,

697
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: but at least is feisty you can play with. Yeah,

698
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: stay with the guy, try at least to move the guy. Yeah,

699
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: And he said that working with Wes Phillips has been helpful.

700
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: You know, in those kinds of things, and you tight

701
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: ends coach obviously, son of what Wade Phillips as well,

702
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 1: But Joe from the standpoint of you need somebody who

703
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: can expand the offense, this is really what he was

704
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: drafted to do. He being Gerald Everett, right, yeah, he

705
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: was a second round pick. He was the first draft

706
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 1: pick of the Sean McVeigh era. So this is somebody

707
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: that really the Rams have always had pretty big plans for.

708
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: And I think going back to last year and this

709
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: is what not another gto in the garage? No, you

710
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 1: better hope now not another in the garage, right though,

711
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: But this is the year where I think he's got

712
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 1: to prove that that's not the case. We'll see, but

713
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: he's already made more place than Brian Quick ever did

714
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: ever like four years or five years, however long he

715
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: was that he was with the Rams offense. I think

716
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: we can definitively say Gerald Everett has made more place.

717
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: I would say that, but just go back to when

718
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: Jared Cook was in a Rams uniform, and I remember

719
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: he took a beating, right yeah. And I would try

720
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: to tell people, when have you ever seen a defense

721
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: not respect him as an cover. He's a focal point.

722
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: He's a problem. He can't block, Yeah, but when he

723
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: takes a step to his left and the ball's going right,

724
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: that defenders going with him, you know what I mean.

725
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 1: You have to honor that. Yeah, it makes a big difference.

726
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: So you don't have to be a tough guy to

727
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,839
Speaker 1: be an effective blocker at tight end. Right. You know,

728
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,280
Speaker 1: if you're a guy that's a threat to run around people,

729
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 1: they will honor you and stay with you. You'll pull

730
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 1: a guy off in the run with that. So at

731
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: some point, like he said, being a more well rounded pro,

732
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: I think we're going to find out exactly what type

733
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: of player he is this year. Yes, yes, especially if

734
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: he stays healthy. Now, I think we would have found

735
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: out more about that last year had he not gotten

736
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: hurt in training camp. And that's part of what I

737
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: was asking him at the beginning there, and he's saying

738
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: in reference to last year, et cetera. You know, one

739
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: of the things that I noticed in this time last

740
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 1: year was him taking those steps as well. So he

741
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: looked like he was able to process things better and

742
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: be able. He looked like he was going to be

743
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: able to take another step, and they got her in

744
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: training camp and then that sent him back and the

745
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 1: Rams were still heavy love and personnel throughout the course

746
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: of the year, no doubt. Yeah. Remember Vernon Davis, the

747
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: tight end, Yeah, the four three tight end Washington. Yeah, Yeah,

748
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: tremendous player. U it's this, it's similar. This is it.

749
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: It's nitpicking, but it's the one thing I hope that

750
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: Jerald Everett improves on is his catch radius. That's all.

751
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: When he gets the ball in his hands, he is dangerous.

752
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: When he turns north and south. You've got issues as

753
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: a secondary, right, if he gets behind you. He can't

754
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: outrun you. You've seen that. And he's tough enough to

755
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: take a hit, right. But the catch radius, sometimes you

756
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: have to make the circus because sometimes you have to

757
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: make the circus. The circus catch. Yes, you know, if

758
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: if Jared Goff and if they're calling it like they

759
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: usually call it, which means woods, cup, cooks, girly, I

760
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: get all the way to you and my progression. I'm

761
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 1: under pressure. That ball's not coming out perfectly. So if

762
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: it's behind you, in front of you got to dive,

763
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: think gronk. Yeah, you've got to make the catch some way.

764
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: So just improve the catch radius, that's all. Yeah, I

765
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: think that's something that he can do. And yeah, like

766
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: I said, it seems like every day there's some kind

767
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 1: of catch that he makes where you're just gonna go Wow,

768
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: no doubt. I just I remember arguing, oh God, was

769
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: it when they put Manyon in against the Niners? Was

770
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: that last season or two seasons ago? Week seventeen, week seventeen? Yeah,

771
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: it was two years ago, two years ago seventeen. Ye, right,

772
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: when they when they sat everybody for the playoffs. Yeah,

773
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: and Manyon let one go and it was behind him, right,

774
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: and the guy's upstairs. My guys JB and Moe were saying,

775
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: bad throw, and I'm like, bad throw. You got to

776
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: catch that. If you can spend your body around and

777
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: put two hands on it, I'm expecting you to come

778
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: down with it. It's not always going to be perfect.

