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Speaker 1: it's a win in preseason game number two here tonight
Speaker 1: Achilette Stadium, Patriots twenty the Carolina Panthers ten. So who
Speaker 1: had the overrunder of the Patriots game being less than
Speaker 1: the overrunder of the Red Sox game anybody, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, for anybody who's complaining, I don't know none
Speaker 1: of us complaining about the length of game and the
Speaker 1: time it took to play. Are they in the seventh
Speaker 1: inning yet? In the seventh seventh inning now? And they
Speaker 1: started at the same time the Patriots did, and the
Speaker 1: Patriots game was kind of long tonight. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, that was that was something We're gonna
Speaker 1: get to all of it. Just opening thoughts, Mike, do
Speaker 1: so before we get to our good badly injured. I
Speaker 1: think it was more of the same way we've seen
Speaker 1: in this summer. The offense made a nice play and
Speaker 1: other but otherwise, I mean, I'm talking the first team
Speaker 1: offense of course, didn't really do much, couldn't really string
Speaker 1: anything together in the three drives that they were together.
Speaker 1: I thought the defense was similar, did the same thing
Speaker 1: they've been doing the summer. They were disruptive. If they
Speaker 1: were you know on PJ. Walker immediately they got their
Speaker 1: hands on a bunch of balls, they forced a fumble.
Speaker 1: So I like all that stuff from the defense thoughts.
Speaker 1: Some young guys stepped up, but you know, overall, I
Speaker 1: think you're not really I didn't really see much out
Speaker 1: of the offense tonight. I found that that the headline
Speaker 1: disappointing to three and outs to start the game was
Speaker 1: just y and I'm just gonna echo before we go
Speaker 1: to Paul, that's the same thing. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to see the Patriots come out offensively tonight and do
Speaker 1: something right away, and instead the three and outs to
Speaker 1: start the game. Then they doubled down on that, and
Speaker 1: you know what, whatever flow we were hoping for didn't
Speaker 1: really come in any And you know, in a game
Speaker 1: with very little meaningful time and very meaning you know,
Speaker 1: very little in terms of, you know, the drives that
Speaker 1: you can look at her series of plays that would
Speaker 1: have some meaning in those moments. The Patriots did not deliver.
Speaker 1: They got the win, for what that's worth, but nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, the times you really had the microscope on
Speaker 1: you and you're really looking at it, they came up short. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I I would agree with Mike. I think
Speaker 1: that the offense and what's this one tonight. Let's like
Speaker 1: Mac was off, you know, those first couple of drives.
Speaker 1: I thought they had passes to complete. He had a
Speaker 1: slant that was behind Parker. Parker probably should have caught it,
Speaker 1: but it was a bad throw. He had one that
Speaker 1: he sailed high over. Jacoby Myers just kind of looked unsettled,
Speaker 1: you know, seeing some of the highlights now, I just
Speaker 1: looked a little unsettled. Early in the game, they were
Speaker 1: able to get the first down. I think he picked
Speaker 1: up a third down that was able to move the
Speaker 1: chains and that seemed to settle him down. And then
Speaker 1: pick like an absolutely perfect deep ball to Nelson Agalore,
Speaker 1: which you know, was the really the highlight of the
Speaker 1: game in my opinion, certainly offensively, but it was the
Speaker 1: one highlight of the game offensively, you know, for the
Speaker 1: for the Patriots all night. And that led to the
Speaker 1: touchdown drive, nine play drive. You gotta think Bill was like,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, I need you to get fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty plays. We can't be going three and out. You
Speaker 1: guys gonna be in, you know, and then they put
Speaker 1: together that nine play touchdown drive Ty Montgomery a couple
Speaker 1: of plays there toward the end. He finishes it off
Speaker 1: with a short touchdown run and you know, shake some hands,
Speaker 1: put some baseball hats on and get to the sideline
Speaker 1: rights it. Yeah. Um so, Paul, defensively, I thought they flashed,
Speaker 1: but you know that's all with a grain of salt
Speaker 1: based they played against when we get to the good
Speaker 1: is one of my first goods of the game, and
Speaker 1: you know, one of the few, so I guess we
Speaker 1: can do that. But yeah, it was. It was a
Speaker 1: night when we had our you know, our peepers peeled
Speaker 1: for the first team offense to see what they could
Speaker 1: get going. And I think you summed it up, Paul,
Speaker 1: aside from the you know, the long completion to Aggalore,
Speaker 1: um and you know Mac Jones going what was a
Speaker 1: four four for eight for sixty one yards on one
Speaker 1: pass too gorgeous, gorgeous play like. And we've seen that
Speaker 1: a little bit like I would say, we've seen it
Speaker 1: a little bit more frequently the last I don't know
Speaker 1: four or five days that we got to watch um.
Speaker 1: But what I liked about that is that's not a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty ball. That's what I'm not going to just
Speaker 1: throw the ball up and see if my guy can
Speaker 1: make a play for me. That's my guys running down
Speaker 1: the sideline. He's covered by their guy, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to throw it a spot where my guy can get it.
Speaker 1: That was that was offense, like not like flukey. That's
Speaker 1: how you want to that's how you draw it up.
Speaker 1: That's the play was beautiful. And again, I know I've
Speaker 1: been saying this all all summer. So far, Nelson Agilore
Speaker 1: has been their best receiver in camp. Yep. It's just tantalizing.
Speaker 1: They had these moments and not even you know, there
Speaker 1: have been something like this with Agilore, but you know,
Speaker 1: even some of the contested catch with Parker. It's just
Speaker 1: you know, so you see these plays happen. So it's like,
Speaker 1: I know you guys have it in you, but it
Speaker 1: just seems like the in rhythm drive can drive starters,
Speaker 1: you know, those kind of plays just they don't really exist.
Speaker 1: It's just it's hard for them to get a rhythm
Speaker 1: right now. It's hard for them. I haven't yet to
Speaker 1: see all summer for them to get in him a
Speaker 1: rhythm and roll off play after play, and you feel
Speaker 1: like things are clicking. It's just it's it's so sporadic. Still.
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the good the bad knee injury.
Speaker 1: Here we go. Now it's time for the good, pretty
Speaker 1: good sperathdayperthday, pretty good, the bad, and the injured eye. Ah,
Speaker 1: you are right, guy. The good the bad knee injury
Speaker 1: brought to you by the good players, the bad players,
Speaker 1: and the injured players. We begin with Paul Parillo, who
Speaker 1: is always a beacon of sunshine, giving us his first
Speaker 1: good on the game. I'm gonna go with my first good.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Nelson Agilore. I thought that he, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the offense, as we said, was was struggling
Speaker 1: a little bit, and he made I think the third
Speaker 1: down catch too that gave him the first first down, UM,
Speaker 1: and then obviously gets open deep and and comes up
Speaker 1: with a big play on the down the sideline forty
Speaker 1: five yards. You obviously didn't play a tremendous and I
Speaker 1: think the offense played about fifteen plays, um, But I
Speaker 1: thought he gave them a lift when he was out there.
Speaker 1: Nelson Agilore continuing a strong summer. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know how you're saying anything. Other than good. And as
Speaker 1: Deuce you said, you know, it's been their best receiver
Speaker 1: throughout camp here and he showed it again tonight. Absolutely good.
Speaker 1: Before we go any further, let's bring in Josh Ouch
Speaker 1: joining us now here in the Patriots postgame show presented
Speaker 1: by Cyber Reason. Josh, congratulations, big win twenty to ten.
Speaker 1: You gotta be happy about that. Definitely, Yeah, definitely a
Speaker 1: great win for the Team'll come together. We're just execute.
Speaker 1: It's a great fill and then you know, we just
Speaker 1: gotta build. Josh, you guys have just been all over
Speaker 1: the offenses. You played this summer. You got a sack,
Speaker 1: you picked up. You guys are just so disruptive, hands
Speaker 1: on balls, getting in the quarterback's face. What's the energy
Speaker 1: like right now on the defense where it just seems
Speaker 1: like all you guys are just kind of taking turns
Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback. You know, we're just hungry, you know,
Speaker 1: we're just hungry, and we're trying to go and do
Speaker 1: what it is that we do best. And you know, however,
Speaker 1: whatever it takes to you know, help the team win,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're trying to do. So we're just hungry.
Speaker 1: You know, that's That's what it comes down to. Josh.
Speaker 1: Early in the game, it looked like you were part
Speaker 1: of a package. I think Christian Barmore was coming in
Speaker 1: with you. Um, you know, whis and Judan already out there.
Speaker 1: You guys put a lot of pressure. Like Mike just said,
Speaker 1: back to back sacks. I looked like you got the
Speaker 1: better of the rookie tackle a kun who Um, you know,
Speaker 1: can you sort of run us through that play? And
Speaker 1: and what what you what you saw? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the guys did a great job, you know
Speaker 1: for pressure from a quarterback collapse in the pocket, and
Speaker 1: you know, I was just fortunate enough to finished. You know,
Speaker 1: the middle push definitely prevented a quarterback from stepping up.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you know, just working the fundamentals that we
Speaker 1: work every day in practice, you know that coach Cousinton,
Speaker 1: you know, to possess and you know, just kind of
Speaker 1: you know, falling back on the fundamental that's that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of the result of that play. So yeah, they
Speaker 1: were almost plays in succession you mentioned earlier and and
Speaker 1: duced it too about you and Dietrich and Juwan all
Speaker 1: getting into the backfield and getting into the quarterback I got.
Speaker 1: I have to imagine you got to start feeding off
Speaker 1: each other and you kind of feel that that momentum
Speaker 1: when when it's clicking for one of you, it seems
Speaker 1: like it's clicking for you know, all of you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we definitely, we all feed off each other's energy. You know.
Speaker 1: D Wise got the shack, you know, I got it,
Speaker 1: got one, Anthony got one, perk out one, Mitchell got one.
Speaker 1: Just name. You know, guys are feeding off each other,
Speaker 1: and you know it's just a great people guys, and
Speaker 1: you just continue to you know, learn from each other.
Speaker 1: So I just want to ask you about Anthony real quick.
Speaker 1: You guys came in together. He missed all the last year.
Speaker 1: Now he's back, you know, making an impact. But you
Speaker 1: know what's it like for you to see him, you know,
Speaker 1: coming back in after missing the year and making an
Speaker 1: impact here in the summer. I mean, that's my manage.
Speaker 1: He's right here next to me, like, yeah, just you know,
Speaker 1: you talked about it, and you know, to see it
Speaker 1: comes to froguishing right now and not being out there
Speaker 1: with my brother. It's just a great feeling, you know,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, we're just going to continue
Speaker 1: to build on it and continue to grow and get
Speaker 1: better to stake so well, you guys certainly showed it tonight.
Speaker 1: And as we're talking about the game here, just starting
Speaker 1: the post game, we're gonna be talking a lot about
Speaker 1: the defense tonight and praising you guys for another another
Speaker 1: great effort here in tonight. Thanks for the time, Josh,
Speaker 1: were appreciate it. Awesome, Thank you, all right, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much, Josh. There he goes, Josh, Uch there, I
Speaker 1: got a chair up back there in that lock. I
Speaker 1: like it. That was. I mean, as as we're you know,
Speaker 1: going through the goods here, and we start off with
Speaker 1: you know, Paul started us off with Aglare. I don't
Speaker 1: want to steal your thunder dudes, but I gotta believe
Speaker 1: you know, defense is, you know, among the first things
Speaker 1: you mark down in the good category tonight. Yeah, for sure, Hardy,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Jawan Bentley. Um, I just I
Speaker 1: just love what he's bringing right now. And you know
Speaker 1: you had some turnover at that position. I just felt
Speaker 1: like he was all over the place, right out of
Speaker 1: the gate, blowing up the screen, the tackle for loss.
Speaker 1: I just I just love what he's bringing to the defense.
Speaker 1: Right now. I don't know if he's going to be
Speaker 1: an every down guy, but I just I thought he
Speaker 1: kind of set the tone early on with some of
Speaker 1: his plays. So I got j One Bentley on their
Speaker 1: first for me. Yeah, I had him r at the
Speaker 1: top of my list I did. I had I had
Speaker 1: Bentley getting into the backfield on a play. And then
Speaker 1: as as Josh just said, you know, pretty much back
Speaker 1: to back with with he and Dietrich Wise getting into
Speaker 1: the backfield getting the sacks, and you do feel like
Speaker 1: that's that is, you know, coming together as a unit.
Speaker 1: These guys are feeding off each other and they're they're
Speaker 1: they're feeling a little bit which is great. And I
Speaker 1: don't want to get too you know, excited about the summer,
Speaker 1: you know, and we've I've gone down that road many
Speaker 1: times in the past and been burned by it. But
Speaker 1: like so you get up a little bit of a drive,
Speaker 1: you know. The Panthers made some plays they got in
Speaker 1: field goal range and it's first and ten from like
Speaker 1: the thirty five family blows up a screen for for
Speaker 1: a loss of four, and then it's back to back
Speaker 1: sax by Wise and h O. Right, our guests that
Speaker 1: we just spoke to and you know, suddenly the balls
Speaker 1: at midfield and it's like fourth and thirty and they're
Speaker 1: punting like you're not always going to force a three
Speaker 1: and out. Sometimes the team's gonna make plays. But then
Speaker 1: you got to find a way to make some plays
Speaker 1: and limit the scoring. And you know that was good
Speaker 1: complimentary defense, well a good plays in a row. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those three good plays. But I even had down the
Speaker 1: opening drive to run defense. On the opening drive I
Speaker 1: thought was real solid. You know, you came out there,
Speaker 1: you saw I was playing quarterback for the Panthers here tonight,
Speaker 1: although I didn't at first, Paul had to go, I'm like,
Speaker 1: who was in on the first drive? Who was J Walker?
Speaker 1: And uh, Matt corral was right to quarterbacks and poor
Speaker 1: mac Carrel ended up getting hurt had to come out
Speaker 1: of the game. But you kind of know they're going
Speaker 1: to be running the ball anyway, and the defense was
Speaker 1: up for it. And I thought the run defense looked
Speaker 1: good on that opening Panthers drive. So as we're you know,
Speaker 1: as we're nitpicking our goods, I had that down as
Speaker 1: my first good. Paul what else he wanted was? I mean?
