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Speaker 1: your hosts Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross. Monday,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the s WBC Mortgage Living Room, Live in Prisco, Texas.
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross joined by my buddies, Kurt Daniels, Nate Newton,
Speaker 1: Jesse Holly. How you do with fellows? How are we
Speaker 1: well on Monday? How you doing? How you doing all right?
Speaker 1: All right? What's up? What's up? What's up? Doing great?
Speaker 1: Doing great? Um? Just trying to figure out what we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about. Things are starting to get repetitive.
Speaker 1: It's like every week we talk about dak because there's
Speaker 1: no contract on. We talk about Aldon Smith, we talk
Speaker 1: about is this team going to be ready to play football?
Speaker 1: So what, Kurt, where do you want to start? Should
Speaker 1: we go completely off topic or should we hit one
Speaker 1: of these things We've been talking about for the last
Speaker 1: seems like three or four weeks. I don't know. How
Speaker 1: you feel like you're kind of you're right, it's repetitive.
Speaker 1: But McCarthy did just talk this week or last week.
Speaker 1: He did an interview with the media and I don't know,
Speaker 1: kind of reaffirming what Jesse was talking about in the
Speaker 1: show a week before about how I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of an exciting feeling of what he's bringing. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he's I think he's sort of amenity is a
Speaker 1: little behind. Um, just because he hadn't even had a
Speaker 1: full meeting yet with his team. I think he said
Speaker 1: his WebEx wouldn't a comedy ninety players, so um, he's
Speaker 1: having to do it kind of piecemeal. But he seems
Speaker 1: to like the progress that's being made. He's trying to, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, maximize his time, trying to plan ahead and
Speaker 1: stay adaptable. I hope it works out. I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys worried about this at all? I mean, is it?
Speaker 1: I guess everybody's in the same boat. His guys with
Speaker 1: that has that as smart as Einstein, and then the
Speaker 1: guys that are dominant bricks. He will wait, did it start?
Speaker 1: You're gonna find a hear go be too happy? Yes, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm just being in the locker room. And Jesse, you
Speaker 1: can attest it is being in the locker room guys
Speaker 1: who dress and always look sharp, and they don't. It
Speaker 1: ain't always sharp. No, But to Kurt, to kurtch point,
Speaker 1: you know, and that this isn't in the Cowboys locker room, right,
Speaker 1: that's in all thirty two NFL teams locker room. You
Speaker 1: have the rights, and you have the not so brights,
Speaker 1: and you have those who pick it up easy and
Speaker 1: those who don't pick it up so easy. Um again
Speaker 1: that the hardest part about this entire transition is unlike,
Speaker 1: for example, a team like New Orleans or a team
Speaker 1: like Kansas City or a team like Seattle, who who
Speaker 1: didn't have a whole overhaul, right, and a lot of
Speaker 1: their core guys are guys who have been under the
Speaker 1: same system, in the same system, under the same coaches
Speaker 1: for a large majority of their career. So when you're
Speaker 1: talking about trying to get a leg up or you know,
Speaker 1: get back into some sort of mold, whenever this thing,
Speaker 1: you know, opens back up up really soon, for a
Speaker 1: lot of these teams, you know, those guys, the learning curve,
Speaker 1: the learning period won't be as drastic as you say,
Speaker 1: for a team like this, who has a whole new
Speaker 1: overhaul offensively, defensively, special teams. So you know, you kind
Speaker 1: of want to get in and want to get these
Speaker 1: guys goment so that you're able to speed up that process.
Speaker 1: So you know, as a coach, how could because the
Speaker 1: thing is is that you want to be able to
Speaker 1: fairly evaluate your talent based on the things that you've
Speaker 1: seen them do under your tutelage and in your system. Right,
Speaker 1: So it's so hard to evaluate a guy. And as
Speaker 1: we get closer and closer and closer to training camp,
Speaker 1: coaches use that ota. The mini camps, the rookie mini camps,
Speaker 1: all those are evaluation periods and you get a chance
Speaker 1: to put your eyes on gods and you can say
Speaker 1: to yourself, we like him, we don't like him. He's
Speaker 1: going to be a good asset. He might not be
Speaker 1: a good asset. We want this guy to be around,
Speaker 1: but we gotta work harder than him. And this so
Speaker 1: being not being able to have these guys around and
Speaker 1: seeing them literally put in the white of your eyes
Speaker 1: on these guys each and every day, it makes it
Speaker 1: a lot harder when they come to the evaluation process.
Speaker 1: Now you might have to almost rush things when you
Speaker 1: get in the training camp because you're saying, I don't
Speaker 1: have time to fully evaluate this guy, and I don't
Speaker 1: have time to fully see this guy immersed into my system,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be a lot of nervous guys. When
Speaker 1: you get into a new offense and you get into
Speaker 1: a new system, they're gonna be a lot of guys
Speaker 1: who just don't know it, don't understand it, and are
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit apprehensive in their approach to
Speaker 1: You know, a coach always tell you, I want you
Speaker 1: to know this so you can play at your fastest.
Speaker 1: When you know to steal a Jason Garrett turn. When
Speaker 1: you know that you know that you know that you
Speaker 1: know you play at you play at a speed much
Speaker 1: greater than those who are thinking they know or trying
Speaker 1: to figure out as they go. So that's the biggest
Speaker 1: thing about this process is is how can I fully
Speaker 1: evalue guys that I have not actually seen, not only
Speaker 1: physically but mentally, and how they fit in my scheming,
Speaker 1: in my system. Then you gotta be you gotta be
Speaker 1: careful when to see when when when they do start
Speaker 1: training who's in this type of shape, who's not in
Speaker 1: this type of shape? Because who is ready to go
Speaker 1: doing training camp? Who is not ready to go? It
Speaker 1: is so many factors playing into these guys with a
Speaker 1: new coaching staff. I mean from top to bottom, like Jennie,
Speaker 1: from special teams up to the offense cluding your defense.
Speaker 1: Now now you this this thing is gonna be funny.
