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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if anyone is ever going to see

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Speaker 2: this video, but hi, my name is Haley, and Charlie

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Speaker 2: Kirk's death led me to give my life fully to

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Speaker 2: Jesus Christ. Charlie's death really ignited a spiritual flame inside

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Speaker 2: of me that I have never, never in my life

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Speaker 2: experienced before. It is, it's like a spiritual switch.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know Charlie Kirk, never met that guy before

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Speaker 3: in my life. And something else that I've never done

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Speaker 3: before in my life is believing God.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to wear this suit to church.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to go to church. I'm going to try

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Speaker 3: to be a better father, husband, and leader for my family.

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Speaker 5: I've never ever opened the Bible before. In fact, I

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Speaker 5: know nothing about Christianity or Jesus. But yesterday, after witnessing

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Speaker 5: the assassination of Charlie Kirk, I something was calling me

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Speaker 5: to my husband's Bible.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to be heading to church here shortly.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to go and learn and get to meet

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Speaker 3: new people.

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Speaker 6: Something that I've been wanting to do for a while.

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Speaker 7: So the first time ive ever in over fifteen years,

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Speaker 7: I'm going to church it has been so heavy on

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Speaker 7: my heart that I just needed something so after Charlie

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Speaker 7: Kirk's death, is seeing what this world truly is. Now's

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Speaker 7: the time, there's no more waiting.

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Speaker 2: This was my first time going to church in almost

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Speaker 2: seven years, maybe even more than seven years.

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Speaker 4: I went to church today because of Charlie.

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Speaker 2: Kirk and his family.

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Speaker 8: I am heading to church today. Have my Bible today.

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Speaker 8: There was literally dust on the cover when I pulled

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Speaker 8: it out. I've seen so many videos this week of

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Speaker 8: Charlie talking about how time and time again like he

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Speaker 8: wants to be known for his faith above all else.

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Speaker 8: And I'm trying to be more of like Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 8: And maybe if someone sees this video, they'll be encouraged

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Speaker 8: to walk back into a church today too.

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Speaker 9: And we are ready for church now. I've not been

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Speaker 9: to church in years. Today will be my son's first day,

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Speaker 9: first time in the church. And today is the first

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Speaker 9: time that me and my fiance together collectively of going

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Speaker 9: to church. Today is the first day that my family family,

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Speaker 9: He's going to church. So this is all what goes

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Speaker 9: of Charlie and his gospel, his words, and today starts

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Speaker 9: our turning point.

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Speaker 10: I just arrived at church for the first time in

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Speaker 10: a very long time.

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Speaker 11: I needed some kind of refuge, some kind of you know,

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Speaker 11: hope that not all is lost.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's Sunday morning, and I'm going to church for

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Speaker 12: the first time in about twelve years. I'm about to

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Speaker 12: do something that I have not done in twenty five years,

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Speaker 12: and I have never done with my own coalition.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to church.

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Speaker 6: Good morning.

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Speaker 5: I thought i'd come on quick and give an update

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Speaker 5: of what I'm doing today because I'm actually.

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Speaker 10: Really excited and really looking forward to it.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually headed to church for Sunday service for the

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Speaker 5: first time in.

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Speaker 13: A long time.

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Speaker 8: I just went to church for the first time in

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Speaker 8: several years.

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Speaker 10: At tickets to see Charlie. October twenty ninth, old Miss.

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Speaker 10: I was really looking forward to it. I've been a

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Speaker 10: lifelong atheist. I never believed in God, but I saw

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Speaker 10: the joy that it brought to Charlie, and it brought

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Speaker 10: me to God and really moved me to see him.

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Speaker 10: And I was looking forward to meeting him and telling

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Speaker 10: him you helped me find God.

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Speaker 9: After ten years not reading any scripture, not stopping foot

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Speaker 9: in church, not even making a prior.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk is the main reason for me climbing my

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Speaker 2: faith again.

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Speaker 1: You don't think it's crazy to get in church.

