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Speaker 1: we're so excited. It's our it's our last show at

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Speaker 1: of it. Hello. My name is Caitlin. My name is Jamie,

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Speaker 1: and we talk about the representation of women in movies

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Speaker 1: on our podcast that you're watching right now. Five. You

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Speaker 1: If you've listened to the podcast before, Oh nice. Remember

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Speaker 1: our first live show and everyone was like, where are we?

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Speaker 1: Um and um no no shame. Clap If you have

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Speaker 1: not heard the show before, did anyone come with a friend? OK? Welcome, Hi,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming. Brave, very very brave, you say, brave

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Speaker 1: shop until tonight. And now you're here and we're going

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Speaker 1: to fix you. Okay, so just out of curiosity, today's

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Speaker 1: movie is Home Alone. We've seen it, clap. Has anyone

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Speaker 1: it before? Okay, I'm a dumbass, thank you? All right?

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Speaker 1: I mean I think we can both agree. I read

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Speaker 1: but to join us in that discussion, We've got a guess,

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Speaker 1: as we always do. She's a writer. She's the host

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Speaker 1: of the Treso Talk podcast Give it up for tam

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Speaker 1: something really terrible and embarrassing the other day. I peed

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Speaker 1: why can't Well, I guess I don't know. I just

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Speaker 1: I felt like a business job, and a business job. Yeah. Sure.

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00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: The dad was a total schmuck too, he was Yeah,

421
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: I think that he was like I I think that

422
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: he may have worked, he may have had a job,

423
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: but I don't think he was on her level. And

424
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 1: I would bet that her family was like, are you

425
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: sure about Peter? I thought that too, right, and then

426
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 1: she was like, well, he's inheriting this really nice house.

427
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 1: I had all these rewatched it. It almost feels the

428
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: way my family thinks about my husband who's a musician. Oh,

429
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 1: like are you are you sure? And you're like, but

430
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: it's for love, and they're like, what is it? But

431
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: it allows me to run the household, right, It's exciting,

432
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: it's great. I love to dominate. I think the bad

433
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: that's how you exert dominance over your households. It was

434
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: just one of the guess who's that that's terrifying. I'm

435
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna come on the defense of Kevin's dad hanging out. Okay, So,

436
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: a lot of movies, especially of this era, and especially

437
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: in this genre, if they're framing like a family unit

438
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: like this, they're subscribing to a lot of tropes, and

439
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: the tropes are usually that it's like a shrewy cartoonishly

440
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: uptight mom and then a very doofy dad. I felt

441
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: neither of those stereotypes were really played too in this movie.

442
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 1: I felt that the dad was actually like very supportive

443
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: of his wife. Yeah, and it seems that they had

444
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,760
Speaker 1: an equal parenting relationship. It seems like they were both

445
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: doing a lot. Well, you know, someone's got to pay

446
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: for the pizza, right, But like the two of them

447
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: seem too. I mean, in the few scenes we see

448
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: them parenting and not dwelling on their failure of parenting,

449
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: it seems like it's kind of and and they have

450
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: four kids, um, and it seems like they're they're they're

451
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 1: splitting their responsibilities. Is it four? Is if? Is there

452
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: another one? Might be? Oh wait, because there's little Karen

453
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: Coulkin too, but he's one of the cousins. He's a cousin.

454
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: But there's like I think the eldest daughter is maybe

455
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 1: two sisters, two brothers. That was my way to let

456
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: me check. I am dB production. There are eleven kids

457
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: total in the household between the two families. But if

458
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: there's only four kids in the McAlister unit, there is five.

459
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: There's Jeff McAllister, Kevin's elder brother, Megan McAllister, Kevin's eldest sister,

460
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 1: Buzz the older brother, and then Lenny. So there's five

461
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: kids and then the Callister family. I would forget one

462
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: every time I left, Honestly, anyone who's coming down too

463
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 1: hard on Kate and Peter consider right. I mean so

464
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 1: like the way that they're acting towards Kevin in the

465
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: very beginning, where they're like shut up, just like do

466
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: what you're told, and dada, like they're frantic they're dealing

467
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: with there's eleven children in their house. I would have

468
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: be having a meltdown. But I think that whenever when

469
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: like they're like on the flight to their trip, the

470
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 1: chaos has died down and his mom is like I

471
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: can't not do it. Um She's like I can't help

472
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: but feel like I forgot something. And I feel like

473
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: the dad could have been at least favorite son. He

474
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: went through Like I feel like in a lot of movies,

475
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: the dad would be like, oh, you're overreacting, like just relax,

476
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: like everything's fine, but he's like, well, let's go through

477
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: this was it. The coffee machine was at the door,

478
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: like he was always like very supportive and like he

479
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: never like belittle her or undermined her. And yeah, I

480
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: really liked it. Good people. Yeah, I really do think

481
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 1: they were good. I don't know, I was very sympathetic

482
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: with them the whole time. And I also felt like

483
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: the opening sequence where like Kevin is being talked down

484
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: to and kind of like dumped on by his family,

485
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: it's like a little over the top, but I feel

486
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: like that's almost written to be from his perspective that

487
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: when you're a little kid, you think like I, I

488
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: was from like a big family too, and you always

489
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: feel like no one likes me. I don't get the

490
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: attention I deserved. My parents don't want to talk to

491
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: me because there are too many other kids around. Like

492
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: I feel like that it's just like heightening, you know that,

493
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: like Kevin is like lost in this mix of kids

494
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: and he doesn't really fit anywhere because he's not Tarantula

495
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: kid yet the kid we all aspire to me. He

496
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: was the creative if you think about it, like he

497
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: was like the you know, he was kind of a

498
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: child prodigy, Like who does all the like the talk

499
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: are in the feathers and I mean, yeah, he's a mastermind.

500
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: He's an engineer, a little boy in stem if you will,

501
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: he does the whole thing where there's explosives. Yeah, where

502
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: who tied him that? Buzz? Will you steal the firecrackers

503
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: from buzzes like porn stash area. Buzz reminds me of

504
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: Sid from Toy Store. Yeah, you're like, oh another Tally

505
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: Kid the movie that has a different character named Buzz

506
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: in it the connections. Oh wait, no, it's Buzz, Like

507
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't think it was the dog because that would

508
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: just happenes. Holy sh it, I think I'm sick. Okay,

509
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: I think Buzz and Sid or both grow up to

510
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: be the feminists. Okay, okay, we can talk about Buzz

511
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: for a second. Buzz at eleven doesn't have the best

512
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: few of women yet. Can I tell you a fact

513
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: I've read? Yes, you know how. At one point, Kevin

514
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: pulls out a picture of Buzz's girlfriends. Yes, that's the

515
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: director wearing a wig because he is crazy. He's Columbus

516
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: in a whig. He didn't want to make fun of

517
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: women's looks. That he's kind of endearing. Is this movie

518
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: a gift from the heavens? That's like such a that's

519
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: a very round about sweet thing to do is like,

520
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: I don't want any like young girl to feel like

521
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: she's weird looking. You know what's weird looking me? Because

522
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 1: because Kevin sees the picture and he's like, oh, Buzzer's

523
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: girlfriend Wolf. Yeah, I don't hate it. There's I told

524
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: you guys, there's a lot of attourney. We'll be here

525
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: until six am. This is a sleepover. That's why we

