1 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: The Welcomeberg Gang, while we've got another chapter in the 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: football Dennis Gardek from flid Beeing Burgers to team captain 3 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Just incredible. Gardeck was one of eight 4 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: captains named on Wednesday. Speaking of names, Andy Isabella certainly 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: sounds like, if you believe head coach Cliff Kingsbury, Isabella 6 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: is going to get the first crack at returning punts 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: this coming weekend against the forty nine ers. We put 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the spotlight. Kyler Murray has a goal 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty and Jimmy Garoppolo very successful. His numbers 10 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: against the Cardinals not only last season, but for his 11 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: career very impressive. It's episode three h seven and it 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: starts now Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Griga 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,319 Speaker 1: Lew and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by 14 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: Day Proud, partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona 15 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: Cardinals Podcasts. Visit hasy Cardinals dot com Slash podcasts. Murray 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: rolls to the right throws near site of fried pot. 17 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: He's into the ends after the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolu 18 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. So I loved MJ how Jordan Hicks 19 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: describe it today, Christmas in the year as far as 20 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: in his words, the different feeling because now as we 21 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: get to the midweek and the first quote unquote official practice, 22 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: if you will, of the twenty twenty regular season. Yeah, 23 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: there was a bonus practice on Monday, but now the 24 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: focus can really begin on the xs and os and 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: this week's opponent, the forty nine ers. Yeah, and you know, 26 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: being out there this morning, I like these new schedules 27 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: for the Cardinals are out there early, and you know, 28 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: Cliff was able to talk to us at seven am, 29 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: and then we get the players afterwards. But it does 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of breeze. Can see they had their 31 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: game faces on and so it was a perfect morning. 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: And like I said, usually are out there. You know, 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 1: when I moved here in nineteen eighty eight, they always 34 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: said June, July and in August are the hottest. And 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: I'm like, I've been hot on Halloween in September. It 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: can be warm. But it was a good morning, and 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: you know that's one of the beauties of having the bubble. 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: Also because we only get to watch the first twenty 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: minutes and you know, with sixty nine players and twenty 40 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: two coaches, you know they're going to utilize that. But 41 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: for the most part, you could just see that they're 42 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: in regular season mode, or in this case, opener mode. Well, 43 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 1: it's easier to go outside and enjoy the weather when 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 1: it's in the upper sixties, lower seventies. I mean, we've 45 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: got a cold front coming through our all our bird 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: gang fan base that is outside the state here, yet 47 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a cool down that is only gonna 48 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: last for what maybe the next twenty four forty eight hours, 49 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: So they basically enjoy what we have right now because 50 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna get back up to triple digits just like that. Yeah, 51 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I've been concerned for obvious reasons all 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the fires, and you know, hopefully when it comes to 53 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: these gender revails that maybe that's over because they started 54 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: the fires there. But I was wondering how it affected 55 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: Santa Clara. But you know, it kind of looks a 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: little gloomy sometimes, but that could be because of the 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: rain in different weather. But I think the Cardinals are anticipatement. 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: You know, you know, midweather versus hot weather, and you 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: know that won't be an excuseis win or loose. Yeah, 60 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan earlier today is saying that the air quality 61 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: is a lot better than what these viral photographs that 62 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: have been making that way around social media what it 63 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: looks like, because it does look like this orange glow 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: of pretty much the entire West Coast and specifically in 65 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: the Bay Area. But fingers crossed that that will not 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: be a factor on Sunday, and it doesn't appear right 67 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: now that it is going to be a factor for 68 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 1: that one twenty five start at Levi's Stadium. Before we 69 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: get into some of the matchups, and I know you 70 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: want to touch Niners quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo. There is some 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: news and we have our Cardinals twenty twenty team captains. 72 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: It was going to be six, but hed Cliff Kingsbury 73 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: said that the voting was too close, so they went 74 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: with eight on offense Larry Fitzgerald, Kyler Murray, DJ Humphries, defense, 75 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: Corey Peters, Chandler Jones, Patrick Peterson, and Jordan Hicks, and 76 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: then special teams Dennis Gardeck. Yeah, and you know that's 77 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: the NFL rule, you can have up to eight, you know, 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: like the Niners just released they have seven and if somebody, obviously, 79 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: according to the tweet, plays well and maybe they can 80 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: add that guy. Yeah, I mean it's it's nice to 81 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: see DJ Humphries get the Captain C. I think he's 82 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: proven that. You know, he's got to stay healthy, but 83 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: he's matured. And it's nice to see Patrick Peterson get 84 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: that Captain C again because he is a leader in 85 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: that locker room. Unfortunately, you know, when you get suspended 86 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 1: for six games, you're not eligible for any postseason honors, 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: and it probably wouldn't have been the right thing to do. 88 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: And then obviously the quarterback Kyler Murray, that position demands leadership. 89 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: We know he's mad strides there. So you know, when 90 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: you leave it down to your peers, I think it 91 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: speaks volumes to who they think those leaders are in 92 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 1: that locker room. Yeah, according to Murray quote, it's obviously 93 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: a great honor than he added. Thankful for the opportunity 94 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 1: to load these guys every day. I feel confident, real 95 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: good about this season and what we've got going in 96 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: this locker room. Unquote Murray first time captain along with 97 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: DJ Humphreys and Jordan Hicks as well, plus Dennis Gardack 98 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: more on guardack in a moment, but Peters and Jones 99 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: third straight seasons that if they have been given the 100 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: nod as team captain, and it does mean a lot 101 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: to these players. In fact, for Hicks, first time he's 102 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: ever been a team captain in the National Football League, 103 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: and he quote said, it's all about respect. Quote I 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,359 Speaker 1: play for respect. I play for a legacy. So I 105 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of times we get caught up in numbers. 