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Speaker 1: Live from our Tommy John Home Studios. I am Chad Mellman,

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Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. This is our

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night episode in which we review the faves five

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Speaker 1: We just finished watching the Rams game, which was an

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Speaker 1: extreme cruciating beat. We'll get into it because they actually

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Speaker 1: played better than the Packers the whole game. Goddamn kickers, Kickers.

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Speaker 1: What an insane, ugly, infuriating, tense, exhausting and to all

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Speaker 1: three games we had in our early and late window

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Speaker 1: that we put in the contest. Don't forget we have

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Speaker 1: the Steelers minus two and a half tonight, New Orleans

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Speaker 1: plus five and a half tomorrow. In these games, there'll

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Speaker 1: been a cavalcade of bad quarterback play from quarterbacks. We

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Speaker 1: ultimately a one and two start in games in which

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Speaker 1: two with a different combination of games. We'll break it

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Speaker 1: right now because my brain has melted from some of

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Speaker 1: the games today. Here's a little stat we've been tracking

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Speaker 1: and talking about it in all the podcasts. How the

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Speaker 1: underdogs of six plus points are doing this season now

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Speaker 1: eleven and eight straight up sixteen two and one against

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Speaker 1: the spread this season, the first time since nineteen sixty

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Speaker 1: dogs of six or more are over five hundred straight

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Speaker 1: up through five weeks with the best against the spread.

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Speaker 1: When page one of those games was one of our

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Speaker 1: last ones out Today, we will get to that crazy

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Speaker 1: crazy day. First up, Baltimore's Cincinnati. Look, this was a

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Speaker 1: kick in the dick because the Bengals were up by

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Speaker 1: Like there was a point where Lamar Jackson bobbled a

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Speaker 1: it thirty one to twenty eight. In my notes, I wrote,

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Speaker 1: no one can stop anyone. The next series, Jamar Chase

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks because that was so much fun. I mean,

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Speaker 1: And like, what's so frustrating about this game? Burrow is

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Speaker 1: because look in the overtime Lamar Jackson fumble, they get

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Speaker 1: I know everybody thinks fifty yard field goals are gimmes now,

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Speaker 2: No, I've said thought as you. I was just thinking

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Speaker 2: it's a forty yarder, not a fifty yarder. And what

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Speaker 2: It's also the best of the number, right, Like the

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Speaker 1: Well, look that I'm glad you said that, because I

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Speaker 2: Says, yeah, but push pushes hurt just as bad, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, and so at least a push you don't lose,

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Speaker 2: That was the one team we talked about switching out

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Speaker 1: Right, we did before.

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Speaker 2: all all the games we had, that was the one

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Speaker 2: the day. It was just bad luck.

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Speaker 1: It was It was really bad luck. And these half

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Speaker 1: unconvinced me the pregame show this morning, and we talked

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Speaker 1: when we put it in on Friday, and by today

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Speaker 2: That was like that that game was dead. We should

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Speaker 2: have lost that game, Yeah, CJ he whatever. Whatever. They

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Speaker 2: He looked totally uncomfortable, totally lost. Once Nico Collins left

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Speaker 2: that game, Yes, something shifted that offense where he just

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Speaker 2: most likely just got a concussion and somehow yes talked

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Speaker 2: and I was like, okay, if they get a touchdown here,

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Speaker 2: me and you, I just thought me and you were dead.

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Speaker 2: And you know, luckily the defense held. You could see

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Speaker 2: Josh just wasn't right, like you know, he didn't didn't

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Speaker 2: and then you know, once again came down to a kicker.

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Speaker 2: Houston put them in the position to get the CJ

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Speaker 2: That was that was a sweat once he kicked that throw,

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Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, at least at least the right

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's actually why I'm not so bummed about the

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen was downright terrible. Nine of thirty one hundred

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean. That's why I don't know if

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Speaker 1: Well, either I was going to say, even before Josh

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Speaker 2: Well, the key is to be really dumb on your

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Speaker 2: I saw them give him the test on the sidelines,

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, you're right, that's a question work for

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Speaker 1: In the second half of that game, after going up

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Speaker 1: I just want to be clear about what they were.