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Speaker 9: Here's the line for the second service, and there's never

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Speaker 9: a line.

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Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, there's never a line.

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Speaker 14: Okay, there's never been a line here, Charlie Kirk.

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Speaker 1: Look what you did. No parking, No parking at all none.

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Speaker 1: How to park like five blocks away from church because

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Speaker 1: everyone wants to come.

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Speaker 4: Now, Amen, think of Jesus, think of Charlie.

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Speaker 15: Every day there is a battle for your mind, raging

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Speaker 15: information coming from every angle, but the will to deceive,

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Speaker 15: fear not. You found the place for truth, the voice

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Speaker 15: of a generation that still has the will to believe

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Speaker 15: in the greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 15: This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 4: Fuck a lot, here we.

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Speaker 16: Go a lot, all right, Welcome to Charlie Kirks Show'm

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Speaker 16: Andrew Covet, executive producer of this fine show, and we

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Speaker 16: have had quite a weekend. I will tell you that

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Speaker 16: watching if you were watching on Real America's Voice around

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Speaker 16: the stream, you saw an intro that our team put

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Speaker 16: together talking about how many people are going back to

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Speaker 16: church because of what happened to Charlie. And you've heard

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Speaker 16: a lot of people talking about revival. You've been talking,

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Speaker 16: You've been hearing a lot of people bring up that

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Speaker 16: God is working in their hearts for the first time

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Speaker 16: in a long time, that they're opening their Bible. So

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Speaker 16: I wanted to have a show devoted to that question.

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Speaker 16: What is revival? What does it mean? What are the

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Speaker 16: necessary ingredients that make up a revival? And how do

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Speaker 16: we ensure that we do all that we can to

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Speaker 16: press into it and pour into it and so that

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Speaker 16: it grows and grows and grows.

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Speaker 1: How do we not thwart the spirit?

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Speaker 16: So joining me today are two men that know all

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Speaker 16: about that topic, and they've studied it and they know

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Speaker 16: much more than I do about it. So and by

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Speaker 16: the way, one of which book that we mentioned last

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Speaker 16: week because it was one of Charlie's favorites, and that's

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Speaker 16: Doctrine by Pastor Mark Driscoll.

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Speaker 1: So welcome Pastor Mark, good.

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Speaker 4: To see everybody. Thanks for having it.

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Speaker 17: Thank you for your team. Just cannot even imagine the

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Speaker 17: difficulty of processing the grief of the loss of someone

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Speaker 17: that you love and also the increased workloads. So thank

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Speaker 17: you for leading the team and praying for you and

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Speaker 17: Erica and everybody.

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Pastor Mark. We feel the prayers.

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Speaker 16: I think I told you before that this is the

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Speaker 16: first time in my life where I could say I

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Speaker 16: feel the prayer of strangers all around the country and world.

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Speaker 16: And I think that's, you know, a big part of

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Speaker 16: what you're seeing us pull off, and whether it be

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Speaker 16: the memorial or getting the show together and growing the

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Speaker 16: tour and so many things. I'm so proud of the team.

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Speaker 16: So I'm with you on that. And then Pastor Josh McPherson.

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Speaker 1: Did I get it?

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Speaker 6: You got it?

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Speaker 16: Sort of, She's gonna be nice about it. And you're

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Speaker 16: up in state of Washington. Yeah, when actually, and you

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Speaker 16: have strongerman Nation dot com, Strongermannation dot com, and you've

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Speaker 16: been in and around t posa faith and some of

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Speaker 16: the team with us. So honored to have you as

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Speaker 16: well to talk about this. I know you preached about

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Speaker 16: revival over the weekend.

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Speaker 6: Yes, it's an honor to be here and just echo

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Speaker 6: what Mark said, marveling at the strength and grace of

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Speaker 6: your team in light of the events. And I'm very

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Speaker 6: grateful what you guys are doing and here to.

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Speaker 1: Serve well that's that's amazing.

