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Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I almost famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with our radio. It's time for the almost famous podcast.

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Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening. I don't know when

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Speaker 1: you're listening to this, but whenever you are, we hope

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Speaker 1: you're doing well. It's week three of The Bachelor's Zack's season.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot to talk about today, not necessarily in

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Speaker 1: we're three weeks in. I want to talk about my

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Speaker 1: thoughts so far on this season. Your thoughts so far

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Speaker 1: on this season. Um, there's a lot of things going

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Speaker 1: on on the show. But are we loving it or

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Speaker 1: hating it? It's gonna be a good episode for that.

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Speaker 1: I have a little scratchy voice. I got home last night,

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Speaker 1: very very late. I was gone for three straight weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'm back in Denver, Colorado now and it feels good. Congratulations.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. I hope you take time

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Speaker 1: to just breathe in that fresh mountain air. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be important. You know. I was in California for a bit.

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Speaker 1: I missed all the pictures and the fun times that

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Speaker 1: you guys had. I was there, uh pretty much before

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Speaker 1: uh everybody arrived, including yourself. I got to see you

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Speaker 1: for a few minutes, which was amazing and awesome, truly

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Speaker 1: a few minutes, it was like and that sucked. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was not fun for me to see you, who

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Speaker 1: they'd be like, sorry, I'm out. I was in Honduras,

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Speaker 1: which was an incredible trip and in fact, Ashley, I

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Speaker 1: only mentioned it on this podcast because I talked about

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Speaker 1: Honduras quite often and you know, UM, it is what

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Speaker 1: it is. It's a huge part of my life. But UH,

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Speaker 1: humanityan hope team, so the nonprofit and the for profit

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Speaker 1: with us on this trip. It was an awesome trip.

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Speaker 1: But there was also some almost famous fans who came

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Speaker 1: down UH and that's always really fun for me because

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Speaker 1: they take the time to listen to us weekly. So UH,

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Speaker 1: this almost famous community UH continues to UM to show

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Speaker 1: up to show out. I enjoy it. I know you

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Speaker 1: do too, UM. But yes, I got home late last night,

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Speaker 1: Ben share one story from Honduras that we'll all find

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Speaker 1: interesting or enlightening. There was many this trip, honestly, so

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Speaker 1: UM I would say, we've talked about it before on

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Speaker 1: Humanity Hope United. Her name is Hannah, Hannah Turgent, and

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Speaker 1: Hannah was just an incredible human And I could go

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Speaker 1: on and on about who Hannah was. And Hannah was

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Speaker 1: twenty seven years old. She was living UM in a

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Speaker 1: that's ever existed, that women all over America could be like,

428
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, if I just saw that shower scene

429
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 1: with Ben, my life would be made. Nobody thought that,

430
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 1: and that's okay with me, Like, I'm really good with that,

431
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: and that's why you don't see it, and so know

432
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: who you are as a lead. I think the show

433
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 1: needs to know who Zach is as a lead. Just

434
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 1: throw him in a suit, like you know, let him

435
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: sit down and have those really intentional conversations and be there,

436
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, give it as all. That's all we need

437
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,880
Speaker 1: from Zach. We don't need much more. Yeah, all right,

438
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,880
Speaker 1: well let's get into the dates. Let's see. So there's

439
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: gonna be one big group date and then there's two

440
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: one on ones. Katie goes on the first one on

441
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: one and they basically go to night at the Museum,

442
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 1: which is cool for her. It's sad because she says

443
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: it's the most romantic moment she's ever had of her life.

444
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: She said she's never really had a romantic moment of

445
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 1: all of her life. But she seems to genuinely like Zach.

446
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: So that's nice. It is nice. It is good to

447
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: see this. She looks beautiful. Um, the women do support her. Well.

448
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: It looks like when she comes down, like they fire

449
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: her up, which is cool to see. You don't, I mean,

450
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 1: there's you know that option or you just hate on

451
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: every person that ever goes on a date, and that's

452
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: gonna make a miserable experience. So it's cool to see that.

453
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: It's really exciting to see these women support each other. Um,

454
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I thought this would be a I think this would

455
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: be a fun date. Right, you get night at the museum.

456
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: You get a museum just to the two of you.

457
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: I like museums. I like to read the plaques. I

458
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 1: don't think the show probably would have given the time

459
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: for them to just sit there and read the plaques,

460
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 1: so that would have been frustrating. Um. But it's a

461
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 1: sweet date. And she does seem excited. She seems very

462
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: interested in Zach and I and beyond all else, I

463
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: am glad that we see somebody excited about the lead here.

464
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 1: It feels good to watch very well. Put Now, the

465
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 1: twist in this is that she asked her to spend

466
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: the night to together. Now, it's not a whole fantasy

467
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: suite she bang. He doesn't say that we're going big. Um.

468
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: They don't say anything along the lines of like we're

469
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: going to have private time, there's gonna be no cameras,

470
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: it's going to know each other. But it's like not

471
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: like alluding to anything sexy. It's a tent and there's

472
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: some satin or silk pajamas and there are two twin beds,

473
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 1: so they're obviously trying to allude to the fact that, like,

474
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,719
Speaker 1: it's a nice overnight, but it's not supposed to be

475
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 1: a share of the bed type overnight, and we even

476
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: see Zach be like, let's push this bed a little

477
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: bit closer. But it's not like he completely conjoins the beds,

478
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, we can get a little bit cozier here.

479
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: And I think everybody knows that it was innocent and

480
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: they probably did just talk all night. Another thing worth

481
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 1: mentioning is we just didn't need to see Zak and

482
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,520
Speaker 1: satin pajamas because the girls talk at the end of

483
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 1: the episode as to what gives them an ick, and

484
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: I gotta say, not just sack, but any man that

485
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: you're going on a first overnight with wearing satin pajamas

486
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: is probably certainly going to give you an ick. Yeah. Now,

487
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,400
Speaker 1: I I held out on my satin onesie for Jess

488
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,239
Speaker 1: until we got married. I was like, you're already in it,

489
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: like this is I'm sorry, but this thing is coming

490
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: on now. And I waited this long for it because, yes,

491
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 1: it would be interesting. I people were critical of the

492
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: fact that they're spending the night together on their first date.

