WEBVTT - Patriots Postgame Show 8/19: Analyzing the Win over the Panthers 0:00:01.800 --> 0:00:05.840 This is the Patriots Postgame Show presented by Cyber Reasons. 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:08.840 Brady dropped back of the playface. He's pressured, he's wrapped up, 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:14.400 He's shacked jud How's another for the Patriots twenty eight? 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:18.239 Turn that man loose? The Patriots Postgame Show presented by 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:21.960 Cyber Reason with Hardy, Mike Disow, Paul Parrillo is your 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:25.560 source for all the news and information following every Patriots 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.080 game chapter stap to Matt Johns, Pure to the end, 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.920 Doot caught at the call on HiT's a touchdown on 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:34.440 the Hunter. 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So who 0:01:20.720 --> 0:01:23.280 had the overrunder of the Patriots game being less than 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.280 the overrunder of the Red Sox game anybody, which, by 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.880 the way, for anybody who's complaining, I don't know none 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:32.040 of us complaining about the length of game and the 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.040 time it took to play. Are they in the seventh 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.560 inning yet? In the seventh seventh inning now? And they 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:42.120 started at the same time the Patriots did, and the 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:44.920 Patriots game was kind of long tonight. Yeah, it was 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:49.240 so uh yeah, that was that was something We're gonna 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:50.960 get to all of it. Just opening thoughts, Mike, do 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:53.240 so before we get to our good badly injured. I 0:01:53.240 --> 0:01:54.560 think it was more of the same way we've seen 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:57.120 in this summer. The offense made a nice play and 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:59.480 other but otherwise, I mean, I'm talking the first team 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:02.800 offense of course, didn't really do much, couldn't really string 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.800 anything together in the three drives that they were together. 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.440 I thought the defense was similar, did the same thing 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:09.400 they've been doing the summer. They were disruptive. If they 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.880 were you know on PJ. Walker immediately they got their 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:13.680 hands on a bunch of balls, they forced a fumble. 0:02:14.320 --> 0:02:16.440 So I like all that stuff from the defense thoughts. 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.160 Some young guys stepped up, but you know, overall, I 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:22.000 think you're not really I didn't really see much out 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.200 of the offense tonight. I found that that the headline 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.680 disappointing to three and outs to start the game was 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:29.640 just y and I'm just gonna echo before we go 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:31.359 to Paul, that's the same thing. You know, you want 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:35.040 to see the Patriots come out offensively tonight and do 0:02:35.240 --> 0:02:37.880 something right away, and instead the three and outs to 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.680 start the game. Then they doubled down on that, and 0:02:41.360 --> 0:02:44.520 you know what, whatever flow we were hoping for didn't 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.760 really come in any And you know, in a game 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.160 with very little meaningful time and very meaning you know, 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.880 very little in terms of, you know, the drives that 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.640 you can look at her series of plays that would 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.000 have some meaning in those moments. The Patriots did not deliver. 0:02:58.080 --> 0:03:01.160 They got the win, for what that's worth, but nothing. 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:03.800 You know, the times you really had the microscope on 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.520 you and you're really looking at it, they came up short. Yeah, 0:03:06.600 --> 0:03:10.160 I mean, I I would agree with Mike. I think 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:13.720 that the offense and what's this one tonight. Let's like 0:03:14.040 --> 0:03:16.560 Mac was off, you know, those first couple of drives. 0:03:16.560 --> 0:03:19.040 I thought they had passes to complete. He had a 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:22.000 slant that was behind Parker. Parker probably should have caught it, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.520 but it was a bad throw. He had one that 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:29.000 he sailed high over. Jacoby Myers just kind of looked unsettled, 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:31.720 you know, seeing some of the highlights now, I just 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:35.120 looked a little unsettled. Early in the game, they were 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.240 able to get the first down. I think he picked 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:39.560 up a third down that was able to move the 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.080 chains and that seemed to settle him down. And then 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:46.160 pick like an absolutely perfect deep ball to Nelson Agalore, 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.240 which you know, was the really the highlight of the 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.760 game in my opinion, certainly offensively, but it was the 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:55.120 one highlight of the game offensively, you know, for the 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.160 for the Patriots all night. And that led to the 0:03:58.160 --> 0:04:01.720 touchdown drive, nine play drive. You gotta think Bill was like, 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:03.400 all right, guys, I need you to get fifteen to 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.160 twenty plays. We can't be going three and out. You 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.160 guys gonna be in, you know, and then they put 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.080 together that nine play touchdown drive Ty Montgomery a couple 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.760 of plays there toward the end. He finishes it off 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.640 with a short touchdown run and you know, shake some hands, 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.160 put some baseball hats on and get to the sideline 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:24.200 rights it. Yeah. Um so, Paul, defensively, I thought they flashed, 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:26.440 but you know that's all with a grain of salt 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.599 based they played against when we get to the good 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.200 is one of my first goods of the game, and 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:32.400 you know, one of the few, so I guess we 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.120 can do that. But yeah, it was. It was a 0:04:34.240 --> 0:04:36.799 night when we had our you know, our peepers peeled 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.640 for the first team offense to see what they could 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:40.640 get going. And I think you summed it up, Paul, 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.520 aside from the you know, the long completion to Aggalore, 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.320 um and you know Mac Jones going what was a 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:51.080 four four for eight for sixty one yards on one 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.919 pass too gorgeous, gorgeous play like. And we've seen that 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.359 a little bit like I would say, we've seen it 0:04:57.400 --> 0:04:59.919 a little bit more frequently the last I don't know 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.520 four or five days that we got to watch um. 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:04.880 But what I liked about that is that's not a 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.560 fifty fifty ball. That's what I'm not going to just 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.000 throw the ball up and see if my guy can 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.880 make a play for me. That's my guys running down 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:14.240 the sideline. He's covered by their guy, and I'm going 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:15.960 to throw it a spot where my guy can get it. 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:21.400 That was that was offense, like not like flukey. That's 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:23.000 how you want to that's how you draw it up. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:25.360 That's the play was beautiful. And again, I know I've 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:28.360 been saying this all all summer. So far, Nelson Agilore 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:32.000 has been their best receiver in camp. Yep. It's just tantalizing. 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:34.320 They had these moments and not even you know, there 0:05:34.320 --> 0:05:36.039 have been something like this with Agilore, but you know, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:38.960 even some of the contested catch with Parker. It's just 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:41.359 you know, so you see these plays happen. So it's like, 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:42.760 I know you guys have it in you, but it 0:05:42.800 --> 0:05:47.120 just seems like the in rhythm drive can drive starters, 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:49.560 you know, those kind of plays just they don't really exist. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:51.240 It's just it's hard for them to get a rhythm 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.440 right now. It's hard for them. I haven't yet to 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:56.080 see all summer for them to get in him a 0:05:56.160 --> 0:05:58.760 rhythm and roll off play after play, and you feel 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:01.440 like things are clicking. It's just it's it's so sporadic. Still. 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:03.480 All right, let's get to the good the bad knee injury. 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:06.680 Here we go. Now it's time for the good, pretty 0:06:06.680 --> 0:06:17.400 good sperathdayperthday, pretty good, the bad, and the injured eye. Ah, 0:06:17.520 --> 0:06:21.720 you are right, guy. The good the bad knee injury 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:23.480 brought to you by the good players, the bad players, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:26.880 and the injured players. We begin with Paul Parillo, who 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:30.000 is always a beacon of sunshine, giving us his first 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:33.760 good on the game. I'm gonna go with my first good. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.000 I'm gonna go with Nelson Agilore. I thought that he, Um, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:39.520 you know, the offense, as we said, was was struggling 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.919 a little bit, and he made I think the third 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:44.400 down catch too that gave him the first first down, UM, 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.480 and then obviously gets open deep and and comes up 0:06:47.520 --> 0:06:49.760 with a big play on the down the sideline forty 0:06:49.760 --> 0:06:52.040 five yards. You obviously didn't play a tremendous and I 0:06:52.080 --> 0:06:55.919 think the offense played about fifteen plays, um, But I 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:57.560 thought he gave them a lift when he was out there. 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.360 Nelson Agilore continuing a strong summer. I mean, I don't 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.200 know how you're saying anything. Other than good. And as 0:07:03.400 --> 0:07:06.040 Deuce you said, you know, it's been their best receiver 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.440 throughout camp here and he showed it again tonight. Absolutely good. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.840 Before we go any further, let's bring in Josh Ouch 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:17.400 joining us now here in the Patriots postgame show presented 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:20.960 by Cyber Reason. Josh, congratulations, big win twenty to ten. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:25.040 You gotta be happy about that. Definitely, Yeah, definitely a 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:28.080 great win for the Team'll come together. We're just execute. 0:07:28.120 --> 0:07:29.440 It's a great fill and then you know, we just 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.240 gotta build. Josh, you guys have just been all over 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.800 the offenses. You played this summer. You got a sack, 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:38.000 you picked up. You guys are just so disruptive, hands 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.640 on balls, getting in the quarterback's face. What's the energy 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:42.640 like right now on the defense where it just seems 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:44.320 like all you guys are just kind of taking turns 0:07:44.320 --> 0:07:48.240 getting after the quarterback. You know, we're just hungry, you know, 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.000 we're just hungry, and we're trying to go and do 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.720 what it is that we do best. And you know, however, 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:56.120 whatever it takes to you know, help the team win, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:57.840 and that's what we're trying to do. So we're just hungry. 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.720 You know, that's That's what it comes down to. Josh. 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:03.160 Early in the game, it looked like you were part 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:06.520 of a package. I think Christian Barmore was coming in 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.280 with you. Um, you know, whis and Judan already out there. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.280 You guys put a lot of pressure. Like Mike just said, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.160 back to back sacks. I looked like you got the 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.440 better of the rookie tackle a kun who Um, you know, 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:19.280 can you sort of run us through that play? And 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:23.840 and what what you what you saw? Yeah, I mean, 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:25.760 you know, the guys did a great job, you know 0:08:25.760 --> 0:08:28.480 for pressure from a quarterback collapse in the pocket, and 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.320 you know, I was just fortunate enough to finished. You know, 0:08:31.440 --> 0:08:34.920 the middle push definitely prevented a quarterback from stepping up. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:37.760 And yeah, you know, just working the fundamentals that we 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:40.679 work every day in practice, you know that coach Cousinton, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.200 you know, to possess and you know, just kind of 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.400 you know, falling back on the fundamental that's that's that's 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:47.960 kind of the result of that play. So yeah, they 0:08:48.000 --> 0:08:50.480 were almost plays in succession you mentioned earlier and and 0:08:50.640 --> 0:08:53.559 duced it too about you and Dietrich and Juwan all 0:08:53.559 --> 0:08:56.600 getting into the backfield and getting into the quarterback I got. 0:08:56.640 --> 0:08:58.920 I have to imagine you got to start feeding off 0:08:58.920 --> 0:09:01.439 each other and you kind of feel that that momentum 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.640 when when it's clicking for one of you, it seems 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:08.560 like it's clicking for you know, all of you. Yeah, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:11.640 we definitely, we all feed off each other's energy. You know. 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:14.079 D Wise got the shack, you know, I got it, 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:17.240 got one, Anthony got one, perk out one, Mitchell got one. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.480 Just name. You know, guys are feeding off each other, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.280 and you know it's just a great people guys, and 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:23.120 you just continue to you know, learn from each other. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:25.360 So I just want to ask you about Anthony real quick. 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.800 You guys came in together. He missed all the last year. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:30.360 Now he's back, you know, making an impact. But you 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:32.200 know what's it like for you to see him, you know, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.240 coming back in after missing the year and making an 0:09:34.240 --> 0:09:37.120 impact here in the summer. I mean, that's my manage. 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:42.120 He's right here next to me, like, yeah, just you know, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.320 you talked about it, and you know, to see it 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:46.360 comes to froguishing right now and not being out there 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.440 with my brother. It's just a great feeling, you know, 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.720 and it's like, you know, we're just going to continue 0:09:50.760 --> 0:09:52.439 to build on it and continue to grow and get 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:55.840 better to stake so well, you guys certainly showed it tonight. 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.480 And as we're talking about the game here, just starting 0:09:58.520 --> 0:10:00.480 the post game, we're gonna be talking a lot about 0:10:00.480 --> 0:10:03.840 the defense tonight and praising you guys for another another 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:05.800 great effort here in tonight. Thanks for the time, Josh, 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:09.080 were appreciate it. Awesome, Thank you, all right, Thank you 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.320 very much, Josh. There he goes, Josh, Uch there, I 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.920 got a chair up back there in that lock. I 0:10:14.000 --> 0:10:16.760 like it. That was. I mean, as as we're you know, 0:10:16.920 --> 0:10:18.600 going through the goods here, and we start off with 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:20.600 you know, Paul started us off with Aglare. I don't 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:22.439 want to steal your thunder dudes, but I gotta believe 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:25.040 you know, defense is, you know, among the first things 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.480 you mark down in the good category tonight. Yeah, for sure, Hardy, 0:10:28.679 --> 0:10:31.000 I'm gonna go with Jawan Bentley. Um, I just I 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:33.200 just love what he's bringing right now. And you know 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.920 you had some turnover at that position. I just felt 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:37.559 like he was all over the place, right out of 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.080 the gate, blowing up the screen, the tackle for loss. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.160 I just I just love what he's bringing to the defense. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:43.280 Right now. I don't know if he's going to be 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.680 an every down guy, but I just I thought he 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.400 kind of set the tone early on with some of 0:10:48.440 --> 0:10:50.719 his plays. So I got j One Bentley on their 0:10:51.120 --> 0:10:52.839 first for me. Yeah, I had him r at the 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.040 top of my list I did. I had I had 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.400 Bentley getting into the backfield on a play. And then 0:10:57.480 --> 0:11:00.920 as as Josh just said, you know, pretty much back 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.240 to back with with he and Dietrich Wise getting into 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:07.120 the backfield getting the sacks, and you do feel like 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:11.120 that's that is, you know, coming together as a unit. 0:11:11.160 --> 0:11:13.120 These guys are feeding off each other and they're they're 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:14.839 they're feeling a little bit which is great. And I 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.440 don't want to get too you know, excited about the summer, 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:19.880 you know, and we've I've gone down that road many 0:11:19.920 --> 0:11:21.800 times in the past and been burned by it. But 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:23.880 like so you get up a little bit of a drive, 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.080 you know. The Panthers made some plays they got in 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.160 field goal range and it's first and ten from like 0:11:28.200 --> 0:11:31.920 the thirty five family blows up a screen for for 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:34.120 a loss of four, and then it's back to back 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.480 sax by Wise and h O. Right, our guests that 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.800 we just spoke to and you know, suddenly the balls 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:42.440 at midfield and it's like fourth and thirty and they're 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.440 punting like you're not always going to force a three 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:48.160 and out. Sometimes the team's gonna make plays. But then 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:50.400 you got to find a way to make some plays 0:11:50.440 --> 0:11:52.360 and limit the scoring. And you know that was good 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:55.200 complimentary defense, well a good plays in a row. Yeah, 0:11:55.240 --> 0:11:57.360 those three good plays. But I even had down the 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.640 opening drive to run defense. On the opening drive I 0:11:59.679 --> 0:12:01.640 thought was real solid. You know, you came out there, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:04.120 you saw I was playing quarterback for the Panthers here tonight, 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:07.240 although I didn't at first, Paul had to go, I'm like, 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.120 who was in on the first drive? Who was J Walker? 0:12:10.320 --> 0:12:13.280 And uh, Matt corral was right to quarterbacks and poor 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:15.079 mac Carrel ended up getting hurt had to come out 0:12:15.080 --> 0:12:16.400 of the game. But you kind of know they're going 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:18.440 to be running the ball anyway, and the defense was 0:12:18.520 --> 0:12:20.200 up for it. And I thought the run defense looked 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.559 good on that opening Panthers drive. So as we're you know, 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:25.320 as we're nitpicking our goods, I had that down as 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.400 my first good. Paul what else he wanted was? I mean? 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:31.360 I had ouch also, you know, with the sack and 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:33.480 and you know, we just talked about him, So I 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.400 just thought that like that pressure that they had, um, 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.640 and I mentioned it to Josh when we spoke to him. 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:43.440 It looked like it was it was Barmore and Jay 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:47.600 coming in, you know, and probably like Gotcha and guy 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.800 coming out, and they just got after it like they 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.880 they they made life really difficult. I mean, again, I 0:12:54.920 --> 0:12:56.600 know who was playing, so I'm not trying to make 0:12:56.679 --> 0:12:59.400 more out of it, but I thought that that pressure 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:03.640 package that they had was really effective throughout the game. Yeah, 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.960 and look, um, I think defensively is what you have 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.520 to hang your hat on for this For this game tonight, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:12.360 there are you know, there're some offensive moments that stand out. 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.400 We mentioned one already in Agalore, but I think most 0:13:15.400 --> 0:13:17.080 of these are going to focus in on the defense. 0:13:17.160 --> 0:13:20.080 Boss man Fred Kirsch joining us, now what just in 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.360 time for your favorite part of the entire Pulse game, 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.800 the good List. You know, let me just yeah, keep 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:28.640 going with a good half. It's all good. It's all good, baby, 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:32.040 it's all good. Was it all good tonight? Um? It 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:36.920 was okay. You know, I think the first I think 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:39.120 the first two drives well I'm sure you guys will 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:42.960 talk about it, but um, I think all the wide receivers, 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.440 with the exception of Hammond fared well at times, you know, 0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:49.640 all the way down the list. I think a lot 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.200 of people wide receivers. Yeah, I think a lot of 0:13:52.200 --> 0:13:55.480 people are clamoring for little Jordan Humphrey to make the team. 0:13:55.600 --> 0:13:58.520 I would say that in some capacity. Yeah, I was 0:13:58.520 --> 0:14:00.600 about to put him on the good List. I have 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:03.960 him on my good life. The connection he has with 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:05.840 Zappy and it's one of those weird things of like 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.960 a guy who's fighting for russa spot and he's clicking 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:10.880 with like a young backup quarterback. Does that you know? 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:13.440 Does that translate to that? But the special teams play 0:14:13.480 --> 0:14:15.040 the down and he's doing everything he can. He's a 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.120 big guy, he's kind of unique. So yeah, I like 0:14:17.440 --> 0:14:20.240 little Jordan. I think he's doing everything you can. Right now, Sorry, Hardy, 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.080 we put off by something. Oh no, not at all, 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.120 Not at all. I mean I mean in terms of 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:29.600 the wide receivers as a whole. You know, late in 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:31.720 the game, there were a couple of flashes. But if 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.160 you're if you're gonna, you know, pick one to put 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:35.960 on the Good list. I think it's a galore and 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.800 that's kind of where it stops in terms of the 0:14:37.800 --> 0:14:39.400 guy that you can just put across the board on 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.560 the good list. Tonight, Trey Nixon had some good catches. 0:14:42.600 --> 0:14:46.960 I think for Trey Nixon. Trey Nixon's drop is you 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:49.520 can you can't drop that and allow the guy to 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.120 under cut him on the in the end zone, you mean, yeah, yeah, 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.280 yeah that one. Yeah, you know you hit him in 0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:57.720 the hands. Yeah, yeah, that's a bad drop. You can't. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.440 You know, I'm sorry, I hate for one dropped out. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:03.600 What were the numbers on for Zappy? And I know 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.320 Mac was like ZAPPI was sixteen to twenty five for 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.520 one seventy three. Mac was four of eight for sixty 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:14.360 one yards. So yeah, bit Zappy took it. They both 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.160 took a sack. Yeah. So Born, I mean, Belichick was 0:15:18.200 --> 0:15:21.160 asked about Born and where you know, his whereabouts and 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.680 he just said he wasn't available. But then I guess 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:26.640 later in the press conference he said everyone he expects 0:15:26.640 --> 0:15:30.160 everybody to be available in Vegas next week except for Wilkerson. 0:15:30.880 --> 0:15:35.200 So we'll see if it's a situation with Born, you know, 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:37.920 and who knows like it could be anything. Yeah, you know, 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.840 Born and Trent Brown both you know wen't weren't out 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:42.880 there tonight. Yeah, dude, So who else he got on 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:47.200 your good list tonight? You know, I put I put 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.040 Montgomery down. I don't know, I don't know. Right now 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:51.280 I've got him, I feel, Yeah, Well, I'll tell you 0:15:51.320 --> 0:15:53.320 why I got him down. There were there were back 0:15:53.360 --> 0:15:55.480 to back runs. Obviously had the touchdown, but I had 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.480 the offensive line and the job they did on his 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.160 touchdown that was as much a part of that that 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.040 good that I put him down for as I did 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:05.240 for you know, he and the run itself. Yeah, I 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:08.120 thought I thought the line, you know, was did their 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:09.800 job on that. I just I don't know if it's 0:16:09.840 --> 0:16:11.440 more about the body of work. I thought it was 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:12.920 a little bit of a sample of what he's been 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:14.520 doing the summer. But I just I think he's a 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:17.480 good change of pace and for some reason he seems 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:19.600 to make the most happen in the run game right now. 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:22.120 It's just there's not a lot going on there. Um 0:16:22.240 --> 0:16:23.640 not that either his runs. I mean, I thought the 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:26.000 touchdown one was pretty tough and and pretty hard knows, 0:16:26.080 --> 0:16:29.560 But you know, I just think he's He's continuing to 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:30.960 show that he's going to be a big part of 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:33.520 this offense. And I just I wonder, you know, when 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.320 are we going to see it from Harrison and Stevenson 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:36.840 that they can get it going, because both of them 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:40.320 just continue to kind of love me. I have Montgomery. 0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.840 I'm a good list. So yeah, I think Montgomery's fine. 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.600 I thought he and I was impressed by the run 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.840 before the touchdown. It was like a little toss to 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:50.360 the left to the first down. Yeah, he kept back. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.280 He probably quote unquote shouldn't have gotten the first down. 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:54.760 I thought he did a good job of breaking through 0:16:54.760 --> 0:16:57.960 an arm tackle and diving forward and set up first 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.640 and goal from the two. Yeah, I think that's a 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.240 fine one. More defensive guys, we talked about the pressure. 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.520 I thought Jonathan Jones had excellent deep coverage. And again, 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.440 these guys weren't out there the whole game. So like 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:11.720 that guy was six like Taibon Garmer for you. Now, 0:17:12.040 --> 0:17:14.159 I will say he clearly got away with the penalty 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.359 on that, but I loved where he was in the coverage. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:19.600 He was right, you know, the expert the football guys 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:23.320 will tell you he was in phase. Uh, he was 0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.359 right on his hip the whole way down the sideline. 0:17:25.960 --> 0:17:28.280 I think their deep coverage has been really good so far, 0:17:28.440 --> 0:17:31.359 and in um in a couple of these preseason games. 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:34.040 So I had Jonathan Jones down with his deep coverage 0:17:34.080 --> 0:17:35.840 on that play. I thought that was really really so 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.400 height advantage to that. We we like that. That play 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.480 had me looking at the How tall was that receiver? 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:43.440 Sixty three? He grabbed itself? Oh yeah, a little bit. 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:45.520 We were kind of talking about it on the broadcast 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.000 a little bit. We brushed that under the block, Fred, 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.199 what else? I caught your ride? And would you have 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.040 your peepers peeled? Four? Who who is popular in your ocular? 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.520 I mean you have to take it with a grain 0:17:55.560 --> 0:17:57.720 of salt, you know, because where they going? But I 0:17:57.760 --> 0:18:03.360 think Wise flashed a couple of times some nice plays. Um, 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:06.040 Carl Davis had a couple of nice plays when he 0:18:06.080 --> 0:18:10.720 came in right away. Uh um, trying to think somebody 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.080 else up front caught my eye early? Um, well mcgrown, 0:18:14.240 --> 0:18:17.360 I thought, uh to V had a lot of reps. 0:18:17.440 --> 0:18:20.360 I mean he played almost the whole game in and out. Um, 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.040 were you surprised that much? Mack Wilson plays a little 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:27.159 bit and I'm pretty much the whole mack Wilson. You know, 0:18:27.320 --> 0:18:29.560 he didn't have a lot of tackles, but he's got 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.760 good speed. I was going to bring him up, you know, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.800 he gets to think. But I did say it to 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:35.600 Evan and because it felt like in those first few 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:37.680 drives and this is kind of the top group to VI, 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.560 seemed like the guy out there, but it seemed like 0:18:39.600 --> 0:18:41.280 they were kind of just in their base three four, 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:42.919 you know, So I guess I kind of get that, 0:18:43.000 --> 0:18:45.840 but I was surprised that that mac Wilson wasn't really 0:18:45.880 --> 0:18:47.800 involved in that. But I like him. He continues to 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:50.240 just look really faster, didn't I didn't. I didn't love 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:51.880 him tonight. I mean I didn't think he was bad, 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.080 but he didn't make a lot of plays. I just 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.080 thought he was He's in the area. He was an 0:18:56.080 --> 0:19:00.400 almost tonight. Yeah, like he was flashing a little bit. Yeah. Um, well, 0:19:00.400 --> 0:19:03.080 who wasn't an almost? Who actually made the good list? Well, 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.240 I'm gonna give a guy that that Fred was really 0:19:05.320 --> 0:19:07.480 high on last week. Sean Way, that's a that's a 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.680 nice pick. He comes off his zone coverage. Um, he's 0:19:10.720 --> 0:19:13.800 down the field, he reads the play, comes up and 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:15.960 made an aggressive player on the ball. And although I 0:19:15.960 --> 0:19:19.240 have to say from my angle, the moment that ball 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:24.199 left the quarterbacks hand, I think it was corral that's gone. 0:19:25.880 --> 0:19:27.400 It was almost like it was in the air too 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:31.199 long for punts up all night. Yeah. Yeah, but I 0:19:31.200 --> 0:19:33.320 thought that was a good job by him, Like you know, 0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.880 they're in zone and he recognized the play. He came 0:19:36.920 --> 0:19:39.879 off of his guy and came up and undercut the 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:41.879 intended receiver. I thought that was a good play on 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.719 the ball. Now he shows up later too for not 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:46.240 so good reasons. But I thought that was a really 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:49.800 good play. Team got really hyped hyped for that too. 0:19:50.200 --> 0:19:52.359 Uh what else do we have on a good list? 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.240 It's about all I got J J. Taylor. I thought 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:57.480 it was. I thought he had a nice block in 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.200 there that I think you got to give him cres 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:03.760 um excellent police pick. I mean, listen for his second 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:07.040 preseason game. I think Zappy had a fine game, you know, yeah, 0:20:07.040 --> 0:20:09.080 I mean the pick six. Yeah, but he but he 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:12.320 shows he can throw it. Yeah. Yeah. Look, I had 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.080 him good and bad. You know, I wanted to put 0:20:14.160 --> 0:20:15.880 him on the good list, and then immediately you would 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:18.840 do something so totally but he also got hurt. He 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.800 also got hurt by you know a lot of penalties 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:26.040 that Stall drives. I thought, you know, for a guy 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.679 with no experience, I thought he did Okay, yeah I 0:20:29.720 --> 0:20:31.480 did too. I did too. I mean, I don't have 0:20:31.560 --> 0:20:33.719 anything against him, but I don't know. I thought he 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:35.560 was better last week. I think he meets some throws. 0:20:35.600 --> 0:20:37.480 He definitely, I mean with a little Jordan some of those. 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.440 I mean downfield before the half, it was moving pretty 0:20:40.480 --> 0:20:43.160 well before they got the penalty that somebody on the boxes. 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:46.359 Does he remind you of Drew Brees as it? No, 0:20:49.240 --> 0:20:51.040 I don't. I don't know that he's going to be 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:59.240 on anyone's good list. But um no, Devin, as you know, 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.119 he played too. He played a lot and could he 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.320 be well, I think we're so starved for anything from him. 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:07.439 Well just in terms of you know, what's going on 0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:09.640 with Hunter Henry right now, and you're thinking, it's like, oh, 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:11.760 is this a guy that you know could be you know, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.240 playing himself into some would you rather have Asias or 0:21:15.240 --> 0:21:19.280 a little Jordan Humphrey. That's a good debate, That is good. 