1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, November two. This is jack Bars Happy Hour. Hey, 2 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: now a guy who's willing to change his name Jamatta 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: for a price. J Pace. I'll do a lot of 4 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: things for a price, and welcome in. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. 5 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logoman coming up. We've got a 6 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: busy show. Head, of course, busy two hours I had, 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: in fact, Jaguars Happy Hour. Here at four o'clock, Jaguars 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: analyst Jeff Lockman joins us. Eats Tuesday, will recap week eight. 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: We'll put a bow on thirty one to seven Seahawks 10 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: over the Jaguars, and then we'll look ahead to week nine. 11 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: It's the NFL. No games are easy, but this one 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: was really tough. The Bills are coming to town. The 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: top team one of well, you could argue to the 14 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: top team the a FC right now, the top scoring offense, 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: the number one overall defense, the most takeaways in the league. 16 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: The Bills coming here. We'll take an early look at 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: that one, and then at five o'clock, Jaguars radio network 18 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: coverage begins with the Urban Meyer Show. From five to six, 19 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: head coach Erman Meyer will join us. We'll get his 20 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: final thoughts on the Lawson, Seattle and some of the 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: early work looking ahead to the Buffalo Bills. Jeff Loghman 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,039 Speaker 1: with us. Now, good afternoon to you, Jeff. What's up man. 23 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: It's all good, j P. It's all good except for 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: the film that is not good. It's mostly good except 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: for the film was It was a tough game, and uh, 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: you kind of got into uh. I think you know, 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: the the bye week doldrums, coming back, trying to find 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: your groove of coming back, and then you got a 29 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: west coast trip. You put those two together, and I 30 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: think you can have a recipe for poor performance. And 31 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they had. Why is that, I mean, 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: it's a bye week. You should come back refreshed and 33 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: ready and and eager to go. You got guys coming 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: off the injury list and and let's go, let's play 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: some ball. Why is the theory that sounds great? But 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: the reality is is that when you encounter a bye week, 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you get healthy and you get better. But it's 38 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: not like this team was beat up that much before 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: the bye week. But the reality is is that you 40 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: get out of your routine. And so sometimes when you 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: get out of your routine, you're like, Okay, you have 42 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hard time finding your groove. 43 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: And then next thing you know, you're traveling to the 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: West Coast on a Friday, and now the routine is 45 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: even disrupted a little bit more because you're traveling on 46 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: a Friday, and so it's just different. And uh, I 47 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: had a I had a bad feeling about this game, 48 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: and it came to fruition. The offense struggled, the defense struggled, 49 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: and the penalties came back as well. Miscommunication return That 50 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: was a real key back in the week one loss 51 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: of course to Houston. Urban Meyer addressed it all on Monday. 52 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: We also had turnover and the turnovers negated by a penalty, 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: just lack of dispine, sloppy play. You had the twelve 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: men issue where one penalty and one time out. You know, 55 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: I needed that, We needed that time out, So we 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: have to get that corrected. There's I was really upset 57 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 1: about that. That should never happen. Um, So we addressed 58 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: that today. UM. And then offense, you had the delayed games, 59 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: which is very uncharacteristic of Trevor and and so we 60 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 1: just got to give him more opportunity of practice and 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: and uh, and get the plays in faster. I mean, 62 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: it's accumulate to it. It's not just Trevor, it's you know. 63 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: And then also the substitution of receivers would cause to 64 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: that as well. So so you just, yeah, I'm very 65 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: upset about that. That's that's not winning. Football doesn't have 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: twelve penalties. Twelve penalties ninety three yards. And as you 67 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: heard him discussed there, and I'm sure we'll we'll ask 68 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: him about this and Therb Meyers show coming up a 69 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: little later and see if they've delved into a little further. 70 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: The twelvemen on the field followed up by nearly another 71 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: twelvement on the field before the snap they had to 72 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: call a time out to avoid a second one in 73 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: a row. Yeah, that's there's no there's no excuse man. 74 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: And and here here's the reality he talked about. Urban 75 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: talked about the turnover that was negated by a penalty. 76 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: I don't think Gino Smith throws that ball unless he 77 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: realizes that the penalty. So in reality, it's not like 78 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: he really got to take away. So Gino is being aggressive. 79 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: He knows that he's got Caleb and Chays on offside. 80 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, right, So I mean that's not that's not 81 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: really a fair assessment of that. But I think the 82 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: disappointing thing is that you had too roughing. The passer 83 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: calls where you finished the quarterback into the into the turf, 84 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: they were the right call, totally correct calls according to 85 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: the rules. J Davon Hamilton and John Ward totally guilty. 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: You got a taunting penalty by ray Shawn Jenkins. That's 87 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: the second one I think of the year. It is 88 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: so uh, twelve men on the field back to back, 89 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 1: no excuse for that. I think the disappointing thing is 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: that throughout the game you had kind of something bad happened, 91 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: whether it be every offensive series is or every defensive series, 92 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,799 Speaker 1: and you had a couple of series where something bad 93 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: didn't happen. But I make notes during the game, and 94 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: you've got the roughing call on Devon Hamilton's you had 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: a uh two drives later, the interception by Diggs. They're 96 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: very talented safety. By the way, he's a really good 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: football player. Because he had a miscommunication by Tavon Austin 98 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. Then you have a taunting by Rayshawn 99 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: Jake and rowed on downs. You've got twelve been on 100 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: the field twice, which also has Caleb and Chays on 101 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: all sides on that same drive. I mean, there's just 102 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: so many different things that that you go, what are 103 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: you what are you doing? I mean, it's just a 104 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: lot of noise. It's a bad day at the office, 105 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: There's no two ways about it. And it's one that 106 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 1: you certainly say bad performance by the players, and then 107 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,039 Speaker 1: you also have to say that's not a very good 108 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: performance by the coach staff either. And and I'll say 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: this the thing that I did not like at the 110 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: end of the game, score a touchdown, you kick the 111 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: extra point, and then you go for two. And I 112 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: know that coach talked about it in this press conference 113 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: and said that, look, it was an opportunity at getting 114 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: reps on that. Let me just say this about that, 115 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: when you score a touchdown, you go for two, So 116 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: then it still can be and if you get that, 117 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: then you can still keep it a two possession game. 118 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: It's the sixteen point game, rights, so then you can 119 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: go for the onside kick. You don't kick the extra point, 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: still have a three possession game, and then choose to 121 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: do the onside kick because you want to practice it, 122 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: because here's the reality, that's the most dangerous playing football 123 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: is the onside kick. You don't practice the most dangerous 124 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: playing football because you want to try it out, or 125 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: you want to try to steal another possession on offense. 