526
00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: were wearing pajamas. No, well, Buzz, you know, Buzz says

527
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: some he has his California girl posters, his his babe

528
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: posters of the era. You can tell he's a horny

529
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: young man that doesn't quite understand how to speak of

530
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: women respectfully. We get the feeling he's being raised by

531
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,280
Speaker 1: a strong woman. She'll catch on when she has time

532
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 1: she has and be like, hey, let's you know, let's

533
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: have a discussion, and then she'll give him a rock

534
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,320
Speaker 1: sand gay book. Right but right now, he says, is

535
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: it true that French babes don't shave their pits? And

536
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: he's grossed out by women's body hair fuzz uh. And

537
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: then he's like, Francis nude beaches, right, And then they're like,

538
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: it's winter he's like Tarantula's Oh my god, he's just

539
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,399
Speaker 1: you know. I like to imagine the buzz Later goes

540
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 1: on a journey and you know, discovers some good literature

541
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: and really gets zack together. It was his friends from

542
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: school that we're influencing him. To me, Yeah, is the

543
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: letterman jacket all the time, And they got that Playboy

544
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: magazine for him. Well, I don't think Peter's hoarding those

545
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,799
Speaker 1: unless but unless he we don't know. We don't know.

546
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,800
Speaker 1: What I think is buzz Later writes a blog post

547
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 1: when blogs exist, so when he's like in his late twenties,

548
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: he writes a blog post. It's like letter to my

549
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,280
Speaker 1: younger self. And then he writes about all the toxic

550
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: things he learned as a child, and he apologizes to

551
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: all the California babes. I hope that happened there. I

552
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 1: think that they're what we're learning is there's so few

553
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: female characters to talk about that we're just head cannoning

554
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,839
Speaker 1: all the children. Well there's I think there's a little

555
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: bit more to talk about with Kevin's his mom, with Kate. Yeah,

556
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: of course, I forgot how much we cut back to

557
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: the family. Like I remember the Kevin thing happening on

558
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: the airplane, but I didn't quite remember, like how often

559
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: we cut back to her, like desperately trying to figure

560
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: out a way to get home. Very active, very active.

561
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: She's like delegating tasks, she's getting ship done. She's like

562
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 1: negotiating with people, whether it's like people work at the

563
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: airlines or like other customers who were like I will

564
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: give you five dollars, I'll give you all the jewelry

565
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 1: off my body, like take everything. I just I'm trying

566
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 1: to get home. So she's like doing stuff Like I

567
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: think she's easily a far more memorable character than the Dad,

568
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: who for sure no one remember. I mean maybe some

569
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: people remember the Dad, but like he and I think

570
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: that a lesser movie would have given all these tasks

571
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: to there, or at least some of the more active

572
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: tasks to the dad, where it's like I feel like

573
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: she is responding to like the maternal instinct, which is like,

574
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: you know, rooted in some truth and can sometimes be

575
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: used as a more trophy thing for a movie, but

576
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: in this movie it makes sense. The dad is supportive

577
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: of it every step of the way. But there is

578
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: that one moment where like she's at the airport and

579
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: she's like, I forgot my son at home, and he's like, well,

580
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: let's just go to Paris and see what happens. Then

581
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, One thing I found weird is when

582
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: they arrive at Paris, she she calls the cops back

583
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: in Chicago and she says, my son is home alone.

584
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: My son is home alone. But she doesn't say I

585
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: forgot my son at home. True, that was a red

586
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 1: flag that she didn't hold herself accountable for her mistake.

587
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: And then the cops says, oh, this woman's hyper. Yeah.

588
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: Well I thought that that was interesting too, because I'm like,

589
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: would they have acted that way if it was the

590
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: dad calling They men are called hyper a lot, so

591
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean she should have said, you know, like admitted, listen,

592
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: I forgot about my son and I'm in France. That's

593
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: a bad look, but you got to say it. The

594
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: cops would have gone to the house, right. This is

595
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: all of a labyrinth of pustle pieces that But I

596
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: was very impressive, Like, she is very active. She is clearly,

597
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: you know, thinking smart in the moment, she's thinking strategically.

598
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: It's a very survival based I don't know I think

599
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: that my impression of this movie, or like just like

600
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: what I'd collected over the years, was that his parents

601
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: were like incredibly careless and stupid. But that wasn't what

602
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: I felt watching it, Like, this is just very unfortunate

603
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: for this billionaire family. It's too bad. The other thing

604
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: I found a bit surprising was that because so many movies,

605
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: especially ones that like have a young boy as the

606
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: lead character, the main relationship that will be focused on

607
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: in the movie would be a father son relationship, and

608
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 1: then this movie, it's far more focused on the mother

609
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: son relationship. Were Like that scene with him and Catherine

610
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: O'Hara at the end is so sweet, and I feel

611
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: like it's so well done by Katherine O'Hara because you

612
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: can see she's like, please don't remember this too much,

613
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: you know, and she loves him so much, and it's

614
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: it warmed in my heart. I have another weird factoid.

615
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: Macauley Culkin still calls her mom in real life weird.

616
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: Yeah is it Weird's not nice? It's weird. Well, I

617
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's something. Wow, they bonded, so if

618
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 1: no stue, wait you're telling me Macaulay Culkin thirty nine

619
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: years old, goes on the set of Ship's Creek just

620
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:41,959
Speaker 1: to scream, and he says, Mom, Katherine O'Hara looks happen

621
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: is like what I'd like to think. This is exactly

622
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: what happened. I hope this happens all. I hope he

623
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: drops in constantly. He just calls to say mom and ing.

624
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: So that that is very I mean, he is so

625
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: little in this movie, like it's man and and like

626
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: so I mean it's this is not a hot take.

627
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: He's very talented. He's so good. I was getting I

628
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,720
Speaker 1: saw Jojo Rabbit recently, and the kid and Jojo Rabbit

629
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: reminds me a lot of mcaulay culkin in the same

630
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: like we're like, wow, this kid's really got something kind

631
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 1: of way, but like he's so talented, especially because it's

632
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: like a kid having to like carry an entire movie.

633
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: It's no easy to see. Yeah, and like really the

634
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: only thing they had to go. He was in a

635
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: different John Hughes movie. He was an Uncle Buck in

636
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: like a pretty small role. And I guess I read

637
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,399
Speaker 1: there was a If you love this movie and are

638
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: interested in the production of it, there's a really good

639
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: oral history of it that was like collected by John

640
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 1: Hughes's son that like he just talked to everyone who

641
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: made the movie, and I guess that they auditioned like

642
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: three million. It was a lot of kids, and like

643
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: John Hughes, who like I feel like I listened to

644
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: our other episodes about John Hughes movies because we don't

645
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 1: love him, but like, for the purposes of this movie,

646
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: I don't really care. Yeah, he was like, it's got

647
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: to be Macaulay Culkin and Chris Columbus was like, let's see,

648
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: let's see what these other tip tapping boys yet, and

649
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: then it still ended up being him because he was

650
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 1: that good. Was this his like breakout? I think, I think,

651
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was like this was his first starring

652
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: like starring starring role, and then we get other classics

653
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: like the Page Mask, Stage Master and My Girl came later. Yes,

654
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years after that, he's a start. He's

655
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: a star and he calls Cathine o'harah mom, he's a star.

656
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I love it. I love it. He's great. Um.