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:21.920 I mean, you're listening to the broadcast Life frat By age, 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:24.600 I was, did you like when I, you know, like 0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:26.399 when I went when I made like a Stanza and 0:21:26.400 --> 0:21:28.720 I come in with those close ness. I liked made 0:21:28.760 --> 0:21:30.440 the point that you know, your third tight end is 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.280 usually more of a blocking type, and you know, but 0:21:33.400 --> 0:21:35.560 those you know, I just kind of brought up Humphrey 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.280 for Mike. Mike and I have been talking about this 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:41.879 for a couple of weeks. Hardy just he's not really fast, 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.160 little Jordan Humphrey. He's a six four guy, like two 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:47.960 twenty five to thirty, probably not really big enough to 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.040 be a tight end, but they use him kind of 0:21:50.080 --> 0:21:52.000 as a tight end, like all of his catches almost 0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:55.560 or between the numbers down the scene, and he's been 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.480 effective doing that. I wonder if maybe he's sort of 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:02.080 in that battle as a big slot type that can 0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.760 give you that kind of stuff. I still think ASSISI 0:22:04.880 --> 0:22:07.000 is the third tight end. And I did you say 0:22:07.040 --> 0:22:09.399 that he was or Hardy which one of you guys said, 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:15.000 good list for him? No, I said, Humphrey's definitely on 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:17.000 the good list. That special teams play alone puts him on. 0:22:17.000 --> 0:22:20.399 The specialty was fantastic, I said, ASSISI, I don't know 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:22.040 if I want him on the good list, but is 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:25.280 he showing enough to astly made some place? And and 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.439 Mike and I have been like, you know, Hunter, Henry's out, 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:29.480 You're getting more opportunities you got to take advantage of. 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:31.960 I mean, he catches a touchdown late in the two 0:22:31.960 --> 0:22:34.959 minute drill the other day and the joint practices, but 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:37.119 he also had a ball knocked out of his hands 0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.000 that were like you can't you can't afford those. Tonight, 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.160 every time the ball was thrown his way, he looked 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:47.560 fluid and comfortable catching it. Speaking of the broadcast, Paul, Uh, 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.280 Bob and Zoe didn't know it was a touchdown until 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.040 the extra point that last play because the safety well 0:22:54.040 --> 0:22:56.439 they originally yeah, they did originally put his safety up 0:22:56.440 --> 0:22:58.960 on the board. Yeah, And they were going with the 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:00.800 safety until the guy I lined up to kicks the 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.840 extra point and Bob was I think that was a touchdown. Wow, 0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:07.200 Well they missed the the angel or bomb too, didn't 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:10.560 They were They were on Burton with Burton. Burton was talking, 0:23:10.640 --> 0:23:12.320 but they didn't like, we didn't miss it. This is 0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:14.479 clearly they thought it was safety. Oh yeah, no, they 0:23:14.520 --> 0:23:18.240 showed it. It's preseason for Bob and Scott two preseason 0:23:18.280 --> 0:23:21.840 from calling timeouts fifteen seconds left and a half so 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.400 we could punt on fourth and like a hundred. I mean, 0:23:24.560 --> 0:23:26.440 it didn't make sense less. He just wanted. I think 0:23:26.440 --> 0:23:28.760 he had the right. I think he thought. Now, I'll 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.560 guarantee you they'll tell you that they wanted to work 0:23:31.560 --> 0:23:35.520 on plus fifty punting. I'll guarantee. But but I I'll 0:23:35.520 --> 0:23:37.359 tell you that he thought it was third down because 0:23:37.400 --> 0:23:41.800 that penalty on Fern's was ruled a post play penalty, 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.760 so the down count. And that's what happens when you're 0:23:43.760 --> 0:23:47.360 paying attention to too many things, and selfishly, whenever you're 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.080 calling time out, Fred willing to take it to places 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.600 that I wasn't right. If you're thinking about what's the 0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.840 next offensive play or whatever? Sure, you know sure, And 0:23:56.920 --> 0:23:59.199 selfishly when you're calling time out at all in a 0:23:59.240 --> 0:24:01.679 preseason game, I'm just looking at my watch saying, what 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:03.280 are we doing? You know, what are we doing? You 0:24:03.320 --> 0:24:05.720 want to practice your two minutes about my boy Bledsoe 0:24:05.760 --> 0:24:07.439 had a nice hit to cause that fumble on the 0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.600 on the catch, you know, nice textbook in the helmet, 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.479 all right. I just think overall the speed on defense 0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.159 looked really good. I agree, Freddie, Yeah, they're faster. It's good. 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:20.200 It's good. That's good. It's a good way to put 0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.080 a ball on the good list. Now we go to 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.080 the bats coming together friend. Now we go to the 0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:26.960 bad list, so that we go to the most separate 0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:29.240 now because he won't have any okay, the most negative 0:24:29.240 --> 0:24:32.359 guy in the room, of course, Mike do so first 0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:36.360 on the bad list, we're to start. I'm gonna start. 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:38.320 I'm gonna start with easy just to sloppy play. And 0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:41.600 there's another week of of eleven penalties twelve penalties last week. 0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:43.080 I mean, we can just you know, run down through 0:24:43.160 --> 0:24:46.440 each each specific one. Um, but I just I think 0:24:46.480 --> 0:24:48.879 it's sloppy and it doesn't look I don't want to 0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.520 say it well coordinated. Uh that's a loaded word right 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:53.920 now with coordination. But I just you know, they're killing 0:24:53.960 --> 0:24:55.720 themselves with the same kind of mistakes that we've seen 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.760 in the last couple of years pre snap penalties. Uh, 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.320 you know, bad timing, losing their cool, that kind of stuff. 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.920 It's just it's it's not going to allow them to 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:07.200 get better if they keep doing these things and putting 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.080 themselves behind the eight ball with all these self inflicted mistakes. 0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.840 So for me, it starts there with just the sloppiness 0:25:12.840 --> 0:25:15.480 that you did to yourself with all the penalties. Paul, 0:25:15.560 --> 0:25:21.760 you are you got one? Mac? Yeah, I just don't 0:25:21.800 --> 0:25:25.240 you know. The bomb I talked about at length right 0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:26.840 off the top of the show was the best play 0:25:26.960 --> 0:25:29.240 by far of the night, and it was an absolutely 0:25:29.280 --> 0:25:33.760 perfect throw. So I said that I'm not ignoring. But 0:25:33.960 --> 0:25:36.320 he threw eight passes and he had one perfect one. 0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.480 I thought he missed Parker on the slant. I thought 0:25:40.520 --> 0:25:44.560 he overshot Myers. Those are players like those are pitching catches. 0:25:44.600 --> 0:25:46.919 Those are supposed to be drive starting kind of plays. 0:25:46.920 --> 0:25:49.720 I just thought he was a little often and unsettled. 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:51.800 And the one on Myers not only was it high, 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.960 but had it been lower, it was still late. It 0:25:55.040 --> 0:25:57.919 was still late. He was very indecisive. Takes a long 0:25:57.960 --> 0:25:59.960 time to get there. It was on that ball, Yeah 0:26:00.040 --> 0:26:03.320 it was. He was very indecisive in the first two drives. Yeah. Well, 0:26:03.400 --> 0:26:06.520 I'd like to go chronologically on these lists sometimes, and 0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.399 you know that opening drive, it's like we're going to 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.320 see the first team offense. We're gonna get our first 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.080 real look at it. What's that first pass going to 0:26:12.160 --> 0:26:14.960 look like it's a bad pass to DeVante Parker that 0:26:15.040 --> 0:26:17.439 still should have caught it. I mean, if he had it, 0:26:17.440 --> 0:26:20.199 it's bad. Bad it was it was. He could have 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.280 had it. I'm not saying he should have had it. 0:26:22.280 --> 0:26:23.760 He could have had it. It was a bad pass. 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.639 It was a bad pass. And you know, and again 0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.960 this is what we're starved for, some flow and some 0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:32.840 rhythm and some sign that the offense is going to 0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:35.080 work in your first opportunity due to really show it 0:26:35.119 --> 0:26:37.199 to us, you get that. And that's the first thing 0:26:37.240 --> 0:26:38.680 I worked on. It is like, well, this is bad. 0:26:39.119 --> 0:26:41.679 This is bad. Right away it's bad. It was almost 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.600 like Mac was still not at one hundred percent speed 0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.480 and it took him a little couple drives to realize, oh, okay, 0:26:47.480 --> 0:26:50.280 we're playing for real here. These are live you know, 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.160 live pressure might be right. It's just all kindas looks 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.000 the same. I mean, I just you know, I'd like 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:57.280 to see some progress, but it's just this is what 0:26:57.320 --> 0:26:59.280 it's been. Yeah. My key was I wanted to see 0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.640 some rid them established an offense, and I don't really 0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.360 felt like I even like the touchdown drive was terrific. 0:27:05.640 --> 0:27:08.600 Nine play drive but you know, forty five of it 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.720 came on one play, right. It wasn't like they had 0:27:10.800 --> 0:27:12.679 like a you know, a good sequence of plays to 0:27:12.720 --> 0:27:15.159 move down the field. Um, and then two three and 0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.719 outs obviously not ideal. Yeah, not like not panic central 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:21.280 or anything like that. Um. But I don't think it 0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:24.000 was probably the start that Bill was hold. The line 0:27:24.080 --> 0:27:26.840 was shaky to start. Yeah, and you had no win, 0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:30.320 no Brown. Yeah, you had a when you kicked out 0:27:30.359 --> 0:27:32.640 to tack of Ferrens in there, and I thought Ferrence 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:35.520 really struggled tonight. He's on my bad list. He gives 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.159 up a bad sack, I thought on the first on 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.920 the first drive where he wasn't really competitive, and then 0:27:41.320 --> 0:27:43.920 it's a terrible penalty. Like we talked a lot about, well, 0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:45.919 this is what the undisciplined teams do with the with 0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.280 the joint practice fighting, and a lot of us in 0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:50.400 Boston here have been sort of pointing the finger at 0:27:50.400 --> 0:27:53.320 Carolina for being more responsible for the fights. That was 0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.479 a cheap shot, was on the replay. It didn't it 0:27:56.480 --> 0:28:00.920 didn't look bad. Heart came up after her and they said, 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.719 what did you think about that play? By ferren'side, there 0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.040 was a cheap shot and it's like, no, they hit 0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:08.879 the guy that was causing trouble and practice. That was great. 0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:11.160 You can't do well that. I didn't even I didn't 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.720 even know that. Yeah, now it's even worse than my 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.560 I didn't. I didn't know it was the it was 0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.920 twenty it was twenty seven that got hit. Then Kenny Robinson. Yes, yes, 0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:22.080 but and and it wasn't as bad on the replay. 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:23.639 It wasn't a full blown It was kind of like 0:28:23.640 --> 0:28:25.240 a shoulder to shoulder. But you can't do it. It 0:28:25.280 --> 0:28:27.679 was late. It was way late. You can't do it. 0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.639 And I think twenty seven he did his own and 0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:33.480 Bella I don't think he knew it was coming. But um, 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:36.439 but you should have seen fit seeing heart. You know, 0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.120 the taking beers. You know they were giving away four 0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:41.920 packs of beer and the by the way, what happened? 0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:43.800 It might be did Andy get my beer? I gave 0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.400 it to Andy? Oh, okay, you don't drink? I pa 0:28:46.480 --> 0:28:49.080 do you? I wouldn't know. It's it's I was just Mike. 0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:53.680 Mike had promises. But they're going around, okay, I's I 0:28:53.720 --> 0:28:56.280 call them beer pigeons. They were just going around and 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.880 like taking as much beer as like it's kind of 0:28:59.440 --> 0:29:01.800 really take of gidding, I'm not kidding. Well, that's just 0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.560 sleeping in my house when he got see if he 0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.840 can bring one of those big Jet Blue tickets. Those 0:29:07.840 --> 0:29:09.760 are fun. I mean, I don't know if you can. 0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:13.040 Actually it was given away the big the big thing. 0:29:13.160 --> 0:29:14.720 You guys probably don't get to see it. You don't 0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:16.760 get to see the big videos, see anything. All right? 0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:19.320 Uh Fred, Yeah, give me a bad, give me a bad. 0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.480 That hasn't I agree, that hasn't been mentioned yet. I 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:27.520 agreed with Paul and Mac he did. Yeah. I was stunned. Yeah, Um, 0:29:27.600 --> 0:29:33.920 that's all he has in the huddle on offense. I'm 0:29:33.960 --> 0:29:36.800 talking about the penalties. Like again last week they didn't 0:29:36.800 --> 0:29:38.520 have enough guys on the field on defense or too 0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:40.720 many on the field and defense. This week they too 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:44.760 many in the huddle. Yeah that's well, I think that 0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.120 I think it looked it looked that way. Let me 0:29:48.680 --> 0:29:50.840 let me throw one out here and by the way, 0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:54.760 thought we both get we'll get to that. Yeah, the drops, 0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:58.120 the fourth quarter drops, you know Train Nicks and Josh Hammond, 0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.320 you know, back to back. It's like, yeah, had them 0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:03.920 both on my list. I don't know how you make 0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:06.640 it to this level. And Hammonds I thought was especially 0:30:06.680 --> 0:30:09.920 egregious where it's like, Okay, you're trying to make the team. 0:30:10.000 --> 0:30:11.640 I get it. You know you're a bubble guy. I 0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:15.240 get it. You have to be so good to make 0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:17.880 it to this level where you're considered to be a 0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:21.680 bubble guy in the NFL. How you don't catch that 0:30:21.720 --> 0:30:24.040 ball in that moment? And I understand the pressure and 0:30:24.080 --> 0:30:27.400 all that stuff, but you've been in these moments before. Yeah, 0:30:27.480 --> 0:30:30.760 this is not this is not your first time. Yeah, 0:30:30.840 --> 0:30:33.800 it's just to me, it's it's remarkable that that could 0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:37.600 happens to multiple guys on the same night. Back in 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:41.000 the production. I don't know if they've got the Trey 0:30:41.120 --> 0:30:43.959 Nixon drop in the touchdown in the end zone queued up. 0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:46.920 I'd like to see that again, because he did. The 0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:49.280 other guy did have an armbar on him, you know, 0:30:49.320 --> 0:30:53.400 because he only was able to raise one hand at first. 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:55.320 Um live, it looks, oh, he should have caught that, 0:30:55.360 --> 0:30:57.920 but when you look at it closely, the other the 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:01.040 defender was at his hands. He did in the same 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:03.200 thing that I commented on Thornton on the deep ball 0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.560 last week. He let the ball come to him instead 0:31:05.560 --> 0:31:07.680 of putting his hands up and catching it. I got 0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.040 a pretty good look at the replane. I thought the 0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.680 same thing that you did, Fred, And upon further review, 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.560 he still should have called still should have had it 0:31:14.640 --> 0:31:18.320 and and it was it wasn't it was contested. He 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.200 still should and he actually I thought, initiated the contact 0:31:21.200 --> 0:31:23.040 by pushing, like I don't think it was a penalty 0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:26.200 on anybody, right, But he made the first contact with 0:31:26.240 --> 0:31:28.920 the armbar out and then the guy sort of try 0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.760 to fight through that and that's when they got kind 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:33.480 of got tangled. But I think you're right, hearty. I 0:31:33.520 --> 0:31:35.920 think the ball ended up getting to his body, and 0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.040 I thought it was a very catchable pass in the 0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:40.160 bread basket. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like when 0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.240 you're like you're you're fighting for a rash spot, you 0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.520 can't afford to lose opportunities. And I think probably as 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:50.120 as as damaging as the pick, like he ran kind 0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:54.360 of a you know, a lazy out, didn't really come back, 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:57.480 and I didn't think he came back and fought to 0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:01.000 break up the pick for his quarterback. Bad play by Zappie. 