126 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: If you're gonna, if you're gonna do that at you 127 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: have to go for two before that. If you make 128 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: it going for two, then you go for the onside kick. 129 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: And if you get it, okay, if you don't, if 130 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: you don't convert the two point conversion, then you do 131 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: not attempted on side kick just to steal possession. It 132 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: becomes absolutely for no reason at that point, okay, I mean, 133 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: and guys are putting their bodies out there, and it's 134 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: probably why JP you know, it's probably why he had 135 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 1: the return for the touchdown on the onside kick. Did 136 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 1: you get the impression that guys were throwing their bodies 137 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: around on this onside kick at that point because the 138 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: score is what it is. I mean, there's gonna be 139 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: guys making a business decision. They're not gonna put their 140 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: head in there and go dive after the football right now. 141 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's why the running back and uh, it 142 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: was Travis Homer who ended up taking it all the 143 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: way back for a touchdown. And so anyway, I just 144 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: wanted to give you my thoughts on that because I 145 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: wanted to volunteer. So, how do you, for lack of 146 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:07,119 Speaker 1: a better term, circle of wagons again, you know, get 147 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: the coaching staff and players back on the same page 148 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: and eliminate a lot of these communication things. You said, 149 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: it's yeah, players when they're on the field, as Tony 150 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: was silly said last night, Hey, if you're the twelfth guy, 151 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: you gotta look around, Hey, you're in my spot and 152 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: talk to each other and get off the field. Was 153 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: gonna leave or And at what point does that become 154 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: The coaches can only go so far on the field, 155 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: but you still have to coach them, goach that out 156 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: of them, like there's a balance there. I thought it was. 157 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: It was kind of comical when you watch the film back, okay, 158 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: and they've got twelve guys on the field and you 159 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: had an extra defensive lineman. Okay, so I think it 160 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: was jahad Ward. He's he's literally he went from the 161 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: left side of the defensive line to the right side, 162 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: and he's like, where am I gonna play. They're all 163 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: they're all taking so it's kind of funny. It wasn't funny, 164 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 1: but it was funny. And he's trying to figure out 165 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: where he can play. Wait, wait a minute, I'm one 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: of the defensive linemen out here. Where where where can 167 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: I line up? And there was nowhere formal line up. 168 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: So eventually he just puts his hand down and it 169 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 1: becomes a five down lineman situation and you're just going 170 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: and then you have the time out and then you 171 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: you it's happening again. I mean that that was like, 172 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. Moment. Uh, what's the old 173 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: airline airline commercial? You want to get away? Right? Yeah? Sure, 174 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: you know one of those where Colgan take me away. 175 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 1: That is definitely one of those moments. By the way, 176 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: the trade deadline was four o'clock and no word of 177 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: anything from the Jaguars. So quiet at the deadline for 178 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: the Jags. So a couple of the big trades, Ingram 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: left Pittsburgh to go to Chiefs Kansas City, and then 180 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: von Miller goes to the Yes, that's a big one. 181 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: For a second. Enough, that's all they have left. By 182 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: the way, all the other one the Rams don't believe 183 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: in draft picks. The Rams are going all in right 184 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: now and after a couple of three or four years 185 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: if they don't win, and it won't matter anyway for 186 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: the well, that's less neat and less Need is. In fact, 187 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: less Need was he was here back in n and 188 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: less Need was essentially an errand guy, which he would 189 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: do different things in scouting, you know, and uh, and 190 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: he's a nice guy, and but he got a start here, 191 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: was willing to do anything. And now he's the general 192 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: manager of the Rams, and and he has him and 193 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: the coach have done a very good job. And I 194 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: will say when I say very good job, I think 195 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: that's subject to interpretation. But you can't argue with the results. 196 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: But some people would say you're not doing it and 197 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: building the team to make it lasting. They're trying to win. 198 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: They're trying to win now. They they thought they were 199 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: about a quarterback away, so they went and got the 200 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: quarterback in the trade Stafford and now getting the pass 201 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: rusher in. I mean, you put his contracts up at 202 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 1: the end of the year, if er if he if 203 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 1: he gets back to being von Miller, which he can 204 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: still do that, and you put him out on the 205 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: field with Aaron Donald together. Holy in the back end 206 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: of that defense too, Jalen do all that. Yeah, it's tough. 207 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: Guess what The Jacks get to play them in about 208 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:32,319 Speaker 1: five weeks time in l A. So we got that 209 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: going for us so far. I have I have never 210 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: I've never seen a more dominant defensive player in the 211 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: National Football League in a long time. Now. I mean 212 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm talking when Von's on, I'm talking no, no, no, no no, 213 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: I'm talking about Aaron Donald. Donald. Yes, yes, he can 214 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: take over the whole. I'm saying, you gotta as a 215 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Now you have to go back to the 216 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: Bruce Smith, the Reggie White, the and he's better than 217 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 1: John Randall, you know. I mean John Reynolds great now, Yeah, 218 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: I mean those guys are are edge guys though Donald's inside. 