WEBVTT - Pate State x Solid Verbal…CFB Roundtable 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:22.880 Yeah, it doesn't look normal, but that's okay. We do 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:25.920 the pay stage speaker series all the time, but occasionally 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.720 we will schedule some home and homes. No neutral sites here. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:31.160 We don't go to Germany to play games. So raise 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.800 your hand when I call your name. Ty Hildebrandt Dan Rubinstein, 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.920 both halves of the Solid Verbal podcast mentioned on this 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.440 show many times. I used to listen to it. I 0:00:43.479 --> 0:00:45.720 still listen to it. It's way better than our show. 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.320 It's my favorite college football pod. Gentlemen, how are we 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:52.160 on the precipice of this twenty twenty five college football season. 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.200 We're doing well, man. Thank you for the invite. Thank 0:00:54.240 --> 0:00:56.600 you for the kind words that you offered on your show. 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.040 I guess a couple weeks ago we had a lot 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:00.600 of new people stop by, so we're we're thrilled to 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.360 be here. We've been trying to do this for a while, 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.040 so I'm glad we were finally able to get it 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:04.560 off the ground. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:07.520 Couldn't be better by the way. I looked at the 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.120 schedule for week one, and I do it every like 0:01:10.240 --> 0:01:13.080 four to seven days to remind myself that, like I 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:17.319 need to train for the stamina needed to ingest all 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.640 of that college But we have week zero, but like 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.600 a first full Saturday with college football after the darkness 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.080 of the summer without it, Like, I just don't want 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:27.959 to get too excited at Newon Eastern. I have to 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:30.640 pace myself for three full days and I'm not ready yet. 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.840 Sure, I've been, by the way, in a knock down, 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:36.920 drag out internet fight over the concept of week zero. 0:01:37.240 --> 0:01:39.319 You know, you do your countdown to kick off and 0:01:39.360 --> 0:01:43.960 your countdown to the regular season. Now it's my personal feel, 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:45.560 and that's all it is, by the way, is a 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.280 personal preference sort of feel that the season kicks off 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:51.280 in week one? Yes, because that's why we call it 0:01:51.320 --> 0:01:54.440 week one, And then you fully acknowledge, yes, there are games, 0:01:54.480 --> 0:01:57.800 intriguing games in week zero, But I've been doing the 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:02.640 countdown correlated to week one. I think ninety five percent 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.160 of the country is in consensus agreement on that. But 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.280 the thing you need to know about the five percent 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.240 is they're very vocal, and they all have Internet and 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:12.160 they will come after you. Where do you guys stand 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.079 on week zero versus Week one? Like, what is the 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:18.480 curtain lifter on the full college football season? 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:21.679 I think it's no in week one. I think it's 0:02:21.680 --> 0:02:25.520 new in Eastern week one. There is something about the 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:29.919 span of what's going on in that moment that week 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:33.120 zero is great. It's a great what is it like 0:02:33.400 --> 0:02:33.920 a snack? 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.320 Chips and salsa, That's what it is. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.360 It's a great snack. You sit down, you have some 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:42.960 peanuts before the menus come. Whatever, it's great. We cherish it. 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:46.760 We love having it. The first Thursday night great, right, 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:49.160 you come home from work, you have football. It's a 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:53.000 uniquely special moment. It's not week one until Saturday. 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:55.919 Yeah, speaking of the internet coming at you, I said 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.320 on our show that they should just move Army Navy 0:02:58.360 --> 0:03:00.520 to week zero if they're going to be in assistant 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:03.000 on having a week zero, because that's something everybody can 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:05.440 look forward to, and because you know they're both now 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.880 in the same conference, there's some weirdness potentially down the 0:03:08.880 --> 0:03:11.280 stretch if both end up playing for the conference title game. 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:15.119 So I'm just I'm not a huge Week zero fan. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:18.360 I like, maybe I'm too old at this point. I 0:03:18.480 --> 0:03:20.959 just kind of don't remember how it came about, why 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:21.799 it came about. 0:03:21.639 --> 0:03:22.600 Why we still have it. 