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Speaker 1: The President nominated Brett Kavanaugh on July nine. Within moments

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Speaker 1: compassion you afforded Professor Ford will at least have some

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Speaker 1: unintended positive consequences. Mr. President. The politically charged atmosphere surrounding

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Speaker 1: this nomination has reached a fever pitch even before these

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Speaker 1: allegations were known, and it has been challenging even then

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Speaker 1: to separate fact from fiction. We live in a time

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Speaker 1: of such grace great disunity, as the bitter fight over

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Speaker 1: this nomination, both in the Senate and among the public

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Speaker 1: clearly demonstrates. It is not merely a case of differing

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Speaker 1: groups having different opinions. It is the case of people

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Speaker 1: bearing extreme ill will towards those who disagree with them.

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Speaker 1: In our intense focus on our differences, we have forgotten

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Speaker 1: the common values that bind us together as Americans. When

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Speaker 1: some of our best minds are seeking to develop even

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Speaker 1: more sophisticated algorithms designed to link us to websites that

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Speaker 1: only by just giving our heads up again to the

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Speaker 1: affiliates of the Sean Hannity Show network, Susan Collins this

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Speaker 1: historic speech on the Senate floor, we will continue our

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Speaker 1: coverage and cater to our views. We can only expect

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Speaker 1: our differences to intensify. This would have alarmed the drafters

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Speaker 1: of our Constitution, who were acutely aware that different values

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Speaker 1: and interests could prevent Americans from becoming and remaining a

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Speaker 1: single people. Indeed, of the six objectives they invoked in

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Speaker 1: the Preamble to the Constitution, the one that they put

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Speaker 1: first was the formation of a more perfect union. Their

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Speaker 1: vision of a more perfect union does not exist today,

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Speaker 1: and if anything, we appear to be moving farther away

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Speaker 1: from it. It is particularly worrisome that the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: of our shared constitutional heritage, is viewed as part of

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Speaker 1: the problem through a political lens. Mr. President, We've heard

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Speaker 1: a lot of charges and counter charges about Judge Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: but as those who have known him best have attested,

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Speaker 1: he has been an exemplary public servant, judge, teacher, coach, husband,

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Speaker 1: and father. Despite the turbulent bitter fights surrounding his nomination,

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Speaker 1: my bourbon hope is that Brett Kavanaugh will work to

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Speaker 1: lessen the divisions in the Supreme Court so that we

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Speaker 1: have far fewer five forward decisions and so that public

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Speaker 1: confidence in our judiciary and our highest court is restored.

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Speaker 1: Mr President, I will vote to confirm Judge Cabinet. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: Mr President. I think one of the more amazing speeches

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Speaker 1: and I have now It's actually interesting because as of

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Speaker 1: tomorrow I begin my twenty three year on the Fox

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Speaker 1: News Channel and my thirty years on radio, that was

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Speaker 1: one of the most thoughtful speeches I think I've ever heard,

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Speaker 1: and I'm frankly shocked. Um. Susan Collins over the years

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Speaker 1: has frustrated the of in daylights out of me, of

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Speaker 1: our opinions. I think what stands out more than anything

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Speaker 1: else is the the sincere compelling amount of gravity that

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Speaker 1: sense of sanity to what has become an absolute as

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Speaker 1: she said, circus around the country and systematically went over

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Speaker 1: every single aspect of her decision making process, from Judge Kavanaugh,

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Speaker 1: his judicial temperament, the questions that he specifically answered, her

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Speaker 1: passionate about especially and I disagree with her on on

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Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade, but on the issue of constitutional precedents,

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Speaker 1: the role of advice and consent, and the respect that

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Speaker 1: she is showing the Constitution, the process and the whole

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Speaker 1: advice and consent. Now, with Susan Collins a yes and

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Speaker 1: Jeff Flake saying he is a yes on Kavanaugh, that

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Speaker 1: now brings us to well, Lisa Murkowski seemingly is a

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Speaker 1: no that brings us to fifty Uh what Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: comes down to I guess at this point Joe Mansion

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Speaker 1: and Lisa Murkowski, and Lisa Murkowski appears to be a no,

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Speaker 1: and I guess Mansion could be the yes. Is our

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Speaker 1: math right on this? Who else is outstanding at this

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Speaker 1: point because everybody else I think is on record. Yeah, Now,

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Speaker 1: I on think it will be a surprise he voted yes.

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Speaker 1: To to end, uh, to start the debate, the thirty

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Speaker 1: hours final vote that will happen. Mansion, Well, here we go.

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Speaker 1: It just broke. Mansion is voting yes to confirm Judge Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 1: The votes are there. Poor Steve Danes has that is

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Speaker 1: supposed to walk his daughter down the aisle tomorrow in

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Speaker 1: the middle of this vote. I don't know how they're

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Speaker 1: what I had admired. I think the most about this

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Speaker 1: speech is the pressure under which Susan Collins has been

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Speaker 1: There is literally in Maine going on now, and by

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Speaker 1: the way, Maine is not exactly one of the most

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Speaker 1: expensive media markets. But she talked in the beginning at

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Speaker 1: and talk about it being a gutter political campaign and

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Speaker 1: And um, wow, this is pretty amazing. That was just

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Speaker 1: an amazing speech. One Shawn is aute free telephone number.

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Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham is going to join us now at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the hour. Alright, Mansion voting yes, Flake voting yes,

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Speaker 1: and now Susan Collins voting yes, which means the votes

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Speaker 1: hour to Sean Hannity's show. So I um, I don't

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Speaker 1: really get this impress us by any one speech by

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Speaker 1: any politician. Uh. The the thoroughness, the seriousness of Senator

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Speaker 1: Collins of Maine just before announcing she will vote yes

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Speaker 1: to confirm Judge Kavanaugh to the United States Supreme Court. Literally,

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Speaker 1: blow me, blew me away. It is she went through everything,

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Speaker 1: she went through the court, his testimony, the precedents, the allegations,

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Speaker 1: how the presumption of innocence is so important, the role

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Speaker 1: question and and for the most part in keeping her

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Speaker 1: feelings to herself. Uh. We now have an announcement that

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Speaker 1: Joe Mansion of West Virginia is a yes and he

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Speaker 1: will support Judge Kavanaugh. And we know that Senator Flake

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Speaker 1: of Arizona is now a yes. He has announced he's

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Speaker 1: voting for Judge Kavanaugh. It looks like Lisa Murkowski, though

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Speaker 1: she has not officially the announced, she voted uh no

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Speaker 1: on the issue of ending cloture and and ending debate

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Speaker 1: in thirty hours, So I would assume that she's probably

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Speaker 1: a note at this point. Uh, let's bring in and well,

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Speaker 1: let's first play. Here's Joe Manchind making his announcement right

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Speaker 1: after Susan Collins center explain your decision to vote for

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Speaker 1: First of all, I saw that Sandra Collins. I wanted

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Speaker 1: how to respect. I wanted to watch her give hers

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Speaker 1: and she has to do that. And I knew when

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Speaker 1: I saw she was going to do that, I says, fine,

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Speaker 1: I watched it, and Uh, then I, um, I made

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Speaker 1: my decision, and I get my reasons for my decision.

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Speaker 1: Ours went out and we want to make sure you

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Speaker 1: can listen to the people here. Are you concerned about

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Speaker 1: much concerned basically with it's actually reduced that people have

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Speaker 1: had to endure, and very much concerned that we have

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Speaker 1: to do something as a comfortable well, I had to

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Speaker 1: deal with the facts I had in front of you.

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Speaker 1: Believe the allegation, I just you know, I never thought

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Speaker 1: of it. Basically, two it would have had as I

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Speaker 1: had to vote on the taps. I hadn't friendly if

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Speaker 1: I had been in that position, I would like to

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Speaker 1: have brought this place back to normal procedure if i'd

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Speaker 1: have had that off the time to a sixty vote threshold.

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Speaker 1: But why did you wait? Why did you wait for

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Speaker 1: Collins to make her announcement before you made your announcement.

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Speaker 1: I think that was basically what was. I saw her

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Speaker 1: do that, But you did you follow her? Did you

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Speaker 1: just decided to vote that way because she voted you? Oh? No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I think everyone everyone labored with us. Everybody labored with

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Speaker 1: do villing since I was all morning wrong. Everything, keep

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Speaker 1: not voting with her party affect your decision at all?

