1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 2: Heather ivany spiritual mentor is here. She is an acaciic 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: guide and yoga teacher with twenty plus years of experience 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 2: leading souls through life altering transformation and growth that aligns 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:25,440 Speaker 2: them to their current being the keyword current purpose. Heather, Hi, 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: how are you. 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 3: I'm doing very well. Happy to be with you today. 9 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Kelly, Thanks so much for being here. I found your 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: story so interesting because now you're in this world of 11 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: being a spiritual mentor. You have such a history in yoga, 12 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: but you didn't always work in this area. So you 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: started in something of firefighting and it was river guiding, 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: I believe, which is completely different. So can you talk 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: us through how you got from firefighting and working outside 16 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 2: into this now spiritual job and helping other people on 17 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: their knees. 18 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So the curiosity with the spiritual realm 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 3: has kind of always been there since I was a kid. 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: I mean, the access that I had to it was 21 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 3: more through the church, Catholic church growing up. But even 22 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: though I didn't quite align with that house, there was 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 3: always a part of me that was curious in what 24 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 3: more was available to us that we just couldn't see. 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,800 Speaker 3: And then I grew up in a house with like 26 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 3: two older brothers, really had to like elbow your way 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 3: in to get any attention and anything done. So I 28 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 3: had a very like jock kind of upbringing. We grew 29 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 3: up in the eighties when you're kind of flying around 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: the neighborhoods on bikes and you had a lot of freedom. 31 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 3: So that just carried with me in my teens in 32 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: my twenties. So I got into river guiding first. It 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: was a combination of river guiding and rock climbing and 34 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 3: leading people on hiking trails and whatnot in the rocky 35 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: mountains in Alberta and Canada, and then spent some time 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 3: up north on the Nahani River, which which is one 37 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 3: of the bigger, more famous rivers here in Canada. And 38 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: what I noticed in that industry was it's just so 39 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 3: type a. It's very masculine, it's very go go go 40 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 3: in the sense of like doing all the exciting things 41 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 3: in nature. And so there's always a part of me 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 3: that was kind of longing for a little bit more 43 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 3: solitude and quiet and contemplation. So what actually pulled me 44 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: out of that was more burnout and my body I 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 3: was noticing wasn't doing well with all the demands that 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: were placed upon it. And then the income was just 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 3: really low. So I moved out of that. I started 48 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: playing a little bit with what else can I do 49 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: that's related to being physical but actually could lead me 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 3: into deeper pockets, And so that's when I started to 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: explore yoga. And for me, when I first started playing 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 3: with yoga, I actually didn't even know that the physical 53 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 3: component of the awesna connected to meditation or philosophy in 54 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 3: any way. I didn't actually discover that until I went 55 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: into a teacher training. And when you start to play 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 3: with all the different facets of yoga, that's where I 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 3: was really opened up to the different layers and branches 58 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: that are connected to it. But I was also noticing 59 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 3: how much it related to me in the different things 60 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 3: that I had interested in passions with, But I just 61 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 3: didn't know that there was a home where they could 62 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 3: actually all participate together. So that's what kind of led 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: me into the passion and the romance and the smittenness 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: with the yoga realm. For sure. 65 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 2: You mentioned burnout and That's something I've talked a lot 66 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: about on this podcast because I found myself there a 67 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: couple of years ago as well, and for me, it 68 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 2: was very tied into the go go go, and I 69 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: was operating a lot in my masculine. Was there anything 70 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: specific that you could kind of give listeners that you 71 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 2: started to recognize in yourself that you were able to 72 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: identify as you operating in the masculine and knowing like 73 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 2: that wasn't your core energy and where you needed to 74 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: stay to really thrive. 75 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. For me, I mean it shows up in interesting ways. 76 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: For me, I think what I would notice the parts 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: of myself that I didn't like. So when I'm deep 78 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 3: into the mask and I can get a real kind 79 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 3: of sarcastic, kind of cutting humor, that can show up 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 3: that I would say things that I thought was funny, 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 3: and then afterwards I was like, Oh, I don't like 82 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 3: how that came across or how I behaved in that situation. 83 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 3: I also noticed that my cycle would stop and slow down, 84 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: like that's how extreme I was with it. 85 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: Wow. 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 3: And then the sort of part that kind of really 87 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 3: hit home was the industries that I'm in attracts of 88 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 3: very similar personalities. So the guys that I would be 89 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 3: dating and hanging out with, they were really attracted to 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: the part of me that had this real outdoors, kind 91 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 3: of adventurous spirit. And then when I went into the 92 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 3: firefighting realm, I met a mechanic who's now my husband, 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: but he was a helicopter mechanic and he saw the 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 3: parts of me that I actually covering up, and that's 95 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: where he started to, you know, take interest in me. 96 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 3: And as those parts started to be revealed, it was 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 3: almost like a longing for myself started to come forward, 98 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: and these feminine aspects of me just really wanted an outlet. 99 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 2: Did yoga doing so much yoga really help you tap 100 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 2: more into your feminine I know, I've heard that movement 101 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: like yoga is very essential for women or I guess 102 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 2: anyone trying to tap into their feminine energy. 