1 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:13,840 Speaker 1: Welcome in. Lake Kick is Live Yes Thursday, June thirtieth 2 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord, twenty twenty two. We are not 3 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: high top downtown Nashville, Tennessee. We're in sunny southern California. 4 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: As it turns out, Los Angeles the place to be. 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the Big ten, bombshell USC UCLA, 6 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: maybe more in the future. Who in the world knows anymore? 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Headed to the Big ten. You know how rare it 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: is to have guests on the show. We would not 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: roll out the red carpet for just anyone. But momentarily 10 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn will join us because quite frankly, we have 11 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: a lot to break down and I don't even know 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: if I have enough to say on this. We're also 13 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 1: going to dive into the late Kick inbox. We saw 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,279 Speaker 1: Lee eleven today. It was going to talk a lot 15 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: about that, but plans changed. Obviously, happy to have you 16 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: with us. We are on the prespice of one hundred 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 1: thousand subs on the YouTube channel. As you know, we 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: have a promise from management and they're standing all around 19 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: us right now. As it turns out, then when we 20 00:00:57,560 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: hit one hundred k, big things and big news on 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: the way, So thank you so much for being tuned in. 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: I want to dive right into the show breaking news 23 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: this morning. We're walking out of the hotel. We're headed 24 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: over here to Redondo Hire for the Elite eleven finals, 25 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: and there it is. First you hear whispers, then you 26 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: get text from a buddy or two. Then you see 27 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: a cryptic tweet from folks like Brady Quinn, and there's 28 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 1: the news usc UCLA headed to the Big ten. So 29 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: I want to bring Brady Quinn in right now, his 30 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: debut on Lake Kick. It's not a guest driven show, 31 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: but I think today we can make an exception. So Brady, 32 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: first off, welcome in. Secondly, how did this news greet 33 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: you this morning? 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: First Off, thank you for having me. I've been waiting 35 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: for a long time for this opportunity. Josh, obviously watch 36 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: your show. 37 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 3: A big fan. As far as the news today, it 38 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: surprised me. 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: It didn't shock me, and I think in part because 40 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 2: of how we got here right and really, to me, 41 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: this goes before Texas and Oklahoma decided to make the 42 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 2: move to the SEC, which looks to be in twenty 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: twenty five. 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 3: To me, this honestly started around COVID, and I think 45 00:01:59,080 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 3: what we. 46 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: Saw not just from school to school, as many schools 47 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: are running in a deficit, and they started to look 48 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: at their their accounting, their inventory and going, you know, 49 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: we need those students back, you know, where everyone's. 50 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: Kind of being hit hard right now. 51 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 2: I think we all did that individually, where as families 52 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 2: and a lot of people started to kind of look 53 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 2: out for themselves first before they looked out for other 54 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 2: people first. And I think you're starting to see that 55 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 2: now finally with what Texas and Oklahoma did, but now 56 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: with what USC and UCLA have done in regards of saying, 57 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: I don't care about my conference affiliation. I need to 58 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: make sure that I'm gonna be taken care of. I'm 59 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: gonna be good for the for the foreseeable future. And 60 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 2: I think that's what's led us to this point right now. 61 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 2: Are you're starting to see bigger brands, bigger schools that 62 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 2: are important to those respective conferences. Look for a safe place, 63 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: safe haven, And that's the big ten right now. 64 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 3: In the sec. 65 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: You you said a mouthful there, and I want to 66 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: go back because I don't want to just gloss this over, 67 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: you know as well as I do and you guys 68 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: travel the country and you're working with Fox on Saturdays, 69 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: so you're in the Pac twevel, you're in the big 70 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: ten a lot. When that went down, When COVID went 71 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 1: down the way it did, I'm not talking about the 72 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: way it was handled politically, but the way it was 73 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: handled inside college athletics, there was this reverberation and there 74 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: was this kind of writing down on a piece of 75 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 1: paper and putting in a pocket. How we got handled, 76 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: how we got treated conference to conference, team to team, 77 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you heard the same thing I did, 78 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: and that was this may look like it's over right now, 79 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: but the wheels don't turn overnight in the sport. There 80 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: will be consequences to pay down the road. I heard 81 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 1: it even in the SEC, and the SEC was viewed 82 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: as one of the more wide open leagues during that 83 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: whole thing. They were adamant we're going to play and 84 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't like that across the country. But so now 85 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: we fast forward and it's twenty twenty two. No