779
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: You have to make that catch, especially when your wide

780
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: ass open in the middle of the field. Did it

781
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: hit you in the hands? Bingoes? Isn't that the thing? Sure?

782
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: I want a better pass, but it's not always going

783
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: to be perfect, right, Yeah. Yeah. So I asked Sean

784
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: McVay two about Gerald Everett and his progression over the offseason,

785
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,240
Speaker 1: and here's what McVay said. I think the game's slown

786
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: down for him. I think you know, any time that

787
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 1: you play the tight end position and you're asked to

788
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: move all over the formation, you're asked to contribute in

789
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 1: protection in the run game, you know, as a separator

790
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: in the past game. And I think he's just continuing

791
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: to progress and take step smiles. I think with some

792
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 1: of the routes that that entail some decision making, things

793
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: are slowing down for him. He's playing with patients, he's

794
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: got great, you know, aggressive hands where he can step

795
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 1: to the football, and I think you're just seeing a

796
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: guy gain confidence, gain experience. And you know everybody talks

797
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: about the games slowing down, but you know, you're the

798
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: more that you're able to accumulate those mental reps and

799
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: then apply him to when you see some different looks.

800
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: He's done a really good job with that. And I think,

801
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, whether it be Shane or West now leading

802
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: that room, Tyler Higbee has been instrumental in helping Gerald.

803
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: Listening to those two help each other get better has

804
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: been fun to watch and and Gerald is definitely a

805
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: guy that has been a very, very bright, very good

806
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: bright spot for us in the offseason program. The way

807
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: that he's approached it and attacked it, no doubt. You know,

808
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: if Johnny Munn was bigger, god, he'd be dangerous. Oh

809
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: my god. He's well rounded. The guy can do just

810
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: about it, anything and everything really well. He's a great

811
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: tight end, just not the biggest guy in the world. Sure, yeah,

812
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: but I don't know if you know. I used to

813
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 1: play drums. I think you've mentioned it way back when um,

814
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: and it's funny. You become a much better drummer when

815
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 1: you're not looking at the skins in front of you,

816
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: meaning what when you're not looking down at the drums

817
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: and making sure like I hit this or I know

818
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: where it is. Oh yeah, yeah, well you can just

819
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: play and look around. I mean you become a much

820
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: better pro. Yeah. When you're driving a stick do you

821
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: drive automatic or manual transmission? To driving manual transmission? And

822
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: then I gave it up because I gave him my

823
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: old car, and now I regret it heavily, even though

824
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: driving in traffic in the morning, it's much more pleasant

825
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: without the manual transmission. This is a much longer answer

826
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: than is tired. Are you talking to your mom right now. No,

827
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,439
Speaker 1: I'm talking to myself because I talk, I think about

828
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: this is very often. All right, So like in December,

829
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: I know, well no, so in December I got a

830
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: different car. Yeah, go ahead, okay, And like I got

831
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: it in part because it's it's cheaper, and you know,

832
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: I wanted better gas miles because I live in California.

833
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: And I also thinking, you know, like I, it's tough

834
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: to drive a manual transmission car out here. It just

835
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,399
Speaker 1: you sit in traffic all the time. It's annoying. So

836
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,839
Speaker 1: part of the emphasis for getting the cheaper car was, well,

837
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 1: maybe I can get the second car. I can get

838
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: a second and I can get a cheap GTI, and

839
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: I can drive it whenever I want, right, But that

840
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 1: does not happen yet. Long story. But now when I

841
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 1: drive to work every day, like I'm a little annoyed

842
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: because I don't. It's like I lost a part of

843
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 1: myself while I gave it my manual transmission car. You

844
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: have missed your calling. You would be a great filibuster.

845
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about right now, TLDR.