103 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. What I think yoga did for me is 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: because it's a practice that can really slow down. It 105 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 3: gets you to move out of non patterned grooves, so 106 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: it gives you it gives you possibility and potential to 107 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 3: move in a way that's not patterned. And then as 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 3: soon as you're moving in a non patterned way, you're 109 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: giving yourself choice and freedom to play with what else 110 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 3: is available to you. The biggest thing I noticed with 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 3: yoga was, prior to that, a lot of the like 112 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: I've been a teacher since I was young, I've always 113 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: coached or done something in that capacity, But when I 114 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: moved into the field of yoga, it was teaching and 115 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 3: leading from a more introverted, I would say, slightly tender, 116 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 3: more vulnerable part of myself. Prior to that, I'd always 117 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: taught and coached from the real extroverted, outgoing nature within me. 118 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 3: So that was where it was almost demanded of me 119 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 3: to kind of entertain and get familiar with the feminine 120 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: so that the parts of the yoga experience that wanted 121 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: to be revealed to the class could come forward. 122 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,680 Speaker 2: That just hit me so hard, because even in this 123 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 2: podcast or any of the work that I do, something 124 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: I've never been able to identify with is speaking from 125 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 2: that expert place and that driver of like this is 126 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 2: what you should do. I'm like, I don't know what 127 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: anyone should do on their journey, Like their journey is 128 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 2: their journey, you know. But I can tell you guys 129 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: about my experience. But I'm realizing maybe I'm grappling with 130 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: that because of masculine and feminine energy. 131 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean I don't same as you're saying 132 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 3: that you don't know what people need. You know yourself best. 133 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 3: But the part of you that wants to like the 134 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: part of us that's connected to the over preparedness and 135 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 3: trying to connect with all your questions kind of laid 136 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 3: out before you start, and then directing and managing and 137 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 3: controlling how the conversation goes. That's very much like the 138 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 3: masculine in its kind of more hard edged form. But 139 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 3: what you said to me at the very beginning is 140 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: I love this to be conversational. 141 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it goes. 142 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 3: I have a few points that create a bit of 143 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: a framework of how to lead in, but then from 144 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 3: there we'll just see where it takes us. That's the feminine, 145 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 3: the one that wants to create and explore through us. 146 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. So interesting. Well, earlier I mentioned the words current purpose, 147 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: and I found that really interesting when I was reading 148 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: about your work, because you specifically say that our incarnated 149 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: purpose is fluid and it changes as we evolve, and 150 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: I've never registered anything remotely close to that, and I've 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 2: always thought you just came here and you have this 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 2: one purpose and this is the way, and if you're 153 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: in line with it, things are going to work out, 154 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: and if you're off like, things are going to start 155 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 2: going bad. So can you talk through that a little bit? 156 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: Because I'm fascinated by that concept. 157 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 3: Well, the conversation of purpose. I think we make it 158 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: static because we forget that it's energy and so everything, 159 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 3: everything that we relate to is energy, and so energy 160 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: is always in form of change. It's always changing. Sometimes 161 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 3: it's slow and sometimes it's fast. So the experience that 162 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,959 Speaker 3: I've had with myself and with others is that our 163 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 3: purpose will reveal itself to the degree that our becoming, 164 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,599 Speaker 3: which is the part of ourselves that's growing and expanding, 165 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: is expressing. So when I was in my early twenties, 166 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: my purpose very much so was being in the field 167 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 3: of teaching yoga and leading people through classes. And I 168 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 3: don't want people to sort of box purpose into just 169 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: being a career of vocations. It's more how we show 170 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: up and engage with the dance of life. Right. And 171 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 3: then if the Acashek records would have come in in 172 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 3: my twenties, I wouldn't have been prepared for it. I 173 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 3: wouldn't have known how to manage it and work with 174 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 3: it because I didn't have the tools and the skill 175 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 3: set to play with it. So now in my mid 176 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 3: to late forties, the purpose for me right now that 177 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm noticing is that I'm aligning people with their individual self, 178 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 3: their center, their purpose, and supporting them with expanding it 179 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 3: so people can come in and just get more direction 180 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: as to what brings meaning into their life. And I 181 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: can also work with the individual that's like, I know 182 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 3: exactly what I'm here to do, but I just don't 183 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 3: know how to amplify it, how to express it, how 184 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: to expand it. So I work with either aligning or 185 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: expand people's purpose. But absolutely it's it's always changing, and 186 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: the degree to which we are moving towards our next 187 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 3: becoming is the degree to which our purpose will be 188 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: revealed to us. 189 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 2: So it really is about, well, the way I'm hearing that, 190 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: it's where we are in our journey, and that, like 191 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 2: you said, you couldn't identify what the Acashak records was. 192 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: We'll explain what that is. And at just a second, 193 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: you guys, if you're listening and you're like, what is that? 194 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 2: I didn't know either, but you couldn't have identified it 195 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: or even maybe had an interest in it in your 196 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 2: twenties because that wasn't where your journey was leading at 197 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: that point. But as you evolved and grew and face 198 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: different challenges or whatever it was, then things are able 199 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: to come in and you're kind of presented with the 200 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: options at that time totally. 