493
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Yeah, this is an expedited experience. I

494
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: don't think I necessarily had as big of an issue

495
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 1: with them staying together, because I do think that's a

496
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: good opportunity to get to know each other more. Um,

497
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: it was two different twin beds, and so the at

498
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 1: least they're trying to tell us that nothing happened when

499
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 1: the tin closed. Who knows. I mean, that's not my business.

500
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 1: Uh I am interested. What I thought of when I

501
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 1: saw this was that I expected Zack to be more

502
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: hesitant physically. Uh. I thought he would be kind of

503
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: more of on the lines of the batchelor that took

504
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: his time, you know, getting to know these women before

505
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: any physical uh ness came out. Well, we're seeing so

506
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: far with three episodes in this season, is Zach might

507
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: be the most physically forward like asking for time and

508
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 1: kisses and and hu and like romance then we've ever

509
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: seen you have a ben. It goes back to what

510
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: you were saying in the first episode. It's definitely because

511
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't know what to say. I hope not. I

512
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 1: hope not. But that's that's one of my biggest frustrations

513
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: when they pick a lead who doesn't know how to

514
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: carry a conversation or to ask questions that are intriguing

515
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: and interesting, and that gets the heart of the people involved.

516
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: But yes, that is a concern always is uh? And

517
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 1: right now, the physical connections that he's trying to make

518
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: seem to outweigh the connections you know, emotionally and spiritually

519
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: and intimately when it comes to how he's getting to

520
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: know these women. M hm. And not as if it's

521
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: not obvious, we know that this was all planned because

522
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: there was no date time portion of the date, so

523
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: obviously to extend the date, they were going to make

524
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: it overnight. And the reason that they would make it

525
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: overnight is to ruffle the feathers of all the ladies.

526
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: Another just assumption on my part. I feel evil, But

527
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 1: maybe these girls aren't necessarily as riled up and obsessed

528
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: with the bachelor as they normally are right off the bat,

529
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: And what better way than to get them feeling a

530
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: little possessive than to have a girl have an overnight

531
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, I think there's a few. I think

532
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: there's a few that we could point out that would say, hey,

533
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, we feel like they're really into Zach and

534
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: they really want to make this work. And is it

535
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: a consensus, Like is the whole room kind of feeling like, hey,

536
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: this could be my man now? I don't think so,

537
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: And I think I would say this with um referencing

538
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: the people that went home on week three, that makes

539
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: sense ruffer, like did any of them see that seem

540
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: out that upset? Like, did any of them seem like,

541
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,080
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, their husband just got rid from their hands?

542
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Christina a little bit, but I think Christina will definitely

543
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: get on that airplane and be like, I can't get

544
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: someone else. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I don't know if

545
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, I think towards the end we're

546
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna see the people hopefully stay that are really into Zack,

547
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: But I don't know if right now that's a consensus

548
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: in the house. I think they're having a lot of

549
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: fun together and they're interested in in the Bachelor. I

550
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: don't know if they're like running full force that this

551
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: could be their man. So strange how many times Okay,

552
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: there's only two references, but still it's a lot of

553
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: the girls in the house being like best friends after

554
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: being together for seven days. It's okay, we're being a

555
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: little dramatic right now. But yeah, it happens every season, though,

556
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: doesn't it. I mean, isn't that every season where like

557
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: where everybody in the house is so close. There's been

558
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: our best friends know each other for seven days. Yeah,

559
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: that that that will go away. There's gonna be some

560
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: episode where the whole all the girls just like go.

561
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: You know, it just happens in that house. Like there's

562
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna be drama that exists. There has to be drama

563
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: that exists, Amongs amongst the contestants. Actually, we're gonna have

564
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: no drama this season. Also, your best friend at home

565
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: is offended that you're saying this, Okay, let's go to

566
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: the group date. Ben, it's a football date again. And

567
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: I'm telling you how how I was stopped at right

568
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: tracks when I saw that we were doing another fad?

569
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: Why do we? And then I realized it was a trend.

570
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: So they're trying to purposely do it. They love the

571
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 1: football day, and they're going to continue to do it.

572
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: Apparently we've done it for like five straight seasons now.

573
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: There are people in charge of the show who are

574
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: very big football fans, So I think that's one thing.

575
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: I think the second is Zack did play college football

576
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,239
Speaker 1: and so that's another thing that he can relate with.

577
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: Right here, Um, I don't know. I don't like these

578
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: dates I think getting people just to hit each other

579
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: when they're not used to hitting each other, and sprinting

580
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: up and down when they've been drinking and sitting in

581
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: a mansion for now seven days feels very odd. And

582
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of romance comes from this, um,

583
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: but I think beyond anything else, I did think they

584
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 1: show did a good job with the names. I mean,

585
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: ball zacks and Zack is is Jared's fantasy name. It's

586
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: my ball. Zach hurts, my ball, Zach hurts, you know,

587
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: like Zach hurts. Yeah, I think it's uh. I think

588
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: that was good. I mean, that made me laugh at

589
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,240
Speaker 1: that got me involved, But then I just kind of

590
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: two now. I mean, if you ask me what happened

591
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: or um, like who won, I'm not there. I've lost myself. Well,

592
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 1: I really I tried not to have my phone on

593
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: me during this entire episode. I did crack once we

594
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: got to the second one on one, but I was

595
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: really trying to watch just completely straight to finish, and

596
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I was I was just shocked at how long we

597
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: watched these girls play football A long time again, I

598
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: was like, do we not have other content to be showing?

599
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: Like we could have made this maybe a d montage.