Speaker 1: Uh and you're you're gonna want to kind of beat
Speaker 1: up personally if they will let us in. I let
Speaker 1: us building. You want to see this for yourself how
Speaker 1: this thing builds up week by week once they get back.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to be in every little thing I
Speaker 1: can be in because I don't want to get in
Speaker 1: no second hand. I want to see for myself how
Speaker 1: these guys fit in. Because we're all excited about the
Speaker 1: new coaching staff. But what's gonna be the biggest deal
Speaker 1: is not so much offensive, but what Mike Nolan gonna
Speaker 1: bring defensive, what coach Fossill go bring to the special
Speaker 1: team for veteran players to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: And they're gonna spend a lot of training camp getting
Speaker 1: guys in shape. I'm sorry, but I promise you I
Speaker 1: promise you. I promise you. Guys, there are a large
Speaker 1: majority of guys who won't be in shape. There are
Speaker 1: a lot, like we see the video clips come out
Speaker 1: every once in a while, a lot of these cats
Speaker 1: ain't working out hard. A lot of these cats don't
Speaker 1: have themselves in the shape that they're gonna need to
Speaker 1: be in heading into training camp. So as another factor
Speaker 1: is is how do we training will this thing? Because
Speaker 1: you want guys to go full speed, but you talk
Speaker 1: about you know, we've had soft tissue issues here in
Speaker 1: cowboy Land before. You're gonna see a lot of soft groins, hamstrings,
Speaker 1: calves of that type of nature. Because you're gonna go
Speaker 1: from doing absolutely nothing or very little to now ramping
Speaker 1: it up to one hundred miles an hour when you
Speaker 1: have another guy in front of you, and that competition
Speaker 1: breeds for you to go an extra You know your
Speaker 1: your your RPMs get ramped up a lot. So do
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna spend a lot of this time
Speaker 1: getting the condition? Do you think that now this will
Speaker 1: never happen? But do you think in a perfect world
Speaker 1: they would training camp would be longer or are they
Speaker 1: gonna have to spend more time with the conditioning part
Speaker 1: before they can really get in the meat and potatoes.
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, the thing is is that if
Speaker 1: you push training camp to be longer, that mean you
Speaker 1: have to push the season back something so that that
Speaker 1: that throws off everything. I think they're gonna still try
Speaker 1: to get Maybe they you know, maybe they move it
Speaker 1: up a little bit. You know, it normally starts in
Speaker 1: you know, kind of that mid July ish time. Maybe
Speaker 1: they may move it up to early July to give
Speaker 1: you another week or so into it. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know how the players will react to that. Some
Speaker 1: maybe open to that and welcome to that. But again,
Speaker 1: a lot of the onus comes to your big you
Speaker 1: know it should be and it's not because we are
Speaker 1: creatures of habit as athletes. While we our entire lives.
Speaker 1: As far as athletes, we are able to function at
Speaker 1: a high level. But it's always been instructional. Someone has
Speaker 1: always been there to hey, you got to be here
Speaker 1: at six am. A strength coach is there, a training
Speaker 1: a trainer is there? A nutritionist is there? Someone feeds you,
Speaker 1: someone lifts you, someone you know, everything is we come
Speaker 1: in and we're able to do it at a level
Speaker 1: higher than other people, but there's always been a set
Speaker 1: of structure and someone there to implement it, you know,
Speaker 1: for happening. A lot of these guys don't know how
Speaker 1: to function on their own. A lot of these guys
Speaker 1: don't know what it is to really have to turn
Speaker 1: over that, you know, turn into that new person where
Speaker 1: you're the only one that's accountable for you. It's different
Speaker 1: when you just kind of you know, you can come
Speaker 1: and do your job as far as a player, but
Speaker 1: getting yourself in shape, you know, running their routes and
Speaker 1: I know that everyone has a different sort of trainer
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but are these guys and there
Speaker 1: are some I'm not saying, oh, there are some that
Speaker 1: are putting in the proper work because they you know,
Speaker 1: whether it's contract year or you know, guys are trying
Speaker 1: to just kind of back better. But there are a lot,
Speaker 1: especially when we're talking about the younger guys who are
Speaker 1: just learning what it means to be a professional. There
Speaker 1: are a lot of those guys who are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I work out on Monday and Tuesday real hard, but
Speaker 1: you won't I want nothing again until Saturday. So that's
Speaker 1: taking you know, taking a step forward and then two
Speaker 1: steps back when it comes to condition and in stript
Speaker 1: training and all that kind of stuff. And again when
Speaker 1: you get to massing those bodies together, those three hundred
Speaker 1: pound guys, those two hundred fifty pound guys, and now
Speaker 1: you know your little thirty minute workout doesn't compare to
Speaker 1: when you run over five to ten miles in routes
Speaker 1: all day. Your legs are heavy, and that's when those
Speaker 1: tough tissue issues come up, come about with the hamstrings
Speaker 1: and the calves and the groins and all the other stuff.
Speaker 1: And now you'll be seeing a lot of guys now
Speaker 1: meeting days off and he's going to be out for
Speaker 1: a couple of days. That that kills you in the
Speaker 1: sense of you had nothing prior to this to get
Speaker 1: these guys the knowledge that they need for the offense,
Speaker 1: defense and or special teams. And now and I'm just
Speaker 1: using this name, I'm not saying him. I'm just using
Speaker 1: this name. But if Amari's now his quad is hurting,
Speaker 1: so now he has to sit out a week and
Speaker 1: a half a training camp, I can't evaluate him. I
Speaker 1: can't see what this offense and these plays look like
Speaker 1: that we want to run with Amari that we put
Speaker 1: in for Amari and all this other stuff. He's on
Speaker 1: the sideline because he has a hamstring or a quad injury,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's a lot of
Speaker 1: that going to factor into what we do in these
Speaker 1: next coming you know, next couple of weeks, a month. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And when you heard what New Orleans coach Coach Payton said,
Speaker 1: he said because he has a core guys that know
Speaker 1: what's expected, They know who they are and what they're about,
Speaker 1: and they have goals set in stone that they're all
Speaker 1: trying to achieve. Those fifty to sixty guys core guys.
Speaker 1: When you got a guy with new coach and new
Speaker 1: players and new systems, I'm with you one hundred percent, Jess.
Speaker 1: These guys are gonna be scrammling. And the ones that
Speaker 1: are on the bubble golfer bids you coming out of
Speaker 1: shape are not ready to go because they're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna blow passion. Man, They're gonna blow passion. And I
Speaker 1: would be in panic mode if just Nate person is
Speaker 1: coming from where I came from, I would be kind
Speaker 1: of panic mode. So I won't be my fattest of
Speaker 1: my fattest like I know him to be Donna training Camp.
Speaker 1: I agree with Jesse Kirk like these guys, a lot
Speaker 1: of them are gonna come in out of shape, because
Speaker 1: I mean, Jesse proves it to us every Monday. If
Speaker 1: you don't have someone sitting there making him get on
Speaker 1: the call, he's not gonna show him off. And if
Speaker 1: he shows Chris Bean's shout out to Chris Bean from
Speaker 1: making sure I'm always on time. And even if he
Speaker 1: shows up, if somebody's not there to put his camera
Speaker 1: the white way, he's gonna show up with his camera sideways.
Speaker 1: Shout out to shout out of Chris Bean forgetting my
Speaker 1: camera going the right way. Thank you Chris Bean. We
Speaker 1: need listen, get into a Chris Beam in your life.