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Speaker 1: The Texans went they were They went up to twenty

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Speaker 1: and they end up getting the punt, getting into field

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Speaker 1: What the f were the Bills thinking? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think they were thinking, well, they have three time outs,

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Speaker 2: you just said, so, yeah, pretty bizarre, But again it

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Speaker 2: out looked like Josh Allen there on those three throws.

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Speaker 2: That's another reason I didn't get it. It's like, you know,

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Speaker 2: Now you're putting the ball in his hands again. I

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty crazy, the fact they passed three straight times

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Speaker 2: and that in that spot.

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Speaker 1: Last game on the board that we've bet so far

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Speaker 1: today for the contest was the Rams and the Packers.

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Speaker 1: This was our big balls, I think, and first one

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Speaker 1: we've lost this year, and we shouldn't have lost it. Like,

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Speaker 1: the Rams were dominating this game, and they were dominating

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Speaker 1: The problem was and like Sean McVay, you knew from

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Speaker 1: this game. And the problem and then the Rams were dominating.

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Speaker 1: They had twenty plays on the Packer's side of the

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Speaker 2: This bet, and we both knew, right we've been betting

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Speaker 2: long enough. As soon as you missed that, it's like,

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Speaker 2: all right now you need a lot of things to

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Speaker 2: break your way to make up for that point, because

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Speaker 2: that's how it is when you bet these dogs. But

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Speaker 2: you're right. In that first half, I was like, this

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Speaker 2: and you know, they come out, this is on my

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Speaker 2: down to the twenty five and Williams fumbles for the Rams.

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Speaker 2: So again they're thirteen to ten. Drive in the field,

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Speaker 2: they fumble, it's like three four plays Green Bay. You know,

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Speaker 2: big plays, goes down the field, score another touchdown. And

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Speaker 2: that was my fear was we couldn't have Stafford playing

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Speaker 2: from behind with this team. We needed them to keep

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Speaker 2: running the ball and that's when they were going to

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Speaker 2: be dominant this game. Once he got behind, he needs

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Speaker 2: to start making big plays. That's where Stafford kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, throws it up for people, and that's what

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Speaker 2: he did right, he had a bad turnover, So yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's the.

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Speaker 1: Next series, had a bad turnover again in the packer's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're just a really bad team. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the Rams are really bad and even in the game

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Speaker 2: green Bay took advantage of it. And like you said,

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Speaker 2: once they misstok your point, we still had a chance.

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Speaker 2: They went, they went for the two pointer, and you know,

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Speaker 2: knew they had a bad set on defense, came back

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Speaker 2: out in a different look, and they stuffed the Rams

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Speaker 2: on a reverse. So a day where all of our

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Speaker 2: bets basically came down to kickers and two pointers, we're

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Speaker 2: also a day where it's like we easily could have

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Speaker 2: if you're ready to get to it, was just thank

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Speaker 2: god Houston covered because I would have been a real

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Speaker 2: jackass if we were zero and three right now when

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Speaker 2: I made you switch out Arizona.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well look, thank god we didn't put in the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: we didn't put in the base.

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Speaker 2: No, we're never going to contest.

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Speaker 1: And I'm proud of us actually, And we didn't take

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Speaker 2: Story because I remember you liked Seattle and the Browns

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Speaker 2: and both of them. I like, now that I talked

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Speaker 2: to you off it, I was just like, I bet

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Speaker 2: And then Seattle. I was just like, there's something fishy

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Speaker 2: about this line no neighbors. I didn't understand what that

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Speaker 2: did the books know. The books know every teaser, everything

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Speaker 2: was tied to that Seattle team. I think they were

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Speaker 2: number one two. Any people left in their survivor contest

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just realized I told a friend

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Speaker 2: I think everyone did. It was the spot no neighbors.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, you know what.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, for I think for anybody left, it really

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Speaker 1: don't feel that bad. What you want to what I

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Speaker 1: want to talk about? What you want to talk about Arizona?