one's 86 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: talking about COVID with college football anymore. But yet you 87 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: and I were talking earlier today, and I want to 88 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: kind of dive into that again. This thing did not 89 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: happen overnight. These moves of this size don't happen overnight, 90 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: and maybe it's never one specific thing that leads to it, 91 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: but that is part of the layer to this snowball, 92 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: and it's also tied into, quite frankly, leadership. I mean, 93 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: I don't know whether we want to name names or not, 94 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: but people on the West Coast I'm in LA right now, 95 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: they would be very upfront with you if this mic 96 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: was off and that camera was off, and they would say, 97 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: this guy, this guy, this guy. Maybe it's at the 98 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: conference level or program level. They put us in a 99 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: position to where our hand was forced and we had 100 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: to make the move. It's so crazy, though, is it 101 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: not to see this stuff lining up, and then when 102 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: it happens on a day like today, you start going 103 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: in reverse. Twelve months, eighteen months, twenty four months. It's 104 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: like a movie plot. At the end of the movie, 105 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: you can kind of see it all play out and 106 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: you go, Okay, this kind of makes sense now. 107 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 2: I think if you're just talking about the PAC twelve 108 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 2: from the conference standpoint, it obviously points back to Larry Scott. 109 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 2: I don't know that he ever put any of the 110 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: PAC twelve institutions in a good spot for as far 111 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 2: as their their TV distribution standpoint, and you can make 112 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: the case he inherited a tough situation, but to not 113 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: be able to really take advantage of the entire West 114 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 2: coast you're talking about some big time media markets, it hurt. 115 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 2: It hurt the ability and really capped I think, you 116 00:04:58,680 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 2: know what the pack twell. 117 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 3: Was able to generate from their TV revenue. 118 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: And then on top of that, obviously the PAC twelve 119 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 2: network that you can not really describe whether than being 120 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: a big time failure, and that obviously points directly to 121 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: Larry Scott. But you can't let Southern cal off the 122 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: hook either. The bottom line is it comes from the top. 123 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: They're athletic directors, whether it was Pat Hayden, lind Swan, 124 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 2: you could even talk about just the direction of the school, 125 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 2: you know, coming off of the Pete Carroll you know, 126 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: final years where obviously he had as good of a 127 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 2: run of success as any college football coach in college 128 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 2: football history. The reality is those they got caught for 129 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 2: some of the things they were doing that you know, 130 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 2: were illegal, and they got pop for it, and they 131 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 2: had to kind of serve their time, but they never were. 132 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: Able, ever able to build it back up. 133 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: And whether you want to point out the athletic directors, are 134 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 2: the president not making that as big of an issue 135 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: or really make it as important as it needed to be, 136 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 2: not just for Southern cal but I think for the 137 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 2: entire West coast in the Pac twelve. 138 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 3: And if you really think. 139 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 2: About it, no one's looked at the Pack twelve and 140 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: football on the West Coast the same probably since USC 141 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,679 Speaker 2: in that run where they were dominant with Matt Lioner 142 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: and Reggie Bush, two guys I work with, I have 143 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: a good relationship with. I don't think we've quite looked 144 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 2: at them the same. Now, Oregon kind of had their 145 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: period of time that run. 146 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 3: But even then, you know. 147 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: The first college football Playoff they get, you know, physically 148 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 2: beat up versus Ohio State and that was pretty much 149 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: it with that, with the exception of the opening drive 150 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: of Washington, you know, taking on Alabama in a semi 151 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: final game, and the rest is history. 152 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 3: So that's been the tough part. 153 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: I think is this has been building up for quite 154 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 2: some time, and I think USC, with all the moves 155 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: they've made this offseason, you know, bringing in Lincoln Riley, 156 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: you know, getting players in the transfer portal to come 157 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: to USC. I think they realized even that wouldn't be enough, 158 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: Like even as good of a season as they could 159 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 2: have in the Pac twelve, it still won't be enough 160 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: to change the perception of USC and the Pac twelve 161 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 2: and the national landscape of college football. And I think 162 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: that has a lot to do with this particular move 163 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: and how we got here. 164 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what's crazy is like, you played at 165 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: Notre Dame. That's not a long time ago. And I 166 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: grew up and that's not all that long ago. And 167 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: even as recently as my adolescence, people refer to Midwestern football, 168 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: people refer to West Coast football, and like today, it's 169 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: someone just pressed a button and all of a sudden, 170 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: UCLA is going to play a conference game in East Lansing, Michigan. 