WEBVTT - Fright-con #40: Count Dracula

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to my home. Enter freely of your own will

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<v Speaker 1>and leave some of the happiness you bring. I am Drunk. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to this spinoff episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Of Der Daily Zeitgeist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Which we're calling the Iconograph or the Frightconograph.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead of looking at the Zeitgeist through current events on

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<v Speaker 2>Monday morning, we're looking at the Zeitgeist through the powerful

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<v Speaker 2>pop culture deities that are our icons.

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<v Speaker 1>Or now that it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Spooky season now that it's october the powerful pop cultural

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<v Speaker 2>demons who are our fright cons oh uh and we're

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<v Speaker 2>kicking we're kicking our october zeitcon fright con season off

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<v Speaker 2>uh with a character who i feel like is the

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<v Speaker 2>main character of spooky season like i feel like he's

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<v Speaker 2>as close to Santa Claus as we got for Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like a character, yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it's the first one you go to

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<v Speaker 2>for Halloween. We're talking about the most depicted literary character

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of film and TV. An allegory for

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<v Speaker 2>the evils of capitalism. That has gone on to make

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<v Speaker 2>billions and billions of dollars. The original Batman, probably not

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<v Speaker 2>our scariest icon of horror, but with apologies to the Wolfman,

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<v Speaker 2>he's probably the horniest. I think he might have been

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<v Speaker 2>the thing who discovered the fear bone is connected to our...

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<v Speaker 2>Horny bone. But yeah, he's evolved over time from an

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<v Speaker 2>unkempt Jerry Garcia looking old guy to a suave fuck

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<v Speaker 2>boy rocking a cape, slick back hair, sloppy steaks, sloppy

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<v Speaker 2>because they've been stabbed through his heart.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Dracula!

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<v Speaker 4>Dracula!

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Count Jackula O'Brien. I'm one of the

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<v Speaker 2>founders of Cracked and I want to suck your blood.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm thrilled to be joined by my co-host, He

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<v Speaker 2>can hollow out a Reese's cup, leaving behind a hollow

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<v Speaker 2>chocolate shell with two little puncture wounds.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Miles Gray! Hey, I want to suck your blood.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, nice. Please. That was a pretty good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm anemic. I need it. Oh, man. Yeah, this is...

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, I think when I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>how common this is, I just... Let's... We'll introduce the guest,

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<v Speaker 1>but were you Dracula ever for Halloween? Were you ever

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<v Speaker 1>a vampire? I've been Dracula recently.

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<v Speaker 2>Dracula is an easy one because we had to go

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<v Speaker 2>to a Halloween party with fancy people one time. What

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean? Not comedians that you work with?

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<v Speaker 5>The Transylvanian royal family?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like these British people we know through our kids' school.

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<v Speaker 1>The royal family? You're describing these British people. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have a last name.

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<v Speaker 2>The vibe so i thought it was a halloween it

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<v Speaker 2>was a it was a mini uh baba duke situation

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<v Speaker 2>where like i thought it was gonna be full halloween

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<v Speaker 2>costumes and i like had like dracula makeup dracula fangs

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<v Speaker 2>like blood coming out of my mouth and like everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else was just like in a uh tuxedo with an

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<v Speaker 2>arrow through their head or something like that you know

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<v Speaker 2>what i mean yeah and i was like in a uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Halloween store costume. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You still understood the assignment.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyways, uh, in our third seat, a brilliant comedian, writer, actor, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>special daddy, long legs, uh, very, very spooky spider. That's

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<v Speaker 2>a damn spider. And also a reference to his amazing legs. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you must go watch a special, uh, right now. He's

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<v Speaker 2>one of your favorite guests. On the other hand, he

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<v Speaker 2>is the coiner of the disgusting phrase plumpers to describe

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<v Speaker 2>his own thighs. Uh, he's fine with garlic, uh, But

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<v Speaker 2>when he sees a crucifix or a lowercase T, he

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<v Speaker 2>bursts into flames.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Blake Wexler!

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<v Speaker 5>Hey, this is Blake Wexler, a.k.a.

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<v Speaker 1>Blakeula.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's great to be on a show with two

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<v Speaker 5>other guys that you don't want to invite in your

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<v Speaker 5>home under any circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't leave. You invited me in. No, you can't.

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<v Speaker 5>You invited me in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you ran out of food. You should have had

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<v Speaker 5>more food if you didn't want me to eat all

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<v Speaker 5>of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Cause when, when I was in like visiting you and

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<v Speaker 1>I kept saying, yeah, we can stop by your place. Like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go to this bar. We'll go to this bar. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 5>The bar is inches away from your home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>But it's, you know, it's separate.

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<v Speaker 1>Also like I'm really close to your place and I

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<v Speaker 1>can just walk. No, no, no. We'll go to the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want you in my home. If I can

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<v Speaker 1>make that.

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<v Speaker 5>45 minutes in the opposite direction, I think is maybe

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<v Speaker 5>the better way to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Dracula always inviting people to his house though. He's like,

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, yeah, come through. It's like the ultimate Hollywood

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<v Speaker 2>power move, you know? Yeah. Even though people keep disappearing,

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<v Speaker 2>he makes you come to him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's true.

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<v Speaker 5>I wonder if you can stop laughing at what, what

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<v Speaker 5>Jack O'Brien considers to be a fancy person, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>like that's what, where it's either just English. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Just an accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>We went to their one bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like fancy people.

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<v Speaker 2>I do just want to talk about the horniness of vampires.

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<v Speaker 2>Our horniness for vampires. The horniness that emanates off of vampires.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like horses.

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<v Speaker 1>In what way? Because they're just foaming?

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<v Speaker 5>They make them all horny. Horses make everybody horny. Vampires

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<v Speaker 5>make everybody horny. Let me pull up my therapist notebook

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<v Speaker 5>real quick.

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<v Speaker 1>What was your first encounter with a horse? I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like we'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Only be talking about that if we kept going in

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<v Speaker 2>that direction. So we're just going to pretend that that's

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<v Speaker 2>a thing that everybody gets. It's horny for horses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a blink. Blink never gets turned by a

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<v Speaker 1>vampire because it creeps them out. Oh, come on through.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. It's kind of like 40 horses in here. What?

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<v Speaker 2>He like starts doing the mind thing where he like

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<v Speaker 2>controls you into coming to his house and you're already

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<v Speaker 2>behind him. How'd you get here already? Hey, man. Hey, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever seen a horse without any clothes on? No, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 2>They never have clothes on.

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<v Speaker 1>What are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, bro.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I said come over tonight, but I'm actually

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<v Speaker 4>thinking of having like a quiet one tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on in. Bring whoever you want.

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<v Speaker 2>I like quiet if you don't mind the sound of

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<v Speaker 2>me breathing. But it's so... the vampires got hornier and hornier.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that, but like, I will say, like, I

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<v Speaker 2>went back and watched the, uh, end of Nosferatu, the 1920s, like, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>silent film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And that shit is horny as hell. Like, the climax has,

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<v Speaker 2>he travels a lot via shadow. Like, his shadow can, like,

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<v Speaker 2>open doors. The special effect they did is they used

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<v Speaker 2>the shadow of his hand and then had somebody on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side open the door.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that.

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<v Speaker 2>But at one point, he does grab a boob. Really?

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<v Speaker 2>And the woman, like, with his shadow hand, and the

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<v Speaker 2>woman reacts in, like... Agony slash ecstasy.

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<v Speaker 1>Disappointed? Shadow? Doesn't even count.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Why even bring it up? I will say, like.

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<v Speaker 2>This research allowed me to step back and see the

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<v Speaker 2>vampire that defined, I feel like, the past couple decades

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<v Speaker 2>with new eyes. 2004, a woman has a dream about

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<v Speaker 2>a vampire who wants to fuck a teenage girl. She

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<v Speaker 2>wakes up and even though she's not a writer, she

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<v Speaker 2>writes a novel based on that dream called Twilight. And

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<v Speaker 2>people were so horny about For that movie, it made

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<v Speaker 2>like that book that the resulting movies made three point

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<v Speaker 2>three billion dollars, launched the careers of two of the

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<v Speaker 2>most important actors of their generation. And then it like

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<v Speaker 2>spawned an entire second fan fiction book like Fifty Shades

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<v Speaker 2>of Grey is just Twilight fan fiction that it was

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<v Speaker 2>just like starting from the premise of what if they

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<v Speaker 2>just fucked each other on every page, essentially.

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<v Speaker 1>And wait, is he a vampire? It's like a, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a spiritual. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like they, this is a thing that happened throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the history of Dracula is that like they, um, will

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<v Speaker 2>do a rip off and then like erase the things

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<v Speaker 2>that make it clear that it's a rip off and

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<v Speaker 2>it like still does well.

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<v Speaker 5>It's identical.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But yeah, they were just like, ah, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>he's not a vampire. That one's still that movie franchise

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<v Speaker 2>made $ 1. 3 billion, 50 shades of gray. So I just

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<v Speaker 2>feel like we're so deeply horny for vampires that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Like, the Twilight books, just to put

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<v Speaker 2>this in perspective, this book that, like, launched this massive

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<v Speaker 2>movie franchise, I'm going to read you a passage from

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<v Speaker 2>that book. Aren't you hungry, he asked, distracted. No, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel like mentioning that my stomach was already full

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<v Speaker 2>of butterflies. jesus christ um so like that's the level

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<v Speaker 2>of that's deep it's evident that she's not a writer

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the novel and yet people are like yeah oh

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<v Speaker 2>man if only yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Keep writing sorry i'm not a writer this was the

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<v Speaker 5>best i could do under the circumstances the circumstances being

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<v Speaker 5>i was so horny when i woke up from this

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<v Speaker 5>dream i changed careers well yeah what was she doing

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<v Speaker 5>before that was she just some this was like she

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<v Speaker 5>was young and just kind of had this vision came

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<v Speaker 5>to her and i'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 2>What she was doing i just know like they people

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<v Speaker 2>are like she didn't have much experience writing but this

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<v Speaker 2>dream was so profound that she banged out a entire novel. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. I do just want to start. Dracula is

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<v Speaker 2>a Laura queen. So I just want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>like the things we know about Dracula. Uh, we've already

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<v Speaker 2>talked about one need to be invited in. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like this one is among the most consistent, right? Every,

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<v Speaker 2>every Dracula, uh, needs, you know, you need to actually

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<v Speaker 2>ask them to come in. Otherwise, otherwise they're, it's pretty,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty big, uh, easy way to get around them.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Um, where did that, was that an original that's, that's,

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<v Speaker 1>that's can't like that's OG cannon vampire stuff. Or is

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<v Speaker 1>that like an add on? Cause I know the story's

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<v Speaker 1>morphed over years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that one was added, as we'll get to.

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<v Speaker 2>A bunch of these were patchworked together. Right. Vaguely Euro

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<v Speaker 2>accent that is from the start. Vaguely Euro horniness that

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<v Speaker 2>is also there from the start. Don't appear in mirrors.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if that's in the original. Shadows that

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<v Speaker 2>can freelance. Nosferatu's shadow can open doors In Francis Ford

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<v Speaker 2>Coppola's Dracula His shadow just starts like doing its own

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<v Speaker 2>thing In Dracula Dead and Loving It Leslie Nielsen's shadow

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<v Speaker 2>starts fucking someone While they're dancing I forgot about that

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a good title for a movie It's.

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<v Speaker 6>Always so funny Dead and Loving.

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<v Speaker 1>It Oh fuck I gotta watch that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleep in coffin. I feel like that's pretty core, right?

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<v Speaker 2>I have to have incredible core strength the way that

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<v Speaker 2>they rise up out of the coffin. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying?

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<v Speaker 5>Who's holding their feet? That's not disgusting enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, that's just all core, dude. They're just working that core.

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<v Speaker 5>The human body can't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember that clip of Adam Archuleta being on his

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<v Speaker 1>back and just using his hamstrings to lift himself up?

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<v Speaker 5>As a matter of fact, yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know that clip?

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<v Speaker 5>I do, exactly. That's when I realized that my body

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<v Speaker 5>will never work the way I want it to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>When I saw someone do that, it'd be that strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you become a vampire by being turned by other vampires, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>sunlight kills or harms or makes sparkle in the case

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<v Speaker 2>of twilight. Um, That one started with Nosferatu, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to drink blood to survive. They're immortal, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the immortality has the biggest asterisk of all time. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many ways to kill them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like we're immortal except for heart disease.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like their immortality is just like, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>can't die of cancer or old age. Like, other than that,

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<v Speaker 2>they're pretty normal.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Um, I feel like they have floating abilities of varying

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<v Speaker 2>levels in my experience, you know, like sometimes they'll float

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<v Speaker 2>up to a window or just like kind of go

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<v Speaker 2>down a hallway. Like they're on those, uh, those shoes

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<v Speaker 2>that have little wheels in it, you know, wheelies. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 2>their kryptonite is cross or garlic or, yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>those are the main ones, right?

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<v Speaker 5>Silver bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Or is that just, No, that's werewolf.

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<v Speaker 2>What is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck me. Stake through the heart?

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<v Speaker 2>Stake through the heart and you're to blame. You give

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<v Speaker 2>love a bad name. Buffy Summers. It used to need

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<v Speaker 2>to be wooden, but now I don't think it does.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of werewolves, I feel like their enemy being werewolves

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<v Speaker 2>is one that has just become canon. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>where that one came from. That is not one that

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up with.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Almost a default where who else would it be? Like ghosts?

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<v Speaker 2>No. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 5>Like what other evil beast?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. It does kind of make the most sense. And

0:14:12.710 --> 0:14:16.810
<v Speaker 2>they are both kind of horny, you know? True. Ken

0:14:16.850 --> 0:14:20.520
<v Speaker 2>talked you through in your mind and get you to sleepwalk.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the one where it's like starting to verge

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<v Speaker 2>on too many powers for me. Like when you hear

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<v Speaker 2>kids playing and they're like, I have ice powers, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm also invincible and my arms are machine guns.