657
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about the things

658
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: that Kevin decides to do while he has no parental supervision.

659
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: At first, he's doing like normal kids stuff, like he's

660
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 1: jumping on the bed, he's eating junk food, stuff like that.

661
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 1: But then over the span of I suppose a day

662
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: or so, he comes of age. I don't know what happens,

663
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: but he's like, I have to go out and buy

664
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: a toothbrush and I have to make sure it's been

665
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,880
Speaker 1: approved by the American Dental Association. And also I have

666
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: to go buy groceries and use a coupon while I'm

667
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 1: doing that. And then he does laundry, and then he

668
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: washes the dishes. He does all these domestic domestics that

669
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 1: we never see boys or men do in movies. Well,

670
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: those are only relegated to girls, and it's not made

671
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,399
Speaker 1: to be a joke. And he's just like, I'm I'm

672
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: in charge of the house. This is what I do.

673
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: But then there's also this weird thing where he's like, oh,

674
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm the man of the house. Now, it's ridiculous for

675
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 1: me to be scared. I have to protect my domain.

676
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: And okay, cut yourself, yeah, cut yourself a break. You're

677
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: eight years old and Joe Pesci is trying to kill you.

678
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: My dream waste kidding. He overcomes a fear of the

679
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: furnace too. He does, but he really does because the

680
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: furnace talks to him at the beginning, and then he

681
00:43:08,719 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 1: stops talking. He's scared. I was also scared of that

682
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: furnace when I was a kid. It's very scary. You

683
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: would have been scared. Yeah, I didn't even register that

684
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: is as him doing you know, traditionally feminine tasks. But

685
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 1: he's just like, I'm there, and he has like this

686
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 1: very kind of sweet allegiance to the house. He's like,

687
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: I gotta protect the house. I gonna do. It's like

688
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: this combination of like traditionally masculine and feminine trips that

689
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: are all sort of similarly. To defend his house, he

690
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 1: uses a mix of household appliances like an iron and

691
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: feathers and what are what do they do those mannequins

692
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: and feathers? Why were there mannequins in the basey my

693
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: head Cannon is that Katherine O Harri's character is the

694
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: breadwinner of the family and she's like a very successful

695
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: fashion designer. That's what I choose to believe. I like

696
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: to think that Peter likes mannis That's my opinion. Yeah,

697
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: he uses a mix of like household items and also

698
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: like a BB gun and a like blowtorch kind of thing. Um,

699
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 1: he's doing it all. There's that moment where the bags

700
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: break while he's walking, while he's walking with the groceries. Yeah, yeah,

701
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: and while rewatching it. That scene got me because I

702
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: have a frustration of errands and just lifting, as we

703
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,000
Speaker 1: all do. But that really I related. Yeah, he knows

704
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: what it's like to the grind the grind. One thing

705
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: I felt was missing from the movie is there is

706
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: no cleaning up montage at the end after the burglars

707
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: have been arrested, because how there's tar, there's a glue.

708
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: Weird to believe Kevin cleaned that all up, cleaned it

709
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: all up by himself and put out milk and cookies

710
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: and put like put up the tree, did the stockings,

711
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff it could, But I would have liked

712
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: to see the cleaning montage that Kevin did though. I

713
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: think that was an important thing that we missed. Old

714
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,280
Speaker 1: Man Marley helped him for sure, but then at that

715
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: that increases the secret also of like let's make sure

716
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: there's no trace right there. It's so weird. One thing

717
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: that I mean this is so there's so little to

718
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: talk about it in the way, but Kevin has two sisters. Yes,

719
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 1: they shifted on him relentlessly. I liked that in this

720
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 1: montage of like just every kid in the house is

721
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: like Kevin's a loser, he sucks. There was, you know,

722
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: no discrimination in terms of gender, in terms of who

723
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: thinks Kevin sucks. Because I feel like, you know, a

724
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: lesser movie would be like, you know, would have like

725
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 1: female children be like no, it's but everyone's just like

726
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: fuck you, Kevin, You're You're the worst piece of ship

727
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: and he's like, wow, did just you know? So I

728
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: liked and I I felt that the girls were given

729
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: the superior burns. Yes, what's up with that classy burn?

730
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 1: She's educated surrealist burn. Yeah, I don't know what what

731
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: why that though? That that choice, I'm like, oh, she's

732
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: she read you know, three pages of a like. Um.

733
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 1: So I liked. I mean, obviously I wish that there

734
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: were more and the choice of a big brother over

735
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: a big sister, you know, that's you can kind of

736
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: make it that way you will, But I did like

737
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: that it was an equal opportunity dump on Kevin montage

738
00:46:54,840 --> 00:47:02,879
Speaker 1: at the top, I appreciated that. I want to talk

739
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: a little bit about other comparable movies of this era,

740
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: like late eighties into the nineties, the like children and

741
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 1: family movies from this time because of the popular ones

742
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: that are still remembered and beloved. Most of them are

743
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: very male driven stories. Most of them have male protagonists,

744
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 1: including I think holiday movies in generalists, well, I would

745
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 1: say so for sure, yes, and just all movies, but

746
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: it extends to children and family movies as well. Unfortunate

747
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: as that is, uh so, movies like Home Alone, Hook,

748
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: Teenage Mutant, Inta, Turtles, The sand Lot, The Mighty Ducks.

749
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of sports movies like Space Jam, Little Giants.

750
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: There was Free Willie and we don't know if Willie

751
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: does Willie identify? I don't know if I gendered Willie?

752
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: Does anyone know? ORCA will cover it? But like Little Ras, Heavyweights,

753
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: a goofy movie, an extremely goofy movie. Are those cartoons

754
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 1: you haven't seen? You haven't seen a goofy movie. I

755
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: feel like you would really love it. Goofy scares me

756
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 1: a little bit. Really Yeah, I don't like him. He

757
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: gives me Anxietyfy you know how to skip it? I'll

758
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: watch it for you. So you know, there's all these

759
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: beloved movies from this era, but so many of them

760
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: are just like very male driven. Of the like ones

761
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: that are more female driven, they're kind of few and

762
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,760
Speaker 1: far between. There are things like Matilda, Harriet the Spy.

763
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: Those I mean, those are the two that people normally

764
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 1: sit and those are like two little white girls too.

765
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 1: Family and you know, like we talked about this a

766
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: lot when it comes to like family and teen movies specifically,

767
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 1: where there's a giant class gap and most teen or

768
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 1: family movies don't work if the families are not upper

769
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: middle class at least, like, yeah, there's a huge gap

770
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: in representation. And I mean all entertainment, but like family

771
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: entertainment especially for sure. And then just a couple other ones.