0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:03.800 I mean it's on him, not not Trey Nixon, But 0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:07.920 I think that those plays not good, No, not good. 0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:09.360 What else he got their time? I was going to 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:12.240 throw Marcus Jones on there, unfortunately. I was really looking 0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.360 forward to watching him return a couple of punts and 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:16.320 both of them, or I think it was two of 0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:20.760 them were pulled an adventure well set the other one 0:32:21.040 --> 0:32:24.160 bobbled it and almost lost it. Uh that was all 0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.400 my boy, rookie rookie moment for him. Uh you know, 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:29.680 his first game action. But you know that's just doing 0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:31.680 push ups on the sideline. Never never a good thing. 0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.520 But also I made the comment about Farnce and like 0:32:34.640 --> 0:32:36.920 the chippiness that you had and what we're going to 0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.520 see any of it? And I thought that was an 0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.360 example Bomba was rough in the pastor was cheap? I 0:32:41.360 --> 0:32:43.760 didn't see it was it was a late hit. It 0:32:43.800 --> 0:32:47.040 was really late, yeah, and really unst it was dumb 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.600 dumb um. So I had him on the bad list 0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.680 just for that one play. Not that he played bad 0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:55.600 in the game, but that's the kind of play in 0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.239 a real game that can really hurt you, you know, 0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:00.720 anything else specifically where want to get to on the 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.200 bad list here? I just I just was kind of 0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.360 grossed out that they were two for twelve and third down. 0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:07.720 I mean, it's just, you know, I think that's just overall, 0:33:08.800 --> 0:33:10.760 they had no clutch, they had no you know, ability 0:33:10.800 --> 0:33:12.920 to make plays when it counted. I mean, if you 0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:15.160 think they should have kept Mac in for another series 0:33:15.200 --> 0:33:17.280 at least, I mean, the only thing I would consider 0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:20.000 was just the fact that the offensive line was banged up. 0:33:20.120 --> 0:33:21.880 I took that a little bit into consideration. But I 0:33:21.920 --> 0:33:23.880 don't know. I mean, we're going into one more week here, 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.120 You're gonna have two joint practices and one more preseason game. 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.200 I feel like I've learned nothing about this offense from 0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:31.840 the first day we saw him. They made a couple 0:33:31.840 --> 0:33:34.600 of plays, but you know, from from the jump down, 0:33:34.760 --> 0:33:36.360 I wanted to see a full half. I wanted to 0:33:36.400 --> 0:33:38.800 see you know, you know, plenty of Mac. And at 0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:41.000 the end of it, Fred I kind of felt glad 0:33:41.000 --> 0:33:44.760 they were putting me and him out of our missile. Seriously, 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.720 it wasn't it wasn't working, it wasn't clicking. Yeah, I 0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.200 don't I didn't need to see. I called for fifteen 0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:52.480 or twenty plays. I think they had fifteen. Yeah, it 0:33:52.560 --> 0:33:55.320 was three, three and ten, So I think of sixteen Yeah, 0:33:55.720 --> 0:34:00.000 all right, anything else boys before we get to the injured, Yeah, 0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.200 that might be one of the worst parts of the 0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.320 whole game. So, I mean I had a couple of 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.120 individual things. I think Kevin Harris flashes a little I 0:34:08.160 --> 0:34:10.960 don't see really a whole lot from Pierre Strong, like 0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:13.480 just in those two running rookie running backs, not really 0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:15.200 the time. They don't belong in the good or a 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.560 bad list. I just as an observation, Kendrick Bourne, is 0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:22.239 that worth like talking about as like a bad like yeah, 0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:25.600 whether I have no idea, yeah it could. It's you know, 0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:28.680 a pattern now this summer. He hasn't had a good summer. 0:34:29.160 --> 0:34:30.880 It's it's one of those things too, where like I 0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:33.040 feel like the media us we start to get a 0:34:33.040 --> 0:34:35.160 little bit of a beat on it. The last practice 0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.000 maybe was when we first really started like talking about 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.400 is this the thing with Bourne? Is he running with 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:42.760 the twos? You know? And then it kind of gets 0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.200 confirmed that something might be going on. Maybe maybe not, 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:46.880 though of course you got to disclaim. I mean, the 0:34:46.920 --> 0:34:49.440 guy could have COVID or whatever. But well, and that's 0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:51.319 what I was wondering because I and I don't know, 0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:55.040 because I can't see the whole sideline. Greg Badard before 0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:58.440 the game said he didn't see Billy Yates on the sideline, 0:34:59.440 --> 0:35:02.000 and he's the assistant offensive line coach. Now, Trent Brown's 0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.840 one of the guys who's not dressed tonight that we 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:07.120 don't know about any injury. So my immediate reaction is 0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:08.759 one of those guys has COVID and the other guy 0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.400 was like a close car whatever, something like that, and 0:35:11.440 --> 0:35:15.480 then you're like, well, born in Trent Brown have no 0:35:15.560 --> 0:35:17.960 injuries that we that were aware of. I wonder if 0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.799 maybe it's something like that. I heard that Born was 0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:25.680 getting a time out. I mean that's I mean, based 0:35:25.719 --> 0:35:27.759 on what we've seen, it's not. It doesn't seem like 0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:34.200 a leap to speculate that if you're going Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, 0:35:34.239 --> 0:35:37.040 he'd be fine for practices. That would be his five days. 0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.719 So who knows. We'll never know. Well, yeah, that's true. 0:35:41.520 --> 0:35:47.640 Was it COVID or was he benched? Um? What it 0:35:47.680 --> 0:35:49.960 got for the injuries there does? Yeah, what a buzz kill. 0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:53.000 This one was essentially big one, big one. Taekwon Thornton 0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.200 and shoulder announced out late in the game when I 0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.200 didn't even think he would probably be playing anyway. But 0:35:58.280 --> 0:36:00.560 I still just feel like that's concerned that they would 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:03.480 rule somebody out. Hopefully it's just a precaution, but and 0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:07.120 he was. I mean, we're not bringing him back yet. 0:36:07.160 --> 0:36:09.160 But on the play, I just felt like it was 0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:11.880 it showed a rookie who doesn't have the savvy to 0:36:11.880 --> 0:36:14.719 get down and live to fight another day. Don't run 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:18.160 back into the teeth of Brandon Cooks. I mean, he 0:36:18.239 --> 0:36:20.640 got four different guys landing on him. I mean, he 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.799 got smoked. I love that he's trying to pick up 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:25.360 some extra yards, but there's just a fine line between 0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:28.600 picking up some extra yards and putting yourself in harm's 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:30.319 way when you're running back into the teeth of the 0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:32.879 defense and you're gonna get smoked. And he got smoked, which, 0:36:32.880 --> 0:36:34.560 by the way, Mac had one of those players tonight 0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.680 where he went down a little bit late. I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 0:36:37.680 --> 0:36:40.200 easy dah Well you know that. Yeah, I appreciate you're 0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.200 trying to get the extra two yards. They're not necessary. Yeah, 0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.520 it's it's just it's a buzz kill. Yeah, Douce, but 0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:49.399 tell me. Belichick actually said about little Jordan Humphrey, he's 0:36:49.440 --> 0:36:53.919 tight end dish, he's a big target. I love it, Douce, 0:36:55.120 --> 0:36:56.719 right on it. We've arrived. We have the pulse of 0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.719 we've arrived, young lad. Congratulations to you both. It's just 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:05.200 he's just tall, tall arm Any other injuries that we 0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:08.360 need to bring him was the only It seemed like 0:37:08.400 --> 0:37:10.040 the Panthers had a bunch, But the Thornton one is 0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.359 just such a bum irving. Did he ever come back 0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:14.359 in the game? He that looks serious thought he did. 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.319 I thought he didn't come back. He had come back 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:21.920 in Yeah. I didn't see one Patriot player down. No, No, 0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:23.719 I don't. I can't remember one either. I mean, and 0:37:23.760 --> 0:37:25.439 I helped my breath though when Thornton went down, because 0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.680 I look like that didn't look so did he come up? 0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:30.120 Like I didn't notice some coming up gimpia. I think 0:37:30.160 --> 0:37:32.319 he stayed in the game at that point. Yeah, So 0:37:32.520 --> 0:37:34.000 I don't know. Maybe it's just a he did run 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:36.080 a great you know, and I didn't get to see it. 0:37:36.120 --> 0:37:39.200 But as a play was happening live, Zoe like lost it, 0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:41.680 like he ran. I think the first play that Hoyer 0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:44.400 was in he ended up throwing it somewhere else, and 0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:47.440 he said that Thornton made a really good route and 0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.120 got open deep could have had a big play. Yeah. Yeah, 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.680 I just it's it's it's it's tough. I think that 0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.440 they're a different team when he's on the field. I 0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:57.200 think that's a whole different dynamic. And you saw Aggler's 0:37:57.239 --> 0:38:00.359 ability to get downfield. I just I just want if 0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.160 with what they're trying to roll out there, which is 0:38:02.200 --> 0:38:06.279 probably going to be Parker, Agalore and Myers, if that 0:38:06.719 --> 0:38:10.560 set up has enough speed and dynamic ability to really 0:38:10.719 --> 0:38:13.359 get this offense into gear. I don't know, there's still 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.399 a part of me that thinks that you gotta lean 0:38:15.440 --> 0:38:18.560 more into making Agalore and Thornton the main guys. Let's 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.720 go to the phone. Eight five five pats, five hundred 0:38:20.800 --> 0:38:23.640 emails to web radio Patriots dot com. We begin with 0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:26.400 cousin Patty and agawan pat what's going on? Don't have 0:38:26.440 --> 0:38:31.799 a cousin Patty going on? Guys, Hey, hey, Boddy, Um, 0:38:32.040 --> 0:38:35.000 just to sort of rehash what I said. First off, 0:38:35.719 --> 0:38:40.440 Jordan Humphrey's making this team just based on the special 0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:44.480 teams play alone. He's making the team, Okay, and Plus 0:38:44.480 --> 0:38:46.719 you know, Belichick is said in the past, you know, 0:38:47.000 --> 0:38:50.279 do do what you can, make the most of your opportunity. 0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:53.640 He had from my account, yet four catches. Two of 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:57.200 them he was covered, he was getting muggs made him 0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:03.880 and the other two he just separated. But just I 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.640 said earlier, like, if if they don't shore up this 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:09.960 offensive line, this this is going to be a long year. Yeah, 0:39:10.000 --> 0:39:13.040 and I believe in Max, but if they can't keep 0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.720 them protected, I'm worried. Yeah, unlike Paul, I do believe 0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:20.359 the offensive line is important, and I agree they've got 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:22.239 to get it. Well, I think it's especially important with 0:39:22.280 --> 0:39:27.680 the quarterback that you have. And I'm well, no, because yeah, yourself. 0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:30.120 Guys guys that can move go to the super Bowl 0:39:30.520 --> 0:39:33.600 without great offensive lines, Guys that are kind of need 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:36.960 the pocket. And he said it Wednesday, he said, you know, 0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:39.680 if I can have I if I have room to 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.959 step into my throws and don't have bodies around my feet, 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.840 I can make the throws, which would put him in 0:39:44.840 --> 0:39:47.719 a category with thirty one other starting quarterbacks in the league. Like, 0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:50.520 I think it's really important for him. Yeah, I think 0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.479 it's really important for him that he needs a clean 0:39:52.520 --> 0:39:55.879 pocket because when he moves around, it's not that throw 0:39:55.960 --> 0:39:59.239 that you're talking about. Um Freddie with Myers. The one 0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.040 you said was high, but it was laid anyway. It 0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.920 was late as he was moving when he threw it, 0:40:03.960 --> 0:40:05.720 and he didn't get He doesn't have the arm strength 0:40:05.719 --> 0:40:08.560 to get it there. Pat thanks for the car, buddy, 0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.839 you appreciate it. Get it all right. Let's go to 0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:15.120 Mark here in Manchester, England. Mark, thanks for holding your 0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:19.239 on the Patriots postgame show. What's up, hi, guys? How 0:40:19.239 --> 0:40:23.719 are you doing? Excellent? And one thing I was doing 0:40:23.920 --> 0:40:26.000 five in the morning. I did see Paul on Talley 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:31.040 and he was doing his mac Jones breathing exercises before 0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:35.640 he actually did his analysis. I was pretty impressive. So 0:40:35.800 --> 0:40:38.440 well done on that, Paul. Okay, he is one of 0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:42.600 my favorite analysts. He really did stop. You basically answered 0:40:42.600 --> 0:40:44.719 a lot of my questions. There's just one confirmation. Do 0:40:44.760 --> 0:40:47.960 you guys think that Jordan does make this team or not? 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:53.160 And finally I'll take it off you. I'm going to 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:56.480 say yes. Claire has got to be pretty happy that asked. 0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.200 He asked. He actually based some plays there, dude. She 0:40:59.280 --> 0:41:06.279 loves the tight she does tight ends. I'm here. I 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:09.760 need to know more about the status of the wide receivers, 0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:14.640 Like is Born hurt in the doghouse? What's the deal 0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:19.160 there is Taekwon Thornton hurt? I think if those five 0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:22.440 guys are all healthy and not in trouble in any way, 0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:25.040 I think Humphrey, I think they cut him in and 0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.359 they'll get him on the practice squad. Yeah that's what 0:41:27.440 --> 0:41:32.160 I think. Yeah, okay, um yeah, four am in Manchester. 0:41:32.880 --> 0:41:36.400 I mean that's that's so late, that's dedication. Yeah, but 0:41:36.440 --> 0:41:39.759 he was up watching that game. How about that? I 0:41:39.800 --> 0:41:42.840 mean not just a game, that game like he's in 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:45.480 the like he not only watched through the fourth quarter 0:41:45.520 --> 0:41:47.440 and all that, which I came down like five minutes left. 0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:49.080 I'm like, I got the gist of it. But then 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:52.400 he waited an hour. Like I walked into the studio 0:41:52.680 --> 0:41:55.320 and you you were here, and I was kind of stunted, 0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:57.480 like I just didn't want to get caught in the 0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.800 writer elevator where it's two hundred people passed. I was 0:42:00.880 --> 0:42:02.600 getting I was getting the stink eye because they were 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.760 trying to get in and set up the postgame press coverage. 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.560 I'm supposed to be out by five to five minute 0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.279 mark on home games, and you know, it's like I 0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.520 can't just leave. I need them to like tell me 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:14.600 to go, because just in case they go to me 0:42:15.120 --> 0:42:17.200 and they're like looking, they're waiting to get set up, 0:42:17.200 --> 0:42:19.160 and you know, like when you have something like that 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:21.080 to do, you just want to get it done right right. 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:23.680 Everybody's looking at me. I like, sorry, I'm sorry. I 0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.919 guess on game pass people that were watching they could hear, 0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:32.440 uh the off screen banter between you and like Fran 0:42:32.560 --> 0:42:36.319 and oh and Bob and yeah. So yeah, but I 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:37.960 mean that's a lot of that is just we're talking 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.600 about what we're going to talk about the next segment, right, Uh, 0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:44.480 David in New York? What's up, David? Hey, guys, that's it? 0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:50.480 Go good sweet. Obviously obviously a huge win here today, 0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:56.319 super big impact. But anyways, I wanted to kind of 0:42:56.360 --> 0:42:59.680 touch on, like I feel like this has been an 0:42:59.719 --> 0:43:04.719 issue since last year maybe a little bit four. But again, 0:43:04.760 --> 0:43:09.120 I know it's preseason right now, but the dropped interceptions 0:43:09.120 --> 0:43:12.759 are really kind of bugging you right now, and you 0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.080 know you can't get them all, but man, he certainly 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:18.040 could have gotten that one. Well that I mean Jack 0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:20.439 Jones has to Yeah, he has to catch that. Yeah. 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:23.800 And as a rule, I'm not as upset about dropped 0:43:23.840 --> 0:43:26.560 interceptions because if guys were better at catching balls, they'd 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:30.959 be receivers. If for the most part, if on this 0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:34.279 team they don't have the margin, if they have a 0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.719 chance for a turnover, they've got to they've got to 0:43:36.719 --> 0:43:39.240 take it. I mean that was an easy pick. Yes, 0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:41.239 of course he did a great job of running that 0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:45.560 route for the receiver in better position. Um Karen Garigian 0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:50.600 real quick on Twitter perse source pages tackle Trent Brown 0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:55.399 isn't injured. He was given the night off. Maybe he's 0:43:55.440 --> 0:43:59.560 filming the mass singer Protect the franchise. What do we 0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:04.239 think about that? Um, So, night off for a lot 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.239 of people means you still dressed, but you don't play. 