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<v Speaker 1>I can fly. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I can fly. And it like starts getting boring. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>but I will say, I think the main core piece

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<v Speaker 2>of iconography is the fangs. Uh, and this is something

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<v Speaker 2>that I feel like we talked about a lot on

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<v Speaker 2>the early episodes of the daily zeitgeist. Um, My fascination

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<v Speaker 2>with this idea that their fangs are hollow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Which, like, did you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Have that belief? Blake, did you have that? That I

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<v Speaker 2>was fascinated by it? That their fangs... can suck blood through.

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<v Speaker 1>The fang them did you did you have that belief.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah wait are you saying it like that now that

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<v Speaker 5>okay so this is one of those things where you

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<v Speaker 5>think something and then someone starts talking you're like wait

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<v Speaker 5>no no no no no no i didn't so in

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<v Speaker 5>my mind they would suck it like a straw like

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<v Speaker 5>they were straws yeah yeah but now for the first

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<v Speaker 5>time i'm thinking maybe they just bite you and then

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<v Speaker 5>suck suck you off through your.

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<v Speaker 2>Neck yeah because of the wound So that's, yes. But

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<v Speaker 2>so many people, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this came up because of the Reese's peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter cup commercial, too. Because I think when we first

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about that, we were like, well, the way

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<v Speaker 1>that the vampire bites the Reese's peanut butter cup would

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<v Speaker 1>imply that he just put his fangs in to get

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<v Speaker 1>all the peanut butter out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the peanut butter traveled up through his fangs.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's why when you made that joke, I was like, okay. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>you're like, it's not a joke. That's not a joke.

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<v Speaker 5>That's a thing that a vampire did.

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<v Speaker 1>I will say, based on the Reese's commercial, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>it has to be, although I don't think there's anything

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<v Speaker 1>else to support that they have straw fangs.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having this conversation with my friend this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>With my son.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, sure. He's my best friend. And he was like, yeah, no, like,

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<v Speaker 2>that is the thing everyone thought when they were a child,

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<v Speaker 2>and now we all know it's not true. But I

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<v Speaker 2>never went through that process until, like, we mentioned it

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<v Speaker 2>on the show and I realized how dumb it is. Um,

0:16:34.240 --> 0:16:38.380
<v Speaker 2>but he, he was saying that like, even the Reese's one,

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<v Speaker 2>you could theoretically have the vampire sucking through the two

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<v Speaker 2>little puncture holes and sucking the peanut butter up. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think like that, that's gonna, that, that implies

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<v Speaker 2>a level of structural integrity of the chocolate that just

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<v Speaker 2>seems impossible to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. Sure. Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it's like, we all see the two

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<v Speaker 2>little puncture wounds on the vampire victim's neck. And assume

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<v Speaker 2>that it's just teeth go in and they're like zoop, zoop, zoop.

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<v Speaker 2>Sipping blood through the puncture holes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it did lead me because I thought, well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>what about like venomous snakes? Like they kind of have that,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's really, it's bugs.

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<v Speaker 2>That is exactly what was in my brain was that

0:17:21.970 --> 0:17:25.389
<v Speaker 2>snakes have poison that comes out through the fangs. So

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<v Speaker 2>there are hollow, hollow fang teeth in nature.

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<v Speaker 1>But not for sucking in.

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<v Speaker 2>But it doesn't go that direction. Yeah, it never goes

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<v Speaker 2>that direction.

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<v Speaker 1>It's only like truly like mosquitoes. It's like certain bugs

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<v Speaker 1>that have that whole ability.

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<v Speaker 5>But they don't use teeth.

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<v Speaker 1>They have a.

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<v Speaker 2>They got a little proboscis. A proboscis. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>A proboscis. They have a proboscis.

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<v Speaker 5>Elephants, you know, they suck in things through their nose.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm. That's how they eat.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they?

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<v Speaker 2>I know that they can suck up water through their

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<v Speaker 2>nose and then spray that shit out. So, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>That's not how they, yeah, they wouldn't eat. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>eat a bowl of spaghetti through their nose.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, give them a couple of water mounds right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I did find a, there's a movie called Sundown the

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<v Speaker 2>Vampire in Retreat. where vampires from around the world have

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<v Speaker 2>come together to form their own town in the U.S.

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<v Speaker 2>Southwest and agreed to no longer prey on humans. As

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<v Speaker 2>part of that deal, they're manufacturing a synthetic blood substitute,

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<v Speaker 2>which we see them drinking at various points using forked

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<v Speaker 2>straws that their fangs plug into.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of a movie. That's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. That's the one with Bruce Campbell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the one with Bruce Campbell.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember. Man, I remember seeing that when I

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<v Speaker 1>was a kid. Wait, so they were drinking. Oh, interesting.

0:18:45.950 --> 0:18:48.699
<v Speaker 1>They give credence to... They give something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We do have some.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I also went and this is not something I'm proud of.

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<v Speaker 2>I went and Googled like, oh yeah, well, how do

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<v Speaker 2>vampire bats? Yeah, I bet they suck your blood through

0:18:59.670 --> 0:19:03.719
<v Speaker 2>hollow little straws in their teeth. And the way they

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<v Speaker 2>do it is actually really gross. They shave your skin

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit so it starts bleeding and then they

0:19:10.130 --> 0:19:13.490
<v Speaker 2>lap the blood up, which is so fucking gross.

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<v Speaker 5>And it has like a numbing agent, right? And there's

0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.460
<v Speaker 5>saliva or something. So you don't even notice it? How

0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:22.000
<v Speaker 5>do you know that, Blake? That's such a weird fact.

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<v Speaker 5>I know a lot about animals, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 5>I know three things. I know animals, Uh, Philadelphia sports.

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<v Speaker 5>I know two things. I know animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Philadelphia sports. And Philadelphia sports animals.

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<v Speaker 5>It's Philadelphia sports animals and safeties, uh, from the early 2000s.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it because you had like those like, um, animal

0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:44.430
<v Speaker 1>fact notebooks from like the nineties? I read all those.

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<v Speaker 5>So many animal, like all animal facts, like Nat Geo subscription, um,

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<v Speaker 5>um and also why and they like in my mind

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<v Speaker 5>a vampire bat would bite your neck but i think

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<v Speaker 5>they just go after your feet like your ankles you

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<v Speaker 5>know like uh i think they used to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah i don't like that either yeah no get them

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<v Speaker 2>out yeah that the idea of like just not realizing

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<v Speaker 2>that something is lapping the blood out of your I think.

0:20:08.369 --> 0:20:12.510
<v Speaker 1>It's usually animals, right? It's like a guy who's like, hey, Rick,

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<v Speaker 1>you got a bat on your friggin' arm, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 5>Shit i need to pay more attention my wife says

0:20:18.660 --> 0:20:21.350
<v Speaker 5>i need to pay more attention she's still.

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<v Speaker 2>Hasn't still hasn't pushed the bat away yeah.

0:20:23.609 --> 0:20:25.770
<v Speaker 1>He turns around there's like six on his back.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a quick break we'll come back and we

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<v Speaker 2>will get into the history of dracula where this fucking

0:20:36.390 --> 0:20:51.070
<v Speaker 2>crazy guy came from we'll be right back And we're back.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk Bram Stoker because that's where we first get

0:20:55.930 --> 0:21:03.080
<v Speaker 2>the name Dracula, the character Dracula. Bram Stoker. What a name, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit. Nice. He wrote this book that was not

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<v Speaker 2>that successful as we'll get to in its time. When

0:21:11.940 --> 0:21:15.420
<v Speaker 2>he died, he was like a well-known enough person to

0:21:15.460 --> 0:21:20.400
<v Speaker 2>get obituaries. Dracula was not mentioned in his obituaries. That's

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<v Speaker 2>how not big a deal it was in his time.

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<v Speaker 1>What was he known for? What else did he do?

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<v Speaker 2>He was a publisher and a literary manager and was

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<v Speaker 2>friends with Oscar Wilde and just kind of friends with

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<v Speaker 2>famous people and the assistant to an actor. When he

0:21:41.250 --> 0:21:43.330
<v Speaker 2>wrote the book, the thing he was known for was

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<v Speaker 2>being an assistant to an actor, which is not a

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<v Speaker 2>thing anyone's known for these days. So I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it must have had some different connotation back then. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>just like people knew him because he had the coolest

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<v Speaker 2>name of anybody ever. They're just like, there goes that guy,

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<v Speaker 2>Bram Stoker.

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<v Speaker 1>The ball player?

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, no, he sounds like a ball player.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Bram Stoker. Doesn't even matter what sport. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He, at the time, also seemed to be a little

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:09.700
<v Speaker 2>ashamed of the book. He was like, I had a

0:22:10.130 --> 0:22:14.909
<v Speaker 2>too generous helping of dressed crab before going to bed

0:22:14.930 --> 0:22:18.929
<v Speaker 2>at night. And I had some terrible dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>Was that food poisoning?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah basically which and then everybody like he said that

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<v Speaker 2>and then all the scholars are like it's a bit

0:22:28.220 --> 0:22:31.320
<v Speaker 2>of blarney that he likes to dish out when asked

0:22:31.400 --> 0:22:34.460
<v Speaker 2>like nobody well no one takes it seriously like people

0:22:34.500 --> 0:22:38.110
<v Speaker 2>seem like to really hate that explanation but i will

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<v Speaker 2>say like i've had some fucked up dreams from after

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<v Speaker 2>like after eating something weird yeah after dressed crab dressed

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<v Speaker 2>crab is hollowed out crab where like They've taken the

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<v Speaker 2>meat out and put it back in, like, without all

0:22:51.450 --> 0:22:52.750
<v Speaker 2>the annoying shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's not wearing, like, a ball gown.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not. Yeah, it's not wearing a ball gown, unfortunately.

0:22:57.170 --> 0:22:59.120
<v Speaker 2>That's what I was looking for. But I've had, like,

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.580
<v Speaker 2>crazy cheese dreams and beef mares and stuff like that,

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you know? Beef mares? You've never had beef mares? You've

0:23:07.500 --> 0:23:09.119
<v Speaker 2>never eaten beef and then just had, like, a fucked.

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<v Speaker 1>Up night's sleep? It's like a strong horse.

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<v Speaker 5>This is what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, God.

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<v Speaker 5>Sexy horses, beef mares.

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<v Speaker 1>A strong lady horse? It's a beef mare right there. Damn,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Beef mare.

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<v Speaker 1>Beef mare. Wait, okay. No, I've never... I had a

0:23:20.820 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>friend who also... You've never had fucked up dreams from food?

0:23:22.780 --> 0:23:24.939
<v Speaker 1>I had a friend who would have nightmares... Like, not nightmares,

0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:28.430
<v Speaker 1>but have some wild dreams when they had, like, spicy food. Like,

0:23:28.530 --> 0:23:31.609
<v Speaker 1>usually if they had a spicy Thai or Indian meal. Like,

0:23:31.630 --> 0:23:35.590
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't... It was like those levels of spice completely

0:23:35.670 --> 0:23:37.730
<v Speaker 1>destroyed his white guy brain. He's like, dude, I had

0:23:37.770 --> 0:23:40.979
<v Speaker 1>a fucking spice dream again. And I was like, what

0:23:41.000 --> 0:23:43.260
<v Speaker 1>is going on, dude?

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:44.859
<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, but okay.

0:23:45.160 --> 0:23:45.880
<v Speaker 1>I'll sweat the bed.

0:23:45.980 --> 0:23:52.780
<v Speaker 2>In his dreams, he's in a jungle. People blowing fire

0:23:52.840 --> 0:24:00.159
<v Speaker 2>in his face. Tribal masks. Because he has the hot

0:24:00.180 --> 0:24:00.960
<v Speaker 2>salsa from.

0:24:01.460 --> 0:24:03.440
<v Speaker 1>From Chipotle.

0:24:03.460 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 5>To the ground pepper.

0:24:05.900 --> 0:24:09.280
<v Speaker 1>That's why. Too much black pepper, I guess. It's a

0:24:09.300 --> 0:24:12.780
<v Speaker 1>full nightmare. Shout out to Beefmare, though. I will just say,

0:24:13.119 --> 0:24:14.550
<v Speaker 1>you know, I.

0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:22.070
<v Speaker 2>This seems to be another one of these characters that

0:24:22.109 --> 0:24:27.050
<v Speaker 2>made its way into our world from the dream world.

0:24:27.150 --> 0:24:29.850
<v Speaker 2>Stephanie Meyer got Twilight from Dreams. David Lynch got a

0:24:29.869 --> 0:24:31.690
<v Speaker 2>lot of his ideas from the unconscious world.

0:24:32.050 --> 0:24:32.530
<v Speaker 1>Garfield.

0:24:32.750 --> 0:24:38.300
<v Speaker 2>Garfield. Needless to say, came from fucking some crazy LSD world.

0:24:40.170 --> 0:24:40.630
<v Speaker 1>Nightmares.

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<v Speaker 2>But one thing that a lot of people believe is

0:24:44.660 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that the original Dracula was based on Vlad the Impaler.

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:53.860
<v Speaker 2>And that is not true. Uh, it was just, yeah.

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Blake and I are like, yep.

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.460
<v Speaker 2>Yep. And I know that's actually bullshit.

0:24:58.550 --> 0:24:59.409
<v Speaker 1>Yep. Yes.

0:24:59.630 --> 0:24:59.930
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

0:24:59.990 --> 0:25:00.570
<v Speaker 1>Do that too.

