WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Tuesday, November 2 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:10.799 It is Tuesday, November two. This is jack Bars Happy Hour. Hey, 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:13.880 now a guy who's willing to change his name Jamatta 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:20.360 for a price. J Pace. I'll do a lot of 0:00:20.400 --> 0:00:23.759 things for a price, and welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.640 J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logoman coming up. We've got a 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:29.120 busy show. Head, of course, busy two hours I had, 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:33.919 in fact, Jaguars Happy Hour. Here at four o'clock, Jaguars 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.320 analyst Jeff Lockman joins us. Eats Tuesday, will recap week eight. 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:40.880 We'll put a bow on thirty one to seven Seahawks 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.000 over the Jaguars, and then we'll look ahead to week nine. 0:00:45.200 --> 0:00:47.400 It's the NFL. No games are easy, but this one 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:49.519 was really tough. The Bills are coming to town. The 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:51.960 top team one of well, you could argue to the 0:00:51.960 --> 0:00:55.680 top team the a FC right now, the top scoring offense, 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.440 the number one overall defense, the most takeaways in the league. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.440 The Bills coming here. We'll take an early look at 0:01:02.480 --> 0:01:05.480 that one, and then at five o'clock, Jaguars radio network 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.880 coverage begins with the Urban Meyer Show. From five to six, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:10.600 head coach Erman Meyer will join us. We'll get his 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:13.640 final thoughts on the Lawson, Seattle and some of the 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.160 early work looking ahead to the Buffalo Bills. Jeff Loghman 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.039 with us. Now, good afternoon to you, Jeff. What's up man. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:22.200 It's all good, j P. It's all good except for 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.840 the film that is not good. It's mostly good except 0:01:26.840 --> 0:01:30.160 for the film was It was a tough game, and uh, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.280 you kind of got into uh. I think you know, 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.800 the the bye week doldrums, coming back, trying to find 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.600 your groove of coming back, and then you got a 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.800 west coast trip. You put those two together, and I 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.120 think you can have a recipe for poor performance. And 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:47.240 that's exactly what they had. Why is that, I mean, 0:01:47.880 --> 0:01:49.920 it's a bye week. You should come back refreshed and 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:52.680 ready and and eager to go. You got guys coming 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:55.400 off the injury list and and let's go, let's play 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:59.080 some ball. Why is the theory that sounds great? But 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:03.640 the reality is is that when you encounter a bye week, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.160 sometimes you get healthy and you get better. But it's 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:09.280 not like this team was beat up that much before 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.440 the bye week. But the reality is is that you 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.560 get out of your routine. And so sometimes when you 0:02:15.600 --> 0:02:17.960 get out of your routine, you're like, Okay, you have 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.000 a little bit of a hard time finding your groove. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.880 And then next thing you know, you're traveling to the 0:02:22.880 --> 0:02:26.200 West Coast on a Friday, and now the routine is 0:02:26.360 --> 0:02:29.200 even disrupted a little bit more because you're traveling on 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:33.680 a Friday, and so it's just different. And uh, I 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:35.760 had a I had a bad feeling about this game, 0:02:36.680 --> 0:02:41.680 and it came to fruition. The offense struggled, the defense struggled, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:45.600 and the penalties came back as well. Miscommunication return That 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.720 was a real key back in the week one loss 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:51.880 of course to Houston. Urban Meyer addressed it all on Monday. 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:55.480 We also had turnover and the turnovers negated by a penalty, 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.480 just lack of dispine, sloppy play. You had the twelve 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:02.080 men issue where one penalty and one time out. You know, 0:03:02.240 --> 0:03:04.120 I needed that, We needed that time out, So we 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:06.320 have to get that corrected. There's I was really upset 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:09.959 about that. That should never happen. Um, So we addressed 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:14.560 that today. UM. And then offense, you had the delayed games, 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.079 which is very uncharacteristic of Trevor and and so we 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:20.639 just got to give him more opportunity of practice and 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.280 and uh, and get the plays in faster. I mean, 0:03:23.280 --> 0:03:26.280 it's accumulate to it. It's not just Trevor, it's you know. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.840 And then also the substitution of receivers would cause to 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.760 that as well. So so you just, yeah, I'm very 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:35.640 upset about that. That's that's not winning. Football doesn't have 0:03:35.720 --> 0:03:40.680 twelve penalties. Twelve penalties ninety three yards. And as you 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.480 heard him discussed there, and I'm sure we'll we'll ask 0:03:43.520 --> 0:03:45.680 him about this and Therb Meyers show coming up a 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.240 little later and see if they've delved into a little further. 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.480 The twelvemen on the field followed up by nearly another 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:53.840 twelvement on the field before the snap they had to 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:55.760 call a time out to avoid a second one in 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:58.640 a row. Yeah, that's there's no there's no excuse man. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:02.280 And and here here's the reality he talked about. Urban 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:06.480 talked about the turnover that was negated by a penalty. 0:04:06.720 --> 0:04:10.280 I don't think Gino Smith throws that ball unless he 0:04:10.400 --> 0:04:13.120 realizes that the penalty. So in reality, it's not like 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:16.400 he really got to take away. So Gino is being aggressive. 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.440 He knows that he's got Caleb and Chays on offside. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:25.120 Aaron Rodgers, right, So I mean that's not that's not 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:28.039 really a fair assessment of that. But I think the 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.640 disappointing thing is that you had too roughing. The passer 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.760 calls where you finished the quarterback into the into the turf, 0:04:33.839 --> 0:04:36.880 they were the right call, totally correct calls according to 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:41.400 the rules. J Davon Hamilton and John Ward totally guilty. 0:04:41.680 --> 0:04:44.280 You got a taunting penalty by ray Shawn Jenkins. That's 0:04:44.320 --> 0:04:46.080 the second one I think of the year. It is 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:51.080 so uh, twelve men on the field back to back, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.919 no excuse for that. I think the disappointing thing is 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.839 that throughout the game you had kind of something bad happened, 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:02.719 whether it be every offensive series is or every defensive series, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:06.799 and you had a couple of series where something bad 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:10.360 didn't happen. But I make notes during the game, and 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:15.440 you've got the roughing call on Devon Hamilton's you had 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.800 a uh two drives later, the interception by Diggs. They're 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.480 very talented safety. By the way, he's a really good 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:26.120 football player. Because he had a miscommunication by Tavon Austin 0:05:26.200 --> 0:05:31.960 and Trevor Lawrence. Then you have a taunting by Rayshawn 0:05:32.080 --> 0:05:34.680 Jake and rowed on downs. You've got twelve been on 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.839 the field twice, which also has Caleb and Chays on 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.320 all sides on that same drive. I mean, there's just 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.880 so many different things that that you go, what are 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.440 you what are you doing? I mean, it's just a 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:48.839 lot of noise. It's a bad day at the office, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.080 There's no two ways about it. And it's one that 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:57.040 you certainly say bad performance by the players, and then 0:05:57.080 --> 0:05:59.039 you also have to say that's not a very good 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:03.200 performance by the coach staff either. And and I'll say 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:06.280 this the thing that I did not like at the 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.320 end of the game, score a touchdown, you kick the 0:06:10.360 --> 0:06:12.839 extra point, and then you go for two. And I 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.760 know that coach talked about it in this press conference 0:06:16.760 --> 0:06:19.479 and said that, look, it was an opportunity at getting 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.480 reps on that. Let me just say this about that, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.840 when you score a touchdown, you go for two, So 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.000 then it still can be and if you get that, 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:30.120 then you can still keep it a two possession game. 0:06:30.160 --> 0:06:34.040 It's the sixteen point game, rights, so then you can 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.279 go for the onside kick. You don't kick the extra point, 0:06:37.520 --> 0:06:39.800 still have a three possession game, and then choose to 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.000 do the onside kick because you want to practice it, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:46.680 because here's the reality, that's the most dangerous playing football 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:51.280 is the onside kick. You don't practice the most dangerous 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:54.680 playing football because you want to try it out, or 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.600 you want to try to steal another possession on offense. 0:06:58.480 --> 0:07:00.719 If you're gonna, if you're gonna do that at you 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.880 have to go for two before that. If you make 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.680 it going for two, then you go for the onside kick. 