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Speaker 1: This is it the end of the Winter Meetings, and

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Speaker 1: you know what that means? Everything will start happening. Well, yes,

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Speaker 1: no more backpacks, that's the easy answer from Krafts. But

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Speaker 1: also everything will start happening. Why there's no deadline, so

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Speaker 2: Mar My question is why does kraft take backpack so much?

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Speaker 3: I love backpack.

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Speaker 2: I love backpacks. Like what Krafts?

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Speaker 4: Are you like one of those people that has the

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Speaker 4: wheelie the little wheelie suitcase when you go around like,

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Speaker 4: not a backpack, Like, I don't get what you're such

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Speaker 5: If you saw all the backpacks that went by, it

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Speaker 5: looks like some people are hault like their shurpas, like

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Speaker 5: they're hauling their entire life around with them. It's like

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Speaker 5: you're at the Winter Meetings. Like our guy right back there,

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Speaker 5: Shy DAVIDI he just he just walked by, good backpack wearing.

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Speaker 5: We got some people that are rocking all of Peter

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Speaker 4: I mean, you don't. You don't want to see my backpack.

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Speaker 4: Backpack is like my go back so it has all

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Speaker 4: It's got like a fair shoes I fold up in it.

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Speaker 4: It's got all my bathroom stuff, it's got my all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there was one guy walking by an Orioles. Guy

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Speaker 3: It had all of Pete Alonzo's money in it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, every every busin So let's hit breaking news. The

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Speaker 1: polar Bear has left the Mets. Five years, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty five million dollars gets him to the Baltimore Orioles.

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Speaker 1: Orioles made a big bid that essentially matched what the

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Speaker 1: Phillies through at Kyle Schwarber. That was according to Ken Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: who had great reporting. And we'll be on our show later,

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Speaker 1: but we learned that Pete Alonso will instead be the

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Speaker 1: guy that the Oriols bring in to be their big

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Speaker 4: Also, don't forget, I mean they added a ward Taylor

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Speaker 4: they hope Athley bounces back. They have Basaio, they have Gunner.

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Speaker 4: They're hoping Jackson Holiday takes the next step, Cowser takes

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Speaker 4: the next step. Like this is this is how you

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Speaker 4: And when you get to that point, now, they need

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Speaker 2: They're gonna need some pitching. And as happy as I am.

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Speaker 4: For the Orioles right now, because we've we've banged the

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Speaker 4: do this, we need the Oriels to do this. Michaelia's

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Speaker 4: way to go. The new ownership. We saw Adam Jones,

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Speaker 4: we saw them Jones walk Why he didn't even tell

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Speaker 4: But here's my question.

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Speaker 2: What are the Mets doing? What where are you?

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Speaker 4: Mister met Like what are we happening here with Uncle

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Speaker 4: lost Edwin Diaz and now you've lost Pete a Lonzo

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Speaker 2: Around city Field? Like what Pete Alonzo.

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Speaker 5: But so I'm gonna go with the Orioles. Does anybody

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Speaker 5: which the Red Sox have made the little moves, the

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Speaker 5: So this is a fun American League East.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this team had a brutal season this past season.

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Speaker 1: Talking about Baltimore, Yeah, they just improved their offense with

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Speaker 4: But they have not improved the biggest problem they have pitching. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Where's he? Kramer?

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Speaker 4: Where's he? They don't have Batista? You know, is is

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Speaker 4: e Flyn? What's where's he at? Like there's all these

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Speaker 4: well he's not there anymore. He's there right now, guys.

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Speaker 4: Trevor Rodgers, okay, who was brilliant, but two years ago

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Speaker 4: he was in triple A and could get anybody out.

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Speaker 3: Kyle Bradish coming off.

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Speaker 1: This'll be another full season top of surgery, Dean Kramer,

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Speaker 5: Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Do you trust that now against Garrett Cole, Max Free, Carlos, Roddan,

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Speaker 4: Dylan Cees, Kevin Cousman, Burrios, you say Avage, that whole crew,

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Speaker 3: They have by far the worst pitching in the AD.

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Speaker 2: It's not even close.

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Speaker 3: But now their lineup is up.