171 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: Penn State is going to play a conference game in 172 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: the coliseum in LA And that's not even to speak of, obviously, 173 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the moves that have been made in the SEC the 174 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: moves that could still be made. I mean, we have 175 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: no clue what's about to happen with Oregon. I'm gonna 176 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: ask you about Notre Dame in a second, But I 177 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: want to stick on this first. For a long time, 178 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: you and I grew up, you played the game at 179 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: a high level. We knew college football to be kind 180 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: of territorial and it was kind of geographic in nature. 181 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: All that's out the window now. Man. It's it's kind 182 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: of in this sense, no different than the pro game. 183 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: If you're in if you're a Charger, you could be 184 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: playing in New York this week. You could be playing 185 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: in Seattle the next week. I don't know what that does, 186 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: but I'll ask you, because you played the highest profile 187 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: position in the sport, how does that change the way 188 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: you look at your game and modeling your game and 189 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: if you're an offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator, how you 190 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 1: go about tactically preparing for a game. Yeah. 191 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: I think when you look at the contrast of style 192 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: of football, and maybe with the exception of Ohio State 193 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 2: because they've had one of the more prolific passing attacks, 194 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's been the mo of USC. I mean, 195 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: we could talk about the law that they've had as 196 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: far as success, but it's not like they haven't had 197 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: a recent first round drafted quarterback or or first round 198 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 2: drafted wide receiver. 199 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 3: You don't have to look far. 200 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: I mean, every single year USC is pumping out skill 201 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 2: players and quarterbacks, regardless of their team success. You still 202 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: know that that's not a poor spot or a weak 203 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 2: spot for that team. 204 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 3: You look across the Big Ten different story. You know, 205 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: they're great up front. 206 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: You're talking about big men offensive linemen at Wisconsin and 207 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 2: Iowa and Ohio State and Penn State and Michigan State 208 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: teams that are pumping them out year not quite. 209 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 3: The same as what you're seeing at Southern cal So. 210 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: I just think that contrast to match up what you're recruiting, 211 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: the style of play you're playing to drastically changes for USC, 212 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 2: and really for you know, I think most of the 213 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: Big Ten, you know, they kind of look they're probably 214 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: gonna look at USC similar to Ohio State. I just 215 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: think without the horses up front. So there's no doubt 216 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: that plays into especially at a pro level, how you're 217 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: gonna play against your divisional opponents, your rivals, if you will, 218 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: how you match up. You gotta win your division in 219 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:30,959 Speaker 2: order to be successful, well, if you want to win 220 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 2: your conference, especially in this future Big Ten conference we're 221 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: talking about If USC wants to be a piece of it, 222 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: you gotta knock out of Ohio State. 223 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 3: I know Michigan won it last year. We'll see what 224 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: they come back with this year. 225 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 2: But even then, look at how Michigan did it running 226 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 2: game and dominant defense. 227 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: That you look at Ohio State, They're always gonna have 228 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 3: a running game. And maybe last year was part of 229 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 3: the reason. 230 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: Why they didn't have as much success versus Michigan or 231 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 2: in the Big Ten because they didn't have that dominant defense. 232 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: But that's really what they've hung their hat on, along 233 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: with the passing attack and wide receivers and all of that. 234 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 2: So I do think that's an interest twist as far 235 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 2: as you know, building your roster, what you're going to 236 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: recruit in order to have success and have a shot. 237 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 2: But I think what you talked about is, you know, 238 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: really the powers that be are looking at this more 239 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: as a pro model, and I think they're looking at 240 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 2: the landscape of saying, we have the Big Ten now 241 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 2: that we play you know, games from the DC area 242 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: or the Jersey Shore all the way to the West coast, 243 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: and that is big time for TV ratings, viewership, generating 244 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 2: more revenue from from those aspects of it, I think 245 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 2: from alumni contributions. 246 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 3: When you think about the fact that there's. 247 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: A lot of Big Ten alumni around on the West 248 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: Coast and they're probably not waking up early to watch 249 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 2: some of those early games. Maybe they are, but now 250 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: they've got a reason to because they got rivals sitting 251 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: there in LA with the USC and UCLA and vice versa. 