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Speaker 2: That for me.

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Speaker 3: I'm a man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 3: You want to be happy for a day?

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Speaker 2: Either state?

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Speaker 3: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Woom woom, and them and tie.

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Speaker 3: Mister Speaker, the President of the United States, Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: my fellow college football fans, I am so proud to

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Speaker 3: be here today on this grandest and most venerable of stages,

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Speaker 3: groundbreaking chapter in college football history. For sure, defined by change,

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Speaker 3: but also by innovation, by passion, and by unparalleled excitement.

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Speaker 3: This is the year when the rubber finally meets the road.

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Speaker 3: Thank you that excitement touches all aspects of the game

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Speaker 3: we love. Conference realignment is bringing teams together and creating

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Speaker 3: new Saturday traditions. The College Football Playoff is ushering in

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Speaker 3: an era of inclusivity. Giving twelve teams a chance to

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Speaker 3: created chaos, for sure, but opportunities for many more student

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Speaker 3: athletes who for far too long have been denied the

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Speaker 3: transfer portal, while demonized by some, has given players yet

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Speaker 3: another important tool in shaping their futures. And those are

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Speaker 3: there are far more things to talk about. Quarterbacks with helmet,

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Speaker 3: after a decade long drought, we have a damn video game.

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Speaker 3: Let's not forget about the return of old rivalries like

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Speaker 3: the often imitated but never quite duplicated, the gold standard

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Speaker 3: for college football podcasts. The solid verbal is still alive

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Speaker 3: and well.

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Speaker 3: I have never felt more optimistic about where we're headed,

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Speaker 3: be tonight. I also extend a special and warm welcome

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Speaker 3: to our guest of honor, new head football coach for

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Speaker 3: the University of Washington, Jedfish, is here tonight. Jed embodies

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Speaker 3: realignment is finally here. It will not be without its challenges.

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Speaker 3: Along with new matchups, rivalries, and storylines, comes a deep

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Speaker 3: For decades, the sport has feigned inclusiveness while purposely designing

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Speaker 3: The expansion of the college football Playoff is a monumental

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Speaker 3: This is America. This new playoff system is like America.

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Speaker 3: For in the hallowed stadiums and fields where dreams are forged,

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Speaker 1: Bra vote, tie bravo. I can see how much effort

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Speaker 1: That'd be the Fox Television network. I bet you're wondering

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Speaker 1: That's great, can't wait. But let's look at the bigger picture.

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Speaker 1: Ty talks about inclusivity. Inclusivity a twelve team playoff, everybody

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Speaker 1: of touch, And I'm the one telling you. What you

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Speaker 1: to tell you, longtime New York Yankee fan, who are

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Speaker 1: Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams. Because there's something bedrock about knowing

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Speaker 1: what's great for him and his at the TV networks.

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Speaker 1: New actors, new actresses, new concepts. But yet he celebrates

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Speaker 1: His guest of honor is Jedfish. He brings up Kaylan

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Speaker 1: Tie's not a bad person. Ty's just the wrong person.

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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein and I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 3: All right, Dan, that was spirited.

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Speaker 1: I'm in a fugue state right now.

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Speaker 1: I have no idea what I just said.

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Speaker 3: Linking me to the networks was mean. Again, that was mean.

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Speaker 3: You told me before our little exchange there that I

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Speaker 1: No, it's all business, it's all politics.

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Speaker 3: Out of Fox Sports. Next, great sports writer, just make

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Speaker 3: there will be great games to watch on Saturdays, ultimately

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Speaker 1: I guess I think you want to beat the best

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Speaker 3: good to have it back.

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Speaker 3: The second thing, and I didn't hear you mentioned this,

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Speaker 3: It has certainly introduced chaos into college football. It has

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Speaker 3: But it also has forwarded players rights that they did

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, look, if you're in this role as being

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Speaker 1: Right that, Like that wasn't the spirit of the legislation.

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Speaker 3: Sure, my boy always way back with him? Right?

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Speaker 1: Was that six of seven? Yeah? What are we talking

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Speaker 1: your coach leaves, especially if circumstances in your life change,

430
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Speaker 1: especially if like a system changes. There are a number

431
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Speaker 1: of reasons where like player should transfer, And it's not

432
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Speaker 1: bad that a player would transfer to make more money,

433
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Speaker 1: that a player would leave a school that can't pay

434
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Speaker 1: his market value, but the ability at like a drop

435
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Speaker 1: of a hat, to just leave, to just hold up

436
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Speaker 1: a roster, to hold up bowl practices, to hold up

437
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Speaker 1: you know, a vision and plan moving forward. It doesn't