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Speaker 2: To par Yeah close, but you win the rest of

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Speaker 1: But this this to me means all right, good krats

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Speaker 5: would you would hamstring him like that. Are the Orioles

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Speaker 5: willing to make Bosaillo the everyday catcher? No, I don't

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Speaker 5: Ali Rutchman does not re sign with this team.

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Speaker 2: Yes, would they trade Adley?

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Speaker 4: They could get a haul, They could get some pitching

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Speaker 4: would would the would Michael Yas? It's about possible making

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Speaker 5: Clearly Michael Yas doesn't want anything to do with any

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Speaker 5: Do the Twins want Adlie Rutchman? You know there's pitching there.

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Speaker 5: I think he's still a top can be a top

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Speaker 3: They'll get Peede off his legs a little bit. Let's

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Speaker 4: Prove my worth as a first base and now I'm okay.

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Speaker 4: It's like the hater thing, right for years, I'll only

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Speaker 4: Pete's not gonna not want to play. Pete plays every day,

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Speaker 4: for you Micha Elias, Good for you Rubinstein's yep, everything right.

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Speaker 4: I'll go get some pitching, but I I just can't

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Speaker 4: Edwin Diaz in the all time traded you know what,

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Speaker 4: But I don't know, it's it's weird. Nemo's gone now,

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Speaker 4: it's it's they've lost big pieces.

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Speaker 1: They were pissed as an organization would be. They didn't

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Speaker 5: It's a different route. I mean, I guess there's different

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Speaker 3: No, I'm getting fresh stuff for you. Ready for it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm always for it.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of tweets coming in fast and

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Speaker 1: Anthony Diacomo said. The Mets never made a formal offer

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Speaker 2: Well. Sherman said the same thing, Joel Sherman.

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Speaker 5: Good for Pete. We thought he was going to get

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Speaker 1: Of five over you got thirty last year counting last year,

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Speaker 3: In a freaking harpy, god Boris got him again.

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Speaker 2: God Boris got him out the city.

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Speaker 4: Matt Chapman got him. Bragman's gonna get him got him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, opt out for stars are usually a pretty

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Speaker 2: Yep, what do they do?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 2: Who?

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Speaker 5: Who the Mets?

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Speaker 2: I mean? Kroud Caidy, he had a bring back Frankie Montoss.

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Speaker 3: Find the next montask I said, that Crouds.

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Speaker 4: Krouch said, David Sarns has a plan, I said, bring

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they're they're they're kind of in a weird

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Speaker 5: That's a problem. Did they go after Bragman and move

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Speaker 5: Pete Alonzo? You're never You're never going to find Pete's

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Speaker 1: It was Schwarber and Pete and they basically got the

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Speaker 1: monster home run hitters. Yes, Schwarber hit many more.

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Speaker 2: This year.

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Speaker 1: It is a more hitter friendly park in Philadelphia than

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Speaker 3: That is a fact.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, I'm proud of them more than anything.

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Speaker 4: With the Orioles, they put it out there that they.

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Speaker 4: to Kyle Schwarber. Even the Reds, We'll throw the Reds

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Speaker 4: So they're admitting that they have that money to spend,

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Speaker 3: No, I mean, there are many free agents left.

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Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: They well, they might take the Pirates.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna take that whatever money they had for Kyle

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Speaker 1: They should have spent it on Pete I mean, like

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Speaker 1: Tim Healy is here and we're gonna talk to him

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Speaker 1: right now about the Mets. Actually, Tim, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: Eventually we'll get into the Red Sox with Tim too.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, this is the news that sweeps the day,

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Speaker 6: Your longtime.

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Speaker 7: The Mets had a lot of work to do coming

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Speaker 7: They I don't think they were ever gonna gonna keep

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Speaker 6: They didn't.

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Speaker 7: They seem kind of lukewarm on him at best the

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Speaker 7: As you guys were saying, how are you gonna get

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Speaker 7: So they have David Stearns is a smart guy. I'll

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Speaker 4: To do, Okay, so I know we're gonna get to

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Speaker 4: the red sux to you, but the Mets, to me,

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Speaker 2: It's as if you're a Mets fan, you're like, wait,

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Speaker 6: Fans are desponding.