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Speaker 16: So, pastor Mark, start with you. You watched the intro

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Speaker 16: and I it was and if you shared radio, please

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Speaker 16: check out the stream later and check it out. It's

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Speaker 16: basically clip after clip after clip of people that don't

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Speaker 16: look like that, you know, probably the image a lot

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Speaker 16: And yet here they are being so dramatically impacted by

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Speaker 16: the legacy of Charlie and the life he lied, the

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Speaker 16: message he preached. Are we seeing this at the local

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Speaker 16: level with your guys's communities that you pastor, can you

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Speaker 16: see are you hearing about it from other pastors that

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Speaker 17: Yeah, So start maybe at a higher level. So, a

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Speaker 17: martyr is someone who dies for their faith. And so

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Speaker 17: the Bible is written in a couple of ancient languages,

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Speaker 17: one of them is Greek, and the word means witness

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Speaker 17: or testimony. And you know that somebody really believes something

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Speaker 17: when they're willing to die for it. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 17: ultimate allegiance that you can demonstrate. And so the first

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Speaker 17: saints in the history of the Christian Church were martyrs.

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Speaker 17: They were people who were basically willing to die for

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Speaker 17: their love and devotion to Jesus Christ as God and

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Speaker 17: Lord and savior. And so the first Christians, they died

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Speaker 17: between five and ten million martyrs.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 17: Wow, I mean, so we just had we just had

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Speaker 17: a funeral for a great man. Imagine five or ten

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Speaker 17: martyrs is the sea to the church. And so the

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Speaker 17: reason that Christianity spread so wildly and rapidly is people

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Speaker 17: no longer fear death. That's right, and so you know

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Speaker 17: there is a mockery even of death. And one Corinthians fifteen,

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Speaker 17: worow death is your sting, worow death is your victory.

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Speaker 1: Said that my speech, Actually you did, and.

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Speaker 17: You did a great job, and I want to honor

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Speaker 17: you for that. And so within that, once Jesus came

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Speaker 17: back from death, the believers no longer fear death because

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Speaker 17: Jesus Christ. That is the issue. And so once death

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Speaker 17: willing to die for Jesus. And that was an incredible

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Speaker 17: witness and testimony. And so when Charlie died, he died publicly.

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Speaker 17: I can't think of a more public death in my lifetime,

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Speaker 17: and it was surreal for me and I'm sure for

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Speaker 17: most watching on the phone going is AI, is this

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Speaker 17: not real? This can't be real. I'm praying Lord Jesus, please,

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Speaker 17: I hope it is not real. But Charlie loved Jesus

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Speaker 17: Christ and his highest allegiance and devotion was to Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 17: You know that, I know that. And so when it

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Speaker 17: to talk about Jesus because Jesus was the person Charlie

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Speaker 17: what I really honor about Charlie and I really appreciate

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Speaker 17: about Erica. They pointed everybody who was following them in

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Speaker 17: the right place, get a Bible, go to church, keep going.

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Speaker 17: Eric has said, And now people are actually following their

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Speaker 17: leadership and their example, which is incredibly honoring to the

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Speaker 17: Lord Jesus, and there'll be incredible blessing that comes upon

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Speaker 6: That's right, that's right. We're seeing it on a local level.

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Speaker 6: I'm in touch with you know, over fifty pastors and

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Speaker 6: different text threads, talking constantly, and there's been a series

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Speaker 6: I think of tests for churches and pastors in the

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Speaker 6: last five years, COVID, different administrations.

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Speaker 17: You know, you say it's for like like COVID was

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Speaker 17: a test. COVID was a test, so then Black Lives

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Speaker 17: Matter was a test. Yeah, the election was a test,

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Speaker 17: and the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk. Those are four tests

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Speaker 17: for pastors and churches.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly right. And pastors who are passing the test

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Speaker 6: being more clear, setting forth the truth plainly, not worrying

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Speaker 16: All right, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show radio

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Speaker 18: the Commander in chief expects both sides to agree. Quote

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Speaker 18: President Trump also set to meet with top congressional leaders today,

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Speaker 1: The next Great Awakening is here.