Speaker 1: If you get to a Chris Beam in your life,
Speaker 1: you will be okay. So signed the Chris Being and
Speaker 1: make sure I'm one time signed the Chris Being to
Speaker 1: make sure my camera is facing the lay. I've I've
Speaker 1: been one to ask you guys this because I think
Speaker 1: we're we're going to see some really bad football the
Speaker 1: first several weeks of the season. Because I think with
Speaker 1: what you guys said, I don't think training camp is
Speaker 1: gonna be your normal training camp because they're gonna be
Speaker 1: worried about getting these guys who shape. I don't. I
Speaker 1: think they're probably gonna have to sacrifice some stuff in camp.
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, a little bit of time with tackling drills.
Speaker 1: Maybe it takes you an extra few days to get
Speaker 1: everybody into shape to pass conditioning tests where they don't
Speaker 1: get the reps they normally would. I think football will
Speaker 1: will get back to the quality football that we're used
Speaker 1: to seeing, but I think it may take a few
Speaker 1: extra weeks. I mean, you see it now, whenever the
Speaker 1: guys don't get the reps in preseason games, the tackling
Speaker 1: is bad. You know, you have miscommunications on routes. What
Speaker 1: do you guys think, as far as you know, when
Speaker 1: the season does start the first few weeks, are we
Speaker 1: gonna see some some bad football? I think we're gonna
Speaker 1: see it. I think we're gonna see training camp. As
Speaker 1: far as preseason games done differently, I think you're going
Speaker 1: to see more of the veteran guys playing in more
Speaker 1: of the games, more longer extended periods of time. You know,
Speaker 1: we always we always gear up for that third preseason
Speaker 1: game the veteran game. I think you're gonna start seeing
Speaker 1: those veteran guys because they didn't have any off season work,
Speaker 1: they didn't have an opportunity to get together and come together.
Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna use those games now again
Speaker 1: working themselves back in shape, working themselves back in the rhythm.
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see a lot more guys,
Speaker 1: your your Drew Breeses and Michael Thomas's and Tyreek Hills
Speaker 1: and of the world's Tom Brady's, of the world's playing
Speaker 1: you know, in preseason game number one for two and
Speaker 1: a half, quarters, in preseason game number two, four half,
Speaker 1: in preseason game number three four, you know, three quarters,
Speaker 1: and maybe even in preseason game number four for a
Speaker 1: quarter or two. Just trying to get those guys back
Speaker 1: in some sort of game like rhythm. And you know,
Speaker 1: there's only one way to get in football shape. Okay, guys,
Speaker 1: there's there's only one way. I don't care what you're doing.
Speaker 1: You know you can. It helps you if you contising
Speaker 1: yourself in the off season. There's only one way to
Speaker 1: get in football shape, and that's to actually play football.
Speaker 1: That is the only way. So to get guys and
Speaker 1: in football shape. I just don't mean lung capacity, being
Speaker 1: able to breathe. I mean just getting your body in
Speaker 1: that to be able to take that trauma. When you
Speaker 1: haven't literally hit anybody in months, your body begins to
Speaker 1: heal itself and go back to the natural form. You
Speaker 1: gotta get your shoulders. If you're a linebacker ready to
Speaker 1: take on a block again, you know, get those your
Speaker 1: arms being beat up in bruis, if you're a guard
Speaker 1: or tackle from being punched and hit all day. You know, receivers,
Speaker 1: your legs have to build that callous back up from
Speaker 1: running all day long. So getting yourself in ball condition
Speaker 1: can only happen if you're playing football. So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised if we start seeing those pieces in games
Speaker 1: use a lot differently this year than we have in
Speaker 1: the past. What the thing about it is Cowboys got
Speaker 1: the advantage due to the fact that they got in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame game, right A. So they got
Speaker 1: an extra week to put some things in place and
Speaker 1: to do some things. And I don't know how they're
Speaker 1: gonna play the players in the in the preseason, but
Speaker 1: it would be to the Cowboys advantage, you know, to
Speaker 1: make sure that guys use those extra preseason games, especially
Speaker 1: these guys that you have on the bubble. We don't
Speaker 1: want to come into this season, you know hearing that, Hey,
Speaker 1: well we're still trying to get guys right. You got
Speaker 1: an extra week. You gotta have guys right, because the
Speaker 1: way we start this season is going to dictate a
Speaker 1: lot of how we finished this season. We can't do
Speaker 1: what we did last year, start this great run, then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden lose two or three games two
Speaker 1: teams that are playoff ready and playoff bound. That's not happening.
Speaker 1: If you get behind this year, you're not catching up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see to lead at that's a good kind of
Speaker 1: like that. That extra preseason game, the Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: game has kind of looked at is a bad thing
Speaker 1: because it messes our schedule. It adds an extra game
Speaker 1: that you have potential for injuries and things like that.
Speaker 1: Really it's you know, the last preseason game. No one's
Speaker 1: really making the team or not making the team that
Speaker 1: that game anyway, because they pretty much have their minds
Speaker 1: made up. So it's a great point. That's this is
Speaker 1: actually an advantage I think this year because you get
Speaker 1: an extra look at these guys and get them an
Speaker 1: extra game to get them in shape. Right. I first
Speaker 1: thought that everything would just maybe be simplified. They wouldn't,
Speaker 1: you know, get into as much expansion of the playbook
Speaker 1: or whatever. But they do have Callen Moore coming back,
Speaker 1: and they say that, you know, the terminology of a
Speaker 1: new coach is maybe the biggest thing is he has
Speaker 1: different ways of doing things. But with more there, maybe
Speaker 1: things won't change that much and maybe they can expand
Speaker 1: it more than than we might think. Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about offensively, I'm not everything that I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: The special teams and and uh and the defensive coordinator
Speaker 1: he's gonna try to bring it his three four concepts
Speaker 1: because if we stay the same on defense, really you
Speaker 1: got to put to put something. You got to put
Speaker 1: some new that the special teams got. We got to start.
Speaker 1: I started point on special teams, I return average twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: On the twenty two yard line, you can't start there.
Speaker 1: We give up the thirty five. And on the game
Speaker 1: the twenty that's eight or nine ten yards a field
Speaker 1: position right there before we even start the game. Panna
Speaker 1: has to be one hundred percent better field goal guy
Speaker 1: should we mention that? So, yeah, that's what that's the
Speaker 1: big differences, not so much offensory is what got to
Speaker 1: happen special teams in defensive Let's take a quick break, fellas.
Speaker 1: I've got a question for you guys. I think everyone.
Speaker 1: Kirk's got a really cool poll some questions, and he's
Speaker 1: got about ten questions for us he's going to bring
Speaker 1: up later on in the show. One of the questions
Speaker 1: is how many games with the Cowboys win in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty and seventy three of the people that were polled
Speaker 1: said ten to eleven. With McCarthy coming in not being
Speaker 1: able to meet with the team, I think everyone expects
Speaker 1: this team to be better than it was last year.