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Speaker 4: I feel, yes, right, big pieces. But they still have Sodo,

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Speaker 2: They still have pieces, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: If they don't do anything is do you And I

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Speaker 7: If he doesn't have a At Wan Soto's introductory press

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Speaker 7: Mets waited it out, eventually got him back on the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, does this?

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Speaker 6: So I don't know what Mark Fiento's steal is going

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Speaker 7: fill them.

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Speaker 1: Quick question, do you think that the Red Sox had

437
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Speaker 1: real interest in Pete but they had to wait.

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Speaker 7: For I know miners saying is that the Red Sox

439
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Speaker 7: preferred Regman but liked both. They were engaged with Pete

440
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Speaker 7: playing to meet with Pete last night. I didn't confirm

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Speaker 7: that that actually happened, but it was on the agenda.

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Speaker 2: A gold crowd on the street.

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Speaker 6: There you go, you're on top of it.

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Speaker 3: Just yesterday was yesterday.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So they were in on Pete and I thought

446
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Speaker 7: it was going to happen, to be honest, you know,

447
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Speaker 7: people talk about his wife being from Quincy in a

448
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Speaker 7: match there, Fenway Park, perfect fit, all that stuff. If

449
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Speaker 7: you're right handed, Hitory'd rather be at Fenway the Camden Yards,

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Speaker 7: all things considered. But five years, one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 7: five million dollars is gonna do a lot of convincing.

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Speaker 7: So the Oils got it done. Took it away from

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Speaker 7: the Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Kratz's favorite two words and sports in on Red Sox.

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Speaker 3: Were in.

456
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Speaker 5: Or.

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Speaker 3: We tried to try nd up with Pete. Okay, we

458
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Speaker 3: tried one more on Pete.

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Speaker 1: Tell me what the Orioles are getting and you cover

460
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Speaker 1: the Ale East?

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, how.

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Speaker 1: Does this change the Ale East? Like, give me your

463
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Speaker 1: peat impact slash Orioles take.

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Speaker 7: So he's exactly what the Ools needed, right. They have

465
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Speaker 7: all those young guys and it didn't go great in

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty five. Now they have a veteran who's gonna

467
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Speaker 7: be good for thirty five to forty home runs one

468
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Speaker 7: hundred plus RBIs and you put him in the middle

469
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Speaker 7: of the lineup, take a pressure off Gunner, Henderson, Jackson,

470
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Speaker 7: Holiday Westburg, et cetera. And maybe the Oils start to

471
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Speaker 7: cook with gas next year. Uh, they still need to

472
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Speaker 7: figure out the pitching thing, but I'm sure they're on

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Speaker 7: top of it.

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Speaker 6: As the Ale East.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to go right past that.

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Speaker 7: Wells the Oils are not a perpanct sea. Yes, it's

477
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Speaker 7: that they have play more work to do, absolutely, because

478
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Speaker 7: the Ale East is so good. The Blue Jays almost

479
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Speaker 7: won the World Series. The Yankees won as many games

480
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Speaker 7: as the Blue Jays in the regular season, and you

481
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Speaker 7: gotta figure they're going to be there every year. The

482
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Speaker 7: Red Sox, we'll see how the off season goes, but

483
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Speaker 7: they made the playoffs. They should be building on that

484
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Speaker 7: crochet fully of Roman Anthony, all that good stuff. They

485
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Speaker 7: have a good foundation. They need their other pieces. We'll

486
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Speaker 7: see how that goes for them. And then the Rays

487
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Speaker 7: are always a little bit of a wild card. So

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Speaker 7: it's the Ale East is loaded and Alonso helps the Oriols.

489
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Speaker 7: But I don't know that the Orioles are better than

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Speaker 7: the third or fourth best team right now in the division.

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Speaker 2: For sure.

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Speaker 5: Let's go to the Red Sox. Then are they making

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Speaker 5: sure they're not bidding against themselves with Alex Bregman because

494
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Speaker 5: of the impact we've talked about it, like the impact

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Speaker 5: he made on the team last year. Did they have

496
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Speaker 5: to be leary of that because of who else really

497
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Speaker 5: is in on him?

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Speaker 6: That's a great question.