106 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: But when it's your peers voting you, whether that's the 107 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or a postseason honor, but team captaincy, that 108 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: means a lot inside that locker room. Well, and Jordan, 109 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 1: you know, Hicks has been dealing with this, you know, 110 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 1: injury prone tag, and you know last year he's able 111 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: to quiet the critics. And maybe that's coming more from 112 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: Philadelphia because you know, obviously they invested a draft pick 113 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: and he wasn't able to stay healthy, played every single snap. 114 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: He's the captain on defense, you know, with wearing the 115 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: green sticker on his helmet. So to me, it's worthy 116 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: of given him that tag because you know, you look 117 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: at Jordan, Higgs and Patrick and Larry and then you 118 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: throw on Corey Peters. I mean, those are go to 119 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: guys that we go to in the locker room, and 120 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: you know, unfortunately we're not going to have that option 121 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 1: this year, but you can definitely get him on Zoom meeting. 122 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: So I think they are great choices, and you know, 123 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you know they can 124 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: retire at some point in their careers and say, I 125 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: was a team captain, and we know how much Steve 126 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: Kine values that when it comes to college players. I mean, 127 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: you know you're not always going to get team captains 128 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: when guys stayed two or three years at certain schools. 129 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: You know, like Evan Weaver, even though he's not on 130 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: the roster. Rochard Lawrence played a lot of big games. 131 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: So when you're a team captain, that means guys look 132 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: up to. And when Steve said he went to LSU's practice, 133 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, this guy was everywhere and he talked to 134 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: his position coach, to strength coach and they said, you 135 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: know this guy, he gets it and he's played in 136 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: big games. So you know, at the end of the day, 137 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Rochard Lawrence, who could be that guy 138 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: in the future. Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, the entire 139 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: twenty twenty draft class a team captain at some point 140 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: during their college career, and that says a lot, and 141 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: it speaks volumes to what the NFL is looking for 142 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: and a player when they come scouting before they make 143 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: their selection on draft day. But Dennis Gardak, I think 144 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: this is something that we really need to touch on here, MJ. 145 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Because I think when you talk about the common man, 146 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: this is someone that a lot of fans can relate to. 147 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Drafted out of his all school, not given much of 148 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: a chance to make the Week one roster, undrafted, makes 149 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: year one, now in the year three, and here he 150 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: is as a special teams player. And the comment that 151 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: was made by Cliff kings Kingsbury, I think speaks a lot. 152 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: Quote even on scout team, he's one of those guys 153 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: when I'm calling offensive plays, You're like, there's Gardex screwing 154 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: up the play you want him to go. But he 155 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: goes so hard every snap that sometimes he makes it 156 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: look bad. And that's just his mentality, that's his mindset 157 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: when he steps on that field every day. Well, he's 158 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: got one speed and the fact that he's an undrafted 159 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: free age and he also told us that a couple 160 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: of years ago in the Red and White practice that 161 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: were more fans there than he had in high school 162 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: and college. I mean he actually said he had more 163 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: fans in high school. So great story. You know, I 164 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: want to give a lot of credits to guys that 165 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: work out, because you know, we don't get all the videos. 166 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: But this guy in the community has done hit a 167 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: wonderful job putting himself out there, and you know, I 168 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: think he's creating a fan base for himself. He's he's 169 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's the average Joe. I mean, he 170 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: would have to work hard to where he's at. He's 171 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: got you know, he's able to put the uniform on 172 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: and now he's going to have the sea and really 173 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: he's cut his teeth on special teams and he's getting 174 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: an opportunity to play outside linebacker, more depth there. He's 175 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: gotten a lot stronger. So you know, you can't have 176 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: enough guys on the team like that that just played 177 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: with their heart, worked at McDonald's and in his words, 178 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: I was Grill Crewe mj. He flipped Hamburgers and now 179 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: is a team captain in the National Football League. Yeah, 180 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, he said he didn't want 181 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: to work the counter because maybe, you know, maybe he 182 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: wasn't going to be able to take their orders the 183 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: way there. You know, I asked him, maybe he didn't 184 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: know the numbers, you know, I want to number five. 185 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: But he was content working in the back with obviously 186 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: the grill and flipping burgers and so yeah, I mean 187 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: something like Kurt Warner because he a Hall of Famer, 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,439 Speaker 1: but he was stocking shells. And now you got to 189 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: and these are great stories. I mean, you just raggister 190 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: Richard so to speak. You know where you probably didn't 191 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: have a ton growing up, but obviously he had people 192 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: in his corner. And he said he when he had 193 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: a group text with his brothers, they were really excited 194 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: about it. So that's, you know, that's great support. And 195 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 1: you know, I want these guys to be happy when 196 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: they get named team captain. All right, I gotta ask. 197 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was his first job, but 198 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: let's talk first jobs here because I've got one. But 199 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:35,239 Speaker 1: we all have our first job. Where did Mike Jarecki's 200 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: professional life begin? Well, delivering newspapers? Um, I think you 201 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: had to be sixteen, but I knew the guy that 202 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: was doing the hiring and I was fourteen, and you know, 203 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 1: it was tough in the in the winter because you know, 204 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: I used to drive my bike and people didn't like 205 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: me driving over their grats and so one troublemaker, Well 206 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: I was just looking at you know, I had to 207 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: take the bus to school in the morning and it 208 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: was cold. So but sometimes on Saturdays they would put 209 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 1: flyers in there and then they would let you know 210 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: that there are two inserts in there, and sometimes I 211 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: just didn't deliver them. Now, my second real job was 212 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: working at Dairy Queen. I was basically they had like 213 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: bananas split specials all the time, so I was the 214 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: one cutting up with bananas and you know ice cream. 