201 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 3: And for me, like yoga will always be my baseline. 202 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 3: It's okay, it's the way that everything has kind of 203 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: built from the foundation of the yoga practice that I 204 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 3: started in my teens, So that needed to be established 205 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 3: and anchored first for me, not for everyone, before I 206 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 3: could move into the platform of the acasia. So for example, 207 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 3: if I just sprung right into the Akashak records, but 208 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 3: I didn't have an anchor, I didn't have a foundation, 209 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: I didn't have a baseline, then it would become a 210 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 3: very scattered energy or yeah, probably be fleeting. It would 211 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: probably come across as sort of the stereotypical kind of 212 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 3: wooho kind of girl who you know, has rose colored glasses, 213 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 3: because I'm not really a part of the physical realm, 214 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 3: this three dimensional realm of Earth. So I got that 215 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: baseline very deeply rooted and then I allowed myself to 216 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: liberate into the Acashak records. But they're both equally a 217 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 3: part of my my, my every day, and there's no 218 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 3: hierarchy between the Earth and the cosmos. They're very equal 219 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: to me. 220 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, we've mentioned the records and I said we 221 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 2: would explain this because I've heard of this, I've heard 222 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: these words, but it is very much just this kind 223 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: of daunting thing to me that I've just never really 224 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 2: come across in any sort of the work that I've done. 225 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 2: Can you, first of all, just explain what are the 226 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: Akashak records. 227 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 3: So Akasha is sort of the bigger umbrella of the 228 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 3: Akashak records. So Akasha is a Sanskrit word which means 229 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: space or spirit. So if you are more science based, 230 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: then the word space relates to the quantum field, which 231 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: is the study of everything, right, And if you're more 232 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: spiritually based, then spirit connects to consciousness and consciousness is everywhere. 233 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,680 Speaker 3: So Akasha is just this big word that envelops everything. 234 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 3: But the Akashak Records specifically is basically, if you think 235 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: of it, kind of like the divine blueprint of your soul. 236 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 3: So everyone, if you're open to it has a soul, 237 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,880 Speaker 3: and that soul has information contained within it, which we 238 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 3: call the akashak records. It's the timeline of your soul. 239 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 3: So if people are open to having previous life experiences, 240 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 3: whether it's on Earth or on other planets, that's sort 241 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 3: of encapsulated in the frequency of someone's soul. It's like 242 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 3: an etheric library book of your history, your present moment, 243 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: and then the future possibilities that are available to you. 244 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 3: So when someone reads someone's Akashic records, you tap into 245 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,959 Speaker 3: it like you dial into like an old school radio frequency. 246 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 3: And then once you're dialed in, you can ask questions 247 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: and receive information about that person's soul and share it 248 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: with them. And trust me, like, as I'm sharing this, 249 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 3: I still, even though I've been playing with this for 250 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: five years, like it still has a surreal vibration to 251 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 3: me as well, And it's still sometimes slightly not the 252 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: most comfortable thing to talk about because it's just so 253 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: far reaching for a lot of people. 254 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: I get it right, So for people listening that might 255 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: be like, uh huh, so you're saying, basically you get 256 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 2: what I would presume or maybe downloads by tapping into 257 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 2: someone's else someone else's records, and if not, what does 258 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: that look like? Like, how does that sound? What are 259 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 2: you getting? What kind of information comes through? 260 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: So the way that is sort of easiest to play 261 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: with it would be we all have senses, right, So 262 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 3: part of our human expensive experience is that we get 263 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 3: to play with our senses. So we have taste, touch, smell, site, 264 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: and sound. Right, those are our five senses. Now, when 265 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 3: you take those five senses and you lighten them, they 266 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: become what we call Clare abilities. So the most familiar 267 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: one that people are relating to is clairvoyant, right, the 268 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 3: ability to see with your eyes closed, the ability Claire 269 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: audio is hearing when there's no sounds around. And then 270 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 3: you have Clare sentient, which is feeling, sensation and emotion. 271 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: Claire cognizance is like that inner knowing. And then so 272 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 3: we usually just put all of those into the blanket 273 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: terminology of intuition. Right when I'm working with either myself 274 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 3: working with a client, or if I'm teaching others how 275 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 3: to work with the Acashic records, the communication line between 276 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 3: the physical and the non physical realm is your senses, 277 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: which you're physical, but they become a little bit more 278 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: light and they turn into clear abilities, which then becomes 279 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 3: like the communication line between the physical and the non physical. 280 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 3: So if I'm receiving information and I'm in your records, 281 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 3: oftentimes I'll get sensation in my body. Sometimes I'll get 282 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: a visual. Now, my primary Claire is not clairvoyant, So 283 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 3: oftentimes if I'm getting strong visuals, it's because the client 284 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: that I'm working with actually strong visuals, and I'm because 285 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 3: I'm in their records. I'm perceiving their records from their viewpoint, 286 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 3: and sometimes I get it as a knowing. So how 287 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 3: I sort of play with a session is I'll take 288 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: a few minutes to ground and centrouts both I do 289 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: what I call a banishment mantra, which is basically just 290 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: clearing the static out of your space. Because we're kind 291 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 3: of valkyrie by nature and we take on a lot 292 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: of things during the day, so the banishment mantra just 293 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 3: kind of clean slates it and like the ginger after 294 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 3: the resabi, and then I have a short two or 295 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: three lines that I use to open up the records. 