Speaker 1: I think the majority people think it should be a
Speaker 1: lot better. Should we tap the brakes on the expectation
Speaker 1: this first year? Just because McCarthy is getting a late
Speaker 1: start and he's not able to get eyeballs on this team,
Speaker 1: He's not going to be able to evaluate these guys
Speaker 1: and may not really know what kind of team he
Speaker 1: has until close to if not into the season. I
Speaker 1: want to know your thoughts when we come back on
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Speaker 1: for you, fellas should we I think we're all excited.
Speaker 1: I think everyone on this show would probably be in
Speaker 1: agreeance that this team should have a better record than
Speaker 1: they have last year had last year by probably two
Speaker 1: to three games. Should we curb those expectations a little
Speaker 1: bit just because we have a new coach coming in,
Speaker 1: a new staff, they haven't been able to evaluate this talent.
Speaker 1: I think we should still be very excited. We should
Speaker 1: be super excited about the future and the direction that
Speaker 1: this team's going. But should we just tap the brakes
Speaker 1: a little bit about this year and just say, you
Speaker 1: know what, this is a year to get everything together.
Speaker 1: The coaching staff needs to figure everything out there. They're
Speaker 1: at a disadvantage because they're not able to get around
Speaker 1: the team. We don't know when that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: Should I not be as excited as I normally would
Speaker 1: be if this was a normal season. What do you
Speaker 1: guys think? Anyone jump in? I'll go first. You should
Speaker 1: absolutely be excited today, Kurt, Absolutely be excited. Nate, you
Speaker 1: should absolutely be excited because for the same reason that
Speaker 1: you say that, this team has a disadvantage because they
Speaker 1: haven't got a chance to get together one another, the
Speaker 1: team that they're playing has no film of this team
Speaker 1: wanting to see wanting to do what Mike McCarthy wants
Speaker 1: to do. I know that they makes baby to see
Speaker 1: film of what he's done before, but there's no film
Speaker 1: of what it looks like for this team and do
Speaker 1: the things that he wants to implement. So all those
Speaker 1: other sixteen teams that they'll be playing throughout the season,
Speaker 1: they don't know either. They don't know what to expect.
Speaker 1: They don't know when Amari Cooper is gonna line up
Speaker 1: every single time and one of these two yards outside
Speaker 1: of the numbers, you're gonna run one of two routes
Speaker 1: like they did before. They don't know what's my man name?
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones won't be like the kid from the Jets
Speaker 1: and walk to the line of scrimens and go, oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, this defense is staying in the same defense
Speaker 1: that I saw on film. No, there's going to be
Speaker 1: a different look to this football team. And even though
Speaker 1: that this team may not fully understand everything that it
Speaker 1: wants to do the opposing team, whether that be offense, defense,
Speaker 1: and special team from the opposing team, they have no
Speaker 1: idea either. So I must rather be on the side
Speaker 1: where I have some understanding of what we're doing than
Speaker 1: to be on the other side to have zero understanding
Speaker 1: of what we're doing. And even if you have a
Speaker 1: resemblance of what Mike McCarthy or Mike Nolan or Fossil
Speaker 1: that had done a bore in the past, you've never
Speaker 1: seen it done with these type of players or these
Speaker 1: type of athletes. So you're one hundred percent should be
Speaker 1: excited for this new look Cowboys team offense, defensive, special
Speaker 1: teams because for all the reason that you're saying that
Speaker 1: they may be at a disadvantage on their side, they're
Speaker 1: at a supreme advantage because those other teams have no
Speaker 1: idea what they're facing. There is no film, There is
Speaker 1: no cut ups of Amrii Cooper and Seeding Lamb and
Speaker 1: Michael running these different concept routes or what Zeke looks
Speaker 1: like running these different you know, zone running things that
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy may be implementing into his system. The same
Speaker 1: thing with if Mike Nolan is going to this three
Speaker 1: four four three type of hybrid defense, the opposing team's
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator hasn't never seen what this thing will look like.
Speaker 1: He doesn't know if we're gonna line up on first
Speaker 1: down on three four or four three, or what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do on rushdowns? Are we blessing safeties or corners? Now,
Speaker 1: when we get to the midpoint of the season, there'll
Speaker 1: be some sort of film there, but we hope that
Speaker 1: by that time our office will begin to grow, our
Speaker 1: defense will begin to grow, We'll be get more comfortable
Speaker 1: in that and we can do more things and have
Speaker 1: more variations. So I want you to be absolutely excited
Speaker 1: about this football team, this coaching staff, and what they'll
Speaker 1: be going to be able to do, because those other
Speaker 1: teams that they're playing has no clue. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: man that you go on they zoom meets because you
Speaker 1: just brought the come on, come on, wow. Yeah it's
Speaker 1: nice yet bow Man, you brought that. You know, I
Speaker 1: agree it. So you're thinking, I think ten wins is
Speaker 1: definitely manageable. I mean, are you're thinking better than that?
Speaker 1: What was their record last year? What shot far get
Speaker 1: they will get two more wins? Just because Jason Garrett's
Speaker 1: not here. I'm telling you I had a good a
Speaker 1: head coach gives you a win and a half in
Speaker 1: a season, So I'm I'm I'm adding a win and
Speaker 1: a half to this team simply because Jason Garrett is
Speaker 1: no longer at the home. I say two wins, A
Speaker 1: good coach, give you two and a half wins. I
Speaker 1: see it every I see it every year in the
Speaker 1: college left and the pros. So you're thinking them to
Speaker 1: go eighteen and oh this year, well, Shannon, Wow, that
Speaker 1: way to take shot, said mister Wins. I was just
Speaker 1: I'm just echoing with Jesse said. I mean, he said
Speaker 1: one and a half wins. I said two. Now, when
Speaker 1: I believe in coaching, I believe that is a coach
Speaker 1: Can is allowed to be himself and his word is law.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm with mccarthur. But I just I just want
Speaker 1: to see what our defense is gonna do, and we'll
Speaker 1: know within the first five or six games. Then I
Speaker 1: could really be more confident and be as confidence as
Speaker 1: Jesse is. Nice. I think we might have lost, Shannon.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I think the ween stopped. I
Speaker 1: think the wing stopped. Got it, we stopped got it?
Speaker 1: But something. But but here's here's the thing. I think
Speaker 1: with this team, talent alone, like this is a talent.