846
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 1: I got rid of my g TI and I really

847
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: miss sit and I shouldn't have done it. Okay, Anyway,

848
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: what I was trying to say is it's a lot

849
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: easier to drive a manual transmission when you don't have

850
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: to look down to see what gear you're in. Oh yeah,

851
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: you can't really drive that car. You can't really drive

852
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: a manual transmission if you don't know what you're doing. No,

853
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: imagine being a tight end that's moving around when you're

854
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: not X sure what's going on. Oh so that's where

855
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: you were going with that. We were just talking about. No,

856
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: you play a little bit slower and at that spot

857
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: you can't, you know what I mean? Yes, So slowing

858
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: down is I know everything that's going on. I'm dialed in,

859
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 1: I know the terminology, I know where I'm supposed to be,

860
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: and who has what? You play faster exactly? I mean,

861
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: it's like anything else, right, you have to sometimes you

862
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: have to know what's exactly inside the box before you

863
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: start to play outside of it. It's exactly like what

864
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: I say about writing all the time. You have to

865
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: know what the writing rules are and so that you

866
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,760
Speaker 1: can stop thinking about what they are and then just write.

867
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: And then that's how you get to break the rules.

868
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: But you already know what they are. It's funny, man.

869
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: I watch you when you write, and I am jealous.

870
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: I've told you this before. Yeah, because you don't have

871
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: to look at your fingers I do. It sucks, right, right,

872
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: great ideas, but I just can't put them on paper

873
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: because I have to look down. You can think in

874
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 1: type at the same time I can't. Anyway, there, it's

875
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: it's me. It's the only compliment you'll get from me

876
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: all day. It's being a millennial. I don't deserve any

877
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: other compliments. Do you have derailed the show now twice?

878
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: You're time with my brain fart the second time because

879
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: I just like talking to transmission. But I get where

880
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: you're going. I mean, I mean, I hope that we

881
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: get to see the best of Gerald Everett. You know,

882
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: whatever that is, whatever his ceiling is. You know this

883
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,720
Speaker 1: is your chance to prove it. You'll never have another

884
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: season like this, you know what I mean. Yes, this

885
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: is a big opportunity for you. Yes, and that that's

886
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: the same way I feel I think from him. I'd

887
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: shut off the phones. I would I'd have one number,

888
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: I have a beeper. I would shut out the freaking world.

889
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: This is it. This is your year to prove it

890
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:39,080
Speaker 1: is a huge year, huge year, and Gronk's gone, you

891
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, that mantle of the best

892
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: tight end in the game is wide open. There are

893
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: some guys out there that I guess are gonna step forward,

894
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 1: Like Kittle's a guy that's gonna step right into that role.

895
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: But that's wide open right now. I would also nominate

896
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. Yes, it's Kansas City Chiefs take it. Yeah,

897
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: and you're telling me that Kelsey has more ability than

898
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: this guy athletically. I don't know exactly, you know, but

899
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: he might like it's it's I think the point is

900
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: it's an open question, no doubt. Because if you if

901
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: you watch Gerald Everett on the field, if you see

902
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: the speed, you see the power, you see the potential,

903
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: can you go out and grab it? That That's the

904
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,879
Speaker 1: only thing we have not seen him produce consistently week

905
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: to week base that's the biggest difference between him and Kelsey.

906
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: As I see production, yep, I see the same thing

907
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: and Kelsey as I see in Gerald Everett, except this

908
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: guy's producing at a high level, right and they go

909
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: to him a lot more they do. Yeah, Yes, And

910
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 1: I think there's a clear difference between what that Kansas

911
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 1: City offense is and what this offense here is here

912
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, because well, Jared Goff has three weapons

913
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: on the outside in Woods, Cooks, and Cup Yeah, that

914
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: are elite, right, and you also have Todd Grilling in

915
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: the backfield, who also is elite, no doubt, right. And

916
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: you know before the Kareem Hunt stuff happened in Kansas City,

917
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: they also had a good back but that was more

918
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,720
Speaker 1: of a triumph of a trio of guy that would

919
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: be I would say Hunt, Tarique Hill and then Travis Kelsey, Right,

920
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: So that's part of that big three as opposed to

921
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: a big four which is here. And then you go

922
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 1: to the tight end with what they ask you to

923
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: do in this offense, this RAM offense, if you can

924
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: go to the Pro Bowl from the tight end spot,

925
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,760
Speaker 1: you are a bad man. You are an absolute beast.

