WEBVTT - Meet Your Bacterial Masters

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind from how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert lamp and I'm Julie Douglas, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna kick right in on a topic we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about before, about the microbial legions that live inside us,

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<v Speaker 1>about our growing revelation that it's not just us versus bacteria.

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<v Speaker 1>It's us and bacteria it's not and and then you

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<v Speaker 1>even get into this weird area where it's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to define what us really is. Yeah. Actually, there have

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<v Speaker 1>been a bunch of articles that have come out to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this idea, and we've we've discussed this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about more specifics. Yeah, we discussed this in

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<v Speaker 1>the the kids, Uh, Stuff to blow your kid's mind. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>it's early. I can't remembering the things that we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We we talked about bacteria all the time, is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying, but more specific to um, you know, perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>diseases or the gut and how it affects our moods. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's been a bunch of data that has

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<v Speaker 1>come out, UM. And this is out of something called

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<v Speaker 1>the Human Microbiome Project, which is very similar to the

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<v Speaker 1>Human Genome project, and we're gonna talk a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about that. But there's this idea that bacteria just

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<v Speaker 1>isn't getting the respect that it deserves, that that it

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<v Speaker 1>is more like a micro um biome organ like we

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<v Speaker 1>should look at this as an organ in our body,

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<v Speaker 1>This this team um of bacteria that lives within us,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to like, oh yeah, we've got some bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>on us. It's it's witching a ride. And then and

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<v Speaker 1>so far studies have have more or less fallen in

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<v Speaker 1>line with that line of thinking because like previously, we

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<v Speaker 1>just we didn't give it bacteria much thought, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we thought, oh, bacterious the enemy. And then we started

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<v Speaker 1>looking a little closer at saying, well, let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>at fecal bacteria and uh, and in with the hope

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<v Speaker 1>of understand better understanding various intestinal situations, let's look at

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<v Speaker 1>um that the mouth bacteria of a normal person. But there,

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<v Speaker 1>but there hasn't been until now this, uh, this real

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<v Speaker 1>effort to understand our micro geom as as a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to really understand the the micro's inside us. Like

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<v Speaker 1>you say, as this this entity right that that is

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<v Speaker 1>doing so much more than we ever could have imagined.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's talk about it first as as the enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>because this has really been our history with bacteria, at

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<v Speaker 1>least in the modern world. Yeah. This, Um, we we

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<v Speaker 1>get into this this area where all right, we recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that bacteria can and does do destructive things to the

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<v Speaker 1>human body, So we need a weapon to fight it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we end up using this thing called trickle sand,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty crazy, created more than forty years ago

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<v Speaker 1>surgical scrub for hospitals, so heavy duty stuff, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>then it shows up in a range of consumer products,

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<v Speaker 1>everything from liquid soap to bars up to toothpaste to

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<v Speaker 1>acne ointments, deodorant, mouthwatch, you name it pretty much any

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<v Speaker 1>socksy what's doing in fox? Uh, it's it's everywhere, to

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<v Speaker 1>the point to the point that the Center for Disease

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<v Speaker 1>Control and Prevention found that the chemical is present in

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<v Speaker 1>the urine of seventy of Americans over the age of five.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're such as our obsession with cleanliness. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like we're fighting the war so enthusiastically that we do.

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<v Speaker 1>We've just saturated our bodies with this, uh, with this substance. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and there have been a couple of studies that show

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<v Speaker 1>that trick lesson may alter hormone regulation in lab animals

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<v Speaker 1>at least or cause antibiotic resistance. And that's the big

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<v Speaker 1>problem we have right because we've got superbugs emerging like

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<v Speaker 1>uh Clostium cliffs Clostridium deficially, which is a superbug that

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<v Speaker 1>is in hospitals and unfortunately a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>go in for procedures sometimes to be confused with Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>Australian which is UM. But that that's actually something that's

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<v Speaker 1>extremely debilitating and um, people really suffer for years and

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<v Speaker 1>years afterward. I mean, if if you happen to be

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<v Speaker 1>very elderly or very young, there's possibility that you could

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<v Speaker 1>die from it. And but just to bring in bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>back into the fold here, um, I think if everybody

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<v Speaker 1>remembers we talked about something called fecal transplants which actually

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<v Speaker 1>are helping people we see diff um that they contracted

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<v Speaker 1>in the hospital and replenishing their their bad or their

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<v Speaker 1>worn out gut floora with really good bacteria. UM. So

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<v Speaker 1>we've had clues along the way that bacteria isn't you know,

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<v Speaker 1>And just a rehash on that every everyone has probably