Speaker 1: This talent alone, and and I know people a lot
Speaker 1: of people said last year, well, we misevaluated this team
Speaker 1: because we know that all the names are there. But
Speaker 1: I think just with this type of talent, this is
Speaker 1: a nine ten win team. Like just I mean like literally,
Speaker 1: like this is a good on paper football team. Match
Speaker 1: all the names. You're saying, the talent, no matter who's coaching,
Speaker 1: they should win at least nine or ten. But with
Speaker 1: the coaching you can get up to eleven twelve. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, listen, with bad coaching, we got eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got eight every year, Like every year you can
Speaker 1: countless for eight with bad coaching, with with predictable coaching,
Speaker 1: bad coaching, lack of accountability, lack of creativity, and lack
Speaker 1: of evolution, all of those things, we got eight. Right,
Speaker 1: So let's just let's just walk into this thing and
Speaker 1: saying we got eight. He took all the god he
Speaker 1: took all the gods. Fact inside of that. So I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like we're walking in way and creativity as
Speaker 1: as long as we have a healthy quarterback. And we
Speaker 1: all know that across the National Football League, if your
Speaker 1: quarterback goes down, you know, and I know that the
Speaker 1: nick Fole situation, that's more of a an like that
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. That's an animal like that. That stuff doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: Quarterback don't come in and go back in. Quarterback don't
Speaker 1: come in and go win super Bowl. They're gonna win
Speaker 1: a game or two. But if you lose your franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: your season is pretty much, you know, down the drain
Speaker 1: for the most part. So if we keep a healthy quarterback,
Speaker 1: we walk into the season with eight, we walk in
Speaker 1: we know that, we know we got eight. Everything else
Speaker 1: on that we should just be growing off from eight.
Speaker 1: So whether that means ten, twelve, fourteen, whatever, we walk
Speaker 1: in with eight, we walk into a year. We ain't
Speaker 1: doing that two times. I don't know math, I'm just saying, man,
Speaker 1: so he So, what would make this season? This is
Speaker 1: one of the questions we've kind of been talking about
Speaker 1: the survey, But what would make it the season is success?
Speaker 1: Then do you think ten wins is a success or
Speaker 1: they gotta they got you know they did that in
Speaker 1: the asking, didn't do anything the playoffs do they gotta
Speaker 1: make a good playoff run? Then this first year, McCarthy,
Speaker 1: you gotta make a good playoff run. You have to
Speaker 1: like you have to like that's that is still the standard.
Speaker 1: Like the standard is you have to you have to
Speaker 1: have a you, I mean, super Bowl is the standard.
Speaker 1: But at some point in time you gotta say, all right,
Speaker 1: let's get to the NFC Championship game. Like we all right,
Speaker 1: Like okay, okay, y'all want to do reality. Y'all want
Speaker 1: to do what's for real? Nate, we always do. Of
Speaker 1: course you're you're the only one that jumps in and
Speaker 1: out of reality with us. We always the only person
Speaker 1: on this show that's been on a been on a reality,
Speaker 1: non real, non reality TV show that says we only
Speaker 1: deal in reality. We only deal a reality. Baby, y'all
Speaker 1: can jump on me all you want. But if we
Speaker 1: win our division, which should be easy to do, and
Speaker 1: if we get these level wins, we should win the
Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs, and that that start there
Speaker 1: when your division, when you when you win your first
Speaker 1: game and then go from there, I call that success.
Speaker 1: I call that success because because yes I do, Yes
Speaker 1: I do. Because McCarthy gonna get us staff. He should
Speaker 1: get us stat with with with with with with an
Speaker 1: average defense and special teams that won't hurt you. They
Speaker 1: should get us that right there, that should be basic.
Speaker 1: Now you're predicting NFC championship game, if you go to
Speaker 1: if you have a shot in the Super Bowl, that
Speaker 1: is truly truly icing on the cape with Strawberry and everything.
Speaker 1: So you know, but I'm talking about him on a real,
Speaker 1: real look at what the Cowboys should do. I'm talking
Speaker 1: about a real look, not not you know, not all
Speaker 1: the cheering and the raw rod and the xfls and
Speaker 1: all of that. Right now, I'm talking about what should
Speaker 1: really happen. See, I think if you first year coach,
Speaker 1: I think if you have eleven or twelve wins, you
Speaker 1: win the division, you get to the playoffs, and you
Speaker 1: win that first game playoff game. I think that's even
Speaker 1: if you make it to the playoffs. I think with
Speaker 1: what this team has done, I think you win eleven
Speaker 1: or twelve games and you get in the playoffs and
Speaker 1: you say you get you don't you know, you have
Speaker 1: a great showing in the playoffs. To me, that's a
Speaker 1: great building block. Now you guys have the standard, I
Speaker 1: guess a little bit higher. Jesse and Nate, No, I
Speaker 1: don't want to no, no, I don't. I think that's
Speaker 1: to me that success Curti I think that's eleven wins year,
Speaker 1: eleven wins in a first round wine. But I think
Speaker 1: you gotta get a playoff. You gotta get a playoff
Speaker 1: win for this to be. But now it changes you.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta get it win. But it changes for me.
Speaker 1: If you get twelve wins, that means you beat somebody.
Speaker 1: That means you beat somebody and you show them, You
Speaker 1: show the league who you are. When you get twelve wins,
Speaker 1: you show them you beat you have beat some people,
Speaker 1: and you show the league who you are. Twelve wins
Speaker 1: and no playoff wins, I don't know about that. No,
Speaker 1: no twelve wins. Then I'm looking for something a little
Speaker 1: bit more than just that first round win you want. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I need to. I need it for real now, Jesse,
Speaker 1: you can throw your hands up that one or two
Speaker 1: game mix. A difference bro between having hole between having
Speaker 1: whole fill advantage throughout the playoffs. How did it be
Speaker 1: a wild card chance? Jes stopped stop that changing me. Jesse.
Speaker 1: You're you're right, You're right, you are, you're entitled, you
Speaker 1: know yeah you yeah, you're right right, I mean I
Speaker 1: know you. Jesize. I apologize, Yeah, I apologize, I know
Speaker 1: you to that, Jesse. I'm one that don't take shots
Speaker 1: as you when you show up two minutes before the show,
Speaker 1: Me and chrispire working to make sure you right. Hey,
Speaker 1: and before we go in the front of y'all, Tay
Speaker 1: Kurt looking good. His wife cut his hair. This is
Speaker 1: the cheapest doing America. Won't buy a phone. Wife cuts
Speaker 1: his hair. Well, she's had to cut my hair. The
Speaker 1: places have been closed. Man. Oh no, oh, you scraggly guys,
Speaker 1: get your wives cut your hair. Na. Now we're gonna
Speaker 1: do that. Man, Jess, gonna hold on for dear life.
Speaker 1: I can't see what my man uh uh shadow, yeah,
Speaker 1: sh I got a head on. He's smart. I guess yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm not cutting until I go back to work. And
Speaker 1: the only clothes that Kurt wears the clothes that the
Speaker 1: team provides. If you notice the come on, you gotta
Speaker 1: be the cheapest dude many But Jess, I'm serious. That
Speaker 1: one game. That's how to one game, Stay rich, Kurt,
Speaker 1: that's how to. Don't listen to it, man, I gotta
Speaker 1: get there first. Let your wife cut your hair. Save
Speaker 1: the money, man, Chris clothes man, Chris, just something everybody
Speaker 1: is in the Wild Car Weekend, they're playing the way
Speaker 1: they got the new schedule. What did you put up?