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.040 But for him, you don't have to even show up. 0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.680 Not not buying it for that very reason. Freddy's been around, 0:44:11.760 --> 0:44:15.320 he knows Bill wants you. Now. I could be wrong, 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:18.360 but in the second half, I don't think McCaffrey and 0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:23.000 Mayfield were even out on the bench. I saw McCaffrey 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.560 Mayfield come out late. They had a lot of guys 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:31.120 not even dressed. The penalty McCaffrey dressed. He never I 0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.120 mean he was in on the warm ups. He you know, 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.840 he was running plays during warm ups. Maybe a lot 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.279 of those guys took their equipment off at half time. 0:44:38.320 --> 0:44:40.600 I think, so you might be right. Yeah, just so 0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.520 many guys down there not in uniform on the sideline. 0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.920 It just it. Yeah. Bill did that one year, and 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.719 I don't think he liked it. Was a real bad look. 0:44:47.960 --> 0:44:50.440 He didn't like the comportment. I think when you're at 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:55.839 you act differently. I think you're right, you know, absolutely, 0:44:56.400 --> 0:44:58.319 but don't get to put your hands in your shoulder. 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Now, okay, so we're off to a 0:48:53.719 --> 0:48:56.600 bad start, according to Paul, Live from our studios inside 0:48:56.640 --> 0:49:03.000 Galette Stadium, here's Hardy and we're back. Patriots Postgame Show 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:06.240 presented by cyber Reason Big Win for the Patriots tonight 0:49:06.239 --> 0:49:08.680 twenty to ten over the Carolina Panthers after a week 0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:11.000 of joint practices. Before we get to Bob, who's in 0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:17.239 the hot tub? Sexy Fred? Overall the chippiness this week 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:19.600 training camp. We talked about it at length in the 0:49:19.600 --> 0:49:22.520 pregame show. You take anything good out of it? Or 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:24.719 did you just think that was a bad look, bad 0:49:24.760 --> 0:49:29.720 look all around? Okay? Yeah, nonproductive, you know, just guys 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:34.360 being immature. Yeah, both sides, both sides. Yeah, I agree 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:36.040 with you, I agree with you. All right. Now we 0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.920 go to Bob mostly Panthers, though I would largely agree 0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.120 with that. Like the standing over thing on Wednesday was 0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.960 really like, I can't understand why the Patriots didn't like that. Yeah, 0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:50.040 if Matthew Slater is getting involved, then you know Slater. 0:49:50.600 --> 0:49:53.879 It was legitimately upset about it, which you don't see 0:49:53.920 --> 0:49:56.840 all that often. All right, Bob, are you actually in 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:59.399 the hot tub? Are the jets on? The jets are off? 0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.680 I can tell the jets off. All jets are off? Okay? 0:50:04.000 --> 0:50:08.400 Is it a Jacuzzi brand? It's a thermospot but you know, 0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:10.799 I don't want to do any product placement, but it's 0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:13.680 a you know, it's a nice hot I prefer sun dance, 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:18.840 but go ahead, seating for five? Yeah, the five seater nice? 0:50:19.000 --> 0:50:22.440 Are you? Are you a swinger? Well, I don't want 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:26.040 to go all right? Are you new? It might be listening? 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:30.680 Don't good? So anyways, I got two thoughts on the linebackers. 0:50:31.280 --> 0:50:34.680 So is it premature to say that we kind of 0:50:34.680 --> 0:50:38.839 made out better in the Chase Winovich mac Wilson deal there? Yes, 0:50:40.000 --> 0:50:42.319 Well we'll see. I mean, I think he played lately. 0:50:42.400 --> 0:50:44.200 I mean, I'm curious how big Matt Wilson's role is 0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:45.960 gonna be. I love it to be big. But you know, 0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.080 he wasn't like at that top line, like get him 0:50:48.160 --> 0:50:50.239 right out there right away. So isn't this the time 0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:52.040 of year that everybody kind of fell in love with 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.480 Chase Winovich in the first place, with the hair right 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.760 coming off the edge and sacking the quarterback, all really 0:50:57.800 --> 0:51:02.000 popping in preseason games. Absolutely, Now, mack Wilson can run. 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.080 He you know, he got himself in the throwing lane 0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:06.080 tonight and knocked to pass down. You know, he made 0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.160 some place. Yeah, Jennings ditched some things late, but it 0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:15.680 was late. I think Jennings is making a push though, yeah, yeah, yeah, right, okay, 0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:19.759 and then camera camera grown. If you're a realtor and 0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:21.640 he comes to you, you're gonna tell him to buy 0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:24.960 rent or maybe football how to just be a hobby 0:51:25.000 --> 0:51:27.120 for you. I'll tell you. He had one nice play 0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:30.959 from his position across the field. It was a run 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:33.880 to the edge and he shot through the edge and 0:51:33.960 --> 0:51:36.799 made the play for like a one yard game, real 0:51:36.920 --> 0:51:40.359 good speed, nice play. First time I've ever seen him 0:51:40.360 --> 0:51:44.160 make a play. Oh, so you've made it like that's 0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:46.560 what they make fun of me for that. No, I've 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:50.279 never first time, he's never because he's not hasn't been 0:51:50.320 --> 0:51:52.080 on the field that I miss. I missed the first 0:51:52.080 --> 0:51:53.879 play I've ever seen him make. I still haven't seen 0:51:53.960 --> 0:51:56.239 him play. This was a nice one. Go back. I 0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:58.080 know the play you're talking about because we had an 0:51:58.200 --> 0:51:59.920 over runder on the amount of tackles he had an 0:52:00.000 --> 0:52:01.600 I was keeping tracking. That was one I had. It 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.080 was a real nice play, nice speed, real shure tackle. 0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:08.520 Um came from distance and you know, limited it to 0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.480 a one yard run. It was really good. All right, Bob, 0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:16.680 appreciate it back in that five seater h Chase Winovic 0:52:16.920 --> 0:52:21.439 hot tub guy. But saltwater. He's a saltwater hot tup guy. 0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:23.520 I've got him pegged as being a guy who would 0:52:23.560 --> 0:52:26.200 be in due is a relaxation. But he doesn't want 0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.400 all the chemicals. Yeah, he's not putting the shock of 0:52:29.040 --> 0:52:31.600 blonde hair a different color. You know, you never know. 0:52:31.800 --> 0:52:34.960 You gotta be careful. We got we got some emails here. 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:36.800 We're gonna hear from a coach Belichick here in a 0:52:36.840 --> 0:52:41.600 few minutes. But Ryan and Oceanside, California said, I never 0:52:41.680 --> 0:52:44.759 really had any opinions on Humphrey before tonight, but this 0:52:44.880 --> 0:52:48.239 game made me a genuine believer, really hoping he can 0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:52.400 make the team. Also, in any case, uh, any of 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.600 you traveling to Vegas next week, I just spent the 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:57.600 last four days there and it was regularly over one 0:52:57.719 --> 0:53:00.759 hundred degrees, So make sure to try all prepared for 0:53:00.800 --> 0:53:06.360 the heat. That hydrate. It makes packing easy. There's no sweatshirts, 0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:09.400 there's no sweatpants. There's not and I don't want to 0:53:09.440 --> 0:53:12.000 lose your buddy to make sure your hydra and hardy. 0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:14.759 I didn't know if you know, but the winds there 0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:18.319 are Santa Fe winds, so they're hot, so you don't 0:53:18.360 --> 0:53:21.360 even get any relief from the breeze. It's a hot breeze. 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.160 Santa Anna's Santa Anna winds Santa and not Santa Fe. 0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:29.399 Santa and Santa Fe is delightful New Mexico. Yeah, Santa Anna. 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:34.080 There's the high desert and you guys have all been 0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:36.480 there hot, you know what it's like. But it's you know, 0:53:36.640 --> 0:53:38.480 I don't know if you've ever been there in August 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:41.600 I have, Okay, so dry hot to be outside at 0:53:41.600 --> 0:53:43.480 two o'clock in the morning was my takeaway. If you know, 0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.600 a dry heat also like an oven. An oven is 0:53:46.640 --> 0:53:48.759 also a dry heat. Not a place that I want 0:53:48.800 --> 0:53:51.320 to spend any significant time. Wow, but you love theo 0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:53.120 you love the heat. I do love the heat. But 0:53:53.400 --> 0:53:56.200 but but a buck ten, I think is different than like, oh, 0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:58.640 it was ninety six in Boston. You're gonna step outside 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:00.160 one of these nights. You're gonna be out, you know, 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.680 well after midnight, you're gonna step out on into sidewalk 0:54:02.719 --> 0:54:04.880 and you're gonna be amazed because it's still gonna be 0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:07.160 one hundred and five degrees right, But you're just in 0:54:07.200 --> 0:54:09.160 an alternate reality. You're in like most of the time, 0:54:09.200 --> 0:54:11.440 you're in a casino. It's air conditioned, it's cold. You're 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:13.960 like just live in life, loving things, and then you're like, oh, 0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:15.760 I'm gonna go to this other casino. You step outside 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:19.280 and then Hord's like another Yeah, as you said, oppressive 0:54:20.000 --> 0:54:28.640 about that again, it's like marn like enough, you still 0:54:28.760 --> 0:54:31.560 have to go to Roberto's Taco shop. Yeah, you're pumping 0:54:31.640 --> 0:54:34.520 it up, and I could use some good Mexican food. 0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:35.920 I miss it. That's one of the things I miss 0:54:36.040 --> 0:54:39.160 most about the Southwest. Well, that's that's that's a must visit. 0:54:39.239 --> 0:54:41.759 Taco Bell doesn't do it for you because that that 0:54:42.000 --> 0:54:44.160 does the diarrhea for me. But not at the very 0:54:44.239 --> 0:54:46.680 least go to Del Taco. You know, that's just a gate. 0:54:47.200 --> 0:54:49.400 I went to Del Taco once and I this is 0:54:49.480 --> 0:54:51.799 not this is a true story. Yeah in La right 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.640 right in Westchester and Airlex went to Del Taco. Swear 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:58.320 to God, a tone enail in my nachos, A toenail. 0:54:59.280 --> 0:55:02.719 I'm never going back again. Clipped tonail. You know, I 0:55:02.760 --> 0:55:06.760 could clip your tonail. It could be a big thumbnail perhaps, 0:55:06.960 --> 0:55:08.960 but it was big enough. I think it was a toneail. 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:11.200 And I never went back to Del Taco against it's 0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.200 my Del Taco story. I have to say that if 0:55:13.400 --> 0:55:15.200 that happened to me, it would be enough to keep 0:55:15.239 --> 0:55:17.320 me away from that place for life, unless it was 0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:20.440 like a real purpose. It looked like it would have 0:55:20.520 --> 0:55:22.160 to be a really really good place for me to 0:55:22.239 --> 0:55:24.400 go back. If you won't find that at Robert to 0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:31.160 Classic Classic High Cruise, says Matt from Connecticut. Is there 0:55:31.200 --> 0:55:34.680 any cause for concern that the first team offense hasn't 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:38.080 gotten enough reps in the preseason games? So far? Eight 0:55:38.160 --> 0:55:41.640 attempts for Mac, three carries for Harris, two for Stevenson 0:55:41.719 --> 0:55:44.759 for their preseason totals, will they even play next week? 0:55:44.880 --> 0:55:46.520 This is a good question I want to get into. 0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:49.520 I don't know. I guess if joint practices me more anyway, 0:55:50.400 --> 0:55:53.040 then the game action isn't that important. Just worried a 0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:56.400 little bit. That's Matt in Connecticut, all right. So aside 0:55:56.440 --> 0:56:00.799 from their their their rep totals? What is next week game? If? 0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:04.279 If game one fred, which I came around on, if 0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:08.040 game one is the new game four, what is game three? 0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.240 Is it still game three? No? Game three is another 0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:15.879 game two? So you have a Game four and two 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:19.640 Game two. Yes, So here's where I really really want to, 0:56:19.719 --> 0:56:23.240 like argue, but I have absolutely no idea what to expect. 0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.560 Does the math add up pull on one past two? 0:56:27.640 --> 0:56:29.840 I can't translate the math of of what what the 0:56:29.920 --> 0:56:33.200 preseason is now. I just I I hope they play 0:56:33.400 --> 0:56:35.359 into the second half. I hope the starter. I hope 0:56:35.400 --> 0:56:38.719 Mac Jones plays into the second Why exactly because I 0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:40.960 just think they need it. Like they just look terrible. 0:56:41.040 --> 0:56:43.480 I mean what like like it's like it's not playing 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:46.400 going to help them like that that's helpful. Like, I mean, 0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.279 I just think if anything's gonna be helpful, that's kind 0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:51.239 of play. Maybe I'm looking at this too simplistically, but 0:56:51.360 --> 0:56:53.920 I feel like, like like doosts right now, I think 0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:59.239 Bailey zappi is is prepared for that Week one? Any 0:56:59.320 --> 0:57:01.880 value in this? And I know I'm wrong. I know, 0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.279 like obviously all the coaches know what they're doing. I 0:57:04.360 --> 0:57:06.319 just I don't know what you get out of them 0:57:06.680 --> 0:57:10.879 out of this stuff. Well, listen, I know, like we've said, 0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:14.239 these joint practices are very important, and Bill might even 0:57:14.360 --> 0:57:17.280 value them more than the game. But you're not tackling 0:57:17.640 --> 0:57:21.440 in joint practice, and especially the quarterback. You know they 0:57:21.520 --> 0:57:25.600 can't hit you, so that changes your mindset. And that's 0:57:25.640 --> 0:57:27.120 why I said, in the beginning of this game, it 0:57:27.200 --> 0:57:30.200 looked like Mac was still in like, you know, red 0:57:30.280 --> 0:57:34.600 shirt mode, and it took a couple series before we realize, Oh, 0:57:34.760 --> 0:57:37.080 they're really coming after me. I gotta, I gotta, I 0:57:37.160 --> 0:57:40.120 gotta think quick here. Yeah, say you're you're using that 0:57:40.240 --> 0:57:42.720 as the reason why he looks slow. I think it's 0:57:42.800 --> 0:57:45.080 just as plausible that he looks slow as that he's 0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:49.080 still uncomfortable with this offense and he's moving slower because 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:51.280 he can't react as quickly as he was. I'm not 0:57:51.440 --> 0:57:54.120 buying that, Like, what's so different about when he drops 0:57:54.200 --> 0:57:57.680 back to pass from last year? We are some things 0:57:57.760 --> 0:58:00.520 that are different and he has to you know, some 0:58:00.600 --> 0:58:03.280 of those stretched and they pull it back Anya, I 0:58:03.320 --> 0:58:05.520 don't think those are I don't think that's that's his 0:58:05.640 --> 0:58:09.360 skill set. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I like your point, Paul, 0:58:09.360 --> 0:58:13.200 And yeah, And I was kind of arguing that in 0:58:13.280 --> 0:58:15.640 my head of like does this really mean anything? Can 0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:18.919 we learn anything? But it's just has been. I'm gonna 0:58:18.960 --> 0:58:22.480 be so surprised if they come out in week one 0:58:22.640 --> 0:58:24.960 and look pretty good because I just have never seen it, 0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:28.880 Like I'm literally, you've never seen a consistent period where wow, 0:58:28.880 --> 0:58:31.240 they're just really on today, great day. I mean maybe 0:58:31.280 --> 0:58:33.280 the first day of joint practices this week was was 0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:38.120 pretty good, but still didn't feel like anything about these 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.320 Mac had been accurate to start, the offense would have 0:58:42.360 --> 0:58:46.320 looked fine. It wasn't like guys were, you know, not 0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:49.040 on the same page, or the ball was being thrown 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:51.440 in the ground or any of that. It's just that 0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:54.200 Mac wasn't accurate to begin with. So it's not a 0:58:54.320 --> 0:58:56.840 problem of him looking slow, because there were times when 0:58:56.920 --> 0:58:58.680 Brady looked like he was. But I think part of 0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:03.400 his inaccuracy comes from indecisiveness, you know, like it's like 0:59:03.520 --> 0:59:06.400 the guy throw first, the pitcher throw the first, and 0:59:06.440 --> 0:59:08.640 he's thinking about it and he can't throw an accurate 0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.160 Then that's the offense. It's not the speed of the details. 0:59:11.400 --> 0:59:16.200 It's Mac. It's Mac. So Mac is the problem. It 0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:21.200 was the first two series it was well, he didn't 0:59:21.200 --> 0:59:28.040 play well and but there there you have it. Yeah, 0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:32.520 there it is. Well. Maybe maybe Bill Belichick feels the 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:34.640 same way. I'm sure he was asked about the play 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:36.840 of his starting quarterback to night. Let's see what the 0:59:36.920 --> 0:59:39.760 head coach had to say as the game wrapped up 0:59:39.800 --> 0:59:41.920 here it was a win. You'd never know at the 0:59:42.280 --> 0:59:44.640 offense would have looked fine, You'd never know from listening 0:59:44.720 --> 0:59:47.480 to Fred Kirsh. But the Patriots did get the win tonight, 0:59:47.600 --> 0:59:52.040 twenty to ten, So you know it's right though, if 0:59:52.040 --> 0:59:54.960 he puts the slant on Parker or you know it's 0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:58.080 it's Myers, you know, a foot lower than he threw it, 0:59:58.160 --> 1:00:01.760 I don't think you're looking at the offense struggled tonight, Okay, 1:00:01.880 --> 1:00:05.120 But my point is this, Fred is saying that that 1:00:05.360 --> 1:00:12.080 Mac Jones looked slow, like he wasn't ready for game speed. Decisive, Yeah, okay, 1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:15.840 throws her off. So he would he was thrown off 1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:18.480 by the fact that he was seeing real game action tonight. 