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Speaker 1: How does Senator Murkowski voting no affect your decision at all?

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Speaker 1: Creating it by person on both sides. Kotkowski is a

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Speaker 1: very very very very dear friend of mine, very dear

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Speaker 1: friend of mine and I she did everything and just

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Speaker 1: crossed every tea dollared every time, and she went through

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Speaker 1: the same process we all did. She come to a

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Speaker 1: different conclusion. I came to my conclusion really this morning

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Speaker 1: when I went through another hour and a half. You

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Speaker 1: believe do you believe the allegations? I believe Dr Ford.

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Speaker 1: Something happened to doctor for I don't believe that the

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Speaker 1: facts showed that it was Brett Kavanaugh, but I believe

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Speaker 1: something happened. Do you think here was someone else that

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Speaker 1: did it. I think something happened to her either. There

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Speaker 1: was no way, no way at all that we could see.

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Speaker 1: So what do you say to women who watched this

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Speaker 1: process unfold her Doctor Ford's story and the judge Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: is getting confirmed anyway, even though they've stepped forward and

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Speaker 1: that the Senate is essentially I've had people all over

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Speaker 1: westward when you come for and I have the dators,

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Speaker 1: I mean just the respect, but also this the but

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Speaker 1: basically that hurt the people have the trauma they've gone through,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know. I mean empathy and sympathy, and

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Speaker 1: I'll do anything I can to make sure that they

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Speaker 1: are her, to make sure this doesn't continue. I think

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Speaker 1: this is an adequate FBI investigation into Kavan. Normally have

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Speaker 1: what's in for in front of me. That's all I

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Speaker 1: had in front of me. Now, based on what you've seen,

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Speaker 1: basically what was that? Do you think there should have

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Speaker 1: been more instigation. I think there's always more that could

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Speaker 1: have been done. I guess so people are looking at it.

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Speaker 1: I looked at what was in front of me, and

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Speaker 1: I had to make a decision. But based on what

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Speaker 1: you've seen, was that a thorough investigation by the effidence

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Speaker 1: it was from my staff of the story, from what

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Speaker 1: I saw the people that I was concerned about how

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Speaker 1: they said and what they said and how they did it.

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Speaker 1: I did. Senator, do you think that there's still a

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Speaker 1: place in the Democratic Party for you after this? I'm

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Speaker 1: just a West Virginia, I'm just a good or West.

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Speaker 1: But you're up for re election a difficult race. Are

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Speaker 1: you concerned the basis going to revolt? And I didn't

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Speaker 1: look at this from the political stampa are with catinost temperament. All.

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Speaker 1: I know some Democrats express concerned with capitals semperment. The

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Speaker 1: Thursday bother me. The Thursday bothered me a lot. But

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Speaker 1: I saw that basically, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that al right,

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Speaker 1: that is the well, that's the party of Nancy Pelosi.

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Speaker 1: If in thirty two days she's the Speaker of the

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Speaker 1: we have seen in the Party of Chuck Schumer, and

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Speaker 1: put all due process aside, fundamental core values, constitutional protections

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Speaker 1: like the presumption of innocence aside, that will go along

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Speaker 1: with guilt by accusation. I think one of the more

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Speaker 1: articulate moments was in the beginning of Senator Colin's speech

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Speaker 1: today and how she rightly pointed out there was opposition

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Speaker 1: from day one. Chuck Schumer was one of them. There

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Speaker 1: was nobody the President Trump that was that was going

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Speaker 1: to be nominated, that was ever gonna pass to get

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Speaker 1: many Democrats from the get go. And I do believe

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Speaker 1: that that Joe Manchion probably assured his re election with

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Speaker 1: this decision today. But I don't really got I don't

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Speaker 1: really get the sense after reading his statement and hearing

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Speaker 1: of the Senate today, that that really much impacted him

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Speaker 1: much at all. I got the sense that he did

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Speaker 1: it for all the right reasons, as was articulated by

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Speaker 1: Senator Collins, and what was the most riveting one hour

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Speaker 1: speeches I think I've ever seen on the Senate floor

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Speaker 1: that actually meant something, and how she systematically went through

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Speaker 1: every single not only allegation, but the role of advice

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Speaker 1: and consent, the meaning of the Constitution, the interpretation of

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Speaker 1: the Federalist papers, um, what it means, the whole issue

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Speaker 1: and process of of of presumption of innocence, and and

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Speaker 1: how important it is to society, even issues where I

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Speaker 1: disagree with her, like for example, Roe v. Wade and

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Speaker 1: precedence and and Judge Kavanaugh's real record. She she brought

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Speaker 1: a level of seriousness and sobriety to the entire debate.

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Speaker 1: I just I don't know her, and I frankly was

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Speaker 1: blown away by this. Today, you give us some reaction

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Speaker 1: to all this, We have David Shown's Civil Liberties Attorney,

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Speaker 1: Criminal Defense attorney Greg Jarrett, Box News legal analysts, author

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Speaker 1: of the number one best seller of the Russian Hoax. Greg,

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Speaker 1: what was your reaction to that speech? I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you had the same reaction I did. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was stunned. I don't know Susan Collins well, but

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Speaker 1: I know her better today. It was nothing short of brilliant.

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Speaker 1: Uh with uncommon eloquence and sound reasoning. She delivered the

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Speaker 1: finest speech on the floor of the U. S. Senate

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Speaker 1: that that I've ever witnessed in for a non lawyer.

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Speaker 1: It was a compelling legal brief and support of Kavanaugh.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was important that at the outset Collins

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Speaker 1: condemned the outrageous behavior that distortions by special interest groups,

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Speaker 1: activist protesters, and some Democratic senator is making it clear

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Speaker 1: that they're shameful. Character assassination backfired on them as far

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Speaker 1: as her vote is concerned, and I the best part

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Speaker 1: of what she said was recounting many of Kavanaugh's opinions

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Speaker 1: to demonstrate that even Democrats and Liberals should be satisfied,

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Speaker 1: if not pleased, with Kavanaugh as a Supreme Court justice.

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Speaker 1: But you know, she did something unique here. She rebutted

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Speaker 1: the sexual misconduct allegations, and said in no uncertain terms

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Speaker 1: that presumption of innocence and fairness is relevant in the

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Speaker 1: Senate Advise and Consent duty. And she announced her own

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Speaker 1: standard for considering accusation. She said it should be more

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Speaker 1: likely than not, which lawyers know in the civil cases

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Speaker 1: is called a preponderance of the evidence, and she said

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Speaker 1: it wasn't there there were no witnesses to corroborate Christine Ford,

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Speaker 1: including her closest friend, nobody has any recollection of it.

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Speaker 1: All said so under penalty of perjury. So she presented

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Speaker 1: that was what was probably the most impressive, I mean

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Speaker 1: her a real obvious, heartfelt caring for Professor Ford, also

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Speaker 1: excoriating whoever it was, and she doesn't believe it was

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Speaker 1: Diane Feinstein, and she defended both her and Senator Grassley

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Speaker 1: in terms of the fairness, which I've said from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: I think the seriousness of the allegation deserved a serious

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Speaker 1: response from the Republicans, and I'm often a critic of them,

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Speaker 1: and I think they did handle this perfectly on their side.

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Speaker 1: And but whoever did leak this did a grave disservice

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Speaker 1: to this woman. And there's no doubt about that. David Shone,

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Speaker 1: let me bring you in and get your initial thoughts

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Speaker 1: on what we watched on Faulds. Here. Now, with the

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Speaker 1: announcement Jeff Flake, Joe Manchin, and Susan Collins, it would

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Speaker 1: appear that tomorrow's vote expected to be around five in

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Speaker 1: the afternoon Eastern time on a Saturday, that the that

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Speaker 1: Judge Kavanaugh has the votes to be confirmed to the

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Speaker 1: United States Supreme Court. Right, it certainly looks that way.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to think that Senator collins speech brought some

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Speaker 1: dignity back to the process. That certainly did for the

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Speaker 1: moments in which you was speaking. She, you know, is

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Speaker 1: a student of Senator Bill Cohen from Maine. I was

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Speaker 1: a very close friend of mine with whom I disagreed

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Speaker 1: on some issues. But it was he thinks in that

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Speaker 1: same vein, You're absolutely right. What she said was so

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Speaker 1: critically important. Again, it emphasized the language of Article two

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Speaker 1: section to the President, siill have the power with the

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Speaker 1: advice and consent. That's what's been lost in all of this.