296 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: And what happens for me is each time I open 297 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 3: someone's records, it's everyone has their own signature. GPS signal, 298 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: so it has a slightly different sensation when I'm opening 299 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: up your records versus someone else's records versus someone else's records. 300 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: So the moment I open it, sometimes I'll get like 301 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 3: a warm sensation in my heart. Sometimes I'll get a 302 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 3: sensation of energy pulling upwards. Sometimes I'll get almost like 303 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 3: a pinching or a throbbing across the third eye. So 304 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 3: it will open from different locations, and then where it 305 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 3: opens from there's information there as to like the why right, 306 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: and some of it's very common. Like if someone opens 307 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: up right from the heart space and it's a big, 308 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 3: open hearted expression that I can feel in sense, then 309 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: this person very much is an emotional person and when 310 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 3: they're in their essence, they are operating from what feels 311 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 3: best in their heart. If I open up and I 312 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 3: get a strong sensation and tingling in the crown track 313 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 3: or chances are that person's Cleare cognisance, and Claire cognisance 314 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 3: is highly related to our intellects, and so I'll get 315 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 3: the information from that. What I'll infer from that is 316 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 3: that this individual is probably a strong intellect that has 317 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 3: a strong sense of knowing and what they may or 318 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,719 Speaker 3: may not be aware of, is that their cleare cognisance 319 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: usually comes in just slightly faster than thought. So if 320 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 3: I was to say to you, hey, do you want 321 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: to you know, check out and go to San Francisco 322 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 3: this weekend, You'll get an instant yes or an instant 323 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: note of that. And then what follows in afterwards is 324 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 3: the rational mind of, oh my god, that's ridiculous. We 325 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 3: can't actually take off. We have this, this and this 326 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: going on right. 327 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is fascinating. So everyone has some 328 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: sort of clear something and is it just that in 329 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 2: each individual we have a different signature, so some of 330 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 2: them may be stronger than others. And what this work 331 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: does is help you really kind of understand how yours 332 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:40,920 Speaker 2: works totally. 333 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: So what I'm noticing is like kind of the post 334 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: pandemic era, yeah, is that for whatever reason, veils were lifted, 335 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: things were released, and people are having more ease being 336 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 3: able to access what they couldn't access before. So prior 337 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: to pandemic, to see someone come in and be like, Okay, 338 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 3: you're super sharp clairvoyant, and it's this singular Claire that's 339 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 3: like kind of your Claire. Now, what I see almost 340 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 3: every time. So when I do in a cash training, 341 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 3: when I'm teaching people how to read the Akashik records, 342 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,199 Speaker 3: they get a Kashak record reading with me before we 343 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 3: go into the training, and in that reading, I'm identifying 344 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: what their claars are so that when we're in training, 345 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 3: I can know how best to coach and speak and 346 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 3: mentor to them based on what their players are strongest with. 347 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: But what's really interesting is that what I'm seeing is 348 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: almost everyone now is multi clare, but you'll just have 349 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: some claires that are more predominant than others. And it's 350 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 3: just like a muscle. So if you want to be 351 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 3: a stronger runner, what do you do? You hire a 352 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 3: coach and you start running and you work with your nutrition. 353 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 3: So if you want to be stronger clairvoyant, you might 354 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 3: do practices like something like a visual meditation rather than 355 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 3: a sensory meditation. You might play with increasing your daydreaming. Right, 356 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: so just allowing yourself to sit on the couch and 357 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: have a cup of tea and just let the imagination 358 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: go wild. And for many of us we block this 359 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: out because it's not a part of the responsibilities of 360 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: being an adult. But it's so signature to so many 361 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: people's essence of being in their nature is giving themselves 362 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 3: permission to daydream and visualize and imagine. Other people might 363 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 3: play with a practice like yoga nidra, which is the 364 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: yoga of sleep. So you're lying down on your back 365 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: and you're listening to an audio recording and in the 366 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 3: process of a yoga nidra, it'll have a moment where 367 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: it moves through rapid visualizations and longer visualizations. And when 368 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: you work with a yoga nidra, over time, your ability 369 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 3: to recall those images speeds up and it becomes more vivified. 370 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: So yes, everyone has them, and you can work them 371 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: and curate them if you want to. 372 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 2: What's so fascinating I have like said over and over 373 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: on this post, I'm like the pandemic was this massive 374 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: trauma that we all went through together, and I felt 375 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 2: the shift in people, like things have just been different. 376 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: I've looked at it as people became more aware of 377 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: if they were depressed, Like we just had to slow down, right, 378 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 2: So we've had to face ourselves in some capacity, way, 379 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 2: shape or form. And it felt like there were so 380 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: many different things happening too politically and just like the 381 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 2: divisiveness of our culture, and so then it was like 382 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: people seem to be seeking. I think that's how I've 383 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: said it is something seems like people are shifting. They 384 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: want to know what's going on with them, they want 385 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: to look into these healing practices. So it's so fascinating 386 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 2: to me to hear you say that you're recognizing people's 387 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: kind of awareness just opening up in general. 