600
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 1: I just can't envision actually any fan or viewer of

601
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: this show at any level sitting there going, oh my gosh,

602
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: I can't wait to see who wins. Like I want

603
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: to see these women play football, I mean as a

604
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: day and as like a fun experience for them to

605
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: talk about. Great, but we did not need it as

606
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 1: long as we did because viewership at home had there

607
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 1: might be in somebody, please tell me if you were

608
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: at home really rude for one team or the other.

609
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's happening. I cannot see it

610
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: happening for me. I'm like, oh football, I could be

611
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 1: watching Joe Burrow thirst Traps right now. Let's scrab my phone. Okay,

612
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: but we um, we do have this football game. It's

613
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: very long. We we are sad for them because the

614
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: other girls from other seasons got to go and play

615
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: at professional stadiums and then they're at a high school

616
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: football field. Bummer budget cuts as I know. Okay, Okay,

617
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: this is like and I are so bad. No, I mean,

618
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: I think it's very true. I don't think any I

619
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,719
Speaker 1: don't think anything I'm saying is not right. I mean,

620
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: I think they could probably still get in a sofi

621
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: uh and still do that whole thing. I don't think

622
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: that's a problem for them. But it is weird to

623
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: see him at a high school stadium. But at the

624
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: same time, it is relating a little bit more convenient.

625
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: You know that was right down the street. Know that's

626
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: a UM, that's like a Calabasas. Yeah, it's right there. Yeah,

627
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: and Zach played college football, UM for a great university,

628
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: but it's a smaller school, and so maybe this is

629
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: a little bit relating to his football experience that he

630
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: never got to play in the big arena you get

631
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: to play. He grinded it out on the high school

632
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: in college. They're making it relatable for Zach. Alright, the

633
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: only girl that I really remember playing football is Christina,

634
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: and Christina is a huge part of this episode. At

635
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: the nighttime portion of this group date, you can tell

636
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: she is She has drunk off or asked people. She

637
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: is a tipsy queen. She kind of keeps relating to

638
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: like her last week date, which is her one on

639
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: one with Zach, and tells all the girls like, oh yeah,

640
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: well you would if you knew this, you would know

641
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: this about Zach. You would feel this more of a

642
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: connection if you have been on a one on one

643
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: like I did. And the girls are getting really annoyed

644
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: by this behavior. It's annoying. Is it evil? No, It's

645
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: like this girl is just like being dumb. She's drunk

646
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: and reminiscing on her date from last week. But the

647
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: girls are like, you know, they're just they're just there.

648
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: They have to find something to be annoyed at, and

649
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: that's going to be her. Meanwhile, Bailey is having a

650
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: convo with Zach where she's like, I feel like the

651
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: spark that we may have had, like the first time

652
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: we met, is gone, and then she says she's looking

653
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: for reassurance in that moment. But then Zack comes back

654
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: and he's like, you know what, me too, I don't

655
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: really feel the spark anymore. And instead of being like,

656
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: let's see if we can get to know each other

657
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: and reinvigorate it, he they say, let's resume the conversation

658
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: a little bit because they're interrupted, and then they do

659
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: have another moment to talk about it, and he basically

660
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: just eliminates her right then she's very shocked. The girls

661
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,720
Speaker 1: are shocked. Ben, you are you know her? Uh, Jess's

662
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: friends with her from Tennessee. I got to know what

663
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: you heard from her when you got back. When she

664
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: got back, well, I mean I think it was time.

665
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: I do. I don't really even like week three, like

666
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: you can't take her a little bit further. Well, I

667
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: think he should have. Bailey is great. Yeah, like I

668
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: think I think he should have. I think he should

669
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: have pursued whatever could have been there. I mean, there's

670
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: no doubt that she should be there for five, six,

671
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,920
Speaker 1: seven weeks. Um maybe didn't make need to make it

672
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: the hometowns because if the sparks not there, it's not

673
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: going to happen. I'm oh, yeah, But if I was Zach,

674
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: I would have said, hey, this is an awesome person,

675
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: and she's beautiful and she's kind, and the girls like her,

676
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: and she seems to be getting along here pretty well. Yeah,

677
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: maybe that spark at the beginning is gone, but we're

678
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: you know, it's been a week and there's a lot

679
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: going on, and maybe I just keep her around to

680
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: see something can come back. I I'm confused at what

681
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: Zack's decision making was here, but I also have a

682
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,800
Speaker 1: little bit of personal interest in it, and so I

683
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: was like Okay, Zack. I mean, that's cool. If you

684
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 1: want to throw somebody, you know, she'll be better off.

685
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: She'll go to paradise, she'll be fine. I hope, I

686
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: hope she does. Christina says something about her elimination in

687
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: front of the girls. She guess, Wow, she was my roommate,

688
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: but that was inevitable, and now everybody's really annoyed her.

689
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: But I kindn't think it's funny. She's like, I'm being honest.

690
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm just being honest, and these girls don't like it,

691
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: and it's kind of true. Sure, yeah, you know, it's

692
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,439
Speaker 1: like sort I mean, yes, she has no filter. Most

693
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: of us wouldn't say anything like that. But it goes

694
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,840
Speaker 1: back to how I had a rant on my season

695
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, why are you guys so

696
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,439
Speaker 1: sad about other people thing? And why are you so

697
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: sad about Why are you so happy and excited when

698
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: other people get a date? That's so fake of you

699
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: or not actually that good of people. Sure, but I

700
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: remember when Jared got his first date. I was pumped

701
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: form I loved Jared. I wanted to see him first.

702
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah I did, exactly I did. But if you hadn't,

703
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't have, because after you have your date,

704
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 1: then you feel like you can just like rest easy

705
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,359
Speaker 1: and kind of be happy for the people for a while. Yeah,

706
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: I mean I was excited that he was getting in

707
00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: saying Christina already had her date because she should be

708
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 1: in this. Yeah, she should be a little bit more

709
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: generous right now. Okay, fine, you're probably right. So I

710
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: note Christina was uh the most followed person on the

711
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: show going into this episode, even above Zach by a lot.