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Speaker 1: Also critically important that she emphasized the presumption of innocence.

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Speaker 1: You have some legal scholars and commentators during the course

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Speaker 1: of this debate, while all of a sudden has said, well,

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Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence doesn't really apply. This isn't a trial.

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Speaker 1: It's not a trial based concept in American law. That's

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Speaker 1: in a fundamental bedrock American principle. That's the way we

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Speaker 1: go about our business. We don't assume, based on alec

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Speaker 1: Asian in a manager or a woman who's built up

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Speaker 1: a career is guilty. So it's important for that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I worry still I have to say about where we

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Speaker 1: go from here, because we achieved behavior by United States

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Speaker 1: senators and has been beyond the pale that I never

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Speaker 1: in my wildest perhaps naive dreams, could have imagined was possible.

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Speaker 1: People who simply don't know anything about Professor Ford or

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Speaker 1: Judge Kavanaugh, who took carved out a position you were

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Speaker 1: a bad guy if you didn't wear black to Columbia

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Speaker 1: Law School during the Kavanaugh hearing, because that meant that

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Speaker 1: you might believe Judge Kavanaugh. This is beyond the pale.

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Speaker 1: These are future lawyers. UM. So I wonder about where

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Speaker 1: we go from here. And last one I want to

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Speaker 1: make on this is the very same people who were

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Speaker 1: lambasting the President for daring to criticize crooked FBI agents

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Speaker 1: who have been proven to be crooked Struck, etcetera. Those

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Speaker 1: people for whom Struck was a hero are now criticized

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Speaker 1: in the FBI that this wasn't a fair or thorough investigation.

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Speaker 1: They moved the ball with their criticism. Whatever it is

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Speaker 1: for now, he's not that. But they don't like his

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Speaker 1: demeanor because he took it personally when they don't know.

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Speaker 1: They don't like his temperament. How is one supposed to

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Speaker 1: respond to be a serial drugger and gang rapist of

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Speaker 1: teenage girls. I don't know what the appropriate response except

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Speaker 1: if you're innocent, just outrage and anger at a level

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Speaker 1: that I couldn't even begin to describe. But uh, it

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Speaker 1: looks like this goes forward. It looks like Kavanaugh has

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Speaker 1: the votes that will support his nomination and that this

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Speaker 1: will conclude tomorrow barring any unforeseen last minute you know, insanity.

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Speaker 1: But I will tell you we one issue we've got

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Speaker 1: to deal with, and I'm I'm I gotta say goodbye

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Speaker 1: to both of you, Thank you both for weighing out

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Speaker 1: on this. Lindsey Graham is coming up. But I will

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Speaker 1: say one thing we have got to deal with how

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Speaker 1: what this has now become. It is a national disgusting,

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Speaker 1: personal bludgeoning disgrace. They have ruined this man's reputation in

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Speaker 1: eighteen days with zero corroboration. It's a national disgrace that

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Speaker 1: people rushed to judgment. And there was nobody, nobody that

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Speaker 1: on the Democratic side but per Mansion, that ever considered

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Speaker 1: voting for Judge Kavanaugh. I know, I said this, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna I'm just saying it again. I just maybe it

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Speaker 1: just never knew Susan Collins. Look, one thing that the

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Speaker 1: Republican Party has that the Democratic Party does not have.

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Speaker 1: There is not this monolithic, one voice radicalism that has

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Speaker 1: taken over the Democratic Party in the in the Republican Party,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was what's been fascinating to watch with

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Speaker 1: all of the madness, the bludgeoning, the character assassination, the smearing,

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Speaker 1: the lying, the intensity of the protests. And it's not

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Speaker 1: gonna stop. This is going to go forward. It's got

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Speaker 1: to stop if where ever we want to be the

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Speaker 1: United States of America. I mean, how is it the

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Speaker 1: Republicans always support Ruth Pader Geensberg and and Justice Soda

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Speaker 1: Mayor and Elana Kagan and Republican nominated get just get bludgeoned.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't matter if there's any corroborating evidence. You know,

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Speaker 1: one thing is I'm watching Susan Collins. The speech was

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Speaker 1: so well thought out, based on facts and the standards

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Speaker 1: that she uses to evaluate important issues. Maybe that's why

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Speaker 1: she kept it to herself pretty much the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knew what she was gonna do. That was just

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Speaker 1: not a nonpartisan speech. It was a speech and a

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Speaker 1: reminder of the dignity that we can have in spite

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Speaker 1: of disagreements, and talked about the law, the constitution, the

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Speaker 1: role of the Senate advising consent, and a little bit

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Speaker 1: of class. And she made all of these left wingers

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Speaker 1: that have been insane all these days, and it's going

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Speaker 1: to get worse unless we insisted stop in thirty two

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Speaker 1: days Lindsey Graham's next. In addition to the lack of

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Speaker 1: corroborating evidence, we also learned some facts that raised more questions.

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Speaker 1: For instance, since these allegations have become public, Professor Ford

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Speaker 1: testified that not a single person has contacted her to

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Speaker 1: say I was at the party that not. Furthermore, the

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Speaker 1: Professor testified that all those she does not remember how

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Speaker 1: she got home that evening, she knew that because of

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Speaker 1: the distance she would have needed or ride. Yet not

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Speaker 1: a single person has come for word to say that

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Speaker 1: they were the one who drove her home or were

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Speaker 1: in the car with her that night. And Professor Ford

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Speaker 1: also indicated that even though she left that small gathering

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Speaker 1: of six or so people abruptly and without saying goodbye

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Speaker 1: and distraught, none of them called her the next day

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Speaker 1: or ever to ask why she left? Is she okay?

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Speaker 1: Not even her closest friend Ms. Kaiser my Bourbent hope

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Speaker 1: is that Brett Kavanaugh will work to lessen the divisions

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Speaker 1: in the Supreme Court so that we have far fewer

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Speaker 1: five for decisions, and so that public confidence in our

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Speaker 1: judiciary and our highest court is restored. Mr Press incident,

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Speaker 1: I will vote to confirm Judge Cabinet. And with that,

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Speaker 1: Susan Collins announcing, I think one of the Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I thought it was the most powerful

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Speaker 1: speech in recent memory on the Senate floor that I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. It was thorough, it was sober, it was smart,

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Speaker 1: it was thoughtful, it was comprehensive. She went through everything

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Speaker 1: from judicial temperament and philosophy to her own belief system,

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Speaker 1: how she came to her decisions, her constitutional view on

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, on the roll of advice and consent,

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Speaker 1: on the madness in the circus that has broken out

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Speaker 1: in this country, and um I have I'm frankly. We

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Speaker 1: never run an entire commercial free hour unless it's really

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Speaker 1: important news, and we did that for you, our beloved audience,

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Speaker 1: because it was something that I wanted everybody to hear.

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Speaker 1: This is a moment in history. What has happened in

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Speaker 1: the last eighteen days can't continue to happen in this country.

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Speaker 1: You cannot bludge in people without any corroborating evidence the

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Speaker 1: way Judge Kavanaugh and his family have been bludgeoned. You

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Speaker 1: can have political differences, and I've had my share with

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Speaker 1: Senator Collins over the years. What I really realized today

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Speaker 1: is I don't know her well. She doesn't do a

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Speaker 1: lot of television. She's not somebody I've interviewed a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think the most impressive thing that I took away

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Speaker 1: from this is the seriousness, the intellect, the systematic She

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Speaker 1: walked every American through her decision making process and Frankly,

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Speaker 1: it was flawless. It was spectacular, nothing short of spectacular. Now,

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are spending a lot

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Speaker 1: of money, and it's probably only gonna get worse for

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Speaker 1: her because she clearly followed her conscience on this issue,

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Speaker 1: and she had it was obvious she missed nothing. She

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Speaker 1: had followed every single solitary detail of this process, did

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Speaker 1: all the work you would ever want or expect from

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Speaker 1: a representative. And and now I guess the left is

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Speaker 1: about as unhinged that they ben. I don't even think

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Speaker 1: it's safe to walk the Senate halls at this point.

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Speaker 1: Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, I would argue it

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Speaker 1: would not have happened but for him. He joins us

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Speaker 1: on her newsmaker line. Um, you know, you told me

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Speaker 1: something when I was in Washington earlier this week, and

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Speaker 1: I asked you, I said, well, what do you know

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Speaker 1: about Susan Collins? And you you basically describe what I

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01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: learned about her today. I was blown away, and I

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01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:06,919
Speaker 1: don't get blown away very often. Really, I'm too cynical.