252 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 3: You know that those West Coast folks. 253 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 2: Might have said, I don't need to watch the Big 254 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: Ten at noon, right, it's not ampy too early for me. 255 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 3: I don't need to watch this kickoff. Now they do, 256 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: you know? Now they do? 257 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 2: If they don't, they want to watch their competition. They 258 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 2: want to watch their team. But I think that's the 259 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 2: biggest part question too, is how how do the teams 260 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: adapt to the time zone change, the travel. 261 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 3: That's one of my biggest questions is having to play. 262 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 2: A noon game when you're a West Coast team, that's 263 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: nine am local time for you. That's changing your internal clock, 264 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: that body plot, and then vice versa. You might have 265 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 2: some really really late games right that these Big Ten 266 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: schools that are on East Coast time, coming all the 267 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: way across the country got to play at. 268 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 3: Ten pm local or whatever the case may be. 269 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 2: So that adjustment, I think for players, along with some 270 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: of the roster building and the matchups we're talking about, 271 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 2: that's a huge piece I think moving forward as far 272 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 2: as the success for any of these institutions we're mentioning. 273 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: All Right, dude, I know you've done a whole lot 274 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: of hits today TV radio. I can't even imagine how 275 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: stretched in you've been. But here's what I want you 276 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: to do. I want you to take that I Brady, 277 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: and I want you to take us inside those super 278 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: exclusive Notre Dame group texts when this stuff broke this 279 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: morning and everybody from coast to coast said, oh, this 280 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: is going to force Notre Dame's hand. How did you guys, 281 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 1: How did Irish nation react? 282 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: It's funny you get both sides of it, and I 283 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 2: see both sides of it. There are some people who said, man, 284 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 2: this puts us in a great position. Who's a more 285 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: valued desired brand in school right now than Notre Dame. 286 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: And that's not just you know, for the acc which 287 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: everyone seems to think that that's like a natural fit 288 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: because of their soft affiliation and the other sports outside 289 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 2: of football, that are a. 290 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: Part of the ACC. 291 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: But no one seems to look at the Big Ten 292 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 2: and go, well, wait, wait a second, doesn't this make 293 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: the most sense. I mean, that's the conference that's going 294 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 2: to be able to pay you the most with the 295 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: new TV rights deal coming up, That's the conference that 296 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 2: most represents probably what you'd like to do from a 297 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 2: scheduling standpoint. 298 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: I mean, you're independent, and there's been. 299 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 2: Years where they've literally played games in New York's you know, 300 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,479 Speaker 2: Yankee Stadium on the East Coast, you know, in Chicago, 301 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 2: then in LA or playing up versus Stanford up in 302 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 2: northern California. You've hit all, you know, all three spots 303 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 2: along the way. Only the Big Ten's going to offer 304 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 2: you that as a conference. So I actually think as 305 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: you look down the road as far as where Notre 306 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: Dame would potentially join if they felt the need to, 307 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 2: and I think, and honestly, it has to it has 308 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 2: to come down to two powers, you know, superpower conferences 309 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 2: or power conferences, however you want to describe it. I 310 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 2: think it has to come down to that, and really 311 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 2: where it doesn't leave them an opportunity to make it 312 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: to the College Football Playoff or to be able to 313 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: have the sort of revenant that looking to generate on 314 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: their own as an independent if that comes to fruition, 315 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 2: I think the Big ten makes the most sense for 316 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: a fit. But again there's still, you know, the soft 317 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: agreement with the ACC right now, and the NBC Sports 318 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: still has their rights and so those things have to 319 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 2: be sorted out over the next few years. But to 320 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 2: be honest with you, Josh, I really see both sides 321 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 2: of it. I can see it where we can be 322 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 2: a very desired valued commodity, But I can also see 323 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: where there could be a land shape that all of 324 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: a sudden's changing all around you, and they're forced into 325 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 2: a situation and maybe they're not maybe they're not necessarily 326 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: ready to make that decision to join a conference. 