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Speaker 16: wanted this. He wanted to see the youth. He devoted

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Speaker 16: his life from the time of being eighteen. And he

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Speaker 16: fool's errand and he just kept at it.

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Speaker 1: He just kept at it. He just kept at it.

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Speaker 16: And then all of a sudden, you saw that spring fourth,

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Speaker 16: and I was relating to you that story of John Wimber,

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Speaker 16: who founded the Vineyard and he really wanted to see

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Speaker 16: God's miracles. We could debate the merits of whether that

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Speaker 16: was useful or not, but he worked at it like

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Speaker 16: a fool for four.

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Speaker 6: Years, pure hunger and desire.

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Speaker 1: Sure, hunger and desire.

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Speaker 16: And then all of a sudden, if you know, if

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Speaker 16: you know anything about the Vineyard Church movement, the yeah,

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Speaker 16: it explodes worship. Yeah, and they have this Toronto blessing

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Speaker 16: and a bunch of you know, people experience a manifest

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Speaker 16: presence of the Holy Spirit there. So I'm not relating

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Speaker 16: the two, but there is this sort of thing where

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Speaker 16: I want to tell people out in the audience, if

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Speaker 16: you hunger and desire for the things of the Lord,

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Speaker 16: if you push when they're when it feels like you're

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Speaker 16: getting nowhere, sometimes God's going to answer that moment with

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Speaker 16: something truly remarkable.

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Speaker 1: I'm not promising it.

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Speaker 16: God will do what he will do, but I just

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Speaker 16: couldn't help but think about how badly Charlie wanted this

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Speaker 16: and so to see it come to fruition is amazing.

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Speaker 16: And then to hear you say that revival starts with

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Speaker 16: the youth. I mean there was you'd go to one

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Speaker 16: campus and put Charlie there, and these kids were hanging

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Speaker 16: from lamp posts and finding stairs to climb up and

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Speaker 16: hanging on railing and you couldn't fit them all in

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Speaker 16: these campus squares, and it just it feels like that's

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Speaker 16: what's happening. And then you put together the final thing,

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Speaker 16: and then the floor is yours. Marc Is when we met,

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Speaker 16: you said, well, we're going to see is God going

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Speaker 16: to bypass the pulpit?

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Speaker 17: So yes, I believe that. So in addition to revival,

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Speaker 17: there's reformation. So reformation is God pruning, cleaning up a

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Speaker 17: church oftentimes because of its cowardice or tolerance, and tolerance

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Speaker 17: is the counterfeit of repentance. And so any of the

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Speaker 17: churches that have brought in it sort of bought into

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Speaker 17: the progressive agenda of tolerance. They are not honoring God

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Speaker 17: because that is the counterfeit of repentance. And so I

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Speaker 17: believe that reformation is God clean up the church, and

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Speaker 17: then revival is God bringing people to himself. But if

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Speaker 17: people want to go to church, if the church doesn't

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Speaker 17: have any courage or clarity. It's not going to be

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Speaker 17: helpful to those new people. And so this is I

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Speaker 17: believe what God is doing is he is in this moment.

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Speaker 17: He has bypassed the pulpits and he instead chose to

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Speaker 17: have the Gospel preached in the largest platform in the

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Speaker 17: history of the world. And there's two things, actually three

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Speaker 17: things I want to say about that. Number one, when

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Speaker 17: we had lunch and you know, it was just good

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Speaker 17: to catch up with you, there was one thing that

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Speaker 17: I felt that the Holy Spirit told me to tell you,

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Speaker 17: and that is that whoever decided to allow the live

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Speaker 17: stream of Charlie's funeral and memorial to not be copyrighted

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Speaker 17: but to be freely shared, to say thank you on

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Speaker 17: behalf of Jesus Christ, because that permitted the biggest gospel

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Speaker 17: presentation in my awareness of any.