926
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,319
Speaker 1: That means you're blocking and catching end scoring all at

927
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: the same time. Yeah. Yeah, But so I think Gerald

928
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: Everard has that potential. Let's see. Let's hope, yes, yes, yes,

929
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: let's definitely hope anything you want to see out of

930
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: the Rams over this next week and a half. No,

931
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: m you mean for Mini camp. Yeah, the first two guys,

932
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean OTAs is OTAs. When you're going against guys

933
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,879
Speaker 1: you know in the offense defense competitive situation. I mean

934
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: it's very very controlled. Right Mini camp is gonna be

935
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: a little bit different, which means Sean McVay is gonna

936
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: be gonna try to win on offense and Wade Phillips

937
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 1: is going to try to win on defense. They're trying

938
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: to get ready for Carolina. So there's going to be

939
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: a competition. So to me, that puts Ryan Allen and

940
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: Joseph Noeboom on Front Street because right now it's a

941
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 1: little easy. The defense isn't going to move. Your responsibility

942
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: is this will come Mini camp, come training camp, come preseason.

943
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 1: What you see is going to be a facade and

944
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 1: you're going to have to pick it up on the fly.

945
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: So even Sean McVay said it's starting to slow down,

946
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: well for them, it's going to be a thousand miles

947
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: an hour early. So it just puts those guys on

948
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: Front Street a little bit more because you're that much

949
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 1: closer to competing, right And I think the protection aspect

950
00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: from Brian Allen is probably the biggest question that We've

951
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: got to have answered because that's really your role as

952
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: a center. You have to be able to call at

953
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 1: the protections and now that is in conjunction with your

954
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: quarterback in Jared Goff. And Goff has said a lot

955
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: that there's a lot that he learned from John Sullivan

956
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to making calls, diagnosing defenses, etc. Etc.

957
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: Because there's so much that John Sullivan has seen over

958
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: the course of his career in the league. Brian Allen

959
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: has also said, I tried to take as much as

960
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: I could from John Sullivan because he clearly had a

961
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: lot of experience and a lot of knowledge, no doubt.

962
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 1: So how does that play out in the early going?

963
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: That's going to be something that could really determine a

964
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: lot of the offensive success. Yeah, and it's going to

965
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,359
Speaker 1: affect Jared Goff, and I don't think I've ever talked

966
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 1: about this publicly. I saw the fight go out of

967
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Mark Bulger in training camp. You know, when you're in

968
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: walkthroughs or in drills versus your defense and you have

969
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: seven walkthroughs in nine plays, our seven runthroughs in nine

970
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: plays where the defense just gets home right and you

971
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: have no chance. Now you have to complete the play

972
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 1: in practice, but he knows that's a sack. I just

973
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: got hit. I just got murdered. Yep, you can see, man,

974
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: I have no protection. I have no faith in what's

975
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 1: going on in front of me. You could tell that early.

976
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to be letter perfect to give

977
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: Goff that confidence in you so he can play his

978
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: best game and not worry about being hit. Right, And

979
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that Look, if Jared Goff has

980
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: the protection, then we've seen him excel. Yeah, when there's

981
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,479
Speaker 1: pressure coming up the middle problems. Yes, I just read

982
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: something They highlighted John sullivan struggles first seven weeks he

983
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: gave up four pressures. Last the last eight games, he

984
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: gave up thirty two. And there was a complete different

985
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: Jared Goff in those same games, right, yeah, crazy, Yes,

986
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: So I think when people ask the question, well, what

987
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: happened to Jared Goff after the bye week, that's a

988
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: big part of the answer. Right. So I like it.

989
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: If you if look, if you're going to call for

990
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: any breakdown or any one of your offensive line men

991
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 1: is going to go down or struggle, struggle towards the

992
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: end of the year, not early at least you'll have

993
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,720
Speaker 1: a chance to fight your way out of it towards

994
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,479
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Early, you've got no chance.

995
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 1: Think of Bradford when he came here, when it was

996
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: just a jailbreak. Early you knew, oh god, I got

997
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: no shot. And that's early in the season. Their season

998
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: was done, right, Yeah, right, exactly. I would like to

999
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 1: see Jeraldrick continue to be consistent and so especially since

1000
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: we just talked about him. I like to see Taylor

1001
00:47:56,040 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: Rap get some snaps in, Greg Gaines gets snaps in,

1002
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: Darrell Henderson continue to work his way into the offense.