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<v Speaker 1>wanted at one point another. What is poop? Right? What

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<v Speaker 1>is it? What is poop? And as it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of poop is is actually bacteria. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not food or food waste particularly as much as it

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<v Speaker 1>is bacteria. Yeah. So the idea here as you you

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<v Speaker 1>end up with an imbalance in the bacterial uh population

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<v Speaker 1>inside your intestines, and to to set things right, you

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<v Speaker 1>get some get a nice healthy stool sample. Inject that

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<v Speaker 1>into your system, uh, specifically into your intestines, not just anywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>but don't try to at home on your own by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I have it professionally done. Um and only

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<v Speaker 1>if if needed. Uh. But the ideas you get some

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<v Speaker 1>healthy fecal matter in there to restore equilibrium with that

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<v Speaker 1>bacterial population, right, because it turns out the gut is

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<v Speaker 1>really stuffed with a ton of bacteria and adults actually

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<v Speaker 1>carry two to five pounds of bacteria. Did you know that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like your weight is made up of two to five

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<v Speaker 1>pounds of bacteria. Like you can think of it in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of like I think of in terms of, say

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<v Speaker 1>the population in a in a wooded area. All right, um, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't like, we don't like coyotes. Coyotes are bad,

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<v Speaker 1>so we wipe out a whole bunch of coyotes. Now

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to eat the animal that the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>these are a good example. Let's say wolves. Wolves are bad,

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna eat our livestock. Let's to wipe out the wolves,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Now what's gonna eat? Say the deer. Now

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<v Speaker 1>they're deer everywhere, deer showing up in our yards and

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<v Speaker 1>running into our cars. What are gonna do about the deer?

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<v Speaker 1>That things get out of balance with these Uh, these

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<v Speaker 1>carefully maintained and evolved environments. Uh, that contain multiple players,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, And and things began to behave differently. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you can look at that sort of analogy within your

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<v Speaker 1>own microbiome, right, because each of us, it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll talk a little bit more about these revelations

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<v Speaker 1>that have come from this biome microbiome project, but each

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<v Speaker 1>of us has our very own particular sort of set

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<v Speaker 1>of bacteria. Yes, this this really blew my mind a

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<v Speaker 1>bit because we've discussed in the past, how if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the the the micro environment of say a

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese individual versus like especially a typical American individual, like

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<v Speaker 1>a typical Japanese um individuals is eating a lot of seafood.

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<v Speaker 1>They're having a lot of a lot of seaweed, and

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<v Speaker 1>so they have this this environment inside of them that

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<v Speaker 1>is the result of that, that is that is patterned

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<v Speaker 1>to to roll with that. And then the average American

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<v Speaker 1>of course is eating um, cheeseburgers, and it's a cheeseburger

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<v Speaker 1>gut bacteria, right, and and so meant to break that

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<v Speaker 1>down specifically. Yes, So we knew already that that if

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<v Speaker 1>you put these two environments side by side, you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to see some significant differences. But it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>it's even more widespread than that. Everyone's um bacterial environment

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<v Speaker 1>is like a snowflake or like a fingerprint. Each one

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<v Speaker 1>is different. So yours is different from mine, and mine

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<v Speaker 1>from from you listening, Which makes sense because everyone's everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>personal history is a little bit different. Everyone's diet is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit different, Like even within households where two

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<v Speaker 1>individuals share the same diet, they're gonna be other factors

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<v Speaker 1>that askew things. Yeah, and just to let's do a

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<v Speaker 1>quick review two of what beneficial bacteria is and how

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<v Speaker 1>we really are outnumbered U. We're talking about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>trillion good bacteria that is dwelling within dwelling inside of us.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are really just the rappers for the contents. Yeah, rappers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes we are rappers, but uh, but really mean

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<v Speaker 1>we're just the rappers for this content, bacterial content. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we are outnumbered our own cells that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're born with ten to one when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>bacterial cells. Yeah, this, it was, it was crazy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was the New York Times article we were

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<v Speaker 1>looking at where they quoted a scientists where they were

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<v Speaker 1>they said, we'll go from the bacterious point of view,

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<v Speaker 1>were just the rappers for their Yeah, and so we're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of these from that that point of view, we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're kind of the parasite in a sense. Well yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the table has been turned when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it that way. And and there was another researcher

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<v Speaker 1>that said, you know, when you look in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're seeing is a bacterial composition. Really because kind

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<v Speaker 1>of pretty as what you said, Yeah, like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>bacterial composition, should not just stay. But I guess in