Speaker 1: I had ouch also, you know, with the sack and
Speaker 1: and you know, we just talked about him, So I
Speaker 1: just thought that like that pressure that they had, um,
Speaker 1: and I mentioned it to Josh when we spoke to him.
Speaker 1: It looked like it was it was Barmore and Jay
Speaker 1: coming in, you know, and probably like Gotcha and guy
Speaker 1: coming out, and they just got after it like they
Speaker 1: they they made life really difficult. I mean, again, I
Speaker 1: know who was playing, so I'm not trying to make
Speaker 1: more out of it, but I thought that that pressure
Speaker 1: package that they had was really effective throughout the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and look, um, I think defensively is what you have
Speaker 1: to hang your hat on for this For this game tonight,
Speaker 1: there are you know, there're some offensive moments that stand out.
Speaker 1: We mentioned one already in Agalore, but I think most
Speaker 1: of these are going to focus in on the defense.
Speaker 1: Boss man Fred Kirsch joining us, now what just in
Speaker 1: time for your favorite part of the entire Pulse game,
Speaker 1: the good List. You know, let me just yeah, keep
Speaker 1: going with a good half. It's all good. It's all good, baby,
Speaker 1: it's all good. Was it all good tonight? Um? It
Speaker 1: was okay. You know, I think the first I think
Speaker 1: the first two drives well I'm sure you guys will
Speaker 1: talk about it, but um, I think all the wide receivers,
Speaker 1: with the exception of Hammond fared well at times, you know,
Speaker 1: all the way down the list. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people wide receivers. Yeah, I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people are clamoring for little Jordan Humphrey to make the team.
Speaker 1: I would say that in some capacity. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: about to put him on the good List. I have
Speaker 1: him on my good life. The connection he has with
Speaker 1: Zappy and it's one of those weird things of like
Speaker 1: a guy who's fighting for russa spot and he's clicking
Speaker 1: with like a young backup quarterback. Does that you know?
Speaker 1: Does that translate to that? But the special teams play
Speaker 1: the down and he's doing everything he can. He's a
Speaker 1: big guy, he's kind of unique. So yeah, I like
Speaker 1: little Jordan. I think he's doing everything you can. Right now, Sorry, Hardy,
Speaker 1: we put off by something. Oh no, not at all,
Speaker 1: Not at all. I mean I mean in terms of
Speaker 1: the wide receivers as a whole. You know, late in
Speaker 1: the game, there were a couple of flashes. But if
Speaker 1: you're if you're gonna, you know, pick one to put
Speaker 1: on the Good list. I think it's a galore and
Speaker 1: that's kind of where it stops in terms of the
Speaker 1: guy that you can just put across the board on
Speaker 1: the good list. Tonight, Trey Nixon had some good catches.
Speaker 1: I think for Trey Nixon. Trey Nixon's drop is you
Speaker 1: can you can't drop that and allow the guy to
Speaker 1: under cut him on the in the end zone, you mean, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah that one. Yeah, you know you hit him in
Speaker 1: the hands. Yeah, yeah, that's a bad drop. You can't.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sorry, I hate for one dropped out.
Speaker 1: What were the numbers on for Zappy? And I know
Speaker 1: Mac was like ZAPPI was sixteen to twenty five for
Speaker 1: one seventy three. Mac was four of eight for sixty
Speaker 1: one yards. So yeah, bit Zappy took it. They both
Speaker 1: took a sack. Yeah. So Born, I mean, Belichick was
Speaker 1: asked about Born and where you know, his whereabouts and
Speaker 1: he just said he wasn't available. But then I guess
Speaker 1: later in the press conference he said everyone he expects
Speaker 1: everybody to be available in Vegas next week except for Wilkerson.
Speaker 1: So we'll see if it's a situation with Born, you know,
Speaker 1: and who knows like it could be anything. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: Born and Trent Brown both you know wen't weren't out
Speaker 1: there tonight. Yeah, dude, So who else he got on
Speaker 1: your good list tonight? You know, I put I put
Speaker 1: Montgomery down. I don't know, I don't know. Right now
Speaker 1: I've got him, I feel, Yeah, Well, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: why I got him down. There were there were back
Speaker 1: to back runs. Obviously had the touchdown, but I had
Speaker 1: the offensive line and the job they did on his
Speaker 1: touchdown that was as much a part of that that
Speaker 1: good that I put him down for as I did
Speaker 1: for you know, he and the run itself. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought I thought the line, you know, was did their
Speaker 1: job on that. I just I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: more about the body of work. I thought it was
Speaker 1: a little bit of a sample of what he's been
Speaker 1: doing the summer. But I just I think he's a
Speaker 1: good change of pace and for some reason he seems
Speaker 1: to make the most happen in the run game right now.
Speaker 1: It's just there's not a lot going on there. Um
Speaker 1: not that either his runs. I mean, I thought the
Speaker 1: touchdown one was pretty tough and and pretty hard knows,
Speaker 1: But you know, I just think he's He's continuing to
Speaker 1: show that he's going to be a big part of
Speaker 1: this offense. And I just I wonder, you know, when
Speaker 1: are we going to see it from Harrison and Stevenson
Speaker 1: that they can get it going, because both of them
Speaker 1: just continue to kind of love me. I have Montgomery.
Speaker 1: I'm a good list. So yeah, I think Montgomery's fine.
Speaker 1: I thought he and I was impressed by the run
Speaker 1: before the touchdown. It was like a little toss to
Speaker 1: the left to the first down. Yeah, he kept back.
Speaker 1: He probably quote unquote shouldn't have gotten the first down.
Speaker 1: I thought he did a good job of breaking through
Speaker 1: an arm tackle and diving forward and set up first
Speaker 1: and goal from the two. Yeah, I think that's a
Speaker 1: fine one. More defensive guys, we talked about the pressure.
Speaker 1: I thought Jonathan Jones had excellent deep coverage. And again,
Speaker 1: these guys weren't out there the whole game. So like
Speaker 1: that guy was six like Taibon Garmer for you. Now,
Speaker 1: I will say he clearly got away with the penalty
Speaker 1: on that, but I loved where he was in the coverage.
Speaker 1: He was right, you know, the expert the football guys
Speaker 1: will tell you he was in phase. Uh, he was
Speaker 1: right on his hip the whole way down the sideline.
Speaker 1: I think their deep coverage has been really good so far,
Speaker 1: and in um in a couple of these preseason games.
Speaker 1: So I had Jonathan Jones down with his deep coverage
Speaker 1: on that play. I thought that was really really so
Speaker 1: height advantage to that. We we like that. That play
Speaker 1: had me looking at the How tall was that receiver?
Speaker 1: Sixty three? He grabbed itself? Oh yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 1: We were kind of talking about it on the broadcast
Speaker 1: a little bit. We brushed that under the block, Fred,
Speaker 1: what else? I caught your ride? And would you have
Speaker 1: your peepers peeled? Four? Who who is popular in your ocular?
Speaker 1: I mean you have to take it with a grain
Speaker 1: of salt, you know, because where they going? But I
Speaker 1: think Wise flashed a couple of times some nice plays. Um,
Speaker 1: Carl Davis had a couple of nice plays when he
Speaker 1: came in right away. Uh um, trying to think somebody
Speaker 1: else up front caught my eye early? Um, well mcgrown,
Speaker 1: I thought, uh to V had a lot of reps.
Speaker 1: I mean he played almost the whole game in and out. Um,
Speaker 1: were you surprised that much? Mack Wilson plays a little
Speaker 1: bit and I'm pretty much the whole mack Wilson. You know,
Speaker 1: he didn't have a lot of tackles, but he's got
Speaker 1: good speed. I was going to bring him up, you know,
Speaker 1: he gets to think. But I did say it to
Speaker 1: Evan and because it felt like in those first few
Speaker 1: drives and this is kind of the top group to VI,
Speaker 1: seemed like the guy out there, but it seemed like
Speaker 1: they were kind of just in their base three four,
Speaker 1: you know, So I guess I kind of get that,
Speaker 1: but I was surprised that that mac Wilson wasn't really
Speaker 1: involved in that. But I like him. He continues to
Speaker 1: just look really faster, didn't I didn't. I didn't love
Speaker 1: him tonight. I mean I didn't think he was bad,
Speaker 1: but he didn't make a lot of plays. I just
Speaker 1: thought he was He's in the area. He was an
Speaker 1: almost tonight. Yeah, like he was flashing a little bit. Yeah. Um, well,
Speaker 1: who wasn't an almost? Who actually made the good list? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a guy that that Fred was really
Speaker 1: high on last week. Sean Way, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: nice pick. He comes off his zone coverage. Um, he's
Speaker 1: down the field, he reads the play, comes up and
Speaker 1: made an aggressive player on the ball. And although I
Speaker 1: have to say from my angle, the moment that ball
Speaker 1: left the quarterbacks hand, I think it was corral that's gone.
Speaker 1: It was almost like it was in the air too
Speaker 1: long for punts up all night. Yeah. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: thought that was a good job by him, Like you know,
Speaker 1: they're in zone and he recognized the play. He came
Speaker 1: off of his guy and came up and undercut the
Speaker 1: intended receiver. I thought that was a good play on
Speaker 1: the ball. Now he shows up later too for not
Speaker 1: so good reasons. But I thought that was a really
Speaker 1: good play. Team got really hyped hyped for that too.
Speaker 1: Uh what else do we have on a good list?
Speaker 1: It's about all I got J J. Taylor. I thought
Speaker 1: it was. I thought he had a nice block in
Speaker 1: there that I think you got to give him cres
Speaker 1: um excellent police pick. I mean, listen for his second
Speaker 1: preseason game. I think Zappy had a fine game, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean the pick six. Yeah, but he but he
Speaker 1: shows he can throw it. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I had
Speaker 1: him good and bad. You know, I wanted to put
Speaker 1: him on the good list, and then immediately you would
Speaker 1: do something so totally but he also got hurt. He
Speaker 1: also got hurt by you know a lot of penalties
Speaker 1: that Stall drives. I thought, you know, for a guy
Speaker 1: with no experience, I thought he did Okay, yeah I
Speaker 1: did too. I did too. I mean, I don't have
Speaker 1: anything against him, but I don't know. I thought he
Speaker 1: was better last week. I think he meets some throws.
Speaker 1: He definitely, I mean with a little Jordan some of those.
Speaker 1: I mean downfield before the half, it was moving pretty
Speaker 1: well before they got the penalty that somebody on the boxes.
Speaker 1: Does he remind you of Drew Brees as it? No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know that he's going to be
Speaker 1: on anyone's good list. But um no, Devin, as you know,
Speaker 1: he played too. He played a lot and could he
Speaker 1: be well, I think we're so starved for anything from him.
Speaker 1: Well just in terms of you know, what's going on
Speaker 1: with Hunter Henry right now, and you're thinking, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: is this a guy that you know could be you know,
Speaker 1: playing himself into some would you rather have Asias or
Speaker 1: a little Jordan Humphrey. That's a good debate, That is good.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're listening to the broadcast Life frat By age,
Speaker 1: I was, did you like when I, you know, like
Speaker 1: when I went when I made like a Stanza and
Speaker 1: I come in with those close ness. I liked made
Speaker 1: the point that you know, your third tight end is
Speaker 1: usually more of a blocking type, and you know, but
Speaker 1: those you know, I just kind of brought up Humphrey
Speaker 1: for Mike. Mike and I have been talking about this
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks. Hardy just he's not really fast,
Speaker 1: little Jordan Humphrey. He's a six four guy, like two
Speaker 1: twenty five to thirty, probably not really big enough to
Speaker 1: be a tight end, but they use him kind of
Speaker 1: as a tight end, like all of his catches almost
Speaker 1: or between the numbers down the scene, and he's been
Speaker 1: effective doing that. I wonder if maybe he's sort of
Speaker 1: in that battle as a big slot type that can
Speaker 1: give you that kind of stuff. I still think ASSISI
Speaker 1: is the third tight end. And I did you say
Speaker 1: that he was or Hardy which one of you guys said,
Speaker 1: good list for him? No, I said, Humphrey's definitely on
Speaker 1: the good list. That special teams play alone puts him on.
Speaker 1: The specialty was fantastic, I said, ASSISI, I don't know
Speaker 1: if I want him on the good list, but is
Speaker 1: he showing enough to astly made some place? And and
Speaker 1: Mike and I have been like, you know, Hunter, Henry's out,
Speaker 1: You're getting more opportunities you got to take advantage of.
Speaker 1: I mean, he catches a touchdown late in the two
Speaker 1: minute drill the other day and the joint practices, but
Speaker 1: he also had a ball knocked out of his hands
Speaker 1: that were like you can't you can't afford those. Tonight,
Speaker 1: every time the ball was thrown his way, he looked
Speaker 1: fluid and comfortable catching it. Speaking of the broadcast, Paul, Uh,
Speaker 1: Bob and Zoe didn't know it was a touchdown until
Speaker 1: the extra point that last play because the safety well
Speaker 1: they originally yeah, they did originally put his safety up
Speaker 1: on the board. Yeah, And they were going with the
Speaker 1: safety until the guy I lined up to kicks the
Speaker 1: extra point and Bob was I think that was a touchdown. Wow,
Speaker 1: Well they missed the the angel or bomb too, didn't
Speaker 1: They were They were on Burton with Burton. Burton was talking,
Speaker 1: but they didn't like, we didn't miss it. This is
Speaker 1: clearly they thought it was safety. Oh yeah, no, they
Speaker 1: showed it. It's preseason for Bob and Scott two preseason
Speaker 1: from calling timeouts fifteen seconds left and a half so
Speaker 1: we could punt on fourth and like a hundred. I mean,
Speaker 1: it didn't make sense less. He just wanted. I think
Speaker 1: he had the right. I think he thought. Now, I'll
Speaker 1: guarantee you they'll tell you that they wanted to work
Speaker 1: on plus fifty punting. I'll guarantee. But but I I'll
Speaker 1: tell you that he thought it was third down because
Speaker 1: that penalty on Fern's was ruled a post play penalty,
Speaker 1: so the down count. And that's what happens when you're
Speaker 1: paying attention to too many things, and selfishly, whenever you're
Speaker 1: calling time out, Fred willing to take it to places
Speaker 1: that I wasn't right. If you're thinking about what's the
Speaker 1: next offensive play or whatever? Sure, you know sure, And
Speaker 1: selfishly when you're calling time out at all in a
Speaker 1: preseason game, I'm just looking at my watch saying, what
Speaker 1: are we doing? You know, what are we doing? You
Speaker 1: want to practice your two minutes about my boy Bledsoe
Speaker 1: had a nice hit to cause that fumble on the
Speaker 1: on the catch, you know, nice textbook in the helmet,
Speaker 1: all right. I just think overall the speed on defense
Speaker 1: looked really good. I agree, Freddie, Yeah, they're faster. It's good.