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Speaker 7: And there hasn't been a lot of buzz right that

500
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Speaker 7: sounds like the Tigers aren't super keen on it. There

501
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Speaker 7: was a report about the Cubs last week, and you

502
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Speaker 7: know they you know, they're just posturing probably, but they

503
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Speaker 7: do have Matt Shaw like they're not desperate for Alex

504
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Speaker 7: Bregman even if they like him. Who else is in

505
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Speaker 7: on Alex Bregman? I don't really know. So the Red

506
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Speaker 7: Sox do have to be careful of that. They're a

507
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Speaker 7: very under Craig Bresla, a very patient, deliberate, intentional operation.

508
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Speaker 7: So there, I don't think they're gonna bit against themselves.

509
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Speaker 7: But guys are coming off the board. Schwarber's gone, they

510
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Speaker 7: never made an offer, Pete's gone. The pressure is on

511
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Speaker 7: the Red Sox now, I think to do what it

512
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Speaker 7: takes to keep Alex Bregman.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the Red Sox, you know, need Bregmant. They

514
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Speaker 2: love Bragman.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, this causes the answer first base, because that's like

516
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Speaker 4: the one question that nobody can answer. Right. They had

517
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Speaker 4: to go get into Thaniel Litt last ye because Cossus

518
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Speaker 4: can't stay healthy. They had Toro and Romey Gonzalz thero

519
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Speaker 4: the one year Bragman. If they get Bregman, he solidifies third. Right,

520
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Speaker 4: we know that story. Whoever's at tewod Meyer or Campbell,

521
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Speaker 4: whoever that person is, the outfield's really was set catching set.

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Speaker 2: First base is.

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Speaker 4: The one place that you're still like, Yeah, where the

524
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Speaker 4: Red Sox at?

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Speaker 2: Is that Tristan Cassus.

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Speaker 7: I don't think that's that's I don't think it is

527
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Speaker 7: because he's been injured most of the past two years,

528
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Speaker 7: So how can you possibly count on that, never mind

529
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Speaker 7: the fact that it was a major, major knee injury,

530
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Speaker 7: and I'm not totally sure he'll be fully healthy and

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Speaker 7: ready to go on opening day.

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Speaker 2: He has to.

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Speaker 7: He's at a point in his career when he where

534
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Speaker 7: he needs to re establish himself, and I don't think

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Speaker 7: that is going to come at the beginning of twenty

536
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Speaker 7: twenty six. As the everyday first baseman for the Red Sox.

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Speaker 7: They still like him. There's still plenty of talent and

538
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Speaker 7: strength and power there and all of that stuff. He's

539
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Speaker 7: not old by means. He's twenty four, I believe. And yeah,

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's castles. I think there's going to

541
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Speaker 7: need to be another answer, whether that's maybe you Hennio Suarez,

542
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Speaker 7: who they've red Sox have been in touch with and

543
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Speaker 7: interested in. I think there's mutual interest there. So first

544
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Speaker 7: bases very much open the air, and so yeah, good.

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Speaker 4: Things to talk about for bad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's like, just does the crazy stuff. He

547
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Speaker 2: gives you something to talk about.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, everybody loves stuff to talk about, especially especially.

549
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Speaker 5: What about the catching position, because I had I think

550
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Speaker 5: it was your article that said there's a possibility with

551
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Speaker 5: real Muto and not saying it would be real Muto

552
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Speaker 5: just because of how it works. But like the the

553
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Speaker 5: the decline from the start of the year for Carlos Nervaiaz,

554
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Speaker 5: some concerns about different things. Is this is this a

555
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Speaker 5: position where they're looking for kind of like a not

556
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Speaker 5: a platoon but like a half and half situation, or

557
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Speaker 5: would they go to the top of the trade market

558
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Speaker 5: with like an Adlie well Adeley wouldn't go there for Baltimore,

559
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Speaker 5: But like, would they make a big splash at the

560
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Speaker 5: catching position or do they feel fine with Carlos Nervians?

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Speaker 7: I think, and the change at catcher is a really

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Speaker 7: down ballot off season potential plan.

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Speaker 6: Credit where it's due.

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Speaker 7: That was the athletic that rink that linked initially the

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Speaker 7: Red Sox to JT.