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Speaker 4: Moment in the history humanity of humanity.

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Speaker 17: And I believe you made that decision to allow it

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Speaker 17: to be streamed and not copyrighted. And for those who

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Speaker 17: are tuning in, there's money, there's power, there's favors that

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Speaker 17: can be curried through taking that moment and trying to

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Speaker 17: monetize it. And what you chose to do was maximize it.

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Speaker 17: And so in that moment, we as pastors honor you

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Speaker 17: because in that moment you decided I'm going to allow

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Speaker 17: the most people to hear about Jesus and not worry

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Speaker 17: about what I get in return. And so I know

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Speaker 17: I was your pastor for some years and I love you,

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Speaker 17: and I just want to say I'm incredibly proud of

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Speaker 17: you and on behalf of Jesus Christ and Christians. Thank

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Speaker 17: you for being the person who allowed the Gospel to

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Speaker 17: go out to the largest audience in the history of humanity.

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Speaker 17: And most people don't know that that was your choice,

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Speaker 17: and I know it was with Erica's full support totally.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, it wasn't just me, you know, but the whole

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Speaker 16: team didn't even question when it was like, no, we

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Speaker 16: got to go forward and this is forever buddy for

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Speaker 16: the gospel.

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Speaker 17: But then to they're not to interrupting, my friend. But

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Speaker 17: the moment that if revival does break out, where there

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Speaker 17: was I believe a shifting breaking in the unseen.

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Speaker 4: Realm was Erica Kirk.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 17: She was elegant, courageous, emotionally present, completely appropriate, devotedly loyal

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Speaker 17: to her God and her husband and her family. But

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Speaker 17: the moment was when she chose forgiveness over unforgiveness and

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Speaker 17: bitterness and vengeance. And to me, revival is all about

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Speaker 17: the forgiveness of sin. Yes, and she modeled, if she

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Speaker 17: can this is like, I want to be careful with this.

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Speaker 17: I want to turn Charlie into Jesus. I know that

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Speaker 17: Charlie knew that he was in Jesus. But when when

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Speaker 17: Jesus was on the cross, he prayed, Father, forgive them.

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Speaker 17: When Steven the martyr was being martyred is the first

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Speaker 17: martyr the New Testament Church. He echoed Jesus' words and

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Speaker 17: he said, Father, forgive them. And and then when Erica said,

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Speaker 17: I forgive him, forgiveness of sin is what unleashes the

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Speaker 17: power of the Holy Spirit. And revival is all about

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Speaker 17: one thing, the forgiveness of sin through Jesus Christ. And

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Speaker 17: so in that moment, Erica used the platform that God

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Speaker 17: gave her. And in that moment God bypassed many pulpits.

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Speaker 17: And there was more courage and clarity with the presentation

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Speaker 17: of Jesus on that day than in many pulpits. And

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Speaker 17: we were sitting there next we kept looking at each other.

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Speaker 17: We're pastors and it was wild.

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Speaker 4: It was just it was.

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Speaker 17: Like, is anybody not going to do I mean, is

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Speaker 17: everybody here an evangelist?

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Speaker 4: I mean it was wild.

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Speaker 1: And here, who's you know, not a Christian?

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Speaker 16: She tried, She's about to preach the guy.

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Speaker 4: And I'll leave it at this.

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Speaker 17: The second, the second moment to me that was incredibly

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Speaker 17: sacred and could be the spark of revival was the

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Speaker 17: humility of Jdvans when he said, basically, I'm paraphrasing that

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Speaker 17: I've always been a Christian, but I've not spoken openly

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Speaker 17: and boldly as a and I've talked more about Jesus

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Speaker 17: in the last few weeks than I have in my

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Speaker 17: whole life. To be the vice president of the United

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Speaker 17: States of America and to publicly confess that your allegiance

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Speaker 17: to Jesus has been less than one hundred percent, you

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Speaker 17: don't have to do that. And he did that, and