1003
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 1: I think the more you can see out of those

1004
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: rookies early, probably the more they're going to have a

1005
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 1: chance to contribute during the regular season. And they're probably

1006
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: guys that the Rams are going to need at some point. Oh,

1007
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: especially those three Gaines and Alan. I can't wait when

1008
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: it's live, go right, make sure you blow that whistle

1009
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: nice and loud, yeah, because both guys like to go

1010
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: to the echo of the whistle, you know what I mean.

1011
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: So you may get like twenty guys walking back to

1012
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,720
Speaker 1: the huddle and those two guys are still locking horns

1013
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: because they don't know the play is dead. You know

1014
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, you're right right. I can't wait

1015
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 1: for that. That's gonna be fun. I always love that.

1016
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: You gotta go to the echo of the whistle. I

1017
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 1: was a go to the echo of the whistle. Guy.

1018
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 1: That means you're dirty, Miles. No, no, no, that is

1019
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: the very definition of dirty. No, it's not. The whistle

1020
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: is blown. Stop. See this is how we wind up

1021
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: fighting echo of the whistle. You offensive lineman, come diving

1022
00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 1: over the pile, hitting us in the side of the

1023
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: head because you're going to the echo of the whistle.

1024
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: Was not diving into the pile, first of all. So

1025
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: here's one thing that happened to Price. This is the

1026
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: only time somebody ever tried to like come. This is

1027
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: why I didn't. I didn't mind and Dominican Sue kicking people?

1028
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 1: What they do to him? Oh my god, what were

1029
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: they doing to him? Playing to the echo of the whistle? Okay,

1030
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: have the size twelve? Right? Yeah? I think Sue's shoe

1031
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: is bigger than okay, fifteen, whatever it is, yeah, whatever

1032
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: it is. But no, so some there was one time

1033
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: in practice, and this must have been my junior year.

1034
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,359
Speaker 1: I think so, guys, playing scout team defense. Right, I'm

1035
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: gonna go to the echo of the whistle. Guy, So

1036
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: I already do this. It's not dirty. So like I'm blocking, huh.

1037
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: And then you know at the end of it, you know, okay,

1038
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 1: so the whistle blow. Yeah, and then then we just

1039
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: give we'll push mile takes to eat. You take two

1040
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: more steps. I take an extra step, but the whistle

1041
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 1: is blown. But the plays no, I gotta make sure that.

1042
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,280
Speaker 1: I gotta make sure we finished the block. Plays stop

1043
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: because in a game, what am I gonna do? Right,

1044
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: I don't get No, I don't know when the play

1045
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 1: is gonna end during the game, so now I can't hear.

1046
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Usually they blow a whistle that means you stop. It

1047
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: couldn't mean stop stop. I did stop after giving an

1048
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: after step running red lights kind of running running red lights.

1049
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: See there you go. But so this one particular day,

1050
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 1: this person took exception to that as well. He should No,

1051
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have. If you don't want, if you don't

1052
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: want to be blocked on okay, team didn't play well

1053
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: enough to get off the scout fine, and so he

1054
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: started coming at me. And then I was like, what

1055
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: are you doing? And so then I blocked him harder. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1056
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: then I put his ass in the ground. So when

1057
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 1: I bury your quarterback right and he can't get up,

1058
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: I'm just playing to the echo the practice, and that

1059
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,919
Speaker 1: is roughing the passer. Oh oh see, that's what I'm saying.

1060
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: So you hid behind that crap all the time. You

1061
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 1: can't even up the past dirty sobs. Oh I can't

1062
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: stand you guys, all of you. Oh my god. Oh

1063
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: there's a special place in hell for you people. Probably, yes,

1064
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: that's oh, that's only one of the special places, and

1065
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: either are probably many special places led by Alex Gibbs.

1066
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: Oh echo of the whistle. Okay, you want to play

1067
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: that game, let's go. I don't know. I just I've

1068
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: always understood what that meant. Right, be dirty, take liberty.

1069
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: You just explained it. I can't do anything to you, right. No,

1070
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: But like this guy's trying to fight me, Like, why

1071
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: are you trying to fight me? Because you hit him

1072
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: after the whistle. I did not hit him. I finished

1073
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: the block. Oh my god. Okay, that's like a guy

1074
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 1: hitting getting hit after the bell. I'm just going to

1075
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 1: the echo of the bell. No bell means stop, that's

1076
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: a different sport. That's whistle means stopped. Oh my god,

1077
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: justifying it? Oh? Any parting shots. Yes, if you buy

1078
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: a brand new, two million dollars Bugatti, don't drive it

1079
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 1: in midtown New York and expect not to have an accident.

