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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never leave the pocket

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Speaker 1: because we had no mobility. We're like kurkoa Chains. I'm

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Speaker 1: here in the Chris Wesley podcast studio for our week

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Speaker 1: nine picks. It's Cynthia Freeland. Time of the week. Let's go.

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Speaker 2: Why would we ever leave the pocket?

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Speaker 1: No, we're having so much success inside the pocket. That's

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Speaker 1: a little tease to maybe one of my picks a

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Speaker 1: little later. But this is the part of the show

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Speaker 1: where we talk about our picks from last week. We

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Speaker 1: both went one and two, so we're just gonna move

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Speaker 1: past that for the season. If you check us out

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Speaker 1: on YouTube, you can see the fancy graphics. Cynthia is

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Speaker 1: one game up on me. She's five hundred one back.

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Speaker 1: You know what things. I actually looked at our record

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Speaker 1: against the spread of the off season on game debut,

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Speaker 1: and it's much better. We're both well over five hundred

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Speaker 1: picking every single game when we're so that just means

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Speaker 1: that our time is coming and that we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some great picks. Because the picks for this show I

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Speaker 1: feel good about. This week. You're going to start us

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Speaker 1: off three picks against the spread, go back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Listen, you are one heck of a segue artist with

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Speaker 3: that intro, because I'm going to go with Atlanta. Oh

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Speaker 3: thank Atlanta wins by at least two and a half,

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Speaker 3: so three points. At least I have five points. I'm

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Speaker 3: a conservative modeler, so ultimately that's a pretty big win,

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Speaker 3: in part because this Dallas defense cannot stop any yak yaka.

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Speaker 3: Remember the yards of the catcher yards after contact you go.

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Speaker 3: Both are a huge problem. So John Robinson, welcome to

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Speaker 3: my lineup. I'm obviously he was there to begin with,

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Speaker 3: but massive day for him.

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Speaker 1: For me, I love that let's just join forces. We

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Speaker 1: haven't done that a lot on this show. But Atlanta

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Speaker 1: for it, I'm feeling it. This is one of those

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Speaker 1: but it's almost like, oh, you're just begging us to

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Speaker 1: take the Falcons here. I get a little worried about that.

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Speaker 1: But I've been fading Atlanta all year, including last week.

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Speaker 1: I did a bad job at that, picking the Buccaneers

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Speaker 1: on our show game debut. I don't think I did

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Speaker 1: it here. No, you didn't do it here. I don't

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Speaker 1: know whatever, But here's the thing. They have a good

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Speaker 1: running game. YEP. At the beginning of the season, it

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Speaker 1: was like, can you marry up the shotgun the pistol

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Speaker 1: it's very effective lately. So going up against Dallas, whether

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Speaker 1: they have Michael Parsons back or not. Fourth in overall

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Speaker 1: offensive efficiency and then this is a bad defense for

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Speaker 1: the Falcons. That's why I haven't been in on them all,

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Speaker 1: but I think this is a week that they can survive.

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Speaker 1: So I looked at the DVOA, So that's total efficiency.

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Speaker 1: crazy here? In total efficiency? Falcons are about thirteenth on

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Speaker 1: not a good team. There's just been like a team

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Speaker 1: that Vegas hasn't given up on. And then finally they

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Speaker 1: broke out those Outcast sweats shirts this week. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if you saw that the Falcons Outcast collab. You're

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Speaker 3: You cannot lose wearing that sweatshirt like it is like

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Speaker 3: like undefeated sweatshirt. And we haven't even seen them play

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you look like you wanted to tell me

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Speaker 1: more about like the bad defense.

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Speaker 3: That's some good swag right there, Like whoever's doing that

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Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills and six points, so they have to

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Speaker 3: But ultimately I don't know what to trust about this defense,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think their toughness will be tested. We'll see

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Speaker 3: Yeah, defense, but Jalen Ramsey has not been Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't given up something coverage and Buffalo can beat

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Speaker 2: It's like a really honored yeah.

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Speaker 1: Because I do feel that in my soul this matchup

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Speaker 3: I was pretty sure you didn't right two of those

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Speaker 1: My top pick. Let's hear it, Washington minus four on

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Speaker 2: I see Dexi's good. They're really good. They have most

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Speaker 3: But anyways, but yeah, like that's been a really big

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Speaker 3: that's been a really big difference maker for this Washington defense.

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Speaker 1: I like it. And yeah, Tyrone Tracy, who had been

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Speaker 3: And in the Battle of Apolis's the one in Minneapolis

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Speaker 3: So Minneapolis with five points, woo in Minneapolis against Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: Is I okay? I bet? I wonder if Colts fans

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Speaker 1: It's nice not you drive to that. No, I guess

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Speaker 1: admit Indy plus five is on my little box list,

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Speaker 1: but it's not my third pick. But we were going

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Speaker 3: You have two three guys that are potential pass catchers,

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Speaker 3: Wait one thing with Christian Dara saw being gone, I

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Speaker 1: That helps a lot. That helps a big time. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't like picking anything that could have an injury, repercussions.

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Speaker 1: That's never a good sign. It's never a good sign

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Speaker 1: I don't care. He looked good last week. I actually

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Speaker 1: This is maybe a spiteful pick. I'm not believing in

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Speaker 1: my mind, the Baltimore Ravens returning home, and so I

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Speaker 1: So I say nine points is not enough. Bo Nicks

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Speaker 3: You know what's wild is the rookie quarterback who scored

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Speaker 3: de I mean, I just thought that stat was wild.

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Speaker 3: this is I'm pretty happy about these. Yes, my NFC

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Speaker 2: How are we feeling about that?

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Speaker 1: That's fit? That's looking And how about.

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Speaker 3: Them Broncos five and a half baby five and a

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Am I happy about that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You're right? Am I tooting my own heart?

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Speaker 1: Be shp? You should? That's if you can cash like

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Speaker 4: Before Thanksgiving, well before Thanksgiving, maybe maybe he can catch

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Speaker 4: I'm very very wrong, Okay, so I'm going Baltimore minus

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Speaker 3: The box was the box came out of the gates

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Speaker 1: On fire, and they get on some water lately. But

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Speaker 1: I get totally out of the Ravens business. If Lamar

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Speaker 1: But I think they are a good team that absolutely

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Speaker 3: So I think it's I think this is a wild

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Speaker 3: that are like, what am I even watching here?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: So I'm just curious which one is going to show

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Speaker 2: Team quite a bit.

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Speaker 3: He was a Steeler front okay, and Max Crosby. His

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Speaker 2: So my I mean, I'm just saying for the number.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying for the win, just out of cure,

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Speaker 1: Coming or is like it's like when they can get

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Speaker 1: up for games and Gardner Minshew plays well that's two

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Speaker 1: So I like Cincinnati minus seven, but I like him

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Speaker 1: a lot better if t Higgins is that's right, playing

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Speaker 1: two review. We are both in on the Falcons. I

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Speaker 1: and your final pick was I forgot Minnesota. Minnesota. That's

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