219 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: John Randall was an inside guy. He was a little 220 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: old three technique kind of like Aaron Donald is. Because 221 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: when Aaron Donald was coming out, I was looking at 222 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: his his measurables, going, you know, I don't know about 223 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: this guy being able to do it, and uh, he's 224 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: doing It's like the best in the league. And he's 225 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: one of the best ever I mean, this guy is 226 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: a he's a walking gold jacket shoeing Aaron Donald is 227 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. So for the Jaguars to 228 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: have to figure out how to block Aaron Donald, that's 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a huge challenge for them in that game, 230 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: no doubt. And then he throw a van on the 231 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: outside and yeah, here we go. Um, by the way, 232 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: that game is coming up at so FI Stadium December five, 233 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: December first or so, we'll have plenty of time on 234 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: this program to go over those matchups because, um, there 235 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: are a lot to dissect in that anyway, that's down 236 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: the line a little bit. Um If you know, this 237 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: didn't seem just going into the last week or so 238 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: like a team that would really be too active unless 239 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: there was somebody out there that you could get for 240 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: not just this year, but two or three years down 241 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: the line to stay the hard part, that's that's the 242 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: hard part. These guys don't come around and there aren't 243 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: available to all. Trent Balky and Urban Meyer are trying, 244 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: you know, and you always try to do this. You 245 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: try to build something that's sustainable. And what sustainable means 246 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: is that whoever you acquire that they're going to be available, 247 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: not just for they're gonna be available for next year 248 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: two and then also and so I think that's part 249 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: of factoring in whether you want to get a guy 250 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: in the trade before the trade diedline. Typically the it's 251 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 1: a seller's market when you're talking about the trade deadline. 252 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: If you had von Miller, would you and he's on 253 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: a one year deal? I mean, don't you think the 254 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: Denver Broncos did pretty good getting a second and a third? Yeah, 255 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: because who knows we're gonna really going to resign him 256 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: at the end of the year. Yeah, that's a really 257 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: I mean, so it's a perfect example of it being 258 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: a seller's market. And from the Ramps perspective there in 259 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: the hunt they need to win, we can afford this. 260 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: That's typically who I don't want to say that they 261 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: view it as that. That's typically if you're in that position, 262 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: then you view that you maybe make a trade like that. 263 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: But if you're not, you've got to get a guy 264 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna give you some type of commitment beyond this year. 265 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: You know, that's gonna, like I said, help you in 266 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: the next couple of years, not just this year. So 267 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: and that's that's hard to find sometimes, and then if 268 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: you do find a guy that a team is willing 269 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: to trade for, there is typically there's something there that 270 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: hasn't made that player has loved, you know what I mean, 271 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 1: as far as there's something wrong, there's some kind of 272 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what you would call it, some type 273 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: of glaring wart or whatever you want to call it 274 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: that the player has. If I mean, because look at 275 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: that's and not all players have that, then they're not 276 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: all covered up, and maybe it's just not a full 277 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: organizational fit. You know. Sometimes it's just Okay, let's move 278 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: on from said player and and start over. Hey, So 279 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: given give an example, Okay, c J. Henderson was traded. Correct, Okay, 280 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: perfect example, he has he has a Blemishkay. The reports 281 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: were the coach and and one of the defensive coaches 282 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: went to his house to talk to him. They confirmed which, yeah, 283 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: which they were talking to him supposedly about because he 284 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: didn't want to play ball anymore. And has he played 285 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: that well for Carolina since the we got Dan Arnold 286 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: out of that trade, producing every week. So I think 287 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: my point about that is is that if there's a 288 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: guy that's willing to be traded two things because von 289 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: Miller doesn't have any blemishes on him. He's a great player, 290 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: but the only drawback to him from the Denver Baco's 291 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: perspective is how many more years can he play at 292 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: the level that he's at? Can can you make it 293 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:36,479 Speaker 1: work from a cap perspective? And what is the team 294 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: that wants him willing to give us? They value a 295 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: second and a third round pick more than they value 296 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: a player who only has this year left on his deal, 297 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: especially if wherever they are in the standings right now. 298 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Denver is you know, last player four and 299 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: four and they're chasing Vegas and the Chargers. I mean 300 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: it's a tight division, but no guarantees. Let's come back 301 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: defense for the Jaguars. We'll get into what happened this 302 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: past week. Gino Smith, your guy, it was hot, red hot, 303 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: white hot to start the game. Yeah. Well, uh, he 304 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 1: must have listened to the Free Game show. That's why 305 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: he might have. And if you were all over it, 306 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: well I just said he's not a very good quarterback. 307 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,159 Speaker 1: Well he heard that. He took it personally. Still not. 308 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 1: We'll get into that coming up. P r I Productions, 309 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: the official event production company the Jags has everything you 310 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: need to bring your next idea to life. Visit pr 311 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: I Productions dot com. And this is Jaguars Happy Hour 312 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Hard Rock sports Book Digital Network. In 313 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: this league, I should never happen, you know what I mean, 314 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: there's there's there's no excuse for that, there's no response. 315 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,439 Speaker 1: We have to have better communication coming off the field, 316 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: and obviously it's a hectic environment. You know, there's d 317 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: lineman and are locked in trying to get to play 318 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: and then this guy's running on. So it's gotta be 319 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: a communication thing where if you are running on the field, 320 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 1: you have to call. You gotta go one for one. 321 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: You can't just run on the field and just say, hey, 322 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: it's my turn to play. So it's a lot of things, 323 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's the time and 324 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: other substitutions. Um, it's it's players not communicating when they 325 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: come in. So it's a total thing, and it's such 326 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:14,399 Speaker 1: an easy thing to fix, you know what I mean. 327 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: It's not like it's something hard like when you when 328 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 1: you you know, raise your ann when you're running in 329 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: and you know who you're supposed to grab. We're going 330 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: from Um, Baseberk Jack personnel, the nickel personnel, whoever the 331 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: nickel is. He's gotta go run and grab the sam. 332 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: Like everybody knows what they're supposed to do, we're just 333 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: not doing it. So it's on Earth. That's Miles Jack 334 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: after the game in Seattle this past Sunday, and Jaguars 335 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: Happy Hour continues Hard Rock Sports Book must be twenty 336 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: one and physically President Florida the wager concerned about gambling 337 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: please call one eight hundred five to two four seven 338 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: zero zero, presenting a sponsor of the Jaguars Digital Network. 