0:25:00.910 --> 0:25:04.610
<v Speaker 2>Say more, say more. Um, but yeah, the people who

0:25:04.970 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 2>first popularized the idea that Vlad, the impaler was the

0:25:08.859 --> 0:25:12.120
<v Speaker 2>basis for Dracula, uh, like wrote a book saying that

0:25:12.240 --> 0:25:15.020
<v Speaker 2>and then like found his notes. And we're like, ah,

0:25:15.060 --> 0:25:17.020
<v Speaker 2>we were wrong about that. But everyone was just like,

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:19.139
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just found out about this Vlad

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 2>the Impaler guy. That's a cool story. So we just

0:25:22.340 --> 0:25:24.619
<v Speaker 2>stuck with that. And that is kind of how the

0:25:24.660 --> 0:25:28.050
<v Speaker 2>character comes together is just like an idea will be

0:25:28.109 --> 0:25:32.090
<v Speaker 2>presented in, you know, either a play adaptation or in

0:25:32.130 --> 0:25:37.100
<v Speaker 2>this case, like some work of literary, um, criticism and

0:25:37.359 --> 0:25:40.600
<v Speaker 2>people just like grab the stuff that works and remove

0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>the stuff that doesn't work. Um, I will say Bram

0:25:44.380 --> 0:25:50.170
<v Speaker 2>Stoker's Dracula, the, uh, Francis Ford Coppola movie, uh, is like,

0:25:50.270 --> 0:25:53.430
<v Speaker 2>none of it is really based on the, the original novel.

0:25:53.570 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Like the, uh, it's got the Vlad, the impaler thing,

0:25:57.960 --> 0:26:01.060
<v Speaker 2>which is not in the original novel. It's also like

0:26:01.380 --> 0:26:03.700
<v Speaker 2>based on this idea that Dracula is like trying to

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:08.899
<v Speaker 2>reincarnate his like dead wife, which is not in it's,

0:26:09.100 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 2>it would be like naming your movie, Michael Crichton's Jurassic park.

0:26:13.260 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's like a Godzilla movie. It doesn't have anything

0:26:16.859 --> 0:26:18.679
<v Speaker 2>really to do with it.

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:22.090
<v Speaker 1>I guess there's a big reptile lizard. That's kind of

0:26:22.130 --> 0:26:23.270
<v Speaker 1>where it begins and ends.

0:26:23.970 --> 0:26:29.590
<v Speaker 2>Um, One big bonus that I think Dracula has and

0:26:29.670 --> 0:26:33.700
<v Speaker 2>had at that time is that he represents a lot

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>of like disease stuff. Like he, at the time, cholera,

0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 2>there was a big cholera outbreak and people were being

0:26:42.180 --> 0:26:46.149
<v Speaker 2>buried alive. And so that kind of came into it.

0:26:46.180 --> 0:26:48.760
<v Speaker 2>People's fear of being buried alive or fear of people

0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.670
<v Speaker 2>coming back from the dead. There was a theory that

0:26:52.730 --> 0:26:56.750
<v Speaker 2>it came in via like miasma, like mists. And Dracula

0:26:56.790 --> 0:26:59.630
<v Speaker 2>is always like traveling on mists. And so that's where

0:26:59.670 --> 0:27:01.850
<v Speaker 2>like some of that shit comes from. but then he's

0:27:01.910 --> 0:27:07.130
<v Speaker 2>able to adapt to whatever, um, like the, uh, friends

0:27:07.150 --> 0:27:09.610
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of one is very bloody and like

0:27:09.630 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 2>the blood spewing all over the place. And that's like

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:15.720
<v Speaker 2>happening during the height of the AIDS panic. And so there's,

0:27:16.300 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, like whatever the scary illnesses at the time,

0:27:20.820 --> 0:27:25.020
<v Speaker 2>Dracula is usually able to kind of plug into that,

0:27:25.680 --> 0:27:27.360
<v Speaker 2>which I think is a powerful part of his appeal.

0:27:28.070 --> 0:27:30.090
<v Speaker 5>Remember how that new Dracula, he refused to wear a

0:27:30.150 --> 0:27:36.050
<v Speaker 5>mask a couple of years ago. He refused to wear

0:27:36.070 --> 0:27:37.410
<v Speaker 5>an N95 on a plane.

0:27:39.330 --> 0:27:41.929
<v Speaker 1>The whole story was about like, yeah, lockdown and how

0:27:41.970 --> 0:27:43.629
<v Speaker 1>vampires will appear in lockdowns.

0:27:44.410 --> 0:27:46.050
<v Speaker 5>When Dracula did his own research.

0:27:46.670 --> 0:27:51.660
<v Speaker 1>Dracula did his own research, then died of COVID.

0:27:54.170 --> 0:27:56.910
<v Speaker 2>That is one of the things they're actually not immune to.

0:27:57.270 --> 0:28:05.220
<v Speaker 1>They want to take our freedoms. She's like, is there

0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 1>any way you can get me Pax Lovid, please?

0:28:09.180 --> 0:28:10.660
<v Speaker 5>Let me into her emails.

0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.290
<v Speaker 1>4chan Dracula. Like, what happened to you, bro?

0:28:20.810 --> 0:28:23.970
<v Speaker 2>The 19th century version of the vampire myth also had

0:28:24.010 --> 0:28:28.790
<v Speaker 2>evolved from a real blood disorder called porphyria, which causes

0:28:28.910 --> 0:28:33.370
<v Speaker 2>extreme sensitivity to sunlight, receding gums, which makes your teeth

0:28:33.410 --> 0:28:37.420
<v Speaker 2>look like fangs, an aversion to the sulfur content in garlic,

0:28:37.960 --> 0:28:42.430
<v Speaker 2>avoidance of mirrors due to looking like absolute shit. Um,

0:28:43.290 --> 0:28:46.260
<v Speaker 2>and blood drinking, uh, or at least people thought they

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.900
<v Speaker 2>were drinking blood. Their urine had turned a dark red.

0:28:49.180 --> 0:28:53.580
<v Speaker 2>And so people assumed people with porphyria, uh, were drinking blood.

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:58.050
<v Speaker 1>Um, terrible kidney dysfunction or something like that.

0:28:58.410 --> 0:29:02.730
<v Speaker 2>And then doctors being terrible at the time were like,

0:29:02.750 --> 0:29:06.330
<v Speaker 2>you should drink blood. That would actually help you out.

0:29:06.410 --> 0:29:09.690
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so then the people who couldn't look in the mirror,

0:29:10.150 --> 0:29:14.470
<v Speaker 1>were afraid of garlic, didn't like garlic, had kind of

0:29:14.550 --> 0:29:18.430
<v Speaker 1>messed up teeth, vampire-esque teeth, were peeing blood and were

0:29:18.470 --> 0:29:21.260
<v Speaker 1>drinking blood, and everyone knew that about them, and they're like, yeah,

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I think we've seen, I think we have a character

0:29:23.020 --> 0:29:23.740
<v Speaker 1>on our hands here.

0:29:23.760 --> 0:29:24.500
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:31.340
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like just generally, like, disease, like having

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:35.670
<v Speaker 2>a monster that kind of represents... disease is pretty load

0:29:35.710 --> 0:29:39.060
<v Speaker 2>bearing because that is the thing that kills most people

0:29:39.260 --> 0:29:43.300
<v Speaker 2>you know and so it's like it's a pretty big

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:48.620
<v Speaker 2>one to have and like history is like life used

0:29:48.660 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>to just be full of horrors you just like see

0:29:51.920 --> 0:29:55.330
<v Speaker 2>people with like their faces caved in by syphilis walking

0:29:55.370 --> 0:30:00.310
<v Speaker 2>down the street And or like porphyria. And then like

0:30:00.490 --> 0:30:05.390
<v Speaker 2>when if you got sick, like the people who had porphyria,

0:30:05.450 --> 0:30:08.650
<v Speaker 2>like hundreds of them were burned at the stake by

0:30:08.670 --> 0:30:12.760
<v Speaker 2>the Catholic Church. Just like they died for grossing for

0:30:12.840 --> 0:30:14.820
<v Speaker 2>grossing out the Catholic Church, essentially.

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:17.260
<v Speaker 1>Oh, they're like, yeah.

0:30:17.840 --> 0:30:18.860
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly.

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 5>Do you think mummies was like that whole concept is

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 5>from the same thing where there is some sort of

0:30:23.340 --> 0:30:24.820
<v Speaker 5>illness where you had to be wrapped in?

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:26.380
<v Speaker 1>Gauze or something?

0:30:26.420 --> 0:30:31.780
<v Speaker 2>Mummies, I think, came a lot from them discussing the British,

0:30:32.220 --> 0:30:35.660
<v Speaker 2>you know, colonial power. Trying to say mother. Yeah, trying

0:30:35.680 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>to say mother. I think Egypt, like, seeing how Egypt

0:30:41.030 --> 0:30:43.990
<v Speaker 2>preserved their dead and then, like, that spooked them out.

0:30:44.030 --> 0:30:49.190
<v Speaker 2>We'll get to how Dracula, when he initially came around, was, like,

0:30:49.840 --> 0:30:53.620
<v Speaker 2>killed by like in terms of sales was like, uh,

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:58.540
<v Speaker 2>got his ass beat by this like Egyptian based monster. Um,

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:03.020
<v Speaker 2>damn Dracula. Uh, the other thing it was Dracula was

0:31:03.060 --> 0:31:06.300
<v Speaker 2>kind of the original Blair witch because the book was

0:31:06.360 --> 0:31:09.440
<v Speaker 2>written as like, this shit actually happened. Here are a

0:31:09.500 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 2>series of letters from people who this happened to. And

0:31:14.380 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 2>I actually know all those people. And they like they

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:23.200
<v Speaker 2>had to take it back a step, essentially, because the

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 2>publisher was like, this is actually too fucking scary, bro.

0:31:27.300 --> 0:31:30.510
<v Speaker 2>Like the Jack the Ripper murders just happened. We can't

0:31:30.550 --> 0:31:36.190
<v Speaker 2>we can't be having this book tell people that vampires

0:31:36.250 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 2>are real. Um, so they had to like, take it,

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:39.800
<v Speaker 2>take it a step back.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:42.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that must've been like seeing video for people

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.940
<v Speaker 1>of that time when they're like, these are letters that

0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:45.740
<v Speaker 1>are real.

0:31:45.820 --> 0:31:52.590
<v Speaker 2>He knows those people. That must have been terrifying.

0:31:52.610 --> 0:31:53.830
<v Speaker 5>We knew that because he said that.

0:31:54.270 --> 0:31:54.710
<v Speaker 1>Right, right, right.

0:31:54.890 --> 0:31:55.470
<v Speaker 5>He said that.

0:31:55.850 --> 0:31:58.770
<v Speaker 1>And we don't have the cynicism built up from modernity yet.

0:31:58.790 --> 0:32:01.530
<v Speaker 1>So we're like, whoa. He said she's a woman of

0:32:01.570 --> 0:32:04.830
<v Speaker 1>good character. Can't lie about that.

0:32:06.130 --> 0:32:10.860
<v Speaker 2>Bram Stoker wouldn't lie about something like that. So, yeah,

0:32:10.940 --> 0:32:16.420
<v Speaker 2>the book drops and it's a moderate success. It was

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.550
<v Speaker 2>outsold six to one by a book called The Beetle.

0:32:21.180 --> 0:32:26.320
<v Speaker 2>About a shape-shifting, gender-swapping beetle monster seeking revenge on its

0:32:26.400 --> 0:32:31.620
<v Speaker 2>former sex slave. And this, like, is based in, like, scarabs,

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:35.180
<v Speaker 2>I think, are associated with Egypt. And the original, it's like,

0:32:35.280 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Paul Lessingham has been a vacationer in Egypt. And the

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>beetle in her woman form hypnotizes him and forces him

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 2>to live as her sex slave. And then he, like...

0:32:46.850 --> 0:32:49.950
<v Speaker 2>runs away and runs back to london and the beetle

0:32:50.030 --> 0:32:53.110
<v Speaker 2>follows him that was like the blockbuster at the time

0:32:53.130 --> 0:32:55.290
<v Speaker 2>dracula was just like yeah oh yeah i've heard of

0:32:55.350 --> 0:32:57.350
<v Speaker 2>dracula it's it's kind of a thing.

0:32:57.210 --> 0:33:01.550
<v Speaker 1>Yeah people yeah i want to see sexy xenophobia let

0:33:01.570 --> 0:33:04.110
<v Speaker 1>me read that book yeah so what happened this guy

0:33:04.170 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 1>left oh he got seduced by one of those weird

0:33:06.760 --> 0:33:08.020
<v Speaker 1>exotic ladies and.

0:33:08.020 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>It was just like the ladies yeah.

0:33:12.270 --> 0:33:13.830
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they all had their own message, right? Like

0:33:13.850 --> 0:33:18.390
<v Speaker 1>that one was clearly some kind of like hyper-sexualized xenophobically

0:33:18.470 --> 0:33:21.010
<v Speaker 1>sort of aligned sort of messaging.

0:33:21.410 --> 0:33:25.070
<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of hyper-sexualized xenophobia in the Dracula one.

0:33:25.110 --> 0:33:26.730
<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of people point to the fact that

0:33:26.860 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>this is around the time that, you know, Jewish people

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 2>are being run out of certain countries in Europe and

0:33:34.860 --> 0:33:40.770
<v Speaker 2>like appearing in London. And so, This like Eastern European

0:33:40.970 --> 0:33:45.250
<v Speaker 2>character who comes to London via ship is like probably

0:33:45.930 --> 0:33:52.190
<v Speaker 2>not completely free of, you know, exploiting xenophobia and anti-Semitism

0:33:52.910 --> 0:33:55.690
<v Speaker 2>at that time. And if you look at like people

0:33:55.710 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>have also been like Nosferatu is the most anti-Semitic. uh,

0:34:01.100 --> 0:34:04.479
<v Speaker 2>character design that you could possibly come up with. Uh,

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.380
<v Speaker 2>but like the, I don't like the, one of the

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>writers was a Jewish guy. And so I don't know

0:34:11.920 --> 0:34:15.100
<v Speaker 2>how intentional that was. Sometimes I feel like when people

0:34:15.140 --> 0:34:19.129
<v Speaker 2>are like, that's so anti-Semitic, it's like, Which like that,

0:34:19.330 --> 0:34:22.390
<v Speaker 2>that feels like you're being anti-Semitic by saying that that

0:34:22.489 --> 0:34:24.969
<v Speaker 2>looks like a Jewish person. That's weird.

0:34:24.989 --> 0:34:26.169
<v Speaker 5>I don't think I was thinking that.