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Speaker 1: I'm from New York, I've been in radio thirty years.

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Speaker 1: I'm tomorrow I start my twenty three year on the

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Speaker 1: Fox News Channel. Well, Uh, you know, I'm I'm in

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Speaker 1: a political system this deteriorating. I think what you saw

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Speaker 1: today somebody stepped forward to maybe save it. The biggest

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Speaker 1: winner of this speech is the judiciary, because there was

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Speaker 1: a wholesale attack on the independence of the judiciary, one

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Speaker 1: at all costs. What you saw today was a person

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Speaker 1: embracing the rule of law, not the rule of the mob.

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Speaker 1: Which you saw today was a woman not being intimidated.

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Speaker 1: What you saw today was a good man, Brett Kavanaugh,

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 1: being saved by a strong woman. Which you saw today

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Speaker 1: was everything good about the Senate, good about the country.

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Speaker 1: And I'll have my differences with Susan Collin Collins going forward,

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Speaker 1: but this is as close to McCarthy is um as

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Speaker 1: I hope I ever witness in my life. And if

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Speaker 1: anybody turned it around, it was Senator Collins. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: Senator you had a moment in this process too, and

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Speaker 1: and that moment came when they were going the hardest

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Speaker 1: after Judge Kavanaugh. I don't think any of us will

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Speaker 1: forget any time soon the things that this man was

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Speaker 1: accused of. And and I saw the outrage even with

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Speaker 1: Susan Collins that remember the accusation by Julie sweat Nick

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 1: was that, well, it's almost on a weekend basis that

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01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 1: that Judge Kavanaugh and others were routinely drugging girls, lining

878
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 1: up in halls, gang raping them, and it happened frequently.

879
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,240
Speaker 1: And I know that some people brought up the issue

880
01:12:50,280 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: of the judge's temperament. He addressed it in his Wall

881
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Speaker 1: Street Journal article that came out last night. How is

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01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: one supposed to act if you're innocent to the charge

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01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: of drugging teenage girls and participating in gang rapes of

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Speaker 1: teenage girls. I don't know what the appropriate reaction is,

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01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,559
Speaker 1: but I would think if you're innocent, it is one

886
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: of deep anger and and deep frustration. Eighteen days ago,

887
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:20,960
Speaker 1: nobody thought any of this. A Judge Kavanaugh, well, yeah,

888
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 1: I think I think most Americans so a man who

889
01:13:24,920 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: was fighting for his family, his reputation, his life. I

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01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:32,639
Speaker 1: did not do this went to a logical explanation based

891
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 1: on a calendar. There are very few people in the

892
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: world Keith accept him and his dad and just wanted

893
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Speaker 1: to everybody to know, this is not me. You're trying

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Speaker 1: to ruin my life. I am not evil, and I

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Speaker 1: think he reacted consistent with being innocent. But let me

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Speaker 1: tell you a pivotal moment here. When the sweatneck allegation

897
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: came out, it was breaking news, allegation number three at

898
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 1: a very new and evil level, right. So I saw

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01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: it in I read it, and I said, it made

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Speaker 1: no sense to me from the very beginning that a

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01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: person would go to one party where people were drugged

902
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: and raped and go to two much less ten That

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01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 1: made no sense. I called Susan. She said, this sounds bad,

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01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, Susan, it's gonna be this way

905
01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 1: for a while. To come read it. Here's my take

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Speaker 1: on it, being in the law for most of my life, prosecutor,

907
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: defense attorney, and a judge. This doesn't have the ring

908
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 1: of truth. She said, you know that makes sense. Why

909
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,040
Speaker 1: would anybody keep going back and putting themselves in that

910
01:14:30,200 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: situation into their friends? Not tell anybody? And you gotta

911
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: remember Savanadi and she worked through the process. She took

912
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:40,040
Speaker 1: each allegation on its on. She went through all the

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Speaker 1: major decisions of Judge Kavanaugh and spent a lot of

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01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:47,080
Speaker 1: time talking to him. And this is a example every

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01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: I think this should be in every civics class in

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Speaker 1: the country. Every high school student should probably have to

917
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Speaker 1: listen to Senator collins explanation why she voted the way

918
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 1: she did and what the rule of laws all of out.

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01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,679
Speaker 1: You know, I am we have an election in thirty

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01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 1: two days to me, senator, Look you're when, senator, and

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01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: I know how close you were to Senator McCain, who

922
01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 1: recently passed away, and I I always admired him for

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01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: being a war hero, and I even said I've never

924
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: regretted not a day, not a second supporting him for

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01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: president in oh Wait, over Barack Obama. It was the

926
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,000
Speaker 1: right decision then and I stand by it today. I

927
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,080
Speaker 1: had a lot of disagreements when he came back and

928
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: voted no on the health care repeal. I was frustrated,

929
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: and I remember he said that hell with these people

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01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 1: on radio and cable TV. And you know, I understood

931
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,600
Speaker 1: Senator McCain. That's you know, he kind of had that

932
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,000
Speaker 1: side of him and I knew it really well. Um,

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Speaker 1: But he also talked in that speech to about civility.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there is not consequences for what

935
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 1: has just gone on in the last eighteen days. Political consequences.

936
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,720
Speaker 1: So here are the consequences. A party that will do

937
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,320
Speaker 1: anything to maintain powers should probably never have it. The

938
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:06,720
Speaker 1: best thing you can do to stop this in the

939
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,240
Speaker 1: future is deny them their goal of having more Senate seats,

940
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,120
Speaker 1: more House seats. They want power too bad. And what

941
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:16,080
Speaker 1: did Susan say? Listen, I I you know, I went

942
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: through the record. The allegations don't hold water in terms

943
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 1: of him being some kind of game rapist, serial sexual predator.

944
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Speaker 1: He is a very reason logical judge. I looked at

945
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,759
Speaker 1: everything they said about him. I compared it to the facts,

946
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:31,839
Speaker 1: and I'm voting Yes. Here's what I want the voters

947
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: to do. I want the voters to remember what the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party will do to get power, and that they're

949
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 1: being driven by people who would assume somebody guilty simply

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01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 1: because they don't like their judicial philosophy. Remember this, America,

951
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:54,120
Speaker 1: Do you really want these people in charge of your government? Well?

952
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:56,599
Speaker 1: I think that's a great question. You know, there's something

953
01:16:56,640 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier. I saw I've never known and Colins that, well,

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Speaker 1: I know that. Look, Look, the Republican Party is not

955
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: a monoloquic party. I'd love to I actually I found

956
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:14,120
Speaker 1: somebody today that I'd had no idea the thoroughness under

957
01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: which she makes her decisions. And I respected, I respect,

958
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 1: I really have a deep respect. I want everybody to

959
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: have their own mind. I'm not even a Republican. I'm

960
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: a Conservative for reasons that I hold passionate and dear.

961
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:30,480
Speaker 1: But you mentioned something earlier that this was a profile

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01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: and encourage for her inasmuch as we you've been outside

963
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: in the halls and the Senate and you see what's

964
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,840
Speaker 1: going on there and all the protesting, and Maine is

965
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,519
Speaker 1: not exactly a an expensive media market, and I know

966
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: they've been spending millions of dollars in Maine to try

967
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: and influence her, and groups are pledging now to to

968
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 1: vote her out of office and destroy her. And I'm like,

969
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:57,960
Speaker 1: did anybody listen to what Senator Collins just said? Did

970
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: anybody want to listen? I don't think any But he

971
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: wanted to hear what she said because it was the

972
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: single most thorough case for for how any senator or

973
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 1: congressman should make a decision. Again, a good example for

974
01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,560
Speaker 1: a Civics class to look at in terms of the

975
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,760
Speaker 1: way a senator should act. But let's talk about the

976
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,719
Speaker 1: politics for a moment. Okay. I talked a lot about

977
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: Sodomar and Kagan only because I tried to save a

978
01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:30,800
Speaker 1: system you But but well, it's it's not I don't

979
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,080
Speaker 1: think anything to make up for I. Really, it's okay

980
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: for you to disagree with me. I'm not gonna run

981
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: my life around being somebody different. I'm not gonna run

982
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 1: my life around what the hell Hannity thinks. No way,

983
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:44,439
Speaker 1: that's never happening. To be honest with you, I'm gonna

984
01:18:44,479 --> 01:18:46,960
Speaker 1: be true to me, aren't you true to you? And

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01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect anything about Susan Collins. She's a moderate,

986
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: pro choice Republican from New England that represents a party

987
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 1: UH that used to exist in New England and greater numbers.