327 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: Let me get you out of here on this. I 328 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: look at where we are now, and I look at 329 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: where the sport. I don't know where it's going to 330 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 1: be in five years. I don't I didn't know where 331 00:13:58,320 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: it was going to be this time yesterday, as it 332 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: turns out out. So I mean, you cover this thing now, 333 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: but you played it, but you grew up and you 334 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: eat and sleep and breathe. It kind of like I do, 335 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: and so you love it and you look at it 336 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: and what it's becoming, and it's kind of unpredictable in 337 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: the future. I mean, when I was growing up down 338 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 1: in Georgia, I came to love the tradition risch aspect 339 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: of college football. Like I loved that there was a 340 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: difference between what I saw on Sunday and what I 341 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: saw on Saturday. And then some small changes started to happen, 342 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: and I was able to stomach it because I understand 343 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: for the greater good of the sport, you know, you 344 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: want to grow it, et cetera, et cetera. Okay, I'll 345 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: check that box. But I mean, the term slippery slope 346 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: comes to mind so quickly. And there's some people who 347 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: love where we're headed. And I'm not hey, I'm not 348 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: here to tell you you're wrong orhy'me right. It's just 349 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: a difference of opinion. But I kind of want to 350 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: get where your head's at on this. Like when you 351 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: look at where we were fifteen years ago, ten years ago, 352 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: five years ago now, and then you look ahead five, ten, fifteen, 353 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: do you like where we are and where we're headed, 354 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: and where do you think we're headed? 355 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: Well, I think we're headed to really a pro model. 356 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: That's what it looks like, and that's what it feels 357 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 2: like right now. It's just we don't want to call 358 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: it that, right I mean, we're looking at the transfer 359 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: portal and we're calling a transfer portal. Look the realitience. 360 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: It's free agency, folks, That's what it is. The transfer 361 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 2: portal is free agency. And then when you combine it 362 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 2: with nil, which is hilarious to me, like we make 363 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 2: up this new term name, image and likeness. 364 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 3: You know, where that always existed. 365 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: At the professional level where you were doing marketing deals 366 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: and everyone was right into a contract, but no one 367 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 2: needed to call it or identify it as nil. But 368 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 2: it's like, that's how we have to identify it for 369 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: the college football the you know, the amateur student athletes 370 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: so they can earn compensation for it. It's a pro model. 371 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 2: That's where we're headed. That's where we're going. You know, 372 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: it's it's gonna feel clunky, it's not going to feel 373 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 2: great on the way there. I think for a lot 374 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: of us who are traditionalists, those who valued the education 375 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 2: that was enough. I came back to finish my college 376 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 2: education because I wanted to you know, I wanted to 377 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 2: earn that degree. I didn't want to have to worry 378 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: about going playing and coming back. All those things were enough, 379 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: the rivalries, the tradition behind it. 380 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 3: Games. 381 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 2: I mean, we played and play a national championship, we 382 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: played in BCS games, and that sure as heck was 383 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 2: enough for me. 384 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: So all of that, I think it doesn't sit well. 385 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: But the truth of the matter is the money has 386 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: gotten so ridiculously out of hand, between the TV revenue 387 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: thats generated, the stadium's just seeing built out around you, 388 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: coaches now making ten million dollars a year, and the 389 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 2: players are the ones who you know, just recently in 390 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: the past few years, got unlimited meals right and don't 391 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: have to jump through some of these hoops that I 392 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: think a lot of student athletes have to jump through. 393 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 3: Uh, And so I think it's only right we get there. 394 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 2: It just might take a little while and it might 395 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 2: feel a little clunky and uncomfortable until we get there. 396 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 3: But that's where we're headed. 397 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: That's one of the reasons why I feel like, and 398 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: I mentioned earlier, you know, two power conferences, because if 399 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: you look at every professional sports like that's what we have. 400 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: We don't have another professional sports that we've got all 401 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 2: these other Power five conferences or Power four, Power three, 402 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: we have two. 403 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 3: And I think it's going in that direction. 404 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: It's just a matter of time until we get there 405 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: and then and then who oversees it right? Who's going 406 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 2: to provide the governance? Are these you know student now, 407 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 2: I think it's going to be able unionize like you 408 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: see at the NFL level or in other pro sports. 409 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: There's still all those questions ahead. I just I hope 410 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 2: we don't lose sight of college football and how we 411 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,159 Speaker 2: got to that point, and we still keep some of 412 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: the things that make it special and make it what 413 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: it is. 414 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: I think for you and I and all the other people. 