0:34:26.230 --> 0:34:26.750
<v Speaker 1>I don't think.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 5>Anybody was thinking that scarab looks Jewish. It's like no

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:31.240
<v Speaker 5>one was thinking about the scarab.

0:34:32.570 --> 0:34:35.100
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I forget, there's a stand-up who has a bit

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.180
<v Speaker 1>like that. He's a Jewish stand-up. And he's like, can

0:34:37.219 --> 0:34:40.259
<v Speaker 1>we as Jewish people stop being like, that's supposed to

0:34:40.320 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 1>be me! Let's not do that anymore. We don't need

0:34:46.060 --> 0:34:48.980
<v Speaker 1>to keep reinforcing it like that, too. But I get it.

0:34:50.000 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>But I do think, like, this is... The fangs are

0:34:54.140 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>such a... crucial thing like it like that i think

0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 2>that's probably the thing that makes dracula's like one of

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:05.739
<v Speaker 2>the most common halloween costumes is like you just get

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.640
<v Speaker 2>some teeth in and you're doing some good tooth acting

0:35:09.850 --> 0:35:13.350
<v Speaker 2>you know like that it's like such a subtle but

0:35:13.450 --> 0:35:17.330
<v Speaker 2>powerful thing i think we all like learn to subtly

0:35:17.370 --> 0:35:20.470
<v Speaker 2>like pay attention to people's teeth uh in some ways

0:35:20.750 --> 0:35:25.930
<v Speaker 2>and so like to have teeth like it's very dramatic

0:35:26.210 --> 0:35:28.939
<v Speaker 2>for somebody to like open their mouth and have fanged teeth.

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:33.069
<v Speaker 2>And so, Right. You know, as we'll see, like, it starts,

0:35:34.260 --> 0:35:38.560
<v Speaker 2>Dracula becomes more and more popular in plays and movies.

0:35:39.260 --> 0:35:41.720
<v Speaker 2>And those are also, like, you can't do a good

0:35:41.960 --> 0:35:45.920
<v Speaker 2>version of the beetle. The, you know, sexy woman who

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.560
<v Speaker 2>turns into a giant beetle. Like, that's a tough one.

0:35:48.620 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 5>Oh, I beg to differ, Jack. You have no imagination.

0:35:51.320 --> 0:35:51.879
<v Speaker 2>It's your problem.

0:35:53.180 --> 0:35:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Those beetle hips.

0:35:56.219 --> 0:35:58.399
<v Speaker 1>They don't lie. They don't. They won't.

0:35:59.090 --> 0:36:02.850
<v Speaker 2>But, like, that's a tough one to pull off, whereas

0:36:02.870 --> 0:36:05.069
<v Speaker 2>you get a good set of fangs, and you're like, yeah,

0:36:05.430 --> 0:36:06.569
<v Speaker 2>just slick that hair back.

0:36:06.830 --> 0:36:09.509
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, there's just, like, I think there's also, like,

0:36:09.550 --> 0:36:13.049
<v Speaker 1>the lonerism is kind of cool about... That makes Dracula

0:36:13.150 --> 0:36:13.930
<v Speaker 1>kind of cool, too.

0:36:13.989 --> 0:36:14.950
<v Speaker 2>Kind of a bad boy.

0:36:15.130 --> 0:36:18.839
<v Speaker 1>Well, because it also, like, it appeals to people's sense of, like, individualism, because, like.

0:36:18.900 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 2>This guy's all alone.

0:36:19.960 --> 0:36:22.580
<v Speaker 1>Like, he's out there fucking, you know, just being the

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:24.979
<v Speaker 1>coolest guy that never dies. So I think there's also

0:36:25.020 --> 0:36:28.030
<v Speaker 1>something that makes it feel kind of like... how can

0:36:28.050 --> 0:36:30.150
<v Speaker 1>you not be a main character if you're immortal?

0:36:30.690 --> 0:36:31.130
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:36:31.270 --> 0:36:31.530
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:36:32.070 --> 0:36:34.740
<v Speaker 5>And he hangs out at night. You know, it's like,

0:36:34.820 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 5>it's way cooler than like, yeah, he gets a sensible lunch.

0:36:37.940 --> 0:36:41.390
<v Speaker 1>He's cool. you know, like, He's like, yeah, in most movies,

0:36:41.430 --> 0:36:43.569
<v Speaker 1>he's not like, he's not going after like, he's going

0:36:43.590 --> 0:36:46.150
<v Speaker 1>after pretty attractive people. You're like, I don't know, dude.

0:36:46.170 --> 0:36:48.669
<v Speaker 1>Like he's got good taste in his victims. He seems

0:36:48.710 --> 0:36:50.210
<v Speaker 1>like a chill guy. Yeah.

0:36:50.250 --> 0:36:53.570
<v Speaker 2>Why not? Yeah. One thing that I, so Nosferatu was

0:36:54.090 --> 0:36:57.089
<v Speaker 2>like just a straight up Dracula rip off. They tried

0:36:57.130 --> 0:37:01.890
<v Speaker 2>to get the rights to Dracula and Bram Stoker's widow. Uh, he,

0:37:01.969 --> 0:37:05.899
<v Speaker 2>he had died from people think syphilis, uh, They tried

0:37:05.920 --> 0:37:07.380
<v Speaker 2>to get the rights and she was like, no, you

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:09.220
<v Speaker 2>can't have them. So they just like made the movie

0:37:09.260 --> 0:37:12.910
<v Speaker 2>anyway and like changed the title slightly. But everything else

0:37:12.950 --> 0:37:15.830
<v Speaker 2>is exactly the same. A judge was like, no, you

0:37:15.870 --> 0:37:19.739
<v Speaker 2>like stole that. We have to destroy every copy of

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:25.219
<v Speaker 2>the movie. Like, like a court run by children. Like

0:37:25.260 --> 0:37:28.020
<v Speaker 2>you have to, you have to break every single one.

0:37:28.300 --> 0:37:30.460
<v Speaker 2>And like the only reason we have Nosferatu, which is

0:37:30.540 --> 0:37:33.430
<v Speaker 2>like respected as like one of the best silent films

0:37:33.570 --> 0:37:37.690
<v Speaker 2>and like, you know, depictions of vampire of all time,

0:37:37.730 --> 0:37:39.450
<v Speaker 2>like one of the most iconic movies of all time.

0:37:39.469 --> 0:37:42.989
<v Speaker 2>The only, like, it just happened, like somebody happened to

0:37:43.150 --> 0:37:47.020
<v Speaker 2>find one, like hiding away somewhere. They, they were like

0:37:47.080 --> 0:37:50.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to destroy it. But yeah, it's like a patchwork

0:37:50.620 --> 0:37:57.570
<v Speaker 2>of adaptations. Like, so Nosferatu gave us the sunlight thing

0:37:57.790 --> 0:38:00.870
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't in any of the previous stuff. And then

0:38:01.190 --> 0:38:03.370
<v Speaker 2>they were like, how do we end this? I see.

0:38:03.450 --> 0:38:07.339
<v Speaker 2>We'll open a window. And because he's like shadow guy, that'll,

0:38:07.739 --> 0:38:11.610
<v Speaker 2>That'll make him die quickly. Um, and then they take,

0:38:12.550 --> 0:38:16.069
<v Speaker 2>they take Dracula to the stage and the stage. They

0:38:16.090 --> 0:38:18.830
<v Speaker 2>need to like simplify it a little bit more. And

0:38:18.950 --> 0:38:22.090
<v Speaker 2>up to this point, Dracula has usually looked like shit

0:38:22.270 --> 0:38:25.330
<v Speaker 2>and Bram Stoker's Dracula. He had, I'm just going to

0:38:25.390 --> 0:38:29.460
<v Speaker 2>read the description in the original novel. Dracula is described

0:38:29.520 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 2>as unkempt with bushy eyebrows, a giant stash, um, and

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:37.440
<v Speaker 2>hair on the palms of his hands. Uh, This is

0:38:37.660 --> 0:38:43.570
<v Speaker 2>jacking off Jacking off in that uh Grave That's what

0:38:43.870 --> 0:38:45.759
<v Speaker 2>he's doing in there He took the words right out

0:38:45.780 --> 0:38:47.480
<v Speaker 2>of my mouth Hey what are you up to in

0:38:47.500 --> 0:38:52.670
<v Speaker 2>there Oh He's jacking off in that coffin. I'm always

0:38:52.750 --> 0:38:55.150
<v Speaker 2>accusing him of doing that.

0:38:55.489 --> 0:38:56.090
<v Speaker 1>Here's a question.

0:38:56.670 --> 0:39:01.530
<v Speaker 5>Did Dracula come about before the concept of vampires? Or

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.140
<v Speaker 5>was he the first vampire? Do you know what I mean?

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.540
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. No, there were like vampires before, but this

0:39:07.640 --> 0:39:09.470
<v Speaker 2>is like the first iconic one.

0:39:09.820 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 5>One headliner yeah right yeah.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:16.430
<v Speaker 2>Exactly they're they're vampire short stories also like they're generally

0:39:16.610 --> 0:39:19.370
<v Speaker 2>irish so like the whole sinners thing about vampires being

0:39:19.489 --> 0:39:22.950
<v Speaker 2>irish like bram stoker's irish uh the person he ripped

0:39:22.989 --> 0:39:25.170
<v Speaker 2>it off from was irish so shout out to the

0:39:25.310 --> 0:39:29.850
<v Speaker 2>irish for being fucking vampires i guess hell yeah uh

0:39:30.219 --> 0:39:34.530
<v Speaker 2>a weird thing from the original Dracula. When Dracula is introduced,

0:39:34.570 --> 0:39:38.569
<v Speaker 2>he immediately asks the Jonathan Harker, the character who's like

0:39:38.610 --> 0:39:41.529
<v Speaker 2>visiting his castle, if he needs to take a shit.

0:39:43.340 --> 0:39:45.630
<v Speaker 2>It says, you will need after your journey to refresh

0:39:45.670 --> 0:39:48.790
<v Speaker 2>yourself by making your toilet. I trust you will find

0:39:48.850 --> 0:39:51.430
<v Speaker 2>all you wish when you are ready. Come into the

0:39:51.469 --> 0:39:54.969
<v Speaker 2>other room where you will find your supper prepared. The

0:39:54.989 --> 0:39:57.230
<v Speaker 2>light and the warmth of the Count's courteous welcome seemed

0:39:57.250 --> 0:40:00.250
<v Speaker 2>to have dissipated all my doubts and fears. Having then

0:40:00.310 --> 0:40:02.750
<v Speaker 2>reached my normal state, I discovered that I was half

0:40:03.130 --> 0:40:06.670
<v Speaker 2>famished with hunger. So, making a hasty toilet, I went

0:40:06.710 --> 0:40:08.969
<v Speaker 2>into the other room.

0:40:10.030 --> 0:40:10.359
<v Speaker 1>They're like.

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 2>So people are going to want to know what the

0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:17.400
<v Speaker 2>shit situation is after this guy being on a long journey.

0:40:17.420 --> 0:40:23.410
<v Speaker 5>He was like, what the fuck did you do with that?

0:40:23.430 --> 0:40:27.750
<v Speaker 1>You ruined my pipes. Oh, my guy, please give a

0:40:27.810 --> 0:40:28.750
<v Speaker 1>courtesy flush.

0:40:28.770 --> 0:40:32.110
<v Speaker 6>You tried to do a nice thing.

0:40:32.530 --> 0:40:35.450
<v Speaker 1>Make your toilet. I love that old timey way of

0:40:35.489 --> 0:40:40.390
<v Speaker 1>saying taking a dump. It's like, make your toilet. I will.

0:40:40.780 --> 0:40:41.110
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:40:42.610 --> 0:40:45.130
<v Speaker 2>But so when they put him on the stage, they're like,

0:40:45.150 --> 0:40:49.080
<v Speaker 2>we need to do something that looks a little cooler

0:40:49.219 --> 0:40:53.600
<v Speaker 2>than like bushy eyebrow guy or, you know, Nosferatu. And

0:40:53.640 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>so this is when we first get a tux and

0:40:56.580 --> 0:41:01.040
<v Speaker 2>a cape. And it's actually like the actor just like

0:41:01.180 --> 0:41:04.500
<v Speaker 2>brought his own costume from home. So this guy just like.

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:08.580
<v Speaker 2>brought shit from his house that now everybody dresses as

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.920
<v Speaker 2>for all, like, the costume that people dress as is, like,

0:41:12.260 --> 0:41:14.340
<v Speaker 2>based on what the actor had in his house.

0:41:14.480 --> 0:41:16.420
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. He's like, yeah, I don't know if you've

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:17.940
<v Speaker 1>got your own wardrobe.

0:41:18.300 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:19.969
<v Speaker 1>Uh, yeah.

0:41:20.530 --> 0:41:22.450
<v Speaker 2>And then the cape was added to the stage version

0:41:22.489 --> 0:41:25.850
<v Speaker 2>because it enabled the actor to, like, perform disappearing tricks

0:41:25.910 --> 0:41:28.690
<v Speaker 2>in front of an audience. Nice, nice, nice.

0:41:28.969 --> 0:41:31.049
<v Speaker 1>Which is such a great touch because we all love

0:41:31.090 --> 0:41:31.850
<v Speaker 1>a fucking cape.

0:41:32.350 --> 0:41:32.930
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

0:41:33.010 --> 0:41:34.569
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? Like, I think It's funny

0:41:34.590 --> 0:41:36.549
<v Speaker 1>that there's so many of these things that are just

0:41:36.750 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 1>essential to Dracula that either appeal to your child brain

0:41:40.120 --> 0:41:44.340
<v Speaker 1>or your adult fear of death and horniness. There's something

0:41:44.380 --> 0:41:47.540
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. Because I remember when I was Dracula, I

0:41:47.820 --> 0:41:51.180
<v Speaker 1>was fucking around with the cape so much, just trying

0:41:51.200 --> 0:41:54.040
<v Speaker 1>to do shit with it, that I remember very vividly

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>my mom being like, I will take the cape off if, like,

0:41:57.000 --> 0:42:00.310
<v Speaker 1>you can't just kind of sit still. And I was like, okay.