1:00:18.600 --> 1:00:23.160 That's okay. I I well, I will take what Mac 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.440 has said and that he's thrown off and he's not 1:00:25.880 --> 1:00:28.920 he's not feeling this offense and he maybe he's not 1:00:29.040 --> 1:00:34.000 feeling it because feel it's a slant. What's the feel 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:36.760 about a slant that play? Fred's Fred's right? Yeah, like 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:41.960 I think I think there are elements of the pass 1:00:42.000 --> 1:00:43.880 a game that are every bit the same as that 1:00:43.960 --> 1:00:46.320 He's always done. And I think that was one place 1:00:46.480 --> 1:00:49.240 that was a quick you know, there was no reads 1:00:49.280 --> 1:00:50.880 on that. I'm just gonna get the ball all quick 1:00:50.880 --> 1:00:52.680 and I'm gonna throw a slant at DeVante Parker and 1:00:52.760 --> 1:00:54.360 he put it on his back hand and you and 1:00:55.080 --> 1:00:58.000 remember the third drive, he was getting the ball and 1:00:58.120 --> 1:01:00.880 immediately getting rid of it. Almost didn't even have a 1:01:00.920 --> 1:01:02.800 good grip on it sometimes. And that's why I feel 1:01:02.840 --> 1:01:04.200 like he needs to play a bunch like I mean, 1:01:04.240 --> 1:01:05.920 I just know, like for me, I'm not gonna be 1:01:06.120 --> 1:01:08.440 a pays no no, But I just wondering how much 1:01:08.480 --> 1:01:09.880 you get out I just want, and I wonder how 1:01:09.960 --> 1:01:11.920 much you're getting out of joint practices and how they 1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:14.400 really feel about it, you know. But I just I 1:01:14.480 --> 1:01:16.880 feel like from from my perspectives, like a hockey player, 1:01:16.960 --> 1:01:18.760 like I needed to play to get my hands back. 1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:20.480 I couldn't, you know, like I needed to get out 1:01:20.520 --> 1:01:23.200 there and do it. And you know the Fred's point, 1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:27.520 if he's not sharp, maybe just needs to play well. Listen, 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:31.640 I'm I'm I'm all four more reps. Let's not get 1:01:31.720 --> 1:01:34.080 them lit up. No, I don't like he did tonight 1:01:34.160 --> 1:01:37.560 in the first drive. Geez, yeah, I don't want that either, 1:01:37.640 --> 1:01:39.280 But I think there is something to be said for 1:01:39.360 --> 1:01:42.000 getting out there. And and I'm with you, I don't 1:01:42.080 --> 1:01:44.840 know what value there is in the in the joint 1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:47.400 practice this. Matthew Slater didn't seem to think too highly 1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:51.240 when you're fighting, but I think when they were playing, 1:01:51.840 --> 1:01:54.000 you know, in the offense and defense, I think you're 1:01:54.160 --> 1:01:57.440 you're scripting plays, You're getting situations that you want, You're 1:01:57.520 --> 1:02:01.760 calling for certain look, splitz is whatnot. You're you're predetermining 1:02:01.840 --> 1:02:04.000 this with the other coach that you can't do win 1:02:04.040 --> 1:02:06.040 a game like I can't. I don't know what I 1:02:06.120 --> 1:02:09.480 thought tonight, um, and I might be totally wrong on this, 1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.760 but when they had that fumble on the Bledsoew play 1:02:12.880 --> 1:02:15.160 and they overturned it and replayed and the Patriots took 1:02:15.200 --> 1:02:17.160 over in the red zone or close to the red zone, 1:02:17.360 --> 1:02:19.520 and that's when he went from Hoyer to Zappy. I 1:02:19.640 --> 1:02:23.360 wonder if that wasn't the plan that Hoyer, if they like, 1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:25.240 if they had just punted and then it was a 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:27.400 regular drive, maybe it would have been Hoyer. But I 1:02:27.480 --> 1:02:30.160 think that he wanted to see I quick change and 1:02:30.280 --> 1:02:32.120 let's get the let's let the kid have a red 1:02:32.200 --> 1:02:35.040 zone possession. Maybe I don't know. I've seen Bill do 1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:39.160 things like that. It's weird just to give it was 1:02:39.200 --> 1:02:41.040 all right, you're good, But I don't know. Mac Jones 1:02:41.080 --> 1:02:43.280 has got as many reps in the joint practices this 1:02:43.440 --> 1:02:46.840 week as as anybody, and he didn't. He got all yeah, 1:02:47.000 --> 1:02:48.320 I got a lot of work. And how did that 1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:51.360 prep him for some some real you know, close to 1:02:51.480 --> 1:02:54.640 real time game action tonight? I guess not. But but 1:02:54.760 --> 1:02:56.800 your point already. I mean, I found myself thinking about it. 1:02:56.920 --> 1:02:58.920 It's like, Wow, Zapp's played a ton like you know, 1:02:59.120 --> 1:03:01.040 I mean, I feel like he he's done some things 1:03:01.160 --> 1:03:02.640 like you know, you've seen more. I mean, I don't 1:03:02.640 --> 1:03:06.480 want to say for the game one week one. No 1:03:06.560 --> 1:03:09.560 wonder they said it on the blog is no they didn't, 1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:13.240 Yes they did. You need to be ready to be 1:03:13.320 --> 1:03:15.320 ready with the backups. Yeah, all right. Let's see what 1:03:15.400 --> 1:03:17.600 people were saying on the blog that Zappy's better than that, 1:03:18.000 --> 1:03:20.600 where a couple of people say, serious question, would you 1:03:20.680 --> 1:03:24.640 consider starting Zappy in week one? God, yeah, I'm not 1:03:24.720 --> 1:03:31.640 surprised at then. I shouldn't be, but I am. And 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:33.520 I said, I'm gonna take your word for it. That 1:03:33.600 --> 1:03:37.360 this is a serious question. No, okay, good answer, friend, 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:41.680 did you a part head coach Bill Belichick? After tonight's 1:03:41.720 --> 1:03:45.320 win over the Carolina Panthers at your Lette Stadium, here's 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:47.840 the head coach. There's things that we could do better 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:52.080 and clean up. But um, I thought there was progress. 1:03:52.200 --> 1:03:53.680 You know, we had a we had a good week here, 1:03:53.680 --> 1:03:56.120 a couple of good practice days against Carolina and then 1:03:57.000 --> 1:03:58.240 you know some of the guys that didn't get as 1:03:58.320 --> 1:04:00.320 must rest he has many reps in PC. It's got 1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:02.840 more reps um you know tonight. So I think we 1:04:02.960 --> 1:04:04.720 got a good, pretty good look at everybody who look 1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:07.000 at the film here and you know see how things went. 1:04:07.120 --> 1:04:12.560 But um, yeah, another step in the in the process, 1:04:12.800 --> 1:04:16.240 and we'll just keep keep grinding out here. Look forward 1:04:16.240 --> 1:04:18.160 to the week um in Vegas. You know, work with 1:04:18.200 --> 1:04:21.320 the Raiders and uh Josh and the coaching staff out there. 1:04:21.400 --> 1:04:25.040 So it's another opportunity for us to continue to build 1:04:25.080 --> 1:04:29.640 and evaluate our our team. So um, you know, I 1:04:29.680 --> 1:04:31.680 feel like we had a good week here and ready 1:04:31.680 --> 1:04:46.000 for no, hey, don't build good. Um. Mac mac Wilson's 1:04:46.040 --> 1:04:48.440 made a pretty big difference since he's come here. Um, 1:04:48.600 --> 1:04:51.200 how has he looked in the last two preseason games. 1:04:51.280 --> 1:04:56.840 Will you, um, Max really come on? Um, you know 1:04:57.000 --> 1:04:59.720 through the spring and then in preseason when certainly paths 1:04:59.760 --> 1:05:02.960 come on. He's an explosive player, contact player and and uh, 1:05:03.160 --> 1:05:05.000 you know at speed or team on both defense and 1:05:05.040 --> 1:05:08.160 a kicking game. So good to have him. And I 1:05:08.200 --> 1:05:10.040 think he's seeing a little more comfortable out there, you 1:05:10.120 --> 1:05:12.680 know each day each game. Um, you know what the 1:05:12.720 --> 1:05:15.120 guys he's playing with and in our communication, you know 1:05:15.280 --> 1:05:17.920 things like that. So, um, he's been a good addition. 1:05:18.800 --> 1:05:24.960 Thanks Bill. Last week you described the process of finding 1:05:24.960 --> 1:05:26.680 an offensive play call or you said you were in 1:05:26.720 --> 1:05:29.080 the middle of a process. It looked like Matt Petition's 1:05:29.080 --> 1:05:31.240 calling all the place tonight, would you describe that process 1:05:31.520 --> 1:05:35.960 for a sucting someone complete at this point? No, it's 1:05:36.000 --> 1:05:44.919 still a process. Bill over here. Oh sorry, it's okay. 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:48.040 Han On Kendrick Bourne, why why didn't he suit up tonight? 1:05:49.720 --> 1:06:00.920 He's he wasn't available the the third drive off Civilly, Um, 1:06:00.960 --> 1:06:03.440 what did you see that sort of got the offense 1:06:03.480 --> 1:06:07.040 into a better flow than the first two. Well, we 1:06:07.120 --> 1:06:11.600 just missed a couple of plays on the first two. Um. Yeah, 1:06:11.680 --> 1:06:18.760 that's it's football. So I don't think there are really 1:06:18.800 --> 1:06:21.840 any any big problems are just you know, our execution 1:06:22.000 --> 1:06:27.600 and and um, um, just if we don't get that 1:06:27.680 --> 1:06:31.360 first down then obviously it's you know, it's a short drive. 1:06:31.840 --> 1:06:34.560 And just follow up on that. I mean to have 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:38.120 that group cap it off on that third drive? How 1:06:38.200 --> 1:06:41.080 significant is that to just? I guess it was Mac 1:06:41.360 --> 1:06:43.640 some of the players stayed on there. But to have 1:06:43.840 --> 1:06:48.920 his night end on that, Um, how significant? Yeah, you know, 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:51.240 go to strength and plays together. Um. Yeah, we shou 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:52.880 could have done that earlier, but you know it was 1:06:52.920 --> 1:06:59.919 good to good to finally get that done. Hi Bill, 1:07:00.120 --> 1:07:03.880 are you good? Um? As someone who you know very 1:07:03.960 --> 1:07:06.920 much respects special teams in the punting game, how do 1:07:07.000 --> 1:07:12.240 you feel that the special teams fared tonight? Uh? You 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:15.800 know we had our moments. Um. Then do a very 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:18.560 good job in the return game punt return game. That 1:07:18.680 --> 1:07:22.480 trouble with the gunners didn't handle ball well. Anytime you 1:07:22.520 --> 1:07:23.880 don't handle the ball well, you're not kind of a 1:07:23.920 --> 1:07:30.480 good return game. So um, our coverage was was okay. Um, 1:07:31.480 --> 1:07:33.560 you know, made a couple of field goals, missed one, 1:07:34.640 --> 1:07:38.840 so it certainly could be better. Um, And we can 1:07:38.920 --> 1:07:43.840 coach it better. We can execute it better. But the 1:07:44.200 --> 1:07:46.560 put return game is disappointing. We didn't really do anything 1:07:46.680 --> 1:07:49.720 on that. Um you know, got a break when they 1:07:50.440 --> 1:07:52.480 had on sports and laconic penalty and they had a 1:07:52.520 --> 1:07:56.560 fifteen yards onto the last return there. But um, it 1:07:56.600 --> 1:08:01.840 should be better. It needs to be better. Bill, How 1:08:01.880 --> 1:08:05.680 would you describe the communication aspect between play caller and 1:08:05.760 --> 1:08:19.360 quarterback tonight? How I describe it? Normal? Coach co Stringe 1:08:19.360 --> 1:08:21.479 to play will you into the third quarter today? What 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:24.000 do you see from him today? I'm sorry, Coach Strange 1:08:24.439 --> 1:08:28.320 played will into the third quarter today. Well again, for 1:08:28.400 --> 1:08:31.280 all the guys that don't have a lot of experience, 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:33.640 certainly he would fall into that category. Just the more 1:08:33.720 --> 1:08:37.479 playing time, the more opportunity to get, the more they learn, 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:41.000 the more they build their conditioning and and uh, you 1:08:41.080 --> 1:08:45.439 know see different things from the defense. Carolytten did nice 1:08:45.479 --> 1:08:47.360 job tonight and mix some things up with you know, 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:50.000 some pressure or some man pressure, some zone pressure, or 1:08:50.200 --> 1:08:52.559 mix the fronts up. They have a good defensive front, 1:08:53.040 --> 1:08:55.040 which is good for our offensive line to see. I mean, 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:58.240 obviously we had some guys out, but that's that's gave 1:08:58.320 --> 1:09:02.720 some leipular some opportunities and getting the more snaps those 1:09:02.760 --> 1:09:04.519 guys who got, the better they get in a better 1:09:04.640 --> 1:09:07.280 chance we had to evaluate them, and hopefully we'll be 1:09:07.280 --> 1:09:14.080 able to get the get our group together this week, 1:09:14.320 --> 1:09:17.439 you know, in Vegas, and try to play with you know, 1:09:17.520 --> 1:09:20.040 as many players as we can. There were several players 1:09:20.080 --> 1:09:21.479 that you know, we would like to see out there 1:09:21.520 --> 1:09:25.800 tonight that weren't available. So um, that's usually the way 1:09:25.840 --> 1:09:27.760 it is. But sooner we get them back out there, 1:09:28.439 --> 1:09:35.000 the more consistent consistency we'll be able to build. Thanks. Hey, coach, 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:38.200 was Matt Patricia calling the offensive plays the entire game tonight? 1:09:41.080 --> 1:09:44.559 Heat communication of the quarterback? Yeah, as far as calling 1:09:44.600 --> 1:09:46.760 the plays and it's there's a whole other process on that, 1:09:46.920 --> 1:09:52.120 but yeah, oh he did, communicating plays to the quarterback. 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:56.920 That's normal, that's fun. So is the process still between you, 1:09:57.080 --> 1:10:02.840 Joe and Matt when it comes to selecting the plays. No, 1:10:06.120 --> 1:10:08.320 so as it following anyone else where. It's between you three. 1:10:09.360 --> 1:10:18.200 It's process. God. Yeah, Hey, Billy, can you talk about 1:10:18.200 --> 1:10:23.519 what you've seen from little here? Can you talk about 1:10:23.520 --> 1:10:26.439 what you've seen from little Jordan Humphrey throughout training camp 1:10:26.520 --> 1:10:28.240 and tonight looked like he made some good place tonight 1:10:28.280 --> 1:10:30.439 in the passing game. Man in the kicking game. Yeah, 1:10:30.520 --> 1:10:33.599 he's night some plays um for since he's been here. 1:10:33.680 --> 1:10:36.599 And he's a big kid that is tough and has 1:10:36.720 --> 1:10:40.679 very good hands and it's kind of a big receiver 1:10:41.640 --> 1:10:44.800 tight end ish type of guy. Has a good feel, 1:10:44.960 --> 1:10:48.599 very good instincts in the passing game, handles himself, handles 1:10:48.680 --> 1:10:50.240 himself well in the middle of the field, you know, 1:10:50.280 --> 1:10:54.040 with linebackers and under him, over him, in between him, 1:10:54.360 --> 1:10:56.560 kind of you know, does the right thing there and 1:10:57.280 --> 1:11:00.040 helps the quarterback out. And he's a big target and 1:11:00.360 --> 1:11:02.000 you know, we get some tough yards after the catch. 1:11:02.120 --> 1:11:04.800 You know, did a decent job blocking, you know on 1:11:04.880 --> 1:11:07.280 some of the perimeter plays. So um, and to show 1:11:07.360 --> 1:11:09.479 up in the kicking game. So that was a player 1:11:09.520 --> 1:11:11.840 that we got late. Wasn't with us in the spring. 1:11:12.000 --> 1:11:14.920 Signed him in July and um or late June whatever 1:11:14.960 --> 1:11:17.679 it was. Um, you know, it's coming off an injury 1:11:17.720 --> 1:11:20.120 last year. It's come in, really worked hard, and it's 1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:23.320 made a very positive impression here. So UM, I'm glad 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:27.479 we have him. Hi. Billt um Max described some of 1:11:27.560 --> 1:11:30.600 the frustration he's had, you know, to date in the 1:11:30.720 --> 1:11:34.240 preseason and training camp. Do you feel like, confidence wise, 1:11:34.400 --> 1:11:36.639 he needed to see the type of success he saw 1:11:37.040 --> 1:11:40.040 on that third drive or is that not related to 1:11:40.120 --> 1:11:43.960 his growth? I mean, it's always nice to do well, 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:48.320 that's always good, But I don't think mac lack's confidence. No, 1:11:49.000 --> 1:11:55.800 that's a question. Hey, Bill, Um, understanding you don't want 1:11:55.840 --> 1:11:59.240 to tell us much about the offensive play calling situation here. However, 1:11:59.360 --> 1:12:04.120 said that, how many don't put words in my mouth? 1:12:04.200 --> 1:12:07.880 I never said that. I'm not quoting you. I'm just cleena. 1:12:08.520 --> 1:12:11.679 It's trying to get the record straight here. Naturally. How 1:12:11.880 --> 1:12:18.960 aware or not aware are your offensive players about this process? 1:12:20.000 --> 1:12:35.960 I don't know, then, Bill. With Kendrick Bourne, do you 1:12:36.160 --> 1:12:41.240 anticipate him being available in Vegas this week? I expect 1:12:42.479 --> 1:12:44.800 probably all of our players to be available this week, 1:12:44.920 --> 1:12:51.160 with um maybe the exception of Wilkerson. So we'll see 1:12:51.160 --> 1:12:52.840 what happened, you know, unless somebody walks in with something 1:12:52.880 --> 1:12:55.479 here today. But I think that we should be pretty 1:12:55.680 --> 1:12:59.160 pretty close with everybody hopefully, so we'll see that goes 1:12:59.720 --> 1:13:05.960 all right? Thank you, all right, and we thank Microsoft 1:13:06.040 --> 1:13:10.360 for that. Our sponsor, Microsoft Surface, the official sideline technology 1:13:10.479 --> 1:13:13.200 provider and laptop of the NFL in the New England 1:13:13.280 --> 1:13:15.960 Patriots provides players and coaches with the tools to succeed 1:13:16.080 --> 1:13:18.160 both on and off the field. Check out the powerful 1:13:18.520 --> 1:13:20.800 surface pro way, combining the power of a laptop with 1:13:20.920 --> 1:13:23.920 the flexibility of a tablet at surface dot com. Do 1:13:24.080 --> 1:13:27.160 not put words into the mouth of head coach Bill Belichick. 1:13:27.200 --> 1:13:29.599 I think it's funny. You know, I never said that. Well, 1:13:29.720 --> 1:13:31.320 you know, but well last week he told me not 1:13:31.400 --> 1:13:36.840 to worry about it, which is real quick though, and 1:13:36.920 --> 1:13:39.000 I had mentioned that last quote that he had about 1:13:39.560 --> 1:13:41.680 I expect all the players to be available next week, 1:13:41.720 --> 1:13:45.640 with the maybe the exception of Wilkerson. UM kind of 1:13:45.680 --> 1:13:49.160 missed it, like the lead there Thornton. He expects Thornton 1:13:49.240 --> 1:13:52.160 to be available next week, unless it slipped his mind. Yeah, yeah, 1:13:52.800 --> 1:13:54.519 it could have. And I that let me to kind 1:13:54.560 --> 1:13:56.040 of jump into Twitter right now just to see if 1:13:56.040 --> 1:14:01.000 anybody had reported anything. Nobody of substance saying anything, but 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:05.040 some rumors that that it might have just been a stinger. Um, 1:14:05.240 --> 1:14:08.800 not from reliable sources, but people who you know, maybe 1:14:08.840 --> 1:14:10.680 you're I just think that if it was something that 1:14:10.720 --> 1:14:13.720 they were fearing was significant, I don't think he would 1:14:13.760 --> 1:14:15.920 have said I expect everybody to be available next week, 1:14:15.960 --> 1:14:18.840 with maybe the exception of Wilkerson. I just think between Mac, 1:14:18.960 --> 1:14:21.680 him and Barmore, those three, like I just I'd love 1:14:21.720 --> 1:14:23.240 to get a full season out of those three, Like 1:14:23.320 --> 1:14:26.000 those young guys who were really promising and exciting. It's 1:14:26.000 --> 1:14:28.000 just a buzz kill when you get a guy. Yeah, 1:14:28.000 --> 1:14:32.120 I hate enjoyment. I hate intentionally be out the one thing. 1:14:32.200 --> 1:14:34.160 Just very quickly, he was asked about, you know, the 1:14:34.240 --> 1:14:36.559 play calling, and you know was it? Was it Matt 1:14:36.640 --> 1:14:40.479 Patricia calling the players? Denied? He said, no, no, okay 1:14:40.600 --> 1:14:42.840 was he? Was he the one, He's the one communicating 1:14:42.880 --> 1:14:46.080 to the quarterback? Okay, yes, Well there's a far bigger 1:14:46.160 --> 1:14:48.439 process than that. It's no, it's a process. Is it 1:14:48.640 --> 1:14:53.960 you Matt and Joe Judge deciding on the play call? No? 1:14:54.280 --> 1:14:58.920 Based on that? No, well, he said, no, he did. 1:15:00.000 --> 1:15:03.479 I have to pass words there because like not maybe 1:15:03.560 --> 1:15:05.720 not on every play, you know what I mean? So 1:15:07.640 --> 1:15:11.680 I think that they're all involved. He just said, no, 1:15:11.880 --> 1:15:14.439 I'm I'm taking the words out of his mouth. He 1:15:14.560 --> 1:15:17.400 was asked, he said, is the process you Matt and 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:24.880 Joe calling the plays? No? I have to see how 1:15:25.000 --> 1:15:27.519 I would have to know how he interpreted the question, 1:15:28.640 --> 1:15:30.800 you know, because I do think that all of them 1:15:30.880 --> 1:15:36.280 are saying something, you know, between plays. Oh well, Joe 1:15:36.360 --> 1:15:38.639 and Matt were saying plenty to each other after those 1:15:38.680 --> 1:15:41.639 first two offensive series they were huddled around that surface 1:15:41.680 --> 1:15:44.880 pro on the side. Well, and I didn't meant I 1:15:44.920 --> 1:15:47.200 didn't see this guy. I asked you, guys, I asked 1:15:47.240 --> 1:15:50.519 you when Evan during the game, like when on those 1:15:50.600 --> 1:15:53.920 three series when Matt came off, like, who was was 1:15:54.040 --> 1:15:57.000 anyone sitting next to him? Like I was looking and 1:15:57.120 --> 1:15:59.080 I did not see anyone sitting next to him. It 1:15:59.240 --> 1:16:03.240 was Matt and Joe talking to me that that's not good. 1:16:03.800 --> 1:16:06.240 I agree, Yeah, I think that there should be somebody 1:16:06.280 --> 1:16:10.120 immediately talking to him about what they saw and asking Mac, 1:16:10.200 --> 1:16:13.519 what did you see? I don't think that. I think 1:16:13.600 --> 1:16:17.960 that's something that's missing right now. All right, let's i'll 1:16:18.000 --> 1:16:20.400 step aside here briefly. We'll come back and we're going 1:16:20.439 --> 1:16:22.120 to hear from Mac Jones here in a little bit, 1:16:22.840 --> 1:16:26.960 as the Patriots postgame show continues. 