Speaker 1: It's good. That's good. It's a good way to put
Speaker 1: a ball on the good list. Now we go to
Speaker 1: the bats coming together friend. Now we go to the
Speaker 1: bad list, so that we go to the most separate
Speaker 1: now because he won't have any okay, the most negative
Speaker 1: guy in the room, of course, Mike do so first
Speaker 1: on the bad list, we're to start. I'm gonna start.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with easy just to sloppy play. And
Speaker 1: there's another week of of eleven penalties twelve penalties last week.
Speaker 1: I mean, we can just you know, run down through
Speaker 1: each each specific one. Um, but I just I think
Speaker 1: it's sloppy and it doesn't look I don't want to
Speaker 1: say it well coordinated. Uh that's a loaded word right
Speaker 1: now with coordination. But I just you know, they're killing
Speaker 1: themselves with the same kind of mistakes that we've seen
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years pre snap penalties. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, bad timing, losing their cool, that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's not going to allow them to
Speaker 1: get better if they keep doing these things and putting
Speaker 1: themselves behind the eight ball with all these self inflicted mistakes.
Speaker 1: So for me, it starts there with just the sloppiness
Speaker 1: that you did to yourself with all the penalties. Paul,
Speaker 1: you are you got one? Mac? Yeah, I just don't
Speaker 1: you know. The bomb I talked about at length right
Speaker 1: off the top of the show was the best play
Speaker 1: by far of the night, and it was an absolutely
Speaker 1: perfect throw. So I said that I'm not ignoring. But
Speaker 1: he threw eight passes and he had one perfect one.
Speaker 1: I thought he missed Parker on the slant. I thought
Speaker 1: he overshot Myers. Those are players like those are pitching catches.
Speaker 1: Those are supposed to be drive starting kind of plays.
Speaker 1: I just thought he was a little often and unsettled.
Speaker 1: And the one on Myers not only was it high,
Speaker 1: but had it been lower, it was still late. It
Speaker 1: was still late. He was very indecisive. Takes a long
Speaker 1: time to get there. It was on that ball, Yeah
Speaker 1: it was. He was very indecisive in the first two drives. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I'd like to go chronologically on these lists sometimes, and
Speaker 1: you know that opening drive, it's like we're going to
Speaker 1: see the first team offense. We're gonna get our first
Speaker 1: real look at it. What's that first pass going to
Speaker 1: look like it's a bad pass to DeVante Parker that
Speaker 1: still should have caught it. I mean, if he had it,
Speaker 1: it's bad. Bad it was it was. He could have
Speaker 1: had it. I'm not saying he should have had it.
Speaker 1: He could have had it. It was a bad pass.
Speaker 1: It was a bad pass. And you know, and again
Speaker 1: this is what we're starved for, some flow and some
Speaker 1: rhythm and some sign that the offense is going to
Speaker 1: work in your first opportunity due to really show it
Speaker 1: to us, you get that. And that's the first thing
Speaker 1: I worked on. It is like, well, this is bad.
Speaker 1: This is bad. Right away it's bad. It was almost
Speaker 1: like Mac was still not at one hundred percent speed
Speaker 1: and it took him a little couple drives to realize, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: we're playing for real here. These are live you know,
Speaker 1: live pressure might be right. It's just all kindas looks
Speaker 1: the same. I mean, I just you know, I'd like
Speaker 1: to see some progress, but it's just this is what
Speaker 1: it's been. Yeah. My key was I wanted to see
Speaker 1: some rid them established an offense, and I don't really
Speaker 1: felt like I even like the touchdown drive was terrific.
Speaker 1: Nine play drive but you know, forty five of it
Speaker 1: came on one play, right. It wasn't like they had
Speaker 1: like a you know, a good sequence of plays to
Speaker 1: move down the field. Um, and then two three and
Speaker 1: outs obviously not ideal. Yeah, not like not panic central
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Um. But I don't think it
Speaker 1: was probably the start that Bill was hold. The line
Speaker 1: was shaky to start. Yeah, and you had no win,
Speaker 1: no Brown. Yeah, you had a when you kicked out
Speaker 1: to tack of Ferrens in there, and I thought Ferrence
Speaker 1: really struggled tonight. He's on my bad list. He gives
Speaker 1: up a bad sack, I thought on the first on
Speaker 1: the first drive where he wasn't really competitive, and then
Speaker 1: it's a terrible penalty. Like we talked a lot about, well,
Speaker 1: this is what the undisciplined teams do with the with
Speaker 1: the joint practice fighting, and a lot of us in
Speaker 1: Boston here have been sort of pointing the finger at
Speaker 1: Carolina for being more responsible for the fights. That was
Speaker 1: a cheap shot, was on the replay. It didn't it
Speaker 1: didn't look bad. Heart came up after her and they said,
Speaker 1: what did you think about that play? By ferren'side, there
Speaker 1: was a cheap shot and it's like, no, they hit
Speaker 1: the guy that was causing trouble and practice. That was great.
Speaker 1: You can't do well that. I didn't even I didn't
Speaker 1: even know that. Yeah, now it's even worse than my
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't know it was the it was
Speaker 1: twenty it was twenty seven that got hit. Then Kenny Robinson. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: but and and it wasn't as bad on the replay.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a full blown It was kind of like
Speaker 1: a shoulder to shoulder. But you can't do it. It
Speaker 1: was late. It was way late. You can't do it.
Speaker 1: And I think twenty seven he did his own and
Speaker 1: Bella I don't think he knew it was coming. But um,
Speaker 1: but you should have seen fit seeing heart. You know,
Speaker 1: the taking beers. You know they were giving away four
Speaker 1: packs of beer and the by the way, what happened?
Speaker 1: It might be did Andy get my beer? I gave
Speaker 1: it to Andy? Oh, okay, you don't drink? I pa
Speaker 1: do you? I wouldn't know. It's it's I was just Mike.
Speaker 1: Mike had promises. But they're going around, okay, I's I
Speaker 1: call them beer pigeons. They were just going around and
Speaker 1: like taking as much beer as like it's kind of
Speaker 1: really take of gidding, I'm not kidding. Well, that's just
Speaker 1: sleeping in my house when he got see if he
Speaker 1: can bring one of those big Jet Blue tickets. Those
Speaker 1: are fun. I mean, I don't know if you can.
Speaker 1: Actually it was given away the big the big thing.
Speaker 1: You guys probably don't get to see it. You don't
Speaker 1: get to see the big videos, see anything. All right?
Speaker 1: Uh Fred, Yeah, give me a bad, give me a bad.
Speaker 1: That hasn't I agree, that hasn't been mentioned yet. I
Speaker 1: agreed with Paul and Mac he did. Yeah. I was stunned. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: that's all he has in the huddle on offense. I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the penalties. Like again last week they didn't
Speaker 1: have enough guys on the field on defense or too
Speaker 1: many on the field and defense. This week they too
Speaker 1: many in the huddle. Yeah that's well, I think that
Speaker 1: I think it looked it looked that way. Let me
Speaker 1: let me throw one out here and by the way,
Speaker 1: thought we both get we'll get to that. Yeah, the drops,
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter drops, you know Train Nicks and Josh Hammond,
Speaker 1: you know, back to back. It's like, yeah, had them
Speaker 1: both on my list. I don't know how you make
Speaker 1: it to this level. And Hammonds I thought was especially
Speaker 1: egregious where it's like, Okay, you're trying to make the team.
Speaker 1: I get it. You know you're a bubble guy. I
Speaker 1: get it. You have to be so good to make
Speaker 1: it to this level where you're considered to be a
Speaker 1: bubble guy in the NFL. How you don't catch that
Speaker 1: ball in that moment? And I understand the pressure and
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but you've been in these moments before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is not this is not your first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just to me, it's it's remarkable that that could
Speaker 1: happens to multiple guys on the same night. Back in
Speaker 1: the production. I don't know if they've got the Trey
Speaker 1: Nixon drop in the touchdown in the end zone queued up.
Speaker 1: I'd like to see that again, because he did. The
Speaker 1: other guy did have an armbar on him, you know,
Speaker 1: because he only was able to raise one hand at first.
Speaker 1: Um live, it looks, oh, he should have caught that,
Speaker 1: but when you look at it closely, the other the
Speaker 1: defender was at his hands. He did in the same
Speaker 1: thing that I commented on Thornton on the deep ball
Speaker 1: last week. He let the ball come to him instead
Speaker 1: of putting his hands up and catching it. I got
Speaker 1: a pretty good look at the replane. I thought the
Speaker 1: same thing that you did, Fred, And upon further review,
Speaker 1: he still should have called still should have had it
Speaker 1: and and it was it wasn't it was contested. He
Speaker 1: still should and he actually I thought, initiated the contact
Speaker 1: by pushing, like I don't think it was a penalty
Speaker 1: on anybody, right, But he made the first contact with
Speaker 1: the armbar out and then the guy sort of try
Speaker 1: to fight through that and that's when they got kind
Speaker 1: of got tangled. But I think you're right, hearty. I
Speaker 1: think the ball ended up getting to his body, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was a very catchable pass in the
Speaker 1: bread basket. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like when
Speaker 1: you're like you're you're fighting for a rash spot, you
Speaker 1: can't afford to lose opportunities. And I think probably as
Speaker 1: as as damaging as the pick, like he ran kind
Speaker 1: of a you know, a lazy out, didn't really come back,
Speaker 1: and I didn't think he came back and fought to
Speaker 1: break up the pick for his quarterback. Bad play by Zappie.
Speaker 1: I mean it's on him, not not Trey Nixon, But
Speaker 1: I think that those plays not good, No, not good.
Speaker 1: What else he got their time? I was going to
Speaker 1: throw Marcus Jones on there, unfortunately. I was really looking
Speaker 1: forward to watching him return a couple of punts and
Speaker 1: both of them, or I think it was two of
Speaker 1: them were pulled an adventure well set the other one
Speaker 1: bobbled it and almost lost it. Uh that was all
Speaker 1: my boy, rookie rookie moment for him. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: his first game action. But you know that's just doing
Speaker 1: push ups on the sideline. Never never a good thing.
Speaker 1: But also I made the comment about Farnce and like
Speaker 1: the chippiness that you had and what we're going to
Speaker 1: see any of it? And I thought that was an
Speaker 1: example Bomba was rough in the pastor was cheap? I
Speaker 1: didn't see it was it was a late hit. It
Speaker 1: was really late, yeah, and really unst it was dumb
Speaker 1: dumb um. So I had him on the bad list
Speaker 1: just for that one play. Not that he played bad
Speaker 1: in the game, but that's the kind of play in
Speaker 1: a real game that can really hurt you, you know,
Speaker 1: anything else specifically where want to get to on the
Speaker 1: bad list here? I just I just was kind of
Speaker 1: grossed out that they were two for twelve and third down.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just, you know, I think that's just overall,
Speaker 1: they had no clutch, they had no you know, ability
Speaker 1: to make plays when it counted. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: think they should have kept Mac in for another series
Speaker 1: at least, I mean, the only thing I would consider
Speaker 1: was just the fact that the offensive line was banged up.
Speaker 1: I took that a little bit into consideration. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, we're going into one more week here,
Speaker 1: You're gonna have two joint practices and one more preseason game.
Speaker 1: I feel like I've learned nothing about this offense from
Speaker 1: the first day we saw him. They made a couple
Speaker 1: of plays, but you know, from from the jump down,
Speaker 1: I wanted to see a full half. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see you know, you know, plenty of Mac. And at
Speaker 1: the end of it, Fred I kind of felt glad
Speaker 1: they were putting me and him out of our missile. Seriously,
Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't working, it wasn't clicking. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't I didn't need to see. I called for fifteen
Speaker 1: or twenty plays. I think they had fifteen. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was three, three and ten, So I think of sixteen Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, anything else boys before we get to the injured, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that might be one of the worst parts of the
Speaker 1: whole game. So, I mean I had a couple of
Speaker 1: individual things. I think Kevin Harris flashes a little I
Speaker 1: don't see really a whole lot from Pierre Strong, like
Speaker 1: just in those two running rookie running backs, not really
Speaker 1: the time. They don't belong in the good or a
Speaker 1: bad list. I just as an observation, Kendrick Bourne, is
Speaker 1: that worth like talking about as like a bad like yeah,
Speaker 1: whether I have no idea, yeah it could. It's you know,
Speaker 1: a pattern now this summer. He hasn't had a good summer.
Speaker 1: It's it's one of those things too, where like I
Speaker 1: feel like the media us we start to get a
Speaker 1: little bit of a beat on it. The last practice
Speaker 1: maybe was when we first really started like talking about
Speaker 1: is this the thing with Bourne? Is he running with
Speaker 1: the twos? You know? And then it kind of gets
Speaker 1: confirmed that something might be going on. Maybe maybe not,
Speaker 1: though of course you got to disclaim. I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy could have COVID or whatever. But well, and that's
Speaker 1: what I was wondering because I and I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I can't see the whole sideline. Greg Badard before
Speaker 1: the game said he didn't see Billy Yates on the sideline,
Speaker 1: and he's the assistant offensive line coach. Now, Trent Brown's
Speaker 1: one of the guys who's not dressed tonight that we
Speaker 1: don't know about any injury. So my immediate reaction is
Speaker 1: one of those guys has COVID and the other guy
Speaker 1: was like a close car whatever, something like that, and
Speaker 1: then you're like, well, born in Trent Brown have no
Speaker 1: injuries that we that were aware of. I wonder if
Speaker 1: maybe it's something like that. I heard that Born was
Speaker 1: getting a time out. I mean that's I mean, based
Speaker 1: on what we've seen, it's not. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: a leap to speculate that if you're going Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: he'd be fine for practices. That would be his five days.