712
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: Um so a fan favorite you could say, or some

713
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: of the fans knew the most. I just knew the

714
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: most of or we're following the most. Um did get

715
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: eliminated in week three. That's a little surprising. She's a

716
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: content creator, though she like has been trying to build

717
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: this following for a while. She has like a hundred

718
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: thousand on TikTok. She has more than Jared and I

719
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,879
Speaker 1: have on TikTok. That means like she really has been

720
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: trying to grind at it. She works hard at it. Uh.

721
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: So far, what we've seen in a trend with Zach

722
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: wanted to continue as a lead is when women confront

723
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 1: him about feeling a distance or a disconnect. Um he

724
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: doesn't and hasn't responded with yes, let's try to make

725
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: it work. And he must be giving very clear signals

726
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: to these women that hey, I'm not interested in you.

727
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 1: Maybe we're not seeing it on the show, but they

728
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: obviously are feeling enough to say, uh, there's something happening here, Zach.

729
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: You're not interested in me? Is it worth me being around?

730
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 1: And that's interesting just to watch the season plays out.

731
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: Is how clear is he on who he likes and

732
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: who he doesn't like? Oh, it's obvious for us watching,

733
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: you know, like we all knew that he was very

734
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 1: disinterested in Bailey for some reason. He doesn't even look around.

735
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: He wasn't even looking her in the eye that last week.

736
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,240
Speaker 1: It's like his body language is very off, like he's

737
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: just not a good actor, or he doesn't intend. Well,

738
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I guess he just you know, he's there for the

739
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: right reasons. He doesn't intend to act at all. I

740
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: gotta finish up with the group date though, because when

741
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: he gives charity the group date Rose, Christina keeps saying

742
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: she's confused, did I do something wrong? And I don't

743
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: want to keep in sitting when the girls drunk? But

744
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: this is some drunk dialogue and then she says, I

745
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: just wish it was me, duh, And it's like, yeah,

746
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: of course you wish it was you. She's just she's

747
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: just drunking girl, and she's saying the things that she's

748
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: thinking in her head out loud. The girls are like,

749
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: you know, you are always making things about you and

750
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: I can see that as very annoying, and she she does.

751
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: She just has no filter. She just is saying what

752
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: basically everybody there is thinking, and that's somehow annoying. I'm

753
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: not trying to defend her, but I think we all think, like,

754
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: not as nice thoughts while you're like, get it, while

755
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: you're not receiving roses, then we like to put out

756
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: there and having no filter. Being honest, some would call

757
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: it um is one thing. Being wise, and how you're

758
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: affecting the people around you as a whole another thing.

759
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: And so the issue is with is what I'm saying

760
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: helping or hurting? And why am I saying what I'm saying?

761
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: Is it making people feel better or worse? Yes, we

762
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 1: all have critical thoughts, and but like you sift through

763
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: that to speak wisdom in the right situation, and if

764
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: the times appropriate, and you have the opportunity or ability

765
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: to be honest. Great, but just doing it all the

766
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: time ends up just hurting everybody around you. So well,

767
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: put Betton, thank you for for saying that exactly. Like,

768
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: there's a reason that we don't say everything that we think,

769
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: and that is because we try to be kind of people,

770
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: slow to speak, quick to listen. There you go, such

771
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: a good one, Such a good one. Meanwhile, back at

772
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: the house, the final dick card of the week arrives

773
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: for Ali and how does it get to her? In

774
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: the in the form of a wedding dress box, in

775
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: which I rolled my eye so back. I rolled my

776
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: eyes so far back in my head. There's another wedding dress.

777
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 1: We're doing another wedding dress theme. Come on, the fans

778
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: love it, Ashley. I mean it's a fan favor. You

779
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: get a bunch of people in a wedding dress and

780
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 1: his suit and a talks and everybody goes, oh, this

781
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: is so fun to watch. A great content here. Well,

782
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: we have to give them a little credit. This one's

783
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 1: not a real wedding dress. It's a wedding pants suit

784
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 1: with a cape. So it is. It is a step up.

785
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: It's way more modern and they're going to jump out

786
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: of a plane with her in this outfit and with

787
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 1: him in a tux tux or suit. And I was thinking, like,

788
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: what is safe d of that? I feel like? And

789
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: then what's the comfort level of that She's got sleeveless

790
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: outfit on? Have you you have never skydived? Right? Yeah?

791
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: I have no clue. I have no comment here. We

792
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: need Dean. We need Dean to say, like, how uncomfortable

793
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: it is to not have sleeves well skydiving. I bet

794
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 1: it's not that bad. I've seen people do it shirtless thing.

795
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know why I was so concerned about their attire. Well,

796
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: sky well, you're not necessarily hitting anything on your way down,

797
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 1: and if you do, that's a bigger problem. So okay, well,

798
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: obviously that's an exhilarating date. It's I think it's the

799
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 1: classic date of I think it's the the date activity

800
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: that we see pop up very rarely, like every five years.

801
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: On The Bachelor. I remember Colton doing it with Tasha.

802
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: How would you feel and getting that date card and

803
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: finding out that that's on your that's what you're doing

804
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: on your date? Because I feel like this is like

805
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: the one time where I'd be like, oh, in the

806
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 1: contract when I did actually sign away my life, it

807
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: could be at risk. Yeah, I don't think i'd love it.

808
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: I didn't have many dates like this, but heights and

809
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: I got lucky. My knee was still pretty bad when

810
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: I was the bachelor, and so they really protected me

811
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: on any type of extreme dates because my knee was

812
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: still giving out um often, and so I don't have

813
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: to do anything that crazy. But I don't think I

814
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: would love it because I'd be freaking out. And you

815
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 1: should be freaking out if it's your first time jumping

816
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: out of a plane, You're gonna be nervous, and you know,

817
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: as the lead, like protect the women and like at

818
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: that point, I'm only thinking about myself, Like I am

819
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: only thinking about how in the world I'm gonna get

820
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 1: myself to jump out of this plane, and what's it

821
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: gonna mean when I do. It would be a really

822
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: hard date for me to be carrying and consider it on.