Speaker 1: Chris Beam? Hit that back again? Please? It says everyone
Speaker 1: plays in the Wild Car Round except one team that's
Speaker 1: the first number one seed gets to buy. So that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You gotta everybody gets into the everybody
Speaker 1: playing a week one. You gotta come on, man. But
Speaker 1: I'm with that. I'm with that. But if you get
Speaker 1: twelve wins, just I mean in the old way that
Speaker 1: was home feeling advantage. You know, if you got twelve,
Speaker 1: you'd be like, man, what more win gonna guarantee us this? Right? No, No,
Speaker 1: I'm butt you. We want to be at the crib man.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be traveling. Absolutely, I agree with you. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying to me. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: would you rather come to my house and eat wings?
Speaker 1: So would you rather be come to your house and
Speaker 1: he win where you could just sit there and do
Speaker 1: your thing When you threw you could just go to be.
Speaker 1: Before we take our last break and next next segment, Kurt,
Speaker 1: I want to get into that that pole we're talking
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Speaker 1: You want to give you the pole, Yes sir, Yes sir,
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Speaker 1: and I don't think I can finish out this show
Speaker 1: without us touching on real quick. What's going on in
Speaker 1: America right now? What's going on in Dallas? What's going
Speaker 1: on all across the country. I don't have the answers.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I know we got to
Speaker 1: figure this out, fellas, We've got to figure this out
Speaker 1: as human beings as people like, we've got to figure
Speaker 1: out how to love each other and treat each other
Speaker 1: equal and just like I said, and don't have the answers.
Speaker 1: I am lost for words the last few days. And
Speaker 1: I just I don't feel good as a human being.
Speaker 1: And Jesse, before Nate took us in the gutter, we said,
Speaker 1: I like, I like your shirt. You're not the best
Speaker 1: artist in the world plus plus plus for effort, and
Speaker 1: I like it. And I just I just wanted to
Speaker 1: give you guys a few minutes. I don't want to
Speaker 1: get too deep into this because this is a football show,
Speaker 1: and I think sports do a really good job of
Speaker 1: letting people escape whatever reality they're in. But right now,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to feel as a human. And
Speaker 1: you guys, go ahead. You got me to go first. Sure, yeah,
Speaker 1: because after you get through, we won't be able to
Speaker 1: say that. You're right, I'll say it. I'll say it
Speaker 1: for all of us. No, um, we are. We are
Speaker 1: living in some in some these last couple of days
Speaker 1: have been have been tough on me and the people
Speaker 1: who look like me. But you know what we're seeing now,
Speaker 1: We're seeing a culmination of people being sick and tired
Speaker 1: people of color, black people being sick and tired of
Speaker 1: being sick and tired of police brutality. And I know
Speaker 1: that we aren't blaming every single police officer. We're not.
Speaker 1: We're not. But you know when when people say, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a you know, bad bunch, you know, a couple
Speaker 1: of bad apples in a bunch. Uh. Chris Rock talked
Speaker 1: about this in the comedy thing and he said, there's
Speaker 1: certain professions that just can't have bad apples, right. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, police are one of them, Like you can't
Speaker 1: have bad pilots, right, think about thinking about having you
Speaker 1: like yo, Well, I just crashed into a mountain a day,
Speaker 1: like you just in certain professions, especially when you swear,
Speaker 1: you swore an oath to protect and serve the communities
Speaker 1: that you win, you can't have these bad apples. And
Speaker 1: so I think one of the things that we have
Speaker 1: to do collectively, as as as a community, as as
Speaker 1: a group of people, is that we need black men,
Speaker 1: black people. We need the Kurt Daniels, we need the
Speaker 1: Shannon Gross, we need the Chris Beans of the world,
Speaker 1: the people who don't look like us to speak up
Speaker 1: for us. We're doing a bunch of screaming. We're doing
Speaker 1: a bunch of talking. We've tried peacefully, we've tried all
Speaker 1: these other things, and we still have been ignored. And
Speaker 1: what we're seeing across the country now is what happens
Speaker 1: when your when your peacefulness and you're pleading and your
Speaker 1: crying out for help goes unanswered and it's ignored. You
Speaker 1: now have hurt, You now have anger. And so when
Speaker 1: we say these things, we need those who don't look
Speaker 1: like us, but who love us and say that that
Speaker 1: we're their brothers and their uh and their sisters, and
Speaker 1: they stand with us. We need their voices, we need
Speaker 1: their uh we need them to use their platform to
Speaker 1: speak out against those type of injustice that we see
Speaker 1: all across the board. No, you're never going to know
Speaker 1: what it's like to walk out of the house each
Speaker 1: and every day and feel like how I feel or
Speaker 1: how Nate feels, and think it's today the day that
Speaker 1: simply because the color of my skin, I will be
Speaker 1: treated differently than other people. And I know that you
Speaker 1: that's that's not the life that you live, but that's
Speaker 1: the life that we live. And so we always we
Speaker 1: want to make sure that those who call themselves our friends,
Speaker 1: those who call themselves our brothers, and who love us
Speaker 1: that don't look like us, that they speak up for us,
Speaker 1: because this senseless act of police brutality and for killing
Speaker 1: unarmed people has to stop. It has to stop, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to live in this society like this anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm fearful every time that I leave the house that
Speaker 1: will this be the day that I don't return simply
Speaker 1: because the color of my skin. So what you're seeing
Speaker 1: across the country right now is a group of people
Speaker 1: of colored, people of black people saying I'm sick and
Speaker 1: tired of being sick and tired. I've been ignored. I've
Speaker 1: done everything you've asked me to do over years, not
Speaker 1: just not over years, tens and twenties and hundreds of
Speaker 1: years of asking can you please treat us better? Can
Speaker 1: you please value our lives? Can you please you like,
Speaker 1: don't just treat us like animals. We're human beings. And
Speaker 1: so now you're seeing the residual effects of that. And
Speaker 1: I hope that we can come up with with answers.
Speaker 1: And you know we don't. We don't people say, you know,
Speaker 1: we need we need more. Martin Luther kings of the world. No,
Speaker 1: we don't. We we had to Martin Luther King. They
Speaker 1: assassinated him. We need more people that don't look like
Speaker 1: us speaking for us, and I think that will go
Speaker 1: a long way in changing laws. Get out and vote locally, uh,
Speaker 1: in your in your cities, get out and vote presidentially
Speaker 1: government wise, because we have to get people in place
Speaker 1: that's going to that's going to actually look out for
Speaker 1: us and care for us. Hey, man, my brother, that's
Speaker 1: all they need to be said. We'll put Jesse, thank you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: ready to move its own man, because I told you
Speaker 1: before we started this you can go on father enough,
Speaker 1: but Jesse said it nicely. Thank you, Jesse. Ye, good job, Jesse.
Speaker 1: We gotta give this out, man, gotta get this figured out,
Speaker 1: all right, Kurt, you gotta poll whatever kind of poll, Nate.