988
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: She is a fiscal conservative. She voted for the tax bill.

989
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: She's a social moderate, and she will do things you

990
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,760
Speaker 1: won't like in the future. But whatever she does will

991
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 1: be thought out and reasoned. But here's why I appreciate

992
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: you talking about Susan Collins today. She has come as

993
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: close to anybody in my lifetime of saving the Republic

994
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: from the abyss. Because we're headed down where nobody would

995
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 1: want to be a judge in the future. If Susan

996
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 1: had legitimized this, God helped the Senate confirmation project. She

997
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: said it. It's been in a rapid decline for thirty years,

998
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: but I got to say something. Um Okay, I don't

999
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 1: think any of this would have happened. I don't think.

1000
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,679
Speaker 1: I don't appreciate that. But I'm gonna do something without

1001
01:19:46,760 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: electoral will speak, just just for a second. I'm gonna

1002
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: do something you'll never hear another politician do. Probably I'm fine. Uh,

1003
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,960
Speaker 1: you know, I'm fine. If you can help Susan. Help Susan.

1004
01:19:57,000 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: They're gonna try to destroy her now. She comes from

1005
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 1: a purple stage. President Trump lost Maine by a few points.

1006
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: He wanted a second congressional district. But main politics are

1007
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,400
Speaker 1: different than they're in South Carolina. And she was not

1008
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: about Maine herself. She was about America. She represents the

1009
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 1: best of Margret Chase Smith uh history of Maine and

1010
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: if you really don't be fool she's a moderate. She's

1011
01:20:24,040 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: not a Sean Hannity conservative. She's a moderate, but she

1012
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:30,519
Speaker 1: loves the country and she's got more guts and most

1013
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,760
Speaker 1: politicians and her little finger than most everybody I knew

1014
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,479
Speaker 1: in my business. She's not afraid. So help her, Sean,

1015
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:39,000
Speaker 1: tell you a few years to help her. They're killing

1016
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: her financial senator help her. I was so blown away

1017
01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:46,640
Speaker 1: by that speech. I would absolutely recommend that people help her.

1018
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:50,639
Speaker 1: She she did something too. She has leveled the playing

1019
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 1: field and brought a voice of sanity, well thought out,

1020
01:20:54,479 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: intellectual constitutional sanity that stood on core prince bles, a

1021
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,320
Speaker 1: presumption of innocence. It was beyond impressive to me. Let

1022
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: let me ask you this um. Tell us about mention mansions,

1023
01:21:07,280 --> 01:21:11,120
Speaker 1: yes too well, mentions A yes. I like Joe and uh,

1024
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: you know he was a yes. But Susan was the

1025
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: center of the storm. And I will say something about Flake.

1026
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,759
Speaker 1: We've had our differences. I know the presidents had their differences,

1027
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:25,640
Speaker 1: but Jeff Flake also is a yes. Jeff Flake, Uh

1028
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 1: is on the other side of a lot of things

1029
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: with Trump. But he rose to the occasion and say, listen,

1030
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 1: I want to hear more, but I'm inclined to believe

1031
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,920
Speaker 1: what I believe. I want to hear from Dr Ford.

1032
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,320
Speaker 1: He listened. He also listened to Kavanaugh and the process,

1033
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:43,519
Speaker 1: her and Susan. That Flake and Susan created is gonna

1034
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: make Kavanaugh a better nominee, more legitimate nominee. So I

1035
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 1: want to thank him too. But at the end of

1036
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: the day, this is about a person, a single person

1037
01:21:54,280 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: who is sort of the odd person out in politics,

1038
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 1: rising to the occasion and being a giant in to

1039
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 1: the extent I did my part, thank you. I wanted

1040
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 1: to stand up for a good man because I've known

1041
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: him for twenty years. I wanted to let everybody in

1042
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: the country know how despicable in my eyes he was

1043
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: being treated, and that they ad Senator, this was your

1044
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: finest moment in all the years I've known you. And yeah, yeah,

1045
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,800
Speaker 1: all uh, we'll have more. Fine, We're gonna You're gonna

1046
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: join us on Hannity tonight while a full reaction. It

1047
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: looks like the vote takes place tomorrow at five h

1048
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 1: Thank you, Senator Lindsey Graham. I wouldn't have happened without you,

1049
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:38,040
Speaker 1: in my humble opinion, and you had again, I think,

1050
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:41,360
Speaker 1: your finest moment ever. And you've had other great moments

1051
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: as well. One Shawn Tolfree telephone number all Right News

1052
01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:49,920
Speaker 1: rounded up Information Overload hour on the Sean Hannity show

1053
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: eight nine one, Shawn told free telephone number. You want

1054
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: to be a part of this extravaganza. Uh, let me

1055
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: go to some of the Democrats here, because until this

1056
01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:03,280
Speaker 1: vote is in, I'm not counting any chicken before it hatches. Yeah,

1057
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:06,560
Speaker 1: it's looking good. Yeah, but this is a national disgrace.

1058
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: And if we don't stop the politics of bludgeon and

1059
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 1: destroy by the left, and you reward them an election

1060
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 1: on election day, it's never gonna end no positive agenda

1061
01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 1: at all for the country, for the people in this country.

1062
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 1: You know, just just listen to what they say. They

1063
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,320
Speaker 1: now they got their FBI investigation. There was nothing more

1064
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,120
Speaker 1: the FBI can do than to talk to the people

1065
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,720
Speaker 1: that would have that were involved as it relates to

1066
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:38,880
Speaker 1: Professor Ford. We had her story down pat and then

1067
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,559
Speaker 1: Ms Ramira as they talked to, and then the people

1068
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 1: surrounding that case. There is zero corroboration here. Anyway, listen

1069
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 1: to your Democrats, the party of smear and slander and

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Speaker 1: guilt by accusation, Tonty, it smacks of a whitewash, even

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Speaker 1: a cover up. Well, first of all, I mean those

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Speaker 1: characterizations to me are uh ten amounts to is a

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Speaker 1: sham for perpetuating a sham on the American peoples, a sham,

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Speaker 1: five days to do the investigation, and for the FBI,

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Speaker 1: under the instructions from the White House not to talk

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Speaker 1: to that individual. Says that this investigation was a complete

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Speaker 1: cover up, a complete sham. In your view, is this

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Speaker 1: a fulsome incredible investigation? It's obviously a cover up. The Senator,

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Speaker 1: you just read the FBI background report on Kavanagh. What

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Speaker 1: are your thoughts If that's an investigation, is a bullet investigation?

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Speaker 1: All right? Then I also want to play the president

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Speaker 1: as he says, the only reason to vote Democrats if

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Speaker 1: you're tired of winning, which kind of is true based

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Speaker 1: on what I was describing earlier in the show today

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Speaker 1: and an unprecedented list of accomplishments that nobody ever discusses

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Speaker 1: because of their daily minute by minute, second by second,

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Speaker 1: weekly by week, week after week, month after month, hatred

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Speaker 1: of all things Trump. The only reason to vote Democrat

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Speaker 1: is if you are tired of winning. That's really it.

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Speaker 1: Because you're winning, You're winning a lot. There's never been

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Speaker 1: an administration that in already less than two years. But

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Speaker 1: can you believe we all did this together? We're coming

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01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: up on two years. Can you believe it? There has

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01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: never been an administration with you that's done so much

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01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:30,479
Speaker 1: in so little time two years. No administrations come close.

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Speaker 1: And we went through a lot of that success earlier

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Speaker 1: in the program, and a lot of it bears repeating.

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Speaker 1: By the way, I mean, these are camp four million

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Speaker 1: jobs created since the election, more Americans now employed than

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Speaker 1: ever recorded in our history. Unemployment. The lowis in nine

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Speaker 1: four hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs. Those are the jobs

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Speaker 1: Obama saida never coming back. By the way, things are

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01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: only gonna get better with the explosion in the energy

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Speaker 1: sector once they and get up in online in an war,

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Speaker 1: and and continue coal mining, the President saving the coal

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01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 1: mining industry in West Virginia single handedly. And once we

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Speaker 1: continue to extract more natural gas in the world would

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Speaker 1: ever need in in three hundred years. We have all

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Speaker 1: of those resources. They have fourteen states record low unemployment.