823
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 1: I guess I would say, oh, yeah, totally, You're definitely

824
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 1: self centered than that. Um. But I do think that

825
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: it's a date that is hard not to bond on.

826
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: You just skydive for the first time with somebody, and

827
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: I can't imagine know what that natural high is like,

828
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: you guys have definitely you're definitely bonding with all those

829
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: chemicals running through your brain. And I also think it

830
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: makes probably for an easy dinner date conversation because you

831
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: could probably just talk about that for a while and

832
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: you're just pure, you're just black, you know, like what

833
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: you know, Like, just imagine what you feel like for

834
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the day. Yeah, my my, yes, it

835
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: should make a very easy dinner conversation. You should got

836
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about that. And then we went

837
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: up the blade and then I feel like this, and

838
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: then when the door opened, and then when then before

839
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: the parachute pulls. My My question here is, you know, yes,

840
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 1: you have a few bad dates. Everybody out there has

841
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: had a few bad dates where it feels like you

842
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: have nothing to talk about. Happen. It's happened to all

843
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:52,879
Speaker 1: of us. But those are fairly rare. Like those are

844
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: they stand out to you because they happen so irregularly

845
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: in most people's lives when they're in the dating world. Yeah,

846
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: you can usually figure out something to say. Yeah, so

847
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: I yeah, Zach just should have something to talk about

848
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: like he should be really good at having conversation with

849
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: people if he's going to lead a show about dating people.

850
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: So I hope he's good at it. I don't know yet. Well,

851
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: the two of them do so good at it. They

852
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: like each other. They have a nice little date. To

853
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: Griffin Palmer singing, it just seems like a pretty easy

854
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: date that I will say that. I don't feel like

855
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: any massive sparks between them. I don't know that this

856
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: is a couple to really watch out for, but people

857
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: who like each other, and we'll see where it goes. Yeah,

858
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: it's that right now, right it could be a sneaky,

859
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: sneaky one at the end that we're like this blossomed

860
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 1: in week three could be could be sneaky, but right now, yeah,

861
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 1: I wouldn't make my top three mm hmm. And now

862
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: they have exchanged the formal you know rose ceremony cocktail

863
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: party for the class once a season pool party. So Brianna,

864
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: who we have seen just not jive with Zach at

865
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: all ever since she got America's rose back during the

866
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: after the final Rose, she keeps coming up to him

867
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: and being like sad, It's like today I had a

868
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: bad day because of this. Yesterday I had a bad

869
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: day because of that. It's like, obviously he's not going

870
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 1: to be into this girl who just keeps complaining about

871
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,359
Speaker 1: her days here. But she does come up to him

872
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:34,160
Speaker 1: this time and goes, I'm having a bad day because, um,

873
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: I just I'm not feeling a chemistry really with you,

874
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: and I'm feeling sad because these other girl, Christina in particular,

875
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: is making me just not feel comfortable. And we all

876
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: know from last week's episode that Brianna didn't like the

877
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 1: fact that Christina said you got the you got the

878
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: America's Rose are Yeah, because like you got America's Rose,

879
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: I hate you just kidding. It's like, yeah, that's kind

880
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: of like a millennial gen Z expression I hate you, Oh,

881
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: I hate you when we say that when we're jealous. Um,

882
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,880
Speaker 1: that is not something to be offended by. If anything,

883
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: it is something to actually I feel kind of good about.

884
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: It means that somebody is a little envious of you,

885
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,439
Speaker 1: especially in this situation. It's probably kind of a nice

886
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: thing to hear. She wasn't meaning anything bad by it,

887
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: But anyway, since Christina continues to be self centered and

888
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 1: be completely unfiltered, she's not just rubbing Brianna the wrong way,

889
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: but she's obviously rubbing a lot of the girls the

890
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: wrong way. But Brianna, between that quote drama and the

891
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: fact that she's just not feeling anything that's actually decides

892
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: that she's gonna leave. But of course, before she leaves,

893
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: she's gonna call out Christina, and Zach is surprised because

894
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 1: he obviously had a really nice one on one with

895
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: her last week. He sits down with her and she,

896
00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, she kind of explains what I just said,

897
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: She was didn't mean anything bad by any of this.

898
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: She is kind of confused with the girl's interpreting her

899
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: her you know, personality like this, and you know, he

900
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,720
Speaker 1: kind of leaves it a little bit open ended until

901
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony, in which he illuminates her. How do

902
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 1: we not know when somebody really means it when they

903
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: say I hate you? Now, then it is a tone,

904
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 1: you know it. I don't know if somebody looked at me,

905
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: and if somebody looked at me and said, been, um,

906
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:36,440
Speaker 1: you did this, I hate you, I'd be like, do

907
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: you really moment Fallot, but do you really hate me

908
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: for this? Like? Is that what you mean? And they

909
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: would have to explain to me no or yes they do.

910
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: But if somebody said they hated me, even in a

911
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: joking manner, I big, maybe you do a little bit.

912
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk this out. No, come on, you've never had something.

913
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: I feel like I would say that to you too, Like,

914
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: say you, you've never said that to me, You've never

915
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: never said I can't think. I can't think of anything

916
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 1: that I would say that to you, But you've never

917
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 1: told me that. So no, I don't think i'd handle

918
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 1: it well. I wou at least ask for I would

919
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: ask for clarity that that expression doesn't make sense to me.

920
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: Is hey, you have all this success. I hate you.

921
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, I hate oh my god,

922
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: I hate you. That then you might you might need

923
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: a little bit of that. Like we're jealous people. Yes, yeah,

924
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: we're envious. It is envy. It is not like we're not.

925
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: We're basically saying, yeah, I'm jealous. It's it's our way

926
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: of saying it's our we of not saying I'm jealous

927
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: of you. You know what I was saying, Oh my god,

928
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: I'm so jealous. See I would probably say that, oh

929
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: my god, I'm so jealous, which is just saying the

930
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 1: word as you know it is, and you're admitting to

931
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 1: being jealous. And I think the whole reason of saying, oh,

932
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hate you so you don't actually have to

933
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 1: say I'm jealous. Yes, that is fair, But in this scenario,

934
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: you know what I would say if she said this

935
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: to me, is you are telling me that I got

936
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: America's rose, which means Zack didn't give me this rose.