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<v Speaker 1>reality is a little a little more pollock, uh Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Pollock than anything I don't know, I've seen point till

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<v Speaker 1>is um there yeah, um, but yeah, I mean that's

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<v Speaker 1>this idea that what you're looking at in the mirror

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<v Speaker 1>is largely bacterial and not what you think of as

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<v Speaker 1>your own. So again this makes this sort of step

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<v Speaker 1>back and say, well, what is let's let's redefine this

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<v Speaker 1>relationship we have to bacteria. We know that it helps

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<v Speaker 1>to keep us healthy. Um, yeah, we know that it

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<v Speaker 1>helps to break down food, helps to inspire our immune system.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's plenty of food we just would not be

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<v Speaker 1>able to eat if we did not have this bacterial environment, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But the finding and findings of this microbiome project seem

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<v Speaker 1>to point to a much more important function for our body.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the evidence is mounting that we've just truly

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<v Speaker 1>could not exist without all of the s bacteria teaming

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<v Speaker 1>within us. It is a symbiotic relationship then yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And we we discussed some of this in our our

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<v Speaker 1>Stuffable your Kid's Mind video about the microbes that live

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<v Speaker 1>inside is um because you you get into looking at

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<v Speaker 1>like the symbiotic relationships, all right, So they are all

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<v Speaker 1>these tiny little players that, when working together in harmony,

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<v Speaker 1>allow for this greater picture of of uh to to

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<v Speaker 1>rise to the surface. And you compare that to the

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<v Speaker 1>human body itself, in which you have all these tiny

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<v Speaker 1>players working in in even greater unity two produce the

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<v Speaker 1>life form that we experience every day. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we talked about it to use just other examples

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<v Speaker 1>like that, You've got shrimp that have you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria that basically helps to like a car wash for

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<v Speaker 1>the shrimp, which is great because it keeps, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the shrimp from getting any sort of other diseases. Bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>keeps the shrimp nice and clean, and you know, then

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<v Speaker 1>the bacteria gets something scrumptious to eat off the shrimps back.

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<v Speaker 1>Presumably they really are they they should have their own podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio added a recent episode on Colors that I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>everyone listen to, and there's a section on the mantis

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<v Speaker 1>shrimp and it's amazing eyes. Okay, I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that it was more about how it affects coloration

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<v Speaker 1>of birds when they eat shrimp, or even there there

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<v Speaker 1>people matter, There's there's that they're they're all sorts of weird,

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<v Speaker 1>like we think of shrimp is other. It's they're the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that shows up on the barbecue. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>think this passive little creature the bottom dwellers, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>a ferocious shrimp out there with like like built in

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<v Speaker 1>sonic boxing gloves there anyway. That don't get me started

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<v Speaker 1>on shrimp. Yeah, back back to the bacteria. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this project as microbiome project. We're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>five year study basically UM with two hundred scientists at

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<v Speaker 1>eighty different institutions. This is a tremendous effort um. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all pulling together to try to map bacterial genes and

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<v Speaker 1>individuals using some of the same technology that the Human

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<v Speaker 1>Genome Project used. And what they're trying to do here,

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<v Speaker 1>or what they've begun to do, is to find a

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<v Speaker 1>baseline of healthy bacteria and individuals because in the past

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<v Speaker 1>we have looked at veterian individuals a bit more related

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<v Speaker 1>to as you had pointed out, like Chron's disease or

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<v Speaker 1>other UM diseases, in which they were trying to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how this bacteria was working. Right. Yeah, we've we've

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<v Speaker 1>initiated these studies with it with a certain particular UM

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<v Speaker 1>topic in mind. But their idea was, well, what is

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<v Speaker 1>it supposed to look like in a healthy individual. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's not just instead of feeling one portion of the elephant,

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<v Speaker 1>let's try and trying to guess what it is. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at the elephant. Yeah. And so initially they

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<v Speaker 1>had six hundred subjects that they were going to try

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<v Speaker 1>to run through this process, ages eighteen to forty, and

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<v Speaker 1>they had everyone from densist to gynecologists checking out six

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<v Speaker 1>people probing you name it, yeah, because I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out it's actually kind of hard to find someone

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<v Speaker 1>who has quote unquote perfectly healthy. I mean not to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to get all Gothic on everybody. If you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the second you're born, you start to fall apart. So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you find somebody who has who is you

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<v Speaker 1>still has it to some degree altogether? Robert bummer, lamb um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it got the the sample um of of

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<v Speaker 1>people actually got whittled down to two two And this

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<v Speaker 1>is what I thought was amazing. Of these two forty

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<v Speaker 1>two people of them still had to be treated for

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<v Speaker 1>either gum disease or cavities. So as you say not,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you just kind of you know, start to

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<v Speaker 1>follow up and to quote Tina fe the mouth dies first.