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Speaker 1: I want to I want to go back to the

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Speaker 1: at three and a half. If I had, it would

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Speaker 1: have been stupid. And if I had, if the game

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Speaker 1: and end of the exact same way, I wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: deserved to have won that game.

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Speaker 2: Those are the best when you do win. Those the

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Speaker 2: ones you don't deserve.

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Speaker 1: But your comment to me was, don't get cocky. And

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Speaker 1: then I said to you, we got to bet Arizona

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Speaker 1: and a half. These are the numbers we play, and

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Speaker 1: then quote, this is what we do. I feel like

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Speaker 2: I didn't, though I saw their reasoning. And again when

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Speaker 2: it was when you had a blocked field goal for

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Speaker 2: and it's twenty three to ten, you get it. You're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: this is why so many people are warning me about

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Speaker 2: that number and to stay away. But what they don't

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Speaker 2: understand is in the year of twenty twenty four, if

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Speaker 2: you're a seven point dog, you're gonna win outright. Don't

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Speaker 2: really matter if you get a block kick. The other

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Speaker 2: team's kicker is going to break his leg and it's

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Speaker 2: gonna change the whole dynamic. I don't think they scored

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Speaker 2: a single point after that field goal made by their

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Speaker 2: their punter, like the punter kicked it. I think they

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Speaker 2: got it to twenty three points, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: It was why we loved, like you said, why we

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Speaker 2: nine ers didn't play that well. The Cardinals were getting

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Speaker 2: the tide flipped, and then it just got really stupid

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Speaker 2: they have a chance to somehow figure out a way

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Speaker 2: to win this game out right. Yeah, that's that's a

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Speaker 2: bad loss for the forty nine ers, right, A ten

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Speaker 2: point lead might have been the fourth quarter. Yeah, at home,

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Speaker 2: It's just Kyler definitely played better than he had the

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Speaker 2: previous three four weeks, probably since Week two, and that

434
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Speaker 2: was a game they needed because people like me and

435
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: a lot of other people are just like you know,

436
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: especially when they were getting blown out. It's just like Kyler,

437
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 2: he's so inconsistent. But when he's on and he's running

438
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: the ball, like when he's using his legs as a threat,

439
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 2: the team is so different. And that's why I don't

440
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: get why some weeks he does in some weeks he doesn't.

441
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: Where it's like against the Commander, I think he rushed

442
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Speaker 2: for five yards might have been the second play of

443
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Speaker 2: the game. Against the forty nine ers, she ran for

444
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Speaker 2: that fifty yard touchdown. It's like that's his weapon. The

445
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: team needs to use it more. So, Yeah, someone and

446
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 2: you as well that bet futures market on This Cardinals

447
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: team definitely needed that one in a big way.

448
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Speaker 1: Trade McBride. One of the reasons why we liked the

449
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: Cardinals this week and that we felt Kyler could be

450
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 1: more consistent was because of Trey McBride coming back for

451
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Speaker 1: the first time in a few weeks, and look, he

452
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Speaker 1: had a massive play to start the game. He was

453
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Speaker 1: a great security blanket for Kyler on a bunch of plays.

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Speaker 1: Nine targets, six catches, fifty three yards. This was the

455
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Speaker 1: Cardinals team to me, at their best. We do have

456
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Speaker 1: to worry a little bit about a couple things here

457
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Speaker 1: before we get into the lines. Just looking bad at

458
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: some of these teams. How worried are we about CJ Stroud?

459
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,680
Speaker 1: He is not playing well and all the magic that

460
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: he had last year on third downs seems to have disappeared.

461
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 1: Maybe it's Nico Collins, maybe it's tanked out, maybe it's

462
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Speaker 1: Joe Mixon. But they've won games. They're four and one.

463
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Speaker 1: Either they're better than we think, or they're a winning

464
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Speaker 1: team that is winning ugly despite not playing well and

465
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Speaker 1: beating good teams. Or they're getting really lucky and they're

466
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Speaker 1: going to get their come up ince and CJ is

467
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: struggling and having a hard time seeing the same things

468
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Speaker 1: he saw last.

469
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Speaker 2: Year a little bit. But I think, I mean, you

470
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 2: talked about it coming in the year. Why I was

471
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Speaker 2: just telling people, you know, I end up giving in him.