772
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: There's you know, things like hocus Pocus or The Witches

773
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: because women be witches. Or there's like princess movies like

774
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: Beauty the Beasts, Little Mermaid, Little Princess Anastasia because women

775
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: be princesses. So you know, there's a much like narrower

776
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: idea of like what female characters are allowed to be

777
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 1: at the helm of of a female driven family children

778
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: family movie whereas like ones that star boys or men

779
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: are allowed to like you know, be swashbucklers and adventurers

780
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 1: and like or athletes, uh you know, all all kinds

781
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: of different stuff. And again that always goes back to

782
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: like who is behind the camera, who is working on

783
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: the movies, because there is not a woman to be

784
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: found in the like primary production trade for Home Alone,

785
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: which I'm sure comes as a surprise to basically no one,

786
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: but you know, it's directed by Chris Columbus, written and

787
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: produced by John Hughes, who has a socio history on

788
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: his portrayed all the female characters at all, and this

789
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: he opts for nothing, uh you know. And and so

790
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: something that like we try to touch on as well

791
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,360
Speaker 1: is that, you know, normally, if there's a problem in

792
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: front of the cameras, because there's also a problem behind it,

793
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 1: because like Kevin could very easily have been a girl,

794
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: like there's nothing, which is kind of a cool thing

795
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: in the writing too, because he doesn't really strike you

796
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: as like a kid that is like curdling under toxic masculinity.

797
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 1: You know, it could very easily be a little girl

798
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 1: what's really kind of sucked up to It's like the

799
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:57,080
Speaker 1: thieves at one point don't care about money anymore. Is

800
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: they're just trying to kill a kid? Right? Okay, can

801
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: we talk about Joe Pesh Now? Can you tell me

802
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 1: about I have a third factory. We I've already told

803
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: the two of you. Joe Pesci is a fucking method

804
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: actor on this movie. So he got so into the

805
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: role that he didn't talk to macauley unless it was

806
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: the camera was rolling, and he bit his fucking finger

807
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: to the bone during one of the scenes. Yeah, he

808
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: got that into the role that he fully chewed his flesh.

809
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, can you I leave Joe PESHI? I

810
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: thought this was raging bull his Chindler's like I can't.

811
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: It's it boggles the mind, Like I'm going to get

812
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: an oscar for this, Like what was he? Like? What

813
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 1: is the motivation? Like I feel like every time someone

814
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,399
Speaker 1: goes method, which I hate, I think it's the most

815
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: annoying thing. And it's always men, And it's always men

816
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: who just are already obnoxious and want to be obnoxious

817
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: and get paid for it. Like it's just anything besides

818
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,759
Speaker 1: some choice. Daniel tay Lewis. But like, but like the

819
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 1: whole documentary about like I'm Jim Carey and I want

820
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 1: to be annoying at being You're like, fuck you, fuck

821
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:31,439
Speaker 1: you because with I'm like getting lightheaded thinking it makes

822
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: me yes. But it's like women, It's very hard to

823
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,760
Speaker 1: find an example of a female actor of any amount

824
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: of fame going method because there is a huge stigma

825
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: of women being divas and women acting unprofessional when that

826
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: is method acting is being unprofessional and being hailed as

827
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: a fucking genius for it. They hate people. I hate people,

828
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 1: but I do think it's really funny that Joe. Well,

829
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: here's what kills me is that I have Joe Pesci

830
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: on a pedestal, and now the pedestal has been rocked

831
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 1: to the ground and Joe Pesci's on fallen. One other

832
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: thing is I used to love the idea that Joe

833
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: Pesci is a singer, but I never heard his music

834
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: until I was taking a bath before coming to this

835
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: what I had a full panic attack. He sounds like

836
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: it's like this, Oh, oh, I love you little Baby.

837
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: I swear yeah. The song his latest release is called

838
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 1: like Little Baby. Where did it come out? In Spotify?

839
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: He's a singer off a Little Baby. It's like it's

840
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: like my my little baby. I don't know, it's something

841
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:55,960
Speaker 1: with the word baby. Okay, that's from right there. I

842
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: need to teach a college course on Joe Pesci dissertation. Well,

843
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 1: there were times in the movie where I was like

844
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: finding myself almost on the burglar's side because getting back

845
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: to the like extreme like wealth and upper middle classness

846
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: of this movie, I'm like, they should steal from the

847
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: rich and redistribute their wealth. So I was like, no,

848
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: this is child I I found it very disturbed. I mean,

849
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: I know that it's critical for the movie to work,

850
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 1: but the amount of like it almost begins to look

851
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 1: kinky for them, like how much they love being like

852
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: just physically they're destroyed, destroyed like would have killed them

853
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: a million times. They like concussions. They would have died

854
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: on the steps. I mean, Joe Pecchi has like third

855
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: degree burns on his head and hand, and he's like,

856
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to steal this VCR if it kills me,

857
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 1: it's good. When did I already say that? When he

858
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 1: rubs the house before, they don't even care about robbing it.

859
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,959
Speaker 1: He's looking at a collection. Yeah, it's called baby Girl.

860
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: It's baby Girl. It's called pay It. It came out,

861
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it literally came out last week, the

862
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: world premiere. We may be the first prepared. Oh goody,

863
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: the interest very latin. What if I take off all

864
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: my clothes. I'm wearing like glitter all over my body

865
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: with a picture of Joe Pesci on my bush? We're

866
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: now with me. I know what to say, but every chip,

867
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:51,720
Speaker 1: what is this? What is it going for? I don't

868
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: know if I told you, I don't. I don't like

869
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 1: him anymore. Oh my god, guys, I'm gonna start jerking off,

870
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: starting to feel horny? Are you horny? I'm kind of horny. Well, well,

871
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:22,839
Speaker 1: before we get like sued for copyright infringement, what if

872
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: Joe Pesci literally sued us? That would be the best

873
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 1: press we've ever gotten. True, that Joe Pesci sues feminist

874
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: podcast would be a burn for us and keep it going.

875
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 1: What if he was backstage and I plotted this whole

876
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: thing and he's my dad. My name's Tomorrow Peshi. God,

877
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: that's long time. I Joe Peshi does a good job

878
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 1: in this movie? Does he do biting a finger to

879
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: the own baby girl job? We don't know? Should we

880
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: talk about Daniel Stern A little bit the other one

881
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 1: do you have? He's the narrator. There's the thing about him.

882
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: He's the narrator for the wonder years. Oh I'm smart,

883
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: you are thank you every year? A k A. I

884
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: read a buzz feedway before doing this. That's it about him.

885
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's not much. He contributed a lot to

886
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: the Oral History, which indicated to me that he doesn't

887
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: have anything going on because because it said Joe Pesci

888
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: couldn't be reached, I know, it's not great something. I mean,

889
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: this has nothing to do with women or their portrayal.

890
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: But ei there were some things about this oral History

891
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: that I thought were interesting or charming. So one thing

892
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: that so this was one of Chris Columbus is I

893
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: think one of his maybe one of his first movies

894
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: that he directed. Previously written Grandmans and the Goonies, so

895
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: he had a lot of you know, considered eighties classics

896
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: under his belt. Uh, and then he goes on to

897
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: be kind of a famous children's movie director, specifically because

898
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: he directs the first two Harry Potter movies. Anyways, so

899
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 1: I guess that he and John Hughes have been trying

900
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: to work together for a while. Uh, and Chris Columbus

901
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: almost directed National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, which we will probably

902
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: cover at some point because it's but then, okay, here's

903
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 1: it's just a quote about the time that Chris Columbus

904
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: met Chevy Chase and was afraid of him. So quote,

905
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: I went on to dinner with Chevy Chase. To be

906
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 1: completely honest, Chevy treated me like dirt, but I stuck

907
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,480
Speaker 1: it out and even went so far as to shoot

908
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,000
Speaker 1: a few scenes with him. So basically, he says that

909
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 1: chevy Chase verbally abused Chris Columbus into quitting what would

910
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: have been a huge break in his career when he

911
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh he's Chevy Chase, known for being a dick.