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Speaker 6: Real Muto.

567
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Speaker 7: I have confirmed that they've sniffed around on him, but

568
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Speaker 7: it doesn't make a ton of sense off the bat

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Speaker 7: this offseason. Right they have Carlos Narvaiaz and he was

570
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Speaker 7: way more than they thought he was going to be

571
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Speaker 7: coming into twenty twenty five and took that starting job

572
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Speaker 7: and tired at the end, and you know, didn't have

573
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Speaker 7: as good as second half as he had a first half.

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Speaker 7: He was, in my opinion, a borderline All Star in

575
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Speaker 7: the first half. But he's a great defensive catcher, a

576
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Speaker 7: great framer. The pitchers love him, so a change there,

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Speaker 7: I don't think is at the top of the agenda

578
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Speaker 7: right now. If a bunch more bats come off the

579
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Speaker 7: board and they believe JT. Real Muto is gonna bounce back,

580
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Speaker 7: then yeah, I could see them going that route. But

581
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Speaker 7: I just don't think it's a primary consideration right now,

582
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Speaker 7: as much as I do like JT. Real Muttos as

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Speaker 7: a player, one of my favorite players to watch for

584
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Speaker 7: the past, you know, seven six, seven, eight years.

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Speaker 3: What do you think of.

586
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Speaker 1: The moves the Red Sox have made thus far with

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Speaker 1: Sonny Gray and Johann Oviedo acquisitions and compared to what

588
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Speaker 1: you've seen the rest of the division.

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Speaker 3: Do I know we're early in the aufice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's fine. The Red Sox have a

591
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Speaker 7: ton of starting depth right now. They have probably you

592
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Speaker 7: could probably build two rotations comfortably with what they've got.

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Speaker 7: Johann Oviedo's a little bit of a not quite a

594
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Speaker 7: lottery ticket because he's pitched in the Major's plenty, but

595
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Speaker 7: the Red Sox think there's upside there and they liked

596
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Speaker 7: what he saw what they saw in his nine starts

597
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Speaker 7: back from Tommy John surgery. Before that, hadn't pitched since

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty three. So with Sonny Gray, he's a good pitcher.

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Speaker 7: You know, he's going to be healthy, or at least has

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Speaker 7: been historically and two hundred strikeouts front of the rotation,

601
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Speaker 7: been an All Star in the past, like he's He's

602
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Speaker 7: been there, done that veteran presence, and that's good. I'm

603
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Speaker 7: not I'm staying open minded to the Red Sox potentially

604
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Speaker 7: adding another starting pitcher by opening day. I think it's

605
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Speaker 7: going to be you know, they can go with Sonny

606
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Speaker 7: Gray as their number two, but he's not that true

607
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Speaker 7: number two or better yet, that one bee to Garrett Crochet.

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Speaker 6: So let's see what happens the next three months.

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Speaker 5: This is I guess why gms don't talk very much.

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Speaker 5: But Craig reslo, Or, President of Baseball Operations, said they

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Speaker 5: wanted to get They're not looking for threes and fours.

612
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Speaker 5: They're looking for fours and fives. They're looking for that

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Speaker 5: one bee. Like you just said, did they accomplish this

614
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Speaker 5: or did they accomplish it by saying, well, we'll get

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Speaker 5: two threes.

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Speaker 7: I don't think they quite accomplish it. And I do

617
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Speaker 7: like Sunny Gray. He's a very useful pitcher. Would pitch

618
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Speaker 7: in a playoff rotation for anybody. Absolutely, But I think

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Speaker 7: if you're talking about competing with the Blue Jays who

620
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Speaker 7: just added Dylan Cease, or the Yankees, who in theory

621
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Speaker 7: will have Garrett Cole coming back, or you know, midway

622
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Speaker 7: through the season and have Max Freed as their one

623
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Speaker 7: two punch. The Red Sox don't quite have that true

624
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Speaker 7: one bee as you said, but like I said, I'm

625
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Speaker 7: staying open minded to that changing between now an opening day,

626
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Speaker 7: never mind the trade deadline, by the time the playoffs

627
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Speaker 7: roll around.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you have to understand Krats.