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Here's Hardy. It's the Patriots postgame Show 1:19:59.160 --> 1:20:02.400 presented by I Have a Reason. It's Hardy, Mike to 1:20:02.520 --> 1:20:05.439 sell Fred Kirsh and of course Paul Peroo, the man 1:20:05.479 --> 1:20:08.160 who is everywhere tonight, He's on the he's on the 1:20:08.280 --> 1:20:12.639 TV set, he's on he's on the innerwebs. He's everywhere. 1:20:13.080 --> 1:20:15.280 It's amazing and and a great job on TV. I'm 1:20:15.320 --> 1:20:19.479 really starting to enjoy that TV part. You're good at it. 1:20:19.600 --> 1:20:21.600 I really, I kind of really like it. You just 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:23.640 stand there and talk like three times of games. Got 1:20:23.720 --> 1:20:26.280 the bug? It's got the bug. It's too bad that 1:20:26.360 --> 1:20:29.200 I'm I'm an old Hollywood like the olds don't do 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:32.240 well on TV. Like Lester Bangs said, you got starry eyes, 1:20:32.280 --> 1:20:36.080 my friend, it's gonna be Matt, like Matt Laurie's gonna 1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:38.479 have that button in his desk to lock the door. 1:20:39.360 --> 1:20:43.120 Oh Matt, who Matt lower. You have to learn how 1:20:43.160 --> 1:20:46.720 to speak for you know, there's a lot of by 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:48.000 the way, there's a lot of things you can make 1:20:48.040 --> 1:20:49.360 fun like do you have to call me like a 1:20:49.560 --> 1:20:54.240 sexual predator? Is it? Is it Viscano or Visciano? Is 1:20:57.280 --> 1:21:01.160 it Viscano? I think yeah, because O you know the 1:21:01.400 --> 1:21:03.760 PA guy was they didn't have the pan. It's not 1:21:03.840 --> 1:21:07.640 on there. I was operating with. I was operating with 1:21:07.680 --> 1:21:10.519 the belief I wouldn't have to learn his name. Yeah, well, 1:21:10.560 --> 1:21:12.400 I think I think you're right about that, after he 1:21:13.120 --> 1:21:15.080 missed his boat as badly as you can from fifty 1:21:15.160 --> 1:21:19.800 three yards. Yeah, this Guano and I do that same 1:21:19.920 --> 1:21:23.360 name is reasonably common in Major League Baseball, and that's 1:21:23.360 --> 1:21:27.080 how they right. Who is the famous one? Jose Jose 1:21:27.280 --> 1:21:32.200 Viscano be a good show for Eric. Oh god, he would, 1:21:33.080 --> 1:21:50.280 he would so correct my Sorry Eric, Robin Melbourne, Austria, 1:21:51.479 --> 1:21:54.439 He says, with Bourne's bad camp and some of the 1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:58.200 younger receivers flashing, could Burn be cut or traded before 1:21:58.240 --> 1:22:03.120 this season? Cheers rule nothing out except for the the 1:22:03.240 --> 1:22:06.360 young receivers like pushing him off the like that it's 1:22:06.400 --> 1:22:09.640 not a case his job. Something is happening with him 1:22:09.720 --> 1:22:12.839 that he's putting his own status on the team in jeopardy. 1:22:12.920 --> 1:22:15.320 I would agree with that. I don't. I don't argue that. 1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:18.120 Like I said, I rule nothing out with Bill, but 1:22:19.560 --> 1:22:22.479 he's not gonna let that. That has got this This 1:22:22.640 --> 1:22:25.719 Trey Nixon is really pushing Kendrick Borne off the roster 1:22:26.080 --> 1:22:29.559 or little Jordan Huntley tonight. I just no, those guys 1:22:29.600 --> 1:22:32.719 are clearly a notch below. Yeah, it's I mean, it's Thornton. 1:22:32.800 --> 1:22:34.560 I mean it seems like they want to play a 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:36.280 lot of two tight ends too. I mean that seems 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:38.080 more like it's going to be more in the plan. So, 1:22:38.120 --> 1:22:41.200 I mean, you can't have five wide receivers two top 1:22:41.280 --> 1:22:43.599 tight ends. I mean, they're just not so. When Bill 1:22:43.680 --> 1:22:45.920 says pretty much everyone's going to be available, is that 1:22:46.000 --> 1:22:49.479 include Hunter Henry? I mean I would hope so, I 1:22:49.520 --> 1:22:51.479 would think. I mean, I mean, based on what I 1:22:51.520 --> 1:22:54.040 think Jeff Howard reported, it sounded like it's uh could 1:22:54.080 --> 1:22:58.479 be anything from a twisted ankle to a twenty ACL. 1:23:00.080 --> 1:23:03.360 He's expected to be back sometime between tomorrow and the 1:23:03.520 --> 1:23:08.439 end of his life. Right. Uh. Here's an interesting one, Um, 1:23:09.000 --> 1:23:11.320 when is part of the problem? This is from Todd 1:23:11.360 --> 1:23:15.320 and Greenville, North Carolina. Todd, I think that Mac is 1:23:15.360 --> 1:23:18.160 too focused looking for where the pressure is coming from. 1:23:18.640 --> 1:23:21.280 When is part of the problem, because I'm not sure 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:25.160 his body can handle it anymore. I don't know when 1:23:25.200 --> 1:23:26.599 hasn't been out there for a while. I was gonna 1:23:26.640 --> 1:23:29.479 say where he's not part of the problem tonight. I mean, 1:23:29.560 --> 1:23:35.760 I'm his streak of absolutely baffling me, but just I mean, 1:23:35.800 --> 1:23:38.720 I would say generally, I don't think Mac looks, you know, comfortable. Yeah, 1:23:38.760 --> 1:23:40.320 I don't know if that means you guys are kind 1:23:40.360 --> 1:23:42.720 of convincing me that maybe he does need more, um 1:23:43.520 --> 1:23:46.880 more reps in game action, because maybe that's I just 1:23:46.960 --> 1:23:49.599 don't know if it's though, Like I mean, it sounds 1:23:49.640 --> 1:23:54.320 great in theory, but I just I don't I'm stuck 1:23:54.400 --> 1:23:57.200 wondering what does season really mean? When you know, when 1:23:57.240 --> 1:23:59.880 you've got when you've got the red jersey on you 1:24:00.080 --> 1:24:02.519 and you know you can't be hit, that has to 1:24:02.640 --> 1:24:05.200 be a different feeling than when you know you could 1:24:05.280 --> 1:24:08.200 get leveled for sure, you know, because I was thinking 1:24:08.400 --> 1:24:11.720 that he'll play maybe a similar amount next week that 1:24:11.800 --> 1:24:14.120 he did this week, you know, like fifteen twenty snaps 1:24:14.360 --> 1:24:16.559 and what do you have sixteen tonight? We figured out 1:24:16.640 --> 1:24:20.479 two three and out and play touchdown. Yeah, so, um, 1:24:20.720 --> 1:24:22.439 I mean if he came in and it looked pretty good, 1:24:22.520 --> 1:24:24.960 I probably wouldn't really care if he played the same 1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:28.360 amount of snaps but the same drives, you know, but 1:24:28.560 --> 1:24:30.600 he played better and they moved They just moved the 1:24:30.640 --> 1:24:32.880 ball a little bit more consistently, even if even if 1:24:32.920 --> 1:24:35.280 it flamed out. I mean I might feel, you know, 1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:38.960 slightly better about that. But the offensive line, would you know, 1:24:39.040 --> 1:24:40.760 and you're gonna make fun of me. I'm opening the 1:24:40.800 --> 1:24:41.960 door for you to take a shot at me. But 1:24:41.960 --> 1:24:44.840 I would feel better if like Trent Brown and you know, 1:24:45.040 --> 1:24:47.479 was out there, um, and you don't have a win, 1:24:47.560 --> 1:24:52.280 you play and tackle right. I mean I worried me 1:24:52.320 --> 1:24:54.280 a little bit tonight with him back there. Yeah, you 1:24:54.400 --> 1:24:56.639 wanted to coming out as night off, the night off, 1:24:56.720 --> 1:24:58.600 they had the night off. You want me, you know, 1:24:58.640 --> 1:25:00.200 I ask him to come in his night it off. 1:25:00.680 --> 1:25:03.800 I don't in the union, you know gets he gets 1:25:03.880 --> 1:25:06.320 this day off. I don't understand his birthday. I don't 1:25:06.400 --> 1:25:09.880 understand it. I don't buy it. Like I believe that 1:25:10.000 --> 1:25:11.920 someone Karen is the best in the business. He's a 1:25:12.080 --> 1:25:15.720 tremendous reporter. I believe that someone told her something like that. 1:25:16.520 --> 1:25:18.320 I don't believe that he just got the night off. 1:25:19.840 --> 1:25:22.479 I don't believe that's accurate information from whoever told me. 1:25:22.720 --> 1:25:25.400 When you first said it, I thought would really be 1:25:25.520 --> 1:25:27.840 safe with him, because you're already limited on the tackle 1:25:27.920 --> 1:25:29.759 depth and you lose him and now you're really screwed. 1:25:30.400 --> 1:25:34.400 But still we could tell your stories, Fred, and I 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:36.479 believe me, we can tell your stories. Going back of 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:40.640 how adamant he is about having everybody part. You know, 1:25:41.040 --> 1:25:43.680 everybody needs to prepare as if they're playing in the game. 1:25:44.360 --> 1:25:47.479 That's his basic rule of thumb, right. And there was 1:25:47.600 --> 1:25:50.479 one year, and it was a million years ago where 1:25:50.520 --> 1:25:53.240 there was about twenty guys on the sideline wearing their 1:25:53.400 --> 1:25:56.920 game jerseys but not in uniform, and it was like 1:25:57.320 --> 1:25:59.479 a cocktail party. Was a real bad look and it 1:25:59.560 --> 1:26:00.960 was a bad and he never did it. Was not 1:26:01.080 --> 1:26:03.400 happy and they've never done it again. Yeah, Dan Campbell 1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:06.160 doesn't like that either. I watched which I was laughing 1:26:06.160 --> 1:26:07.600 because he was getting a lot of static for it. 1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:10.000 I was like, Bill feels exactly the same way. Yeah, 1:26:10.120 --> 1:26:12.760 I thought that butt was funny. And yeah, the latest episode, well, 1:26:12.800 --> 1:26:15.519 a lot of people have compared Dan Campbell to Bill Belichick, 1:26:15.600 --> 1:26:17.400 and I think they're right to do that. Well, I 1:26:17.760 --> 1:26:20.640 know when you're very excited about did you watch I 1:26:20.680 --> 1:26:22.720 haven't watched the I heard that. I heard the most 1:26:22.800 --> 1:26:25.560 recent episode is not as good as the first one. No, no, 1:26:26.080 --> 1:26:29.080 but that Amon Ross Saint Brown, remember him the receiver. 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:33.200 He rattled off like the psycho taken ahead of him. 1:26:33.200 --> 1:26:36.600 And you meet his dad too, as a former mister Olympius. 1:26:36.680 --> 1:26:39.360 I mean, and he's just like talking about how serious 1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:42.760 his kids are about Tibar show, uh lifting weights, you know, 1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:44.320 and they're all lifting weights and you know, and he's like, 1:26:44.400 --> 1:26:46.800 look at them, they ain't talking, they're serious, like like 1:26:46.920 --> 1:26:49.920 they're just obsessed, right like ten year old. Yeah. I 1:26:49.960 --> 1:26:53.160 mean maybe even now they're still like it. But he's, uh, yeah, 1:26:53.200 --> 1:26:55.840 he's an intense guy. It's good. I'm enjoying it. Let's 1:26:55.880 --> 1:27:01.760 go to Kakar and Jacksonville. What's going on? Hey, I 1:27:01.880 --> 1:27:05.960 just had a quick question about what the process and 1:27:06.680 --> 1:27:09.679 I'm sticking tired of hearing Bill talk about the process. 1:27:11.800 --> 1:27:13.760 I was just wondering what your guys thoughts are on 1:27:14.560 --> 1:27:18.520 what this offensive game plan is. It's the new buzzword 1:27:18.600 --> 1:27:21.519 for Training Camp twenty twenty two. Process. I mean that 1:27:21.800 --> 1:27:24.040 you can't possibly expect us to know what the process 1:27:24.240 --> 1:27:26.840 is to you? Well, no, but don't put words in 1:27:26.880 --> 1:27:29.000 the coach's mouth either. I mean it's that there's that. Yeah, 1:27:29.040 --> 1:27:31.240 there's a lot of dancing around, a lot of great question. 1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:34.439 I just don't have an answer. Yeah, because they're gonna 1:27:34.439 --> 1:27:36.599 get him one of these days. It looks like Matt 1:27:36.640 --> 1:27:40.519 Patricia will be the one communicating with the quarterback. Yeah, 1:27:41.160 --> 1:27:43.599 as to what he's communicating, maybe it comes from Bill. 1:27:43.880 --> 1:27:46.400 Perhaps at times, what's the name of that place that 1:27:46.520 --> 1:27:51.080 you want to go to, the Mexican place, Roberto Robertos. 1:27:51.160 --> 1:27:53.680 Maybe he's giving his Roberto Roberto's out of order to 1:27:54.000 --> 1:27:56.360 Somebody asked a good question tonight that I didn't know 1:27:56.479 --> 1:27:59.760 the answer to. Who is now Bill's Ernie Adams up 1:27:59.800 --> 1:28:03.800 in the booth? Is it Matt Grow? Like, who's the 1:28:03.880 --> 1:28:07.160 person up there? I think Matt Grows probably guess I'm 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:11.960 gonna guess Evan Rothstein. No, Yeah, that's not you're right, 1:28:12.080 --> 1:28:14.640 that's his name. You're right, that right, you're right. But 1:28:14.760 --> 1:28:16.640 that's a big jump. I mean, can you imagine going 1:28:16.680 --> 1:28:18.800 from Ernie Adams and Matt Patricia, two guys that you've 1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:21.360 known for a long time, and now you got some 1:28:21.560 --> 1:28:23.960 kid from Detroit who's been here two years and he's 1:28:23.960 --> 1:28:26.360 the one like, Yeah, I just think he's more of 1:28:26.400 --> 1:28:28.880 an analytical kind of guy, and he might be good 1:28:28.960 --> 1:28:30.760 with and and and I mean it's time it's worth 1:28:30.840 --> 1:28:33.080 pointing out. When they all got COVID in Detroit, he 1:28:33.200 --> 1:28:38.760 like snapping, who is this shut up by the way 1:28:38.880 --> 1:28:42.880 great challenge by Bill tonight. That was that was that 1:28:43.000 --> 1:28:44.920 was That was a really close one. I thought, I 1:28:45.040 --> 1:28:46.800 thought live it was a fumble, and I thought it 1:28:46.880 --> 1:28:48.240 was a good overturn. What don't you guys think? I 1:28:48.280 --> 1:28:50.000 saw him going great. I saw him going for the 1:28:50.040 --> 1:28:52.280 sock and I was like, Oh, it's happening, It's happening. 1:28:52.320 --> 1:28:54.000 And then I just was laughing to imagine him every 1:28:54.040 --> 1:28:56.280 pregame going through that process of having a stuff that 1:28:56.360 --> 1:28:58.360 thing into his sock, Like that has to be part 1:28:58.400 --> 1:29:00.880 of his pregame routine that he gets the flag. That's like, 1:29:01.120 --> 1:29:04.360 that thing's gotta be night tonight, it's another one that 1:29:04.439 --> 1:29:06.160 bucks me. That thing's got to be in your pocket 1:29:06.240 --> 1:29:08.960 like anybody else, and it's gotta be gamy coming out 1:29:09.000 --> 1:29:12.360 of the game, almost like annoying. You ever had something 1:29:12.439 --> 1:29:15.599 in your sock for a whole game? I don't. As 1:29:15.640 --> 1:29:18.200 a kid, I remember like we brought our bikes up 1:29:18.240 --> 1:29:20.840 to the convenience store and you would stick like you know, 1:29:20.960 --> 1:29:23.720 your your dollar, your money and into the sock and 1:29:23.800 --> 1:29:26.080 with a with a back in my day, get a quarter. 1:29:26.760 --> 1:29:28.760 With a dollar, you could get yourself a can of 1:29:28.840 --> 1:29:31.800 soda pop and a candy bar. But you know you 1:29:31.880 --> 1:29:33.720 had to fold up that dollar and put it in there. 1:29:33.920 --> 1:29:37.240 Sweaty it would get but it really got bad when 1:29:37.280 --> 1:29:39.040 you got the change. Oh yeah. And then as you 1:29:39.439 --> 1:29:42.200 go down into the had good socks you could probably 1:29:42.320 --> 1:29:45.160 keep like a dollar fifty up high in your sock 1:29:46.800 --> 1:29:48.760 once you stuck getting your socks a little stretched out. 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:51.200 Now the change is down around your toes somewhere. It's 1:29:51.240 --> 1:29:53.479 just not it's not what we're looking for. Dollar fifty 1:29:53.600 --> 1:29:57.679 rich kid over to get around. I had a paper round. Okay, 1:29:57.880 --> 1:30:00.200 all right, I worked for that money. I understand. Who's 1:30:00.200 --> 1:30:02.080 the guy up in the booth? Who is it? Ros? 1:30:02.360 --> 1:30:05.400 We don't know. We're sort of guessing him. A guy 1:30:05.479 --> 1:30:07.400 named Evan. You should know him from Detroit. He was 1:30:07.439 --> 1:30:09.960 the offensive coordinate, I thought in the famous game against 1:30:10.360 --> 1:30:15.479 Tampa when Sam Rothstein, who is the food beverage manager, 1:30:15.760 --> 1:30:18.280 They kept changing his title, so you moved the application 1:30:18.400 --> 1:30:20.519 back down to the bottom of the pile. They guy's 1:30:20.520 --> 1:30:22.960 working there ten years. They don't have a license about Vegas? 1:30:23.720 --> 1:30:28.519 How Vegas, baby? How about the quarterback from tonight mac Well, 1:30:28.600 --> 1:30:31.280 I say, the quarterback, the guy who got the start 1:30:31.360 --> 1:30:35.519 and got a what a series and three change three 1:30:35.640 --> 1:30:39.040 series total. All right, did not play um the entire 1:30:39.120 --> 1:30:41.880 first half, but it was it was enough for him 1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:43.800 to go out there and do a little something something, 1:30:44.000 --> 1:30:46.880 Mac Jones, let's hear from him in his post game 1:30:46.960 --> 1:30:51.960 right now, that third drive for you to come out 1:30:52.000 --> 1:30:54.920 of here feeling on in a good spot. Yeah, it was, 1:30:55.880 --> 1:30:58.200 you know, a little bit of a rocky star, but 1:30:58.320 --> 1:30:59.840 that's kind of how it goes when you haven't played 1:30:59.880 --> 1:31:01.920 for a little bit and you just got to continue 1:31:01.960 --> 1:31:04.760 to play. And you know, the guys on our team, 1:31:05.439 --> 1:31:08.719 we came together, kind of operated, didn't freak out or anything, 1:31:08.880 --> 1:31:11.479 just carry on and get our mojo back and keep 1:31:11.520 --> 1:31:14.439 everything going forward. So it was a good drive. And 1:31:15.040 --> 1:31:16.880 you know, the game is sixty minutes, and right now 1:31:17.320 --> 1:31:18.760 a lot of the younger guys are getting a chance 1:31:18.800 --> 1:31:21.400 to play, which is great. So we understand how long 1:31:21.439 --> 1:31:23.400 a sixty minute game is. And I think that was 1:31:23.439 --> 1:31:26.240 a good learning lesson of all right, let's keep playing here, 1:31:26.280 --> 1:31:29.519 and you know, when we get into the season, we'll 1:31:29.560 --> 1:31:31.800 have a lot of chances to play those games out 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:34.200 and continue to grow. Whether it was a good first 1:31:34.280 --> 1:31:40.120 drive or not, Mac, what have you noticed is the 1:31:40.160 --> 1:31:43.200 biggest difference between playing as a rookie and entering a 1:31:43.360 --> 1:31:46.000 game as someone with a year under their belt. Yeah, 1:31:46.040 --> 1:31:49.800 I think you know, as a rookie, you're out there 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:52.880 just trying to do your job and play your role 1:31:52.960 --> 1:31:55.040 and kind of just do exactly what you're supposed to do. 1:31:55.120 --> 1:31:57.680 And now with a little bit of freedom and a 1:31:57.800 --> 1:32:00.880 little bit of more experience, is obviously good. But at 1:32:00.880 --> 1:32:02.519 the end of the day, it's football, and it's the 1:32:02.560 --> 1:32:04.639 same game that we've all been playing since we were little, 1:32:04.680 --> 1:32:07.200 and it was just good to get back out there. 1:32:07.240 --> 1:32:09.120 And I know it's a long season ahead, so it 1:32:09.200 --> 1:32:11.360 was good to get the feet wet again and continue 1:32:11.360 --> 1:32:15.120 to grow from that. Mac You're scoring drive one across 1:32:15.160 --> 1:32:17.000 the end of the first and into the early in 1:32:17.040 --> 1:32:19.000 the second quarter. Was the original plan for you just 1:32:19.120 --> 1:32:21.800 to play the first quarter and then sit out the 1:32:21.840 --> 1:32:24.120 rest of the game. Or did Bill and Matt talk 1:32:24.160 --> 1:32:26.360 to you and say, we want you to finish this ulf, 1:32:26.400 --> 1:32:28.800 we want you to score on this drive. Um, there 1:32:28.920 --> 1:32:31.120 wasn't any like timetable or anything. I just knew I 1:32:31.160 --> 1:32:33.880 was going to get a chance to play, so I 1:32:33.960 --> 1:32:37.080 just went out there and did that. And like I said, 1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:39.000 it's it's a preseason, so we want to get a 1:32:39.040 --> 1:32:42.320 lot of players looks and stuff. And you know, I 1:32:42.360 --> 1:32:44.640 got a chance to go out there and work with 1:32:44.680 --> 1:32:46.880 the offense and kind of get everybody on the same 1:32:46.920 --> 1:32:51.800 page here, and that's what it's all about. Can you 1:32:51.840 --> 1:32:54.479 take us through the past play with Nelson? You guys 1:32:54.520 --> 1:32:56.200 have obviously hit a few of those in practice, and 1:32:56.400 --> 1:32:57.840 you know how nice does it feel to hit it 1:32:57.920 --> 1:32:59.680 in the game? Yeah, it was good. I think it 1:32:59.800 --> 1:33:02.840 was a good play call and he went up and 1:33:02.920 --> 1:33:04.479 made a good play and I had plenty of time 1:33:04.560 --> 1:33:06.760 to throw it, and you know by that time, we're 1:33:07.479 --> 1:33:08.840 you know, moving the ball a little bit. So that 1:33:08.960 --> 1:33:11.160 was a good explosive play for a touchdown and drive 1:33:11.240 --> 1:33:15.120 and that's important for you know, putting points on the board. 1:33:15.200 --> 1:33:18.240 So it was a good catch too make along the 1:33:18.320 --> 1:33:20.200 line of the question that was just dashed about the 1:33:20.360 --> 1:33:22.920 continuing drive between the first quarter and the second quarter. 