0:42:00.350 --> 0:42:01.230
<v Speaker 1>We'll take that cape.

0:42:01.370 --> 0:42:01.509
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:42:01.550 --> 0:42:02.150
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:42:02.190 --> 0:42:03.969
<v Speaker 2>But it's so fun to just, like, sweep it over

0:42:04.010 --> 0:42:07.130
<v Speaker 2>your face and, yeah. Allows you to have, like, little dramatic.

0:42:07.170 --> 0:42:07.650
<v Speaker 1>It's called Lincoln, baby.

0:42:07.690 --> 0:42:09.610
<v Speaker 2>Gives you a little business, you know? Gives you a

0:42:09.610 --> 0:42:12.660
<v Speaker 2>little business to do on stage or on Halloween.

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:13.319
<v Speaker 1>Mm-hmm.

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I do think so. This is like, I

0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:21.430
<v Speaker 2>have been really interested in this question of like, because Dracula,

0:42:21.570 --> 0:42:25.030
<v Speaker 2>the most depicted literary character of all time is Dracula.

0:42:25.070 --> 0:42:28.790
<v Speaker 2>The second most depicted is Sherlock. And they came out

0:42:28.870 --> 0:42:31.510
<v Speaker 2>like when we were doing research for the Sherlock episode,

0:42:31.790 --> 0:42:35.469
<v Speaker 2>like at one point, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle is like, yeah.

0:42:35.489 --> 0:42:37.190
<v Speaker 2>And then I got this letter from this guy who

0:42:37.230 --> 0:42:40.089
<v Speaker 2>had just published a novel, a Bram Stoker. Like they

0:42:40.130 --> 0:42:43.509
<v Speaker 2>were like in the same literary circle and, So I

0:42:43.550 --> 0:42:48.140
<v Speaker 2>was like, why did this literary circle produce these two characters?

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:54.040
<v Speaker 2>And in both cases, it's like this patchwork thing, like

0:42:54.719 --> 0:42:59.350
<v Speaker 2>coming from that point in history, just allowed them to

0:42:59.650 --> 0:43:03.930
<v Speaker 2>then like hit America as like movies are becoming a thing.

0:43:04.330 --> 0:43:08.129
<v Speaker 2>And as stage productions are, you know, in a certain

0:43:08.170 --> 0:43:10.430
<v Speaker 2>stage where it's just like ping pong back and forth

0:43:10.489 --> 0:43:15.410
<v Speaker 2>between all these different versions and each different version is

0:43:15.450 --> 0:43:18.630
<v Speaker 2>like taking another crack at it and being like, what

0:43:18.670 --> 0:43:21.190
<v Speaker 2>if we gave him a pipe and a deer stalker?

0:43:21.210 --> 0:43:24.660
<v Speaker 2>And they're like, no, that doesn't work for Dracula. Uh,

0:43:24.700 --> 0:43:27.860
<v Speaker 2>maybe try it for Sherlock Holmes. But, um, you know,

0:43:27.900 --> 0:43:31.300
<v Speaker 2>they're like adding, it's like having a writer's room for

0:43:31.360 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 2>both of these characters. And, The stuff that works just sticks,

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:39.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, and the stuff that doesn't just like goes

0:43:39.180 --> 0:43:42.910
<v Speaker 2>away and nobody really remembers that shit at all. Um,

0:43:43.210 --> 0:43:46.690
<v Speaker 2>so I feel like that's, you know, why, like the,

0:43:46.870 --> 0:43:50.630
<v Speaker 2>the mystery of like, how, how did this one literary

0:43:50.670 --> 0:43:53.750
<v Speaker 2>scene create these two characters that are still resonating with people?

0:43:54.630 --> 0:43:57.990
<v Speaker 2>over a hundred years later is just like, it's actually

0:43:58.050 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 2>the process that happened afterwards that they were then like

0:44:02.260 --> 0:44:06.020
<v Speaker 2>went into this washing machine of, uh, you know, writing

0:44:06.060 --> 0:44:10.239
<v Speaker 2>and rewriting and designing and redesigning until you created like

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the platonic ideal of a detective or of a vampire,

0:44:15.820 --> 0:44:16.469
<v Speaker 2>you know?

0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:16.989
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:44:17.300 --> 0:44:20.440
<v Speaker 5>I do think Dracula could use a Watson, uh, you know,

0:44:20.480 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 5>like an assistant, like I feel like that he could

0:44:22.460 --> 0:44:23.100
<v Speaker 5>benefit from a.

0:44:23.100 --> 0:44:26.919
<v Speaker 2>Little, he, I mean, they have familiars, right? Like that's right.

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:44:27.739 --> 0:44:32.590
<v Speaker 2>When he's bringing the, um, the guy in and asking

0:44:32.620 --> 0:44:34.690
<v Speaker 2>him to go take a shit and then come eat

0:44:34.730 --> 0:44:38.750
<v Speaker 2>with him. Uh, I think he's kind of, he's kind

0:44:38.830 --> 0:44:41.649
<v Speaker 2>of auditioning him to be his familiar. That's a big thing.

0:44:41.710 --> 0:44:44.270
<v Speaker 2>And what we do in the shadows too, is that like,

0:44:44.670 --> 0:44:47.660
<v Speaker 2>you always need basically an assistant, um, Which is funny

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:51.180
<v Speaker 2>because that's what Bram Stoker was, was an actor's assistant.

0:44:51.540 --> 0:44:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He knows about hangers on, doesn't he?

0:44:56.410 --> 0:45:02.210
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. All right. Let's take one more break. We'll come

0:45:02.250 --> 0:45:07.100
<v Speaker 2>back and we'll explain how Dracula captured the Zeitgeist.

0:45:07.180 --> 0:45:07.719
<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back.

0:45:19.590 --> 0:45:20.489
<v Speaker 2>And we're back.

0:45:20.510 --> 0:45:21.050
<v Speaker 1>We're back.

0:45:22.310 --> 0:45:25.430
<v Speaker 2>All right. A couple other things I feel like Dracula

0:45:25.670 --> 0:45:29.210
<v Speaker 2>had going for him at the start and continues to

0:45:31.310 --> 0:45:35.009
<v Speaker 2>have going for him. One interesting point is that this

0:45:35.050 --> 0:45:39.790
<v Speaker 2>was at a time when Darwin was first kind of

0:45:40.090 --> 0:45:45.040
<v Speaker 2>becoming popular and his observations were becoming popular. And the

0:45:45.400 --> 0:45:49.700
<v Speaker 2>idea of this human that can take animal form which

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:56.259
<v Speaker 2>obviously is not the most popular version of, like, grown-up vampires. Like,

0:45:56.280 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>they don't poof and turn into bats quite as much anymore.

0:45:59.320 --> 0:45:59.540
<v Speaker 5>Right.

0:45:59.580 --> 0:46:01.640
<v Speaker 2>But also, like, the fangs are, like, sort of an

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:06.419
<v Speaker 2>animalistic feature that, like, comes out of the vampires. Like,

0:46:06.480 --> 0:46:09.940
<v Speaker 2>people think that, like, there was probably some aspect of

0:46:10.660 --> 0:46:15.490
<v Speaker 2>the vampires that was, you know, people's anxiety about finding

0:46:15.610 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 2>out that we're animals. You know, we came from the

0:46:19.760 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 2>animal kingdom.

0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:25.470
<v Speaker 1>Right. There's what I hate to bring up young twice

0:46:25.530 --> 0:46:27.969
<v Speaker 1>in a week, but there's also like the shot. There's

0:46:27.989 --> 0:46:30.509
<v Speaker 1>so much mention of shadow stuff too, that I'm like,

0:46:30.850 --> 0:46:33.509
<v Speaker 1>this feels very like the shadow self, or also the

0:46:33.570 --> 0:46:36.500
<v Speaker 1>appeal of like a vampire to like our own innate

0:46:36.580 --> 0:46:39.380
<v Speaker 1>darkness that they're like, man, if like, if I wasn't

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.360
<v Speaker 1>bound by society's rules, like would I do whatever to

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:46.359
<v Speaker 1>like keep living or whatever? It's just very, Just some

0:46:46.390 --> 0:46:49.399
<v Speaker 1>thoughts I've seen about appearing shadow over and over again.

0:46:49.420 --> 0:46:51.540
<v Speaker 1>I was like, is this like our shadow self too

0:46:51.580 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 1>that we're kind of reckoning with in these characters or

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:54.230
<v Speaker 1>appealing it?

0:46:54.900 --> 0:46:56.880
<v Speaker 2>What we do in the shadows could be like the

0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:01.200
<v Speaker 2>name of a very dark book about human behavior.

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:02.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:47:02.300 --> 0:47:03.940
<v Speaker 5>Instead of the funniest show of all time.

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:05.900
<v Speaker 1>About the Joe Rogan experience.

0:47:08.219 --> 0:47:11.919
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I mean, throughout it's like, there's racism tied

0:47:11.980 --> 0:47:17.130
<v Speaker 2>in there. There's like anti-immigrant hysteria. There's, um, the fear

0:47:17.170 --> 0:47:21.430
<v Speaker 2>of like the Darwin stuff, uh, public fear of infectious disease.

0:47:22.350 --> 0:47:26.090
<v Speaker 2>It's also like when they're first starting to understand how

0:47:26.150 --> 0:47:30.150
<v Speaker 2>diseases are transmitted, um, like they're first starting to understand

0:47:30.190 --> 0:47:33.430
<v Speaker 2>what like rabies is. And, you know, even the bubonic

0:47:33.489 --> 0:47:37.770
<v Speaker 2>plague is like transferred from fleas and flea bites and

0:47:37.810 --> 0:47:40.989
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that and this is the first monster that

0:47:41.370 --> 0:47:46.950
<v Speaker 2>transmits its monstrosity through biting so it's kind of getting

0:47:47.030 --> 0:47:49.980
<v Speaker 2>in on the ground floor of like all sorts of

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 2>different shit and it's just again like very malleable it's

0:47:55.500 --> 0:47:58.690
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of hogging all the good It's like the

0:47:58.730 --> 0:48:01.549
<v Speaker 2>Superman of monsters where it's just like, it got, got

0:48:01.690 --> 0:48:05.029
<v Speaker 2>all the superpowers right away. Um, all the things that

0:48:05.050 --> 0:48:08.490
<v Speaker 2>can like tap into people's fears, uh, and the things

0:48:08.550 --> 0:48:12.739
<v Speaker 2>that creep us out about, about reality and our death,

0:48:13.140 --> 0:48:16.250
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, he sleeps in a coffin, the thing

0:48:16.310 --> 0:48:20.710
<v Speaker 2>that where everybody inevitably goes to die, you know, the

0:48:20.750 --> 0:48:22.950
<v Speaker 2>scariest place you could possibly sleep.

0:48:23.140 --> 0:48:25.859
<v Speaker 1>This is my favorite place in the world, actually. And again,

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:28.180
<v Speaker 1>I think that's, what's interesting. Cause I remember being like,

0:48:28.780 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>the thing you think about Dracula or vampires is like

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:34.660
<v Speaker 1>the immortality aspect of it. And I remember as a kid,

0:48:34.719 --> 0:48:37.700
<v Speaker 1>like all, I was so obsessed with death that like,

0:48:37.719 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I could not get over the fact that I'm like,

0:48:39.940 --> 0:48:42.589
<v Speaker 1>we die. And I'm like, I don't want that ever.

0:48:43.250 --> 0:48:46.049
<v Speaker 1>And there was something about like the vampire thing that

0:48:46.070 --> 0:48:49.100
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's cool. But also as you really engage

0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:52.660
<v Speaker 1>with those characters, like this is actually terrifying to never die.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:56.439
<v Speaker 1>Also that, yeah, it's, I don't know, like it works

0:48:56.560 --> 0:48:59.370
<v Speaker 1>on just so many levels. Cause also the appeal to like,

0:48:59.450 --> 0:49:02.290
<v Speaker 1>versus like being like a Frankenstein or whatever, it's like

0:49:02.690 --> 0:49:05.530
<v Speaker 1>a vampire or a Dracula still is like a person.

0:49:06.290 --> 0:49:07.690
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? So it's like easy to

0:49:07.750 --> 0:49:10.190
<v Speaker 1>kind of be like, it's kind of like, it's like

0:49:10.250 --> 0:49:13.980
<v Speaker 1>being yourself, but like with some good add ons. of

0:49:14.040 --> 0:49:16.439
<v Speaker 1>like the things that I'm afraid of I can actually

0:49:16.480 --> 0:49:19.709
<v Speaker 1>shield myself like I'll never be you know I'll never

0:49:19.770 --> 0:49:22.560
<v Speaker 1>die or be alone because I'll be I'll live forever

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:25.000
<v Speaker 1>and I'll turn people into familiars yeah kind of all

0:49:25.040 --> 0:49:27.140
<v Speaker 1>just sort of like I don't know it feels like

0:49:27.180 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>it the dumbest solution to all of your like human fears. Yeah.

0:49:31.460 --> 0:49:34.839
<v Speaker 5>The living forever thing is also painted as bad in

0:49:35.140 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 5>different ways. Like you were saying, where it's like, all

0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 5>my friends have died over, you know, I've, I've had

0:49:40.140 --> 0:49:42.820
<v Speaker 5>multiple friends, my, and it's like, Oh, the love of

0:49:42.890 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 5>my life. And then they show the love of it.

0:49:44.850 --> 0:49:47.450
<v Speaker 5>It's like this crusted over skeleton of like a woman

0:49:47.489 --> 0:49:49.390
<v Speaker 5>from like 400 years ago. And it's like, I can't

0:49:49.489 --> 0:49:51.970
<v Speaker 5>eat food. Like they can't eat food. If they eat food,

0:49:52.010 --> 0:49:54.819
<v Speaker 5>they puke. They can only have blood or whatever. It's like, oh,

0:49:54.860 --> 0:49:57.040
<v Speaker 5>I'm so scared of death, but if I live forever,

0:49:57.060 --> 0:50:02.129
<v Speaker 5>I can't eat delicious food and my wife will die

0:50:02.270 --> 0:50:03.569
<v Speaker 5>so long ago, you know?