Speaker 1: So who knows. We'll never know. Well, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: Was it COVID or was he benched? Um? What it
Speaker 1: got for the injuries there does? Yeah, what a buzz kill.
Speaker 1: This one was essentially big one, big one. Taekwon Thornton
Speaker 1: and shoulder announced out late in the game when I
Speaker 1: didn't even think he would probably be playing anyway. But
Speaker 1: I still just feel like that's concerned that they would
Speaker 1: rule somebody out. Hopefully it's just a precaution, but and
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, we're not bringing him back yet.
Speaker 1: But on the play, I just felt like it was
Speaker 1: it showed a rookie who doesn't have the savvy to
Speaker 1: get down and live to fight another day. Don't run
Speaker 1: back into the teeth of Brandon Cooks. I mean, he
Speaker 1: got four different guys landing on him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: got smoked. I love that he's trying to pick up
Speaker 1: some extra yards, but there's just a fine line between
Speaker 1: picking up some extra yards and putting yourself in harm's
Speaker 1: way when you're running back into the teeth of the
Speaker 1: defense and you're gonna get smoked. And he got smoked, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, Mac had one of those players tonight
Speaker 1: where he went down a little bit late. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 1: easy dah Well you know that. Yeah, I appreciate you're
Speaker 1: trying to get the extra two yards. They're not necessary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's just it's a buzz kill. Yeah, Douce, but
Speaker 1: tell me. Belichick actually said about little Jordan Humphrey, he's
Speaker 1: tight end dish, he's a big target. I love it, Douce,
Speaker 1: right on it. We've arrived. We have the pulse of
Speaker 1: we've arrived, young lad. Congratulations to you both. It's just
Speaker 1: he's just tall, tall arm Any other injuries that we
Speaker 1: need to bring him was the only It seemed like
Speaker 1: the Panthers had a bunch, But the Thornton one is
Speaker 1: just such a bum irving. Did he ever come back
Speaker 1: in the game? He that looks serious thought he did.
Speaker 1: I thought he didn't come back. He had come back
Speaker 1: in Yeah. I didn't see one Patriot player down. No, No,
Speaker 1: I don't. I can't remember one either. I mean, and
Speaker 1: I helped my breath though when Thornton went down, because
Speaker 1: I look like that didn't look so did he come up?
Speaker 1: Like I didn't notice some coming up gimpia. I think
Speaker 1: he stayed in the game at that point. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it's just a he did run
Speaker 1: a great you know, and I didn't get to see it.
Speaker 1: But as a play was happening live, Zoe like lost it,
Speaker 1: like he ran. I think the first play that Hoyer
Speaker 1: was in he ended up throwing it somewhere else, and
Speaker 1: he said that Thornton made a really good route and
Speaker 1: got open deep could have had a big play. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just it's it's it's it's tough. I think that
Speaker 1: they're a different team when he's on the field. I
Speaker 1: think that's a whole different dynamic. And you saw Aggler's
Speaker 1: ability to get downfield. I just I just want if
Speaker 1: with what they're trying to roll out there, which is
Speaker 1: probably going to be Parker, Agalore and Myers, if that
Speaker 1: set up has enough speed and dynamic ability to really
Speaker 1: get this offense into gear. I don't know, there's still
Speaker 1: a part of me that thinks that you gotta lean
Speaker 1: more into making Agalore and Thornton the main guys. Let's
Speaker 1: go to the phone. Eight five five pats, five hundred
Speaker 1: emails to web radio Patriots dot com. We begin with
Speaker 1: cousin Patty and agawan pat what's going on? Don't have
Speaker 1: a cousin Patty going on? Guys, Hey, hey, Boddy, Um,
Speaker 1: just to sort of rehash what I said. First off,
Speaker 1: Jordan Humphrey's making this team just based on the special
Speaker 1: teams play alone. He's making the team, Okay, and Plus
Speaker 1: you know, Belichick is said in the past, you know,
Speaker 1: do do what you can, make the most of your opportunity.
Speaker 1: He had from my account, yet four catches. Two of
Speaker 1: them he was covered, he was getting muggs made him
Speaker 1: and the other two he just separated. But just I
Speaker 1: said earlier, like, if if they don't shore up this
Speaker 1: offensive line, this this is going to be a long year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I believe in Max, but if they can't keep
Speaker 1: them protected, I'm worried. Yeah, unlike Paul, I do believe
Speaker 1: the offensive line is important, and I agree they've got
Speaker 1: to get it. Well, I think it's especially important with
Speaker 1: the quarterback that you have. And I'm well, no, because yeah, yourself.
Speaker 1: Guys guys that can move go to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: without great offensive lines, Guys that are kind of need
Speaker 1: the pocket. And he said it Wednesday, he said, you know,
Speaker 1: if I can have I if I have room to
Speaker 1: step into my throws and don't have bodies around my feet,
Speaker 1: I can make the throws, which would put him in
Speaker 1: a category with thirty one other starting quarterbacks in the league. Like,
Speaker 1: I think it's really important for him. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's really important for him that he needs a clean
Speaker 1: pocket because when he moves around, it's not that throw
Speaker 1: that you're talking about. Um Freddie with Myers. The one
Speaker 1: you said was high, but it was laid anyway. It
Speaker 1: was late as he was moving when he threw it,
Speaker 1: and he didn't get He doesn't have the arm strength
Speaker 1: to get it there. Pat thanks for the car, buddy,
Speaker 1: you appreciate it. Get it all right. Let's go to
Speaker 1: Mark here in Manchester, England. Mark, thanks for holding your
Speaker 1: on the Patriots postgame show. What's up, hi, guys? How
Speaker 1: are you doing? Excellent? And one thing I was doing
Speaker 1: five in the morning. I did see Paul on Talley
Speaker 1: and he was doing his mac Jones breathing exercises before
Speaker 1: he actually did his analysis. I was pretty impressive. So
Speaker 1: well done on that, Paul. Okay, he is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite analysts. He really did stop. You basically answered
Speaker 1: a lot of my questions. There's just one confirmation. Do
Speaker 1: you guys think that Jordan does make this team or not?
Speaker 1: And finally I'll take it off you. I'm going to
Speaker 1: say yes. Claire has got to be pretty happy that asked.
Speaker 1: He asked. He actually based some plays there, dude. She
Speaker 1: loves the tight she does tight ends. I'm here. I
Speaker 1: need to know more about the status of the wide receivers,
Speaker 1: Like is Born hurt in the doghouse? What's the deal
Speaker 1: there is Taekwon Thornton hurt? I think if those five
Speaker 1: guys are all healthy and not in trouble in any way,
Speaker 1: I think Humphrey, I think they cut him in and
Speaker 1: they'll get him on the practice squad. Yeah that's what
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, okay, um yeah, four am in Manchester.
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's so late, that's dedication. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he was up watching that game. How about that? I
Speaker 1: mean not just a game, that game like he's in
Speaker 1: the like he not only watched through the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: and all that, which I came down like five minutes left.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I got the gist of it. But then
Speaker 1: he waited an hour. Like I walked into the studio
Speaker 1: and you you were here, and I was kind of stunted,
Speaker 1: like I just didn't want to get caught in the
Speaker 1: writer elevator where it's two hundred people passed. I was
Speaker 1: getting I was getting the stink eye because they were
Speaker 1: trying to get in and set up the postgame press coverage.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to be out by five to five minute
Speaker 1: mark on home games, and you know, it's like I
Speaker 1: can't just leave. I need them to like tell me
Speaker 1: to go, because just in case they go to me
Speaker 1: and they're like looking, they're waiting to get set up,
Speaker 1: and you know, like when you have something like that
Speaker 1: to do, you just want to get it done right right.
Speaker 1: Everybody's looking at me. I like, sorry, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: guess on game pass people that were watching they could hear,
Speaker 1: uh the off screen banter between you and like Fran
Speaker 1: and oh and Bob and yeah. So yeah, but I
Speaker 1: mean that's a lot of that is just we're talking
Speaker 1: about what we're going to talk about the next segment, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: David in New York? What's up, David? Hey, guys, that's it?
Speaker 1: Go good sweet. Obviously obviously a huge win here today,
Speaker 1: super big impact. But anyways, I wanted to kind of
Speaker 1: touch on, like I feel like this has been an
Speaker 1: issue since last year maybe a little bit four. But again,
Speaker 1: I know it's preseason right now, but the dropped interceptions
Speaker 1: are really kind of bugging you right now, and you
Speaker 1: know you can't get them all, but man, he certainly
Speaker 1: could have gotten that one. Well that I mean Jack
Speaker 1: Jones has to Yeah, he has to catch that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And as a rule, I'm not as upset about dropped
Speaker 1: interceptions because if guys were better at catching balls, they'd
Speaker 1: be receivers. If for the most part, if on this
Speaker 1: team they don't have the margin, if they have a
Speaker 1: chance for a turnover, they've got to they've got to
Speaker 1: take it. I mean that was an easy pick. Yes,
Speaker 1: of course he did a great job of running that
Speaker 1: route for the receiver in better position. Um Karen Garigian
Speaker 1: real quick on Twitter perse source pages tackle Trent Brown
Speaker 1: isn't injured. He was given the night off. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: filming the mass singer Protect the franchise. What do we
Speaker 1: think about that? Um, So, night off for a lot
Speaker 1: of people means you still dressed, but you don't play.
Speaker 1: But for him, you don't have to even show up.
Speaker 1: Not not buying it for that very reason. Freddy's been around,
Speaker 1: he knows Bill wants you. Now. I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: but in the second half, I don't think McCaffrey and
Speaker 1: Mayfield were even out on the bench. I saw McCaffrey
Speaker 1: Mayfield come out late. They had a lot of guys
Speaker 1: not even dressed. The penalty McCaffrey dressed. He never I
Speaker 1: mean he was in on the warm ups. He you know,
Speaker 1: he was running plays during warm ups. Maybe a lot
Speaker 1: of those guys took their equipment off at half time.
Speaker 1: I think, so you might be right. Yeah, just so
Speaker 1: many guys down there not in uniform on the sideline.
Speaker 1: It just it. Yeah. Bill did that one year, and
Speaker 1: I don't think he liked it. Was a real bad look.
Speaker 1: He didn't like the comportment. I think when you're at
Speaker 1: you act differently. I think you're right, you know, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but don't get to put your hands in your shoulder. Right.
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Speaker 1: presented by cyber Reason Big Win for the Patriots tonight
Speaker 1: twenty to ten over the Carolina Panthers after a week
Speaker 1: of joint practices. Before we get to Bob, who's in
Speaker 1: the hot tub? Sexy Fred? Overall the chippiness this week
Speaker 1: training camp. We talked about it at length in the
Speaker 1: pregame show. You take anything good out of it? Or
Speaker 1: did you just think that was a bad look, bad
Speaker 1: look all around? Okay? Yeah, nonproductive, you know, just guys
Speaker 1: being immature. Yeah, both sides, both sides. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you, I agree with you. All right. Now we
Speaker 1: go to Bob mostly Panthers, though I would largely agree
Speaker 1: with that. Like the standing over thing on Wednesday was
Speaker 1: really like, I can't understand why the Patriots didn't like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if Matthew Slater is getting involved, then you know Slater.
Speaker 1: It was legitimately upset about it, which you don't see
Speaker 1: all that often. All right, Bob, are you actually in
Speaker 1: the hot tub? Are the jets on? The jets are off?
Speaker 1: I can tell the jets off. All jets are off? Okay?
Speaker 1: Is it a Jacuzzi brand? It's a thermospot but you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to do any product placement, but it's
Speaker 1: a you know, it's a nice hot I prefer sun dance,
Speaker 1: but go ahead, seating for five? Yeah, the five seater nice?
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you a swinger? Well, I don't want
Speaker 1: to go all right? Are you new? It might be listening?
Speaker 1: Don't good? So anyways, I got two thoughts on the linebackers.
Speaker 1: So is it premature to say that we kind of
Speaker 1: made out better in the Chase Winovich mac Wilson deal there? Yes,
Speaker 1: Well we'll see. I mean, I think he played lately.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious how big Matt Wilson's role is
Speaker 1: gonna be. I love it to be big. But you know,
Speaker 1: he wasn't like at that top line, like get him
Speaker 1: right out there right away. So isn't this the time
Speaker 1: of year that everybody kind of fell in love with
Speaker 1: Chase Winovich in the first place, with the hair right
Speaker 1: coming off the edge and sacking the quarterback, all really
Speaker 1: popping in preseason games. Absolutely, Now, mack Wilson can run.
Speaker 1: He you know, he got himself in the throwing lane
Speaker 1: tonight and knocked to pass down. You know, he made
Speaker 1: some place. Yeah, Jennings ditched some things late, but it
Speaker 1: was late. I think Jennings is making a push though, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, okay,
Speaker 1: and then camera camera grown. If you're a realtor and
Speaker 1: he comes to you, you're gonna tell him to buy
Speaker 1: rent or maybe football how to just be a hobby
Speaker 1: for you. I'll tell you. He had one nice play
Speaker 1: from his position across the field. It was a run
Speaker 1: to the edge and he shot through the edge and
Speaker 1: made the play for like a one yard game, real
Speaker 1: good speed, nice play. First time I've ever seen him
Speaker 1: make a play. Oh, so you've made it like that's
Speaker 1: what they make fun of me for that. No, I've
Speaker 1: never first time, he's never because he's not hasn't been
Speaker 1: on the field that I miss. I missed the first
Speaker 1: play I've ever seen him make. I still haven't seen
Speaker 1: him play. This was a nice one. Go back. I
Speaker 1: know the play you're talking about because we had an
Speaker 1: over runder on the amount of tackles he had an
Speaker 1: I was keeping tracking. That was one I had. It
Speaker 1: was a real nice play, nice speed, real shure tackle.