388 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, and same conversation, but in slightly different languaging. What 389 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: I sort of see is that, like if we rewind 390 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 3: maybe two or three hundred years ago, we had a 391 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: very strong investment in humanity to have faith and belief 392 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 3: in what we couldn't see. Now, the downside of that 393 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,400 Speaker 3: is we kind of outsourced it entirely to our religious 394 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 3: leaders and spiritual teachers, and we know the side effect 395 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: of that of how it can just be manipulated and 396 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 3: used to a disadvantage towards us. So then we abandon 397 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: it and for the last two or three hundred years, 398 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 3: we've placed all of our real estate into what we 399 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 3: call the rational realm, which is great. It gives us 400 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: the sense of control and it allows us to get 401 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 3: a lot of things done. But what people are realizing 402 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 3: is that they're missing meaning in life, and meaning comes 403 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: from the realm that's irrational. I'll call it that because 404 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 3: it is irrational. It does things that are beyond what 405 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 3: is predictable and they don't make sense. And so for 406 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 3: many of us, what we're leaning into is how can 407 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 3: we recreate the ability to trust and have faith in 408 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 3: what is irrelevant when we've been taught that when things 409 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 3: are irrational, not irrelevant, irrational, but when we're taught when 410 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: things are irrational, that we're meant to avoid them and 411 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 3: only hunt for what's rational and what's practical and what 412 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 3: makes sense. But that gives us such a domestication that 413 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 3: our wildness within us is being lost, and we need both. 414 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: We need to have our wildness. We need to have 415 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: the spontaneous way that life shows up the things that 416 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 3: are unpredictable and we can't plan for, because that's where 417 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 3: our liveness comes from. And then the domestication is great 418 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: because it allows us to have the advancements that we 419 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: do because we're not spending ten hours a day building 420 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 3: a fire and cooking. 421 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: Back right, it's so interesting too, because if you know 422 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 2: anything about astrology and my listeners, we do an astrology 423 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 2: report every month to start the month. And this ties 424 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 2: in so much with the shifts that we're seeing how 425 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 2: we were in the difference, Like we're moving into the 426 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 2: Age of Aquarius, which is all spiritual and innovative and 427 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: hoping into deeper meanings just like you're saying. And so 428 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 2: it all works together. But I love that this kind 429 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 2: of taps into your individual way to process through all 430 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 2: the changes that we're going to be making, like just 431 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 2: as a world. 432 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love how how the spider web is constantly connecting. 433 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 3: So I have a colleague that her name's Ema Done. 434 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: She's out of Australia. 435 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: Know, Emma, she's done this podcast. 436 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 3: Oh awesome. So you know that she's a huge human 437 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 3: design coach. 438 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 2: Right yes, yeah, So when I come on. 439 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 3: What's fascinating for me is when I come on to 440 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 3: her portal and I do some guest teaching in there. 441 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 3: Her clientele is all very well versed in human design. 442 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 3: And what's interesting to me is I can come in 443 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 3: and do in a kashik record reading with someone and 444 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 3: I will because I'm not human design, like I know 445 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 3: a little bit, but not for them, right yeah, And 446 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: what's fascinating is that the points that I speak to 447 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 3: line up with their human design chart, even though I 448 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: don't know what their astrology or human design chart is. 449 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, it's And it. 450 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 3: Finally explained to me why I because I love Emma 451 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 3: and every time I work with her, I get super 452 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 3: lit up. But I can't seem to get myself to 453 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 3: really get into the theory of the human design. And 454 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: then it just clicked for me. And it's because that's 455 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 3: not my method. My method is right through the Yucashic records, 456 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 3: And so you're right, it's all kind of these different 457 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 3: ways that we can play with it, but we end 458 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 3: up at the same meeting place. 459 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. I mean, that's why I love doing 460 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: this podcast, because I get to interview different facilitators of 461 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: these different things, and then the listeners get to decide 462 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 2: which way they want to go, like which one is 463 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 2: lighting them up, which one is speaking to them. And 464 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: I am one of those people that likes to dabble 465 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: in a little bit of all of it because I 466 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: think it's so fascinating and validating to me to have 467 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: the connections happen, because then it's just like, oh right, 468 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: I heard that over here and then you're saying the 469 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,439 Speaker 2: same thing. So it's very much in line with me 470 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 2: who I am all of those things altogether. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, 471 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 2: speaking of Emma, actually I listened to the podcast that 472 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 2: you did with her, and you guys were talking about 473 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: a client of yours. I thought this was really interesting 474 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 2: that it was diagnosed with ADHD, I believe, and you 475 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 2: were saying after you did a reading with him, you 476 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 2: were able to identify. No, you're just getting the pings 477 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 2: of the different players. Stop me if I'm saying this incorrectly, 478 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 2: but that was part of the way he was supposed 479 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: to get or use his intuition or move through life. 480 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 2: And it's so interesting that we as a culture will say, no, 481 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 2: something's wrong with you. You have ADHD, you need to 482 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: be on medicine. And it was really how he's supposed 483 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 2: to exist. So can you talk through a little bit 484 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 2: of why maybe these things that we perceive as negative 485 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: qualities are actually not and it could be our strongest assets. 