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.799 I always tend to like anchor the start of the 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:28.200 college football season two. As you said, Dan, like noon 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.360 week one, that's sort of when everything gets started. If 0:03:31.400 --> 0:03:33.239 we're going to do week zero, let's try and spice 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:35.160 it up a little bit. But I would say, more 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:37.560 broadly speaking, I'm kind of a fan of the Dan 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.160 Lanning plan that I think he talked about at media Days, 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:42.280 where like, if you want to use that date for 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.440 college football, great, but let's just move everything up and 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:45.440 make that the new week one. 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:49.640 Yeah, all right? So confirmed? That means, according to sources, 0:03:49.680 --> 0:03:53.080 the three of Us hate Kansas State hate Iowa State, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.640 don't believe that game counts. We just confirmed sure. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:56.200 Of course. 0:03:57.600 --> 0:04:00.080 When we did your version of the Home and Home 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:05.560 on both of your channels, we talked about the boldest 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:07.920 but most believable takes that we could come up with. 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.320 Take a Tooea. Mount Takatoa is right there in the background, 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:12.440 all right, So we filled that up. What I wanted 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.200 to do is go a little bit broader. I just 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:17.600 wanted to throw blanks out there, the stuff we're most 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:21.039 looking forward to. I'll kick us off, what the things, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:23.159 the all Things team, if you will, that we're most 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:26.440 looking forward to this year. Because I go to week one, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.400 and I go to the Atlantic Coast Conference and I 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.600 think about all these games LSU at Clemson, BAMA at 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:39.440 Florida State, Georgia Tech at Colorado, Notre Dame at Miami, 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.160 TCU at North Carolina, you got Tennessee, Syracuse, you got 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.560 Virginia Tech, South Carolina. I think I just listed seven games. 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:52.080 I think there's a world where the ACC goes like 0:04:52.200 --> 0:04:55.520 two and five or worse in that lineup, and it 0:04:55.839 --> 0:04:58.560 really comes back to bid them in the very very 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:04.440 uncomfortable playoff. Converse station comparative conference strength of schedule type 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:07.360 debates that it ramped up last year. It was the 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.880 SMU or Alabama SMU or South Carolina Ole Miss and 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:13.680 so you had the whole Well it's the SEC. And 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:15.400 then other people said, yeah, but they play in their 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.520 conference championship game. Well, I think that if we get 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:23.919 there again and the ACC represented itself valiantly in week one, okay, 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:26.240 But there's also a world where I think they just 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.200 tie a cinder block to their ankle in Week one 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.479 and someone's still going to win the conference. Two teams 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:34.760 may even go you know, ten and two or something 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.120 like that. I just don't know if you drop the 0:05:37.120 --> 0:05:40.520 ball fantastically in Week one if you grant yourself benefit 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:42.320 of the doubt, and then you've got the like the 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:44.680 Georgia versus Georgia techs of the world later in the year. 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:48.120 But I think that week one, given the perception out there, 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:51.560 which is somewhat deserved, I think it's so imperative that 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.559 they go five hundred or better. 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:58.520 I agree, I absolutely agree, And there's never a moment 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.800 it seems that the entire sport has the eyes on 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.479 it in the same way it does for Week one, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.159 and you're building on Week one for the rest of 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.839 the month. That said, I still think there are moments 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.320 in this sport where we totally forget what happened in 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:19.280 early September. I think the wisest among us, and it's 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:23.679 not necessarily me, the wisest among us, realized that seasons 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.799 are living, breathing things, especially you know, after Ohio State 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:30.040 loses as early as they did to Virginia Tech, I believe, 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:32.800 and won the NAT the very first college football Playoff 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:36.560 that you can be forgiven for where you were in September, 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:44.839 but for with regard to conference strength conversations, it helps, 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:48.640 It really does help to have that terrific start. Yeah, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.600 I'm not going to say that that's untrue. 