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Speaker 17: he did that as an example of humility. And I

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Speaker 17: would say to all pastors and Christian leaders who maybe

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Speaker 17: have not been totally courageous and fearless, follow his example

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Speaker 17: and apologize to your people. And so in that too, though,

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Speaker 17: I mean, when JD did that, I believe that I

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Speaker 17: believe that if he is going to become our next president,

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Speaker 17: I believe that was the moment, because that was the

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Speaker 17: moment that he chose humility and to honor Jesus above

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Speaker 17: all else. And I believe Jesus honor those who live

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Speaker 17: under his authority. But you were saying backstage that that

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Speaker 17: wasn't part of his notes.

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Speaker 16: No, he had lipped that moment. Yeah, because I could

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Speaker 16: see backstage. I mean it was a surreal backstage. You

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Speaker 16: got President Trump walking around, and you know, Don Junior

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Speaker 16: and Pete, heg Seth and all these people, right, and I'm.

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Speaker 6: Watching who, by the way, preached a great sermon on

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Speaker 6: the martyr with Stephen.

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Speaker 1: He did a good job. And when.

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Speaker 17: He said said Jesus is king over all, and I'm like,

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Speaker 17: you run the Department of War and you're under authority.

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Speaker 6: That's right, I interrupted, But no.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 16: Well, I just want to I want to give JD

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Speaker 16: a little bit more, you know, kudos here. He's not

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Speaker 16: held back since there, he's changed. Check out clip eighteen.

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Speaker 1: You said that you.

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Speaker 12: Hadn't read the Bible or talked about the Bible as

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Speaker 12: much as you have in the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Since Charlie was killed.

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Speaker 19: I always felt uncomfortable talking about that because I grew

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Speaker 19: up in a country that was very secular. I don't

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Speaker 19: feel uncomfortable talking about that stuff anymore. I'm going to

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Speaker 19: talk about God. I'm going to talk about my faith

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Speaker 19: because that's what Charlie would want, and I think it's

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Speaker 19: the best way to honor my.

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Speaker 6: Friend when he said that, I had a thought. And

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Speaker 6: this is kind of for theology nerds. Aaron Wrenn wrote

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Speaker 6: an article that was kind of broke up evangelicalism into

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Speaker 6: three kind of epochs of time. Nineteen fifty four to

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Speaker 6: nineteen ninety four was positive world, where it was public,

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Speaker 6: it was socially adventuregeous to be public with your faith.

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Speaker 6: You couldn't get elected for public office unless you identify

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Speaker 6: with Protestant or Catholic Christianity. You know, all these kind

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Speaker 6: of things. Leave it to Beaver era whatever. And then

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Speaker 6: he identifies nineteen ninety four to twenty fourteen as neutral world,

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Speaker 6: where Christianity stock is kind of falling. It's not necessarily

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Speaker 6: socially advantageous to identify as a Christian anymore, but it's

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Speaker 6: not socially adventageous. Yeah, it's just neutral. So people weren't hostile,

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Speaker 6: they were just indifferent to Christianity. Right, And in twenty

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Speaker 6: fourteen he marks a distinct change. Oh, Bergafell, we have

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Speaker 6: a ruleer in the highest core of the land that's

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Speaker 6: now codifying anti Christian morality into our code of law.

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Speaker 6: So that's the change, right, any marks of other social

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Speaker 6: things where we went from culture being neutral or indifferent

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Speaker 6: towards Christianity to culture being hostile towards Christianity. So now

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Speaker 6: it wasn't just socially advantageous or neutral, it's now soldierly

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Speaker 6: disadvantageous to identify yourself as a Christian. Christians going to ground. Okay,

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Speaker 6: there's open hostility towards Christianity. And what we see is

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Speaker 6: people having a sense of moral duty to suppress Christianity

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Speaker 6: because it's evil now, right, one of the marks of

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Speaker 6: this era has been like the public offenses to go

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Speaker 6: public with your Christianity. I had the thought, just a

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Speaker 6: sense of my spirit when JD said that something broke

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Speaker 6: in the reality of neutral and he's saying, I will

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Speaker 6: now be aggressively, unapologetically, consistently, passionately, clearly public about my faith.