0:50:03.610 --> 0:50:04.430
<v Speaker 2>So you're right.

0:50:04.469 --> 0:50:06.160
<v Speaker 5>It is like a contradiction, but it does work.

0:50:06.739 --> 0:50:09.779
<v Speaker 2>Both ways like yeah the wish fulfillment like i've talked

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:14.089
<v Speaker 2>before about my theory that we're obsessed with post-apocalyptic movies

0:50:14.140 --> 0:50:17.590
<v Speaker 2>because uh it allows us to have like walkable cities

0:50:17.670 --> 0:50:21.270
<v Speaker 2>again and like there's like some wish fulfillment in there

0:50:21.310 --> 0:50:24.930
<v Speaker 2>of just being and like live in community right and

0:50:24.989 --> 0:50:25.430
<v Speaker 2>you can just.

0:50:25.330 --> 0:50:31.060
<v Speaker 5>Go to la during thanksgiving yeah right right east side

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.260
<v Speaker 5>of the west side in 20 minutes But the.

0:50:35.100 --> 0:50:35.259
<v Speaker 1>I.

0:50:35.219 --> 0:50:41.339
<v Speaker 2>Do think, yeah, there's, like, some of the appeal is, like, oh, wow, like, immortality. Like,

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.410
<v Speaker 2>you get to just live forever.

0:50:44.430 --> 0:50:45.220
<v Speaker 1>You get to.

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.810
<v Speaker 2>Something you said earlier, Blake, about how, like... they're not

0:50:49.230 --> 0:50:52.350
<v Speaker 2>going to like going to have a sensible lunch. Like

0:50:52.370 --> 0:50:54.930
<v Speaker 2>they get to like sleep all day, which is like,

0:50:54.969 --> 0:50:58.770
<v Speaker 2>that's fucking awesome. Like, you know, everybody, nobody wants to

0:50:59.090 --> 0:51:00.910
<v Speaker 2>wake up in the morning and go to work. These

0:51:00.930 --> 0:51:03.989
<v Speaker 2>fuckers are not doing that. They're sleeping. They just like

0:51:04.030 --> 0:51:06.009
<v Speaker 2>get out and party at night. Like that is one

0:51:06.050 --> 0:51:08.450
<v Speaker 2>of the fun things about what we do in the

0:51:08.469 --> 0:51:12.250
<v Speaker 2>shadows is that it's, yeah, they're not going to work.

0:51:12.310 --> 0:51:14.870
<v Speaker 2>They're just like hanging out all night with each other.

0:51:14.890 --> 0:51:15.469
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:51:16.070 --> 0:51:17.509
<v Speaker 5>I saw this clip from what we do with the

0:51:17.530 --> 0:51:19.990
<v Speaker 5>shadows the other day, where it was Nandor being interviewed

0:51:20.030 --> 0:51:22.410
<v Speaker 5>on the street by a news van. And they were like, yes,

0:51:22.450 --> 0:51:22.610
<v Speaker 5>I know.

0:51:22.640 --> 0:51:23.029
<v Speaker 1>What is your name?

0:51:23.070 --> 0:51:25.540
<v Speaker 5>It goes Nandor the Relentless. And she's like, all right,

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:33.620
<v Speaker 5>Nandor de Laurentis. Such a simple joke, but so perfect.

0:51:33.660 --> 0:51:35.920
<v Speaker 5>He just gives a look like, but not allowed to

0:51:35.960 --> 0:51:39.060
<v Speaker 5>say the Relentless again. Such a great show.

0:51:40.480 --> 0:51:46.680
<v Speaker 2>There's another theory about how vampires resonate with American culture

0:51:46.700 --> 0:51:49.440
<v Speaker 2>that I really like that we cover back at Cracked,

0:51:49.570 --> 0:51:53.910
<v Speaker 2>which is this idea that vampires are popular. And like,

0:51:53.930 --> 0:51:56.750
<v Speaker 2>you can kind of track this, that there are more

0:51:56.890 --> 0:52:01.290
<v Speaker 2>vampire movies during democratic presidencies. And then there are more

0:52:01.370 --> 0:52:06.410
<v Speaker 2>zombie movies during during republican presidencies and the idea is

0:52:06.469 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 2>that like republican like our fear of republicans is the

0:52:12.460 --> 0:52:15.719
<v Speaker 2>zombie thing it's like that they're like mindless hordes that

0:52:15.760 --> 0:52:20.259
<v Speaker 2>are just you know groaning unthinking and then they're you

0:52:20.300 --> 0:52:24.310
<v Speaker 2>know the right wing's fear of democrats is that they're

0:52:24.330 --> 0:52:31.710
<v Speaker 2>these like european metrosexual suave people who are like coming

0:52:31.750 --> 0:52:35.980
<v Speaker 2>for your women yeah exactly they're handsome they part they

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:40.299
<v Speaker 2>stay up all night they have weird religious uh rituals

0:52:40.380 --> 0:52:43.080
<v Speaker 2>and shit like that um and you can kind of

0:52:43.400 --> 0:52:45.259
<v Speaker 2>see the case of it i feel like the trump

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:50.050
<v Speaker 2>administration broke this as it breaks like everything but uh

0:52:50.120 --> 0:52:53.160
<v Speaker 2>right you know Night of the Living Dead came out

0:52:53.260 --> 0:52:56.570
<v Speaker 2>just before Nixon took office and then really became popular

0:52:56.690 --> 0:53:01.430
<v Speaker 2>when Nixon was in office. Dracula movies came out during

0:53:01.469 --> 0:53:04.770
<v Speaker 2>the Carter years. There were a bunch of popular Dracula movies.

0:53:05.590 --> 0:53:08.710
<v Speaker 2>The Reagan era featured Night of the Living Dead remake,

0:53:08.870 --> 0:53:12.580
<v Speaker 2>one sequel, two Return of the Living Dead movies, and Re-Animator.

0:53:13.500 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 2>The Bill Clinton years gave us Interview with a Vampire

0:53:16.500 --> 0:53:19.920
<v Speaker 2>from Dusk Till Dawn and Blade. And then when Bush

0:53:19.980 --> 0:53:23.880
<v Speaker 2>came in 2000, there were like so many zombie movies.

0:53:23.880 --> 0:53:26.390
<v Speaker 2>28 Days Later, Shaun of the Dead, Dawn of the Dead,

0:53:26.489 --> 0:53:30.870
<v Speaker 2>Land of the Dead, the first Resident Evil movies. And

0:53:30.910 --> 0:53:33.589
<v Speaker 2>then the bulk of the Twilight movies came out during

0:53:33.610 --> 0:53:38.339
<v Speaker 2>the Obama administration, which are the most successful of any

0:53:38.360 --> 0:53:39.760
<v Speaker 2>of these movies that we've mentioned.

0:53:39.780 --> 0:53:41.299
<v Speaker 5>True Blood, I think, came out then.

0:53:41.340 --> 0:53:41.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, True Blood.

0:53:41.860 --> 0:53:42.260
<v Speaker 1>Which....

0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:48.100
<v Speaker 2>You know, and these are all sexy vampires. And I

0:53:48.140 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 2>feel like Obama was kind of a sexy president, you know.

0:53:52.460 --> 0:53:53.220
<v Speaker 5>Sexy vampire.

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:53:53.560 --> 0:53:55.900
<v Speaker 2>Sexy. He's a bit of a sexy vampire.

0:53:55.920 --> 0:54:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Um, and then also what, like, like Buffy probably too

0:54:00.260 --> 0:54:02.340
<v Speaker 1>would have been Clinton era stuff.

0:54:02.590 --> 0:54:03.390
<v Speaker 2>Cause it came on like 97.

0:54:03.370 --> 0:54:05.190
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

0:54:05.610 --> 0:54:08.270
<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, in the Trump administration, we've gotten

0:54:08.330 --> 0:54:12.489
<v Speaker 2>like new resident evil movie, uh, two new 28 Days

0:54:12.530 --> 0:54:18.399
<v Speaker 2>Later movies, but we've also gotten, like, multiple Dracula remakes, Sinners,

0:54:18.460 --> 0:54:23.720
<v Speaker 2>which is probably, you know, the most successful non-Twilight vampire

0:54:23.739 --> 0:54:25.280
<v Speaker 2>movie of all time.

0:54:25.420 --> 0:54:28.259
<v Speaker 1>Maybe because both are happening now, it's saying something that

0:54:28.280 --> 0:54:31.450
<v Speaker 1>we're about to emerge into a new era of politics, because, like,

0:54:31.469 --> 0:54:35.180
<v Speaker 1>we can't figure out, are we... are we zombie or

0:54:35.560 --> 0:54:40.020
<v Speaker 1>are we vampire? You know, what are we America? Or

0:54:40.060 --> 0:54:42.470
<v Speaker 1>are we another thing? Is there a third way we can,

0:54:42.590 --> 0:54:43.910
<v Speaker 1>we can pursue? Yeah.

0:54:44.870 --> 0:54:47.430
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think everything just broke. And now this is

0:54:47.469 --> 0:54:48.469
<v Speaker 2>just like where we're at.

0:54:48.870 --> 0:54:49.089
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:54:49.210 --> 0:54:51.450
<v Speaker 2>Finally, just want to close out. What, what are you

0:54:51.469 --> 0:54:58.420
<v Speaker 2>guys's most iconic Dracula vampire iterations? You guys have like one.

0:54:58.440 --> 0:54:58.580
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:54:59.800 --> 0:55:00.629
<v Speaker 2>Vampire in Brooklyn.

0:55:00.750 --> 0:55:03.710
<v Speaker 1>I loved Vampire in Brooklyn, uh, just cause I was like,

0:55:04.070 --> 0:55:06.150
<v Speaker 1>I loved Eddie Murphy at the time. And I'm like,

0:55:06.250 --> 0:55:08.350
<v Speaker 1>this is so, I'm like a black vampire. And then

0:55:08.370 --> 0:55:11.140
<v Speaker 1>my dad's like, you know, there's Blackula. And I'm like, what?

0:55:11.940 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 1>And then I, uh, Vampire in Brooklyn and who else?

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:19.439
<v Speaker 1>And also just like everything interview with the vampire. Uh, yeah.

0:55:19.460 --> 0:55:23.370
<v Speaker 1>Brian said it blade and Gary Oldman probably in Bram Stoker's.

0:55:24.950 --> 0:55:28.890
<v Speaker 2>Gary oldman uh slept he's one of these like annoying

0:55:28.930 --> 0:55:32.010
<v Speaker 2>method actors he slept in a coffin for a month

0:55:32.510 --> 0:55:35.010
<v Speaker 2>leading up to the production of that did you imagine

0:55:35.820 --> 0:55:38.680
<v Speaker 2>doing that much preparation for that role and then you

0:55:38.700 --> 0:55:41.060
<v Speaker 2>like get to the scene and it's keanu.

0:55:42.219 --> 0:55:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Giving you nothing giving literally absolute nothing yeah.

0:55:47.400 --> 0:55:51.540
<v Speaker 2>Like thinking about doing a british accent yeah yeah yeah.

0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 6>Deciding against it could you sleep in a coffin did

0:55:56.620 --> 0:55:59.180
<v Speaker 6>i could you i'm not claustrophobic brian the editor in

0:55:59.200 --> 0:56:00.400
<v Speaker 6>the chat was like i've always wanted to sleep in

0:56:00.420 --> 0:56:01.860
<v Speaker 6>a coffin and i was like yeah low-key me too

0:56:01.900 --> 0:56:04.040
<v Speaker 6>i would always try and sleep in boxes when i

0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 6>was like a.

0:56:04.420 --> 0:56:07.430
<v Speaker 5>Kid hmm yeah i like i move around way too

0:56:07.469 --> 0:56:08.440
<v Speaker 5>much at night to.

0:56:09.230 --> 0:56:10.250
<v Speaker 1>I don't know i love a.

0:56:10.250 --> 0:56:14.529
<v Speaker 3>Constricted space for some reason i was like yeah baby

0:56:14.570 --> 0:56:17.989
<v Speaker 3>get me in that coffin alive alive of course of

0:56:18.050 --> 0:56:21.989
<v Speaker 3>course of course with air Because obviously I'm afraid of death.

0:56:22.170 --> 0:56:24.730
<v Speaker 5>I used to sleep in a bunk bed. Two severely

0:56:24.790 --> 0:56:26.370
<v Speaker 5>fucked up things I'm about to say in a row

0:56:26.410 --> 0:56:28.770
<v Speaker 5>about my childhood where I slept in a bunk bed

0:56:30.030 --> 0:56:33.870
<v Speaker 5>with no one else there until my 20s, I think.

0:56:34.350 --> 0:56:37.850
<v Speaker 5>You slept in an empty bunk bed? Yeah, so I

0:56:37.890 --> 0:56:40.250
<v Speaker 5>was on the bottom bunk. No one to speak of

0:56:40.850 --> 0:56:42.299
<v Speaker 5>ever on the top bunk.

0:56:42.489 --> 0:56:44.029
<v Speaker 1>Are you an only child? Do you have siblings?

0:56:44.280 --> 0:56:45.739
<v Speaker 5>No, I had a sister who had a different room.

0:56:45.860 --> 0:56:49.140
<v Speaker 5>But she never slept in the bunk bed. It was

0:56:49.180 --> 0:56:51.740
<v Speaker 5>just the bed I had happened to have an extra

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:52.470
<v Speaker 5>bed above it.

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you do that to sort of like facilitate sleepovers?

0:56:55.600 --> 0:56:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Cause I'm an only child and I had a bunk

0:56:57.360 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>bed for a stretch.

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 5>I have a nice personality. So actually I could have

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 5>as many people over as I want. I don't need

0:57:02.140 --> 0:57:02.800
<v Speaker 5>a cool bed.

0:57:03.110 --> 0:57:03.410
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:57:03.469 --> 0:57:05.150
<v Speaker 5>I'll need a cool bed to get people to hang

0:57:05.190 --> 0:57:06.129
<v Speaker 5>out at my house.