472
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Speaker 2: Did bet the over on I think it was nine

473
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Speaker 2: and a half or maybe ten for this Houston team.

474
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Speaker 2: But my whole reason for being cautious was teams ad

475
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Speaker 2: just they watched the tape from last year and they

476
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Speaker 2: figure out, Okay, what does this QB not like to

477
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Speaker 2: do and what does he really like to do and

478
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Speaker 2: excel at and they forced him against that. So you know,

479
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 2: you can see how teams are playing in and they're

480
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: shielding it to that he can't roll out to his

481
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: right to throw the ball and the move anymore. Right.

482
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Speaker 2: They kind of let the defenders go way outside on

483
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Speaker 2: the pass rush so that he's forced the other side

484
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Speaker 2: to throw across his body, which he doesn't look like

485
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 2: he's comfortable with doing. But as a whole I think,

486
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Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of things in Houston offense

487
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 2: it feels like it's stupid, like the play callin wise

488
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe you have to go back and

489
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 2: watch more of it. But you know, it's hard to

490
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: criticize the team that's four and one, but you're right,

491
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: it's like it's a it's a foreign one that feels

492
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Speaker 2: like they're very lucky to be for and one where

493
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: they've had some things break their.

494
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Speaker 1: Way, not just a little Eagles four and one like

495
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Speaker 1: last year. Remember when the Eagles kept winning and winning

496
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 1: and when he then got exposed and like Jalen Hurts,

497
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: wasn't quite the quarterback he was the year before. There

498
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: was something missing, but they were a good team that

499
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: were getting the right bounces. It feels it feels a

500
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Speaker 1: little inflated to me.

501
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it feels like a team that I'm not

502
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Speaker 2: sure yet. I have to look see what they're playing

503
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 2: next week. But the team I'm gonna want to fade

504
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: next week is I'm guessing Houston's on the road. And

505
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 2: it's just we've seen even Chris Raybond talk about today,

506
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: his splits at home and away are massive, Like he's

507
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: way better as a QB, not just last year, but

508
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: it's continued into this seasons. He's struggled on the road

509
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: this season. So yeah, I think you're right bring that

510
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: up where it's like I told you, the biggest thing

511
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: I noticed that was the Nico Collins thing. They looked

512
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 2: like a completely different offense and obviously he take away

513
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Speaker 2: his number one running back running back in Joe Mixon.

514
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Speaker 2: Now you're taking away Nico Collins. Yeah, a second year

515
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 2: quarterback is going to struggle a little bit, right, he's

516
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: lost two big pieces to his success. So we'll see

517
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 2: what their their status is for the upcoming week. But

518
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Speaker 2: I can tell you right now I'm probably gonna be

519
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: betting against Houston. It's just that they don't It's kind

520
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,439
Speaker 2: of like the Chiefs thing. They just don't look right.

521
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 2: And the books knows the public are going to keep

522
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: coming on this team so they can keep bumping up.

523
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Speaker 2: I mean that was their first cover of the year, right,

524
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: and you know you said it best too, like when

525
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Speaker 2: it was plus one and a half. I me and

526
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: you were betting it pretty hard. I was feeling pretty

527
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 2: good about Houston when they flipped to a favorite, didn't like.

528
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: It made me a little uneasy. So yeah, there you go.

529
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Speaker 1: Uh they never make it easy. No, in the perfect

530
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Speaker 1: spot where you'd want to fade Houston, they're going to

531
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Speaker 1: go on the road as seven point favorites at the

532
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Speaker 1: New England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, God, that's gross.

534
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: So that when we get to week six lines, let's

535
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Speaker 1: just pile in because we got a huge road favorite

536
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Speaker 1: as a touchdown. The Patriots are as likely to win

537
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 1: this game as they are to cover this game, so.

538
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 2: It is actually correct this year. So I can't even

539
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: argue against it.