1:33:23.360 --> 1:33:25.080 At the end of the first quarter, I noticed you 1:33:25.880 --> 1:33:27.720 go buy the bench, not to talk to anybody, and 1:33:27.760 --> 1:33:29.519 grab a ball start working out. Was that in New 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:31.679 York mind, you didn't want to talk talk to anybody 1:33:31.680 --> 1:33:33.720 about coming out. You wanted to stay in. You just 1:33:33.760 --> 1:33:35.280 didn't feel we wanted to talk in order to make 1:33:35.320 --> 1:33:38.120 sure you stayed in. Oh, I have no idea. I 1:33:38.200 --> 1:33:40.160 just I knew I was going in. You know, they 1:33:40.200 --> 1:33:41.960 didn't tell me I was out yet. So I just 1:33:42.080 --> 1:33:45.120 always do that before any drive, throw a couple of 1:33:45.160 --> 1:33:47.800 passes five or six, and then when I feel good, 1:33:48.720 --> 1:33:50.360 I know I'm ready for the next drive. So I've 1:33:50.400 --> 1:33:52.439 done that since I was five years old, and I'll 1:33:52.479 --> 1:33:57.719 continue to do that. Mac. Oh, I have a question 1:33:57.800 --> 1:34:00.680 about the scramble play before the touchdown UM in the 1:34:00.720 --> 1:34:04.840 second quarter. Was that designed play or if not, what 1:34:04.920 --> 1:34:07.439 did you see that you know set you off? Um? No, 1:34:07.520 --> 1:34:09.599 it was not designed. It was just a pass play, 1:34:09.640 --> 1:34:13.759 and yeah there's people open, but they played very soft 1:34:13.840 --> 1:34:16.240 off So I just kind of found my way and 1:34:16.360 --> 1:34:21.880 got positive yards and got down. Mac. It seemed like 1:34:22.000 --> 1:34:25.439 last week. There's a picture in your locker from that 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:28.479 Bill's playoff game at the end of last season. When 1:34:28.520 --> 1:34:30.960 you see that, when you see that photo every day 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:34.519 coming into the facility, what does that do for you? Yeah, 1:34:34.560 --> 1:34:37.759 I've always been a big fan of like having motivation 1:34:37.840 --> 1:34:42.200 stuff in your locker. Um, and my dad, actually, the 1:34:42.560 --> 1:34:44.920 two things that he's always showed me is the poem 1:34:45.000 --> 1:34:47.680 Man in the Arena and If by Roger Kipling, So 1:34:48.160 --> 1:34:49.920 those are the two that are more important to me. 1:34:50.360 --> 1:34:54.040 But um, I've always done that, and you know that's 1:34:54.120 --> 1:34:57.680 last year. But I think it's motivation to just come 1:34:57.720 --> 1:35:00.599 in here and work every day. And I do love 1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:03.519 the two poems a lot. So that that's a big 1:35:03.560 --> 1:35:06.479 shot out to my dad because he kind of gave 1:35:06.560 --> 1:35:08.840 me those when I was probably like six years old 1:35:09.360 --> 1:35:11.519 and kind of explained everything to me, and then as 1:35:11.600 --> 1:35:16.479 I grew I continue to just enjoy that. Actually, the 1:35:16.640 --> 1:35:19.320 IF poem is in Wimbledon, so that's where he learned 1:35:19.320 --> 1:35:22.400 about it, in the locker room in Wimbledon, So it's 1:35:22.439 --> 1:35:26.200 pretty cool. Man. It seems like the offense has made 1:35:26.240 --> 1:35:29.040 progress in terms of just communication with each other on 1:35:29.120 --> 1:35:32.080 the field. How would you characterize the press the communication 1:35:32.280 --> 1:35:34.280 tonight in the game set? Yeah, it was good. I think, 1:35:34.800 --> 1:35:38.320 just kind of a different perspective in the preseason. Obviously 1:35:38.439 --> 1:35:41.680 not playing every snap, so it's cool to see the 1:35:41.840 --> 1:35:45.000 game from a different perspective and listening to the coaches 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:47.360 and help the young guys. You know, I like to 1:35:47.439 --> 1:35:49.439 let them play and do their thing because that's how 1:35:49.439 --> 1:35:51.080 I kind of like to be too is just go 1:35:51.200 --> 1:35:54.120 out there and play and then save the tape for 1:35:54.400 --> 1:35:56.679 the game film, you know, the next day or whatever. 1:35:56.760 --> 1:35:59.599 But I can always give tips. And the communication between 1:35:59.640 --> 1:36:02.680 the coach and assistant coaches was great. I think that 1:36:02.880 --> 1:36:04.560 is something that we've made a lot of progress in 1:36:05.200 --> 1:36:09.479 just positive next play mentality, you know, versus maybe dwelling 1:36:09.479 --> 1:36:15.760 a little bit mac first game where you have matt 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:19.000 Patricia in your year cong plays, Joe Judge helping out 1:36:19.040 --> 1:36:21.559 an offense with in game action. How is that having 1:36:21.640 --> 1:36:24.519 them kind of coach you up and how excited did 1:36:24.520 --> 1:36:26.560 that just get you for the regular season? Yeah, I 1:36:26.720 --> 1:36:30.360 think Mattie's done a great job. He's one of the 1:36:30.439 --> 1:36:33.000 most brilliant people I've ever been around in terms of 1:36:33.040 --> 1:36:36.720 football knowledge. So you know, between all the coaches we have, 1:36:36.880 --> 1:36:40.240 they've done a great job preparing us. And he's really 1:36:40.280 --> 1:36:42.600 starting in a feel forward and that's the thing is 1:36:42.640 --> 1:36:45.479 just growing each week and making sure that we can stack, 1:36:45.760 --> 1:36:48.960 you know, good days together. And he's very easy to 1:36:49.000 --> 1:36:51.240 talk to you on the sideline, very easy, laid back 1:36:51.360 --> 1:36:54.720 kind of type coach, but demands a lot and I 1:36:54.840 --> 1:36:58.000 respect that about him and hopefully we can grow for 1:36:58.520 --> 1:37:05.200 for a long time working with Little Jordan Huntrees since 1:37:05.240 --> 1:37:07.720 he came over a couple months ago. Yeah, I think, um, 1:37:08.280 --> 1:37:12.200 Lj's a beast. And when he got signed here, I 1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:14.760 remember I texted him and asked him if he wanted 1:37:14.760 --> 1:37:17.840 to come catch and he immediately responded and found a 1:37:17.880 --> 1:37:19.200 way to make it out to where we were and 1:37:19.560 --> 1:37:22.599 came to our throwing sessions. So he's a grinder. He's 1:37:22.640 --> 1:37:25.400 a big dude. He's great on special teams too, So 1:37:25.920 --> 1:37:28.400 we have great receivers and um, it's great to see 1:37:28.439 --> 1:37:30.200 them all get a chance to catch the ball and run. 1:37:30.280 --> 1:37:32.960 And he's a big body type receiver and that's a 1:37:33.000 --> 1:37:37.320 good addition for us. Cool. Thanks, See guys, all right, 1:37:37.360 --> 1:37:42.280 there's Mac Jones who does not sound healthy. He's yeah, 1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:44.360 he's sick. Why didn't any want to ask him that? 1:37:44.479 --> 1:37:46.000 I thought he sounded like he was a little onto 1:37:46.000 --> 1:37:51.120 the weather sound. That's why now you don't need to 1:37:51.160 --> 1:37:53.759 have him played next week? Right right? So that's actually 1:37:53.880 --> 1:37:56.640 good news. Also good news that Matt Patricia, who we 1:37:56.800 --> 1:37:59.479 knew as a billion football mine, according to Mac Jones, 1:37:59.720 --> 1:38:03.040 get a real feel for the play calling. That's good. 1:38:03.360 --> 1:38:05.519 It's Kenny, this is the this is the type of 1:38:05.640 --> 1:38:09.000 job together. Listen, listen, coming together. This is the type 1:38:09.000 --> 1:38:11.280 of job on the type of team where you just 1:38:11.439 --> 1:38:13.200 kind of learn as you go. You don't need to 1:38:13.280 --> 1:38:15.760 come in knowing how to do the job. You can 1:38:15.880 --> 1:38:18.519 kind of you know, you know, learn while you're doing it. 1:38:18.600 --> 1:38:20.720 He's getting a real feel for calling the plays. That's 1:38:21.000 --> 1:38:23.080 I think that's great. Yeah, I think that's you know, 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:25.439 I think, I mean, you know, like your music show, 1:38:25.560 --> 1:38:28.400 you've gotten better as you you've done it. I'm getting 1:38:28.400 --> 1:38:31.120 a feel for it. After thirty years, I am, I'm 1:38:31.200 --> 1:38:33.479 starting to say who the artist is and what the 1:38:33.600 --> 1:38:36.280 song is, Yes and done. More than that, he gives 1:38:36.320 --> 1:38:39.759 you a little background behind the music vhe you know, joking, 1:38:39.880 --> 1:38:43.240 joking aside, though, I would be curious really how what 1:38:43.400 --> 1:38:46.560 the difference is calling defensive plays first offensive place just 1:38:46.680 --> 1:38:49.120 you know, like that the you know, I hate what's 1:38:49.120 --> 1:38:50.640 your frame of mind? What's your frame of mind? But 1:38:50.720 --> 1:38:53.320 what is the frame line when? Whereas in an offense 1:38:53.439 --> 1:38:55.680 you're you know, kind of kind of being active. Well, 1:38:55.680 --> 1:39:00.840 when you have defense set offensively, you're thinking about what 1:39:00.960 --> 1:39:02.880 are we trying to do? Defensively, you're trying to think 1:39:02.920 --> 1:39:04.200 what are they going to try to do. How do 1:39:04.240 --> 1:39:06.040 I counter it? It's just a different frame of mind. 1:39:06.040 --> 1:39:10.559 I would be curious, just curious. She's curious, just curious, 1:39:10.600 --> 1:39:13.280 just curious. What's your frame of mind? Talk about your 1:39:13.280 --> 1:39:15.240 frame of mind? That would that would be the three 1:39:15.439 --> 1:39:19.120 talk about it that. I'm just curious, talk about your 1:39:19.160 --> 1:39:21.639 frame of mind. Boom, let me tell you something. There's 1:39:21.640 --> 1:39:23.720 a little something too there, he said. I'm hoping that 1:39:23.840 --> 1:39:26.559 we can grow, you know, together for a long time. 1:39:27.160 --> 1:39:31.040 Get used to this idea. Matt Patricia in an important 1:39:31.200 --> 1:39:34.040 role on the coaching staff of the New England Patriots. Oh, 1:39:34.080 --> 1:39:35.720 he does have one of the best calls, one of 1:39:35.800 --> 1:39:38.240 the most famous calls in Super Bowl. Here. I'm just saying, 1:39:38.320 --> 1:39:39.640 you want to set up for that, You want to 1:39:39.720 --> 1:39:41.960 set up long term. You want to think about, you know, 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:44.280 what's going to be happening here for several years, maybe 1:39:44.320 --> 1:39:47.599 even beyond. Belichick. Mac Jones just gave you a little, 1:39:48.000 --> 1:39:50.680 a little preview for a long time. And they make 1:39:50.760 --> 1:39:54.519 the playoffs this year, You'll be like, yeah, great, well, 1:39:54.600 --> 1:39:56.720 hope he's going to get a much better field for 1:39:56.760 --> 1:39:58.040 it as he goes, am, I the only one that, 1:39:58.080 --> 1:40:01.280 thanks Bill Belichick, is doing all this stuff. What do 1:40:01.320 --> 1:40:05.880 you mean doing like everything offensively? I think it's all Bill, 1:40:06.439 --> 1:40:08.600 You think that that's why he's telling you, Like, No, 1:40:08.800 --> 1:40:11.439 that's not the way it works. And no, that's it's 1:40:11.840 --> 1:40:16.000 no like I'm telling them what to call. Yeah, they're 1:40:16.040 --> 1:40:19.800 calling the play into the communication system, but I'm telling 1:40:19.880 --> 1:40:21.439 them what to call. I think at the very least, 1:40:21.479 --> 1:40:25.320 it's like a hand holding situation like that. Well, if, 1:40:25.439 --> 1:40:28.280 and I gotta be honest, I'll be consistent about this. 1:40:29.120 --> 1:40:31.360 Given the three options, that's by far the one I 1:40:31.479 --> 1:40:35.120 like the most. Bill, he's the best coach. But is it? 1:40:35.600 --> 1:40:37.679 So what would the problem be? Because he's been asked 1:40:37.680 --> 1:40:39.760 several times now, well what is the process? And one 1:40:39.800 --> 1:40:41.800 of the times he answerly goes, we don't have enough time. 1:40:41.880 --> 1:40:43.800 We don't have the time. Tell you what the process is. 1:40:44.120 --> 1:40:46.000 What if the process were as simple as what you 1:40:46.120 --> 1:40:48.800 just said, Paul, I come up with the play, I 1:40:48.960 --> 1:40:52.680 tell Matt, Matt calls it into the quarterback. What what? 1:40:53.400 --> 1:40:55.160 Why is? Why would that take so long? That it 1:40:57.439 --> 1:41:02.040 takes too long? So that's a good process. So you're 1:41:02.080 --> 1:41:04.840 saying that Paul is incorrect. That's not if that's what 1:41:04.960 --> 1:41:07.920 they're doing, And if that's what the plan is, then 1:41:08.160 --> 1:41:13.040 you might as well just have Bill do it, you know. Yeah, yeah, 1:41:13.160 --> 1:41:16.200 I mean I think it might be something in terms 1:41:16.240 --> 1:41:19.639 of like for this, but that they've pre planned for all. 1:41:19.720 --> 1:41:24.760 I know, Well, it's probably I mean maybe for now. 1:41:24.880 --> 1:41:28.559 Bill has got the training wheels on, Patricia. It's gonna 1:41:28.560 --> 1:41:30.240 be like that every day. Yeah, and then by the 1:41:30.360 --> 1:41:33.880 time September eleventh, he takes the training wheels off and 1:41:34.520 --> 1:41:39.960 he only has input at certain points in the game steps. Process. Yeah, okay, process, 1:41:40.040 --> 1:41:41.799 that's part of the process. That's part of the process. 1:41:42.640 --> 1:41:45.120 All right, I'm gonna process what has happened here for 1:41:45.240 --> 1:41:47.120 thirty seconds and we'll come back to wrap up the 1:41:47.160 --> 1:41:49.880 Patriots postgame Show. And for that we thank cyber Reason, 1:41:49.960 --> 1:41:53.400 presenters of the Patriots Postgame Show. Great defenders don't just 1:41:53.479 --> 1:41:56.439 play in the field, they're also protecting your company and data. 1:41:56.840 --> 1:41:59.840 Cyber Reason on a mission to end ransomwhere and keep 1:41:59.840 --> 1:42:03.439 your business undefeated against cyber attacks. 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He had to tell like he was like 1:42:53.880 --> 1:42:58.280 he was live from our studios inside Gallette Stadium. Here's hardy. 1:42:59.520 --> 1:43:04.400 So decided he use that phrase, I'm the child in 1:43:04.479 --> 1:43:10.800 the background. All right, are you guys gonna work on 1:43:10.880 --> 1:43:12.960 your tails before you go to Las Vegas? You're gonna 1:43:12.960 --> 1:43:15.000 sit in a live poker room. You know, maybe you 1:43:15.080 --> 1:43:16.760 gotta work on your tail. So when you take the 1:43:16.880 --> 1:43:21.000 oreo apart, right, don't what are you doing? I wouldn't 1:43:21.000 --> 1:43:23.080 even bring the orioles to be on the safe side. 1:43:23.120 --> 1:43:30.400 Teddy Teddy kgb Teddy kg when he had a good hand, 1:43:30.479 --> 1:43:32.040 and he didn't eat it when he had I'm a 1:43:32.160 --> 1:43:34.400 terrible liar, so I'm sure I have a hundred No 1:43:34.720 --> 1:43:37.240 juice is like he comes across as like all American, Dad, 1:43:37.320 --> 1:43:41.160 But we'll find out in Las Vegas. Yeah, I got 1:43:41.200 --> 1:43:43.519 like the like shady glasses on four in the morning. 1:43:45.400 --> 1:43:47.720 But that private poker area where people have just been 1:43:47.840 --> 1:43:49.400 they don't even know what time of day it is, 1:43:49.560 --> 1:43:51.760 right when they're just there like the whole time, and 1:43:52.400 --> 1:43:55.559 yeah it's Tuesday. Now you have to leave. We have practice, 1:43:55.720 --> 1:43:59.519 you have to cover practice, and you're here. I'll meet 1:43:59.560 --> 1:44:03.400 you there some alone. How many people from the from 1:44:03.439 --> 1:44:05.120 the staff are going on the trip like that you 1:44:05.160 --> 1:44:09.040 would consider part of your crew? Fred? How many thirteen? 1:44:09.479 --> 1:44:12.519 How many do you think are going to have I'm 1:44:12.560 --> 1:44:14.880 not saying, like, you know, a gambling problem when they 1:44:14.920 --> 1:44:17.519 come out, not anything that's going to pick them a 1:44:17.560 --> 1:44:19.280 long term, but are going to have a moment at 1:44:19.320 --> 1:44:21.400 some point in Vegas that will be defined as a 1:44:21.520 --> 1:44:23.920 Vegas moment. I told them if they do, do not 1:44:24.120 --> 1:44:26.400 say you work for the New England Patriots. Okay, that's fine. 1:44:26.840 --> 1:44:28.439 But do you have a couple of people singled out 1:44:28.439 --> 1:44:30.400 where you said I bet he's going to have a night. No, 1:44:30.720 --> 1:44:32.680 I have all. It's kind of the opposite. I have 1:44:32.800 --> 1:44:38.040 all very uh you know, yeah, straight laced, responsible, Yeah, 1:44:38.160 --> 1:44:41.160 young people. I think it's gonna be deuced induced. I 1:44:41.200 --> 1:44:42.840 think it's gonna be deuced last time I was on 1:44:42.920 --> 1:44:46.120 the road with Duce singing karaoke with me and Marine Corps. 1:44:46.840 --> 1:44:52.840 I think it's gonna be Matt Smith that I could 1:44:52.880 --> 1:44:56.360 see that. I would understand Uncle Matt likes uh like, 1:44:56.560 --> 1:44:58.320 likes to go out and have a good time. Well, well, 1:44:58.360 --> 1:45:00.880 I've been to Vegas. I just if there's any younger 1:45:00.960 --> 1:45:02.880 people coming that have never been to Vegas that are 1:45:02.960 --> 1:45:05.240 gonna want to go and get the Vegas of it all, 1:45:05.439 --> 1:45:07.600 I think that they should experience it. I think you 1:45:07.600 --> 1:45:09.840 should go out at night and check out some of 1:45:09.880 --> 1:45:12.599 the properties as they say, out out there. Well, Tamaris 1:45:12.600 --> 1:45:15.000 said she went out there like once a month for 1:45:15.120 --> 1:45:17.160 a long time. She was out there working, like to 1:45:17.280 --> 1:45:19.240 the point where she's just like tired of it, like 1:45:19.560 --> 1:45:22.800 over it, and it is. It's it's exhausting being there, 1:45:23.080 --> 1:45:25.040 it truly it is. You guys are going to come 1:45:25.080 --> 1:45:27.720 back with you can't like if you're you can't do 1:45:27.880 --> 1:45:30.320 more than a couple of days there. No, that's well, 1:45:30.400 --> 1:45:31.840 this is I mean, this is my my plan. I'm 1:45:31.840 --> 1:45:34.120 gonna take the Red Eye Wednesday night, come in Thursday, 1:45:34.200 --> 1:45:36.439 morning to do like a pu probably come in just 1:45:36.520 --> 1:45:38.280 for that because I'll be exhaust it. But then Friday night, 1:45:38.320 --> 1:45:40.040 I'm gonna have to the next night, have to do 1:45:40.240 --> 1:45:41.840 this show. But you're not going to be here anyway, right, 1:45:41.880 --> 1:45:43.280 so you won't have to deal with me. You're gonna 1:45:43.280 --> 1:45:47.360 have Christian Arcan Christian king In. Yeah, that's right. That 1:45:47.439 --> 1:45:51.160 are pretty good. It is. It's not bad. It's it's 1:45:51.200 --> 1:45:55.400 an undefinable accent that he's Chicago. Yeah, but he's from 1:45:56.120 --> 1:45:58.639 I know, I know, but he admits that. Other people 1:45:58.680 --> 1:46:01.120 have said that they think he's from I think about that. 1:46:01.120 --> 1:46:02.479 When I was watching them today, I thought you did 1:46:02.520 --> 1:46:04.639 a pretty good arc in. That sounds like, yeah, you guys, 1:46:04.680 --> 1:46:07.720 try and figure that out next week when when the 1:46:07.800 --> 1:46:09.960 Patriots will still be in Las Vegas, you guys will 1:46:09.960 --> 1:46:12.160 be back here for the third and final preseason game, 1:46:12.240 --> 1:46:14.880 which is like what game in the year's past? The 1:46:15.360 --> 1:46:17.679 game to another two? Do you agree with that? Ass? 1:46:18.160 --> 1:46:20.040 That was how he explained it. No, I'm saying, do 1:46:20.080 --> 1:46:23.400 you agree with it? Do you concur I really don't know. 1:46:23.560 --> 1:46:25.280 You should have. I'd like it to be a three. 1:46:25.479 --> 1:46:26.760 I think I think it's a two. I think I 1:46:26.840 --> 1:46:29.280 concur I would I would love for it to be 1:46:29.360 --> 1:46:31.240 a three. Yeah, but I think it's going to be 1:46:31.280 --> 1:46:34.040 another because the reason why is because of the joints, 1:46:34.560 --> 1:46:36.960 right right, If they didn't have joint practices, I think 1:46:37.160 --> 1:46:39.080 this three would be a three. Do you know the 1:46:39.160 --> 1:46:42.240 difference between a joint and a blunt and a spliff? 1:46:43.080 --> 1:46:44.960 I heard a little and talk today. I didn't know 1:46:45.000 --> 1:46:46.400 what a blunt was. I had to I had to 1:46:46.479 --> 1:46:49.040 have it explained to me. And and I'm I don't 1:46:49.120 --> 1:46:53.400 know if he did blunt rolled cigarette? Oh? It rolled 1:46:53.520 --> 1:46:57.920 cigar joint? Spliff is a mixed tobacco and weed, is it? Not? 1:46:58.320 --> 1:47:00.400 Like and the gentleman? That's what he means. He makes 1:47:00.479 --> 1:47:04.519 himself a nice fifty fifty mix? Now is it? It's 1:47:04.560 --> 1:47:07.880 a spliff slif? Yeah, I don't know why I thought 1:47:07.920 --> 1:47:12.920 it was screezed blief? You want pronounced now? Now? Was 1:47:12.960 --> 1:47:16.640 I understand it? Matthew? Um, it's pronounced spliff? That is 1:47:16.680 --> 1:47:20.479 that correct? Yeah? No, I did. I learned a little 1:47:20.560 --> 1:47:23.000 something today listening to Hardy and our cans. But the 1:47:23.120 --> 1:47:27.400 blood is marijuana pot dope as as you would as 1:47:27.479 --> 1:47:30.479 you would acquire and enjoy it. But the blunt itself 1:47:30.680 --> 1:47:33.800 is actually just the role? Is that correct? It different 1:47:34.720 --> 1:47:37.960 into What about the chronic? Are you chronics? The type 1:47:37.960 --> 1:47:42.479 of marijuana? I mean, I lived in California? What about 1:47:42.520 --> 1:47:48.720 the white window? What is that? Now? Okay, we go, 1:47:50.400 --> 1:47:53.960 we gotta shoot the postgame. This is the best part. 1:47:54.720 --> 1:47:57.040 This is what people stay up for. The guy in UK, 1:47:57.280 --> 1:48:00.200 he's still listening. It's six o'clock in the morning. What 1:48:00.320 --> 1:48:03.160 are here to provide a service? What is the stickiest 1:48:03.240 --> 1:48:06.599 of the key? I need to know? What about the chronic? 1:48:08.120 --> 1:48:10.240 What kind of papers do you use? I'll just I'll 1:48:10.280 --> 1:48:12.560 just a quick thing before we go there. Yeah, the 1:48:12.760 --> 1:48:15.799 video I lost the videos from the video from practice 1:48:16.240 --> 1:48:18.120 is up. The hit is up. The all twenty two 1:48:18.400 --> 1:48:21.240 you get laid out. It looks like a dirty hit 1:48:21.320 --> 1:48:22.920 to me. It's kind of hard to see. I'll show 1:48:22.960 --> 1:48:24.160 it to you guys when we get off. But it's 1:48:24.400 --> 1:48:27.240 but it's on there. Um. Somebody must have somehow leaked 1:48:27.240 --> 1:48:30.360 the film of it. But I've watched it a couple 1:48:30.400 --> 1:48:32.560 of times. It looks so Why was the Patriots have 1:48:32.640 --> 1:48:34.280 gone to such great lights to say it wasn't a 1:48:34.320 --> 1:48:37.120 dirty hit? I don't know. You can watch it. I 1:48:37.200 --> 1:48:38.840 don't know. I I to me, it looks like he 1:48:38.960 --> 1:48:40.320 just kind of goes in on the side and hits 1:48:40.360 --> 1:48:44.120 him right in the head on purpose. Very. It's very 1:48:44.200 --> 1:48:46.240 it's very I think you should wrap up the final 1:48:46.280 --> 1:48:48.640 show for the final time. Okay, a final score for 1:48:48.680 --> 1:48:54.560 the final time. Panthers ten, Patriots twenty and uh, you 1:48:54.760 --> 1:48:57.120 enjoy the rest of your week. Everyone, enjoy your time 1:48:57.160 --> 1:49:00.519 in Las Vegas. Uh. We've lost Paul for the rest 1:49:00.560 --> 1:49:02.320 of the show, but that's okay because the show's pretty 1:49:02.400 --> 1:49:07.839 much over. Frank. 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