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<v Speaker 1>So yes, yes, uh uh So in addition to stool

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<v Speaker 1>samples and saliva, of these two forty two people, women

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<v Speaker 1>were swapped in eighteen different places on their bodies, while

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<v Speaker 1>men were swapped in fifteen. And we're talking the crook

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<v Speaker 1>of the arm, folds in the ear, uh, for vagina,

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<v Speaker 1>for vaginas for women, their vaginas like three different places.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is really important because it turns out that

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<v Speaker 1>the bacteria in um and the vagina is probably some

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<v Speaker 1>of the most powerful in terms of the immune system

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<v Speaker 1>and immune functions. And we'll talk about that later, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>head to toe, these people were wobbed so that they

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<v Speaker 1>could get this complete picture of what bacteria looks like

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<v Speaker 1>in a person. And so they end up with about

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<v Speaker 1>three point five terra bases of data to examine, lots

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<v Speaker 1>and lots of data. Yeah, and a terror base is

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<v Speaker 1>one trillion subunits of DNA, so we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain here. Uh. They had something like eleven thousand or

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<v Speaker 1>more than eleven thousand samples and they ended up, i believe,

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<v Speaker 1>running about five thousand samples through which took about two

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<v Speaker 1>million computer hours to to run these data sets. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to give everybody a scope of what a

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<v Speaker 1>huge project. This This is a hundred and seventy three

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar project. And what they're trying to do is

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<v Speaker 1>they they teased apart bacterial genes from human genes and

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<v Speaker 1>then they could really get into the specifics of what

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<v Speaker 1>they were seeing. So they really set out to justify

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<v Speaker 1>the ways of bacteria Toman really to get all miltony

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<v Speaker 1>on it. Yes, yes, I believe that was actually in

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<v Speaker 1>their abstract. Yeah, um, all right, we're gonna take a

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<v Speaker 1>quick break and when we get back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you some amazing things about the bacteria that is

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<v Speaker 1>dwelling inside you. Right now, all right, we're back. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of bacteria living inside each of us,

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<v Speaker 1>to the point where it's it even gets a little

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<v Speaker 1>tricky to say it's living inside us. It is living

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<v Speaker 1>with us, part of us, it's part of us, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's in a a symbiotic state, it is enmeshed

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<v Speaker 1>part to say where we end and it begins exactly exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>it's ten thousand species of microbes and each of us.

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<v Speaker 1>That is what they discovered. One of the discoveries from

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<v Speaker 1>this project, which again is lending credence to this idea

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a microbial organ within us, and we should

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<v Speaker 1>start to look at it as that, as opposed to, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's much there's bacteria jump on us and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>hitching a ride. Um. It is. It is acting on

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<v Speaker 1>us and within us. Um. And as you say, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a very symbiotic process. Yeah, you have twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand human genes, eight million back real genes, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>and its specialized in the area resides in. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have like the Queen's bacteria is gonna gonna really roll

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<v Speaker 1>with its the particular neighborhood, whereas the Bronx bacteria is

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<v Speaker 1>a lightly different thing. You can't take one for the

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<v Speaker 1>from the other switch places and expect h them to

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<v Speaker 1>just fit right in well. And the other analogies have

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<v Speaker 1>been like, you know, one part of you could be

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<v Speaker 1>more like a Amazon rainforest, while the other is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, an ocean or even another Yeah, you know

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<v Speaker 1>the Sahara desert. Um and I had talked about the

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria swamps that were taken from the vagina, and it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out that that bacteria in there is is very

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<v Speaker 1>very active. And in fact, it turns um the vagina

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<v Speaker 1>is the jungle in this scenario then, yeah, or the

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<v Speaker 1>rainforest perhaps UM it turns conditions a bit acidic um

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<v Speaker 1>and its environment, and the idea is that that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of keeps other foreign bacteria out. And that would make

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<v Speaker 1>sense because this is you know, this is an area

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<v Speaker 1>of the body that UM that could cultivate bad bacteria.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting that uh really easily right. It's damp, moist, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>easy to fuester in. And it's also the first bacterial

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<v Speaker 1>environment that a newborn, at least a newborn and experiences.