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00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: You know, think about that, all right, we got to

541
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Speaker 1: do a quick the other thing before we get to

542
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: that same thing with the Niners. Like the Niners keep

543
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: looking amazing. Brock Purty looks like he can do so

544
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: much and they're not actually following through in anything. And

545
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: some of it is injuries. That had really freaky injuries

546
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: this year that I do think have impacted them. But

547
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Speaker 1: they're two and three right now.

548
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: And again, he never lost coming into this year, he

549
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 2: was undefeated against the visual opponents. This year he's lost both.

550
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: He lost to the Rams and he just lost to Arizona.

551
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 2: And I mean it's it sounds lazy and simple, but

552
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 2: a graphic they kept putting up during the game was

553
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: last year they were nine for nine against that Arizona

554
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: team in the red zone with touchdowns, and in this game,

555
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: I think they what attacked.

556
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Speaker 1: Won for six. The last time I saw the graphic,

557
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: they were one for four and I can't remember how

558
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: many more times they made it.

559
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 2: So yeah, so I think right there, that's the big

560
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: issue for this team. But it's like they have they

561
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: have so much talent and perty is so good and

562
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 2: so comfortable, you know, in this game. His biggest weakness

563
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: was they had the hands up. You saw his size

564
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: a little bit coming to play here where it's like, Okay,

565
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: it's not the biggest deal. He's not six five, but

566
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 2: you saw they kept putting their hands up, and he

567
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: had two different tip passes right at the line though,

568
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: I think, did you have two picks off?

569
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well one of them went for a pick to

570
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: end the game, right, that one.

571
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: At the end of the game. So other than that,

572
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: the party man, he's he's really good. He is a

573
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: gamer like he has a couple of big time throws

574
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: that you're just you're just like, wow, but you're right.

575
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: Something something's a little off with this four nine ers team.

576
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 2: But it's so early in the year. It's like, you know,

577
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: as long as they can keep treading water, no team's

578
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: going to want to have to play them in the playoffs.

579
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 2: That there's just there's just so much talent for that

580
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 2: team across the board.

581
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Speaker 1: Quick scoot Roulette, because we did forget to include this

582
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Speaker 1: in our last episode. We did Simon, You're on Pittsburgh

583
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: tonight two and a half point favorites against the Cowboys.

584
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm on New Orleans at plus five and a half.

585
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: The truth is I meant to forget, so we could

586
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: be on these two teams and we could still include

587
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: it on Sunday and it would still be relevant for

588
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 1: the weekend ahead.

589
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: Are we about three and one or are we two

590
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 2: and two?

591
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're killing me. I've had a terrible year.

592
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: I think I'm one in three. You might be three

593
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: and one or two and two.

594
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: All right, cool toms.

595
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: We got to talk about some lines, like already, Simon, Yeah,

596
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: San Francisco is a three point favorite on the road

597
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: at Seattle. That's Thursday Night. Fortunately, we don't have to

598
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: take that because you kind of want to bet Thursday

599
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: Night favorites more than you might want to bet division dogs.

600
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 2: It's already minus one twenty two. I bet through six

601
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: to five.

602
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: So if we want to get it, get it now.

603
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: How about your Bears team going to London off to

604
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: big blow out win and the.

605
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Bears are one and a half point favorites these London teams.

606
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: We usually take the favorites, but aren't we supposed to

607
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: take the Jags at plus money before they flip to

608
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: a favorite.

609
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: Do you think that's what's going to happen?

610
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 2: I do, But that's a tricky one just because the

611
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 2: Bears they just look so good defensively right now, Well.

612
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: We don't have to rush like the Bears do look

613
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: amazing defensively.

614
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: I'm grabbing the plus one plus one fifteen plus one

615
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 2: twenty right now on the Jaguars money line, just in

616
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: case they do flip to a favorite.

617
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, dot of mine net. I'm looking at

618
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 1: the board right now. God, these games are just terrible.

619
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Speaker 1: What is sticking out to you?

620
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: I would say there's a couple of interesting lines. One

621
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: that jumps out right away. Ravens are at home minus

622
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: six and a half against Washington.

623
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you about that one.