Speaker 1: So now look, yeah, how are we How do we
Speaker 1: transition from a very moving PSA going thank you? Rules
Speaker 1: of any cars, Shannon Gross can make basketball transition. Great job,
Speaker 1: that's how you get taken again. Wow, that's awful, you're
Speaker 1: walking awful, You're welcome. Well, you know you that's funny.
Speaker 1: You could at least said something like, well, we took
Speaker 1: up survey. These are the things that came from the survey.
Speaker 1: You could have been thinking up something, right my dad
Speaker 1: and survey. I don't know why. Oh you you have
Speaker 1: ten minutes. Two minutes. That's awful. Okay, So it's time
Speaker 1: down there on Northwest Highway. Brother about the lake, baby, Okay,
Speaker 1: So if I try to get this back on the rails,
Speaker 1: I don't know that's even possible anymore. But yeah. So
Speaker 1: the Athletic did a survey of Cowboys fans and they
Speaker 1: asked a bunch of questions. I pulled out a few
Speaker 1: of them, but kind of the state of the team
Speaker 1: and what people thought. They got about twenty three hundred
Speaker 1: responses or so, and some of them were sort of interesting.
Speaker 1: One of the questions, the first question asked was will
Speaker 1: the Cowboys win a Super Bowl in five years? And
Speaker 1: seventy one said yes. They thought if the Cowboys would
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl in five years, oh easy, I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree. They have to. They have to. They have
Speaker 1: is that window the next five years? That window maybe
Speaker 1: they don't get in the next five year, we probably
Speaker 1: will see it for another fifty This is it? This
Speaker 1: is it? Easy man? Come from Kurt. That was too
Speaker 1: easy to try another one? Kurt? Okay, all right, here
Speaker 1: we go here, here's here's one the Cowboys most valuable player,
Speaker 1: your elliot baby z. Two percent said Dak. Seventeen percent
Speaker 1: said Zeke. And I think come on, man, come on man.
Speaker 1: We all know it's the quarterback. We all know it's
Speaker 1: the quarterback. Followers the quarterback. Okay, go ahead, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: May turn your phone off, Nate, turn your phone off.
Speaker 1: Nick okay, okay, I think we might have Are you back? Kurt?
Speaker 1: Am I back? I think I'm back? All right? Sorry?
Speaker 1: What I got? Most most overrated player? Who do you think?
Speaker 1: They said? The most overrated player was these fans of
Speaker 1: ours Smith? That's all right, Jalen Smith was picked one.
Speaker 1: Number two was Zeke number three? What it's two reasons,
Speaker 1: it's two reasons why. It's two reasons why? Come in?
Speaker 1: Is the Zeke flat nut and it's the Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones Shannon factor. That's all the reason you're hair that
Speaker 1: Paul is now irrelevant. That's that's survey is now irrelevant players.
Speaker 1: My guess is not maybe not the player, but the position.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're thinking of the running back position is overrated.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know confidence in McCarthy that
Speaker 1: McCarthy can't get the job done. Uh, let's say sixty
Speaker 1: three percent gave him four out of a five that
Speaker 1: he would get the job done. Jess, And I want
Speaker 1: to add something to that, because you you big on this.
Speaker 1: You think that with his offensive mind that he would
Speaker 1: be so good to we can have a minimal defense.
Speaker 1: And so how do you take that with this with
Speaker 1: this survey? No, I say it. I think that is
Speaker 1: going to be the means of how they operate. They
Speaker 1: want to have a prolific offense that that I don't
Speaker 1: need my defense to be top ten. That's a luxury
Speaker 1: if they are. But we're gonna score so many points
Speaker 1: and we're gonna put so much pressure on the other
Speaker 1: team's offense to get out of rhythm and out of
Speaker 1: what they want to do because they're gonna be trailing
Speaker 1: us or afraid to give us the ball back. Um
Speaker 1: that they mess up, I do. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: they're gonna hang their hat on that offense and they're
Speaker 1: gonna tell their defense listen, we don't. We don't. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be the opposite of what the Ravens used to
Speaker 1: do back in the day. You know, it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: the defense would be like offense. Just don't turn the
Speaker 1: ball over and give us fourteen points. We'll take care
Speaker 1: of the rest. It's gonna be offense, you know. Defense,
Speaker 1: Just give up forty five points, we'll take care of
Speaker 1: the rest because we're gonna be able to score thirty
Speaker 1: five plus points a game. So I think they're they're
Speaker 1: looking at this saying, we don't have to have all
Speaker 1: these prime time names on defense because we're gonna light
Speaker 1: the score board up. Jerry're gonna have to ptain some
Speaker 1: light bulbs in the score because it's gonna be like
Speaker 1: like like a like a jackpot. It's gonna be school
Speaker 1: board gonna be lightening up so much. In defense, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be able to play with the lead. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to play with teams now having the past
Speaker 1: the ball a lot more than they can run the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put them one in one arm behind their back,
Speaker 1: and then we'll be able to attack. I do agree
Speaker 1: with that. I think it's gonna be the way they are.
Speaker 1: We're looking as you were talking through that, Jesse, are
Speaker 1: we looking at kind of the mentality of the remember
Speaker 1: the Rams, the greatest show on turf. Is that kind
Speaker 1: of the mentality that this team needs to takes. Yep,
Speaker 1: I am chiefs, Yeah, I am. I am with that.
Speaker 1: This is this is spread it out, pitch and catch,
Speaker 1: throw it around the park. Everybody gets some and we're
Speaker 1: just gonna beut you every which way we can, like
Speaker 1: every where you, every where you, everywhere you look. We're
Speaker 1: gonna abuse you. We're gonna abuse you on the outside.
Speaker 1: We're gonna abuse you in the slot. We're gonna use
Speaker 1: you down the middle. We're gonna bruise you between the tip.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bruise you like we're gonna gonna We're gonna
Speaker 1: abuse you every single way that you want, Like you
Speaker 1: don't want to be abused offensively. We're gonna get baby.
Speaker 1: Here we go. I ain't saying all last well, what
Speaker 1: did you just say? I said, we're gonna abuse you. Now,
Speaker 1: there's there're gonna be some things that be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can't abuse that. We're gonna abuse you like every
Speaker 1: now and again, we might run into a team that
Speaker 1: you know, got a little bit more, got a little
Speaker 1: bit more abusing in their blood than we do. Last year,
Speaker 1: he said they had to they had to score thirty
Speaker 1: points a game or look, they gotta get more than that. Now,
Speaker 1: if I say that this year, Kurt, when I get
Speaker 1: fired again, I said that last year I got fired.