339 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 1: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, Joe Fortunano, Bret Reever. Glad 340 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: you're along with us today on Jaguars Happy Hour. That's 341 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: Miles of course talking about the twelve men on the 342 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: field penalty in the near and next when we've gone 343 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 1: through that, um, you know, coverage issues were there again. 344 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: There was all this talk about all we're gonna play 345 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: more zone now, and you know they still it felt 346 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: like they were the Locket and net Kaffre just running open. 347 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 1: A lot of times. Well, Lockett got separation, particularly when 348 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: he was being covered in Man with Tyson Campbell. I mean, 349 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: look Locks a great player and he's uh one of 350 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: the top five guys in the National Football League at 351 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: yards per catch. He's got great speed, elite speed. So 352 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: it was Tyson Campbell, but he ran away from Tyson 353 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: and got separation. So and then when the Jaguars played zone, 354 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,360 Speaker 1: he's pretty crafty about finding the opening. And that's he's 355 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: a great player. And what has happened prior to this 356 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: game against the Jaguars, Tyler Lockett hadn't gotten really much 357 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: of a connection with Gino Smith. No. In fact, the 358 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: numbers with which is kind of ridiculous. In the last 359 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 1: five games, Tyler Lockett had only had a hundred fifty 360 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: nine yards receiving and no touchdowns. In the first couple 361 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: of games of the season, he had two yards and 362 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, and so there was no connection with with Gino. 363 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: But you know, it's just it's hard for a defense. 364 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: And I think the Jaguars coaching staff and personnel probably 365 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: over evaluated, or should I say, I don't know another 366 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: way to put this. They overvalued what they had in 367 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: the back end at the start of the year. You're 368 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: saying at the start of the years when the ross 369 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: was set. Okay, we're set with these guys and here's why, right, 370 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: And obviously that changed a little bit with with c J. 371 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,360 Speaker 1: And then you have a rookie who's clearly struggling Enticon Campbell. 372 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: But it's hard to go from Okay, all of all season, 373 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: all of training camp, were prepared to play man. We're 374 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna play man, and you're practicing man, and you're practicing 375 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: you know, the blitzes and the pressures and all that 376 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And then all of a sudden, now 377 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: you've said, well, you know, we gotta be more zone. 378 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: It's probably a little bit easier to go from zone 379 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: to man because it's easier to practice or better to 380 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 1: practice something that you got. Even with zone less, you 381 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: have to relate to what the routes are in his zone. 382 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: And man, it's man. You're chasingly going around, right, So 383 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: and if that man is better than your man, then 384 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: that man is gonna win the man. And so, I mean, 385 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 1: in hindsight, which hindsight is always I mean, I'm not 386 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: trying to criticize the coaching staff for the personnel staff here, 387 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: but maybe with hindsight and hindsight for everybody, was said, 388 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: you know what, let's let's maybe just try to be 389 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: balanced and that way we're practicing both and then we'll 390 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: see where we go if if if we feel like 391 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: we're playing pretty well and we feel like we can 392 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: play more man, and we'll we'll play a little bit 393 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: more man, if we feel like we're not quite good 394 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: enough talent wise, and we'll play a little bit more zone. 395 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,679 Speaker 1: And that's okay. But it didn't happen like that. They 396 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: came out practicing a lot of man, but that they 397 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: look it's uh, Rome wasn't built overnight, now, you know. 398 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: And the disappointing thing is though that you know they're 399 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: talking about rebuild. That term has been used now this 400 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: week and in the off season you signed the safety, 401 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,479 Speaker 1: he'sig a corner and free agency and then you drafted 402 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: a safety and you drafted a corner. So I mean 403 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: the rebuild is I mean, you're right in the middle 404 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: of it, but I mean you would you were hoping 405 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: for better results now having a cornerstones of the rebuild 406 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 1: at some point you hope that kind of equity into it, 407 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: you hope. And then and they got a ways to go, 408 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: you know, they got a ways to go. I mean, 409 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: Tyson's got a lot of growth to make to make 410 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: and and I think he'll make it. I think he's 411 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: first of all, he works hard, he's got this, he's 412 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: got the physical toolbag. He's gotta learn to play the 413 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: ball better. Can he do that at the level where 414 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: you want him to be? I mean, that's that's that's 415 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: an interesting question because when like when you watch Josh Allen, 416 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: when Josh Allen plays the game, he's very aware of 417 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: the ball and he finishes really well. Is this something 418 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: that you either have or you don't. And I've said 419 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: this before, the finishing the ball awareness sometimes is something 420 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: that confidence will help build, that experience will help build that. 421 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: But then in some cases you either have it or 422 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: you don't. Bucky Brooks on our Wednesday show on Jaguars 423 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 1: dot Com a couple of times and said, you know, 424 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: sometimes if somebody has like a a baseball or basketball background, 425 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: when you have to play the ball, that if you 426 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: play outfield right depth balls coming at you, you gotta 427 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: figure out I never can figure that out right as 428 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 1: a kid, but like you know, you have to figure 429 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: out how where the ball is coming and play the 430 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 1: ball basketball you're getting rebound the same idea. So A 431 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: lot of times scouts will think about that background when 432 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: they're going after a corner type player to evaluate his 433 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 1: ability to go get the ball. I don't know if 434 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: there's much of a background of that with Tyson whatever, 435 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: but whether you play it or not, some guys have it, 436 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,959 Speaker 1: never played those sports, so either it may or may 437 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: not be coachable. You know, the two the two toughest 438 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: positions I think in the NFL for a rookie quarterback clearly. 439 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, look, you're you're gonna take some lumps. 