0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.119
<v Speaker 1>Vaginal birth is exposed to. It's like a and it

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<v Speaker 1>is we discuss this little in the video for kids,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, but when the vagina talk. Yeah, but when

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<v Speaker 1>a child is born, the vaginal birth, it is it's

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<v Speaker 1>basically a baptism of bacteria. They are they they're going

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<v Speaker 1>from this clean, pristine environment where they're this single creature,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they are just bombarded with this bacterial invasion. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and check this out. When a woman becomes pregnant, the

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<v Speaker 1>bacteria in her vagina changes, presumably um in anticipation of

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<v Speaker 1>this child that will be going through the canal and

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<v Speaker 1>getting this beneficial bacteria to begin life with. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is That's when I start to say, this is far

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<v Speaker 1>more ingrained than our thoughts said. WHOA, it just helps

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<v Speaker 1>is to break down food. It's like, no, that's actually

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<v Speaker 1>it's playing a vital role. Yeah, this is a part

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<v Speaker 1>of the blueprint. And so when a child is not

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<v Speaker 1>a woman born, when when a child is born via

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<v Speaker 1>since arian section, you have a slightly different scenario going on, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>you end up with a rather different bacterial baptism. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of the things that scientists want to

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<v Speaker 1>try to answer. If if you are born via caesarean

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<v Speaker 1>and you have a different microbiome, how does that affect

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<v Speaker 1>you or does it affect you in your adult years?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a different way of fighting, um, disease

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<v Speaker 1>or illness? Are you more likely to flaming bath that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing? Yes, yeah, that is also in the abstract. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so this is really I think, very amazing information to

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<v Speaker 1>know that that that bacteria is acting on this level. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's another thing that that came out of this is

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<v Speaker 1>that researchers found genetic signatures of disease causing bacterial straints

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<v Speaker 1>in everyone's micro biome. So what I say, what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying here is and we've all known, um to some

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<v Speaker 1>degree that but that we all carry staff for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>or as some of us carry staff. UM, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>we're perfectly fine. We're hanging out with it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>some other people can come into contact with us, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they get a staff infection. So um that that

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<v Speaker 1>is no secret. But the extent of some of these

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<v Speaker 1>disease causing bacteria that dwells within us that was not

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<v Speaker 1>really known. So you have this idea of all this good,

0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.560
<v Speaker 1>beneficial bacteria within us hanging out with a bad bacteria,

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<v Speaker 1>presumably camping it down. It's a difference between saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally a a murderer appears in society, UH towards the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between that and saying, oh, well they're in they're

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<v Speaker 1>a numeral potential murders. They just don't pop up that

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<v Speaker 1>are that are somehow kept in check by other UH

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<v Speaker 1>forces in society and culture. And UH I draw comparison

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<v Speaker 1>here because it's UH the idea that we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these harmful bacteria in us, but if things

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<v Speaker 1>are in the right balance, then they're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be an issue. It's when things get out of balance

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<v Speaker 1>or or systems are are disrupted, that things can get

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<v Speaker 1>a little hairy. And that's why, UH, researcher, scientists, doctors

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<v Speaker 1>from every discipline are really kind of backing up and

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this data and reconstructing their ideas based on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And of course, as we go more and more through

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<v Speaker 1>the data and find more things to substantiate some of

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps theories or hunches will probably find out how bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>is actually affecting us. But as you say, um, me,

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<v Speaker 1>on this one level, it's it begins to look like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that it's not actually pathogens that are creating illness and disease,

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<v Speaker 1>but with perhaps something like diabetes, it could be a

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<v Speaker 1>miscommunication with the bacteria. So normally our bacteria, we begin

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<v Speaker 1>to think of this is really um, you know, communicating

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<v Speaker 1>with our cells and keeping us healthy. It could be

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<v Speaker 1>that there is this miscommunication with bacteria that, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>defending it against the pathogen, allows the cells that make

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<v Speaker 1>insulin in the body to be killed. Um. And that

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<v Speaker 1>really kind of makes you back up and go, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's think about antibiotics. We know that it can wipe

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<v Speaker 1>out your gut flora at least presumably the rest of

0:21:25.400 --> 0:21:29.239
<v Speaker 1>your body too. Um And there's some reports you can

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<v Speaker 1>take a while for you to recover years four years

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<v Speaker 1>to build up your good flora. So then you have

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of like, what are these other agents that

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<v Speaker 1>are acting honest that are disturbing this balance, as you say,

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<v Speaker 1>of good bacteria, and this idea that that balance or

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<v Speaker 1>the imbalance that could be creating disease within us. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're going forward, we could reach the point where we

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<v Speaker 1>look back on our use of of antibiotics and it'll