Speaker 1: If I said this year, we want if I say
Speaker 1: that again this year, when I lose my job, when
Speaker 1: I keep my job, Uh, you got it. Let's no,
Speaker 1: but they are gonna they're gonna have to score thirty
Speaker 1: plus points a game. Yes, yea, and they should uh yeah,
Speaker 1: they definitely should. We we talked about this already, but
Speaker 1: sixty three percent of the fans on this UH poll
Speaker 1: said that for the season to be success, they had
Speaker 1: to reach the survey. Sixty three said they had to
Speaker 1: reach the NFC Championship, twenty two said they just had
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. So there's high expectations, of course,
Speaker 1: with the Dallas camp boys. Let's see, let's see which
Speaker 1: Das contract here highest paid. Thirty nine percent said that
Speaker 1: they would sign him even if he was the highest paid.
Speaker 1: Twenty eight percent said sign him but not the highest paid,
Speaker 1: and then twenty four percent said franchise tag and just
Speaker 1: let him play that. So there you get more of that.
Speaker 1: You got you gotta sign him, man, you got it,
Speaker 1: You got him, don't have him, you don't have a choice.
Speaker 1: Like Andy Dalton, I love you, but I don't feel
Speaker 1: good going into the season with that as your number one,
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's what this team signed it for.
Speaker 1: You gotta get this deal, Doug, And you know what,
Speaker 1: I think they're going to get it done. I think
Speaker 1: they're just both playing the waiting game and it's gonna
Speaker 1: come the week of Yeah. That's ESPN's Jeremy Fowler said,
Speaker 1: I think I'm a sports center Sunday that that he
Speaker 1: has heard Whoever, his sources are that if the team
Speaker 1: offered Dak a four year deal at thirty five million
Speaker 1: a year, that it'd be hard for Dak to pass up.
Speaker 1: Which if that's really true, I'm like, why aren't they.
Speaker 1: I mean, they should be giving that to him right now.
Speaker 1: They don't want that. They want that extra year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: team wants that extra year. They want that fifth year,
Speaker 1: to take that money out just a little bit longer
Speaker 1: and not have to come back to that because you
Speaker 1: think about it, like think about how fast in real
Speaker 1: life and in football life four years ago, Like you
Speaker 1: give him, you give him four years before you know it.
Speaker 1: And especially if we're going for what the poll says
Speaker 1: in four years. The poll said five. But if the
Speaker 1: poll says in those four years he wins a super
Speaker 1: Bowl and year three, you ain't getting the year four.
Speaker 1: In year three, if he wins a super Bowl, he
Speaker 1: gonna want a new deal. So you're looking at I'm
Speaker 1: back at the table again, and you think the fans
Speaker 1: are like, there are some fans who are saying pay him.
Speaker 1: There's something saying not pay him if he brings us
Speaker 1: a super Bowl in that four year window. There's not
Speaker 1: going to be a fan on this planet that is
Speaker 1: not like Jerry Stephen whoever name, last name is Jones.
Speaker 1: If you don't pay him whatever he want for us
Speaker 1: to run it back again. And now he's now the
Speaker 1: market has shifted. Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson has gone
Speaker 1: you know, the money has gone up. And now he
Speaker 1: can add because if he gets to a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: most likely he's probably going to be a Super Bowl MVP.
Speaker 1: So he adds a super Bowl MVP and a super
Speaker 1: Bowl to his resume. It's gonna it's gonna be forty
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year. So nice but that's that's
Speaker 1: pretty much and go check it out. It's the Athletic.
Speaker 1: They did a poll, there's a about thirty five, there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions, a lot of historical stuff. It's
Speaker 1: it's kind of a cool, cool article. Um. You also
Speaker 1: need to go check out on Twitter. Twitter Jesse's thread
Speaker 1: about his grandma one of the funniest things, saying if
Speaker 1: you haven't read that, go check it out. Putting it,
Speaker 1: I'll be putting. Today's her birthday. Rest in peace, Grandma.
Speaker 1: She you know she thought when I was in uh
Speaker 1: in college, she was my rock, she was my everything.
Speaker 1: She raised me and my two other brothers, and so
Speaker 1: throughout the day, I'm honoring her by telling stories of
Speaker 1: her throughout my lifetime. And so the first one I
Speaker 1: put up was bout a high school basketball game that
Speaker 1: I played in, and this particular team thought their mentality
Speaker 1: was if we get physical with Jesse and we rough
Speaker 1: him up, that we'll get him off his game. And
Speaker 1: so throughout the game they're trying to be physical with me,
Speaker 1: and a play happens. I go shoot a jump shot
Speaker 1: and a guy kind of like undercuts me a little
Speaker 1: bit and knocks me down and he stands over top
Speaker 1: of me, and I'm literally feet from my grandmother. So
Speaker 1: I'm upset. Now I've reached my limit. So I get
Speaker 1: up and I go, you know, if you do that again,
Speaker 1: I'm an f you up. And so you know, the
Speaker 1: referee separates us, and as I'm walking to the free
Speaker 1: throw line, my grandmother yells out. It's a home game,
Speaker 1: so it's a little bit quiet. My grandmother yells out
Speaker 1: over the crowd. Okay, Jess, you warned him. If he
Speaker 1: does it again, f him up. You have my permission,
Speaker 1: and trust me. She didn't say she said the full
Speaker 1: word in front of everybody, and like the like the
Speaker 1: section erupted over there. I kind of looked at her
Speaker 1: and looked at him and smiled and said, you heard
Speaker 1: what she said now and uh and so yeah, so
Speaker 1: I'll be I'll be putting out stories all day long,
Speaker 1: just the funny thing that my grandmother has done over
Speaker 1: my life with media sports. So yeah, log into at
Speaker 1: mister fourth and Long if you want to hear some
Speaker 1: great stories about my grandmother. Happy birthday, Grandma from heaven.
Speaker 1: I know I love you when I miss you. So
Speaker 1: it's not Jesse's fault. He's the way he is. This
Speaker 1: is not raining for generation. So mad at Jesse. Oh well, fellas,
Speaker 1: it's that time. We we gotta get out of here.
Speaker 1: I hate it. It could always do about three or
Speaker 1: four hours of this show. We need to lobby for that.
Speaker 1: We need to We need to do a show of
Speaker 1: thon one time. See how long we can talk for
Speaker 1: a run out of stuff. We need to push for that.
Speaker 1: Let's do that and raise money for charity. And while
Speaker 1: we're doing you, yea, let's do it. We can do that.
Speaker 1: That'd be fun. That'd be fun. Oh, I'm glad. I'm Jesse.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you were the shirt today. I think it's important.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you did. Thank me too. Thank you. Got
Speaker 1: to get this figured. Everybody put their head close to
Speaker 1: the phone. Everybody put the head close to the phone.
Speaker 1: Why why are we doing that? So we got it?
Speaker 1: Shannon in his game with Romes. Sorry, sorry, you're so sorry.
Speaker 1: All right, Fallas Kurt, thanks for getting your haircut, Jesse,
Speaker 1: Thanks Nate, thanks for joining us. We will be back
Speaker 1: next Monday on and Hanging with the Boys. It's been
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