912
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I had no idea. Yeah, I guess

913
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 1: he's just like a vile man. Is a really bad guy.

914
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 1: That's I think that's why you got kicked off community too.

915
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 1: It's just because he was just such a horror to

916
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: be around. Is the street chevy Chase named after? I

917
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,480
Speaker 1: wonder this often? Could that possibly be true? Is there

918
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: another chevy Chase? Does anyone remember him now? I mean

919
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 1: like I think we do, But like what does a

920
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: teenager know who Chevy chases? It seems impossible. I feel

921
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,800
Speaker 1: like community like but no, he's on it for a while.

922
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: How long he's in? Like four? He's forced? Oh wow,

923
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,800
Speaker 1: he got stands in the front row? Was he in

924
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: the Three Amigos? He was? Is that movie good? My

925
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: husband loves people love it and I'm sorry, but you're wrong.

926
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 1: I hate that movie so much. Isn't like Donald Duck

927
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: in that movie? Not to digress too much, Oh, I

928
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: don't know. You know, there's a different version of the

929
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: three Now, that's the Three Cabanerros. That's what I'm thinking

930
01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: about and his various friends. Good call. I've recently decided

931
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: that I think that Donald Duck style nudity is the

932
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: funniest style. I'm attracted to him. I think that I

933
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,480
Speaker 1: think that Donald. Yeah, I'm just like you go for it.

934
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: Just a crop top in like his duck penis. And

935
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,880
Speaker 1: again it's gender neutral because Daisy does the same thing. Yeah.

936
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: I love no pants cartoon. Another no pants cartoon is,

937
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: of course Paddington. Paddington wears a coat, but but it's

938
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: decent enough to cover most of American cartoons. Their commando.

939
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of Paddington, Kevin's dad is wearing a Paddington like

940
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: duffle coat throughout the movie. It is it's the wrong color,

941
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: it's tan, but it otherwise is it's it's Paddington's coat,

942
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: its different color. All for Molina couldn't play Kevin McAllister,

943
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: Oh my god, imagine with a blonde wig. Tell me

944
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:12,919
Speaker 1: you couldn't do it? Before we devolve into this into

945
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: the ground, do you just have one actual last point

946
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: to make sure. And it's just kind of tapping back

947
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: into the discussion of family movies, especially of this era

948
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: and even to some extent today, just so much focus

949
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: on a white nuclear family unit, both parents, hetero, still together,

950
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,680
Speaker 1: still married, parents with white collar jobs, upper middle class

951
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: living in suburban America, especially for like holiday movies I

952
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 1: focus on like Christian Christmas. I mean, I think it

953
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,200
Speaker 1: just goes back to the whole like family teen movie

954
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 1: thing too, where it's just like so few movies even

955
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: attempt to address anybody else because it's just like the

956
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: assumption that that is first the norm, which isn't, and

957
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 1: second that that is like the only thing people are

958
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:05,640
Speaker 1: interested in seeing, which it isn't. But everyone who makes

959
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 1: this movie is from that background, and so they you know,

960
01:02:09,240 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: the problem because those are also the people who are

961
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: privileged enough to like make movies and like have funding

962
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: to like be in charge of getting movies made and

963
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I mean, like even like I lived

964
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: in like in like a blue collar family, rural you know,

965
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 1: like working class family. Um, and I almost never saw

966
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: myself represented in any family movies when I was growing up. Um,

967
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 1: and that like folks with kids, yea one thing I felt.

968
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: I remember feeling this as a kid when it came out.

969
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: I was living in Argentina, where I was born, and

970
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: we were really poor, and I remember being really mad

971
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 1: at Kevin for missing the vacation, right the same way.

972
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:01,120
Speaker 1: This is a different movie, but the same way I

973
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: was mad at the Little Mermaid for not enjoying like

974
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: her sea royalty and wanting to like be sure, you know,

975
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: missing the concert because I was just like, you have

976
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: moving and we didn't have money, and I was like,

977
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 1: enjoy your fucking trip to Paris. Yeah that's but yeah,

978
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: yeah they don't. They don't appreciate their wealth when they

979
01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 1: have it. But stopped playing with like popcorn or whatever

980
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 1: he was playing, like go like Hug your parents and

981
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: be happy. Let's get it together. Jesup, come on. I

982
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: mean it goes without saying that families of color, poor families,

983
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: working class families, uh, you know, kids with disabilities, queer kids.

984
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: I mean still, it's very, very very rare to see.

985
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: And it's also I think like worth mentioning that when

986
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: families that are not the ones that you just described

987
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: are shown, it's often portrayed as tragic or lesser and

988
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: it's not portrayed and it's and it's that sucks because

989
01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: it's like when you when you grow up in a

990
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,479
Speaker 1: family that's different than Kevin McAllister's family, you still have fun,

991
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: you still enjoy, you know, and it's like it's not perfect.

992
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 1: It's it's different and there's different setbacks that you can

993
01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: portray in a movie. But it doesn't need to be

994
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:23,320
Speaker 1: like sad Violin over. You know, a family that like

995
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,080
Speaker 1: this is their life, and so it would be it

996
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: would be good to see more family movies that don't

997
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 1: just portray families that are not upper middle class white people.

998
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: But it's also just like portraying this a is like

999
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: this is a normal thing, and like this is like

1000
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: families can be very happy. Um, when they're not upper

1001
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: middle class white people living at the suburbs of Chicago,

1002
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 1: you know for sure. Um. One thing I'll say that

1003
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 1: I think is a positive for this movie is it's

1004
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: an original story that was because I feel like we're

1005
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 1: like in this weird age of movies where like original

1006
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: stories getting funding are less and less and less. Everything

1007
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: is franchise and all that ship. But this is an

1008
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 1: original story that like Super Super paid off, where this

1009
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 1: movie had an eighteen million dollar budget and it made

1010
01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: four hundred seventy six million dollars and they I didn't

1011
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: realize how huge this movie was when it came out,

1012
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: but it's the top grossing movie of nine it out

1013
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 1: earned good fellows. Take that Pesci. Maybe he was right.

1014
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,240
Speaker 1: Pesci owned Pesci, you know, like he maybe he was

1015
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: right to chew through that finger. How much did Pesci

1016
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: make for Home alone? Oh, good question, bault Park. I'm

1017
01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: gonna say, what was the total? Eighteen million? Eighteen million? Yeah?

1018
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: Did Pesci make a million? No? That's crazy, that's too

1019
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: Oh there's a disagreement, gentlemen. I feel like, well, who's

1020
01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: the most famous movie person in this movie? At the time.

1021
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's Joe p She because he was

1022
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,680
Speaker 1: in Raging Ball who came first, and like the names

1023
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,480
Speaker 1: that come at the beginning, I can't remember trying to build.

1024
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's about for someone. But this is

1025
01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 1: like before Katherine O'Hara is super super super famous. I

1026
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: think it is. I'm pretty sure she's mainly known for

1027
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 1: SETV at this point. Let's see No, it just says

1028
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: Joe Pashi. Okay, this is very cryptic. Joe Pesci has

1029
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: earned salaries up to three million, five hundred thousand dollars

1030
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: for his acting. My cousin Vinny was maybe that one. Oh,

1031
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,200
Speaker 1: maybe that was a big one for him. I's psychic.