Speaker 1: Um came from distance and you know, limited it to
Speaker 1: a one yard run. It was really good. All right, Bob,
Speaker 1: appreciate it back in that five seater h Chase Winovic
Speaker 1: hot tub guy. But saltwater. He's a saltwater hot tup guy.
Speaker 1: I've got him pegged as being a guy who would
Speaker 1: be in due is a relaxation. But he doesn't want
Speaker 1: all the chemicals. Yeah, he's not putting the shock of
Speaker 1: blonde hair a different color. You know, you never know.
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful. We got we got some emails here.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from a coach Belichick here in a
Speaker 1: few minutes. But Ryan and Oceanside, California said, I never
Speaker 1: really had any opinions on Humphrey before tonight, but this
Speaker 1: game made me a genuine believer, really hoping he can
Speaker 1: make the team. Also, in any case, uh, any of
Speaker 1: you traveling to Vegas next week, I just spent the
Speaker 1: last four days there and it was regularly over one
Speaker 1: hundred degrees, So make sure to try all prepared for
Speaker 1: the heat. That hydrate. It makes packing easy. There's no sweatshirts,
Speaker 1: there's no sweatpants. There's not and I don't want to
Speaker 1: lose your buddy to make sure your hydra and hardy.
Speaker 1: I didn't know if you know, but the winds there
Speaker 1: are Santa Fe winds, so they're hot, so you don't
Speaker 1: even get any relief from the breeze. It's a hot breeze.
Speaker 1: Santa Anna's Santa Anna winds Santa and not Santa Fe.
Speaker 1: Santa and Santa Fe is delightful New Mexico. Yeah, Santa Anna.
Speaker 1: There's the high desert and you guys have all been
Speaker 1: there hot, you know what it's like. But it's you know,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever been there in August
Speaker 1: I have, Okay, so dry hot to be outside at
Speaker 1: two o'clock in the morning was my takeaway. If you know,
Speaker 1: a dry heat also like an oven. An oven is
Speaker 1: also a dry heat. Not a place that I want
Speaker 1: to spend any significant time. Wow, but you love theo
Speaker 1: you love the heat. I do love the heat. But
Speaker 1: but but a buck ten, I think is different than like, oh,
Speaker 1: it was ninety six in Boston. You're gonna step outside
Speaker 1: one of these nights. You're gonna be out, you know,
Speaker 1: well after midnight, you're gonna step out on into sidewalk
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be amazed because it's still gonna be
Speaker 1: one hundred and five degrees right, But you're just in
Speaker 1: an alternate reality. You're in like most of the time,
Speaker 1: you're in a casino. It's air conditioned, it's cold. You're
Speaker 1: like just live in life, loving things, and then you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to this other casino. You step outside
Speaker 1: and then Hord's like another Yeah, as you said, oppressive
Speaker 1: about that again, it's like marn like enough, you still
Speaker 1: have to go to Roberto's Taco shop. Yeah, you're pumping
Speaker 1: it up, and I could use some good Mexican food.
Speaker 1: I miss it. That's one of the things I miss
Speaker 1: most about the Southwest. Well, that's that's that's a must visit.
Speaker 1: Taco Bell doesn't do it for you because that that
Speaker 1: does the diarrhea for me. But not at the very
Speaker 1: least go to Del Taco. You know, that's just a gate.
Speaker 1: I went to Del Taco once and I this is
Speaker 1: not this is a true story. Yeah in La right
Speaker 1: right in Westchester and Airlex went to Del Taco. Swear
Speaker 1: to God, a tone enail in my nachos, A toenail.
Speaker 1: I'm never going back again. Clipped tonail. You know, I
Speaker 1: could clip your tonail. It could be a big thumbnail perhaps,
Speaker 1: but it was big enough. I think it was a toneail.
Speaker 1: And I never went back to Del Taco against it's
Speaker 1: my Del Taco story. I have to say that if
Speaker 1: that happened to me, it would be enough to keep
Speaker 1: me away from that place for life, unless it was
Speaker 1: like a real purpose. It looked like it would have
Speaker 1: to be a really really good place for me to
Speaker 1: go back. If you won't find that at Robert to
Speaker 1: Classic Classic High Cruise, says Matt from Connecticut. Is there
Speaker 1: any cause for concern that the first team offense hasn't
Speaker 1: gotten enough reps in the preseason games? So far? Eight
Speaker 1: attempts for Mac, three carries for Harris, two for Stevenson
Speaker 1: for their preseason totals, will they even play next week?
Speaker 1: This is a good question I want to get into.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess if joint practices me more anyway,
Speaker 1: then the game action isn't that important. Just worried a
Speaker 1: little bit. That's Matt in Connecticut, all right. So aside
Speaker 1: from their their their rep totals? What is next week game? If?
Speaker 1: If game one fred, which I came around on, if
Speaker 1: game one is the new game four, what is game three?
Speaker 1: Is it still game three? No? Game three is another
Speaker 1: game two? So you have a Game four and two
Speaker 1: Game two. Yes, So here's where I really really want to,
Speaker 1: like argue, but I have absolutely no idea what to expect.
Speaker 1: Does the math add up pull on one past two?
Speaker 1: I can't translate the math of of what what the
Speaker 1: preseason is now. I just I I hope they play
Speaker 1: into the second half. I hope the starter. I hope
Speaker 1: Mac Jones plays into the second Why exactly because I
Speaker 1: just think they need it. Like they just look terrible.
Speaker 1: I mean what like like it's like it's not playing
Speaker 1: going to help them like that that's helpful. Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think if anything's gonna be helpful, that's kind
Speaker 1: of play. Maybe I'm looking at this too simplistically, but
Speaker 1: I feel like, like like doosts right now, I think
Speaker 1: Bailey zappi is is prepared for that Week one? Any
Speaker 1: value in this? And I know I'm wrong. I know,
Speaker 1: like obviously all the coaches know what they're doing. I
Speaker 1: just I don't know what you get out of them
Speaker 1: out of this stuff. Well, listen, I know, like we've said,
Speaker 1: these joint practices are very important, and Bill might even
Speaker 1: value them more than the game. But you're not tackling
Speaker 1: in joint practice, and especially the quarterback. You know they
Speaker 1: can't hit you, so that changes your mindset. And that's
Speaker 1: why I said, in the beginning of this game, it
Speaker 1: looked like Mac was still in like, you know, red
Speaker 1: shirt mode, and it took a couple series before we realize, Oh,
Speaker 1: they're really coming after me. I gotta, I gotta, I
Speaker 1: gotta think quick here. Yeah, say you're you're using that
Speaker 1: as the reason why he looks slow. I think it's
Speaker 1: just as plausible that he looks slow as that he's
Speaker 1: still uncomfortable with this offense and he's moving slower because
Speaker 1: he can't react as quickly as he was. I'm not
Speaker 1: buying that, Like, what's so different about when he drops
Speaker 1: back to pass from last year? We are some things
Speaker 1: that are different and he has to you know, some
Speaker 1: of those stretched and they pull it back Anya, I
Speaker 1: don't think those are I don't think that's that's his
Speaker 1: skill set. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I like your point, Paul,
Speaker 1: And yeah, And I was kind of arguing that in
Speaker 1: my head of like does this really mean anything? Can
Speaker 1: we learn anything? But it's just has been. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be so surprised if they come out in week one
Speaker 1: and look pretty good because I just have never seen it,
Speaker 1: Like I'm literally, you've never seen a consistent period where wow,
Speaker 1: they're just really on today, great day. I mean maybe
Speaker 1: the first day of joint practices this week was was
Speaker 1: pretty good, but still didn't feel like anything about these
Speaker 1: Mac had been accurate to start, the offense would have
Speaker 1: looked fine. It wasn't like guys were, you know, not
Speaker 1: on the same page, or the ball was being thrown
Speaker 1: in the ground or any of that. It's just that
Speaker 1: Mac wasn't accurate to begin with. So it's not a
Speaker 1: problem of him looking slow, because there were times when
Speaker 1: Brady looked like he was. But I think part of
Speaker 1: his inaccuracy comes from indecisiveness, you know, like it's like
Speaker 1: the guy throw first, the pitcher throw the first, and
Speaker 1: he's thinking about it and he can't throw an accurate
Speaker 1: Then that's the offense. It's not the speed of the details.
Speaker 1: It's Mac. It's Mac. So Mac is the problem. It
Speaker 1: was the first two series it was well, he didn't
Speaker 1: play well and but there there you have it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there it is. Well. Maybe maybe Bill Belichick feels the
Speaker 1: same way. I'm sure he was asked about the play
Speaker 1: of his starting quarterback to night. Let's see what the
Speaker 1: head coach had to say as the game wrapped up
Speaker 1: here it was a win. You'd never know at the
Speaker 1: offense would have looked fine, You'd never know from listening
Speaker 1: to Fred Kirsh. But the Patriots did get the win tonight,
Speaker 1: twenty to ten, So you know it's right though, if
Speaker 1: he puts the slant on Parker or you know it's
Speaker 1: it's Myers, you know, a foot lower than he threw it,
Speaker 1: I don't think you're looking at the offense struggled tonight, Okay,
Speaker 1: But my point is this, Fred is saying that that
Speaker 1: Mac Jones looked slow, like he wasn't ready for game speed. Decisive, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: throws her off. So he would he was thrown off
Speaker 1: by the fact that he was seeing real game action tonight.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I I well, I will take what Mac
Speaker 1: has said and that he's thrown off and he's not
Speaker 1: he's not feeling this offense and he maybe he's not
Speaker 1: feeling it because feel it's a slant. What's the feel
Speaker 1: about a slant that play? Fred's Fred's right? Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I think I think there are elements of the pass
Speaker 1: a game that are every bit the same as that
Speaker 1: He's always done. And I think that was one place
Speaker 1: that was a quick you know, there was no reads
Speaker 1: on that. I'm just gonna get the ball all quick
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw a slant at DeVante Parker and
Speaker 1: he put it on his back hand and you and
Speaker 1: remember the third drive, he was getting the ball and
Speaker 1: immediately getting rid of it. Almost didn't even have a
Speaker 1: good grip on it sometimes. And that's why I feel
Speaker 1: like he needs to play a bunch like I mean,
Speaker 1: I just know, like for me, I'm not gonna be
Speaker 1: a pays no no, But I just wondering how much
Speaker 1: you get out I just want, and I wonder how
Speaker 1: much you're getting out of joint practices and how they
Speaker 1: really feel about it, you know. But I just I
Speaker 1: feel like from from my perspectives, like a hockey player,
Speaker 1: like I needed to play to get my hands back.
Speaker 1: I couldn't, you know, like I needed to get out
Speaker 1: there and do it. And you know the Fred's point,
Speaker 1: if he's not sharp, maybe just needs to play well. Listen,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm all four more reps. Let's not get
Speaker 1: them lit up. No, I don't like he did tonight
Speaker 1: in the first drive. Geez, yeah, I don't want that either,
Speaker 1: But I think there is something to be said for
Speaker 1: getting out there. And and I'm with you, I don't
Speaker 1: know what value there is in the in the joint
Speaker 1: practice this. Matthew Slater didn't seem to think too highly
Speaker 1: when you're fighting, but I think when they were playing,
Speaker 1: you know, in the offense and defense, I think you're
Speaker 1: you're scripting plays, You're getting situations that you want, You're
Speaker 1: calling for certain look, splitz is whatnot. You're you're predetermining
Speaker 1: this with the other coach that you can't do win
Speaker 1: a game like I can't. I don't know what I
Speaker 1: thought tonight, um, and I might be totally wrong on this,
Speaker 1: but when they had that fumble on the Bledsoew play
Speaker 1: and they overturned it and replayed and the Patriots took
Speaker 1: over in the red zone or close to the red zone,
Speaker 1: and that's when he went from Hoyer to Zappy. I
Speaker 1: wonder if that wasn't the plan that Hoyer, if they like,
Speaker 1: if they had just punted and then it was a
Speaker 1: regular drive, maybe it would have been Hoyer. But I
Speaker 1: think that he wanted to see I quick change and
Speaker 1: let's get the let's let the kid have a red
Speaker 1: zone possession. Maybe I don't know. I've seen Bill do
Speaker 1: things like that. It's weird just to give it was
Speaker 1: all right, you're good, But I don't know. Mac Jones
Speaker 1: has got as many reps in the joint practices this
Speaker 1: week as as anybody, and he didn't. He got all yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a lot of work. And how did that
Speaker 1: prep him for some some real you know, close to
Speaker 1: real time game action tonight? I guess not. But but
Speaker 1: your point already. I mean, I found myself thinking about it.
Speaker 1: It's like, Wow, Zapp's played a ton like you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like he he's done some things
Speaker 1: like you know, you've seen more. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: want to say for the game one week one. No
Speaker 1: wonder they said it on the blog is no they didn't,
Speaker 1: Yes they did. You need to be ready to be
Speaker 1: ready with the backups. Yeah, all right. Let's see what
Speaker 1: people were saying on the blog that Zappy's better than that,
Speaker 1: where a couple of people say, serious question, would you
Speaker 1: consider starting Zappy in week one? God, yeah, I'm not
Speaker 1: surprised at then. I shouldn't be, but I am. And
Speaker 1: I said, I'm gonna take your word for it. That
Speaker 1: this is a serious question. No, okay, good answer, friend,
Speaker 1: did you a part head coach Bill Belichick? After tonight's
Speaker 1: win over the Carolina Panthers at your Lette Stadium, here's
Speaker 1: the head coach. There's things that we could do better
Speaker 1: and clean up. But um, I thought there was progress.
Speaker 1: You know, we had a we had a good week here,
Speaker 1: a couple of good practice days against Carolina and then
Speaker 1: you know some of the guys that didn't get as
Speaker 1: must rest he has many reps in PC. It's got
Speaker 1: more reps um you know tonight. So I think we
Speaker 1: got a good, pretty good look at everybody who look
Speaker 1: at the film here and you know see how things went.
Speaker 1: But um, yeah, another step in the in the process,
Speaker 1: and we'll just keep keep grinding out here. Look forward
Speaker 1: to the week um in Vegas. You know, work with
Speaker 1: the Raiders and uh Josh and the coaching staff out there.