440 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean even when you're the first overall pick in 441 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: the draft. I mean, go back and you look at 442 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: all the the eight men, Peyton, Manning's the John Always, 443 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. Every guy that was picked 444 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,439 Speaker 1: first overall has had struggles. For the most part, I 445 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: don't know if is there a first overall pick quarterback 446 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: that hasn't struggled. I mean, everybody's got some Andrew Luck, 447 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm trying to think of how he was 448 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: his rookie year. But I mean and then the other positions. Corner, yeah, 449 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: because you're I dont On Island. Yeah, and they got 450 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: veteran guys running rounds against you and picking on you, 451 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: and the veteran quarterbacks are picking on you and everything 452 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 1: in college football. If you were Tyson Campbell or or 453 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: a corner at any major college football program, how many 454 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: guys did you go against that we're gonna play in 455 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. And I'm not talking about somebody that plays 456 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: for Alabama, because in practice, you were gonna place guys 457 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: that we're gonna play in the NFL every day part 458 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: of the deal. But it kind of depends on this 459 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: on the schedule, right, right, But I mean, you know, 460 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: if let's say you're in a sec right Georgia, Yeah, 461 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: has some some offenses, some players, you know, and every 462 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: once in a while have a guy. Um Florida will 463 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: have a guy every once in a while. But the 464 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: hard part when you make the transition to the national 465 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: football at corner is that, okay, the the level of 466 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: talent that you're facing is what you have never seen yet, 467 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 1: and it's every week and it's every week. But then 468 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: you also have to add in the complexity complexities of 469 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: understanding your game plan. So now you're trying to learn 470 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do against a great player. That's 471 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: not easy to do, you know, So what we're seeing 472 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: is exactly that with Tyson Campbell. We're seeing a young 473 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: player struggle and he's just got to continue to work 474 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: and bring the lunch pail and continue to work to 475 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: get better. And I think he will because I think 476 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: he's built that way. Our final thought on the Jaguars 477 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: defense versus the Seahawks offense. Gino Smith started the game 478 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: with fourteen consecutive completions, the longest streak to start a 479 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: game by any quarterback in the National Football League this season, 480 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: and he finished with a career high completion percentage twenty 481 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: of twenty four passing probably a yards. He did throw 482 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,919 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns. It was all if Fish shows 483 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 1: his halftime numbers, it was his game. That was end 484 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: the game numbers. Well, I mean you might as well 485 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 1: have said that that was his happen I mean, what 486 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: was Tell me what he did? Do you have the 487 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 1: half numbers number? By that? I asked that because Seattle 488 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: totally took their foot off gas pedal at half time. 489 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: He was fourteen and fifteen at half they took their 490 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 1: foot off the gas pedal. I mean, they're up three 491 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: scores and you know they had the two possessions into 492 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: the second half, they'd scored again and what did it 493 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 1: go four to nothing? Then at that point Seattle said, okay, 494 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: we're just gonna hand the ball off. And I think 495 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: they had three straight run plays of the extra right, 496 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: that's right. So I know that, you know, the defense 497 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: made some comments that you know, they felt good about 498 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: their second half level of play, but it was it 499 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 1: wasn't the same was Seattle. I don't think they were 500 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: concerned at that point. I don't think so either. It 501 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: didn't feel that because their defense was dominating the Jaguars offense. 502 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a struggle for the 503 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,120 Speaker 1: Jaguars offense. And we talked about it before the game, 504 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: we talked about it during the game, and that Seattle's defense, 505 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,679 Speaker 1: if you look at their ranking as you're looking at 506 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: the wrong thing. And the reason I we say that 507 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: is because in the first five weeks of the season, 508 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: Seattle was terrible. They had no team in the league 509 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: had given up more yards then the Seattle Seahawks defense. 510 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: I want to say it was the tune I wrote 511 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: it down four over four and fifty yards a game. 512 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: But in the last couple of games prior to facing 513 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: the Jaguars. They were only allowing eight teen points a 514 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 1: game the last four games. Going into the Jaguars game, 515 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: they were the number one defense in the National Football 516 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: League at third down percentage allowed. Their takeaways were getting better. 517 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: They have two I'm talking great players. Bobby Wagner in 518 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: that game was incredible, Okay, Jamal Adams was incredible, and 519 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,239 Speaker 1: the Jaguars got dominated by that defense. That was the 520 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: story of the game. When Trevor Lawrence looks like he's 521 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: lost in her own bad balls and and he's having 522 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: used timeouts because that's just something that we haven't seen 523 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: out of that offense, Well, let's come back and delve 524 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: into that a little bit more. James Robinson banged up 525 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: in the game, might have changed some of the idea 526 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: um but they had on offense. And as you said, 527 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,960 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence threw the ball fifty four times. That's not ideal, 528 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: not ideal for any quarterback, much less a rookie. Check 529 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: out the Official Jaguars Podcast Network. It's a free subscription 530 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: on Apple, iTunes or Spotify or wherever you download pods. 531 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 1: Give us that five star rating as always, and this 532 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports 533 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:48,480 Speaker 1: Book Digital Network. I think it just goes to show, um, 534 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: she don't come out and ready to play and you 535 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: don't play well. This can happen to anybody any week. 536 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 1: You know, it doesn't matter who you're playing. You just 537 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: gotta you gotta play well. And we didn't. So I 538 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,840 Speaker 1: think that's as you know, it's not concerning. Obviously. For 539 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: for me, it's not. Um, I just because I'm in 540 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: that locker room. I'm you know, with all those guys 541 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: and see how hard we work and how we prepare, 542 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: and um, I know apart from the outside looking in, 543 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:14,880 Speaker 1: it might be, but it's it's not concerning. It's just 544 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: we played like crap today and that's gonna happen every 545 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: now and then, and um, but I can't let this 546 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: happen again for sure. It's pretty straightforward. From Trevor Lawrence, 547 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: Jaguars quarterback, after the Laws in Seattle this past Sunday 548 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: and welcome back, It's Jaguars Happy Our Coming up at 549 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,479 Speaker 1: five o'clock the Urban Meyers Show on the Jaguars Radio Network, 550 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 1: we'll hear from the Jaguars head coach get his final 551 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on the Laws in Seattle and then look ahead 552 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: to the Buffalo Bills coming up. Jaguars Game Day broadcast 553 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: are presented by vices Star Credit Union and the Jaguars 554 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: will face the Bills this week. We'll, as we said, 555 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: we'll get to that a little bit later. The top team. 556 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: We could argue they are the top team in the 557 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: a f C coming in next week. We touched on 558 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: the offense at the end of that last little bit there. 