415 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: Who have come to enjoy college football for what it 416 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 2: is and the nutritions that go along with it. 417 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: Brady Quinn one of us. That's why we've brought you 418 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: on brother gentlemen and a scholar. As always, I appreciate 419 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: you taking some time. We will see you very soon. 420 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: Actually we're a couple of months away, man, so we'll 421 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: see you on the sideline this fall. 422 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: Looking forward to it. Thanks for having me, Josh. 423 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 1: We got a couple of Q and a's that I 424 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 1: want to do and then we're going to get out 425 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: of here. But I could not have made this trip 426 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: without Academy Sports and Outdoors. I just got to be 427 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: real with you. There is a lot of there's a 428 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: lot of equipment all around us right now, but there's 429 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: a lot in my bag that got stocked up on 430 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: last minute from Academy Sports and Outdoors. You know they 431 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,399 Speaker 1: are your outdoor sporting good supplier. You know that you 432 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:57,960 Speaker 1: can go there for all the sporting goods and needs. 433 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 1: But did you know you can go there for like 434 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: a travel Did you know you can get a cooler there? 435 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: Did you know you can get a grill there? Well, 436 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: yeah you can. You can get it all. Fishing trip 437 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: this weekend. Go there, can't pig trip this weekend? 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All right, let's 447 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: dive into the mailbag right quick, and then we've got 448 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: a flight to catch, although I'm told it's delayed just 449 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: a little bit, but we got a fly to catch us. 450 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: So let's dive in right now. And I want to 451 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of have some West Coast flavor here since we are, 452 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: after all, in LA. We had a question from one 453 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: of you, and that was to people in Los Angeles 454 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: want USC back. We've been out here this week, what's 455 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: been the vibe? And the answer is a definitive yes. Now, 456 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: this is not a small southern town. This is not Columbia, 457 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: South Carolina. It's not Tuscaloosis. So when you're here, no, 458 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: you could walk several city blocks and not run into 459 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: USC fan decked out head to toe. But man, it's 460 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: a massive brand here, and it's a massive brand within 461 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: college football. I think that we had Ryan Abraham, for example, 462 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: one of the guys from USC football dot Com, which 463 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: is our USC team site, and he was talking about 464 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: what kind of bombshell this was today for USC and 465 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: what they've needed for so long. The fan base has 466 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: been hungry. But in a big city like this, you 467 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: can kind of get apathetic. You hear people say it 468 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: all the time, but they say it because it's true. 469 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,719 Speaker 1: There is so much to do here. And so if 470 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: you see if us he's not delivering for you, you know, 471 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: I'll come back when they're good. Yeah, they desperately want 472 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: to be good. It's not fiction. When you watch that 473 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: footage from the early two thousands when Pete Carroll was 474 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: doing he was doing here, it's not fiction. It's real life. 475 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: And it's not that the blueprint doesn't exist anymore. We 476 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: saw a lot of southern California kids at a at 477 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: a eleven this week. Keep them home and win with them. 478 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,959 Speaker 1: It's pretty straightforward. It's a lot easier said than done. 479 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, they wanted to happen. And then also when 480 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: you have a move like this which we're talking about 481 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: today with US and UCLA going to the big ten, man, 482 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: if you don't have your hand forced at that point 483 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: and you don't get your ducks in a row, then 484 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: you'll get left behind. I can assure you that Ohio 485 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,640 Speaker 1: State's not gonna lose any sleep if USC doesn't hold 486 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: up their end of the bargain. The checks are cash 487 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: in one way or the other. They're getting a high 488 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,360 Speaker 1: profile game and a win on their resume one way 489 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 1: or the other. My sneaking suspicion is that Lincoln Riley's 490 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: household was one of the happiest in the entire Southern 491 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: California area today. It's not that Oklahoma won't be a 492 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: high profile program in the SEC, but how could this 493 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 1: have worked out any better for him? You come here, 494 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: you've got talent already ready to come in. You leverage 495 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: the transfer portal. Those two mechanisms will always work to 496 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: your advantage because you are USC and you are uniquely 497 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 1: capable of taking advantage of that. But now you no 498 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: longer have to wake up every morning with the lingering 499 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: question that's outside of your control of what is the 500 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: future of our conference? And it's been the talk for 501 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,479 Speaker 1: a while that there were a few programs out there 502 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: behind the scene, means that we're trying to make moves. 