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Speaker 1: You have record low unemployment for Hispanic Americans, African Americans,

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Speaker 1: Asian Americans, youth unemployment, fifty five year low median household

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Speaker 1: income its highest record ever recorded. You know, we have

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01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 1: the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without even

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Speaker 1: a high school diploma and veterans unemployment has now reached

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01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: its lowest rate in twenty years, and four million people

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Speaker 1: off of food stamps, and I can just keep on going.

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01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: And then promises about the types of judges he'd put

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Speaker 1: on the court and gutting endless bureaucratic regulation that that

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01:26:56,360 --> 01:27:01,919
Speaker 1: literally hamstrings all businesses in America, promoting buying, and hiring America,

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Speaker 1: actively promoting and asking people to come and build their

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Speaker 1: factories and manufacturing centers here, and creating the economic conditions

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Speaker 1: and the regulatory conditions where it's possible. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: why all these manufacturing jobs are coming back. Reducing illegal immigration,

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Speaker 1: of course, defeating isis you know, of course, pulling out

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Speaker 1: of that idiotic Iranian deal, and little Rocketman's not firing

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01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: a missile over Japan every other day. I'd say that's

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01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:32,719
Speaker 1: pretty good. But with thirty two days out of the election,

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Speaker 1: a lot can happen between now and then. John McLaughlan

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Speaker 1: as a poster founder of McLaughlan and Associates. Doug shown

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Speaker 1: is with us, also a poster author political analysts for

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Speaker 1: Fox News. Thank you both for being with us. We

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01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: can see I don't know if you want to call

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01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: the Kavanaugh bounce or the Kavanaugh awakening, there's in every

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Speaker 1: single state now. Claire McCaskill is down significantly in the

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Speaker 1: latest polland Missouri Joe Donnelly is in trouble in Indiana,

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01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: Ide high Camp is down on eleven in her state

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01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,439
Speaker 1: of North Dakota. I say that Rick Scott will be

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Speaker 1: the next Senator from Florida, and then of course Martha

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01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: mc sality has been surging lately. Where do you think

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01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 1: it stands at this moment, John McLaughlin, I think you're

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01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: seeing a definitely a Kavanaugh effect. But it's really what

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01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: it is is the re engagement of the Trump voters. Uh, Seoan.

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01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:25,240
Speaker 1: You know, you, Doug and I talked about two years

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01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: ago how Trump had to bring new voters in to

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01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,679
Speaker 1: to win the election, and we did. Donald Trump ignited

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: millions of new voters who came out and voted in

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01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:37,320
Speaker 1: sixteen that didn't vote in twelve, that took a pass

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01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:40,960
Speaker 1: on Mitt Romney, and up until this time, up until

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Speaker 1: the hearing of last Thursday, Uh, those voters were staying home.

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Speaker 1: A good portion of them, a good portion of them

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Speaker 1: weren't engaged. And I think when they got to see

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Speaker 1: the the the actual hearing in the news coverage and

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01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 1: the character assassination, the ruthless politics. I think the Democrats

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01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:02,960
Speaker 1: had looked and was a really smart strategic senator and

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01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,240
Speaker 1: he's their leader, and he looked at the map and

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01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 1: he said, there's thirty five seats up. Twenty six hours,

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01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: Henneran states that that Donald Trump won, what can I

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01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 1: do to try to take back the majority? And he

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01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: probably made a calculation if we can embarrass cabin or

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Speaker 1: that the Republicans pull him, it would suppress the Trump

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01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,400
Speaker 1: voters so that a good number of those sixty three

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01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: million would stay on, because you only get ninety million

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01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 1: come out in the midterm election. So they made the hit.

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01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: The Republicans stuck firm, the President stuck with him, and

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01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: the Democrats were exposed. These voters are now outraged that

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Speaker 1: the Democrats would put such a late hit on and

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01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 1: try to sneer a good person who would remind him

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01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:47,120
Speaker 1: of their father, their their their son, their their their

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01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:51,720
Speaker 1: brother and say this was totally unfounded, uncorroborated, there's no

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Speaker 1: evidence to it, and they're trying to destroy this man

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Speaker 1: in this family. And the Republicans are coming the Republicans

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Speaker 1: and Independence has supported Trump or coming back out. You're

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01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,400
Speaker 1: seeing him in these polls that Missouri Pole and mc

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01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 1: caskell behind. Was a poll that we did for super

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01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:08,080
Speaker 1: Back Chief down eight points. Now, Uh, you're seeing this.

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01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: I'm seeing this in polls every days. It's not a

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Speaker 1: big explosion, but what it is is Trump voters coming

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01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 1: back in. And what was a huge enthusiasm gap just

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01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: a month ago, well less than a month ago, two

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01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,599
Speaker 1: weeks ago, two and a half weeks ago, um has

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01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:30,839
Speaker 1: now totally and completely evaporated, and Conservatives have been awakened.

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01:30:31,040 --> 01:30:33,800
Speaker 1: And and by the way, Doug shown the party that

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01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,240
Speaker 1: we saw protesting and the party that rushes to judgment,

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01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,599
Speaker 1: the party that doesn't believe in due process, the party

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Speaker 1: that doesn't believe in the presumption of innocence or the

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Speaker 1: need for some corroboration, and the party that defended Clinton

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Speaker 1: and defends Keith Ellison. I don't think they're looking too

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01:30:51,960 --> 01:30:54,000
Speaker 1: good here to the American people right now. And they

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Speaker 1: they're being shown to be the radical party I've been

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Speaker 1: describing for some time. I mean, I don't quite know

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Speaker 1: how to reply, but I'll you can just say, I

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Speaker 1: actually agree with your characterization, and they're handling of all

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01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 1: of this has been pretty stupid and detrimental um too.

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Speaker 1: You know, any sense that they have have any sense

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Speaker 1: of moderation in this day and age, Well, I don't

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01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: think they have any sense of moderation. But what they

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Speaker 1: do have is an ongoing lead in the House, which

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Speaker 1: I think is going to lead to a pickup of

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Speaker 1: the House. And I think from what I see looking

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Speaker 1: at the Senate races, they're all very very close within

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01:31:31,720 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 1: the margin of hearth, and I really think to get

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01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: a definitive answer will have to come back in a

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01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: week or ten days after Kavanaugh is as I think

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Speaker 1: we all expect narrowly confirmed, to see whether the effect

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Speaker 1: John and you are talking about Sean is actually going

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01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 1: to hold over time. I think it really has to

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Speaker 1: play out. And I think there's a good chance that

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Speaker 1: the protests you've seen from the Democrats and from women

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01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: like them or not will continue and will ultimately benefit

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Speaker 1: particularly in suburban congressional districts, less so Senate races the Democrats.

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01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: How's it gonna play with the voter in the rest

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Speaker 1: of the country, not in New York, d C. San

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01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 1: Francisco and Los Angeles or Illinois or Chicago. How's it

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01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 1: gonna play with the rest of America. I think it's

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01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,040
Speaker 1: gonna play very differently. I think the real challenge is

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Speaker 1: the one John raised. I think it's that's right. Will

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01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 1: this re engage the Trump voter? I think as of

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01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: today probably some evidence that that is some evidence a

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01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:39,639
Speaker 1: twenty point enthusiasm gap just evaporated in in sixteen days.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's wait a week, Sean, and we'll see where.

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Speaker 1: You don't think this leaves a bad taste in people's mouths?

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01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: What they did to this man? Do you support? Do

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Speaker 1: you support what's and that somebody? Who do you support?

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01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: Forget that? Do you what they did to this man

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Speaker 1: and how they bludgeoned this man and his family as

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01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 1: as vicious as they've been, with no due process, and

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Speaker 1: for once, you know how critical I am of Republicans.

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01:33:12,479 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: They took it with the seriousness the topic deserved. They

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Speaker 1: handled it properly. They looked into every crevice and corner,

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Speaker 1: and we still have no corroboration. Now, do we believe

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Speaker 1: in the presumption of innocence or not? Are you proud

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01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:30,640
Speaker 1: of you that? How the Democrats handled this if I

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01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 1: can voice support for you, perhaps you'll give me a

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01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 1: chance to do that. I will. I say this as

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Speaker 1: somebody who has my own judicial, legal and philosophical differences

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Speaker 1: with the judge capitals. I would not be voting for him.