559 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence was forced to throw fifty four times in 560 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: the game. James Lawrence banged up James Lawrence, James Robinson. 561 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: Excuse me, Trevor and James and Robinson and Lawrence, James 562 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: Robinson with a Bruce he one, sim James Lawrence JP 563 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: actually made a mistake. I did, and I own it. 564 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: Hashtag on it um Bruce heel day to day for 565 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: James Robinson. When you left the game, you know, hey, 566 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,719 Speaker 1: that that kind of changed the whole feel of what 567 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: they were trying to do. Totally changed it. I mean literally, 568 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: and you could see that the Seattle defense I think 569 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: respected the running game a little bit less. I mean, 570 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: that's how good James Robinson is. And and I know 571 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: that Urban has a history with Carlos Hyde and and 572 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: they feel pretty confident with him, but the reality is 573 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: he is not James Robinson not. I mean, the NFL 574 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 1: is about talent, and if you don't have your best 575 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: talent out there, it's hard to be at your best. 576 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: And when James went out, I thought it was a 577 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: significant loss. He is he is their best player on offense, 578 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: and that's not even debatable. At some point Trevor Lawrence 579 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: may be the best player, but right now he's not. 580 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: And for a young quarterback, you've got to have a 581 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: great offensive rushing attack, and James Robinson gives them their 582 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: best chance at that. So to not have him, I 583 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: mean that was crushing. And I think the one thing 584 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: that kind of tick me off a little bit. First 585 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: of all, it was a very legal push by Bobby 586 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: Wagner on the sideline inbounds, inbounds and it wasn't over 587 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 1: the top or anything of that nature. But where was 588 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, the Seahawks bench man catch the guy? Don't 589 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: just like open up part the scene so I can 590 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: go flying into the bend, sure something. I mean, somebody 591 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: just catched the guy professionally, have a little professional courtesy. 592 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 1: Well that's what it is. And I say that because 593 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: he's a Jaguar. But now if somebody, if Myles Jack 594 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 1: pushes a seahawk on the Jaguars bench, I'm saying, get 595 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: out of the way, say let him go. Of course 596 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: you are right, tell colored glasses you gotta so, you know. Alright. 597 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: So the longest play at offense was seventeen yards and 598 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: it was the pass of the flat to James Robinson, 599 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: which goes to show you how good he is. The 600 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: next longest play was fourteen yards. That was a run, 601 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: So nothing down the field at all. Who had to 602 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: run James Robinson, not James Lawrence. James Robinson. After that, 603 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: I mean he just said no. Nobody opened down the 604 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: field now, and when they did, they either dropped the 605 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: ball or it was out of bounds or whatever. The 606 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: case there really is is I mean, they're missing, they're 607 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: missing the vertical aspect. So and know that we've talked 608 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: about that for weeks, but it's gonna be what it is. 609 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: They didn't trade for any new guys. Well, look at 610 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,280 Speaker 1: that doesn't factor into the equation. You have to still 611 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: you still have to have a vertical element to your game. 612 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: And the reason why is it because if you have 613 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: the vertical element, it makes the area bigger that the 614 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: defense has to cover. Well, yeah, you see what I'm saying. Yeah, 615 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: see what I'm saying. I see Let me use my 616 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: Doug mussy. Yes, I do know what I'm saying. What 617 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: are we doing? It's another dug is um. But what 618 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 1: it does it makes the defense honor the back part 619 00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: of the field and it opens up the windows everywhere 620 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: from their closer back to the line of scrimmage. And 621 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: right now they really don't have a vertical element to 622 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 1: their passing game. And and you know, look at it. 623 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: It's not just because d J. Chark is on injured 624 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: reserve because he wasn't just the are there, but they 625 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: have kept guys on this roster because they supposedly had 626 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: great speed. Okay, and where is that speed at? I mean, look, 627 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,720 Speaker 1: Tyron Johnson active in the game, supposedly has great speed. 628 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: We haven't seen anything vertical with him. You've got James 629 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: Jamal Agnew who has he's a separation, he gets great separation, 630 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: he's got speed. I mean, you want to see something 631 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 1: to where the receivers are running go routes, which the 632 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: go routes are just straight down the field they go. 633 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: And the reason that go routes have to be a 634 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: part of the game. It stretches the defense out number 635 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: one and it makes defenses honor that. And then when 636 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: you throw the ball on go routes, a couple of 637 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: things can happen. Hey, you might get a completion. You 638 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: might that'd be good. A second thing is that you 639 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: gave maybe get an interference. That would be also nice, 640 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: just as good. And then the other thing could happen 641 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: is that you could be an incompletion and no penalty 642 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: and that's okay, okay, let's line up again, play, Or 643 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,799 Speaker 1: it could be intercepted. That'd be bad. That could be bad. 644 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: But I mean I think that that's but that's three 645 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: good things and one bad thing. That's part of why 646 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: you mean, I mean Al Davis, God Rest his soul. 647 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: Al Davis always believed in the vertical element of the game. 648 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: I mean, that was and he I mean he he 649 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: gave the marching orders to his personnel, guys, his coaching 650 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 1: staff the ball must be thrown deep and that's and 651 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: he was right. I mean, he was totally right. And 652 00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: that's in the seventies. Even Bill Walsh, who had this 653 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: controlled passing attack had the vertical element to it. John Taylor, Okay, 654 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't just Jerry Rice on slants and little crossing routes. 