937
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Are you hinting at the fact that Zach really doesn't

938
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 1: like me and I'm only here because America asked me

939
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 1: to be here. That would be how I followed this conversation,

940
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: because what you're saying is a little bit hurtful because

941
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 1: you're pointing out that that first rose was not up

942
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 1: to the lead of the show. It was up to

943
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: America to vote upon, which is a very nice gesture

944
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,720
Speaker 1: to get that rose. Brianna was probably a little insecure

945
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: because of that. You know, we think that we put

946
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: her in a position to feel good about ourselves as

947
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: voting her as America's Rose. But like it, really it's

948
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: America and not the guy. He's going to feel obligated

949
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: to keep America's a girl around. It's not like you

950
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: ever said I'm so glad You've got America's rose because

951
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 1: I wanted to give it to you. Also, no, she's

952
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: a little insecure. Yeah alright, Well who did not get

953
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: a rose at this rose ceremony? Was it only Christina? Yeah?

954
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: Everybody else is bouncing. Oh my god, it's because because

955
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: because because she is the only one left. He was

956
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: just he was going to eliminate three, but Bailey and

957
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: Brianna had already gone home, so that that's hard. It's

958
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: week four, so we're getting a little farther along. I

959
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 1: always say, and you've heard it before in this podcast,

960
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: week five is when I really get interested again. I

961
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: feel like week like three through four, really one and

962
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: two don't really carry that much weight to me. But

963
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: week five is when you can really start to dive in.

964
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: See these relationships form. We should expect to see relationships form. Um.

965
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: It will be interest see what happens next week. I'm

966
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 1: sure those there's gonna be somebody else that goes home.

967
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,160
Speaker 1: So far, we see a trend where people aren't super

968
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: upset to go home, which is interesting. We'll see how

969
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: that plays out so far. Actually, we've done it every season,

970
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 1: so it's not like this is new. Um, how do

971
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: you feel about this season? Let's do a scale of

972
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: A to F A being really good? Stop? Why would

973
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: you do this? We already we already roasted them. I

974
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: don't think we've roasted them. I think we've pointed out

975
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: what we see and what's happening. Okay, well again, I

976
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: I don't know if I I don't want anybody out

977
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,400
Speaker 1: there listening anything I've said anything critical about Zach. I

978
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: don't know Zach right, I don't have any clu I'm

979
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: sure he's a nice man. I'm sure he's a fine

980
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: dude to be around. I don't it doesn't make him

981
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: a good or bad person to not be the best

982
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: possible choice as a lead of the show that like

983
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: has no weight on who he is and what his

984
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:27,239
Speaker 1: character is represented by. But so far, you know, I

985
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: would say, hey, I'm I'm still wondering where he's gonna

986
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,960
Speaker 1: blossom at because we haven't seen him blossom. But I'm

987
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: not mad at the guy. He'd be like, but hey,

988
00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 1: I give the show a D. Sure, yeah, we're right

989
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,240
Speaker 1: right now. I would give the show a pretty low score.

990
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: I'd say this is this is hard to keep watching

991
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm excited for it to pick back

992
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 1: up again. We will keep watching it here, we'll keep

993
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: breaking it down with you. But I the mark of

994
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: a good show for me right now is I don't

995
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: think about The Bachelor. I don't like in fact, when

996
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: our screeners come up, like I have to remember to

997
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: even open it up to watch it right now because

998
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 1: it's just not something on my mind. Where in past seasons,

999
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: even including last season, there were weeks where I cannot

1000
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: wait to get the screener to see what happened next.

1001
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: I haven't felt that, even with Clayton season. Yeah, sure, yeah,

1002
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: so I haven't felt that yet, which is why I

1003
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: give it a D as well. Um. But hey, a

1004
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 1: lot of room for growth, a lot of upside coming

1005
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: our way. I believe in it. We'll see it. Um.

1006
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: I'm hoping it happens next week. Hey, Ashley, we have

1007
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: headlines to break down. There are some really exciting headlines

1008
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 1: to talk about, um, and so let's take a break

1009
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: when we come back. We got some love stories, we

1010
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: got some drama. Um, we got some things just to

1011
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: sit on and meditate on and and walk through. But

1012
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:59,360
Speaker 1: we do have headlines right after this the Bachelorettes. Claire

1013
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: Crawley aries Ryan Dawkins the happiest day of my life.

1014
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: This according to people. Yeah, are we so happy that

1015
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: Clara married. I'm so happy. This is awesome. They got

1016
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: married on a Tuesday, which is like kind of cool,

1017
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: and it feels spontaneous, like they just went to the

1018
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: courthouse and got married. That's not how it went. But

1019
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: it was definitely a smaller ceremony. I think the ceremony

1020
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: took place where they had their first date, and it

1021
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,720
Speaker 1: happened days after her wedding dress was stolen from a car.

1022
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: I should have known that the wedding was coming up,

1023
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: because girls usually don't get their dress, um, you know,

1024
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: until like a week before the wedding. So but I

1025
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: was still so surprised to see that they were actually

1026
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 1: married and just so so happy. They went public with

1027
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: their relationship in September. I think they started dating in

1028
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: early summer, and it seems really fast, but I think

1029
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: like at the ages that they're at, she's forty one,

1030
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: you just know, and we're just so happy for them.

1031
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: It's it's everything we've wanted for Claire. Yeah, it's a

1032
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: big day for Batchel Nation. Claire Crawley is now married. Wow,

1033
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's celebrate. The next headline is this.