486 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: Well, we could open up a bit of a can 487 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 3: of worms with them if we want to get into 488 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 3: like that. The why would we want to clip someone's 489 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 3: wings or pin someone down? There's a lot of I mean, 490 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: we can get into our our systems and whatnot as 491 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 3: to why that could happen. But I think what I've 492 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: seen oftentimes when yes, when someone comes in and they 493 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 3: have a history of ADHD where I've seen it, and 494 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 3: this is what I love the most, is that I 495 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: get so educated by reading other people's records because there's 496 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: a lot of things that come in ry I'm like, oh, 497 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 3: my goodness, I've never seen this before, and I just 498 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 3: start to stay with the breadcrumbs, and as I'm sharing 499 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 3: it with the individual across from me, I'm simultaneously being 500 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: educated and taught as to the other option that could 501 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: be here that we're not right. So with the ADHD 502 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: in particular, when you take that energy and you put 503 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: it into a lighter form, oftentimes what I see is 504 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: people that are presenting as a eighty on Earth. They 505 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 3: have so many different ways that they need to receive 506 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 3: information so that they can make sense of what's going 507 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 3: on and create their next steps. And so oftentimes these 508 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 3: are people that have, if you're open to it, they've 509 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,199 Speaker 3: had lifetimes on other planets where they've shown up in 510 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 3: different ways, and they've taken that intellect and that wisdom 511 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 3: teaching from that lifetime and they're bringing it into this lifetime. 512 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 3: So someone, for example, that I find when people are 513 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 3: very I call them almost like frequency based individuals. So 514 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: when I open up their records, I might see like 515 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 3: almost like color moving in a wave like form, or 516 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 3: it feels almost like a pulse, or like their essences 517 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 3: kind of slowly mean during down a river. Oftentimes these 518 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 3: individuals have had lifetimes where they've been more in formlessness 519 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: than form and so the frequency of that lifetime comes 520 00:28:55,440 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 3: into this lifetime and they're very clear, sentient, they feel 521 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 3: very much sensation that comes through. And there are oftentimes 522 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,959 Speaker 3: people that are very strong Claire audio in the sense 523 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 3: that music is an excellent way to help to open 524 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 3: up the meditation current for them. Music can take them 525 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,719 Speaker 3: to places where voice and language can't. And so frequency 526 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 3: type individuals they need to receive in a numerous different ways. 527 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: So they need to feel it, they need to hear it, 528 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: they'll know it when it comes in right. So this 529 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 3: is how the multiplayers are all coming in. And if 530 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: you take someone that learns and discovers in this way, 531 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 3: and then you strip the way that they learn a 532 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: way and pin them into a one pointed focus. It 533 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 3: doesn't work for them very well, and so in our 534 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: society it's challenging because we just have a society that's 535 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 3: so well set up for the nine to five and 536 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 3: the linear way of working right, and ADHD doesn't work 537 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 3: that way. So I mean an easy way to rather 538 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,160 Speaker 3: than trying to figure out how to incorporate them into society, 539 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 3: it's easier to medicate and make them fit the mold. 540 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 2: That makes me so sad or the opposite. 541 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 3: And this is what I this is just you know, 542 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 3: my insight is that there's a way that they communicate. Yeah, 543 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: that is beyond the advancement of where we're at. And 544 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 3: that's threatening. 545 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 2: Oh one believe that. 546 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 3: So if it's threatening, what do we want to do? 547 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: We want to shut it down? How do we control it? 548 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 3: We control it? Yeah? Now, am I totally saying that 549 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 3: there's not a time and a place for people to 550 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 3: have coping mechanisms and a way to deal totally? Absolutely, 551 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 3: But there's more options out there. And I think that 552 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: if we can start to see ADHD as as a 553 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 3: superpower rather than a hindrance, I just think that that 554 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 3: just supports people so much more in their authenticity. 555 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 2: Well, along with anything though, because like I'm a very 556 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 2: I'm a feeler, and that's the way I describe it. 557 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 2: But I'm assuming maybe that I'm very clear sentient, like 558 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: I definitely feel things of other people. I am forty 559 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 2: two and I'm just now learning wait wait, wait, this 560 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: is like literally a superpower. I can feel things when 561 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 2: I walk in a room that other people aren't identifying, 562 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: and so I'm learning, and I'm also learning what's mine 563 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 2: and what someone else is because I've just walked around 564 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: my whole life feeling like almost a crazy person some 565 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 2: days because I'm feeling so many things at so many times, 566 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: and i think that I'm sad or I'm mad or whatever, 567 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 2: and I'm like, but why doesn't makes sense? And it's 568 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 2: because it's not mine. So I'm able to right now 569 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: start to identifying what's mine and what other people's is. 570 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 2: But for so long in my life, I've been told 571 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 2: you're too much, you're too emotional, you're this, you're that like, 572 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: because people don't know how to deal with it, and 573 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: I've had to come to terms with it and go, 574 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: wait a second, I can use this and everything I'm doing. 575 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: So it's kind of sad to me, not kind of. 576 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 2: It's very sad to me, and I'm hoping this is 577 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: something that shifts in our culture too, where we're not 578 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 2: telling everyone you have like success looks like this, you 579 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: have to do things this way, fit in this box, 580 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 2: because there's absolutely no way that we can all live 581 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: in our own authenticity and operate that way like we 582 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 2: each individually have to be able to tap into our 583 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: specific players, our different purposes, all of those things, and 584 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: I actually think it would make our world work so 585 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 2: much more beautifully. 