438
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Speaker 1: seem like the system is in a sustainable place.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I did not mention, I know we've

440
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Speaker 3: had this long disagreement about the playoff system since they

441
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Speaker 3: first made the playoff system, right, I have always said

442
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Speaker 3: since day one, I'll reiterate it. People who listen to

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Speaker 3: this show know that I've driven home this point until

444
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Speaker 3: I've been blue in the face. Four teams in the

445
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 3: old system was stupid. It was stupid because there were

446
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Speaker 3: five power conferences. Inherently one of them was going to

447
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Speaker 3: be left out. They designed it that way. They kind

448
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Speaker 3: of hid behind the logistics of it. But it was

449
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Speaker 3: always dumb to me that they would do that. I

450
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Speaker 3: always wanted more teams, always thought that would be better.

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Speaker 3: Now we could debate the merits of what's the right

452
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Speaker 3: number is at six? Is it eight?

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Speaker 1: Is it ten?

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Speaker 3: Is it twelve? At fourteen?

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Speaker 1: Two? Yeah, two.

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Speaker 3: I believe going to twelve is the right move. I

457
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Speaker 3: support it. I stand by what I said. If anything,

458
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Speaker 3: if they're going to expand it. I would hope that

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Speaker 3: they put provisions in that make it a little bit

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Speaker 3: more inclusive to the non Power five whatever it is now,

461
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Speaker 3: the non power conferences. Get more of those teams in there.

462
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Speaker 3: If we're all playing under the same banner of FBS,

463
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Speaker 3: more teams should be part of that playoff, even if

464
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Speaker 3: it means that the first round matchups aren't as good.

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Speaker 3: I don't care. What's fair is fair. I think we

466
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Speaker 3: have a natural disagreement on that point. I've always argued

467
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Speaker 3: for expansion. You've always argued, in a sense, for just

468
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Speaker 3: going back to the bulls. What I did not mention though,

469
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Speaker 3: in my touching, gripping once in a Generation speech on

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Speaker 3: the House floor, is the most recent conversations about going

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Speaker 3: to fourteen teams.

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Speaker 1: That scares me. Mm hmm. That scares me.

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Speaker 3: Some of the early talk about that scares me because

474
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Speaker 3: the conversation has not centered, at least over the last week,

475
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Speaker 3: around are who are we putting in this? How are

476
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Speaker 3: they qualifying for this playoff? It has instead centered around

477
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Speaker 3: while the Big ten and the SEC won more money,

478
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Speaker 3: unequal revenue.

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Speaker 1: Sharing, more automatic teams, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: More automatic teams. And as we start going down that

481
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Speaker 3: path where it is truly, and even to a greater

482
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Speaker 3: degree than we have seen in the history of college football,

483
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Speaker 3: a situation of haves versus have nots. When that gets

484
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Speaker 3: even more amplified than it had been previously, that scares

485
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Speaker 3: the crap out of me, because that is one genie

486
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Speaker 3: you cannot put back in the bottle. If we start

487
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Speaker 3: giving more money to those two conferences. And I get that,

488
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Speaker 3: people make the argument all the time, well, those are

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Speaker 3: the conferences that are winning the nasal championship. Okay, but

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Speaker 3: I feel like it won't be long before we spiral

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Speaker 3: into a super league breakoff type situation where the Big

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Speaker 3: ten and the SEC say, screw it, our conferences are

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Speaker 3: the best. We're going to play each other for the

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Speaker 3: national championship. We're going to have our own championship. Everybody

495
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Speaker 3: else can do their own thing. Weirdly, before you know what,

496
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Speaker 3: we kind of arrive back at a bowl setup where

497
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Speaker 3: different conferences play different conferences. But by and large that

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Speaker 3: setup to be is what I'm afraid of. I did

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Speaker 3: not mention it in my speech. I don't know where

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Speaker 3: that's going to go. I've heard a lot out there.

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Speaker 3: It seems like they're inching closer to coming up with

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Speaker 3: some sort of arrangement for twenty twenty six and beyond.

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Speaker 3: I'm okay with what they've got now twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 3: twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, and beyond an expanded playoff,

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Speaker 3: different revenue sharing, that type of thing. I think that

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Speaker 3: gets us into Murkey territory. I'm not excited about that.

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Speaker 3: The other thing that I would add on top of

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Speaker 3: this all, and maybe it is the singular defining point

509
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Speaker 3: with where things stand in college football right now, players

510
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Speaker 3: becoming employees of universities sharing in that revenue. What that

511
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Speaker 3: does to college football is entirely unpredictable, much the way

512
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Speaker 3: NIL and the Portal were sort of great disruptors and

513
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Speaker 3: sort of this thing we saw coming but didn't fully

514
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Speaker 3: know what the result of it was going to be.