1032
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: People also ask whatever happened to Joe? He's in the

1033
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: Irishman as we speak. Well, yeah, well, and he just

1034
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 1: released Baby Girl last week. Honey, true waiting up? People

1035
01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,280
Speaker 1: dropping music right now? Um, you have other movie ease?

1036
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 1: I just have a couple things to say, sure, Um.

1037
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 1: Now the famous scene in Home Alone when Kevin is

1038
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: standing in front of the mirror, he's talking to himself.

1039
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: He's like, I just took a shower. I washed all

1040
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 1: my crevices. I used actual soap, I used as he

1041
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: does he says, did I creep black that out? Because

1042
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: he says crevices and I don't like children saying I agree.

1043
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: But he's like talking about all the products he's using.

1044
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, use soap, an adult formula shampoo, and

1045
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,120
Speaker 1: then a cream rinse for that just washed shine. And

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01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: the way to see him, we see him like putting

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01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 1: on deodorant and then putting on the aftershave and then

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01:07:42,840 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: he does that. Ah. That scene very closely resembles the

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01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:53,360
Speaker 1: scene in American Psycho where Patrick Bateman is like looking

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01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: at the mirror. He's like, and then I used an

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01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 1: almond scrub, and then I use a facial cleanser that

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01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: doesn't have alcohol because alcohol dize your skin out. And

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01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 1: then I use a blah blah blah, and and then

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: he like peels the mask off his face, and it's

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01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: basically identical. I'm saying that Americans like a ripped off

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 1: home alone can fully agree, thank you so much. And

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01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: then there's a very what I think is a very

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,920
Speaker 1: direct reference to Raiders of the Lost Dark when Joe

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01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:24,360
Speaker 1: Pesci grabs the door when Alfa Millian and the tarantulas.

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01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: But there's I'm talking about a different thing. Uh, when

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01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 1: Joe Pesci grabs the door knob and then has to

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01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: stick in his burning and he has to stick his

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01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 1: hand in the snow, and then there's the It's like

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01:08:35,240 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: the imprint of the door knob is burned onto his

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01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: hand and the same thing happens to the Nazi in

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Speaker 1: Raiders of the Lost Dark. Thank you so much. That

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01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: was really good. Wow, I fully I have a degree

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:55,560
Speaker 1: Instagram writing I I came across a theory, yes that

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: Kevin is dead? WHOA wait, the said from earlier? Yes, okay,

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01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: I thought you were about to say Kevin is dead.

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: I thought I want to hear that. Okay. So this

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: is good and it's actually written by feminist icon Aaron

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01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 1: Gloria Ryan, I'm a big fan of She wrote this

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01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 1: piece two years ago. Says Home Alone is so much

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01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: better if Kevin McAllister is dead. It's a hot take,

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01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,280
Speaker 1: but bear with me. I'll read a bit from it.

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01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: I was compelled quote in the Dead Kevin version of

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01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: Home Alone, the reason the extended family has gathered in

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01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: the Winnetka house is that the next day they're going

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01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 1: to fly to Paris without Kevin so that they can

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01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 1: get a little piece and quiet. Leaving him home was deliberate.

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01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: No one actually thought Kevin would join them on the

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01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: trip to Paris, because he is a spirit who's tethered

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01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: to the house. Kate McAllister is the only person who

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01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: reacts to forgetting Kevin the way a normal person would

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: to forgetting a child. Her husband Peter, is oddly calm,

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: as our Aunt Leslie and Uncle Frank, who tried to

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: comforicate by telling her that he forgot his reading glasses.

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01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 1: Kevin has an aversion to both the third floor of

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: his house and the basement, where a menacing furnace calls

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01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: his name. It doesn't take a first year Tish student

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01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: to point out that this pair of aversions represent Kevin's

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01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: refusal to leave the physical world of his house and

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01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:22,439
Speaker 1: ascend or descend heaven or afterlife. What It's Dante's inferno,

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: but home alone. It's incredible. Later, as an emboldened Kevin

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01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 1: attempts to leave the edge of his yard for the

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01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: first time, he is thwarted by old Man Marley, who

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01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 1: appears practically out of nowhere and scares Kevin back inside

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01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: where he's safe. Marley also appears where Kevin ventures past

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01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:41,680
Speaker 1: the edge of his yard for the first time the

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 1: next day, as if to scare him back home again.

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 1: On the night the band has planned to rob Kevin's house,

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01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 1: Marley tries again to keep him safe, trying to teach

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01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: him old man lessons in a church. And it's old

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01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: man Marley who is finally able to fill the bandits

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01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,920
Speaker 1: with his shovel after Kevin leads them through a sea

1107
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: areas of hellish physical ordeals. So okay, the theory goes on.

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01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,920
Speaker 1: It also says that Joe Pesci and the other guy

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01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 1: are immortal, but basically Kevin's a ghost. Marley is his

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,679
Speaker 1: protector that already an angel, his angel that is trying

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 1: to get him to stay in the house where he's

1112
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: saved and decide to ascend or descend. That's why they

1113
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 1: don't tell anyone anything happened, because no one's going to

1114
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 1: believe a ghost, so there's no point in reporting it.

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01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 1: But not what it was. Are you sure? Can we

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01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: be sure? I don't think it's real, but I was.

1117
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: I was, like, my mouth was a gay. But this

1118
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,200
Speaker 1: is insane. It's amazing. I'm glad that someone thought about.

1119
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:53,440
Speaker 1: It's my favorite fan theory I've ever read. Kevin McAllister

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01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: is dead. What if everyone in the movie was dead

1121
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 1: and they were just people dead people come. It's like

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01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 1: the last episode of Lost or whatever the funk happens

1123
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: in that what happens that I took a class on

1124
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 1: that in college? Shut the funk up? Can you believe

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01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: that whole semester a whole semester of some fucking loser

1126
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:21,120
Speaker 1: being like it makes sense? And then I was in

1127
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 1: debt for a decade? Can you believe that I took

1128
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: a semester of don Key xote and I just realized

1129
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,919
Speaker 1: that you could watch the Yale lecture for free online.

1130
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't go to college. It's a scam. Okay,

1131
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:39,120
Speaker 1: I have a master's degree. Anyway, I am in so much.

1132
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: Please join our patreon. Um okay, so uh does anyone

1133
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 1: have any final thoughts? No, we had more to say

1134
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 1: than I thought you will, be honest. I thought this

1135
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: would finally be the episode where we just sat out

1136
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: of here. Like it turns out, we talk a lot.

1137
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: It's a feminist masterpiece. I think we have a I

1138
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 1: think we have a few moments for a couple of

1139
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 1: questions or comments from the audience. If anyone has anything

1140
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 1: to contribute to this important discussion that yeah, come on down,

1141
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: we can hear you in the in the mic um.

1142
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,640
Speaker 1: I would just like to point out that there are

1143
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,760
Speaker 1: many adults that failed to realize this kid is like

1144
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,799
Speaker 1: walking around by himself. He goes to the grocery store.

1145
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:28,879
Speaker 1: The police are like, oh, we tried, we tried knocking,

1146
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: and you know, no one answered, so I guess he's fine.