215 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: And then I worked at front Lee's ice Cream. So 216 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: but I also shoes shined it at night. I would 217 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: go to the local bars and they would let me 218 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: in until eight o'clock. And some of these guys were 219 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: just hammered it. So they probably woke up with you know, 220 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: black or brown around their sock. I'll say this much 221 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: like years, I have a little ice cream background and 222 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: as well Huggin Dawes at the local mall. So I 223 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: think between you and I and Dennis Gardeck. We proved 224 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: wherever you start, it doesn't matter as far as where 225 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: you finished. But you gotta start somewhere and being able 226 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: to work your way up and learn valuable lessons each step, 227 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: and who knows you two can be a team captain 228 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. Yeah. I remember when I 229 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: moved here. I was graduated when I was seventeen. I 230 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: turned eighteen in August, and you know, I lived at 231 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: my uncle and he said eat until you get a 232 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: job and don't the pay rent. And I was bellhopping 233 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: and I was thrilled to go home and put like 234 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty ones in my shoe box. You know, 235 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: I was like, this is a good job, but obviously 236 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: no benefits. I was making like two fifteen an hour. 237 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: My checks were nothing, but it gave me the urge 238 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: to like go out there and hustle a little bit. 239 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what Guardeck said as well. The lessons 240 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: that you learned you can certainly apply to other portions 241 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: of your life. For Guardeck, it certainly carried him now 242 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 1: to his third season in the NFL. In the third 243 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: season with the Cardinals, he is certainly going to be 244 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: a force on special teams and we kind of get 245 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: a glimpse now what this team is going to look like. Again, 246 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: it is still very much much on paper, but the 247 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: unofficial depth chart has been released and a couple of 248 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: things that stand out. We see Calvin Beecham listed as 249 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: the starting right tackle. I think, MJ that's something that 250 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,680 Speaker 1: we all anticipated. That's where we said it was trending 251 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,439 Speaker 1: and at least right now and something happens between that 252 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: on Sunday. That's how this Cardinals team is going to 253 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: look with DJ Humphrey's Justin Ugh, Mason Cole j R. 254 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: Sweezy and Calvin Beacham. And Beecham did admit today with 255 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: our zooming that there was competition there and I think 256 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: they obviously maybe feel that Murray could be your swing tackle. 257 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: You know, Josh Jones is dealing with a little bit 258 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: of an injury right now, so you know they're gonna 259 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: dress eight on game days, so I would think Murray 260 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: and then you throw in Max Garcia and then we'll 261 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: have to wait and see who the eighth guy is. 262 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, there was competition at that position. But I 263 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: think when you you know, play thirty five starts at 264 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: Luck tackle for the Jets three time captain. You know, 265 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: obviously he has a relationship. He lived here in the offseason, 266 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: been working out with Pew and DJ Humphreys, so it 267 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 1: makes sense. And again, you know, I think the left 268 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: tackle is very important, but I think teams have multiple 269 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: pass rushers. The Cardinals are going to see some pressure 270 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: from their front for the Niners feel like they don't 271 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: need to blitz. They're just going to bring four and 272 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 1: get pressure. So I think it's important to have, you know, 273 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: quality left tackle with good feet, and teams normally runs 274 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 1: in the right side because they feel like maybe there's 275 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: a lesser outside pass rushers they can't shed blocks. So 276 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect fit for him playing on 277 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: the right side. And I love what Beecham had to 278 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: say making that switch from left to ride because it 279 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: is a big deal. But he said, to a certain extent, 280 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: I did what they asked me to do. I'm a professional. 281 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 1: This is what I get paid to do, and I'm 282 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: going to do what the coaching staff asked me to do, 283 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: not what I want to do. But what is needed 284 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: for this team and what's needed right now is for 285 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: him to play ride tackle and play it just as 286 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: well as he did on the left side. Well, players 287 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: will tell you that it's, you know, the analogy they've 288 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: used over the year. It's like, all of a sudden, 289 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: you eat right handed, and all of a sudden, you 290 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: gotta eat left handed. And you know, over time it 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: gets a little bit simplified. But the fact is that 292 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: he's taken every single RepU He had a couple of 293 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: days off, but you know, but he was in the 294 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: Zoom meetings and so in his relationship with Kugler, I 295 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: mean that that goes a long way too. You know, 296 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 1: obviously he spent some time in Pittsburgh, but just having 297 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: some intel and Coogler felt like, you know, I always 298 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: say it when it comes to coups, he's going to 299 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: play the best five guys and he's really comfortable with 300 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: the back because if something happens this year. Well, speaking 301 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: of that backup, as far as the offensive line, Justin 302 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: Murray listed as the backup at both right tackle right guard. 