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Speaker 4: His favorite picture in the planet is ovi Aedo, So okay,

630
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Speaker 4: it broke his heart when he got traded because he

631
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Speaker 4: was just such a such a fan for the last.

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Speaker 2: Couple of years.

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Speaker 4: He always talked, I mean, the guy's gigantic, he's got

634
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Speaker 4: great stuff, but I did not really stand out. You

635
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Speaker 4: don't understand the big disc guy. But my question about

636
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Speaker 4: the pitching is, yes, you have Crostchet, Yes, Sonny Gray's

637
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Speaker 4: a nice pickup Oviate.

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Speaker 2: Can he stay healthy? How do they get more?

639
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Speaker 4: You say they have depth, right, and they have some

640
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Speaker 4: young kids who came up in tonight show, But how

641
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Speaker 4: do they get more out of their pitching other than

642
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Speaker 4: Crochet Because the rest of those guys, Sony kraz A,

643
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Speaker 4: five inning guy Oviedo, it wasn't hurt.

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Speaker 2: So can the Red Sox and Craig Breslow figure out

645
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Speaker 2: how to get more out of the guys that they

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Speaker 2: have acquired.

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Speaker 7: So you're starting Craig Breslo, the pitching infrastructure whiz with

648
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Speaker 7: the Cubs, came to the Red Sox two years ago

649
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Speaker 7: and that was a big part of his whole deal.

650
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Speaker 7: And you're starting to see that trickle up to the

651
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Speaker 7: major leagues in the form of Peyton Toley made it

652
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Speaker 7: to big leagues in his first professional season, Connelly early

653
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Speaker 7: got to the big leagues faster. He drafted in twenty

654
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Speaker 7: twenty three, got to the big leagues faster, throwing harder

655
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Speaker 7: than really anybody reasonably expected, in a very short amount

656
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Speaker 7: of time, eighteen months after we got drafted. So it's

657
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 7: part of that whole bottom up pitching approach, and you're

658
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 7: so you're starting to see it, Uh, you know, it's

659
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 7: it's Crochet Gray, bo O, Vi Eedo, Santoval's coming back

660
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 7: from injury, Crawford's coming back from injury. Those are like

661
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Speaker 7: the top six, and then after that you got Hunter Dobbins,

662
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Speaker 7: Peyton Totley, Connolly Early, Luis Paralys is a super interesting prospect,

663
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Speaker 7: and then behind them, further away, Kyson Witherspoon, first round

664
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Speaker 7: draft pick in June might open the season in Double A,

665
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Speaker 7: which would be a heck of a feet that would

666
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Speaker 7: put him with success, not a guarantee on the major

667
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 7: league radar for by the end of the season. So

668
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Speaker 7: the Red Sox like their pitching pipeline. The proof is

669
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Speaker 7: starting to be in the pudding. But you know, whether

670
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Speaker 7: they groom, whether they have a homegrown number two in

671
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Speaker 7: their time will tell.

672
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Speaker 4: Okay, Sonny Gray, Yeah, took shots at the Red Sox

673
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Speaker 4: or the Yankees.

674
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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fun.

675
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: Hunter Dobbins shots at the Yankees. Schlitler, Yeah, took his

676
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 4: shots at the Red Sox fans. Do we have Yankee

677
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: Red Sox back now? Is it back to what it was.

678
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: Ten to fifteen, twenty years ago? Back? It's the three?

679
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Speaker 6: Oh, it would be so hard to be that hot. True,

680
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 6: but I would have.

681
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Speaker 4: Got actual players now taking shots, yes, at organizations and fans.

682
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's good stuff, right.

683
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 7: I fully support all of those players in those endeavors.

684
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Speaker 6: I think it's a lot of fun. Baseball's better when

685
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 6: Red Sox.

686
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Speaker 4: As much as all the fans hate it, they're like,

687
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 4: it's Red Sox Yankees again. When those two are going good,

688
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 4: nothing's better, especially when they're both really trying, like it

689
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 4: seems like they are now and they're spending the money

690
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 4: because if you remember like three to zero four, before

691
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: the Red Sox won, they're like, oh, the Yankees got

692
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: this guy. We got to go get this guy, and

693
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 4: then or the Red Sox got him with the Yankees

694
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: were like, we got to go get him.