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Speaker 3: I have absolutely no clue what revenue sharing is going

516
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Speaker 3: to do to this thing. It could totally nuke it

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Speaker 3: and start the whole thing anew. I truly don't know

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Speaker 3: what that's going to do. And so while I believe

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Speaker 3: with all the money that is changing hands, it's important

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Speaker 3: that the players get a slice of that pie, I'm

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Speaker 3: also a little bit fearful of not knowing what the

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Speaker 3: hell happens next, because it seems to me like, amid

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Speaker 3: all this chaos and uncertainty and disorganization around the sport

524
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Speaker 3: for any number of reasons, adding this on top of it,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm a little worried about that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's the old Ben Thompson adage. I

527
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Speaker 1: think it's Ben Thompson, right. Everything bundles and then unbundles,

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Speaker 1: and it's just a complete cycle. So if right now

529
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Speaker 1: we're bundling up a playoff, right now, we're bundling up conferences. Eventually,

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Speaker 1: what's happening right now right ESPN, Fox and like Warner

531
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Speaker 1: Discovery or whatever are launching their own sports streaming service,

532
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Speaker 1: So they, Peacock and Paramount Plus are going to come together.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna merge, right everything, everybody does their own thing,

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Speaker 1: and then they realize it's better to bundle up, and

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Speaker 1: then everybody thinks it's better to do their own thing.

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Speaker 1: So maybe we're bundling up, you know, we'll have Weirdly,

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Speaker 1: I think it's maybe a zag of mine that it

538
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Speaker 1: would be incredible if the SEC and Big Ten broke off,

539
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Speaker 1: because it would sort of reignite the nonsense factor. It

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Speaker 1: would separate college football from the NFL once again. Right,

541
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Speaker 1: So you like randomly have two conferences who find a

542
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Speaker 1: serious champion, and then the rest of the conferences come

543
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Speaker 1: together and they find a fun champion, and you can

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Speaker 1: decide if you're like a fun guy or gal or

545
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Speaker 1: a serious guy or gal. Right, And that doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 1: It's weird that they can't all figure out how to

547
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Speaker 1: find somebody to be their champion. But that would be fun.

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Speaker 1: It would be like a weird like, Yeah, I guess

549
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Speaker 1: on this side of things, it's gonna be Ohio State, LSU,

550
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Speaker 1: and on this side of things it's gonna be Clemson

551
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Speaker 1: and Utah. It's like old.

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Speaker 3: School WWFWCW Right. But we also what do we get again, right?

553
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Speaker 3: We get dueling national champions we get multiple you know,

554
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: claims to a national championship. That's sort of vintage in

555
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Speaker 3: its own way.

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Speaker 1: And so that's my zag that that would be weirdly

557
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Speaker 1: fun where you get G five's acc Big twelve. Notre

558
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Speaker 1: Dame would have to choose like the son of a

559
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Speaker 1: divorce couple, like when it gets custody, but in a

560
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Speaker 1: weird way that actually sounds demented and fun. So I

561
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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I think we're going to get

562
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Speaker 1: to a point where everything's gonna be blown up, and

563
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Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how that process shakes out.

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Speaker 1: But for the time being, it feels like a twelve

565
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Speaker 1: team playoff to me, Like at the bottom of the

566
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Speaker 1: twelve team playoff, there's like a kind of a participation

567
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Speaker 1: trophy element, like, I know you're sad you lost your

568
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: rivalry game. It seems like losing a third game is

569
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Speaker 1: going to tank your postseason chances. But ah, for old

570
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: time sake, you can go over to Madison and play

571
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: an opening round game, sure, Alabama. So that's that's what

572
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Speaker 1: the feel is. And you get into double digits where

573
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Speaker 1: you're like, you're not playing for a national championship anymore.

574
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: You're playing for a TV show you're paying for, like

575
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Speaker 1: a mini series. And then you're also like asking a

576
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Speaker 1: team to potentially play what four games in a playoff

577
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Speaker 1: if they play in that opening round. So in the

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Speaker 1: current system, you're asking a player to go from playing twelve, thirteen,

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Speaker 1: fourteen to potentially seventeen games. That definitely has the feel

580
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Speaker 1: of like yesterday's price is not today's price, and something

581
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Speaker 1: at that will need to be broached if you're asking

582
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Speaker 1: players to play that many more games. And so there's

583
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Speaker 1: a lot of consequences to where this sport is going,

584
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Speaker 1: and it just doesn't feel like anybody's fully thought it through.