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:07.720 And if you get it, okay, if you don't, if 0:07:07.760 --> 0:07:10.160 you don't convert the two point conversion, then you do 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:14.160 not attempted on side kick just to steal possession. It 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:19.800 becomes absolutely for no reason at that point, okay, I mean, 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.680 and guys are putting their bodies out there, and it's 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.880 probably why JP you know, it's probably why he had 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:31.640 the return for the touchdown on the onside kick. Did 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.120 you get the impression that guys were throwing their bodies 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.480 around on this onside kick at that point because the 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:39.280 score is what it is. I mean, there's gonna be 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.080 guys making a business decision. They're not gonna put their 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.280 head in there and go dive after the football right now. 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:49.560 I mean, that's why the running back and uh, it 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.640 was Travis Homer who ended up taking it all the 0:07:53.680 --> 0:07:57.360 way back for a touchdown. And so anyway, I just 0:07:57.400 --> 0:07:59.160 wanted to give you my thoughts on that because I 0:07:59.200 --> 0:08:03.360 wanted to volunteer. So, how do you, for lack of 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:07.119 a better term, circle of wagons again, you know, get 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.960 the coaching staff and players back on the same page 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.760 and eliminate a lot of these communication things. You said, 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:16.000 it's yeah, players when they're on the field, as Tony 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.880 was silly said last night, Hey, if you're the twelfth guy, 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:21.080 you gotta look around, Hey, you're in my spot and 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.200 talk to each other and get off the field. Was 0:08:23.200 --> 0:08:26.080 gonna leave or And at what point does that become 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.560 The coaches can only go so far on the field, 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.320 but you still have to coach them, goach that out 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.120 of them, like there's a balance there. I thought it was. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:38.800 It was kind of comical when you watch the film back, okay, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.240 and they've got twelve guys on the field and you 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:46.680 had an extra defensive lineman. Okay, so I think it 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.120 was jahad Ward. He's he's literally he went from the 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:52.840 left side of the defensive line to the right side, 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:55.120 and he's like, where am I gonna play. They're all 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:58.480 they're all taking so it's kind of funny. It wasn't funny, 0:08:58.480 --> 0:09:01.960 but it was funny. And he's trying to figure out 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.560 where he can play. Wait, wait a minute, I'm one 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:07.280 of the defensive linemen out here. Where where where can 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.600 I line up? And there was nowhere formal line up. 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.320 So eventually he just puts his hand down and it 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.840 becomes a five down lineman situation and you're just going 0:09:17.720 --> 0:09:19.600 and then you have the time out and then you 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:24.880 you it's happening again. I mean that that was like, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.960 you gotta be kidding me. Moment. Uh, what's the old 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:33.760 airline airline commercial? You want to get away? Right? Yeah? Sure, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:38.280 you know one of those where Colgan take me away. 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:40.199 That is definitely one of those moments. By the way, 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:43.520 the trade deadline was four o'clock and no word of 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.720 anything from the Jaguars. So quiet at the deadline for 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:50.000 the Jags. So a couple of the big trades, Ingram 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:54.800 left Pittsburgh to go to Chiefs Kansas City, and then 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:59.600 von Miller goes to the Yes, that's a big one. 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:02.560 For a second. Enough, that's all they have left. By 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.960 the way, all the other one the Rams don't believe 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:08.120 in draft picks. The Rams are going all in right 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:10.960 now and after a couple of three or four years 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.880 if they don't win, and it won't matter anyway for 0:10:12.920 --> 0:10:18.040 the well, that's less neat and less Need is. In fact, 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:22.440 less Need was he was here back in n and 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.480 less Need was essentially an errand guy, which he would 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.560 do different things in scouting, you know, and uh, and 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:33.520 he's a nice guy, and but he got a start here, 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:36.040 was willing to do anything. And now he's the general 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:40.640 manager of the Rams, and and he has him and 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.440 the coach have done a very good job. And I 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.079 will say when I say very good job, I think 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:49.320 that's subject to interpretation. But you can't argue with the results. 