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:53.440 Here's where my head's also at, And I am not 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:56.359 advocating for this mentality to exist. I'm just saying I 0:06:56.360 --> 0:07:00.000 think this mentality will exist. Has no business in the converse, 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:04.200 but I think it will exist. SMU, in my opinion, 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:06.920 rightfully got benefit of doubt. They got into the playoff 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:09.240 last year. I thought they belonged to the playoff. They 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:12.440 got blown out by Penn State. I could easily see 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:15.760 a scenario where if it's coin flip, if it's fifty 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:19.240 one forty nine, either way, benefit of doubt goes against 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:23.240 the acc because that is in recent memory in the 0:07:23.280 --> 0:07:26.080 eyes of the committee. Shouldn't be, but it is factoring 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:28.840 into the twenty twenty five decisions. Shouldn't but will and 0:07:29.000 --> 0:07:31.960 if you coincide that, if you combine that with and 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.280 you guys also went like one in six or two 0:07:35.320 --> 0:07:38.040 and five when your conference, when your league had a 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.520 chance to flex in week one, and you didn't, Like, 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:45.000 we don't have this great robust inventory of data points 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.800 cross conference data points, the ones we do have access to, 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.680 you guys dropped the ball. So if you have another 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:55.440 another SMU Alabama caliber debate. I could see a world 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:57.520 where it goes against the ACC for those reasons. 0:07:57.520 --> 0:07:59.880 And by the way, that's why LSU at Clemson and 0:08:00.000 --> 0:08:02.680 Week one is such a big game among other reasons, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:05.760 right because Clemson obviously comes in with most returning production 0:08:05.840 --> 0:08:08.200 in the country and LSU we know stakes for Brian 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.800 Kelly and LSU, but that is a road game that 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:16.840 is ad in Clemson's Death Valley, and I think, however, 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.480 that game kind of comes about, you know, we'll be 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:22.840 talking about that one for a good long time, perhaps 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:26.160 as one of those indicators with respect to conference strength, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.440 because like it or hate it, I think, you know, 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:30.760 on both of our shows we talk about the conferences 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.520 the full way through, but most people tend to gravitate 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:36.040 towards the teams at the top, and LSU is probably 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.520 going to be near at or near the top of 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.959 the SEC at some point. Clearly Clemson's already going to 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:43.559 be there to start the year. Having those two teams 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:45.040 go up against one another right out of the shoot 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.560 is going to be pretty interesting for that conversation moving forward. 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:51.040 Yeah, and Brian Kelly almost wins a lot of these openers. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:56.880 So you said it bore all right, Rumistein you wan 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:58.480 the coin for it? You can go next? 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:01.480 What am I answering? 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:04.120 You just want to tell me the thing? 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:09.080 Oh, I'm looking forward to whatever. Okay, my next item is. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:11.440 I can't wait to learn who is going to be 0:09:11.480 --> 0:09:14.840 a new problem, right, I can't wait to find out 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.360 the player that you watch his week one or week two. 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:21.720 Be it a freshman, be at a new starter somewhere, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.959 be at an edge rusher who is hurt in twenty 0:09:24.000 --> 0:09:25.880 twenty four in his back and like we don't really 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.320 fully know his name yet, or there's a new coordinator somewhere. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.040 There are candidates for this across the board, you know, 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:35.280 like Decoryan Moore at Oregon. Right, He's he's somebody that 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.760 gets me excited as an Oregon human. But like when 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.720 you watched Ryan Williams against Georgia, you're like, oh, man, 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:45.280 we got three years of a problem at Alabama. We 0:09:45.280 --> 0:09:47.560 were hoping he would be this, especially as young as 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.040 he was. Slash Is and Jeremiah Smith, like, I can't 0:09:51.040 --> 0:09:54.280 wait across this sport to find out who the new 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:57.280 issues are going to be for coordinators. I love that 0:09:57.440 --> 0:10:00.439 moment early on in September, We're like, hmm, this guy's 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:02.680 going to be a catastrophe for the rest of this 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.240 schedule for a lot of pretty decent teams. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:09.520 I love that is anybody that fits The answer to 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.680 this question is anybody Is any one of those names 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:15.600 one of the high profile first year quarterbacks? 