655 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,359 Speaker 1: John Taylor was a guy they could go. So even 656 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh had a vertical element to his passing game, 657 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: and in this offense. In the last couple of games, 658 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: we haven't seen a lot of that vertical element. That's 659 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: in fact, that's a note that I've made after like 660 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: the last three games. I've heard this before. Where's the 661 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: vertical element to the passing attack? Do you yeah, that's 662 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,480 Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, do you work it in 663 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean working more in the game plan. Maybe it's 664 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: in the game plan and it's covered and they just 665 00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: can't make the throw down field, you know. I mean, okay, 666 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: well at some point you can't force it into three defenders. Right. Well, 667 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: I haven't watched the tape, but like I mean, are 668 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: they isn't there? Are they trying? They're they're not. They're 669 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: not trying as much I think, as as you probably 670 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: would like. And especially when you and here's the thing 671 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,440 Speaker 1: that's gonna be more difficult going forward. Most of your 672 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 1: deep routes or vertical aspect of the passing game and 673 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: not always, but the percentages are more from play action. So, 674 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: now of a sudden, if you're missing your best running 675 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: back and the most respected part of your running game, 676 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna run down hill and chase the faith. Now 677 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,839 Speaker 1: what happens. What happens to that play action where you're 678 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,919 Speaker 1: trying to take shot down the field? Well, uh, send 679 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: more games to figure something out on that side. We'll 680 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: come back in a moment and talk about the a 681 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 1: f C South is it? Is it out of control? Now? 682 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,640 Speaker 1: Do the Titans have it? Or does the injury that 683 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry change matters? Great question, we'll find out, great question, 684 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: but we'll talk about it when we come back. If 685 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: you're looking for the m v P of the truck game, 686 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: then look no further than board AP one fifty. It's 687 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: loaded with impressive capability and designed to dominate, work, play 688 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,280 Speaker 1: and everything in between. And this truck makes tough look easy, 689 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: no wonder. It's the official truck of the NFL and 690 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 1: proud partner of your Jacksonville Jaguars the Baptist Health Injury 691 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 1: Report as well. When we come back, it's Jaguars Happy 692 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,920 Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Hard Rock Sports Book, Digital Network. 693 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: It's very funny thing. That's something we worked, you know, 694 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: even over the bye week and we got better. But yeah, 695 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: that's demoralizing. You go on the road and the offense 696 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,320 Speaker 1: moves the ball we've put. You know, that would have 697 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: been good to down at inside of five. We've been 698 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 1: really good at that and making god the field it 699 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,479 Speaker 1: goes in the end zone and taking down the field 700 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: and spoor and then uh score again. So Gino had 701 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 1: a he's a streetly player and he was streaky at first. 702 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean there's time we even had a guy doubled 703 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 1: and he stuck one in there. Um, but those are 704 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: two good receivers and we gotta play better and and 705 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: uh but we played you know, the tale of two 706 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 1: house on defense. That's head coach Urban Meyer earlier this 707 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: week and welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. We'll hear 708 00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,040 Speaker 1: from head coach Urban Meyer on the Urban Myer the 709 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,360 Speaker 1: show I'd lead up. That's at five o'clock on the 710 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:06,240 Speaker 1: Jaguars Radio Network every Tuesday. Hello, lot, Well, the special 711 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 1: teams that he talks about, what was a very good 712 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: uh the first drive player. He's referring to you got 713 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: a really nice punt by Logan Cook and an opportunity 714 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: with Rudy Ford to catch the ball at the phone. Yeah, 715 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: so here's a great chance to back up Seattle play 716 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,439 Speaker 1: some field position, because if you can get great field 717 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: position like that, then it kind of can tip the 718 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: scales for field position throughout the game or at least 719 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: throughout the near future. And he doesn't catch it, it 720 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 1: bounces the ground and rolls into the end zones. So 721 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: now you lose. You lose fifteen yards and field position. There, 722 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: you had a uh illegal formation on a punch pel 723 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: Russell lined up too deep. He's a tackle. He's got 724 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: to be on the line of scrimmage. That's a mental error. 725 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: I mean, when you can't get lined up properly, then 726 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 1: that's a mental error and you can't have that. I mean, 727 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: that's I mean that one there. I think you gotta say, hey, 728 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: that falls on coaching. And then you had a penalty 729 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: on the kick return which backed the Jaguars up to 730 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 1: the eight. That was I think right prior to that 731 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,040 Speaker 1: penalty on Chappelle Russell. And then at the end, you 732 00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: know you have the onside kick, which is questionable even 733 00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: to do that. We've talked about that, but then you 734 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,319 Speaker 1: allow that to be returned for a touchdown. So it 735 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: was it was not a good day for special teams 736 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: and it was not a good day for the offense 737 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: in particular. Veterans. Choose v A for the benefits you've earned. 738 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: Visit choose dot v A dot gov. And let's take 739 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: a look now at the Baptist Health injury report Baptist 740 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 1: Health changing healthcare for good. Urban Meyer on Monday talked 741 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: about James Robinson's heel injury set us day to day. 742 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 1: We'll see the Jags did claim divide a zigbo off waivers. 743 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,600 Speaker 1: They've had him here before, and we'll see moving ahead 744 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 1: what Robinson's feeling is. But then it's a long schedule ahead, 745 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: and you know, do you want to throw him out 746 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,759 Speaker 1: there right away? Do you want to give him another 747 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 1: week and just make sure I think no, No, James 748 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: Robinson with the injury, that's all gonna be a medical decision. Sure, 749 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: But even if it's a question at all, you set 750 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: him down right, if it's all I can go, I'm seventy, 751 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:20,399 Speaker 1: do you let him Go's not good enough? No? No, no, no, no, 752 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,839 Speaker 1: that's uh he'll say he's it's just his personality. And 753 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: here's the thing. I mean, I look, they say hill bruise, 754 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: but here's the reality. You don't have to reveal exactly 755 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: what it is. I mean, it can be a plan 756 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: our fascionists and you say he'll bruise because I mean, 757 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,239 Speaker 1: in reality that could you got heal pain and you've 758 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,960 Speaker 1: got inflammation there, so you can say, well, that's a 759 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 1: hill brewis. I mean, you just don't know exactly what 760 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: it is. But I will tell you this. You've got 761 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: a running back and he's got a foot problems where 762 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: it all begins, it's not good. I mean, that's like 763 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: the worst injury that you can have if you're running 764 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: back or if you're a skill position player, is a 765 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: foot injury. I mean, last time I check act. You 766 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: gotta run, that's part. That's what the the name of 767 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: the run. You need a foot you need actually you 768 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: probably need a couple of them. I just hope he's okay, 769 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: because James is such a such a good player, you know, 770 00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: and he's like I said, he's the best player saidence before. 