303 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Josh Jones listed as third string left tackle behind both 304 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: Josh Miles and the Chorus Humphreys. Now, again, this is 305 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: all on paper, but it's kind of the first time 306 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 1: we've seen what this team might look like when they 307 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: line up defensively, Vandre Campbell listed as they starting an 308 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: inside linebacker next to Jordan Hicks, Isaiah Simmons the backup, 309 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: and Dray Kirkpatrick they're starting corner opposite Patrick Peterson. Yeah, 310 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: it makes sense. I think they they covered very well 311 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: after the Robert Alford injury, they kind of flood at 312 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: the position. But once again, there's some intel with Vans 313 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: Joseph being his defensive backs coach in Cincinnati from twenty 314 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: fourteen to two thousand and sixteen, we talked about his 315 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: size when they signed him, you know, six two one 316 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: ninety long arms. So you know, I like the fact 317 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: that they got an experienced guy there. He's played in 318 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: close to one hundred games. He has over sixty starts, 319 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I think anybody playing that on that side, 320 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna get targeted because obviously, you know, Patrick Peterson 321 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: usually takes that number one wide receiver. Teams are going 322 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: to take, you know, shots with Barbara Murphy on the 323 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: field and obviously Drey Kirkpatrick. So I like I like 324 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: how they recovered though they got they got an instant 325 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: plug and play with experience, and I think he's going 326 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: to really help this defense, and it wouldn't surprise either 327 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: one of us if Murphy is out there starting. It 328 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: all depends on ball distance and what the forty nine 329 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: ers come out, how many wide receivers, And the same 330 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: thing can be said about Simmons as well. Yes, we've 331 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: heard how many times now that the talk is that 332 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: perhaps bench Joseph puts all his linebackers, all his inside linebackers, 333 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: is just kind of flood the position, get all of 334 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: them out there together, just because of the talent of 335 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 1: a Hicks, Campbell and Simmons. Yeah, and you know, I 336 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: know that there's been a lot of talk and people think, 337 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, some teams are playing possible because there was 338 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: no preseason and really the red and white practice, I 339 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: mean they were going to show anything there. But when 340 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: you look at it, it's a standpoint of you know, 341 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: you go into these games and you know you got 342 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: you got to go in there with, you know, the 343 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,360 Speaker 1: confidence and stuff like that. But I just think when 344 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: you look at the three inside linebackers, Craig you know, 345 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: you know, has been getting reps with the defensive backs, 346 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: but I think he's more of a front seven guy. Obviously, 347 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: they're slow playing at inside linebacker, but they could go 348 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: two D lineman and then bringing their sub packages, and 349 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: I gotta think he's gonna be on. I mean, you 350 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: can line them next to Jordan Phillips, you can line 351 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: them up that's Zach Allen. So we'll have to wait 352 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: and see. But you know, I think people are curious 353 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: to see what a snap count's going to be for 354 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: the first month of the season. But you know, Michael, 355 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: you know, when they drafted him, talked about him being 356 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: a starter. Kime said, you know, he should be a starter. 357 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: But you got Campbell and you got Hicks, and those 358 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: are two veteran guys that have done it. We haven't 359 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: seen that yet from Simmons. Yeah, And I think people 360 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: forget remember free agency came first, so Campbell was already 361 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: here and then the draft happened. It's not the other 362 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: way around. It's not like, oh, why do they draft 363 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: Simmons because they had Campbell or why do they sign 364 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 1: Campbell because they had Simmons. Nuts. Look this team, we 365 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: know last year at inside linebacker, Hicks turned to his right, 366 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: turned to his left, and it was almost like a 367 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: different player every couple of weeks. So hopefully that position 368 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: is solidified. And I don't know how Hicks feels about this, 369 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: but maybe he doesn't have to be on the field 370 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: for every single snap like he was in twenty nine. Yeah, 371 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, the thing is you want to make sure 372 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: these guys are fresh in the fourth quarter, you know. 373 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm sure he wants to play every 374 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: single snap, and you know he'd love to make the 375 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or you know, get concerned for All Pro 376 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: whether's first or second team. But I think he'll be 377 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: fresher in the second half of the season, just like 378 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 1: they all were. Will be in Campbell. He's making a 379 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: nice chunk of cash this here, so we'll see what 380 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: his future is. But he's done it. He's a really 381 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: good open field tackler. He can cover tight ends. So 382 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 1: I think when you look at it, Murphy in their 383 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 1: base defense, teams are going three wide, eleven personnel. He'll 384 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: be inside. But I think if teams want to try 385 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: to spread you out, you got Murphy, Campbell and Baker 386 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: that could cover tight ends. And I think Buddha mentioned 387 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: that that della a game plan for him. It's not 388 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: going to be just one guy. Last note here on 389 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 1: the Cardinals depth chart, and it's something that Kingsbury addressed 390 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: this morning and Andy Isabella not only the first guy 391 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 1: up on the list as far as kick return but 392 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 1: punt return as well, with Chase Edmonds the backup kick 393 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: returner and Kirk the backup punt returner, but it's Isabella 394 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: as a punt returner that got a lot of the 395 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: attention earlier today. And according to Kingsbury, Isabella has done 396 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: a nice job. Quote, we feel very comfortable within back 397 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: there returning. You know, he has that speed that if 398 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: he gets a crease, it's over. With his fielding in 399 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: the punts was