586 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, one hundred percent. I mean, this is 587 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 3: why I love the I mean, I don't have the 588 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 3: statistics on it, but women in business is exploding. And 589 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 3: it's not just because women are feeding the feminist movement 590 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 3: of you know, empowerment to do the things we want 591 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 3: to do. It's because it actually fits with our cycle 592 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: to be a female entrepreneur and be able to have 593 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 3: times of the month where you're going to go hard 594 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 3: with your extroversion and be engaging and charismatic with people. 595 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: You know, when you're in the phase of your ovulation 596 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 3: that's perfect, and then when there's times closer to your 597 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 3: cycle when you want to be more cocoon and you know, 598 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 3: maybe that's when you're creating content and writing or resting. 599 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 3: But the entrepreneurship, the self employment, it's a better fit 600 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: for women than the nine to five constructs that we 601 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: play with. Kate Northrop, I think that's her name. She 602 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: wrote a book about this, and then one that I'm 603 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: playing with most recently is that the title silly, but 604 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 3: the content's great. It's called Fast Like a Girl. And 605 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 3: I've played with intimate and fasting in the past because 606 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 3: I want to use it as a method to help 607 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: to support my spiritual practice. But I've always like lost 608 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 3: the game with it because I just can't seem to 609 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 3: do it for any longer than like a half day. 610 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: And the whole principle is that women need to fast 611 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 3: at different times in their cycle so that it's more supportive. 612 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: And there's certain times in your cycle when you should 613 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 3: not be fasting at all, and that's when you're eating 614 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: and other times in New York and when I started 615 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 3: playing with this, I'm only in like month three. It's 616 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 3: a total game changer, Kelly. And so you're right, like 617 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 3: the way that we get put into these molds and 618 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 3: how to show up. It works really well when you're 619 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 3: in corporate because the way that corporate wants to produce 620 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 3: is it wants mass production, so it wants the one 621 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 3: size fits all. But the reality is that when we 622 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: break it down and go re the individual with it, 623 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: the one size fits all doesn't work. This is why 624 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: for me with the ACASIC training, I've never written a 625 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: book or like an online course to self study on 626 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: how to read the ACAHK records because there's so many 627 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: little nuances that I do when I work with people 628 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: in the training to help to get them in to 629 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: where they want to be. And I can't tell you 630 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: how many people have like come to me and said, 631 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 3: you know, I want to do the training, but I 632 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 3: don't think I'll be able to read the records because 633 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:56,720 Speaker 3: I've tried doing it on my own and I can't 634 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 3: seem to get in. And I'm just like, well, you 635 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 3: just you haven't found the technique using the right technique. 636 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 3: So I agree one hundred percent. And it creates conflict 637 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 3: and confusion because it's a slower process to figure out 638 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 3: what needs to happen on a personalized way to make 639 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 3: it available for people. 640 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited that we're getting even having these kind 641 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: of conversations because I do think it moves us in 642 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,799 Speaker 2: that direction. There's one last thing I wanted to ask you. 643 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 2: And I find this to be such a big part 644 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 2: of any growth process, and I talk about this a 645 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: lot with my listeners, of just knowing that going through 646 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 2: this lifetime, you know there's going to be pain, and 647 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: it's not because we did something bad or wrong. It's 648 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 2: just a part of the journey. For me, It's been 649 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 2: a massive part of any sort of evolution. I don't 650 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 2: I won't change without pain. I mean, I don't think 651 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: any of us will, right. So do you have any 652 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 2: tips because I know this is a big part of 653 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 2: the work you do with your clients, But do you 654 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 2: have any tips that you would give my listeners just 655 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: of how to sit with the disc comfort. I think 656 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 2: that's also a big part of yoga that I learn 657 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: in yoga. But how do you sit with the discomfort 658 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: knowing that that is just a part of the journey 659 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: leading you to a greater version of yourself. 660 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 3: I would say that part of it is our relationship. 661 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 3: How are we relating to it? So if we're relating 662 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 3: to it from the perspective of I need to just 663 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 3: move through this thing or be able to overcome this 664 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 3: particular thing, I think it becomes even harder and more challenging. 665 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,240 Speaker 3: So the way that I play with it, and sometimes 666 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,680 Speaker 3: I'll work with people to play with it, is, whatever 667 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 3: the situation is at hand, can we take a half 668 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: step back and away from it and zoom out of 669 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 3: it so that we have other choices available to us. 670 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 3: So the more personal something is, the more narrow focus 671 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 3: we become, and we see it as this or that 672 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 3: rather than an or. Okay, now the moment we can 673 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 3: zoom out a little bit and play with it from 674 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 3: an end or perspective, Then we start to have choice. 675 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,919 Speaker 3: And when we have choice, we relax and we start 676 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 3: to feel a little bit more of a sense of freedom. 