1147
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: It's like he's eighty, you know, he's in there. One

1148
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:39,640
Speaker 1: lady comes close, but she doesn't. She's like, are you

1149
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,920
Speaker 1: by yourself? It's when he goes to the supermarket the

1150
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:48,680
Speaker 1: second time he goes to a church. I have expected

1151
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 1: him to talk to Why doesn't Marley church alone? Why

1152
01:13:54,520 --> 01:14:00,240
Speaker 1: aren't you a church? Incompetence? Incompetence by all the else,

1153
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: he's the most competent one. I think it only makes

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 1: sense that he's dead. I mean, and that's I mean,

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01:14:07,160 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: that's a common theme of like children's movies, where it's

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01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: like the children are so much smarter than the adults.

1157
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:16,120
Speaker 1: And then this movie also plays into the fantasy of like, yeah,

1158
01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: our families suck and we just want to be home

1159
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 1: alone forever. I'm like, oh, I haven't watched them. We're

1160
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 1: going to cover it tomorrow. Are there any of the questions? Yeah,

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01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 1: I've rewatched it this morning, and um, I just thought

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01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 1: it was interesting how John Candy offered to like give

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01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 1: her a ride, and him and his poker band like

1164
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: rented a bus, but um, Kate didn't think to rent

1165
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,800
Speaker 1: a bus. She just kept buying over. She didn't think

1166
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: to like rent a car or anything until like a

1167
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 1: man showed up and was like, no, let me help you.

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01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: That's very true. Good point. Um, all excuse because I

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01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 1: like Katherine O'Hara so much and the character she plays

1170
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:05,400
Speaker 1: that mom. Sorry, um, I'll excuse that a way of

1171
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,439
Speaker 1: just like her being so frantic over this crisis that's

1172
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: happening in her family that she isn't like using her

1173
01:15:13,080 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 1: logical brain as effectively as I would guess that she

1174
01:15:16,680 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 1: had already bartered all her jewels. She had no nothing

1175
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 1: or maybe nothing left on her too. I don't know,

1176
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: but that is that could have that that could have

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01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: easily been an oversight to just be like, well, we

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 1: want John Candy in the most obviously, which was a delight.

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01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: His lines were all improvised. As another fact, if oh interesting,

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01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,280
Speaker 1: I feel like he's playing the same character he plays

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01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 1: in trains, plans and automobiles. He's just like on that journey,

1182
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, I'll give you a ride. I'm

1183
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: on a bus this time van. So that scene, those

1184
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: scenes with him are not very long, right, But I

1185
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 1: read in the in the Oral History that I read

1186
01:15:56,680 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 1: apparently they had a full twelve hours of shooting with him,

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,560
Speaker 1: and he fully explored a character. I mean, there was

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01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,400
Speaker 1: a whole Katherine o' harris says in this like Oral

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01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:12,000
Speaker 1: History interview she was like, yeah, I just remember it's

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01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,719
Speaker 1: a really long day. I think that she improvised flashing

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01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:18,920
Speaker 1: out her character quite a bit. John Candy created this

1192
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 1: whole narrative for the Polka Band and they were on

1193
01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 1: hard times but now they're doing better, but they're not

1194
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: as successful as they once were. And it was this

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01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:27,720
Speaker 1: whole thing. And then at the end of the day,

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01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,400
Speaker 1: Chris Columbus was just like, well that was all basically unusable,

1197
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 1: like kind of like calm down, like you know how

1198
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: they just right. I'm like, but they did. It's somewhere,

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01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:45,599
Speaker 1: maybe somewhere that footage is somewhere to get our hands

1200
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:49,639
Speaker 1: on it. I would love to see a twelve hour cut. Well,

1201
01:16:50,280 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 1: speaking of twelve hours, that's about how long it takes

1202
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: to drive from Scranton, Pennsylvania to Chicago, because I did

1203
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: Google map it today. So she was in that same

1204
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 1: way that van for twelve I mean, and it was snowing,

1205
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 1: so maybe they had to go slower. I don't know.

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01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: They stopped for meals properly, bathroom breaks. No, there's no

1207
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 1: peeing in this movie, No, pep. That's a great back around.

1208
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: That was a call back to the p Matt to

1209
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,800
Speaker 1: TAM's peep pebs. Yes, we have a question in the

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: back most all, there's that whole discussion we're in the

1211
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 1: movie about the cousin or the son that went to

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01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,640
Speaker 1: the bed. So your your listeners are gonna be like, no,

1213
01:17:33,680 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 1: there's peeing in this movie. You just saved us from

1214
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: being added to death. Thank you, you guys forgot about

1215
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: Kieren Colkins every time. For Karen Golden Peas. That's a

1216
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: huge part about this. I love Twitter so much. It

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01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,720
Speaker 1: makes sense. Thank you, Thank you for that. That's a

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01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: great points only one character piece. And Macaulay instead Kevin's dead,

1219
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: the Collocums alive and well and calls Catherine a hair

1220
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 1: up mom. Yeah. Any other questions are comments Yeah, well

1221
01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: go Homer, Yeah, we'll repeat it. So the question is,

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01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,080
Speaker 1: how do you think we can encourage and support more

1223
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:19,959
Speaker 1: diversity in film give opportunities to writers, creators, directors, etcetera,

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01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,600
Speaker 1: any creative minds who have like influence over story and

1225
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Um, I think it's like and it's

1226
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: a lot of just like demanding it from people who

1227
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 1: have power right now, where I just dumped on Twitter

1228
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 1: because everyone you know will point out pepe things. But

1229
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: the great power of of social media is you do

1230
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: have like direct connection to powerful people and to let

1231
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 1: them know how you feel. And so like there is

1232
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 1: such a failure of powerful people right now to give opportunities.

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01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 1: And there's that mentorship complex that I feel like we've

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01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 1: discussed on the show before, where it's like mentors so

1235
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 1: often are you know, like there's so many like rich

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01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:01,800
Speaker 1: white guys in power, and they'll mentor people who remind

1237
01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,000
Speaker 1: them of themselves. And it's just encouraging people who have

1238
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: power right now to mentor people who are not just them,

1239
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 1: to prioritize giving opportunities to people from backgrounds that aren't

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01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,720
Speaker 1: their own, and to you know, diversify and conversations like

1241
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 1: this too, because as we're sitting here, I'm like Ship

1242
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: thinking of myself as a kid in Argentina watching this.

1243
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 1: It's like there's a story to be told in that.