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<v Speaker 1>it'll basically be the equivalent of say, carpet bombing a

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<v Speaker 1>city that may have uh insurgents in it or or

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of terrorist activity, and it versus the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of using a much more targeted method of removing a

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<v Speaker 1>a hostile bacteria. Yeah, carpet bomb versus drone right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>not the drone is completely horked out exactly, but still

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<v Speaker 1>the the the the comparison holds true. Yeah. Uh So

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<v Speaker 1>this this gets this idea that perhaps this sort of knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>this and again we're at the tip of iceberg here

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<v Speaker 1>under this huge data mountain. Um this knowledge could help

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<v Speaker 1>us to perhaps curb debilitating diseases before they happen. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of the hopes, um, and then it will

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<v Speaker 1>answer some of these questions of why some of us

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<v Speaker 1>are more susceptible to disease while others, um just seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to really ride things out, or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are much more healthier when it comes to being bombarded

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<v Speaker 1>by pathogens. Yeah. Again, I think I brought this up

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<v Speaker 1>the last time we discuss stuff micro I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was actually with parasites. But I'm reminded of

0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:07.200
<v Speaker 1>the episode of the American version of the Office where

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<v Speaker 1>Dwight is fired or Dwight quits, and then all the

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<v Speaker 1>plants in the die because no one realized that Dwight

0:23:13.240 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>was the one watering them all. And uh. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you look at these examples where people are realizing, oh, well,

0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:21.160
<v Speaker 1>this thing that we thought was the parasite was really

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<v Speaker 1>more of a had more of a symbiotic relationship with us.

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<v Speaker 1>This bacteria that we thought was bad. Turns out it's

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<v Speaker 1>part of a careful balance that that that is built

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<v Speaker 1>up over millions of years. Um. So yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>we should respect that the Dwights within us. Yeah. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>What I think is really interesting about this is the

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<v Speaker 1>potential to for for further study because what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are two hundred forty two individuals who largely Caucasian,

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<v Speaker 1>coming from two cities St. Louis and Houston, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know that's some cheeseburger eaters, right, there's some

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<v Speaker 1>cheeseburger eaters. Um, what if you could get a sample

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<v Speaker 1>across all cultures across the world. Of course, we're talking

0:24:00.240 --> 0:24:04.080
<v Speaker 1>about an insane amount of data that probably wouldn't we

0:24:04.119 --> 0:24:06.720
<v Speaker 1>couldn't go through in our lifetime. But what if you

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<v Speaker 1>could start to really map this out in earnest across

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<v Speaker 1>the world and begin to really see a picture, a

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<v Speaker 1>better picture of what it is to be human, what

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<v Speaker 1>it is to be someone who is battling disease. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it's exciting speaking of microbes and cheeseburgers and

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<v Speaker 1>the gut Uh. There's a there's a restaurant in Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>called Gutbusters. Are you familiar with this? And they have

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<v Speaker 1>they have this grotesque sign. Um, it's like hand painted

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<v Speaker 1>or hand airbrush or something like this guy eating this

0:24:39.480 --> 0:24:42.560
<v Speaker 1>big grotesque sandwich. But that would be interesting to study

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.399
<v Speaker 1>individuals who eat gut Busters, which I think is some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of Philly cheese steak. Thing with cheese whizz on it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a little research. I'm not a Philly cheese

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<v Speaker 1>steak guy, but have I ever ran it about this before?

0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.879
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I have some sort of memory for

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.920
<v Speaker 1>a fully cheese steaks. Well. Hating this, you tune into

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.159
<v Speaker 1>these various food shows, and a lot of them are

0:25:04.200 --> 0:25:06.560
<v Speaker 1>like that. You know, they asked these food uh, these

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<v Speaker 1>foodies and chefs like what's your favorite meal in this city,

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<v Speaker 1>in the city, in the city, And a lot of

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>the times they end up narrowing in on a particular

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Philly cheese steak or Philly cheese steakes style sandwich and

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<v Speaker 1>a given city some sort of kind of gross looking

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<v Speaker 1>meat and cheese sandwich. And it's not the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing that appeals to me. But a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>are really militant about their their Philly cheese steak sandwiches,

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.240
<v Speaker 1>and some people are really militant about the necessity of

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<v Speaker 1>having cheese with on there. Um. Anyway, I'm just what

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<v Speaker 1>does that do to the the interview and it's the

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<v Speaker 1>gut buster? Um moniker? Is that? Does that? Is that real?

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:42.680
<v Speaker 1>Is it actually bust your gut? Does it? Does it

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<v Speaker 1>somehow invade your gut with even more microbes than before.