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:16.720 Sure? 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:20.280 Yeah, I absolutely think like the upside of all of 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.920 these first year starting quarterbacks right with what ty Simpson 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.560 has in front of him as an offensive line, with 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.920 who he's throwing to, with I think, maybe to a 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.640 lesser extent, who he's handing it off to. I think 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:36.000 that's a huge, huge problem potential for everybody in Alabama's schedule, 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:40.000 especially getting Ryan Grubb back. Like absolutely like the way 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:43.920 that a lot of these first year starters are built around. 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:45.600 Like I think Notre Dame's going to have a little 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:48.839 bit more pop on offense. I think what Dante Moore 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:52.000 brings arm strength wise is more than what Dylan Gabriel 0:10:52.040 --> 0:10:54.600 had well had. We'll see what, you know, skill position 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:57.080 looks like around him. I think there's all the potential 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.200 in the world for all of these first year guys 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.600 to be like an elevated problem because they could do 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:06.640 something that the previous guy couldn't do consistently at a lot 0:11:06.679 --> 0:11:09.439 of these places. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:12.640 I like it. I'm with you. 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.920 I'm excited to see you know many of these new situations, 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:19.920 to say the least, And as we talked about when 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:21.760 we kind of did this version over on our show, 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:26.960 the like the I guess the variability with respect to 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.200 what could go right versus what could go wrong as 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.079 part of what makes this the season so fascinating. 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:34.160 I think, at least starting in week one. 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.280 I love by the way that there is I think 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.600 for most of these guys at least a high profile 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:44.320 game first three weeks of the season. I don't think 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.600 that many of them we go like until October before 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.040 we see him dial it up. That also means someone 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.760 could fall flat on their face and the rebound in 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.400 October after they've already been forgotten about. All right, ty, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:54.920 next up. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:59.360 I am most looking forward to seeing who becomes this 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:04.240 year's India. And this is not to say a team 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:06.280 comes out of nowhere in the way that Indiana did 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:07.480 and they somehow find their. 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:10.280 Way into the college football Playoffs. 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.680 But as I think we've come to know just in 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:18.800 watching the playoff one year through, we're going to have 0:12:18.840 --> 0:12:23.360 a conversation at some point latter half of October, latter 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.400 half of November, where there are teams at least part 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.439 of that conversation that we did not expect coming in. 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.840 On a personal level, I'm very excited to see which 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:36.240 of my predictions fall the most flat, because I've got 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.800 several I'm like all in on pit this year as 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:41.679 one of those teams that could be don't ask me why. 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.560 It's a longer conversation, but we know that there are 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.080 going to be a handful of these teams that just 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.160 sort of pop up out of nowhere. Maybe they're hovering 0:12:48.200 --> 0:12:50.760 around a six and a half seven and a half 0:12:50.800 --> 0:12:54.079 win total per Vegas and you look at the schedule, 0:12:54.120 --> 0:12:55.880 you look at what they've got coming back. I mean, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.200 we did it on our show, Dan, You're potentially very 0:12:59.240 --> 0:13:01.760 high in Miszoobi because of the schedule. Like, there are 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.679 teams out there that I think are below like that 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.000 top line in each conference that are worthy of attention, 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.680 but maybe we don't fully know it yet, and we 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.720 just know that by the end of September some of 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.680 those are going to begin to emerge. So that to me, 0:13:14.800 --> 0:13:17.480 it's not just this season, but I would say just 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:19.160 for as long as they've been a college football fan, 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.480 waiting to see which teams pop like that in an 0:13:22.559 --> 0:13:23.520 unexpected way. 