677 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 3: But on top of that, we believe our thoughts, in 678 00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: our beliefs to such a degree that they become true 679 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: for us, and simply asking the question of is that true? 680 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,280 Speaker 3: You know, the Byron Katy kind of expression is that true? 681 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,680 Speaker 3: I find that really supportive And recently I read a 682 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 3: quote just srot it down yesterday. Forgiveness is the realizing 683 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 3: that what I thought happened inn't. So we have such 684 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:42,560 Speaker 3: a layered perspective of how something went down that oftentimes 685 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: that one viewpoint is the only angle that we'll look 686 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 3: at it from, and the moment that we can just 687 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 3: shift and sit in the other person's seat or some 688 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 3: other angle to look at it from, it starts to 689 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 3: oftentimes what I find is because it's energy, and energy 690 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 3: is constantly changing. You know this. The moment that you 691 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 3: start to place your attention on something, it changes, whether 692 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 3: you want it to or not. It changes. If you 693 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,840 Speaker 3: want to place your attention onto your heart. The moment 694 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 3: you place your attention onto your heart, cells actually migrate 695 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 3: towards the heart. They start to go there and be like, ooh, 696 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,319 Speaker 3: something's happened in the heart. Let's go see what's going on. 697 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 3: And your breath is going to start to move into 698 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 3: the heart. And you haven't even given direction as to 699 00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: what you're trying to do with the heart, But simply 700 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 3: placing your attention on it changes it. It shifts it. 701 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: So when you're sitting with something that's uncomfortable or something 702 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: that's challenging, giving yourself the opportunity it's not just sitting 703 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 3: with the uncomfortableness of it, but allowing yourself to be 704 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 3: more eye to eye with it and just not doing 705 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 3: anything but watching how it changes, placing your attention on it. 706 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 2: Does that make sense? That makes total sense. That quote 707 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 2: really just rocked me because it's similar to what I 708 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 2: was saying in some ways too. If you have a 709 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 2: painful experience, I think we just want to identify them 710 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 2: as good or bad, and it's like this or that, 711 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: like you're saying, and when you can look back. I 712 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,680 Speaker 2: think this is why we always say, like we're so 713 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 2: things look different in reflection, Like when you're looking back, 714 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 2: the most painful experiences of your life end up being 715 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 2: really great ultimately probably in most cases, because they shift 716 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 2: your road, they shift the thing that wasn't working in 717 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,520 Speaker 2: your life, and you're able to open up to a 718 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 2: whole new path. Or that's been my experience. So I 719 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 2: just love that quote because it's like, yeah, when you 720 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 2: can get to forgiveness, it's when you go, oh, it 721 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 2: wasn't this or that. There's all these ann's ores up 722 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 2: in there, and it was for my high as good 723 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 2: all of it always is. I believe it. 724 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 3: Always is, and you know it. I also like to 725 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 3: just hold space for there's a difference between how is 726 00:39:55,960 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 3: this working towards my unful, my becoming, my expansion that 727 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 3: to me is different language than everything has a silver lining. 728 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 2: Oh I agree, Yes, I really believe that, like, yes, 729 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 2: there's some shit things that happen and it just sucks. Yes, 730 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 2: and that's important to feel that. 731 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah. And so when we default to the like, 732 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 3: oh well, every you know, everything has a has a 733 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: meaning and a p it just takes the energy away 734 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 3: of like what actually took place in that situation. But 735 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 3: when we can start to exactly what you're saying, when 736 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,799 Speaker 3: we can start to lean it into okay, how is 737 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 3: this working for me? And and for me, this is 738 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: like five steps. 739 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: After Oh I can't ever see this when I'm in 740 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 2: it because I need to feel the feeling and I 741 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 2: need to feel the pain and the sadness and the 742 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: anger and hatred or whatever it is. I have to 743 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 2: go through all the feelings before I can even reflect 744 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:48,839 Speaker 2: on it. 745 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I agree. So space distance actually 746 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 3: asking others for their perception, like what's your opinion? What 747 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 3: do you think happened? Is there an angle that I'm 748 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: not seeing? Is there a blind spot that I don't 749 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 3: have here? Like, don't underestimate the power of someone else 750 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 3: being the eyes and the voice of God for you 751 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 3: in that moment. It doesn't always have to go up 752 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 3: into the ethers. It can be directly across from you 753 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 3: at any moment. 754 00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: I love that well, Heather. If listeners are interested in 755 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 2: working with you or just following along with the kind 756 00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 2: of work that you do, where would they find you. 757 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 3: Easiest way to get in touch with me is just 758 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 3: to go to my website. It's it's my name, Heather 759 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: iv any i v A n Y dot com and 760 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 3: there's everything available to you there. So if you just 761 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 3: want more experience of me with no strings attached, there's 762 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: lots of free options there. I have programs and retreats. 763 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 3: I have a retreat coming up this November in Mexico. 764 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 3: So if people are just looking for a real experience 765 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: of consciousness, not just a conversation of it, that's what 766 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 3: my retreats are for. So yeah, lots of. 767 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 2: All I'll put that and also your social media in 768 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 2: case anyone wants to follow along on there. In the 769 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,560 Speaker 2: description of this podcast, thank you so much for this 770 00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,600 Speaker 2: conversation and just for being here with us. 771 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 3: Thanks for having me Kelly. It was a pleasure. 772 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 2: Thank you guys for listening. 773 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, 774 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet in a 775 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty 776 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: and relationships. Search Velvet's Edge wherever you get your podcasts.