Speaker 1: So it's another opportunity for us to continue to build
Speaker 1: and evaluate our our team. So um, you know, I
Speaker 1: feel like we had a good week here and ready
Speaker 1: for no, hey, don't build good. Um. Mac mac Wilson's
Speaker 1: made a pretty big difference since he's come here. Um,
Speaker 1: how has he looked in the last two preseason games.
Speaker 1: Will you, um, Max really come on? Um, you know
Speaker 1: through the spring and then in preseason when certainly paths
Speaker 1: come on. He's an explosive player, contact player and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know at speed or team on both defense and
Speaker 1: a kicking game. So good to have him. And I
Speaker 1: think he's seeing a little more comfortable out there, you
Speaker 1: know each day each game. Um, you know what the
Speaker 1: guys he's playing with and in our communication, you know
Speaker 1: things like that. So, um, he's been a good addition.
Speaker 1: Thanks Bill. Last week you described the process of finding
Speaker 1: an offensive play call or you said you were in
Speaker 1: the middle of a process. It looked like Matt Petition's
Speaker 1: calling all the place tonight, would you describe that process
Speaker 1: for a sucting someone complete at this point? No, it's
Speaker 1: still a process. Bill over here. Oh sorry, it's okay.
Speaker 1: Han On Kendrick Bourne, why why didn't he suit up tonight?
Speaker 1: He's he wasn't available the the third drive off Civilly, Um,
Speaker 1: what did you see that sort of got the offense
Speaker 1: into a better flow than the first two. Well, we
Speaker 1: just missed a couple of plays on the first two. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's football. So I don't think there are really
Speaker 1: any any big problems are just you know, our execution
Speaker 1: and and um, um, just if we don't get that
Speaker 1: first down then obviously it's you know, it's a short drive.
Speaker 1: And just follow up on that. I mean to have
Speaker 1: that group cap it off on that third drive? How
Speaker 1: significant is that to just? I guess it was Mac
Speaker 1: some of the players stayed on there. But to have
Speaker 1: his night end on that, Um, how significant? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: go to strength and plays together. Um. Yeah, we shou
Speaker 1: could have done that earlier, but you know it was
Speaker 1: good to good to finally get that done. Hi Bill,
Speaker 1: are you good? Um? As someone who you know very
Speaker 1: much respects special teams in the punting game, how do
Speaker 1: you feel that the special teams fared tonight? Uh? You
Speaker 1: know we had our moments. Um. Then do a very
Speaker 1: good job in the return game punt return game. That
Speaker 1: trouble with the gunners didn't handle ball well. Anytime you
Speaker 1: don't handle the ball well, you're not kind of a
Speaker 1: good return game. So um, our coverage was was okay. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, made a couple of field goals, missed one,
Speaker 1: so it certainly could be better. Um, And we can
Speaker 1: coach it better. We can execute it better. But the
Speaker 1: put return game is disappointing. We didn't really do anything
Speaker 1: on that. Um you know, got a break when they
Speaker 1: had on sports and laconic penalty and they had a
Speaker 1: fifteen yards onto the last return there. But um, it
Speaker 1: should be better. It needs to be better. Bill, How
Speaker 1: would you describe the communication aspect between play caller and
Speaker 1: quarterback tonight? How I describe it? Normal? Coach co Stringe
Speaker 1: to play will you into the third quarter today? What
Speaker 1: do you see from him today? I'm sorry, Coach Strange
Speaker 1: played will into the third quarter today. Well again, for
Speaker 1: all the guys that don't have a lot of experience,
Speaker 1: certainly he would fall into that category. Just the more
Speaker 1: playing time, the more opportunity to get, the more they learn,
Speaker 1: the more they build their conditioning and and uh, you
Speaker 1: know see different things from the defense. Carolytten did nice
Speaker 1: job tonight and mix some things up with you know,
Speaker 1: some pressure or some man pressure, some zone pressure, or
Speaker 1: mix the fronts up. They have a good defensive front,
Speaker 1: which is good for our offensive line to see. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously we had some guys out, but that's that's gave
Speaker 1: some leipular some opportunities and getting the more snaps those
Speaker 1: guys who got, the better they get in a better
Speaker 1: chance we had to evaluate them, and hopefully we'll be
Speaker 1: able to get the get our group together this week,
Speaker 1: you know, in Vegas, and try to play with you know,
Speaker 1: as many players as we can. There were several players
Speaker 1: that you know, we would like to see out there
Speaker 1: tonight that weren't available. So um, that's usually the way
Speaker 1: it is. But sooner we get them back out there,
Speaker 1: the more consistent consistency we'll be able to build. Thanks. Hey, coach,
Speaker 1: was Matt Patricia calling the offensive plays the entire game tonight?
Speaker 1: Heat communication of the quarterback? Yeah, as far as calling
Speaker 1: the plays and it's there's a whole other process on that,
Speaker 1: but yeah, oh he did, communicating plays to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's normal, that's fun. So is the process still between you,
Speaker 1: Joe and Matt when it comes to selecting the plays. No,
Speaker 1: so as it following anyone else where. It's between you three.
Speaker 1: It's process. God. Yeah, Hey, Billy, can you talk about
Speaker 1: what you've seen from little here? Can you talk about
Speaker 1: what you've seen from little Jordan Humphrey throughout training camp
Speaker 1: and tonight looked like he made some good place tonight
Speaker 1: in the passing game. Man in the kicking game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's night some plays um for since he's been here.
Speaker 1: And he's a big kid that is tough and has
Speaker 1: very good hands and it's kind of a big receiver
Speaker 1: tight end ish type of guy. Has a good feel,
Speaker 1: very good instincts in the passing game, handles himself, handles
Speaker 1: himself well in the middle of the field, you know,
Speaker 1: with linebackers and under him, over him, in between him,
Speaker 1: kind of you know, does the right thing there and
Speaker 1: helps the quarterback out. And he's a big target and
Speaker 1: you know, we get some tough yards after the catch.
Speaker 1: You know, did a decent job blocking, you know on
Speaker 1: some of the perimeter plays. So um, and to show
Speaker 1: up in the kicking game. So that was a player
Speaker 1: that we got late. Wasn't with us in the spring.
Speaker 1: Signed him in July and um or late June whatever
Speaker 1: it was. Um, you know, it's coming off an injury
Speaker 1: last year. It's come in, really worked hard, and it's
Speaker 1: made a very positive impression here. So UM, I'm glad
Speaker 1: we have him. Hi. Billt um Max described some of
Speaker 1: the frustration he's had, you know, to date in the
Speaker 1: preseason and training camp. Do you feel like, confidence wise,
Speaker 1: he needed to see the type of success he saw
Speaker 1: on that third drive or is that not related to
Speaker 1: his growth? I mean, it's always nice to do well,
Speaker 1: that's always good, But I don't think mac lack's confidence. No,
Speaker 1: that's a question. Hey, Bill, Um, understanding you don't want
Speaker 1: to tell us much about the offensive play calling situation here. However,
Speaker 1: said that, how many don't put words in my mouth?
Speaker 1: I never said that. I'm not quoting you. I'm just cleena.
Speaker 1: It's trying to get the record straight here. Naturally. How
Speaker 1: aware or not aware are your offensive players about this process?
Speaker 1: I don't know, then, Bill. With Kendrick Bourne, do you
Speaker 1: anticipate him being available in Vegas this week? I expect
Speaker 1: probably all of our players to be available this week,
Speaker 1: with um maybe the exception of Wilkerson. So we'll see
Speaker 1: what happened, you know, unless somebody walks in with something
Speaker 1: here today. But I think that we should be pretty
Speaker 1: pretty close with everybody hopefully, so we'll see that goes
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Speaker 1: not put words into the mouth of head coach Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny. You know, I never said that. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, but well last week he told me not
Speaker 1: to worry about it, which is real quick though, and
Speaker 1: I had mentioned that last quote that he had about
Speaker 1: I expect all the players to be available next week,
Speaker 1: with the maybe the exception of Wilkerson. UM kind of
Speaker 1: missed it, like the lead there Thornton. He expects Thornton
Speaker 1: to be available next week, unless it slipped his mind. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it could have. And I that let me to kind
Speaker 1: of jump into Twitter right now just to see if
Speaker 1: anybody had reported anything. Nobody of substance saying anything, but
Speaker 1: some rumors that that it might have just been a stinger. Um,
Speaker 1: not from reliable sources, but people who you know, maybe
Speaker 1: you're I just think that if it was something that
Speaker 1: they were fearing was significant, I don't think he would
Speaker 1: have said I expect everybody to be available next week,
Speaker 1: with maybe the exception of Wilkerson. I just think between Mac,
Speaker 1: him and Barmore, those three, like I just I'd love
Speaker 1: to get a full season out of those three, Like
Speaker 1: those young guys who were really promising and exciting. It's
Speaker 1: just a buzz kill when you get a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate enjoyment. I hate intentionally be out the one thing.
Speaker 1: Just very quickly, he was asked about, you know, the
Speaker 1: play calling, and you know was it? Was it Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia calling the players? Denied? He said, no, no, okay
Speaker 1: was he? Was he the one, He's the one communicating
Speaker 1: to the quarterback? Okay, yes, Well there's a far bigger
Speaker 1: process than that. It's no, it's a process. Is it
Speaker 1: you Matt and Joe Judge deciding on the play call? No?
Speaker 1: Based on that? No, well, he said, no, he did.
Speaker 1: I have to pass words there because like not maybe
Speaker 1: not on every play, you know what I mean? So
Speaker 1: I think that they're all involved. He just said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm taking the words out of his mouth. He
Speaker 1: was asked, he said, is the process you Matt and
Speaker 1: Joe calling the plays? No? I have to see how
Speaker 1: I would have to know how he interpreted the question,
Speaker 1: you know, because I do think that all of them
Speaker 1: are saying something, you know, between plays. Oh well, Joe
Speaker 1: and Matt were saying plenty to each other after those
Speaker 1: first two offensive series they were huddled around that surface
Speaker 1: pro on the side. Well, and I didn't meant I
Speaker 1: didn't see this guy. I asked you, guys, I asked
Speaker 1: you when Evan during the game, like when on those
Speaker 1: three series when Matt came off, like, who was was
Speaker 1: anyone sitting next to him? Like I was looking and
Speaker 1: I did not see anyone sitting next to him. It
Speaker 1: was Matt and Joe talking to me that that's not good.
Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I think that there should be somebody
Speaker 1: immediately talking to him about what they saw and asking Mac,
Speaker 1: what did you see? I don't think that. I think
Speaker 1: that's something that's missing right now. All right, let's i'll
Speaker 1: step aside here briefly. We'll come back and we're going
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Speaker 1: sell Fred Kirsh and of course Paul Peroo, the man
Speaker 1: who is everywhere tonight, He's on the he's on the
Speaker 1: TV set, he's on he's on the innerwebs. He's everywhere.
Speaker 1: It's amazing and and a great job on TV. I'm
Speaker 1: really starting to enjoy that TV part. You're good at it.
Speaker 1: I really, I kind of really like it. You just
Speaker 1: stand there and talk like three times of games. Got
Speaker 1: the bug? It's got the bug. It's too bad that
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an old Hollywood like the olds don't do
Speaker 1: well on TV. Like Lester Bangs said, you got starry eyes,
Speaker 1: my friend, it's gonna be Matt, like Matt Laurie's gonna
Speaker 1: have that button in his desk to lock the door.
Speaker 1: Oh Matt, who Matt lower. You have to learn how
Speaker 1: to speak for you know, there's a lot of by
Speaker 1: the way, there's a lot of things you can make
Speaker 1: fun like do you have to call me like a
Speaker 1: sexual predator? Is it? Is it Viscano or Visciano? Is
Speaker 1: it Viscano? I think yeah, because O you know the
Speaker 1: PA guy was they didn't have the pan. It's not
Speaker 1: on there. I was operating with. I was operating with
Speaker 1: the belief I wouldn't have to learn his name. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I think I think you're right about that, after he
Speaker 1: missed his boat as badly as you can from fifty
Speaker 1: three yards. Yeah, this Guano and I do that same
Speaker 1: name is reasonably common in Major League Baseball, and that's
Speaker 1: how they right. Who is the famous one? Jose Jose
Speaker 1: Viscano be a good show for Eric. Oh god, he would,
Speaker 1: he would so correct my Sorry Eric, Robin Melbourne, Austria,
Speaker 1: He says, with Bourne's bad camp and some of the
Speaker 1: younger receivers flashing, could Burn be cut or traded before
Speaker 1: this season? Cheers rule nothing out except for the the
Speaker 1: young receivers like pushing him off the like that it's
Speaker 1: not a case his job. Something is happening with him
Speaker 1: that he's putting his own status on the team in jeopardy.
Speaker 1: I would agree with that. I don't. I don't argue that.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I rule nothing out with Bill, but
Speaker 1: he's not gonna let that. That has got this This
Speaker 1: Trey Nixon is really pushing Kendrick Borne off the roster
Speaker 1: or little Jordan Huntley tonight. I just no, those guys
Speaker 1: are clearly a notch below. Yeah, it's I mean, it's Thornton.
Speaker 1: I mean it seems like they want to play a
Speaker 1: lot of two tight ends too. I mean that seems
Speaker 1: more like it's going to be more in the plan. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't have five wide receivers two top
Speaker 1: tight ends. I mean, they're just not so. When Bill
Speaker 1: says pretty much everyone's going to be available, is that
Speaker 1: include Hunter Henry? I mean I would hope so, I
Speaker 1: would think. I mean, I mean, based on what I
Speaker 1: think Jeff Howard reported, it sounded like it's uh could
Speaker 1: be anything from a twisted ankle to a twenty ACL.
Speaker 1: He's expected to be back sometime between tomorrow and the
Speaker 1: end of his life. Right. Uh. Here's an interesting one, Um,
Speaker 1: when is part of the problem? This is from Todd
Speaker 1: and Greenville, North Carolina. Todd, I think that Mac is
Speaker 1: too focused looking for where the pressure is coming from.