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:25.800 That's one of the reasons to be excited about a 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:26.160 new year. 0:13:27.559 --> 0:13:30.440 I'm trying to think about who the most random team 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.680 that would plausibly make sense to be in the playoff 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.360 would be that could kind of fit this maybe not 0:13:38.040 --> 0:13:40.160 maybe not quite. I don't know, like some of these 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.480 could shot in the world. Like I'm thinking totally randomly. 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:47.680 I'm thinking, if Virginia Tech emerged, right, if Michigan State 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.240 scaled their performance came out of nowhere, I think Missouri 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.920 is a more likely candidate. What if what if instead 0:13:53.960 --> 0:13:58.120 of Boise it's Dan Mullen and UNLV the year after 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.160 people kind of thought they could make the playoff, that 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.880 win the Mountain West and make the playoff. Georgia Tech, 0:14:02.920 --> 0:14:04.600 you know, you guys know I'm sky high on them. 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:07.360 If they make the title game, like I think they will, 0:14:07.400 --> 0:14:12.800 They're one win away from automatically being in Texas. You know, 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:17.959 Texas Tech is a conversation piece in any Big twelve prediction, 0:14:18.080 --> 0:14:20.640 as they should be. But have people wrapped their minds 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:25.000 around the possibility of Texas Tech actually being in the playoff. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:27.560 I don't know if they've gone quite that far down 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:29.760 the bridge yet. So yeah, there's a lot of team 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:30.600 like a TCU. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.960 I was about to say, TCU T this is why 0:14:33.000 --> 0:14:34.160 we do this showy. 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:35.720 TCU has a brutal schedule. 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:40.520 But I would say, reasonably, I could assume that the 0:14:40.560 --> 0:14:43.080 three of us like Josh Hoover. The problem, of course, 0:14:43.160 --> 0:14:45.160 is if you like Josh Hoover and if you believe 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.480 that they can make the playoff, you got to believe 0:14:47.520 --> 0:14:49.400 a lot else in order to put them in the 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:51.480 contender tier of the Big twelve and at least get 0:14:51.520 --> 0:14:54.080 them into this conversation as a team that could maybe 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.840 make that field of twelve. But the defense should be 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:59.080 a little bit better this season, which is why I 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.720 think Dan and I are, you know, cautiously optimistic here. 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:03.400 They're really bad against the run last year. They got 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:03.840 to fix that. 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.080 But you know, you got a schedule like this, You 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:07.720 have a coach who knows how to coach offense, You 0:15:07.720 --> 0:15:11.080 have a quarterback that potentially could have gone to Tennessee 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.480 if you believe Josh Hoover and what he had to say. 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:16.120 So there's a lot to like about this TCU team. 0:15:16.160 --> 0:15:18.880 You just have to assume that so many other parts 0:15:18.920 --> 0:15:20.200 of this team are going to get better in order 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.920 for them to maybe aspire to those heights. 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.160 Speaking of a portal quarterback, my next one is I 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:29.480 can't wait to see what Carson Beck is at Miami. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:34.600 Because he claims and they claim, he's been healthy for months. 0:15:34.800 --> 0:15:38.080 I have no reason not to believe that they lose 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.680 what their top half dozen pass catchers. But yet there 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:45.560 wasn't really a lot of just sheer electricity in that 0:15:45.680 --> 0:15:48.440 room to begin With all due respect to Xavier Ristreppo, 0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.120 he was kind of the quarter stowed of that room 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.600 and either went seventh round or undrafted. He's in Nashville 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:56.800 right now, he's with the Titans. So I think to myself, 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.560 I don't just think about Carson Beck in a I 0:16:00.600 --> 0:16:03.920 think about the quarterback position at Miami this time last year. 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:05.920 You got cam Woard there and he's going to go 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.440 on to be a superstar. But cam Ward also had 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.720 several times, as it turns out, that he shows up 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:12.720 to the building knowing I got to score forty if 0:16:12.720 --> 0:16:14.800 we're going to win today. Well, when you make the 0:16:14.880 --> 0:16:17.840 moves that they made at defensive coordinator. I don't know 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.240 how improved they'll be this year, but they've got to 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.320 be improved. So does it become a more somewhat of 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:28.480 a more complimentary Miami team. Are there some hard fought, 0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:32.000 like twenty three to twenty type games? Can they come 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.400 out on the plus side of those? Does that coaching 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:38.640 staff improve itself in fourth quarter high leverage positions, because 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.800 all of that dictates how we grade Carson Beckett the 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.400 end of the year. I just think it is so 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:50.320 wild that if we strawhold the college football public, there 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.160 are a lot of people who would have looked you 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:54.200 dead in the eye and said, that guy's going to 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:56.240 be the number one overall quarterback taken in the draft 0:16:56.240 --> 0:17:00.280 this time last year. Who this year, same human this year. 