0:25:46.560 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, or maybe well, okay, well, the pessimists

0:25:48.840 --> 0:25:51.200
<v Speaker 1>in me too thinks like, once we get the information

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<v Speaker 1>about how the food is truly affecting us and this

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 1>bacterial colony within us, that we're not really going to

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<v Speaker 1>change our ways. What's going to happen is that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get some sort of crazy probiotic milkshake to go

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<v Speaker 1>with it, to break it down better. You know, it's like, hey,

0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:11.000
<v Speaker 1>five thousand strains of microbes. Nine, you get your gap

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:16.080
<v Speaker 1>buster and your biotic shake. There you go. The future. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of the future, let's call the robot over and

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:22.880
<v Speaker 1>get a little listener mail here. Um. So we heard

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<v Speaker 1>from our listener Jeffrey, and he was writing in about

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<v Speaker 1>the the Aquatic Sounds episode that we did, and he

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to share his own experiences with listening to things

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<v Speaker 1>in the swimming pool. UM, particularly on to what degree

0:26:36.760 --> 0:26:39.920
<v Speaker 1>sound is muffled and what degree it's clear. Um. Because

0:26:39.920 --> 0:26:42.760
<v Speaker 1>we were discussed in that podcast that there there are

0:26:43.080 --> 0:26:45.280
<v Speaker 1>underwater hearings for humans is different, it's a it's a

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:48.359
<v Speaker 1>slightly different thing there. So some sounds are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be aren't going to sound muffled, and they're not getting

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.280
<v Speaker 1>you're not gonna be able to hear things underwater quite

0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.640
<v Speaker 1>like you hear above water. But other sounds are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be very sharp. So Jeffrey writes in and says, the

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<v Speaker 1>mid range is muffled. That is far is what's going

0:27:00.560 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>on in the water. You can hear some things more crisply.

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm resting on my back in the pool at

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<v Speaker 1>the gym, I can hear every pop of every knee

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.160
<v Speaker 1>and joint here and far. The longer I lay there

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:14.120
<v Speaker 1>after a swim watching the clouds go by. I hope

0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 1>he means the clouds in the sky, because when I

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:20.960
<v Speaker 1>swim laugh, I see clouds and strings of things that

0:27:21.040 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't like to think about floating through the water. Um.

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:30.200
<v Speaker 1>So hopefully yeah, atmospheric clouds, nuts snot cloud um. Watching

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<v Speaker 1>the clouds go by, the more I hear the pops

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.479
<v Speaker 1>of joints, until it sounds like twenty people constantly breaking

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:39.119
<v Speaker 1>match sticks with the with the with the sound turned up.

0:27:39.440 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 1>In fact, not only can I clearly hear the clicks,

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I can clearly hear the echo. I know that out

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>of the water I wouldn't hear this even in the

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<v Speaker 1>most quiet room. If that Olympic sized pool were empty

0:27:48.920 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>and I were laying there, there is no way I

0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.160
<v Speaker 1>could hear a woman's leg or arm or spine pop

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:57.840
<v Speaker 1>from thirty ft away, unlike seven hours ago. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. Well even hours ago was he said

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<v Speaker 1>this on Facebook? So in fact, maybe I cut that off. Anyway,

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:07.199
<v Speaker 1>we got to the need of what Jeffrey had to say.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like an aquatic mesophonia. Yeah. Yeah, So for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>who does have mesophonia, don't swim in a gym pool

0:28:15.200 --> 0:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>that is uh at the rush hour. Yeah. And the

0:28:18.600 --> 0:28:20.960
<v Speaker 1>other interesting thing about about that is if you were

0:28:21.000 --> 0:28:23.199
<v Speaker 1>to were to swim and you did not like the

0:28:23.200 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 1>sounds you were hearing, good luck shutting it off because

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:28.439
<v Speaker 1>it's not You can't just stick some your plugs in

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>because you're hearing with your skull. It's a bone connectivity hearing.

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 1>So it's a it's an entirely different scenario. Although they

0:28:34.800 --> 0:28:38.320
<v Speaker 1>are underwater empty three players there are, but that would

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>be your best bet is to somehow block it out.

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>It's still the sound. We are just going to hit

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:48.720
<v Speaker 1>your skull and rebate, reverbate no matter what HiT's look

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>at this other email. This one is from Lizzie, and

0:28:50.680 --> 0:28:53.360
<v Speaker 1>this was pretty exciting because we just did this episode

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<v Speaker 1>The Horror where we talked. We talked about the science

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<v Speaker 1>of of being afraid, of being frightened, and then why

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:01.800
<v Speaker 1>we like it when we get addicted to it in

0:29:01.800 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>many cases, and we talked a little bit about things

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:09.360
<v Speaker 1>that we find scary um chlorophobia or fear of plants,

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 1>fear of clowns. Yes, yes, you you we brought it.