0:57:06.410 --> 0:57:08.510
<v Speaker 1>Well, I needed a bed. Okay. I was like a vampire.

0:57:08.530 --> 0:57:10.610
<v Speaker 1>I was like, let's go back to my place. I

0:57:10.630 --> 0:57:13.630
<v Speaker 1>have a bunk bed. I'm lonely.

0:57:15.790 --> 0:57:17.169
<v Speaker 5>I don't deserve the top bunk.

0:57:17.430 --> 0:57:20.550
<v Speaker 1>We can play Mario Paint on Super Nintendo.

0:57:22.220 --> 0:57:24.560
<v Speaker 5>There is a space in between the bed and the

0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:28.650
<v Speaker 5>wall and I would sleep sideways in the space like

0:57:28.750 --> 0:57:31.560
<v Speaker 5>in the crack in between the bed and the.

0:57:31.520 --> 0:57:33.820
<v Speaker 2>Wall on purpose like you'd wake up there or you

0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:35.700
<v Speaker 2>would yeah that's where you would go you'd be like

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:39.120
<v Speaker 2>alright time for bed and then just like wedge yourself in.

0:57:39.100 --> 0:57:42.540
<v Speaker 5>There yeah I liked it a lot yeah I did sometimes.

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:44.940
<v Speaker 2>Like when I was really like had a lot of

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.260
<v Speaker 2>nightmares I would Try and sleep under the bed And

0:57:48.300 --> 0:57:50.750
<v Speaker 2>then I would be like this is uncomfortable And get

0:57:50.830 --> 0:57:52.390
<v Speaker 2>out and get into the bed Did you.

0:57:52.310 --> 0:57:54.910
<v Speaker 1>Just like the compression on your body Yeah.

0:57:54.670 --> 0:57:58.390
<v Speaker 2>I kind of liked just like feeling Yeah Maybe I

0:57:58.430 --> 0:58:00.630
<v Speaker 2>would fuck with a coffin I'm telling y'all let's pitch

0:58:00.690 --> 0:58:03.710
<v Speaker 2>in on a coffin And let's try it out Let's get.

0:58:03.570 --> 0:58:05.810
<v Speaker 5>A bunk coffin and we can all sleep in it

0:58:05.830 --> 0:58:11.960
<v Speaker 5>No Blake You and your sad empty bunk coffin Just

0:58:12.200 --> 0:58:14.220
<v Speaker 5>Stacking coffins on top of one another.

0:58:20.650 --> 0:58:22.170
<v Speaker 1>It feels like a character and family.

0:58:22.510 --> 0:58:22.710
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:58:22.730 --> 0:58:24.770
<v Speaker 1>What we do in the shadows, there's just like one

0:58:24.810 --> 0:58:28.970
<v Speaker 1>lonely guy. I was like, if you guys want, they're like, no, dude, no, no, no, no, no, no.

0:58:29.010 --> 0:58:32.260
<v Speaker 2>It's many rises up like a board as stiff as

0:58:32.300 --> 0:58:37.380
<v Speaker 2>a board and just wrecked his head. Yeah. I do

0:58:37.440 --> 0:58:41.480
<v Speaker 2>feel like count from Sesame street also needs to be mentioned. Uh,

0:58:41.800 --> 0:58:45.500
<v Speaker 2>one of the greats, uh, also another example of the,

0:58:45.940 --> 0:58:50.250
<v Speaker 2>that there's an episode where he, uh, is, uh, seen

0:58:50.350 --> 0:58:54.620
<v Speaker 2>feeding on backpackers and he, I think has straw fangs.

0:58:54.920 --> 0:58:58.780
<v Speaker 2>So another, another account does. Yeah, definitely.

0:58:59.180 --> 0:59:00.540
<v Speaker 1>He's counting backpackers.

0:59:00.540 --> 0:59:09.240
<v Speaker 2>He's counting the number of backpackers. that he's slaughtered. Yeah. Blake, any, any, uh,

0:59:09.260 --> 0:59:11.540
<v Speaker 2>vampires that you want to mention?

0:59:12.640 --> 0:59:14.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think just both what we do in The Shadows,

0:59:14.980 --> 0:59:17.050
<v Speaker 5>both the movie and the show, I think it was

0:59:17.140 --> 0:59:20.170
<v Speaker 5>one of those rare occasions where they're like, we're going

0:59:20.190 --> 0:59:22.130
<v Speaker 5>to make a spinoff of a movie. And it's like, God,

0:59:22.190 --> 0:59:25.850
<v Speaker 5>I love that movie with like Takua Titi and what's

0:59:25.870 --> 0:59:29.310
<v Speaker 5>in Jemaine Clement so much. I'm like, you can't touch this.

0:59:29.410 --> 0:59:32.810
<v Speaker 5>And then the show was as good, if not better,

0:59:33.030 --> 0:59:35.290
<v Speaker 5>in my opinion. I just thought those actors were so

0:59:35.410 --> 0:59:36.050
<v Speaker 5>fucking funny.

0:59:36.130 --> 0:59:38.450
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was great. Yeah, Matthew Barry might be my favorite.

0:59:38.470 --> 0:59:42.300
<v Speaker 2>He's unbelievable. Non-Sesame Street, Dracula. Yeah.

0:59:42.780 --> 0:59:46.350
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. What is yours? Uh, count the count.

0:59:46.710 --> 0:59:47.410
<v Speaker 2>The count. Yeah.

0:59:47.530 --> 0:59:47.710
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:59:48.210 --> 0:59:52.950
<v Speaker 2>Consistent, pure iconic, pure iconography. It's got everything that I'm

0:59:52.970 --> 0:59:58.070
<v Speaker 2>looking for. I think the, uh, monocle is an underrated,

0:59:58.350 --> 1:00:03.580
<v Speaker 2>like give more, give more Dracula's monocles, dog. Yeah.

1:00:04.180 --> 1:00:06.560
<v Speaker 5>Is that so he could see better to count better?

1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:08.300
<v Speaker 5>Do you think, or make them look smart?

1:00:08.320 --> 1:00:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Like, It's actually helpful for spotting jugular veins. Yeah. Get

1:00:15.840 --> 1:00:16.160
<v Speaker 2>in there.

1:00:16.180 --> 1:00:17.870
<v Speaker 1>He's making it real obvious. You're talking to him like,

1:00:17.890 --> 1:00:21.570
<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're just looking at my neck. One eye.

1:00:22.210 --> 1:00:22.490
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But Blade, I think Blade is the top one I

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<v Speaker 1>think of. Because the thing was, he was like biracial

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<v Speaker 1>in this way that I was like, yes, there I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a day walker. I remember like joking that I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a day walker too, bro. Goddamn day walker.

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<v Speaker 2>I just put an image in there. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>first Dracula who kissed, like, one of his victims. 1944's

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<v Speaker 2>House of Frankenstein. I gotta say, damn, dog, that neck

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<v Speaker 2>must be making Dracula horny.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah. Look at the neck on that.

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<v Speaker 2>That thing is... gravy dick and shit right there that.

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<v Speaker 7>Was the longest problematic vampire chat right now they're like

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<v Speaker 7>yeah damn bro ask her what that neck do bro

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<v Speaker 7>the fuck bro hey bro if you ain't having it

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<v Speaker 7>let me know bro let me know dog.

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<v Speaker 5>Look at that jug that is Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>The jugs on that one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>Lowest common denominator.

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<v Speaker 2>You were, uh, Blake.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful having you. You've knocked out two of our most

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<v Speaker 2>iconic figures with us. Dracula and Santa Claus. Dracula. Santa Claus. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And gut felt. Um, Whoever wins, we all lose. Where

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<v Speaker 2>can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

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<v Speaker 5>People can find me at Blake Wexler on all social media.

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<v Speaker 5>November 21st, I do stand-up comedy. On November 21st, I'll

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<v Speaker 5>be in Cape Charles, Virginia. The 27th, Claude's Comedy Club

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<v Speaker 5>in Philly. Get tickets to that. January 15th, Portland, Maine.

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<v Speaker 5>And January 16th, Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>Boston.

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<v Speaker 2>Go home, Avatar. Miles, where can people find you?

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<v Speaker 1>You already know. If it's not this show, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>420 Day Fiance or Ain't It Footy.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't it, though?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is. It's a soccer podcast for those that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe are listening for the first time.

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<v Speaker 3>Come around.

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<v Speaker 2>Come through. Like Dracula inviting you to his castle.

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<v Speaker 5>Miles, I'm sorry about Manchester City, by the way. You

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<v Speaker 5>must be completely torn up about all this.

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<v Speaker 1>The charges, yeah, against my arch nemesis. Is a team

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<v Speaker 1>a nemesis or nemesis? I guess a team is a

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<v Speaker 1>singular thing.

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<v Speaker 5>A singular, like a corporation.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to take a quick break. We'll come back

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<v Speaker 2>with the Notebook Dump.

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<v Speaker 4>Notebook Dump. I'm going to make toilet in the notebook. Go, please,

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<v Speaker 4>go make your toilet. I love an author who's just like.

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<v Speaker 2>People are going to want to know why he's going

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<v Speaker 2>right to eat without taking a shit. Well, you must

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<v Speaker 2>in desperate need to make your toilet after that long journey.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny if you say it in common parlance. It'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, damn, dude, you probably need to take a

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<v Speaker 1>wild shit, right? After that trip. So yeah, bro, go

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<v Speaker 1>take a big shit right now. And when you come out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have the meal ready for you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably want to take a shower or take a nap.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like, no, you're going to want to take a

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<v Speaker 5>humongous shit as we all do when we travel.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, man. Yeah. You know how it is, bro. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if Dracula just knows, like, when people get bit,

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<v Speaker 1>they just act like they just evacuate their bowels or something,

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<v Speaker 1>where he's like, oh, shit, again.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get ahead of this. He's actually a GI doctor.

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<v Speaker 7>Dr.

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<v Speaker 2>Acula, the GI doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always just doing, like, some kind of colon analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>just checking your digestive tract. He's like, this is all

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<v Speaker 1>your blood tastes like shit.

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<v Speaker 2>What have you been eating?

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<v Speaker 1>Get this checked out, my man. Sorry. All right.

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<v Speaker 8>I've always wondered if vampires do have like, like a type,

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<v Speaker 8>like a preference or like, do they like vegans or

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<v Speaker 8>do they like, like what kind of, because I would

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<v Speaker 8>imagine you'd be able to like, There's just certain types

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<v Speaker 8>of people you don't want to be sucking on.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a great question, and I want you to

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<v Speaker 5>keep this.

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<v Speaker 2>I want you to keep this, Brian. Because this is...

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<v Speaker 2>Like a very real thing in the world of mosquitoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I've interviewed, I've been talking to a lot of mosquitoes. No,

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<v Speaker 2>like my.

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<v Speaker 1>Mosquitoes love my ass.

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<v Speaker 2>My wife has delicious blood, apparently, and I have garbage

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<v Speaker 2>juice pumping through my veins because they leave me completely alone. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>we sleep next to each other, brag, and she gets,

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<v Speaker 2>she gets etched. to death and i'm just sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>completely undisturbed so like i yeah i i bet dracula's

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<v Speaker 2>would just be like this guy this guy's blood fucking

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<v Speaker 2>sucks yeah he bites me he He bites my neck

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<v Speaker 2>and then spits it out like he's a suck-starting, like,

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<v Speaker 2>a gas thing, you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Like trying to siphon gas.

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<v Speaker 8>Like, I imagine, like, I like to imagine that they have, like,

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<v Speaker 8>it's like, ooh, I don't really do O negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you got any, like, AB or.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sure. Right, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it better if they're just, like, Ray Sremmurd.

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't got no type, you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that it'd be funny to see a vampire gag

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<v Speaker 1>on blood because it tastes so terrible to them yeah

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<v Speaker 1>oh god oh you don't want to keep going no

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<v Speaker 1>uh was that enough to turn or i just like

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<v Speaker 1>you were left out.

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<v Speaker 2>What is this guy jesus christ he must be shit-faced

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<v Speaker 2>how much alcohol is in his blood A lot of

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<v Speaker 2>blood of Christ jokes, I'm sure. Hell yeah. Anyways, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right back with the notebook dump.

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<v Speaker 1>Dump. He does love to talk about dumps.

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<v Speaker 2>You must take a dump now. Welcome to my castle.

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<v Speaker 2>You must take a dump.

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<v Speaker 5>You might notice the bathroom is conveniently right near the

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<v Speaker 5>front door.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've probably heard I'm into blood. This has

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with that. It's just my freaky thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is an eighth bathroom.

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<v Speaker 2>Fuck the joke up.

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<v Speaker 1>And while you're in there, I'm going to fix something

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<v Speaker 1>underneath the house. Just don't mind me. I'm just into

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<v Speaker 1>pipes of all types. Don't worry. If you hear some

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<v Speaker 1>pipes banging, it's nothing untoward.

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<v Speaker 8>I like how Miles is slowly slipping into a BB Netanyahu.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, bro. It's slowly morphing into a BB.

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<v Speaker 8>Honestly, BB would be a fucking fantastic vampire.

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<v Speaker 1>Holy shit.