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Speaker 6: And when you have one of the highest authorities in

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Speaker 6: the land saying that something's changed and something shifted. And

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Speaker 6: Charlie was doing that when it was dangerous and when

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Speaker 6: it was costly, and when very few other people would

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Speaker 6: do it. And now you're seeing the propetical first right boom,

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Speaker 6: there's a there's a there's a breach in the wall.

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Speaker 6: And it feels like talking publicly about Jesus now is

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Speaker 6: could start becoming a cultural norm where it was culturally

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Speaker 6: disambanitatous before, which is pretty well. How to think about

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Speaker 6: the impact I could have is a ripples throughout the land.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, that's kind of where I was gonna go with

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Speaker 16: the next but we're already there is you know, we

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Speaker 16: have one minute here, real quick, mark.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I work.

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Speaker 16: I think people worry about the purity of the Gospel

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Speaker 16: being diluted a little bit when the leaders start happening.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I saw, though.

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Speaker 16: I saw a very sincere presentation from the heart, from

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Speaker 16: the power. Yeah, from the most powerful people on the

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Speaker 16: you know, in the planet.

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Speaker 1: And is there power in that?

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Speaker 16: I mean, obviously it's what we've always wanted, so, but

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Speaker 16: there is a concern I don't know for me that

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Speaker 16: it that it would become hijacked somehow, or.

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Speaker 17: You know, movements are messy, they just are, and there's

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Speaker 17: going to be mistakes made and then there'll be you know,

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Speaker 17: changes made, and that's just the nature of everything that

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Speaker 17: is in the process of growing and flourishing. There's a

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Speaker 17: little pruning along the way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 16: Well, because you think about the Roman Empire, right, it

732
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Speaker 16: was when it was when it was underground, it was

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Speaker 16: spreading like wildfire. When it became institutionalized, that's when you

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Speaker 16: get some corruption, get some corruptions. All right, we're going

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Speaker 16: to go to a quick break. We will be back

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Speaker 16: in just a minute. Don't go anywhere.

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Speaker 17: New wine and churches that won't talk about Charlie. They're

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Speaker 17: just proving that they're the old wine skin.

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Speaker 1: Or schools and universities.

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Speaker 16: I mean, guys, I'm getting I'm getting flooded with people.

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Speaker 16: You know, there's a story I won't I won't break it.

742
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Speaker 16: Now I'm getting a whistleblower. Just why we've been on

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Speaker 16: the show of a major company in America that won't

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Speaker 16: let their employees donate to Turning Point right now because.

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Speaker 6: They have like a match.

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Speaker 16: They won't they have a match program, right, so if

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Speaker 16: you're a company, you can donate.

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Speaker 4: Company.

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Speaker 16: I won't say yeah, I'm not ready yet. I got

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Speaker 16: to talk to them, but I'm being alerted to this,

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Speaker 16: you know. Over the weekend I highlighted Lipscomb Academy, which

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Speaker 16: is a Christian school in Nashville where a bunch of conservatives,

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Speaker 16: prominent ones send their kids to this school. And about

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Speaker 16: twenty young men showed up in suits and ties to

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Speaker 16: honor Charlie the day after he was murdered, and the

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Speaker 16: principal called him in and said, you got to take

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Speaker 16: those off.

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Speaker 6: It's it's against stress code because there's nothing worse than

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Speaker 6: young men wearing a suit and ties. Yeah, and it's funny.

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Speaker 6: I told you this before the show. There's just like

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Speaker 6: a feeling that men want to put a suit jacket on.

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Speaker 1: That's a growing want to grow up. It's a good thing.

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Speaker 16: Put your shoulders back, own your life, be a man,

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Speaker 16: move forward with dignity and respect. That's a good thing.