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Speaker 1: But I do think, Shuan, that you are correct that

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Speaker 1: the way this process has played out depresses me as

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Speaker 1: an American first and a Democrat second. Um, I think

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01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 1: the process is destroying, uh, the independence of our judiciary,

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01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 1: destroying the presumption of innocence, and basically what is destroying

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Speaker 1: what makes our country great. So we may disagree philosophically,

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01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:17,599
Speaker 1: but I'd like to think we stand for the same

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01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 1: enduring values. Listen Lindsey Graham, who in many ways showed

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Speaker 1: such a profile encourage in this um and even and

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Speaker 1: I think the deliberate seriousness of Susan Collins. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party is made up of very in factions

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01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 1: that I don't see these factions really existing in the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. John. I mean, you've got the extreme left,

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01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: and then you've got the super duper extreme left, and

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01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: there's no room for a Scoop Jackson. They even threw

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Speaker 1: Joe Lieberman, of all people, out of the party. How

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01:34:48,880 --> 01:34:51,680
Speaker 1: do you throw it Joe Lieberman out of your party? Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's insanity to me. Oh absolutely, And I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what. Dog Dog makes the point. You have

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Speaker 1: over four weeks to go, and that's a lifetime in politics.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, remember the Democrats put the late

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Speaker 1: hit on Bush and that Bush part of me. They

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01:35:07,800 --> 01:35:10,040
Speaker 1: did it to Bush with the drunk driving, but they

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Speaker 1: did it with Donald Trump, with the tables that women

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01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: and people people went right through and realized it was

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Speaker 1: a choice between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, and they

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01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,640
Speaker 1: voted for Donald Trump. And and there's voters in the

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Speaker 1: heartland right now that are engaged. We have to keep

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Speaker 1: them engaged over the next four weeks because when we

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Speaker 1: win again and Kavanaugh gets confirmed, they can think, oh,

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01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:34,280
Speaker 1: things are fine now. I don't think so. I think everybody.

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Speaker 1: I think that everybody understands there's a lot at steak here.

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Speaker 1: I will stay right there. Well, well, we'll continue more

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Speaker 1: with John McLaughlin and and Doug shown on Shaw on

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Speaker 1: our number all right, as we wrap up with our pollsters.

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Speaker 1: We'll be checking in with them off and now thirty

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Speaker 1: two days out of election day. And I think the

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Speaker 1: most important midterms in our lifetime with John McLaughlin, Doug

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Speaker 1: Owner with us. All Right, Doug predictions, what's gonna happen?

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Speaker 1: I think Kavanaugh is going to be confirmed. You will

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Speaker 1: have the Republicans holding the Senate narrowly and the Democrats

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Speaker 1: winning the House five plus thirty plus thirty five seats. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's a huge prediction for the Democrats. Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any scenario that I could discount. Thirty two

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Speaker 1: days out of this election. I think anything can happen,

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Speaker 1: and I hope the American people see what they're electing

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Speaker 1: in Nancy Pelosi, Maxie Waters, and Chuck Schumer. That's my

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Speaker 1: my biggest hope. John McLaughlin, I think you're right, and uh,

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Speaker 1: in terms of it's it's just four weeks out over

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Speaker 1: four weeks ago, and a lot can happen. But I

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Speaker 1: will tell you that the key thing is Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: is putting the Republicans on his shoulders and bringing them

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Speaker 1: across the finish line in that he's bringing his votes

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Speaker 1: to bear, but his his voters are coming back out.

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Speaker 1: But the key thing is it's two real opponents right

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Speaker 1: now are Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. He needs to

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Speaker 1: take them on. They're gonna be a nightmare if they

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Speaker 1: get control of either house, uh for next year. So

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Speaker 1: what we've got to do is Nancy Pelosi in our

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Speaker 1: last national survey had unfavorable rating. I mean, would be

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Speaker 1: a landslide for the Republicans, and they could and they

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Speaker 1: could hold the House. So right now we're headed to

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Speaker 1: game seats in the Senate. But it's too early on

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Speaker 1: the House, and and prior to Kavanaugh it looked like

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Speaker 1: we're gonna lose the House. But with that kind of

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Speaker 1: a negative on Pelosi, for her to be the leader

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Speaker 1: to oppose Donald Trump every day for the next two

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Speaker 1: years through his reelection, he needs to take her on

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Speaker 1: every day about them won't wanting to raise taxes on

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Speaker 1: the economy, have open borders, having having back to the

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Speaker 1: elites where the swamp runs the country again. So if

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Speaker 1: he does that over the next four weeks, the Republicans

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Speaker 1: could hold the House and they'll definitely pick up Senate seats.

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Speaker 1: All right, thank you both, John McLaughlin and Doug Show

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Speaker 1: one for one Shawn Tolfrey telephone number. We'll continue. We'll

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Speaker 1: have our Florida Julne Zach Brown concert series when we

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Speaker 1: get back and will continue with Jesse Lee Peterson, Reverend

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Speaker 1: c O'Brien and much more. As this Friday edition of

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Speaker 1: The Sean Hannity Show moves along, I hope everybody remembers

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Speaker 1: the anger that they've been feeling this week. Listen. Griff

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Speaker 1: Jenkins last night for Hannity on the TV show actually

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Speaker 1: went out in the middle of these mob protesters asking

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Speaker 1: them a simple question. Do you believe in the presumption

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Speaker 1: of innocence? Listen? Do you feel that he was afforded

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Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence? This is a job interview, and

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Speaker 1: the question is about the evidence that's presented and the

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Speaker 1: credibility of her claim. Do you believe that just Kevinah

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Speaker 1: who had presumption of innocence, got a fair shake in

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Speaker 1: the hearing? No. I think that he didn't give himself

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Speaker 1: a fair share because he lied the entire time. Do

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Speaker 1: you believe Judge Kevina was given the presumption of innocence?

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Speaker 1: Is this a part of law? Why do you believe

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Speaker 1: Judge Kevina shouldn't be confirmed? I feel like he's by

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Speaker 1: multiple times. He feels he acted crazy. Clearly, there has

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Speaker 1: been enough allegations swirling around that we know that this

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Speaker 1: job application needs to be denied. Judge wasn't given his

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Speaker 1: fair presumption of energy. Um this. I think that Judge

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Speaker 1: Kavanaugh and no investigation, refused the investigation he did not

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Speaker 1: want it. That is not the behavior of someone who

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Speaker 1: understands like that as a man should. It is in

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Speaker 1: his benefit and the country's benefits to say, let's discover

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Speaker 1: the true Do you believe that he was given a

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Speaker 1: fair chance in his confirmation? Fair chance? This man is

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Speaker 1: sitting amongst friends of his. The public is the people

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01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: who should be making decisions about what they need and

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01:39:48,040 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 1: what they deserve, not the rich white man who doesn't

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Speaker 1: give it about us because there are allegations of sexual

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Speaker 1: assault against him that quite likely will are true. I

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Speaker 1: believe they are true, but how hasn't been proven yet

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Speaker 1: one way or the other. This is a job interview.

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Speaker 1: There's no presumption of innocence in a job interview. And

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Speaker 1: in your mind, Judge Kavanaugh failed up. Absolutely, he failed

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Speaker 1: the job in This is nothing short of a desperate

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Speaker 1: grab by the old white male rich patriarchy. In my view,

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Speaker 1: Judge Kavanaugh made it pretty clear that he does not

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Speaker 1: have the judicial temperament he believes the Supreme Court is

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01:40:23,360 --> 01:40:26,759
Speaker 1: just one more political football. That's not what the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court is about it. And I think in that hearing,

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Speaker 1: Judge Kavanag disqualified himself. That is thirty two days your

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Speaker 1: thirty two days away. That is the base of the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party. That is that is who people like Nancy

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Speaker 1: Pelosi are appealing to. Chuck Schumer's appealing to Maxie Waters

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01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,920
Speaker 1: is appealing to, and of course Michael Lavanati, the new

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Speaker 1: face of the Democratic Party. What has happened to the

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Speaker 1: old Democratic Party? Party that once believed in tax cut,

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Speaker 1: stood up with the working men and women in this country,

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Speaker 1: didn't believe in socialism, believed in civil liberal these and

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Speaker 1: the presumption of innocence and due process. Where where did

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Speaker 1: they go? All right? Joining us now, the Reverend Jesse

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Speaker 1: Lee Peterson, founder of Rebuilding the Man by rebuilding I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: rebuilding the family by rebuilding the man, author of the

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01:41:13,040 --> 01:41:16,960
Speaker 1: antidote Healing America from the poison of hate, blame and victimhood.