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<v Speaker 2>I would watch that movie. All right, that was Dracula.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the no, no, no, no book dump. We

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<v Speaker 2>do have an unfortunate update to this episode. The second

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<v Speaker 2>we stopped recording, Super Producer Catherine was like, you guys

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<v Speaker 2>were having so much fun. I didn't have the heart

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<v Speaker 2>to break it to you, but... another plane has hit

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<v Speaker 2>the tower. We're under attack. Uh, no, we didn't record

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<v Speaker 2>this on nine 11. She said, I didn't have the

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<v Speaker 2>heart to break it to you, but, uh, making your

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<v Speaker 2>toilet probably didn't mean taking a shit. Uh, when Bram

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<v Speaker 2>Stoker wrote that, um, which is equally devastating news, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>a nine 11 for this episode, since, uh, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>for so long and with such enthusiasm about Dracula and,

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<v Speaker 2>inviting him to take a shit for, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>30 minutes of the episode. So, um, but yeah, apparently

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<v Speaker 2>make your toilet at the time meant freshening up. I

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<v Speaker 2>found a Reddit thread where someone encountered the phrase in

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<v Speaker 2>an Agatha Christie novel. Uh, I'm going to read from

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<v Speaker 2>it here. It says, hi, I'm reading Agatha Christie's, the

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<v Speaker 2>mysterious affair at styles. And on page 38, it says,

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<v Speaker 2>I related the whole story whilst he himself made a

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<v Speaker 2>careful and deliberate toilet. I'm not certain. I understand what

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<v Speaker 2>making a toilet means in this context. And by way

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<v Speaker 2>of answer to the comment, someone said it was used

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<v Speaker 2>to describe the process of washing and grooming yourself in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning. The room used to do this would later

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<v Speaker 2>be called the toilet. So Dracula was probably just being

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<v Speaker 2>a good host and allowing his guests to freshen up,

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<v Speaker 2>because presumably the road back then was a dirty, sweaty place,

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<v Speaker 2>rather than saying, you look and smell like shit. He said,

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<v Speaker 2>you will, of course, want to clean the dirt and

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<v Speaker 2>foul-smelling nastiness off yourself. Anyways, equally unfortunate that the Agatha

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<v Speaker 2>Christie character was probably not Really relating a story to

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<v Speaker 2>a man who is taking a careful and deliberate shit

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<v Speaker 2>as much as that idea fires my imagination to try

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<v Speaker 2>and picture what that would even mean. I will say

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<v Speaker 2>I did further research because I wanted to justify that conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say one of the explanations that I've heard

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<v Speaker 2>for why this didn't mean taking a shit is that

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<v Speaker 2>people didn't have toilets in the house at that time.

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<v Speaker 2>They were outhouses and then a toilet was a room

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<v Speaker 2>for freshening. But Dracula wasn't living in a shotgun shack. OK,

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<v Speaker 2>he would have had a castle with literal poop shoots

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<v Speaker 2>built in, according to Wikipedia. So it is entirely possible

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<v Speaker 2>that included in the in the invitation was an implication

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<v Speaker 2>of you've been on the road for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>The turtle must be poking his head out the back there,

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<v Speaker 2>my man. You must be touching cloth, my guy, to

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<v Speaker 2>quote Brian, the editor. That's what he said when we stopped. recording. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>I choose to believe in both cases people were describing

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<v Speaker 2>each other's shits. Also, if we had cut that part,

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<v Speaker 2>the episode would have been like 15 minutes long. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, on to non-toilet making dump related notebook dumps.

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<v Speaker 2>After talking about the axial age theory of how Dracula

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<v Speaker 2>and Sherlock Holmes came to their moment in of maintained

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<v Speaker 2>cultural relevance all these years later are two most filmed

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<v Speaker 2>literary figures kind of coming out of the same period,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I have my answer. I'm sure people have

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<v Speaker 2>heard up to this point, but, you know, the Axial

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<v Speaker 2>Age references this theory of history where some of the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest thinkers, you know, Confucius, Buddha, and a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>the great Greek philosophers philosophers all are kind of generating

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<v Speaker 2>their big world-changing ideas around the same time at different

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<v Speaker 2>places on the globe. And the axial age theory that

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<v Speaker 2>was fascinating to me is that both Dracula and Sherlock

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<v Speaker 2>Holmes come out at the same time. And the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I find it so interesting is that the axial age

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<v Speaker 2>theory suggests a counter to the great man theory. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not that the people who invented the characters in the

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<v Speaker 2>first place were so brilliant or really the original characters

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<v Speaker 2>themselves were so brilliant. It's, it's the process of, of,

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<v Speaker 2>designing and redesigning them is where I've landed at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>They came up through the writer's room that was silent films,

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<v Speaker 2>stage plays, early talkies, thousands of novelizations. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>were initially designed like every other character, but sometimes something

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<v Speaker 2>about that particular place in time, that particular, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Plinko path through pop culture history meant that they were...

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<v Speaker 2>constantly redesigned and improved on you know if one person

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<v Speaker 2>gets one crack at designing dracula you get rom stoker's

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<v Speaker 2>dracula some good scary shit in there but also he's

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<v Speaker 2>a nasty old hairy man that nobody wants to fuck

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<v Speaker 2>this locus of sexual energy that like oozes into your

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<v Speaker 2>bedroom and nibbles on your neck uh they hadn't even

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<v Speaker 2>thought to make him hot for like the first 40

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<v Speaker 2>rewrites But if 100 people get 100 cracks at designing

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<v Speaker 2>it and redesigning it, you get sort of a pop

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<v Speaker 2>culture natural selection. You get the beauty and brilliance of

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<v Speaker 2>nature in a way. So, you know, if one person

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<v Speaker 2>designs it one time, you get a character that turns

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<v Speaker 2>into a giant beetle and is like scary to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people at the time, but not timeless.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And kind of looks ridiculous to us in retrospect. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's my theory is that Sherlock and Dracula were

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<v Speaker 2>both characters that got designed and redesigned and, you know, improved.

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<v Speaker 2>And the good ideas stuck. to them. And they were

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<v Speaker 2>the ones who came through the best path, the best

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<v Speaker 2>patch of pop culture history. All right. A quick, a

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<v Speaker 2>quick word about Romania's relationship to Dracula, which we didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get to. Transylvania is a region in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>Romania and they have a thriving Dracula tourism industry. But

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<v Speaker 2>they're conflicted because, and I love this fact about Romania

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<v Speaker 2>so much. They're conflicted because Vlad the Impaler is a

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<v Speaker 2>national hero. From a History Today article called Dracula Beats

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<v Speaker 2>the Communists, nationalist historians during the 19th and 20th century

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<v Speaker 2>lauded him, Vlad the Impaler, as a strong leader who

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<v Speaker 2>defended his country against external threats during turbulent times. But

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<v Speaker 2>you create one forest of the impaled out of the

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<v Speaker 2>thousands of people that you slaughtered and suddenly you're the

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<v Speaker 2>bad guy. I don't know. I just, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if he's called Vlad the Impaler by people in Romania,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do just, I want to believe what that

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<v Speaker 2>says about Romania, that one of their national heroes is

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<v Speaker 2>named Vlad the Impaler. Like, obviously we have monsters on

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<v Speaker 2>Mount Rushmore. We just pretend... They didn't do that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't call him George the Slave Teeth Grave Robber.

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<v Speaker 2>We call him, you know, George Washington and make up

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<v Speaker 2>stories about how honest he is. Anyways, last year it

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<v Speaker 2>was announced that Romania would open a 1 billion euro

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<v Speaker 2>theme park destination called Dracula Land and also a Dracula

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<v Speaker 2>Land Metaverse and a cryptocurrency called Dracula Coin. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just going to say... Uh, I am a sell on

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<v Speaker 2>this particular investment opportunity. Uh, Jim Cramer, that's, uh, for

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<v Speaker 2>that reason, I'm out. We, we just talked on Friday's

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<v Speaker 2>episode of the daily zeitgeist about an American theme park. That, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>was a scam. We've covered an Indiana Garfield theme park

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<v Speaker 2>and the Garfield iconograph that never went anywhere, but cost

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<v Speaker 2>millions of dollars. Uh, we covered in the main episode,

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<v Speaker 2>an Iowa field of dreams theme park. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>money suck. I feel like we need to talk to

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<v Speaker 2>Lacey Mosley about this. Theme parks that never break ground

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<v Speaker 2>are a growth industry in our nation of scam artists.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, while there was a heavy focus on vampires

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<v Speaker 2>who fuck, I should note that one of the superpowers

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<v Speaker 2>of Dracula, I will say, is range. Not just from

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<v Speaker 2>bat to person form, but also from adult freak for

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<v Speaker 2>R-rated and PG-13 horny films, but also ranging to a

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<v Speaker 2>children's character. We, of course, mentioned The Count on Sesame Street,

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<v Speaker 2>but Hotel Transylvania was a massive franchise that continues to be.

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<v Speaker 2>I will just say I once saw Adam Sandler at

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<v Speaker 2>a pool uh doing his dracula voice while playing with

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<v Speaker 2>his kids which was cool and a treat and seems

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<v Speaker 2>like a good dad uh speaking of dracula's for all

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<v Speaker 2>ages i i think it's also significant that he is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the star of the very first my very

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<v Speaker 2>first encounter with halloween culture, which was the monster mash.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to do a quick monster mash power

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<v Speaker 2>rankings here because yeah, so here, here, let's just go

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<v Speaker 2>through the characters that it mentions. It mentions ghouls. It

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<v Speaker 2>mentions my monster. which is Frankenstein's monster because it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of being narrated loosely by Frankenstein. His name is not Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Boris, but it's Frankenstein. He's working in the lab

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<v Speaker 2>late one night. They mentioned vampires by name, like just

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<v Speaker 2>vampires as a group. Uh, they mentioned the zombies were

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<v Speaker 2>having fun. Uh, then they go individuals. They say the

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<v Speaker 2>guests included Wolfman, Dracula and his son. Uh, and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course they mentioned Igor on chains backed by his

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<v Speaker 2>bang hounds. Um, and I gotta say, well, it may

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<v Speaker 2>be narrated by Dr. Frankenstein. I feel like it's clear

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<v Speaker 2>who the star is here. Um, First of all, inside

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<v Speaker 2>the world of this party, Dracula appears to be the

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<v Speaker 2>only one who was granted a plus one. He brings

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<v Speaker 2>his son, only monster who is named not by type.

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<v Speaker 2>The Wolfman is called Wolfman. Frankenstein's monster is called My Monster.

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<v Speaker 2>Very dismissive for being your monster. Vampires are mentioned, but

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<v Speaker 2>also so is Dracula. So a individual character as distinguished

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<v Speaker 2>from type, they even go all Hollywood and start calling

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<v Speaker 2>him Drac during the course of the song. Like someone

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<v Speaker 2>pretending to be friends with Martin Scorsese and calling him Marty.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's also in the text of the song. Dracula

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<v Speaker 2>is the only character who goes on a journey. So

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<v Speaker 2>in one verse, we hear out from his coffin, Drac's

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<v Speaker 2>voice did ring. Seems he was troubled by just one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>opened the lid and shook his fist and said, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>happened to my Transylvania twist? God damn it. Uh, he's furious. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I added the God damn it. Um, and then, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that conflict is resolved in the very, the very next verse.

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<v Speaker 2>When we learn now, everything's cool. Drax, a part of

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<v Speaker 2>the band. Anyway, I could maybe see an argument for

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<v Speaker 2>Frankenstein's monster, uh, since the story mentions electrodes and, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>as told by Frankenstein's monsters creator and features Igor, um,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's at, it's at his house. It's a house

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<v Speaker 2>party thrown at Frankenstein's monster's house. Um, I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>just a matter of the fundamentals of the monsters, like

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<v Speaker 2>which monster fundamentally seems cooler, uh, And I've always said, like, Frankenstein's... Like,

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<v Speaker 2>Dracula's mode of attack, as we talked about, is biting

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<v Speaker 2>your neck, which is scary. Scariest place to get bitten,

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<v Speaker 2>as far as I know. Zombies will come for any

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<v Speaker 2>part of you, but Dracula's always going for the jugular,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't like. Frankenstein's mode of attack is bonking,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like, and that's what I picture in my

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<v Speaker 2>head as a bonk-based attack. But yeah, just generally, Dracula, like...

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<v Speaker 2>He's such a rich character. It even comes through in

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<v Speaker 2>Monster Man. Like, Dracula is a diva. And the bloodsucking

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<v Speaker 2>is just generally... Too rich a metaphor. The bloodsucking and

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<v Speaker 2>cannibalism at the heart of the Dracula myth only gets

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<v Speaker 2>more applicable. Weird rich guys are always going to try

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<v Speaker 2>and bleed you dry and sneak into your girlfriend's bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to give Dracula the number one spot

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<v Speaker 2>in my monster match. Power rankings. I'm happy to hear

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<v Speaker 2>cases for others. I do wonder if the thing that

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<v Speaker 2>broke the vampires are Democrats, zombies, or Republicans dynamic is

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<v Speaker 2>Not so much like Trump himself, but just that all

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<v Speaker 2>of us have a more proper respect for the vampiric

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<v Speaker 2>ghoulishness of the wealthy at this point. We've come to

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<v Speaker 2>realize that vampires are definitely Republicans in a lot of cases.

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<v Speaker 2>So I will say the other kind of foundational text

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<v Speaker 2>of my childhood for Halloween culture is thriller. And vampires

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<v Speaker 2>don't even appear in shows. It goes Wolfman into a

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<v Speaker 2>zombie movie. It's, of course, narrated by Vincent Price, who

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<v Speaker 2>himself is an actual vampire, but nothing textually to do

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<v Speaker 2>with vampires in the video that I remember. So, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That could be your argument if you want to argue

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<v Speaker 2>for zombies or wolfmen. In the Monster Mash Power Rankings,

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<v Speaker 2>the phone lines are open. Let me know what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>That is going to do it. Thanks to Blake Wexler

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<v Speaker 2>for joining, to Miles, as always, to J.M. McNabb for

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<v Speaker 2>the research, and to Brian, the editor, for putting it

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<v Speaker 2>all together. Next week, we are moving on to a

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<v Speaker 2>more modern monster, a modern pop culture movie character who

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<v Speaker 2>I think is... the most iconic bad guy, uh, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of spooky bad guy to date partly, uh, because of

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<v Speaker 2>just the flawlessness of the execution of like how he

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<v Speaker 2>was brought to life, uh, partly because of, um, some

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<v Speaker 2>huge ideas that he represents and partly because he seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to like cross over into reality. Uh, it's a real

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<v Speaker 2>juicy one next week. One of my favorite iconograph conversations

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<v Speaker 2>yet with, uh, Kim and Ket from Kim and Ket

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<v Speaker 2>Stay Alive Maybe. Until then, more spooky news. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're back this afternoon to talk about what happened over

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<v Speaker 2>the weekend. Until then.

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