phenomenal all camp and so we feel 400 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: really good with him being back there unquote. And I 401 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: think this is what we all hoped for with Andy 402 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: Isabella and specifically trying to find a way to get 403 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: him on the field, try to find a way to 404 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,200 Speaker 1: utilize his speed. If he's unable to crack the top 405 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: three wide receivers are concerned. Yeah, and you know we've 406 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,959 Speaker 1: seen the difference from last year body catching, you know, 407 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: to versus catching the ball with your hands, bringing it 408 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: into your chest. You know, everything's on film, so they 409 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: must feel he's blew it. I think Christian Kirk's are 410 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: natural doing it. You know, I'd be curious to see what, 411 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin, if he's active on game day, could 412 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: do in the kick return game. But you know, Andy Isabella, 413 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: you know a lot of people say we're going to 414 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: try to justify where they drafted him. Now he's earned it. 415 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: And the fact that I agree with Cliff, we got 416 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk a couple of years ago. He was close 417 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: to breaking one. Once you get to that scene, I 418 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: don't know if anybody can catch him. And the fact 419 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: that teams are kicking the ball a little bit higher 420 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: out of the end zone, so he may not have 421 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: the same opportunities on kickoff return. But once again, if 422 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: he gets past that first layer, I mean, instead of 423 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 1: just taking that the twenty five, you get the forty 424 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: five yard line, one first down, you're over midfield. So 425 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: I really think he can help him on teams in 426 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: that scen area where I think they want to see 427 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: some improvement. Well, anything would be, to be honest with you, 428 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: would be an improvement, especially on punt return. This team 429 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: averaged between Farrell Cooper and Christen Kirk seven yards a return. 430 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: Now fielding punts, it's not easy, and the number one 431 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: goal is to make the catch cleanly, secure the football 432 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: so your offense can get on the field. But if 433 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: you can just get a little bit momentum from that 434 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: punt return, I think it would help so much this season. 435 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: And I think it will give Isabella Moore confidence knowing 436 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: you know I belong here. I can play in this 437 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: league because you can't teach speed, and we think he's 438 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,160 Speaker 1: the fastest guy on the team. I think he showed 439 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: that last year with Kyler Murray. So you can tell 440 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: field position, and that's something that Jeff Rogers, to me, 441 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: has been a point of emphasis on. You know, nothing 442 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: against seven and a half yards, but if you get 443 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: to fifteen or eighteen and you're not gonna do it, 444 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: like I said, they're going to kick it high. And 445 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, you know, the two biggest roles for 446 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: me on punt return is possessed the ball and if 447 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: you're in your ten yard with your heels and cleats there, 448 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: if a guy's running down and you think it's going 449 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: to run in the end zone, you have to hit 450 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: that guy because you don't want anybody to down with 451 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: the one or two because now you're looking at you know, 452 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: basically field position and it's tough to get out of 453 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: your own end zone. You don't want any holding penalties 454 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: because that could be a safety. You know, want Kyler 455 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: Murray throwing that screen passage Adavian Clowney. So I think 456 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: it will give Isabelle's more confidence that they're putting more 457 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: on his plate. Burd Gang, if you haven't done so already, 458 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: updates the latest version of the Cardinals mobile app today. 459 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: The update features and all new redesign homescreen experience. Visitasy 460 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 1: cardinals dot com slash app for more. As we continue 461 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: here on this Wednesday edition of Cards covered two presented 462 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, focusing on 463 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks here the Cardinals and the forty nine ers 464 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray addressed in the media earlier today, he'll 465 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: do it every single week on Wednesdays, and we talked 466 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: about him being a team captain, but it's the other 467 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: thing that is at the forefront of not only his mind, 468 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: but the coaching staff's mind, and of course something that 469 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about, and that is avoiding the negative plays. 470 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: Murray was asked specifically about the sack total. He was 471 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:16,640 Speaker 1: sacked forty eight times, the most in the league. Pro 472 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: Football Focus put twenty three of those sacks on Murray himself. 473 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: But it's what Murray had to say that he believes, 474 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: quote that's definitely the goal with regard to reducing the 475 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: number of sacks and his words MJ and half. So 476 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about going from forty eights to maybe the 477 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: low twenties. Well, you know, that's one thing I like 478 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: about Kyler Murray and every player should do it. After 479 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: the season go back and you know they have eyepads 480 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: where they can give all their cut ups to him. 481 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: And you know, he, as you said, Pro Football Focus 482 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: pointed out twenty three round him and knows where they 483 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: when they got into those negative plates when he was 484 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: taking sacks obviously trying to avoid the she never really 485 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 1: had that big hit. Sometimes he would try to run 486 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: out of bounce to you know, maybe stop the clock 487 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 1: and get in the field goal range. But the fact 488 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: is that, yeah, that that has to come down. And 489 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 1: we talk about the defense going from twenty nine to 490 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: thirtieth to fifteenth. We talk about you know, the Cardinals 491 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 1: passing game probably being in the top ten or top 492 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: seven that's been based on the roster. So yeah, I 493 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 1: think Murray realizes. And another thing that sticks out to me, 494 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 1: you know, he says pre snap read he's much more 495 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 1: comfortable reading the defense. And that's important because Patrick Mahomes 496 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: he admitted, and I give him credit, it took us 497 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 1: third year to start reading defenses. And you know, if 498 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 1: when you can, the