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Speaker 1: From Meat Eaters World News headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This

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Speaker 1: is Col's Week in Review with Ryan col Kalahan. Here's Cal,

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Speaker 1: a philosophy professor at Western Michigan University, recently published a

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Speaker 1: paper advocating for the intentional spread of tics that cause

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Speaker 1: alpha gal syndrome abbreviated AGS, the ailment that makes it

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Speaker 1: impossible for its hosts to eat red meat aka my

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Speaker 1: worst nightmare. I'll quote from the abstract of the article

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Speaker 1: to summarize the argument. Quote, if eating meat is morally impermissible,

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Speaker 1: then efforts to prevent the spread of tickborn ags are

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Speaker 1: also morally impermissible. Unquote. The study then draws out the

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Speaker 1: pieces of this argument, concluding quote, Promoting the proliferation of

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Speaker 1: tickborn ags is morally obligatory. That's right, You listening to

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Speaker 1: the sound of my voice, have a moral obligation to

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Speaker 1: get outside right now. Find lone star ticks or black

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Speaker 1: leg ticks or both, breed them in your basement, sneak

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Speaker 1: around your neighborhood, distribute them to your meat eating friends, neighbors, acquaintances,

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Speaker 1: and of course, infect yourself to prevent meat eating. Alpha

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Speaker 1: gal syndrome spreads when a tick deposits a very specific

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Speaker 1: alpha gall carbohydrate into the bloodstream of the host. The

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Speaker 1: host immune system attacks that carb and creates an out

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Speaker 1: of control reaction than anytime that same carbohydrate enters the

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Speaker 1: body in the future through eating red meat, the same

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Speaker 1: reaction overtakes the host, resulting in rashes, vomiting diarrhea, breathing problems,

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Speaker 1: and even anaphylactic shock. After that, even an elk backstrap

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Speaker 1: sizzling from the pan is going to look pretty horrible.

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Speaker 1: Before you rush to get inflamed over this article, it's

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Speaker 1: worth talking about the author, Parker Crutchfield. At first glance,

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Speaker 1: it might seem that he's a fanatic about the moral

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Speaker 1: problems of factory farming, or the climate effects of eating meat,

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Speaker 1: or just killing any animals. But if you look at

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Speaker 1: some of his other papers, it seems that he might

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Speaker 1: be using a logical argument technique called reductio ad absertum,

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Speaker 1: where you take in an argument so far that it

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Speaker 1: breaks to pieces. We've all been there, so by that logic,

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Speaker 1: you would also not breathe there. One of those types

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Speaker 1: of people. Would vegans take their moral clarity so far

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Speaker 1: that they would weaponize tics. Other Crutchfield papers argue for

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Speaker 1: a pain lottery to determine distribution of opioids, or for

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Speaker 1: creating so called posthumans who have better morals than we do.

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Speaker 1: If you have a few minutes, look up this guy's papers.

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Speaker 1: They're worth a read, and some aren't quite fit for

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Speaker 1: a family podcast. As enlightening as some cleverly argued thought

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Speaker 1: experiments might be, Alpha gal is scary as heck. And

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Speaker 1: keep in mind that I am an advocate for reading

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Speaker 1: and listening to the arguments of those I do not

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Speaker 1: agree with for educational and entertainment purposes. I might still

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Speaker 1: go douse my outdoor clothes in another round of tick

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Speaker 1: repellent just to be safe. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: I don't think any animal rights groups are going to

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Speaker 1: take this one to the furthest conclusion. This week we've

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Speaker 1: got the Feds, bears, and much more. But first I'm

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Speaker 1: going to tell you about my week and my week. Man,

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Speaker 1: it's been something. We left out Old Bosangelus on September

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Speaker 1: and a lot happened during that time. The Alaska Peninsula

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Speaker 1: treated us very well. All said and done, our flights

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Speaker 1: all the way down into camp were windless, blue sky

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Speaker 1: rarities in that part of the world. The southwest side

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Speaker 1: of the peninsula averages two hundred inches of precip a year,

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Speaker 1: it's just a hard expensive place to get to big

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Speaker 1: that's like one hundred and sixty seats to ten seats

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Speaker 1: Brown Bear in Alaska is a guided game. We went

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Speaker 1: great outfit of good repute, help each other out down

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Speaker 1: there in the land of extreme logistics. You need to

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Speaker 1: For peninsula brown Bears are huge commitments time wise and

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Speaker 1: finance wise, so you got to go with people that

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Speaker 1: client and the guide have signed up willingly to be