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.000 If you even said he's gonna, you know, challenge for 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.840 all acc honors, would say, oh, you're crazy, dude, Carson 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.680 beck He's not that good. But you told me yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.800 But forget about all that. No, the world's changed now. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:19.680 So I think that there is a litany of example 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.879 in this sport of teams that pop the year after 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:26.840 the public expected them to shore. Maybe Miami is that 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:27.240 this year. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.800 Yeah, I'm super high on Miami. I really like how 0:17:29.840 --> 0:17:32.600 aggressive they were and addressing very obvious needs in the 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:36.399 secondary that I think even if Carson Beck is merely 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:40.480 good but not incredible, that they're He's playing behind one 0:17:40.480 --> 0:17:43.160 of the better, if not best, offensive lines in the country, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.480 has a good running back room, has a promising but 0:17:46.600 --> 0:17:49.000 young receivers room. They're starting over a little bit at 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.840 tight end. But I don't know, there's number one offense 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.879 in America. Last year in terms of I think points 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.879 per drive, they were the number one offense. And so 0:17:56.560 --> 0:18:00.920 the starting point for Carson Beck and Miami is crazy intriguing. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:01.919 So yeah, I'm with you. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.280 My zag is that Miami's an eight and four team 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:08.120 this year. I don't think they're beating Notre Dame week one. 0:18:08.160 --> 0:18:10.760 I don't think they're beating Florida week four. I could 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:12.879 see them losing to Louisville. I think they're losing to 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.000 pit the close out the year. 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.000 So and that's tough. That's tough because two of the 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.119 you didn't use the word guaranteed, but like two of 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.560 the pretty solid l's that you're putting on them both 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:29.000 happen at home, which almost happened multiple times last year, but. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.520 Just one of those teams is on a sizeable losing 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:33.600 streak at the moment. 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:36.159 No, this is this is all true, and I like 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.040 Corey Heatherman, I agree with you, Dan. I mean, I 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.280 think what they did to try and improve the defensive 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:43.359 side of the ball, like everybody knew that they needed 0:18:43.359 --> 0:18:45.239 to get better there, and so I do think that 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:49.520 they will. But the offense is going to be slower 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:52.679 this year. It's probably going to look a little bit different. 0:18:52.720 --> 0:18:54.399 It might be oriented more around the run, and I 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.200 like their running back room generally speaking, but I think 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.119 this might revert back to more of the Mario Crystal 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.199 ball man ball style football that we've seen him run 0:19:04.280 --> 0:19:07.560 in the past. And I'm still not totally convinced that 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.640 they're going to get beyond some of these late game 0:19:09.680 --> 0:19:12.920 situations that I've haunted them. So I like Carson Beck 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:15.440 veteran presence back there, but I do think the offense 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.159 looks a little bit different, and I'm just not totally 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:20.640 sold in this sear I caught hell for this out 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:23.280 on our YouTube channel and after we did our acc 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:25.560 preview from people who like Miami and I get it, 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.040 but I'm just not buying it. 0:19:29.520 --> 0:19:31.239 I'm going to offer you one. By the way, I 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:35.480 could give you this is I'm yes ending, But I 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.720 could give you one through eight in the Big Twelve, 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:45.320 and you could, without any argument, have to say, all right, sure, yeah, 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.719 there are four hundred and thirty five different outcomes that 0:19:47.800 --> 0:19:49.680 are completely believable in the Big Twelve. 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:50.120 This year. 0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.919 You could say like, yeah, Caden Salter rips it at 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.320 Colorado and they're amazing, and they end up in the 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.639 Big Twelve championship game. We've got a good defensive front 0:19:57.800 --> 0:20:01.280 and a good quarterback and promising who are getting out 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:03.960