624
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: How I mean, how do we not bet Washington? Like

625
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: that's the scariest part of the books. Put these numbers

626
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: and it's like they know exactly what I want to do,

627
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: professionals want to do, and what the betting public wants

628
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: to do. And the betting public right now is like

629
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 2: give me all I can to the Commanders team this

630
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: This Ravens defense seems like they can't stop really good offenses.

631
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 2: Right We've seen it time and time again. Now, So

632
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: that's that's an interesting number. That's a lot of respect

633
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: to a Ravens team. Maybe I'm maybe I'm thinking, maybe

634
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: I'm wrong thinking this way, but I'm grabbing the plus

635
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: six now plus six and a half now the commanders.

636
00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: I know it's more and our public sides and if eventually,

637
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: if we end up on the Ravens, we do. But

638
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: Chad knows my view on this. Once it gets above three,

639
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 2: I almost always fade Lamar, and this year I'm one

640
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: to Oh. I took the Raiders against him in this

641
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: exact spot, So I don't think the books. I said

642
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: same thing this week when I took Jane Daniels. Again,

643
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: I don't think the books caught up to it. But

644
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: even I don't know what the hell to do with it.

645
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: Like this kid is playing at such an insanely high level.

646
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: It's it's bizarre. Even Washington defense. Now, I mean they

647
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: dominated that offensive line in Cleveland. So yeah, it's a

648
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: bizarre world. So that one jumped out. Dallas Cowboys are

649
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: plus three against the Lions at home. Do we not

650
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Speaker 2: just take the Lions right now? At minus three? How

651
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Speaker 2: does this not go up?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially after tonight, especially.

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Speaker 2: After tonight that we think because we think Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 2: gonna win, and.

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Speaker 1: I think Detroit is finally starting to sort of recognize

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Speaker 1: its power and play to its ability. I loved them

657
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: last week against He was perfect. Jared Goff was perfect,

658
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: literally perfect Jared.

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Speaker 2: I don't need to talk about him. Detroit fans gotten

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00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 2: mad about him because we didn't bet that game, but

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00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: it was It was crazy how perfect he was against Seattle.

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Speaker 1: The Lions are playing fourteen games essentially indoors. You know,

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00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm counting this Cowboys game as indoor. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it'll be the roof will be closed or not,

665
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: but it's a fast field and ideal conditions. And I

666
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: think this team has a lot of confidence right now.

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00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: And I think they also recognize they got to keep

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00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: pace with Minnesota and if they can really be the

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00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: team to beat. They got a lead on Detroit, on

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00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: San Francisco, they got it on Philadelphia that you know,

671
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: they got to figure out. Like Washington, the questions are

672
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: still out there, so they got to keep winning to

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00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: keep pace. And I think it's a really good team

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Speaker 1: right now. So totally agree with you.

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00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, that division is brutal, though, I mean, even your

676
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: Bears teams we're saying they're the worst team in that division.

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00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 2: They're gonna be really good once they started playing divisional

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00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: games come November December. Like you just see it every week,

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00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: even Killer Williams, Like, you know, he did a couple

680
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: of things today that were really stupid, but overall, a

681
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: couple of his throws, a couple of his move like

682
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: his movement in the pocket, it's like it was pretty good. Yeah,

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00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: it looked really good. And I know it's against Carolina,

684
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: but it's like, still, that's stuff you want to see

685
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: him do. It doesn't matter how bad the team is.

686
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 2: It's like he made some big time throws in that matchup. So, yeah,

687
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 2: the lines, you're right, I think, you know, just at

688
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: this number. I hate being on a favorite, especially this

689
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: type of scenario. I know everyone that everyone's gonna be

690
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 2: betting them in this spot, but it's like, don't we

691
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 2: have to take this number? Isn't this a really good number?

692
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: It just minus three? I just if if the Steelers

693
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 2: roll tonight, if they win by ten, how does this

694
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: not get up the four and a half?

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00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: Yeall, it's moving immediately.

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00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's two other games that jump out to do

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00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: you see them or no?

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00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: Well, there's I'm curious what yours are gonna be. I

699
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: like Tampa Bay at two and a half against New Orleans.

700
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: I'm curious about tomorrow night. Obviously, I'm very tempted by

701
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots plus seven, just bet I'm already.