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Speaker 1: Reverend C. L. Bryant is also with us the Race

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Speaker 1: for Freedom is also a senior fellow of Freedom Works.

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Speaker 1: Welcome both of you back to the program and Jesse.

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Speaker 1: I guess you're heading out on the road and you've

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Speaker 1: got a big panel. You're gonna be a part of

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Speaker 1: where's that on? How you doing? Sean at seven pm

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Speaker 1: um my not profit organization, Bond the Brotherhood Organization of

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Speaker 1: a New Jesse gonna be holder town hall form and

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Speaker 1: panel on the mid term election and so um. For

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Speaker 1: more information on that, people can go to Jesse Lee

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Speaker 1: Peterson dot com Jessie Lee Peterson dot com. And we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be talking with our Democrats. Every public is independence

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Speaker 1: about this upcompany lesson because a lot of people are

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01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 1: really really upset at what happened with Judge Kaman. Are

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Speaker 1: even people who at one time I thought that they

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Speaker 1: were going to be voted for the Democrats. They started

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Speaker 1: to rethink their position. And I have to chell you, Sean.

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Speaker 1: I grew up on a plantation down in Alabama. I

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Speaker 1: grew up boring there. I grew up under the Gym

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Speaker 1: Crow laws. I remember white size only when I voted

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Speaker 1: at h I voted for the Democratic Party. I was

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Speaker 1: fear grown up on that plantation, living under Jim Crow laws,

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Speaker 1: and I was as a Democrat. Democrats are right for

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Speaker 1: you to have free thoughts. They don't like for you

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Speaker 1: to take care of yourself. They lied to you about

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party and it especially the straight white, conservative

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Speaker 1: Christian male. They're always calling them racist, and they use

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Speaker 1: those words to brain watch you in order to enslave you.

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Speaker 1: And the beauty about if there is a a beauty

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Speaker 1: in this about what's happening with the judge and the

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01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:58,240
Speaker 1: hatred and the anger and the acquisitions, false half and

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Speaker 1: gains without proof that we have seen. Over the last

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks or a month or so, even

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01:43:03,080 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 1: longer than that, even a lot of black people have

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01:43:05,800 --> 01:43:09,360
Speaker 1: started to think about the Democratic Party and they're starting

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01:43:09,439 --> 01:43:13,040
Speaker 1: to realize, especially to Christmas, they're starting to realize maybe

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01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:16,240
Speaker 1: they are involved with the wrong party and that the party,

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, is not like the party that they

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Speaker 1: joined many many years ago. And I say a lot

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Speaker 1: of folks are being afecion by this. You know, cel Brian,

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Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, weren't you part of the Double

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Speaker 1: a CP for a number of years, Sean, I'm a

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Speaker 1: two term president of the Double ATP in Garland, Texas.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you may not know it, I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: a life member. I became a life member. I was

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Speaker 1: at an event in Atlanta, and it just so happens,

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Speaker 1: I said, but please, the next time, take politics out

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Speaker 1: of a man like Clarence Thomas is advancing and is

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Speaker 1: succeeding at the highest level. Please please support him. I

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Speaker 1: said that when I when I paid, when I paid

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Speaker 1: my membership, I have the card here somewhere, absolutely right, Sean.

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Speaker 1: And what we're seeing now are the fake activists who

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Speaker 1: are hitting the street. I remember when I was president,

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Speaker 1: uh there, and I'm gonna disclose this that there were

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Speaker 1: times when we would load up ten busses full of

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Speaker 1: activists by simply giving them ten dollars and a tune

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01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:15,800
Speaker 1: of fish sandwich and a drink to get on the

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Speaker 1: bus to go protest something that they had no clue

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Speaker 1: what it was that they were going to protest. And

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Speaker 1: that's what you're seeing on the streets now, and that

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Speaker 1: is fake. It is something that will not stop. Freedom Works,

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Speaker 1: the organization that I am with, we have grassroots activists

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01:44:33,880 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 1: who are in the Capitol right now, who are checking

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Speaker 1: on their congressmen and their senators to make certain that

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Speaker 1: they ride heard on this particular vote. We want Kavanaugh

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01:44:45,120 --> 01:44:47,840
Speaker 1: to come through last week Freedom Works. We had two

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Speaker 1: thousand people on the Capitol grounds pushing through not only

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Speaker 1: Jim Jordan's who I hope can be the next UH

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Speaker 1: Speaker of the House, but also we wanted those elected

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01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: officials who should be responsible to the American people for

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01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:06,080
Speaker 1: the offices they hold, to make sure that they go

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01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: and do the job that we sent them to do.

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Speaker 1: It's a long way from when I was President of

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Speaker 1: the n double a c P Twenty seven years ago

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Speaker 1: to where I am now. And that plantation that Reverend

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01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:20,719
Speaker 1: Peterson was talking about, that Jesse Lee was talking about.

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01:45:20,960 --> 01:45:24,120
Speaker 1: By the way, Jesse Lee is in my movie Runaway Slave. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Lee, why am I not in your movie? What's

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01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,519
Speaker 1: up with that? You and I have to make the

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01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,840
Speaker 1: next film together, Sean, we have to make the next No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm just wonder why you picked Jesse and you didn't

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01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,719
Speaker 1: pick your good old friend, Sean Hannity. You're my good buddy.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come on the show real soon. But that

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01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:43,120
Speaker 1: plantation was real. I grew up in Louisiana during that

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01:45:43,360 --> 01:45:46,760
Speaker 1: same Jim Crow era. It's very real, but many of

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01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: us have run away from it, and we encourage many

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01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: more at this point in time in America, and the

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01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 1: President is giving us all the cover that's necessary to

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01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:00,679
Speaker 1: run away from that type of enslavement that this nation

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Speaker 1: had fallen up under. You know. To add to that,

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Speaker 1: the beauty of what President Trump has john is that

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Speaker 1: because he lacked fear, he's put the country first. He's

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01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,519
Speaker 1: not afraid to really deal with these people. He's not

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Speaker 1: afraid to use social media to put the truth out there.

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Speaker 1: And this president is encouraging a lot of men and women,

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Speaker 1: especially those are good, to stand up and speak up,

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Speaker 1: fight for their country, fight for what is right. And

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Speaker 1: when they saw this attack on Judge Kevinnair, his wife,

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Speaker 1: his daughters. While they're saying that they care about women,

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Speaker 1: they care about children, where's the love and compassion for

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Speaker 1: the judge of his wife? His children are going to

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Speaker 1: have to deal with these alligations, This whole thing has

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Speaker 1: to now. Look, we've got to get through the vote tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: and I'm cautiously optimistic that Judge Kavanaugh gets to be

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Speaker 1: on the court that he deserves to be on. But

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Speaker 1: if we don't deal with the these tactics, the willingness

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Speaker 1: to tear down plunge and destroy men, families, kids are

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01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 1: obviously impacted by it. If if they can't even have

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Speaker 1: the most simplest of civility on these issues, you know,

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01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:11,760
Speaker 1: the American people need to see it, know it, get it,

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Speaker 1: understand it, embrace what they would be voting for. It's horrible,

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Speaker 1: you know, destroying people. It's horrible. How many more people

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Speaker 1: have to go through all Clarence Thomas, Judge Kavanaugh, Robert Borke,

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01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:25,760
Speaker 1: how many Republicans are falsely accused of being racist and

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01:47:25,840 --> 01:47:29,120
Speaker 1: wanting to kill their grandmothers. It's ridiculous at this point,

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01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,640
Speaker 1: and they do it with literally with the immunity that

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01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,680
Speaker 1: it's total immunity for them. There are no repercussions for

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Speaker 1: this conduct anyway. Reverend Jesse Lee Peterson, thank you. Reverend

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Speaker 1: cl Brian, thank you, and uh we wish you both

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Speaker 1: the best. As the countdown now continues, will know almost

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Speaker 1: this time tomorrow the Judge Kavanaugh get on the court

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Speaker 1: looking a lot better than it did earlier this week.