503 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: And everyone always thought, oh, they must be talking about 504 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: Clemson or Florida State, and they may very well be, 505 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: but they were always talking about this one. They were 506 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: always talking about the University of Southern California. So yes, 507 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: they want it. Just because you don't hear it every day, 508 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: and just because it's not continuously trending on Twitter doesn't 509 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: mean they don't want it. So yes, absolutely that's the case. 510 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: I'll let's dive in here for one more. This is 511 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: really funny because there's always this question of whether someone's 512 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: arrived or not. So I got the question Georgia just 513 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: won the title, but have they really arrived? And I 514 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: guess the context was when we talk about Bama, they've 515 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: won multiples. When we talk about Clemson and they've won multiples. 516 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: So Georgia just won one. They don't have multiples. Who's 517 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: to say they're not a flash in the pan. Well, 518 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: I am one person to say that I've been wrong before. 519 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: It may very well happen again, but I'm not wrong 520 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: about this. Say, yeah, Georgia's arrived, and Georgia was there before. 521 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: They just won the title, which kind of sounds counterintuitive 522 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: if you find arriving as winning a title or winning 523 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: multiple titles. But guys, I don't need to take you 524 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: back that far. Now, if you're running a program at 525 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: a high level, what you're trying to do is get 526 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: yourself in position to compete for one every year. There's 527 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: a lot of luck and bounces of balls that have 528 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: to go your way. You want to be in a 529 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: position every year. Kirby's had his program in position since 530 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. They're in overtime of a national championship game. 531 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: I know you remember second twenty six. I know you 532 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 1: remember all that. The point is, like you change one 533 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: play here or there in overtime, it's a different outcome. 534 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: General rule of thumb, if you're good enough to get 535 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: to overtime of a national title game, your program's probably 536 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 1: operating at plenty of high enough level. But then for 537 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: some reason people saw that and still were unconvinced, and 538 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,680 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen happens. And the simple fact is, if Nick 539 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Saban and Alabama aren't in the way, Kirby's got one 540 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: or two titles already twenty nineteen. LSU's the Bus saw 541 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, Bama's The Bus Saw twenty twenty one. Georgia 542 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: never dipped off. It's not like Georgia went back to 543 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: seven wins seasons. They never were there to begin with. 544 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,719 Speaker 1: But how do you define arrival? Is it really as 545 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: simple as looking at a trophy case and how many 546 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: crystal balls or whatever that new trophy is they have? 547 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: How many of those do you have? And we'll just wait, 548 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,920 Speaker 1: Like I think it's a little more nuanced than that. 549 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: If that's the case, you know, Baylor will never arrive. 550 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: A program like Iowa State could never arrive. I would 551 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: define both of those programs as having arrived. But on 552 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 1: the grand scale, the tier one scale, absolutely George has arrived. 553 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: Do you invest at a maximum level? They do. Do 554 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: you recruit at the highest level possible? They do? Do 555 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: you invest at the highest level possible? They do. Do 556 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: you have high level facilities? They do, and they upgrade 557 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: them year over year. What does your roster look like? 558 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: Are you a desirable product? Are you an attractive program? 559 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: Where is your note like, where's your red ex as 560 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: opposed to the green check? So, yeah, George has absolutely arrived. 561 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: We arrived here three or four days ago. Now we 562 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: have to tear all this down and we have to 563 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 1: depart from here. But guys, I sincerely appreciate you making 564 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 1: this possible. You know, not long ago we were down 565 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: in Columbus, Georgia, and we didn't even know if the 566 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: lights were going to come on and now we can 567 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 1: take the show on the road whenever we want to. 568 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: So I actually just got told by a lovely voice 569 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: in my ear we have hit one hundred thousand subscribers. 570 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 1: So hey, management's clapping even as we speak. Now we'll 571 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: see what they have in store for us. So, guys, sincerely, now, 572 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: thank you for that. We didn't necessarily time it up 573 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: to where that would happen here, but it did. It's 574 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: really only scratching the surface of what we're capable of, 575 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: and there's a lot more to come. I will be 576 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 1: very excited, obviously to tell you about it in due 577 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: time when I can. But we have a lot of 578 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: big plans for the show. So if you've been here 579 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: from the beginning, thank you. If you're just tuning in now, 580 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: we think this is the one stop shot for all 581 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,199 Speaker 1: your college football needs. Thank you so much to our 582 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: entire crew here and you guys at home for making 583 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 1: this possible. I'm Josh Pate. Will be back live from 584 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 1: Nashville Sunday night. Until then, take care and God bless you.