702
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. When you guys mentioned it a text a runner,

703
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: I was like, Oh, just go bet this for me?

704
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: Why not?

705
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: It's already minus one oh five, so it's gonna move

706
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: to six and a half very soon. I was the

707
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: one that stood out to me, to be honest.

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00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, So just a game that jumped out to me

709
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: is just this. The Bengals are minus three and a

710
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: half on Sunday Night against the Giants. Do you think

711
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 2: the public's gonna buy this Giants team? You think they're

712
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 2: gonna bet them? Or what? Do you what do you

713
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: think is happened with that number. I'm not to see

714
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: what your view of it would be.

715
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 1: I don't m it's a good question.

716
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: He's a funny line where it's like, I immediately want

717
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: to bet the Giants like this this since the defense

718
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: you talked about they're really bad. They're bad, Like when

719
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,840
Speaker 2: when will a back door not be open against them?

720
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 2: Even Carolina a terrible team almost backdoored them, So it's

721
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 2: like our reason for love and since he's all on

722
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, but you know, he's not gonna be able

723
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 2: to do what he did consistently in that game, Like

724
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 2: that was even for him, a fluky game.

725
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: And the Giants d line is really good.

726
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: That's why I loved about him coming to the year.

727
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: It's like, that's the only thing I could build my

728
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 2: hat on. Was like, what's what's why would I like

729
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: this team? It's like, how can they not be good

730
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 2: up front? They have so many good players that can

731
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: get to the quarterback and stop the run in their

732
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: front four. But yeah, I'm just shocked this this number

733
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: open plus three and a half. Clearly the books know

734
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: that people come in the Bengals, but you know, I

735
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 2: have this number two and a half. I thought they

736
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: would open it at three and get Bengals money then

737
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: move it up. But yeah, them opening up plus three

738
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 2: and a half on the Giants, I'll take a little

739
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: bit of that.

740
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: I think there's one more game that's semi interesting to me.

741
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I don't mind Green Bay minus.

742
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 2: Five green BA at home against the Cardinals.

743
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: Against the Cardinals, I like this to me.

744
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: Oh, right after that, Cardinals win.

745
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like that, Cardinals win.

746
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: Right.

747
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: The Packers escaped in a really tough spot in which

748
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,279
Speaker 1: they didn't play well. Jordan Love continues to get a

749
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: little bit better. He made some spectacular throws, he made

750
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: some really good runs. The Packers defense continues to be opportunistic.

751
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: The Cardinals continue to be the kind of team that

752
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: makes mistakes and puts themselves in position to have other

753
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: teams be opportunistic against them. I'm not afraid of the five,

754
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: and in fact, I think it might come down because

755
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: of how well the Cardinals played. But that was the spot,

756
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, like the Cardinals are the kind of team

757
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: where you know when they're going to be competitive against

758
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: the Niners on the road in the division as big dogs,

759
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 1: is when they're going to be competitive. And as you

760
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 1: pointed out, this game might be thirty to ten if

761
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers have a kicker, right.

762
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's interesting to open that a five point

763
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 2: dog in that spot. So yeah, it seems like the

764
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: books are getting a little bit a little bit more

765
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 2: respect that to this Backers team. I mean, you're right,

766
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 2: I can see this, I could h.

767
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: You think it'll go up?

768
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: It could I'm trying to think right now if this,

769
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: if this is going to be a big side but

770
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: that the public really likes. But I think people, if

771
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 2: you bet green Bay, aren't you feeling like you got

772
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,400
Speaker 2: away with one there? Like we talked about totally.

773
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Yeah, so it could, it could

774
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: go down like but I think I'm going to like

775
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: green Bay this week, just eyeballing it right now, Like

776
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: we get to Tuesday and I'm probably gonna have a

777
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:05,959
Speaker 1: different opinion.

778
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 2: Well, they cleaned up. This is the four bets I'm on.

779
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: I took the Giants home dog plus three and a half,

780
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: taking the Lions on the road minus three against the Cowboys,

781
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: taking Washington plus six and a half on the road

782
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,279
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00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,680
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