771 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: He's the best player that they have on offense, not 772 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: even close. Urban also earlier said this week that you know, 773 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,960 Speaker 1: Lender is getting closer. You know the m c L 774 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 1: is he be Now what was that game injury weeks 775 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: four weeks It was against Cincinnati, right, Yeah, they said 776 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: the m c L is better now, but it's the 777 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: high ankles. So that was mean if you want to 778 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:49,080 Speaker 1: three times game yea three three weeks ago. Yeah, and 779 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: he had what was reported to be a knee and 780 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: then high ankle. Okay, high ankles are four to six. 781 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,919 Speaker 1: That's that's the what's remaining, according to Urban on Monday. Yeah, 782 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: so that's gonna be gonna be a while. Let's take 783 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,600 Speaker 1: a look at the AFC South and start with the 784 00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: results from this past weekend, and of course we know 785 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,839 Speaker 1: what happened in Seattle, the Seahawks over the Jaguars one 786 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,600 Speaker 1: seven overtime game. In Indy, the Tennessee Titans get an 787 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 1: interception off Carson went in overtime and set up the 788 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,120 Speaker 1: game winning field goal thirty four thirty one the final 789 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 1: and then Derrick Henry with a foot injury surgery out 790 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: indefinitely and the Rams. Of course, we're up thirty eight 791 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: nothing on the Texans. The Texans scored twenty fourth quarter 792 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: points to make the score closer. But it was all 793 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,400 Speaker 1: Rams all day against the Texans. So we look now 794 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: the a f C South standings after week eight and 795 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: it's Tennessee in command of the a f C South 796 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: at the top of the division. Now, of course, after 797 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: that went over the Colts, they have a sizeable lead 798 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: over Indy in a second place in the division. The 799 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: Titans at six and two, Indy at three and five, 800 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: the Jags at one in six in Houston at one 801 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:04,040 Speaker 1: and seven. So six and two, three and five, that's 802 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: first a second place. And we look at the upcoming 803 00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 1: schedules and weeks nine through thirteen for the a f 804 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 1: C South. We know the Jags schedule ahead Buffalo, Indie, 805 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: San fran The Texans are at Miami by week at 806 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: Tennessee their toast anyway, Indy, the Jets, the Jaguars both 807 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: at home there at Buffalo that's a tough one, and 808 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: then Tennessee at the Rams. What a game that'll be, 809 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: and then New Orleans and Houston both in Nashville. Those 810 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: are the next three weeks. Now the question with without 811 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,480 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry Adrian Peterson I guess has been signed to 812 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:41,200 Speaker 1: the practice squad officially in Tennessee. You know, can Tennessee 813 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: maintained this lead? Is this a lead too big to 814 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,239 Speaker 1: overcome for Indianapolis in the division considering Derrick Henry might 815 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: be done for a long time. Did you see the 816 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 1: interception that Carson went through? That not good? That's something 817 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 1: that you would expect to see out of a rookie quarterback. 818 00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,879 Speaker 1: It was terrible. Yes, it was so. I mean, I look, 819 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:10,240 Speaker 1: I'd like to say that, Hey, look, Tennessee with Derrick Henry, 820 00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,879 Speaker 1: they're in trouble. But who's gonna catch it? Are they? 821 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: I mean, they're in trouble. I think after the season's over, 822 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: in the postseason without here's the reality. Derrick Henry is 823 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: their offense. He is their entire offense. Are they capable 824 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:30,799 Speaker 1: of surviving without him? I think Tanny Hill is a 825 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: good quarterback. Not a great quarterback, but he's a good quarterback. 826 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,920 Speaker 1: He's got some really good weapons when they're healthy. A J. Brown, 827 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:43,440 Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Tight ends are pretty solid. He's got running 828 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: back that can catch the ball out of the backfield. 829 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: So can they survive? Yeah? I think they can survive, 830 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: But they need to find somebody because that's their identity. 831 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,320 Speaker 1: Their identity is running the football. They gotta find somebody 832 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: that can replace some of the production of Derrick Henry Kin. 833 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: Adrian Peter person be that guy. I don't know. I mean, 834 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,880 Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is the last time I saw he was 835 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 1: still a good back. But he's not Derek Kennerman. He's 836 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,560 Speaker 1: like old as you are. Kennry has bailed out that 837 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: team on more occasions then you can shake a stick act. 838 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: I mean, he's that good. So but yeah, can the 839 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,360 Speaker 1: Colts catch him? No? I mean, look, I know that 840 00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:32,279 Speaker 1: Frank Wright Carson Wentz have a great relationship, but that 841 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: relationship didn't help Carson Wentz on that interception. I mean, seriously, 842 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 1: that was the worst. And I mean it's trun almost 843 00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 1: had one of them Seattle. I know, I know. It's 844 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: one play in one game. Bad decision, bad decision by 845 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: Carson Wentzon. And Trevor is gonna learn that you don't 846 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: do that. I mean he threw it up, you know, 847 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 1: and you can't. You just can't do that. And uh, 848 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:59,839 Speaker 1: the Rams thirty eight zip on the Texans, Well, well 849 00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: the Texans, you know, you know what they're saying right now. 850 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,240 Speaker 1: We don't really happy about our protection in the fourth quarter. 851 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,880 Speaker 1: You know, we got better in the fourth quarter. We 852 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,879 Speaker 1: scored twenty two points in the fourth quarter. I'm sure 853 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: that's what they're saying. That's what they're saying. I know 854 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: it's not and what and what do you say to 855 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,479 Speaker 1: that garbage? Garbage? I can say a lot of things 856 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,880 Speaker 1: to that, but um, yeah, they're out of it. The 857 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: Rams though, of course, after that win, go out and 858 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 1: trade for von Miller and they're going all in in 859 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: a very competitive NFC West Division. They feel like, hey, 860 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 1: they got the quarterback. Now let's go get von Miller, 861 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: rent him for a couple of months and see what happens. 862 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: And they're all in in l A. It's gonna be 863 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,480 Speaker 1: interesting to watch. It would be interesting to watch. And 864 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,440 Speaker 1: you know what's also going to be interesting to listen to. 865 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: Coming up is the Urban Meyer Show, and just about 866 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: a minute or so, we'll hear from the Jaguar's head coach, 867 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 1: get his final thoughts on what happened in Seattle, and 868 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: then look ahead to the Buffalo bit. I'll guarantee you 869 00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: that he is not going to be a happy coach. 870 00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know how he could be coming 871 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: out of that game you ca I mean, you have 872 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: terrible performance and you know you got out played and 873 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,080 Speaker 1: you got out coached. It was not it was not 874 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 1: a good day and so not not a good day 875 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 1: to have a coaching show when you have a game 876 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,879 Speaker 1: like that. Prior to it. We'll hear from Urban coming 877 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 1: up in just a moment on the Urban Meyers Show 878 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,839 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Radio Network. That'll do it for Jaguars 879 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: Happy Hour thanks to Joe Fortunado, Brett Reebert, Jeff Flagg. 880 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,520 Speaker 1: But I'm J. P. Shadrick and this is the Jaguars 881 00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: Hard Rock Sports Book Digital Network