695
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Speaker 2: So I think it's great.

696
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, I I am.

697
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 2: And it's always better when the players are talking trash.

698
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 6: That's absolutely true and better.

699
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 7: Yet when they have like bona fide animosity toward the

700
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 7: organization is one thing, but sometimes he cho that's the

701
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 7: next level right with an the benches start clear and

702
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 7: stuff like that. So it's not to that level of

703
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 7: rivalry heat right now, but we can hope.

704
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Speaker 1: Right let's charge munt. Let's get to some other signings.

705
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Speaker 1: If you're just joining us now. We spent a lot

706
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Speaker 1: of time talking about the Pee Alonzo signing and the aftermath,

707
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: but there have been a few other little moves. Gregory

708
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: Soto signs with the Pirates. That was late last night.

709
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: One year, seven point seventy five million dollars. You can't

710
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: just look at Era. We get told that over and

711
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: over again, especially with a reliever you know, it's a

712
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: low fours Thera pitching for Baltimore and the Mets.

713
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 2: He's a guy though.

714
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Speaker 4: Remember when he was with the Tigers, he was an

715
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 4: All Star and people are like, this is the next

716
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 4: great pitcher, and he was, and then he got traded

717
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 4: in then he had the thing where he couldn't you know,

718
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 4: he wanted to be the closer and they're like, you

719
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 4: don't throw enough strikes, and it's.

720
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Speaker 2: He's one of those guys.

721
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Speaker 4: It's like he's got all the stuff in the world,

722
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 4: but Candy harness it and maybe the Pirates can figure

723
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Speaker 4: it out.

724
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 5: Okay, sure, but hey, you know what they moved. They moved.

725
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: They moved. They moved in the direction of what do

726
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,359
Speaker 5: you need. You need a solid seventh eight inning guy,

727
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 5: You need to have a closer in the bullpen. I

728
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 5: think they already have those pieces set, so I think

729
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 5: adding a guy like this Gregorysoto just a one year deal.

730
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Speaker 5: I love that they went and went into the pocket.

731
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Speaker 5: Did the job. Now, like we talk about the Orioles,

732
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Speaker 5: what's the next thing some offense the Orioles that was

733
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 5: starting pitching. We'll see if they do something the Pirates.

734
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 5: Awesome job, great job, Pirates, Pirates, great job. Make sure

735
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Speaker 5: you guys clip that.

736
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Speaker 1: I don't even I've been so busy, I don't even

737
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: know what you're referring to in terms of the bit

738
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: roll that you're dealing with, but I guess I'll check

739
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: it out. On socials, we also have a show called

740
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: Bucko Territory. I encourage you to check that out for

741
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: more on this signing and what the Tigers or excuse me,

742
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: the Pirates are up to. But speaking of the Tigers,

743
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Kyle Finnigan two years, nineteen million bucks, so he was

744
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: more coveted this offseason and he moved over to the

745
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Speaker 1: team that ends up signing him back.

746
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Speaker 3: Remember he had a hard time.

747
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,879
Speaker 2: He did really well for the Tigers too.

748
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they had the splitter usage skyrocket.

749
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Speaker 4: And he was really good for him. So he did

750
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 4: really well this offseason. Great guy, good guess when we've

751
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 4: had him on. So I'm happy for him. And listen,

752
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 4: that's a nice piece will Vest and some of the

753
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 4: other guys that they have, some of the younger guys

754
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 4: that they have, and you throw Finnigan into the back

755
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 4: end of this bullpen. Now they still need a starter

756
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 4: for me, and they still need another bullpen piece and

757
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 4: they still need a bat and.

758
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: They got to figure out.

759
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 4: We didn't have time with hint yesterday, but I just

760
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 4: wanted to know how they figure out how to cut

761
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 4: down the strikeouts they have, because if you watched their

762
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 4: and I will obviously watch their playoff series, their playoff

763
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: series was all strikeouts like this, struck out. I was

764
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 4: fifteen times a game. It was everybody, strikeout, striker, strike out.

765
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Speaker 4: I Thinkerry Carboner would come up and hit a home run.