game slows down, and it's going 499 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: to be a huge for him because he's not going 500 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,399 Speaker 1: to feel the pressure. And I think if the offensive line, 501 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, I've always talked about these guys were better 502 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,639 Speaker 1: run blockers, but if you look at Pro Football Focus 503 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: last year, they were better in pass protection overall, even 504 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: though they rushed over five yards to carry. So I 505 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: think Murray when he goes back and critiques himself, he 506 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: sees that. And you know, the good news is he 507 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,359 Speaker 1: put a little more weight on bulk on his upper body. 508 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: He's always had like thick legs, and I don't think 509 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: it's going to slow him down. So I think he's 510 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: going to pick his spots. But I'd like to see 511 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: them keep him in the pocket and allow him to 512 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: throw the ballt on the field because of the quick 513 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 1: release and how accurate he is on some of those 514 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: intermediate routs. His natural progression from year one to year 515 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: two not only reading defenses, but understanding offensive protection schemes 516 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 1: his own offensive line where are they is supposed to 517 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: be on the field, so he knows where to move 518 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: left or right and doesn't run into a j R. 519 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: Sweete like he did last season. The other thing Kingsbury 520 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: pointed out is, yes, you're going to get sacked, and yes, 521 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 1: most of these sacks happen on third down, especially if 522 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,479 Speaker 1: you're in third and long. What can't happen this season 523 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: is those negative plays, those sacks on first down and 524 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: second down, because then it puts the entire series behind 525 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,640 Speaker 1: the eight ball. Very mentioned that specifically that if they 526 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: figure it out, be smarter with the football, throw the 527 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: ball away, and worry about second and ten as opposed 528 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: to second and sixteen. Well, you know how I feel 529 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: it's okay to put in the NFL. I mean, you know, obviously, 530 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 1: if you're trailing, you know, you know, sometimes you gotta 531 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,719 Speaker 1: go hurry up to steal a possession. Sometimes you need 532 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: to get a special teams touchdown the flip flip position. 533 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I like the fact that he's 534 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 1: able to critique himself, and obviously that's something they're working on. 535 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: But I just think he's much more comfortable in this offense. 536 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: He knows like the back of his hand, and you know, 537 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: curious to see how Kingsbury is going to roll off 538 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: this offense because I think what they want to do 539 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: is they want to, you know, hurry up. They're not 540 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 1: the sun's seven and seconds or less. They're not going 541 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: to stat the ball with twenty five seconds on a 542 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: play clock, but they're not going to allow the defense 543 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: to set up. And so I think in by going 544 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,239 Speaker 1: with hurry up, you don't huddle, and you force your 545 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: opponents where they can't make up two changes, so you're 546 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: looking at a matchups. So I think they're going to 547 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 1: be much better in that area. And teams are throwing 548 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: the ball Craig more on first and second down. It's 549 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: usually was let's get three or four yards on first 550 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: let's six seven and six or seven and then you know, 551 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 1: three yards a cloud of dust on third down and 552 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: get a first down. But no, I think he's going 553 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: to take some chances and we'll see some design runs too. 554 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: But I just hope that you know, the progress he makes, 555 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: it's going to show up on game day. Yeah, it 556 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago. It was run run, and then 557 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: if you had two on the third down, pass And 558 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, we've seen complete drives where 559 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: a quarterback is out of his shotgun and just throwing 560 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: it nine ten times for a touchdown. It's it's amazing 561 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: how the game has evolved. And I think credit that 562 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 1: to a lot of the quarterbacks in the mode of 563 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 1: a Kyler Murray and more athletic. They can do more 564 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: out of the pocket and don't just have to be 565 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: that stationary quarterback. They can't move, and if they are moving, 566 00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: it's left or right, just to and the ball off. Yeah, 567 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: and I think you know, the Cardinals were one of 568 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: maybe three or four teams last year it was one 569 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent within went fourt on fourth down. Well, you 570 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: know they're fourth and two. I want to say, in 571 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: fourth and four, But maybe you're not sitting there where 572 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: you automatically get a first down. So maybe the cliff 573 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: show and he's willing to push the envelope again, he 574 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: can get an extra possession that goes a long way. 575 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: But maybe there'll be more manageable third downs. You gotta 576 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: stay away from third and ten, third and thirteen. And 577 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: we watched the game together and I know fans go, 578 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: well they throw it before the sticks. Well, at that point, 579 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: you're just playing field position. You got to rely on 580 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: Andy Leeda, you know, a deep punt, good hang time, 581 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: and hopefully it drops between the five and ten yard line. 582 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: But you know, you just can't force it though, and 583 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to do that. And it's 584 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: a big test this Sunday against a very good front 585 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: of the forty nine ers. We can get more specifically 586 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: into those matchups later this week. But on the flip side, 587 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: the Cardinals facing Jimmy Garoppolo, Jimmy G on Sunday, the 588 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: quarterback who took the forty nine ers to the doorstep 589 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: of the Lombardi Trophy. But people just kind of forget 590 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: about that and only focus on his struggles and the 591 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. But if you talk to Cliff Kingsburry, Jimmy 592 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: G is not only a good quarterback or a great quarterback, 593 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: but an excellent quarterback because he's been so successful against 594 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Yeah, if you go back to that game 595 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: in Week one against the Patriots, No, Tom Brady, no 596 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: Rom Garkowski. I think Nate Soldier was out in garoppolo. 