Speaker 1: When is part of the problem, because I'm not sure
Speaker 1: his body can handle it anymore. I don't know when
Speaker 1: hasn't been out there for a while. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say where he's not part of the problem tonight. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm his streak of absolutely baffling me, but just I mean,
Speaker 1: I would say generally, I don't think Mac looks, you know, comfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if that means you guys are kind
Speaker 1: of convincing me that maybe he does need more, um
Speaker 1: more reps in game action, because maybe that's I just
Speaker 1: don't know if it's though, Like I mean, it sounds
Speaker 1: great in theory, but I just I don't I'm stuck
Speaker 1: wondering what does season really mean? When you know, when
Speaker 1: you've got when you've got the red jersey on you
Speaker 1: and you know you can't be hit, that has to
Speaker 1: be a different feeling than when you know you could
Speaker 1: get leveled for sure, you know, because I was thinking
Speaker 1: that he'll play maybe a similar amount next week that
Speaker 1: he did this week, you know, like fifteen twenty snaps
Speaker 1: and what do you have sixteen tonight? We figured out
Speaker 1: two three and out and play touchdown. Yeah, so, um,
Speaker 1: I mean if he came in and it looked pretty good,
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't really care if he played the same
Speaker 1: amount of snaps but the same drives, you know, but
Speaker 1: he played better and they moved They just moved the
Speaker 1: ball a little bit more consistently, even if even if
Speaker 1: it flamed out. I mean I might feel, you know,
Speaker 1: slightly better about that. But the offensive line, would you know,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna make fun of me. I'm opening the
Speaker 1: door for you to take a shot at me. But
Speaker 1: I would feel better if like Trent Brown and you know,
Speaker 1: was out there, um, and you don't have a win,
Speaker 1: you play and tackle right. I mean I worried me
Speaker 1: a little bit tonight with him back there. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: wanted to coming out as night off, the night off,
Speaker 1: they had the night off. You want me, you know,
Speaker 1: I ask him to come in his night it off.
Speaker 1: I don't in the union, you know gets he gets
Speaker 1: this day off. I don't understand his birthday. I don't
Speaker 1: understand it. I don't buy it. Like I believe that
Speaker 1: someone Karen is the best in the business. He's a
Speaker 1: tremendous reporter. I believe that someone told her something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that he just got the night off.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that's accurate information from whoever told me.
Speaker 1: When you first said it, I thought would really be
Speaker 1: safe with him, because you're already limited on the tackle
Speaker 1: depth and you lose him and now you're really screwed.
Speaker 1: But still we could tell your stories, Fred, and I
Speaker 1: believe me, we can tell your stories. Going back of
Speaker 1: how adamant he is about having everybody part. You know,
Speaker 1: everybody needs to prepare as if they're playing in the game.
Speaker 1: That's his basic rule of thumb, right. And there was
Speaker 1: one year, and it was a million years ago where
Speaker 1: there was about twenty guys on the sideline wearing their
Speaker 1: game jerseys but not in uniform, and it was like
Speaker 1: a cocktail party. Was a real bad look and it
Speaker 1: was a bad and he never did it. Was not
Speaker 1: happy and they've never done it again. Yeah, Dan Campbell
Speaker 1: doesn't like that either. I watched which I was laughing
Speaker 1: because he was getting a lot of static for it.
Speaker 1: I was like, Bill feels exactly the same way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought that butt was funny. And yeah, the latest episode, well,
Speaker 1: a lot of people have compared Dan Campbell to Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: and I think they're right to do that. Well, I
Speaker 1: know when you're very excited about did you watch I
Speaker 1: haven't watched the I heard that. I heard the most
Speaker 1: recent episode is not as good as the first one. No, no,
Speaker 1: but that Amon Ross Saint Brown, remember him the receiver.
Speaker 1: He rattled off like the psycho taken ahead of him.
Speaker 1: And you meet his dad too, as a former mister Olympius.
Speaker 1: I mean, and he's just like talking about how serious
Speaker 1: his kids are about Tibar show, uh lifting weights, you know,
Speaker 1: and they're all lifting weights and you know, and he's like,
Speaker 1: look at them, they ain't talking, they're serious, like like
Speaker 1: they're just obsessed, right like ten year old. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe even now they're still like it. But he's, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's an intense guy. It's good. I'm enjoying it. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Kakar and Jacksonville. What's going on? Hey, I
Speaker 1: just had a quick question about what the process and
Speaker 1: I'm sticking tired of hearing Bill talk about the process.
Speaker 1: I was just wondering what your guys thoughts are on
Speaker 1: what this offensive game plan is. It's the new buzzword
Speaker 1: for Training Camp twenty twenty two. Process. I mean that
Speaker 1: you can't possibly expect us to know what the process
Speaker 1: is to you? Well, no, but don't put words in
Speaker 1: the coach's mouth either. I mean it's that there's that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of dancing around, a lot of great question.
Speaker 1: I just don't have an answer. Yeah, because they're gonna
Speaker 1: get him one of these days. It looks like Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia will be the one communicating with the quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: as to what he's communicating, maybe it comes from Bill.
Speaker 1: Perhaps at times, what's the name of that place that
Speaker 1: you want to go to, the Mexican place, Roberto Robertos.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's giving his Roberto Roberto's out of order to
Speaker 1: Somebody asked a good question tonight that I didn't know
Speaker 1: the answer to. Who is now Bill's Ernie Adams up
Speaker 1: in the booth? Is it Matt Grow? Like, who's the
Speaker 1: person up there? I think Matt Grows probably guess I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess Evan Rothstein. No, Yeah, that's not you're right,
Speaker 1: that's his name. You're right, that right, you're right. But
Speaker 1: that's a big jump. I mean, can you imagine going
Speaker 1: from Ernie Adams and Matt Patricia, two guys that you've
Speaker 1: known for a long time, and now you got some
Speaker 1: kid from Detroit who's been here two years and he's
Speaker 1: the one like, Yeah, I just think he's more of
Speaker 1: an analytical kind of guy, and he might be good
Speaker 1: with and and and I mean it's time it's worth
Speaker 1: pointing out. When they all got COVID in Detroit, he
Speaker 1: like snapping, who is this shut up by the way
Speaker 1: great challenge by Bill tonight. That was that was that
Speaker 1: was That was a really close one. I thought, I
Speaker 1: thought live it was a fumble, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was a good overturn. What don't you guys think? I
Speaker 1: saw him going great. I saw him going for the
Speaker 1: sock and I was like, Oh, it's happening, It's happening.
Speaker 1: And then I just was laughing to imagine him every
Speaker 1: pregame going through that process of having a stuff that
Speaker 1: thing into his sock, Like that has to be part
Speaker 1: of his pregame routine that he gets the flag. That's like,
Speaker 1: that thing's gotta be night tonight, it's another one that
Speaker 1: bucks me. That thing's got to be in your pocket
Speaker 1: like anybody else, and it's gotta be gamy coming out
Speaker 1: of the game, almost like annoying. You ever had something
Speaker 1: in your sock for a whole game? I don't. As
Speaker 1: a kid, I remember like we brought our bikes up
Speaker 1: to the convenience store and you would stick like you know,
Speaker 1: your your dollar, your money and into the sock and
Speaker 1: with a with a back in my day, get a quarter.
Speaker 1: With a dollar, you could get yourself a can of
Speaker 1: soda pop and a candy bar. But you know you
Speaker 1: had to fold up that dollar and put it in there.
Speaker 1: Sweaty it would get but it really got bad when
Speaker 1: you got the change. Oh yeah. And then as you
Speaker 1: go down into the had good socks you could probably
Speaker 1: keep like a dollar fifty up high in your sock
Speaker 1: once you stuck getting your socks a little stretched out.
Speaker 1: Now the change is down around your toes somewhere. It's
Speaker 1: just not it's not what we're looking for. Dollar fifty
Speaker 1: rich kid over to get around. I had a paper round. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, I worked for that money. I understand. Who's
Speaker 1: the guy up in the booth? Who is it? Ros?
Speaker 1: We don't know. We're sort of guessing him. A guy
Speaker 1: named Evan. You should know him from Detroit. He was
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinate, I thought in the famous game against
Speaker 1: Tampa when Sam Rothstein, who is the food beverage manager,
Speaker 1: They kept changing his title, so you moved the application
Speaker 1: back down to the bottom of the pile. They guy's
Speaker 1: working there ten years. They don't have a license about Vegas?
Speaker 1: How Vegas, baby? How about the quarterback from tonight mac Well,
Speaker 1: I say, the quarterback, the guy who got the start
Speaker 1: and got a what a series and three change three
Speaker 1: series total. All right, did not play um the entire
Speaker 1: first half, but it was it was enough for him
Speaker 1: to go out there and do a little something something,
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, let's hear from him in his post game
Speaker 1: right now, that third drive for you to come out
Speaker 1: of here feeling on in a good spot. Yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit of a rocky star, but
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it goes when you haven't played
Speaker 1: for a little bit and you just got to continue
Speaker 1: to play. And you know, the guys on our team,
Speaker 1: we came together, kind of operated, didn't freak out or anything,
Speaker 1: just carry on and get our mojo back and keep
Speaker 1: everything going forward. So it was a good drive. And
Speaker 1: you know, the game is sixty minutes, and right now
Speaker 1: a lot of the younger guys are getting a chance
Speaker 1: to play, which is great. So we understand how long
Speaker 1: a sixty minute game is. And I think that was
Speaker 1: a good learning lesson of all right, let's keep playing here,
Speaker 1: and you know, when we get into the season, we'll
Speaker 1: have a lot of chances to play those games out
Speaker 1: and continue to grow. Whether it was a good first
Speaker 1: drive or not, Mac, what have you noticed is the
Speaker 1: biggest difference between playing as a rookie and entering a
Speaker 1: game as someone with a year under their belt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you know, as a rookie, you're out there
Speaker 1: just trying to do your job and play your role
Speaker 1: and kind of just do exactly what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 1: And now with a little bit of freedom and a
Speaker 1: little bit of more experience, is obviously good. But at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's football, and it's the
Speaker 1: same game that we've all been playing since we were little,
Speaker 1: and it was just good to get back out there.
Speaker 1: And I know it's a long season ahead, so it
Speaker 1: was good to get the feet wet again and continue
Speaker 1: to grow from that. Mac You're scoring drive one across
Speaker 1: the end of the first and into the early in
Speaker 1: the second quarter. Was the original plan for you just
Speaker 1: to play the first quarter and then sit out the
Speaker 1: rest of the game. Or did Bill and Matt talk
Speaker 1: to you and say, we want you to finish this ulf,
Speaker 1: we want you to score on this drive. Um, there
Speaker 1: wasn't any like timetable or anything. I just knew I
Speaker 1: was going to get a chance to play, so I
Speaker 1: just went out there and did that. And like I said,
Speaker 1: it's it's a preseason, so we want to get a
Speaker 1: lot of players looks and stuff. And you know, I
Speaker 1: got a chance to go out there and work with
Speaker 1: the offense and kind of get everybody on the same
Speaker 1: page here, and that's what it's all about. Can you
Speaker 1: take us through the past play with Nelson? You guys
Speaker 1: have obviously hit a few of those in practice, and
Speaker 1: you know how nice does it feel to hit it
Speaker 1: in the game? Yeah, it was good. I think it
Speaker 1: was a good play call and he went up and
Speaker 1: made a good play and I had plenty of time
Speaker 1: to throw it, and you know by that time, we're
Speaker 1: you know, moving the ball a little bit. So that
Speaker 1: was a good explosive play for a touchdown and drive
Speaker 1: and that's important for you know, putting points on the board.
Speaker 1: So it was a good catch too make along the
Speaker 1: line of the question that was just dashed about the
Speaker 1: continuing drive between the first quarter and the second quarter.
Speaker 1: At the end of the first quarter, I noticed you
Speaker 1: go buy the bench, not to talk to anybody, and
Speaker 1: grab a ball start working out. Was that in New
Speaker 1: York mind, you didn't want to talk talk to anybody
Speaker 1: about coming out. You wanted to stay in. You just
Speaker 1: didn't feel we wanted to talk in order to make
Speaker 1: sure you stayed in. Oh, I have no idea. I
Speaker 1: just I knew I was going in. You know, they
Speaker 1: didn't tell me I was out yet. So I just
Speaker 1: always do that before any drive, throw a couple of
Speaker 1: passes five or six, and then when I feel good,
Speaker 1: I know I'm ready for the next drive. So I've
Speaker 1: done that since I was five years old, and I'll
Speaker 1: continue to do that. Mac. Oh, I have a question
Speaker 1: about the scramble play before the touchdown UM in the
Speaker 1: second quarter. Was that designed play or if not, what
Speaker 1: did you see that you know set you off? Um? No,
Speaker 1: it was not designed. It was just a pass play,
Speaker 1: and yeah there's people open, but they played very soft
Speaker 1: off So I just kind of found my way and
Speaker 1: got positive yards and got down. Mac. It seemed like
Speaker 1: last week. There's a picture in your locker from that
Speaker 1: Bill's playoff game at the end of last season. When
Speaker 1: you see that, when you see that photo every day
Speaker 1: coming into the facility, what does that do for you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always been a big fan of like having motivation
Speaker 1: stuff in your locker. Um, and my dad, actually, the
Speaker 1: two things that he's always showed me is the poem
Speaker 1: Man in the Arena and If by Roger Kipling, So
Speaker 1: those are the two that are more important to me.
Speaker 1: But um, I've always done that, and you know that's
Speaker 1: last year. But I think it's motivation to just come
Speaker 1: in here and work every day. And I do love
Speaker 1: the two poems a lot. So that that's a big
Speaker 1: shot out to my dad because he kind of gave
Speaker 1: me those when I was probably like six years old
Speaker 1: and kind of explained everything to me, and then as
Speaker 1: I grew I continue to just enjoy that. Actually, the
Speaker 1: IF poem is in Wimbledon, so that's where he learned
Speaker 1: about it, in the locker room in Wimbledon, So it's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Man. It seems like the offense has made
Speaker 1: progress in terms of just communication with each other on
Speaker 1: the field. How would you characterize the press the communication
Speaker 1: tonight in the game set? Yeah, it was good. I think,
Speaker 1: just kind of a different perspective in the preseason. Obviously
Speaker 1: not playing every snap, so it's cool to see the
Speaker 1: game from a different perspective and listening to the coaches
Speaker 1: and help the young guys. You know, I like to
Speaker 1: let them play and do their thing because that's how
Speaker 1: I kind of like to be too is just go
Speaker 1: out there and play and then save the tape for
Speaker 1: the game film, you know, the next day or whatever.