585
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Speaker 1: And again, you're at the top of the system, giving

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Speaker 1: the state of the union, and so the buck stops

587
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Speaker 1: with you while you're getting fat and pa forgetting about

588
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Speaker 1: Jack Lambert eating your amage chicken on the stile.

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Speaker 3: Of course, of course, all right, well, look, this was

590
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 3: a goofy concept for a show, but one that was needed,

591
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,320
Speaker 3: a conversation that must have been had, if it wasn't

592
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Speaker 3: already had by the masses out there in the forballer

593
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 3: hood right in soliverbo at Gmail dot cou Let us

594
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 3: know your thoughts. You can also hit us up across

595
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 3: all of our social media channels. Let me know what

596
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: we got right, what we got wrong. Did you like

597
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 3: the speeches? I don't know. Did you like the rebuttal?

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Speaker 1: We can be clear. I think I only meant about

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Speaker 1: seventy three percent of what I said in the rebuttal.

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Speaker 3: Seventy three percent still a lot.

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Speaker 1: Man, I think that's significant. I think I'm totally like,

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Speaker 1: I fully stand by almost everything. I didn't mean to

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Speaker 1: slander chiropractice. I'm sure there are a number of very

604
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Speaker 1: very good out there. Yeah, I could certainly probably use

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Speaker 1: some some lower back adjustment on carrying this episode of

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 3: I've been sitting in this chair for so long editing. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that part in the beginning to make it sound like

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Speaker 3: I'm on the house house floor, my back, My back

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Speaker 3: is roaring.

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Speaker 1: Master work. Thank yours. From a production element, I felt

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Speaker 1: like I was in the chamber, and I felt like

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Speaker 1: almost a fraud that I didn't deserve to be in

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Speaker 1: such a hallowed place. So you did a great job.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. It did sound like it. We did make

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Speaker 3: it sound like that.

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Speaker 1: And I even saw you as you were playing that

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Speaker 1: that you were like hitting the mark button on your keyboard,

619
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Speaker 1: like and I gotta tweak that.

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Speaker 3: There's work to do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I took about ten notes as we went through the

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Speaker 3: dryer round. The people who hear this won't hear any

624
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Speaker 3: of those things that I picked up.

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Speaker 1: I stand by the fact that if you are going

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Speaker 1: to get your back adjusted or realigned, to not do

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Speaker 1: it outside of a lady foot locker. I do stand

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Speaker 1: by that. I'm trying to look at what other notes

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Speaker 1: I wrote down during during your speech. Yes, on video

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Speaker 1: game old rivalries, I wrote down Jack Lambert, ron Komer?

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Speaker 1: Are you a ron Komer guy? Apologies to Ron Komer,

632
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Speaker 1: who I think is like is or was one of

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Speaker 1: the voices of like the Cubs on the radio. Here,

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Speaker 1: I was trying to find likeesoteric Yankee names to just

635
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Speaker 1: throw you off a little bit, and I was gonna

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Speaker 1: say Chilli Davis. But I felt like he made like

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Speaker 1: enough of a contribution to the Yankees. I was like, no,

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Speaker 1: he's a pretty like legit Yankee. He did only play

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Speaker 1: for the Yankees. Was he an Oakland A? I think

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Speaker 1: he played for the Royals. I think, yeah, he was around,

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Speaker 1: but I think he made decent contributions to the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: So I think he's a real Yankee as far as

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Speaker 1: I can tell. I did look up the best Mac

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Speaker 1: players of all time, and I think I nailed a

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Speaker 3: It was fun. Yeah. Well, we'll eagerly await the feedback

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Speaker 3: that comes in from the community after this one. A

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Speaker 3: little bit of a different show, but hey, it's the

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Speaker 3: March when your roll episodes like this out. So appreciate

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Speaker 3: your feedback. Let us know your thoughts going out too,

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Speaker 3: overballers dot com. That of course is our Patreon early

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Speaker 1: Dam Yeah, I tried to break you with the minukey

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Speaker 1: car care stuff that killed me and I did, but

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Speaker 1: you muted yourself. I did mute, so it was not

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Speaker 1: people couldn't hear that. I kind of I kind of

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Speaker 1: took the piss out of the seriousness I was to

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Speaker 1: your speech.

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Speaker 3: That was beautiful. You did a good job providing comedic relief.

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Speaker 3: That was perfect.

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Speaker 1: Dan, Thank you.

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Speaker 3: All right, good episode. Thank you one and all for

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Speaker 3: bearing with us here. Concept episode. We'll get back at

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Speaker 3: it next week in the meantime. For that fine gentleman

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Speaker 3: over there as always my good friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself,

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Speaker 3: Tie Hill in the brandt you know the drill, stay sobbing, Peace,