597 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: He's three and oh against the Cardinals. Now, last year 598 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: he had eight touchdowns, two interceptions. We know that Kyler 599 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 1: Murray was the only quarterback that put up over one 600 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: hundred quarterback rating the entire season against that Niners defense. 601 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: Again like the rush four and drop back and you know, 602 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: but Jimmy ge had will throw you an interception or two. 603 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: But over the course of the three games he's played, 604 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: he's thrown for a thousand yards. His quarterback rating one nineteen. 605 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: He's only been sacked five times. In his yards per 606 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: attempt is close to nine. So that's pretty impressive. I 607 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: could see why Kingsbury is a fan, and he told 608 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: that to the uh, the San Francisco forty nine ers media. 609 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,240 Speaker 1: It's this morning on his conference call. But you know, 610 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: I think that you know, their offense goes with a 611 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: lot of motion and shifting. They're gonna rely on running 612 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: back by committee, and then obviously the George Kittle is 613 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 1: going to be a bunch of We'll get into Trent 614 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: Williams against a you know, Chandler Jones later in a week. 615 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Because this is not the first time they faced him, 616 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: and he actually said he's he's three hundred and thirty 617 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: five pounds, ten pounds heavier than he was when he 618 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: played in twenty eighteen. So he's gonna have to try 619 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: to get some weight off. And I'm wondering, but just 620 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: about conditioning, you know, I think guys are gonna be 621 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: jacked up. They're gonna have to create their own momentum 622 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: on the sidelines. I think, you know, big play will 623 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: will create that, but conditioning, tackling and penalties. It is 624 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: because we haven't had a preseason. Yeah, I wonder how 625 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: many guys get winded early in that contest and have 626 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: to tap out a little bit for a snappy. You 627 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: could see some guys cramping now, Grant, when you play 628 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: in Florida, whether it's Jacksonville, Miami or Tampa, if you 629 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: don't want to, you don't want to see that on 630 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: the schedule in September because you can cramp up and 631 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: you can be in great shape. You know. Obviously they 632 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:18,720 Speaker 1: have different liquids for guys. You know, obviously Gatorade and 633 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: some other stuff, but you know, everything's legal. But you 634 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 1: look for that in just week one across the NFL, 635 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: especially those hot and human games in the East Coast. 636 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: Here's Kingsbury's quote to the forty nine ers media on 637 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: his conference call. Quote, both times we played Jimmy, he 638 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: was awesome. He played as good as anyone played against 639 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: us all year end quote eight touchdowns, two interceptions. So yeah, 640 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: when you look at the film Jimmy Garoppolo against the 641 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: forty nine Ers, he looks like an All Pro. It's 642 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 1: the struggles that he had in other games and then 643 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: of course in the postseason. But you do need to 644 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: have a solid quarterback in the forty nine Ers, even 645 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: though they admitted this offseason there was a slight flirtation 646 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady, but they settled on Garoppolo and of 647 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: course a strong running game to back up their quarterback. Well, 648 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, Brady grew up in that area and so 649 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: you probably love to follow the footsteps of Joe Montana 650 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: and Steve Young, But you know, you got to give 651 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: John Lynch and Kyle Shannon a lot of credit because 652 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: you know they had you know, Nick Mullins and C. J. 653 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: Bethard and some other quarterbacks and that's not going to 654 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: do in the NFL. Those guys could be decent backups, 655 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: but you have to have a frontline guy, and you 656 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: can build a case he as a franchise quarterback just 657 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: based on how much they paid him. And you know, 658 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought it up. He played well for 659 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: three and a half quarters Patrick Mahomes and obviously the 660 00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: Chiefs defense played well in that fourth quarter. But you know, 661 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: it's all you can ask is put the team in 662 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: position to win games. Well, they had a ten point lead. 663 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 1: I mean that was someone's responsibility. I mean, I know 664 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: it's eleven players on offense, but let's give him credit 665 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: where credit is due. And of course the Chiefs were 666 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: just a little bit better. Maybe that falls more on 667 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 1: the forty nine ers shoulders, but they had a ten 668 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 1: point lead in the fourth quarter and then that's when 669 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: things fell apart. But it's what have you done for 670 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 1: me lately? It's not the run up the regular season 671 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,320 Speaker 1: and postseason. So I get it from a fans perspective, 672 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: But good quarterbacks, dare I say, Elite quarterbacks are hard 673 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: to find. And whether you think he's a top ten 674 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 1: or top fifteen quarterback, I would put him. If you're 675 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: going to separate into tiers, I would put him in 676 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: the upper tier and separate him against some of those 677 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,719 Speaker 1: other quarterbacks, because all I care about with the quarterback 678 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: what's your one loss record? And he has a very 679 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: good one loss record. And you know a lot of 680 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: the old school football commentators, analysts, they'll tell you that 681 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 1: that when lost total shouldn't be just on the quarterback. 682 00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: You know, I look at touchdown's interception ratio. What's his 683 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: completion percentage and against the Cardinals has been like sixty 684 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: seven percent, even seventy percent. And then what's your yard 685 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: yards per attempt? Because if you're getting close to nine yards, 686 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: you're moving the sticks. Yeah, I mean, listen, you know, 687 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 1: maybe in a couple of years we'll claim that Carlo 688 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: Murray is the best quarterback in the division. I'll take 689 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 1: him over Jerikoff, Russell Wilson. You know, he could be 690 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: an MVP. Unfortunately he's never had an MVP vote. And 691 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: then Jimmy Garoppolo. I mean, just based on Kyler's being 692 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: a dual threat, I would take Kyler Murray over Jimmy Garoppolo. 