Speaker 1: But I can always give tips. And the communication between
Speaker 1: the coach and assistant coaches was great. I think that
Speaker 1: is something that we've made a lot of progress in
Speaker 1: just positive next play mentality, you know, versus maybe dwelling
Speaker 1: a little bit mac first game where you have matt
Speaker 1: Patricia in your year cong plays, Joe Judge helping out
Speaker 1: an offense with in game action. How is that having
Speaker 1: them kind of coach you up and how excited did
Speaker 1: that just get you for the regular season? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think Mattie's done a great job. He's one of the
Speaker 1: most brilliant people I've ever been around in terms of
Speaker 1: football knowledge. So you know, between all the coaches we have,
Speaker 1: they've done a great job preparing us. And he's really
Speaker 1: starting in a feel forward and that's the thing is
Speaker 1: just growing each week and making sure that we can stack,
Speaker 1: you know, good days together. And he's very easy to
Speaker 1: talk to you on the sideline, very easy, laid back
Speaker 1: kind of type coach, but demands a lot and I
Speaker 1: respect that about him and hopefully we can grow for
Speaker 1: for a long time working with Little Jordan Huntrees since
Speaker 1: he came over a couple months ago. Yeah, I think, um,
Speaker 1: Lj's a beast. And when he got signed here, I
Speaker 1: remember I texted him and asked him if he wanted
Speaker 1: to come catch and he immediately responded and found a
Speaker 1: way to make it out to where we were and
Speaker 1: came to our throwing sessions. So he's a grinder. He's
Speaker 1: a big dude. He's great on special teams too, So
Speaker 1: we have great receivers and um, it's great to see
Speaker 1: them all get a chance to catch the ball and run.
Speaker 1: And he's a big body type receiver and that's a
Speaker 1: good addition for us. Cool. Thanks, See guys, all right,
Speaker 1: there's Mac Jones who does not sound healthy. He's yeah,
Speaker 1: he's sick. Why didn't any want to ask him that?
Speaker 1: I thought he sounded like he was a little onto
Speaker 1: the weather sound. That's why now you don't need to
Speaker 1: have him played next week? Right right? So that's actually
Speaker 1: good news. Also good news that Matt Patricia, who we
Speaker 1: knew as a billion football mine, according to Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: get a real feel for the play calling. That's good.
Speaker 1: It's Kenny, this is the this is the type of
Speaker 1: job together. Listen, listen, coming together. This is the type
Speaker 1: of job on the type of team where you just
Speaker 1: kind of learn as you go. You don't need to
Speaker 1: come in knowing how to do the job. You can
Speaker 1: kind of you know, you know, learn while you're doing it.
Speaker 1: He's getting a real feel for calling the plays. That's
Speaker 1: I think that's great. Yeah, I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, you know, like your music show,
Speaker 1: you've gotten better as you you've done it. I'm getting
Speaker 1: a feel for it. After thirty years, I am, I'm
Speaker 1: starting to say who the artist is and what the
Speaker 1: song is, Yes and done. More than that, he gives
Speaker 1: you a little background behind the music vhe you know, joking,
Speaker 1: joking aside, though, I would be curious really how what
Speaker 1: the difference is calling defensive plays first offensive place just
Speaker 1: you know, like that the you know, I hate what's
Speaker 1: your frame of mind? What's your frame of mind? But
Speaker 1: what is the frame line when? Whereas in an offense
Speaker 1: you're you know, kind of kind of being active. Well,
Speaker 1: when you have defense set offensively, you're thinking about what
Speaker 1: are we trying to do? Defensively, you're trying to think
Speaker 1: what are they going to try to do. How do
Speaker 1: I counter it? It's just a different frame of mind.
Speaker 1: I would be curious, just curious. She's curious, just curious,
Speaker 1: just curious. What's your frame of mind? Talk about your
Speaker 1: frame of mind? That would that would be the three
Speaker 1: talk about it that. I'm just curious, talk about your
Speaker 1: frame of mind. Boom, let me tell you something. There's
Speaker 1: a little something too there, he said. I'm hoping that
Speaker 1: we can grow, you know, together for a long time.
Speaker 1: Get used to this idea. Matt Patricia in an important
Speaker 1: role on the coaching staff of the New England Patriots. Oh,
Speaker 1: he does have one of the best calls, one of
Speaker 1: the most famous calls in Super Bowl. Here. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you want to set up for that, You want to
Speaker 1: set up long term. You want to think about, you know,
Speaker 1: what's going to be happening here for several years, maybe
Speaker 1: even beyond. Belichick. Mac Jones just gave you a little,
Speaker 1: a little preview for a long time. And they make
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year, You'll be like, yeah, great, well,
Speaker 1: hope he's going to get a much better field for
Speaker 1: it as he goes, am, I the only one that,
Speaker 1: thanks Bill Belichick, is doing all this stuff. What do
Speaker 1: you mean doing like everything offensively? I think it's all Bill,
Speaker 1: You think that that's why he's telling you, Like, No,
Speaker 1: that's not the way it works. And no, that's it's
Speaker 1: no like I'm telling them what to call. Yeah, they're
Speaker 1: calling the play into the communication system, but I'm telling
Speaker 1: them what to call. I think at the very least,
Speaker 1: it's like a hand holding situation like that. Well, if,
Speaker 1: and I gotta be honest, I'll be consistent about this.
Speaker 1: Given the three options, that's by far the one I
Speaker 1: like the most. Bill, he's the best coach. But is it?
Speaker 1: So what would the problem be? Because he's been asked
Speaker 1: several times now, well what is the process? And one
Speaker 1: of the times he answerly goes, we don't have enough time.
Speaker 1: We don't have the time. Tell you what the process is.
Speaker 1: What if the process were as simple as what you
Speaker 1: just said, Paul, I come up with the play, I
Speaker 1: tell Matt, Matt calls it into the quarterback. What what?
Speaker 1: Why is? Why would that take so long? That it
Speaker 1: takes too long? So that's a good process. So you're
Speaker 1: saying that Paul is incorrect. That's not if that's what
Speaker 1: they're doing, And if that's what the plan is, then
Speaker 1: you might as well just have Bill do it, you know. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think it might be something in terms
Speaker 1: of like for this, but that they've pre planned for all.
Speaker 1: I know, Well, it's probably I mean maybe for now.
Speaker 1: Bill has got the training wheels on, Patricia. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be like that every day. Yeah, and then by the
Speaker 1: time September eleventh, he takes the training wheels off and
Speaker 1: he only has input at certain points in the game steps. Process. Yeah, okay, process,
Speaker 1: that's part of the process. That's part of the process.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna process what has happened here for
Speaker 1: thirty seconds and we'll come back to wrap up the
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Speaker 1: radio at Patriots dot com. He was tipping his hand, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. He had to tell like he was like
Speaker 1: he was live from our studios inside Gallette Stadium. Here's hardy.
Speaker 1: So decided he use that phrase, I'm the child in
Speaker 1: the background. All right, are you guys gonna work on
Speaker 1: your tails before you go to Las Vegas? You're gonna
Speaker 1: sit in a live poker room. You know, maybe you
Speaker 1: gotta work on your tail. So when you take the
Speaker 1: oreo apart, right, don't what are you doing? I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even bring the orioles to be on the safe side.
Speaker 1: Teddy Teddy kgb Teddy kg when he had a good hand,
Speaker 1: and he didn't eat it when he had I'm a
Speaker 1: terrible liar, so I'm sure I have a hundred No
Speaker 1: juice is like he comes across as like all American, Dad,
Speaker 1: But we'll find out in Las Vegas. Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: like the like shady glasses on four in the morning.
Speaker 1: But that private poker area where people have just been
Speaker 1: they don't even know what time of day it is,
Speaker 1: right when they're just there like the whole time, and
Speaker 1: yeah it's Tuesday. Now you have to leave. We have practice,
Speaker 1: you have to cover practice, and you're here. I'll meet
Speaker 1: you there some alone. How many people from the from
Speaker 1: the staff are going on the trip like that you
Speaker 1: would consider part of your crew? Fred? How many thirteen?
Speaker 1: How many do you think are going to have I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, like, you know, a gambling problem when they
Speaker 1: come out, not anything that's going to pick them a
Speaker 1: long term, but are going to have a moment at
Speaker 1: some point in Vegas that will be defined as a
Speaker 1: Vegas moment. I told them if they do, do not
Speaker 1: say you work for the New England Patriots. Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But do you have a couple of people singled out
Speaker 1: where you said I bet he's going to have a night. No,
Speaker 1: I have all. It's kind of the opposite. I have
Speaker 1: all very uh you know, yeah, straight laced, responsible, Yeah,
Speaker 1: young people. I think it's gonna be deuced induced. I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be deuced last time I was on
Speaker 1: the road with Duce singing karaoke with me and Marine Corps.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be Matt Smith that I could
Speaker 1: see that. I would understand Uncle Matt likes uh like,
Speaker 1: likes to go out and have a good time. Well, well,
Speaker 1: I've been to Vegas. I just if there's any younger
Speaker 1: people coming that have never been to Vegas that are
Speaker 1: gonna want to go and get the Vegas of it all,
Speaker 1: I think that they should experience it. I think you
Speaker 1: should go out at night and check out some of
Speaker 1: the properties as they say, out out there. Well, Tamaris
Speaker 1: said she went out there like once a month for
Speaker 1: a long time. She was out there working, like to
Speaker 1: the point where she's just like tired of it, like
Speaker 1: over it, and it is. It's it's exhausting being there,
Speaker 1: it truly it is. You guys are going to come
Speaker 1: back with you can't like if you're you can't do
Speaker 1: more than a couple of days there. No, that's well,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, this is my my plan. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the Red Eye Wednesday night, come in Thursday,
Speaker 1: morning to do like a pu probably come in just
Speaker 1: for that because I'll be exhaust it. But then Friday night,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to the next night, have to do
Speaker 1: this show. But you're not going to be here anyway, right,
Speaker 1: so you won't have to deal with me. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have Christian Arcan Christian king In. Yeah, that's right. That
Speaker 1: are pretty good. It is. It's not bad. It's it's
Speaker 1: an undefinable accent that he's Chicago. Yeah, but he's from
Speaker 1: I know, I know, but he admits that. Other people
Speaker 1: have said that they think he's from I think about that.
Speaker 1: When I was watching them today, I thought you did
Speaker 1: a pretty good arc in. That sounds like, yeah, you guys,
Speaker 1: try and figure that out next week when when the
Speaker 1: Patriots will still be in Las Vegas, you guys will
Speaker 1: be back here for the third and final preseason game,
Speaker 1: which is like what game in the year's past? The
Speaker 1: game to another two? Do you agree with that? Ass?
Speaker 1: That was how he explained it. No, I'm saying, do
Speaker 1: you agree with it? Do you concur I really don't know.
Speaker 1: You should have. I'd like it to be a three.
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a two. I think I
Speaker 1: concur I would I would love for it to be
Speaker 1: a three. Yeah, but I think it's going to be
Speaker 1: another because the reason why is because of the joints,
Speaker 1: right right, If they didn't have joint practices, I think
Speaker 1: this three would be a three. Do you know the
Speaker 1: difference between a joint and a blunt and a spliff?
Speaker 1: I heard a little and talk today. I didn't know
Speaker 1: what a blunt was. I had to I had to
Speaker 1: have it explained to me. And and I'm I don't
Speaker 1: know if he did blunt rolled cigarette? Oh? It rolled
Speaker 1: cigar joint? Spliff is a mixed tobacco and weed, is it? Not?
Speaker 1: Like and the gentleman? That's what he means. He makes
Speaker 1: himself a nice fifty fifty mix? Now is it? It's
Speaker 1: a spliff slif? Yeah, I don't know why I thought
Speaker 1: it was screezed blief? You want pronounced now? Now? Was
Speaker 1: I understand it? Matthew? Um, it's pronounced spliff? That is
Speaker 1: that correct? Yeah? No, I did. I learned a little
Speaker 1: something today listening to Hardy and our cans. But the
Speaker 1: blood is marijuana pot dope as as you would as
Speaker 1: you would acquire and enjoy it. But the blunt itself
Speaker 1: is actually just the role? Is that correct? It different
Speaker 1: into What about the chronic? Are you chronics? The type
Speaker 1: of marijuana? I mean, I lived in California? What about
Speaker 1: the white window? What is that? Now? Okay, we go,
Speaker 1: we gotta shoot the postgame. This is the best part.
Speaker 1: This is what people stay up for. The guy in UK,
Speaker 1: he's still listening. It's six o'clock in the morning. What
Speaker 1: are here to provide a service? What is the stickiest
Speaker 1: of the key? I need to know? What about the chronic?
Speaker 1: What kind of papers do you use? I'll just I'll
Speaker 1: just a quick thing before we go there. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: video I lost the videos from the video from practice
Speaker 1: is up. The hit is up. The all twenty two
Speaker 1: you get laid out. It looks like a dirty hit
Speaker 1: to me. It's kind of hard to see. I'll show
Speaker 1: it to you guys when we get off. But it's
Speaker 1: but it's on there. Um. Somebody must have somehow leaked
Speaker 1: the film of it. But I've watched it a couple
Speaker 1: of times. It looks so Why was the Patriots have
Speaker 1: gone to such great lights to say it wasn't a
Speaker 1: dirty hit? I don't know. You can watch it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I I to me, it looks like he
Speaker 1: just kind of goes in on the side and hits
Speaker 1: him right in the head on purpose. Very. It's very
Speaker 1: it's very I think you should wrap up the final
Speaker 1: show for the final time. Okay, a final score for
Speaker 1: the final time. Panthers ten, Patriots twenty and uh, you
Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your week. Everyone, enjoy your time
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas. Uh. We've lost Paul for the rest
Speaker 1: of the show, but that's okay because the show's pretty
Speaker 1: much over. Frank. Thank you, Deuce, Thank you Morrel Lapan, everybody.
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