1080
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 1: This happen. Yes, Tracy Morgan, fifteen minutes after he bought

1081
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: the car, he got in the wreck and he's mad

1082
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: at the other driver. I would be too. No, have

1083
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: the car delivered home? Man, Okay, I'm just saying, good lord.

1084
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: And by the way, if you're a televangelist and Lisa

1085
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 1: Guerrero is asking a question and she's right, just answer it.

1086
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: Just say you got me. Yeah, don't try to fight

1087
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: true out of it. Yeah. Yeah, what do you need?

1088
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: What do you need? What do you need a private

1089
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: plane for? Just come on, man, I'm I'm vain. Just

1090
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 1: say that and move on. Yeah, right right, It only

1091
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: makes you look bad. Yes, my shout out will go

1092
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: to a Corey effort in Brittany Russell. So I am

1093
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: officiating a wedding this weekend. Wait, I'm sorry you're officiating

1094
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: a wedding. Yeah, how can you officiate a wedding? I'm

1095
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 1: an ordained minister, bro, and you're talking about going to

1096
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: the echo of a whistle and you're a minister. Oh god,

1097
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: oh evil, I told you. Wow. Well, congratulations, Yes, congratulations

1098
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: to Korean Britany. I'm sure it's going to be a

1099
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: great day. I'm really looking forward to it. Um. Yeah,

1100
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: if you, if anybody out there, you know you want

1101
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: a minister for your wedding ceremony? Yeah, guy, he goes

1102
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: through the echo of the nuptials. It's gonna be a

1103
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: great ceremony. I wrote it myself. You wrote the ceremony. Yeah,

1104
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: I get to write a script like Okay, how do

1105
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: you start that? What do you say, dearly beloved? Okay,

1106
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: beyond that, family and friends, like I will tell and

1107
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't want to like spoil the wedding. I'm not

1108
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,600
Speaker 1: gonna tell exactly what it's but like I have a

1109
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: couple of stories about them. Yeah, but for them, like

1110
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 1: my friendship with both of them, and um, you know.

1111
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: Then we'll go into a declaration of intent, and there's

1112
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: all kinds there's all kinds of good stuff. We'll congratulation reading,

1113
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: love is patient, love is kind. Yeah, those stinks. Wow,

1114
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: there's a song. Yeah, okay, love stinks. Never heard that

1115
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: for your time. It probably was yeh, look it up.

1116
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: It's called Anyway. I will look it up anyway. Yeah,

1117
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be fun. I'm looking forward to that.

1118
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 1: Congrats man, that's fun. Yes, it is. Honestly is one

1119
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: of the big honors of my life because like to

1120
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: last last year I read at our friend Glenn Connolly's wedding. Yeah,

1121
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: and so like that was very cool and also another

1122
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: one of the honors of my life because like you know,

1123
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: first of all, just being at somebody's wedding, like that's huge.

1124
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 1: It's a big, big day. And like, to me, if

1125
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: somebody's going to ask me to do that, like that's

1126
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,399
Speaker 1: a big responsibility and I'm not going to let them down.

1127
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: So like that just reading at one was one thing,

1128
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: but like having to do an entire ceremony and like

1129
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: be the person that pronounces these people man and wife

1130
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: by the power vested in me by the state of California.

1131
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,439
Speaker 1: It's a big power. That's cool, man, that's really cool.

1132
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,760
Speaker 1: It's really cool. My image of you is totally blown.

1133
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 1: It is really big time. Who would trust you with

1134
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: that responsibility? Apparently these two people, That's what I mean,

1135
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,840
Speaker 1: will the entire state just dide? Yeah, unbelievable. Wow. We'll

1136
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:05,759
Speaker 1: have a full report next week on the wedding. Awesome.

1137
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: I hope I will not screw anything. This is why

1138
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: I wish head slaps were legal for people like you.

1139
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: Of any well, thanks so much for listening to this

1140
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,399
Speaker 1: edition of Between the Lords. Everybody for poor Tomarco far

1141
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: on miles sevens. We will see you next up.