0:29:12.160 --> 0:29:13.960
<v Speaker 1>You brought up the fear of clowns. And I kind

0:29:13.960 --> 0:29:17.880
<v Speaker 1>of defended clowns to a certain point. Uh and and

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>cold and uh and they at least offended some of them.

0:29:20.000 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>And you brought up hobo's yeah, like clowns people. Yeah.

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:28.080
<v Speaker 1>And so we actually heard from a listener who is

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<v Speaker 1>a clown um literally, and Lizzie writes and says, I'm

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>writing to defend clowns in your horror podcast. I am

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>a clown and I'm not scary at all. Actually, I

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 1>think of myself as adorable. And indeed, she sent a

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 1>photo and you have to admit, she's a pretty adorable

0:29:42.880 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>clown with makeup. Um, she says. And it's funny to

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>me that all these kids say that clowns are scary,

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:52.160
<v Speaker 1>because I've had quite the opposite experience. I have been

0:29:52.200 --> 0:29:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in nanny for the last two years, and the girls

0:29:54.040 --> 0:29:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I watch absolutely love that I'm a clown. The oldest

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>one would brag to her friends. So when I went

0:29:58.560 --> 0:30:00.760
<v Speaker 1>to drop her off and picked and pick her up,

0:30:01.040 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>kids were asking me to do tricks or do some

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.880
<v Speaker 1>clowney and I would do a small impromptu performance on

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 1>the playground and it was fun and I've never made

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.440
<v Speaker 1>a kid cry to this day. I even did a

0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:15.200
<v Speaker 1>performance at one of the girl's birthdays parties. Uh, in

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 1>costume and with a clown nose on. However, some kids

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>cried when the dad dressed up his illow and came

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.880
<v Speaker 1>out to terrify the children. Uh. Well, that wasn't his intent,

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:28.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's what happened. Also, here's a video of one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best clowns in the country, Avner the Eccentric,

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and he doesn't have any clown makeup on it all

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's fantastic. Um And indeed, I watched the did

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you watch this clip? I didn't have time to this morning,

0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.840
<v Speaker 1>but you described it to me. Yeah. He it's really

0:30:41.840 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>interesting because he has kind of Uh, he's like an

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.600
<v Speaker 1>older dude and he has as a big bushy beard

0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and uh a little bit he looks like the who

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:53.320
<v Speaker 1>was it? Was it? Red Green? The Red Green Show?

0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:56.720
<v Speaker 1>The Canadian Show? I thought the that was on PBS.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of that kind of mentality, you know, kind of

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>a prospect you're looking. Beard does not have clown makeup on,

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 1>like she says, and his act reminds me like a

0:31:04.680 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 1>little bit of like an EMT Kelly kind of hobo

0:31:07.120 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>clown kind of thing. A lot of his materials seemed

0:31:09.840 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to revolve around eating, but then there's also a miming

0:31:14.880 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of Charlie Chaplin vibe to what he's doing. So

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>I found it really interesting because it seemed like maybe

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 1>it's avice into a certain extent. It's like clowns reclaiming

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:29.360
<v Speaker 1>their territory. Okay, but there's no grease paint, is when

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm caring. There's no grease paint, but that he doesn't need.

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:35.120
<v Speaker 1>It's in a way it's kind of big shoes. Um,

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know. I don't know if I could see

0:31:37.240 --> 0:31:41.640
<v Speaker 1>his feet, but a lot of napkin eating. Okay, alright,

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:44.240
<v Speaker 1>So so Julia is still not convent but I'm gonna

0:31:44.320 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>check it out. We can we can talk about in

0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:50.560
<v Speaker 1>the next podcast. But I do I like this idea that, um,

0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe there's this return to this original sense of what

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it is to clown and take it out of this

0:31:56.160 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 1>other darker realm that I seem to think of, take

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:01.040
<v Speaker 1>it back to we were talking earlier about Comedia dell arte.

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, there's some rich roots to client. Maybe

0:32:04.120 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 1>we should actually do an episode on clowning. I don't

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:07.720
<v Speaker 1>know how we get into the science all that much,

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:12.240
<v Speaker 1>but uh, yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah, all right, Well,

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>thanks Lizzy for letting us know about that. If any

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.080
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0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:22.320
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