693 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: Oh I would too, and that's just because said, yeah, yeah, 694 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a stronger arm and what he is able to 695 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: do with his feet, whether or not he does decide 696 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 1: to run, it's the threats being able to tuck it 697 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: and run and not just run for a first down, 698 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: but take that with four yards and turn them into eight, 699 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,280 Speaker 1: maybe even twelve yards, and keep moving to the sticks 700 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 1: and keep putting pressure on opposing defenses. Well, and if 701 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: people are listening to this conversation or like pumped the brakes, no, 702 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean Russell Wilson took him the two back to 703 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: back Super Bowls. Okay, they were one play away from 704 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: beating the Niners. They would have won the division had 705 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: to buy in the first round that the play on 706 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: the goal line. Garoppolo has taking his team to the 707 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Jerikoff has taking his tomb to the Super Bowl. 708 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: Jerikoff and the Rams are coming off three consecutive seasons. 709 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: But I believe upside. And I'm not saying just the future, 710 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: but I would take Kyler Murray over three of those quarterbacks. 711 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: I'll give Russell Wilson the odd the odd because of 712 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: what he's done and his win lost record, and hopefully 713 00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray will be that guy in the future, just 714 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: based on the size and being able to extend plays 715 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: with his legs well, real quick, Wilson Murray, Garoppolo golf 716 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 1: correct for me. That's how the fack up in the division. Yeah, 717 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: and you got to give you know, golf. He you know, 718 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: he led him to the super Bowl. But you know, 719 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: I think they got exposed. And you know, I was 720 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: talking to a former head coach recently and I said, 721 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to see more twelve personnel. He said, 722 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,160 Speaker 1: they got Cooper Cup. Dad, don't be surprised. They go 723 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: with the loving personnel running back by committee and they 724 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,160 Speaker 1: feel like they've addressed their offensive line. But I think Garoppolo, 725 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I think Goff needs like a perfect game 726 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: to be effective. Now, obviously, no quarterback likes to get hit. 727 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a little gunshot, but in the right system, 728 00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: I think he can succeed. Yeah, the Rams got their 729 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: own challenge ahead this weekend, going against the Dallas Cowboys. 730 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: Heck of a way to start off the regular season. 731 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,520 Speaker 1: But hey, you can say the same thing about the Cardinals. 732 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,160 Speaker 1: You're going against not only the division champions, but the 733 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: reigning NFC conference champions and the San Francisco forty nine. 734 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: Should be a fun matchup, and we're just getting started. 735 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: As far as diving into the particulars have you obviously 736 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: take a look and stuff that I send you. Sometimes 737 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 1: it makes the air. Sometimes it's more just conversation for 738 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: us to build a topic. But do you see the 739 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Niners going thirteen and three? No, just because I think 740 00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for any team, even it wouldn't 741 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: surprise me if the team within the NFC West doesn't 742 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: win ten games, just because of the parody or what 743 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: we hope to Again, on paper, think that this division 744 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 1: could be just a lot of beating each other up 745 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: to where the winner certainly has earned it, but not 746 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: might not have that top one or two seed. I'm 747 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of Rams finishing, you know, maybe eight 748 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: and eight, seven and nine, and that would be their 749 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: first season under McVeigh. I see the Cardinals between eight 750 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: and nine. I see the Seahawks and Niners between ten 751 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: and eleven. So I don't think anyone's going to run 752 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: away with the division. And you know something we don't 753 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: talk about a lot is you know the Niners, they're 754 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a first play schedule and that's probably why 755 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 1: now the Cowboys didn't win the division last year was Eagles, 756 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: and obviously, you know, you play different divisions every year, 757 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: but you know, I could assume that the forty Niners 758 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: are gonna play the Saints at some point, so you know, 759 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: the Cardinals benefit from that. But there's no easy game 760 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,360 Speaker 1: in the NFL. We know it. You know, you can 761 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: look at the matchups, you can look at the odds. 762 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,320 Speaker 1: The old saying is any given Sunday, and you know 763 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: teams got to avoid losing streets, you know. So, yeah, 764 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 1: I think the division is going to be very competitive, 765 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: and we've talked about it's time to jump the rams 766 00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: and worst case scenarios split in the division go three 767 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 1: and three. You'd like to scratch out of road winning 768 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 1: week one, but you got to take care of business 769 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 1: and kind of protect the nest like they did in 770 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: the past. 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This is Wednesday of Game we still 777 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: got two more days before we actually kind of get 778 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,719 Speaker 1: towards Sunday, but practice on Thursday and Friday, and then 779 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: the Cardinals will head off to the Bay Area to 780 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 1: play the forty miners in Week one. Yeah, I'm looking 781 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: forward to, you know, getting the different matchups. You know, 782 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: who is Patrick Peterson covered? And they got some injuries 783 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: with their number one wide receiver and Brandon Aiyuk, we'll 784 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: see Abutivo Samuel he come off NFL injured list, and 785 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: you know, we'll see, so who's Richard Sherman covering, Who's 786 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson covered, Who's you know, who's covering the tight 787 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: ends on George Kittle. So we'll get into that. But 788 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't want to bury the league, Craig. But you know, 789 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: by popular demand, our podcast used to be three days 790 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 1: a week and now it's going to be five days 791 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: a week. So we appreciate everyone tuning in, and you know, 792 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,359 Speaker 1: hopefully you go to iTunes or Spotify and you can 793 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,600 Speaker 1: you can rank us, and we just love the feedback 794 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:48,239 Speaker 1: and we'll get into more cards cover two questions. You know, 795 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,440 Speaker 1: we'll send out the hashtag. But I'm really happy that 796 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,480 Speaker 1: we're going to get a chance to spread our wings 797 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: a little bit further. 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