1034
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,920
Speaker 1: This is one that um, I saw last week when

1035
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: I was in unders and it hit hard. Um because yeah,

1036
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,959
Speaker 1: I know Sarah and um, she's awesome. But Batchel Nation,

1037
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:33,240
Speaker 1: Sarah Heren and fiance Dylan Brown reveal newborn son Oliver

1038
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: died in his dad's arms. This according to US Weekly. Ah, literally,

1039
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: there's just like, no, there's no words. Um, this is

1040
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: one of the saddest things I've really ever heard, and

1041
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: it's horrible that it happened to somebody as wonderful as Sarah.

1042
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: We were together in Monterey Carmel, together as bachelor family

1043
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,720
Speaker 1: when the news came out. You know, we talked about

1044
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,439
Speaker 1: it and there's but then there's like really like I'm sorry,

1045
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like super inarticulate when it comes to

1046
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: speaking about this. It's just like the most unbelievably tragic

1047
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 1: thing ever. And I think you read these things and

1048
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: you have like a heavy heart and everything when you're

1049
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: not apparent, but then when you're a parent, it's just

1050
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: hits you in a whole different way. And we've just

1051
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 1: been thinking about them and praying for them all week,

1052
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: and I just don't know how you come back from

1053
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: this like emotionally. Um, But here, I'll read what I

1054
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: can't do it. You want to do it for me?

1055
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: I can. Yeah, I'll read through some of this for everybody.

1056
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't think I can read this out loud. No,

1057
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Speaker 1: that's fair, that's fine. Here in via Instagram on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: February one, while honoring the late infant. There are no

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Speaker 1: words for the magnitude of loss and pain were experiencing.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful in sign utaneously tragic. He had my nose

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Speaker 1: and his dad's mouth and long fingers, she continued. Oliver,

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Speaker 1: our ivf miracle, defied so many odds and thought through

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00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: so many hard milestones to be here. But the Higher

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00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: Power still had other plans for the three of us.

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Speaker 1: Our time together was short, but we are grateful for

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Speaker 1: the days we had with Oliver and my belly. He

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00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: has taught us so much about the grateful. He has

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00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 1: taught us so much about the integrity of life, love

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00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: and death. Oliver filled our home and our hearts. Was

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Speaker 1: so much love and most importantly, optimism. The stars aligned

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00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: to create baby Oliver with a deep meaningful purpose, bigger

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Speaker 1: than we'll ever understand. His body was small, but his

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00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: legacy will always be larger than life to us. We're

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00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: thinking about them and so many others, UM, who have

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00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: experienced this, and uh yeah, we'll continue to think about him.

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Speaker 1: An odd gear to shift here. Two more headlines, um,

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Speaker 1: but they are headlines. Bachelor's Star Rachel and Clayton spark

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00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: dating rumors. This according to page six, and I'll just

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Speaker 1: read the next headline as well, Ashley, because they go together.

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00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 1: Bachelor's Star Rachel says, no, I'm not dating Clayton, but

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00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:35,080
Speaker 1: clarifies reunion rumors that according TMZ. So going to TMZ

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00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: and to us who brought them together in Carmel, California

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00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 1: for this podcast. So we saw this unfolded from our eyes.

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00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: What started the spark these dating rumors is a TikTok

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00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 1: that rae that Rachel, that Rachel had an idea for

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00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 1: and Michelle taped it and it was really funny and

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00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got to see it firsthand. But I

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00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: think they a trending sound on TikTok right now. That's

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01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,120
Speaker 1: like what's going on. If I would explain it to you,

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01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: it would give us both an aneurysm. And basically it's

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01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: Michelle looking at looking at Clayton and Rachel together and

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01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: they're like, we'd explain, but it would given sen aneurism,

1093
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: and they're both like kind of smirking and shrugging, and

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01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: it's really funny. It's truly like the perfect TikTok for

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01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 1: the two of them to record went together, one just

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01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: for laughs and two guests to get back to nations

1097
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: tongues wagging. Yeah, uh so, No, they are not dating,

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01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: but the two of them did spend some solid time

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01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: together as a group, I think, just as a group

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Speaker 1: with us, and they got along really well. Just tell

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01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: you from being there. The two of them were sitting around,

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01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, a circle around the fireplace with us, and

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01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: they were sitting next to each other, and they were

1104
01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:00,680
Speaker 1: very deep in conversation sometimes and I tried not to

1105
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 1: ease drop. Yes I did. They were definitely rehashing, rehashing

1106
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff from their time together. And that

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01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,320
Speaker 1: wasn't the only time. I also heard that they were

1108
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: like sitting on a couch before what I think, when

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01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,800
Speaker 1: we were doing the Hyundai commercial and they were like

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01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: spending an hour just like kind of talking about the past,

1111
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: but all like very in a very friendly sense, kind

1112
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 1: of like like they're working through it, and they were

1113
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 1: saying things that, you know, like any kind of couple

1114
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 1: having not seen each other in a while might bring up.

1115
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: Don't ever say that the Almost Famous podcast doesn't care

1116
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 1: about healing past relationships. Never say it, because this is

1117
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 1: a tangible example of us doing something really good for headlines,

1118
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,000
Speaker 1: and for the two of the headlines for sure. Well,

1119
01:01:52,280 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: Clayton also smashed the rumors of a reconciliation with our

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Speaker 1: next headline spotted, Yeah, go for it. The Bachelor's Clayton

1121
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,440
Speaker 1: spotted with sports reporter Sarah Cardona after Susie Evans split.

1122
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: This according to Yahoo, do you know who Sarah Cardona is?

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01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:14,360
Speaker 1: I think she's a local news reporter, um, because I

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01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: know that, Like when he was spotted at this game

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01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 1: of the JumboTron with her. Was the JumboTron or are

1126
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: people just like taking pictures in there? Because I saw

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01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,560
Speaker 1: a video of him dancing and I was like, we've

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01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 1: seen this before. Okay, So like the two of them

1129
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: are out and I was like, oh am, I supposed

1130
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 1: to know that girl. But basically it was just like,

1131
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's on a date with somebody else. So

1132
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: I guess the Rachel stuff isn't a thing, and I guess, um,

1133
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: this would probably make headlines either way, even if the

1134
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: Rachel stuff wasn't out there, because it's like Clayton on

1135
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: his first public date with another public personality, even if

1136
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: she is, um, yeah, she's the local ABC affiliate. Sports

1137
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 1: don't even know it was a date. We have confirmation

1138
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: was a date. Come on, Okay, next in mine is this.