766
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 4: Other than that, it was like strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, strikeout,

767
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 4: And it's a hard way to live.

768
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Speaker 5: I think.

769
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Speaker 3: The answer, by the way, Kratz, I'll say, after you.

770
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Speaker 5: Say, what's that, I didn't hear what you said.

771
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: The answer, well, I mean, do you remember Aj Perzinski

772
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: said to Aj Hinch, I wish we had more time.

773
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you about the swing and miss

774
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I don't know, you might have gotten lost.

775
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: And then another conversation with someone, but he was like,

776
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,879
Speaker 1: when our guys go up to the dish, they are

777
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: trying to make contact.

778
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 4: Well, I understand I know this, Listen, I trust I

779
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 4: know they are trying to make contact. There's an old

780
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 4: saying I can get anybody to try right, like I

781
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: can get any something to try right. But you can

782
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,800
Speaker 4: listen as a guy that made a lot of contact,

783
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 4: and I was, there was a couple I went to

784
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 4: some teams and like, hey, we want you to take more. Well,

785
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 4: then it took away what I was good at, which

786
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: was making contact.

787
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: So there is a fine line of but I think

788
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: there are ways to make more contact.

789
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 4: But he also said if you remember what he also

790
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: said though, he goes, sometimes guys take too many and

791
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: then they fall behind instead of being aggressive and getting

792
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 4: three swings instead of two swings or one swing. He's like,

793
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 4: so there's a there's a way to do it. That's

794
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 4: I just wish, you know. That's why Bragmant I feel

795
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 4: like fits so well for them. But the high content

796
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 4: and then he can teach some of these other guys,

797
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: hey you're looking for this pitch, don't miss it again.

798
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: They're not trying to miss it. I mean, no one

799
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: ever wanted to strike out well, Adam done it a

800
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 2: couple of times. Best line ever, I'd just strike out

801
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,879
Speaker 2: Donner because I thought I was going to hit into

802
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: a double play, so I figured only make one out

803
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 2: instead of two. So are those.

804
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 5: Guys I think. I think the Tiger's going in on

805
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 5: Finnegan here show that the eighteen innings that he threw

806
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 5: for them and then subsequently into the playoffs, the bump

807
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 5: in the strikeout rate is what the issue was with

808
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:14,479
Speaker 5: his value, his value on the trade market two years ago.

809
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,879
Speaker 5: Finally the Tigers went and got him, and we looked

810
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 5: at him and we go Tigers needed to pick up

811
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 5: strikeout guys, and they didn't get one in Finegan, who

812
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 5: was averaging less than one per inning. And when he

813
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 5: went there, I think it was like twenty three or

814
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 5: twenty five strikeouts and eighteen innings. Like they used that

815
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 5: splitter a little bit differently than it was being used

816
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 5: in Washington, and so I think that's awesome. That's that's

817
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 5: huge value there. I think it shows that eighteen million

818
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 5: two years for closer, eighth inning guy type is you

819
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: know what you're looking for and to add leverage to

820
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 5: your bullpen probably you know, maybe not the closer that

821
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 5: the Robert Suarez are, the Pete Fairbanks type, but I mean, good,

822
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 5: good for the Tigers. They still need more strikeouts. They

823
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 5: didn't take their strikeouts from their lineup and put them

824
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 5: in the bullpen, and the bullpen guys who don't strike

825
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 5: out much many many batters. The hitters need to take it,

826
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 5: take advantage of that.

827
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: And hey, I don't want to say we're being tough

828
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: on Detroit, but it's more of a motivational thing.

829
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: This team is close. They've got some pieces here that can.

830
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: More coming to the next level, some more coming. They've

831
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: gone to go there with sax Fark when joke comes back, Melton,

832
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 4: if he takes the next step as a starter and

833
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 4: I do it is legit.

834
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, and think about it.

835
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: They were that close to take them down, the Mariners,

836
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: who were that close to taking down the Blue Jays.

837
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 5: What a place it was this playoffs, it was this

838
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 5: is the year like this. If you don't trade Schoogle,

839
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 5: we talked about it yesterday, you gotta go all in.

840
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 5: What does that all in look like? Small pieces like

841
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 5: Kyle Finnegan,