1244
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: I just never thought it was anybody cared, you know,

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01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,400
Speaker 1: So what we do, we care do And then I

1246
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 1: think one of the main things that consumers can do

1247
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 1: because money speaks very loudly in this industry and all industries,

1248
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: but um, make sure you go to see movies in

1249
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 1: theaters that are created by and star you know, diverse casts,

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01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: and and look for them too, because they're not marketed

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01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: as heavily as fucking Joker and Ship like that. Don't yeah,

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Speaker 1: bravely don't see Joker. That's the way to encourage diversity, No,

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Speaker 1: uh no, but I do think it like it is,

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01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: just like it because people from any sort of marginalized group,

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01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: their their movies and projects are not prioritized and marketed

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01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:18,719
Speaker 1: as heavily as things from you know, the old school,

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01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:21,640
Speaker 1: rich white guys. It's like you have to seek it

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01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,960
Speaker 1: out and support it and you know, support your friends,

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01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: and it's it's a climb, but it's you know, it's

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01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:33,640
Speaker 1: it's getting better slowly slow. Um. Thank you for all

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Speaker 1: your questions. That's a great question. Hey, does this movie

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01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 1: pass the backtel test? No, it does not. There are

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01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,920
Speaker 1: more interactions between women than I expected there to be

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 1: because I remember none of these. But like Kate McAllister

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01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: talks to the French airline lady about trying to get

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01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,599
Speaker 1: on a flight back home, but she is not named,

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01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:59,320
Speaker 1: and they don't. The whole context is I have to

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01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 1: get back to my and Irene the old lady that

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01:21:02,600 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: she offers all the jewelry to yes, and she is

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01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:10,400
Speaker 1: named Yes, But the whole thing is still like, my please,

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01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: I must get back to my husband. And then her

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01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 1: husband comes up and he's like, we're boarding, get on

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01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:23,160
Speaker 1: the flight, Irene. And then the mom talks to various

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Speaker 1: of her daughters and I think it's her sister in law,

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01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,479
Speaker 1: Leslie Um. But again the whole thing is like even

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01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:33,520
Speaker 1: though the conversations they're passing like passing on paper, versations

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01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: like they don't necessarily mention a man's name, but the

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01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:38,680
Speaker 1: whole context is still like we have to do these

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01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,720
Speaker 1: things to get back to Kevin So. And then the

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01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: mom talks to the female police officer. But again the

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01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 1: same thing with a context. So I don't think it passes.

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01:21:48,200 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: It's no, it doesn't pass. I had I have to

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,679
Speaker 1: say one more thing and then while everyone go home. Okay,

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01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: so one of the sisters, the actor who plays Megan McAlister,

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01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:04,280
Speaker 1: she goes on to represent the United States in judo

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01:22:04,600 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 1: at the Olympics three times. Good for her, I know.

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01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:12,640
Speaker 1: I think she actually ends up doing the best. I

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01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 1: think she ends up doing better than Macaulay Culkin in

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01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: many ways. She's remembered for being a judo champion. I

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01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 1: just thought that was very impressive. Shout out to her,

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01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 1: shout out. We'll never do that, We'll never so far

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01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: away from being an Olympic judo Does anyone here think

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01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 1: they even have a shot? Does anyone do? That's why

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01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: you're not Megan mcallis um, But yeah, yeah, that does

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01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: not pass. Let's write it on our nipple scale zero

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01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 1: to five nipples based on its representation of women. Oh um, well,

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Speaker 1: I do appreciate, But what's the number? I know, I

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01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 1: always don't say the number for until Yeah. I like

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01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,720
Speaker 1: to give a long prep because she's deciding wh a

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01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: whole long wrung way I'm going to say one and

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01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:06,799
Speaker 1: a half. I think that's pretty fair. I will also

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01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 1: say that, and I'm not going to let the audience

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01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: influence me this time because I also do that every

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01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: time where like and I'm like, I'm sorry if women

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01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,160
Speaker 1: don't apologize anymore. I think one and a half because

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01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: the one female character we get to know is while

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: we really only know who she is as it relates

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01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:35,280
Speaker 1: to being a mother, which is a reductive thing. She is,

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01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 1: I would say, on par and maybe the second most

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01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 1: active character in the stories. She is driving the mission

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01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: to get home to Kevin. She is not the negligent

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Speaker 1: mother that I feel like history has like remembered her,

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01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 1: as she's got a lot on her plate. It appears,

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Speaker 1: even though she'd be more explicit that she may be

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01:23:57,240 --> 01:24:00,680
Speaker 1: the breadwinner of this family. She's called stomed as the

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01:24:00,800 --> 01:24:04,280
Speaker 1: breadwinner of the family, and she got way more screen

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01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:07,720
Speaker 1: time than I thought that, you know, just based on

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01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: the way this movie have been described to me, So

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01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,320
Speaker 1: you know, it's the classic you really only get one

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01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,720
Speaker 1: female character, even though you see others. She's the only

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01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: active female character. But I liked her, and then it's like,

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01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:23,080
Speaker 1: I feel like it's easy to you know, plug yourself

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01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:26,920
Speaker 1: into her situation, and she's a very empathetic, active character,

1324
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,960
Speaker 1: which I appreciate it. But then there's only men other

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01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: than that one and a half one and a half.

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01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:37,080
Speaker 1: It's also just an extremely as we've discussed, white movie,

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01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 1: an extremely upper class movie. It doesn't give a shit

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01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: about anyone who does not fit this like idyllic American

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01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: dream type of family and villainizes the people who are

1330
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 1: trying to eat the rich. So you know, if you

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01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: have a hundred dollars for pizza, Yeah, no, it is.

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01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 1: It is very of its time in the way is

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01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 1: that it portrays families and the way that it portrays

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01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:09,679
Speaker 1: the ideal family, and in sort of every regard. Um, sure, yes,

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01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give it a nipple and a half. I'm

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01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: gonna give one to Catherine O'Hara, and then we give

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01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:21,160
Speaker 1: half to Kevin because he's dead. Oh, I'm gonna give

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01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:27,520
Speaker 1: my one and a half nipple to the tarantula. Tarantula's

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01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,560
Speaker 1: do have zero nipples, but they have eight legs, and

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01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: that's tarantula facts. With Caitlin, I love it. Dam What

1341
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Speaker 1: do you think I'm gonna give it two nipples because

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01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:45,120
Speaker 1: I have two nipples. All right, that's the entire reasoning.

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01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: That's the best reasoning I've ever heard. You pee on

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01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,640
Speaker 1: your floor and you have two nipples. What if we

1345
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 1: were like this episode has been brought to you by

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01:25:55,720 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: baby Girl by today, I think maybe we can bump

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01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: it up to two dipples, just strictly because did he

1348
01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 1: name his song baby boy? Feminist icono is prioritizing the

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01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:14,200
Speaker 1: representation of women, that's true, but he's also infantilizing them.

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01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 1: So that's not what he could be thinking about a baby.

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01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,280
Speaker 1: That's true. We can't understand that. It's impossible to know

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01:26:19,320 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: what he's saying. Oh he's Scooby doing. We don't know

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01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,639
Speaker 1: what he's saying. Yeah. True. I hope everyone goes home

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01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 1: and listen I write it. Thank you so much for

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01:26:33,560 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: that gift, because I didn't. It was his first release

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01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:45,639
Speaker 1: in twenty three years to right now you know, yes,

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01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for sharing that and thank you

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01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:51,880
Speaker 1: for being give it up for tim Thank you, Thank

1359
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:58,240
Speaker 1: you guys for having me. Where can people follow you online?

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01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: Check out your stuff? Find me on my not job.

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01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,720
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just kidding. Um. I have a podcast

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01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: called Ceriso Talk where me and my sister talk about

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01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:13,320
Speaker 1: our life as kids and now, and we eat a sausage,

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01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:17,200
Speaker 1: a different one every time, except we forget the sausage

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01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 1: every time. So that's just the yeah. Um, And I'm

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Speaker 1: online at Dances with Dammy's the worst fucking Twitter name ever.

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01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 1: But it's a classic classic based off of Dances with

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01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Wolf Spike Kevin Costner, which I've never seen. Oh, it's

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01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: very long and quite boring. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: coming to the show. Give it up. Give it up

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01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 1: to Jake for according for us the whole raft. Give

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Speaker 1: it up to the Ruby by