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Speaker 1: proper instruction that can range from basic safety strategy shot

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Speaker 1: It's a strange gig. No matter how skilled you are

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Speaker 1: had an absolutely fantastic time, fantastic experience. As I said,

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Speaker 1: and yeah, we just saw amazing stuff. Nobody quite understands

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Speaker 1: look above the brush, just like you do. Really fantastic

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Speaker 1: been spending their time in ways that benefit hunters, anglers,

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Speaker 1: and water. First up, the Trump administration recently announced a

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Speaker 1: series of potential lifelines for the coal industry, including opening

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Speaker 1: thirteen point three million additional acres of public land in

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Speaker 1: more affordable for energy companies, of course, but waste from

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Speaker 1: roll back the Regional Hayes Rule or RHR, originally instituted

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Speaker 1: as part of the Clean Air Act in nineteen seventy seven.

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Speaker 1: Under the RHR, air clarity is measured at one hundred

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Speaker 1: in to sound the alarm about a concerning public land issue.

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Speaker 2: So up here in northeast Florida, the Flagler County has

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Speaker 1: This caller didn't leave his name, but whoever you are,

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Speaker 2: Four four one.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to hear from you. Next, another listener sent

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Speaker 1: me a great email I wanted to tackle. He included

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Speaker 1: reasons that will be clear in a minute. For now,

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Speaker 1: we'll Jim. Jim wrote in and said, quote, my dad's

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Speaker 1: the kind of guy that doesn't much care about game laws,

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Speaker 1: and he brought me up hunting. He'll shoot over his

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Speaker 1: state limit on bucks and tag the deer. In another state,

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Speaker 1: He'll wander over property lines, and he'll for sure shoot

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Speaker 1: a deer way after shooting light. I came down to

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Speaker 1: do some early season white tail hunting with my dad,

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Speaker 1: and he worked hard to find me a spot, so

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Speaker 1: hard that he found me a spot one hundred yards

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Speaker 1: into the neighbor's back forty and he definitely knew it.

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Speaker 1: He walked me in there tonight, and the moment I

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Speaker 1: stopped hearing footsteps, I walked the hundred yards back into

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Speaker 1: his least ground and wandered around until I just ended

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Speaker 1: up sitting down here in the dark and never getting

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Speaker 1: in a tree. All that to say, I want to

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Speaker 1: hunt with my dad, but stuff like this keeps happening.

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Speaker 1: Hard to find a guy to ask what to do,

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Speaker 1: because that guy ought to be old Pops himself. How

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Speaker 1: would you handle it well? Jim calling you head on?

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Speaker 1: You just got to handle it head on, Say Dad,

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Speaker 1: my time with you is important. I love it, I

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Speaker 1: want to do it more, but I do not enjoy

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Speaker 1: it when it's illegal. I don't care what you do

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Speaker 1: with your own time. I prefer it was legal, but

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Speaker 1: that's your business. I guess. When it involves me and

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Speaker 1: I'm specifically taking my time to hang out with you,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be legal all the way through, or

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Speaker 1: else it just isn't fun. I care way more about

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Speaker 1: that than getting that buck or duck or whatever. That's

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Speaker 1: the way i'd start. The response can be a couple

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Speaker 1: of things. You know, we're dealing with fragile mail egos here.

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Speaker 1: You may encounter some snarky little blowback things here, and

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Speaker 1: that's fine, right, be like, yeah, make fun of me, Dad,

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Speaker 1: I get it, but this is what I am doing

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Speaker 1: from here on out. Hopefully you encounter just total acceptance,

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Speaker 1: and if not, you just got to say, Dad, we

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Speaker 1: can't hang out during hunting season because I can't know

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Speaker 1: what you're doing. If I know what you're doing, my

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Speaker 1: moral obligations are to turn you in give us a

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Speaker 1: holler back let us know what your thoughts. Are happy

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Speaker 1: to connect outside of the show, but we definitely want

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Speaker 1: to see if we can't provide some closure for the

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Speaker 1: Old Cow's Week in review universe here. So that's all

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Speaker 1: I got for you this week. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening. Remember to write in ask c a L.

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Speaker 1: That's asked Cal at the Meat Eater dot com or

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Speaker 1: call four oh six two two zero six four four one.

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Speaker 1: Love to hear from you. Snort, and I got a

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Speaker 1: date with some birds and we're gonna start trying to

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Speaker 1: punch some pronghorn tags. Get that tasty meat in the

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Speaker 1: old cooler right next to the old grizzly bear ham

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Speaker 1: that's in there too. Thanks again, Doctor. Next week