0:10:49.600 --> 0:10:53.079 But some people would say you're not doing it and 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:57.480 building the team to make it lasting. They're trying to win. 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.920 They're trying to win now. They they thought they were 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:03.360 about a quarterback away, so they went and got the 0:11:03.400 --> 0:11:06.920 quarterback in the trade Stafford and now getting the pass 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.040 rusher in. I mean, you put his contracts up at 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:13.199 the end of the year, if er if he if 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:15.559 he gets back to being von Miller, which he can 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.600 still do that, and you put him out on the 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:22.960 field with Aaron Donald together. Holy in the back end 0:11:23.000 --> 0:11:26.160 of that defense too, Jalen do all that. Yeah, it's tough. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:28.439 Guess what The Jacks get to play them in about 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:32.319 five weeks time in l A. So we got that 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:40.160 going for us so far. I have I have never 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:44.959 I've never seen a more dominant defensive player in the 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:49.160 National Football League in a long time. Now. I mean 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.800 I'm talking when Von's on, I'm talking no, no, no, no no, 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:54.959 I'm talking about Aaron Donald. Donald. Yes, yes, he can 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.280 take over the whole. I'm saying, you gotta as a 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.680 defensive lineman. Now you have to go back to the 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:08.960 Bruce Smith, the Reggie White, the and he's better than 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:13.520 John Randall, you know. I mean John Reynolds great now, Yeah, 0:12:13.559 --> 0:12:16.440 I mean those guys are are edge guys though Donald's inside. 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:19.680 John Randall was an inside guy. He was a little 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.080 old three technique kind of like Aaron Donald is. Because 0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:24.000 when Aaron Donald was coming out, I was looking at 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:26.559 his his measurables, going, you know, I don't know about 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:30.240 this guy being able to do it, and uh, he's 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:31.959 doing It's like the best in the league. And he's 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.480 one of the best ever I mean, this guy is 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:37.440 a he's a walking gold jacket shoeing Aaron Donald is 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:40.040 There's no doubt about that. So for the Jaguars to 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:44.120 have to figure out how to block Aaron Donald, that's 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:47.600 gonna be a huge challenge for them in that game, 0:12:47.679 --> 0:12:49.079 no doubt. And then he throw a van on the 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.200 outside and yeah, here we go. Um, by the way, 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:55.959 that game is coming up at so FI Stadium December five, 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.560 December first or so, we'll have plenty of time on 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:05.480 this program to go over those matchups because, um, there 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:08.319 are a lot to dissect in that anyway, that's down 0:13:08.360 --> 0:13:10.800 the line a little bit. Um If you know, this 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:13.320 didn't seem just going into the last week or so 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.880 like a team that would really be too active unless 0:13:16.960 --> 0:13:19.800 there was somebody out there that you could get for 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.560 not just this year, but two or three years down 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.080 the line to stay the hard part, that's that's the 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.199 hard part. These guys don't come around and there aren't 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:31.000 available to all. Trent Balky and Urban Meyer are trying, 0:13:31.720 --> 0:13:33.400 you know, and you always try to do this. You 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:38.360 try to build something that's sustainable. And what sustainable means 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.880 is that whoever you acquire that they're going to be available, 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:45.080 not just for they're gonna be available for next year 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.240 two and then also and so I think that's part 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.600 of factoring in whether you want to get a guy 0:13:52.720 --> 0:13:58.439 in the trade before the trade diedline. Typically the it's 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:02.880 a seller's market when you're talking about the trade deadline. 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:06.840 If you had von Miller, would you and he's on 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.800 a one year deal? I mean, don't you think the 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:13.280 Denver Broncos did pretty good getting a second and a third? Yeah, 0:14:13.280 --> 0:14:15.160 because who knows we're gonna really going to resign him 0:14:15.200 --> 0:14:17.680 at the end of the year. Yeah, that's a really 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:19.840 I mean, so it's a perfect example of it being 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.680 a seller's market. And from the Ramps perspective there in 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:26.280 the hunt they need to win, we can afford this. 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:30.160 That's typically who I don't want to say that they 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.960 view it as that. That's typically if you're in that position, 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.440 then you view that you maybe make a trade like that. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.840 But if you're not, you've got to get a guy 0:14:40.880 --> 0:14:44.480 that's gonna give you some type of commitment beyond this year. 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.560 You know, that's gonna, like I said, help you in 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.520 the next couple of years, not just this year. So 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:54.040 and that's that's hard to find sometimes, and then if 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:56.160 you do find a guy that a team is willing 0:14:56.200 --> 0:15:00.880 to trade for, there is typically there's something there that 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:06.680 hasn't made that player has loved, you know what I mean, 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.480 as far as there's something wrong, there's some kind of 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:14.720 I don't know what you would call it, some type 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:20.320 of glaring wart or whatever you want to call it 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:22.680 that the player has. If I mean, because look at 0:15:22.800 --> 0:15:26.280 that's and not all players have that, then they're not 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.000 all covered up, and maybe it's just not a full 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:33.040 organizational fit. You know. Sometimes it's just Okay, let's move 0:15:33.080 --> 0:15:36.680 on from said player and and start over. Hey, So 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:43.200 given give an example, Okay, c J. Henderson was traded. Correct, Okay, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:47.760 perfect example, he has he has a Blemishkay. The reports 0:15:47.760 --> 0:15:50.920 were the coach and and one of the defensive coaches 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.520 went to his house to talk to him. They confirmed which, yeah, 0:15:55.520 --> 0:15:58.640 which they were talking to him supposedly about because he 0:15:58.640 --> 0:16:02.920 didn't want to play ball anymore. And has he played 0:16:02.960 --> 0:16:07.720 that well for Carolina since the we got Dan Arnold 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.920 out of that trade, producing every week. So I think 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.040 my point about that is is that if there's a 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:19.680 guy that's willing to be traded two things because von 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.560 Miller doesn't have any blemishes on him. He's a great player, 0:16:23.160 --> 0:16:26.120 but the only drawback to him from the Denver Baco's 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:29.960 perspective is how many more years can he play at 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.120 the level that he's at? Can can you make it 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:36.479 work from a cap perspective? And what is the team 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.760 that wants him willing to give us? They value a 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:42.880 second and a third round pick more than they value 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.920 a player who only has this year left on his deal, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.880 especially if wherever they are in the standings right now. 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:52.280 I mean, Denver is you know, last player four and 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.200 four and they're chasing Vegas and the Chargers. I mean 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:59.040 it's a tight division, but no guarantees. Let's come back 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:02.960 defense for the Jaguars. We'll get into what happened this 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:08.320 past week. Gino Smith, your guy, it was hot, red hot, 0:17:08.600 --> 0:17:12.200 white hot to start the game. Yeah. Well, uh, he 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:14.400 must have listened to the Free Game show. That's why 0:17:14.520 --> 0:17:17.600 he might have. And if you were all over it, 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:19.920 well I just said he's not a very good quarterback. 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:23.159 Well he heard that. He took it personally. Still not. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.119 We'll get into that coming up. P r I Productions, 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:29.480 the official event production company the Jags has everything you 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:31.720 need to bring your next idea to life. Visit pr 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:35.040 I Productions dot com. And this is Jaguars Happy Hour 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:42.399 on the Jaguars Hard Rock sports Book Digital Network. In 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.520 this league, I should never happen, you know what I mean, 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.880 there's there's there's no excuse for that, there's no response. 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.439 We have to have better communication coming off the field, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:52.520 and obviously it's a hectic environment. You know, there's d 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:54.560 lineman and are locked in trying to get to play 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:57.000 and then this guy's running on. So it's gotta be 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:59.359 a communication thing where if you are running on the field, 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:01.160 you have to call. You gotta go one for one. 0:18:01.240 --> 0:18:03.160 You can't just run on the field and just say, hey, 0:18:03.160 --> 0:18:05.640 it's my turn to play. So it's a lot of things, 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.080 you know what I mean. It's it's the time and 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.560 other substitutions. Um, it's it's players not communicating when they 0:18:10.560 --> 0:18:12.880 come in. So it's a total thing, and it's such 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:14.399 an easy thing to fix, you know what I mean. 