1139
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: Caitlin Bristow says producers sexualized Nick Vile to her licked

1140
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: lips after they kissed. This according to Cosmo, Okay, this

1141
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: is pretty freaking gross. Um. So after Nick and Caitlin

1142
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: would kiss, there was one producer Caitlin said that would

1143
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,320
Speaker 1: be like, Oh, I just want to know what it

1144
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: tastes like like to make out with Nick. And she

1145
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: would come in and she'd wipe Caitlin's lips and then

1146
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:41,959
Speaker 1: lick her own lips and that and then be like, oh, yeah,

1147
01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: that's what I'd be like, oh, and I'm like, Okay,

1148
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 1: that's really really not good. Um. And that was what

1149
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: she thinks is like them like brainwashing her and putting

1150
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 1: him on a pedestal to her like, oh man, like

1151
01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 1: that guy, like you get that guy. That must be

1152
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: something to experience. She said thinks it was a tactic

1153
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: on you know, on her on Nick, like yeah, ta,

1154
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 1: trying to make Nick seems so desirable, exactly, thank you. Well.

1155
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: Next tideline is that she got nothing to say about that. No,

1156
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: I think it's weird. That's so weird. Could you imagine

1157
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: just somebody touching your own mouth with their fingers. That's

1158
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: actually that to me is the more disturbing part. It's

1159
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: like somebody took their fingers and rubbed that on my lips.

1160
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: It's I don't even know who she's talking about. I

1161
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: can't even think about who she's talking about. Whoever it is,

1162
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: I think I might know. Well, Chris Harrison and Caitlin

1163
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: Bristow hash out their Bachelor beef this according to CNN. Well,

1164
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: I haven't listened to this podcast yet, but Caitlin said

1165
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: last week that she had, you know, reached out to Chris,

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01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 1: especially at the time, you know, there was an awkwardness

1167
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:09,480
Speaker 1: of course, like it or felt like there would be

1168
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: awkwardness when she got the hosting gig, and she said

1169
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: to him you know, she texted him talking about that

1170
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: and she never heard back, so she said that she ghosted.

1171
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: She had been ghosted um by Chris. But then after

1172
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: this came out, he had her on his podcast this week,

1173
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: which is a great get for I heard, congratulations to

1174
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: our team for just murdering this opportunity. And they had

1175
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: a two part episode which I haven't listened to yet

1176
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,479
Speaker 1: that they just kind of talk all of that out.

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01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: It's worth listening to. It's it's a podcast worth listening to,

1178
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 1: the most aromatic pod ever. Like back in the day,

1179
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: she used to joke when Jason proposes he has to

1180
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: ask my dad, my stepdad and Chris Harrison, like, that's

1181
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: how close they were, and that's how much of a

1182
01:05:58,080 --> 01:06:00,880
Speaker 1: father figure she saw him as. But then all of

1183
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 1: a sudden, she just she says, she didn't hear from

1184
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:06,800
Speaker 1: him again, and uh yeah, so they get to talk

1185
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: it out on the podcast. Definitely listen to that. It's

1186
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: the most dramatic podcast ever. And they obviously answer all

1187
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 1: the all the ghosts in the room. Yeah, and there

1188
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:19,840
Speaker 1: are some real things that they're talking through. These are

1189
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:25,240
Speaker 1: real life situations. Um. Chris Harrison also says that Chris

1190
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 1: Kaitlyn Bristo and Tasia Adams are set up to fail

1191
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: as Bachelor at co host this. According to People, Yeah,

1192
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: what do you think, Ashley? This sounds juicier than it is.

1193
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: He basically just says that there's not enough room for

1194
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: two people to be host Like. He says that the

1195
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,920
Speaker 1: show was not designed for two hosts. He says, there's

1196
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,200
Speaker 1: not room for two emotions in that mental space that

1197
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 1: you're taking over, so it's never gonna work. Like basically,

1198
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 1: he's saying that, like, you can't confide in two people

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01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: when you're the Bachelor, Like you're gonna just want, like

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01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 1: to talk to one person. You're not gonna want to

1201
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,479
Speaker 1: explain your feelings to two people. And I don't really

1202
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: know that that's why it didn't work out for them

1203
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:13,440
Speaker 1: having being long term hosts. What I don't I don't know,

1204
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,600
Speaker 1: because I think everybody enjoyed them in his host But

1205
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 1: I definitely think the vibe was always put out there

1206
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:22,920
Speaker 1: that was going to be a temporary thing. Sure, well

1207
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: that is what Chris told Caitlin, so he felt that way. Caitlin, Well,

1208
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 1: you can listen to it see if she agreed or disagreed.

1209
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 1: Final headline is Bachelor in Paradise is Asterrid and Kevin

1210
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 1: expecting a second baby quotas we're celebrating this. According to people,

1211
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: this is very exciting news. The two of them had

1212
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:48,520
Speaker 1: their first baby um fourteen months ago August, and now

1213
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: they have another one on the way. They talk about

1214
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:53,720
Speaker 1: it on their Instagram. So as you guys want to

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01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 1: know about this fertility journey, go ahead and check out

1216
01:07:57,040 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 1: that post. Well that's all we have for you today

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01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: on the Almost Famous podcast. We'll be back next week.

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01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 1: We came out with a lot of content last week

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01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: from Karma by the Sea. Again, we had some incredible

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01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation people with us. UM. I was there for

1221
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 1: a few days and left so everybody else could have

1222
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: more fun. Um. But you should go back and listen

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01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: to those shows on the Almost Famous thread. Um they

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01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:26,759
Speaker 1: are posted. Um. And so until next time, I've been been,

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Speaker 1: I've been been. Good. Welcome, I've been actually, I think bye.

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Speaker 1: Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast on

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