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.960 It's not like it's something hard like when you when 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.720 you you know, raise your ann when you're running in 0:18:18.920 --> 0:18:20.680 and you know who you're supposed to grab. We're going 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.840 from Um, Baseberk Jack personnel, the nickel personnel, whoever the 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:26.720 nickel is. He's gotta go run and grab the sam. 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.040 Like everybody knows what they're supposed to do, we're just 0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:33.320 not doing it. So it's on Earth. 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That's 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:01.159 Miles of course talking about the twelve men on the 0:19:01.160 --> 0:19:03.800 field penalty in the near and next when we've gone 0:19:03.880 --> 0:19:08.600 through that, um, you know, coverage issues were there again. 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.760 There was all this talk about all we're gonna play 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.960 more zone now, and you know they still it felt 0:19:14.960 --> 0:19:18.160 like they were the Locket and net Kaffre just running open. 0:19:18.200 --> 0:19:22.919 A lot of times. Well, Lockett got separation, particularly when 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:26.040 he was being covered in Man with Tyson Campbell. I mean, 0:19:26.080 --> 0:19:30.480 look Locks a great player and he's uh one of 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.960 the top five guys in the National Football League at 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:36.359 yards per catch. He's got great speed, elite speed. So 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.800 it was Tyson Campbell, but he ran away from Tyson 0:19:38.800 --> 0:19:43.760 and got separation. So and then when the Jaguars played zone, 0:19:43.920 --> 0:19:47.360 he's pretty crafty about finding the opening. And that's he's 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:52.480 a great player. And what has happened prior to this 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:56.400 game against the Jaguars, Tyler Lockett hadn't gotten really much 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.240 of a connection with Gino Smith. No. In fact, the 0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:04.639 numbers with which is kind of ridiculous. In the last 0:20:04.680 --> 0:20:07.440 five games, Tyler Lockett had only had a hundred fifty 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:10.240 nine yards receiving and no touchdowns. In the first couple 0:20:10.280 --> 0:20:12.760 of games of the season, he had two yards and 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:17.960 three touchdowns, and so there was no connection with with Gino. 0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:24.520 But you know, it's just it's hard for a defense. 0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:30.040 And I think the Jaguars coaching staff and personnel probably 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:33.720 over evaluated, or should I say, I don't know another 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.960 way to put this. They overvalued what they had in 0:20:37.040 --> 0:20:40.399 the back end at the start of the year. You're 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.520 saying at the start of the years when the ross 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:45.560 was set. Okay, we're set with these guys and here's why, right, 0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:47.920 And obviously that changed a little bit with with c J. 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:51.360 And then you have a rookie who's clearly struggling Enticon Campbell. 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:57.120 But it's hard to go from Okay, all of all season, 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.560 all of training camp, were prepared to play man. We're 0:21:00.560 --> 0:21:04.320 gonna play man, and you're practicing man, and you're practicing 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.159 you know, the blitzes and the pressures and all that 0:21:07.200 --> 0:21:08.560 kind of stuff. And then all of a sudden, now 0:21:08.600 --> 0:21:10.440 you've said, well, you know, we gotta be more zone. 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:14.879 It's probably a little bit easier to go from zone 0:21:14.920 --> 0:21:18.639 to man because it's easier to practice or better to 0:21:18.720 --> 0:21:24.119 practice something that you got. Even with zone less, you 0:21:24.200 --> 0:21:26.800 have to relate to what the routes are in his zone. 0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:31.000 And man, it's man. You're chasingly going around, right, So 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.320 and if that man is better than your man, then 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:35.600 that man is gonna win the man. And so, I mean, 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.399 in hindsight, which hindsight is always I mean, I'm not 0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.400 trying to criticize the coaching staff for the personnel staff here, 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:46.320 but maybe with hindsight and hindsight for everybody, was said, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:48.480 you know what, let's let's maybe just try to be 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.919 balanced and that way we're practicing both and then we'll 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.359 see where we go if if if we feel like 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.159 we're playing pretty well and we feel like we can 0:21:55.160 --> 0:21:57.560 play more man, and we'll we'll play a little bit 0:21:57.600 --> 0:22:00.240 more man, if we feel like we're not quite good 0:22:00.320 --> 0:22:02.640 enough talent wise, and we'll play a little bit more zone. 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.679 And that's okay. But it didn't happen like that. They 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:07.520 came out practicing a lot of man, but that they 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:12.560 look it's uh, Rome wasn't built overnight, now, you know. 0:22:12.600 --> 0:22:14.960 And the disappointing thing is though that you know they're 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:17.159 talking about rebuild. That term has been used now this 0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:21.040 week and in the off season you signed the safety, 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:23.479