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Speaker 16: And this school shut it down and punish the kids.

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Speaker 16: And they haven't uttered Charlie's name sense, And so all

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Speaker 16: the parents and teachers are really upset over at lipskib Academy.

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Speaker 16: We're going to be watching you lipscom. We'll be right back,

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Speaker 16: all right, welcome back radio stations across the country.

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Speaker 1: You're about to say, Pastor Josh.

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Speaker 6: Well, we were talking earlier about okay, what happens when

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Speaker 6: the lines get blurred and government, you know, Christianity, How

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Speaker 6: this works. I think one of the things to keep

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Speaker 6: in mind is, and this is more kind of Kuyperia

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Speaker 6: and jurisdictional theology, but God has different spheres of human

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Speaker 6: sovereignty and he appoints those spheres with responsibility and authorities.

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Speaker 6: So you have the family and the household. Mom and

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Speaker 6: dad are an authority over the kids. Their responsibility is

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Speaker 6: to raise the kids, shepherd the kids, educate the kids,

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Speaker 6: the well being of the family. Then you have the church.

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Speaker 6: Their responsibility is to preach the pure Gospel, to administer

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Speaker 6: the sacraments, and to be a culture and government's conscience

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Speaker 6: in the bold declaration of the truth. And then you

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Speaker 6: have the government. And it's a distinct lane that God's

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Speaker 6: given authority to and responsibility for. But it's a small lane.

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Speaker 6: And I think Charlie understood that. But if that lane grows,

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Speaker 6: it starts impeding on the other lanes to the detriment

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Speaker 6: of all the jurisdictions. But the point is God has

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Speaker 6: given them a job, and it's to bear the sword

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Speaker 6: against evildoers. It's to reward the righteous, and it's to

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Speaker 6: defend the people by allowing there to be an orderly

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Speaker 6: nation by protecting borders. That's Romans thirteen. And so I

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Speaker 6: don't need those in government to necessarily even preach the Gospel.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I mean the Memorial was like amazing. What

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Speaker 6: I need them to do is to do the job.

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Speaker 6: So one of my favorite speeches was Stephen Miller when

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Speaker 6: he stood up and he's like, you are nothing, you

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Speaker 6: have nothing, We're coming after you. It's like, I want

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Speaker 6: the preachers to preach the Gospel, and I want the

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Speaker 6: government to bear the sword against unrighteousness. And then you're

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Speaker 6: into morality. Who gets to define what's righteous what's unrighteous?

802
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Speaker 6: Who gets declared the standard of morality? So we need

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Speaker 6: our government to be built on the morality of something.

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Speaker 6: And so the whole idea that's being exposed, I think

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Speaker 6: is the myth of the neutrality of secularism. Every government

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Speaker 6: has to have a worldview that they draw from to

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Speaker 6: know how to do their job, and so the beauty like,

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Speaker 6: I don't need our government officials to priest the Gospel,

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Speaker 6: but we need them to stand on the foundation of

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Speaker 6: the moral law of God so they can do their

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Speaker 6: job and really stay out of the church's lane, which

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Speaker 6: is what we could get into later if they wanted

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Speaker 6: to what we're seeing happen in the White House. I

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Speaker 6: think they understand the need for the government to get

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Speaker 6: small or so the church can do their job.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, one of the things I do want to talk

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Speaker 16: about is the tendency of the mainstream news media to

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Speaker 16: describe what's happening as Christian nationalists.

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Speaker 1: So I want, I do want to get to that.

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Speaker 16: And I think that's instantly where I go there. But

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Speaker 16: I you know, I the other thought that I have,

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Speaker 16: just based on what you're saying, is that Charlie was

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Speaker 16: expert at sort of not bifurcating his faith and not

824
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Speaker 16: compartmentalizing his His faith was just everywhere, all the time.

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Speaker 16: It doesn't matter every what he was talking about. And

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Speaker 16: I noticed the same instinct that I have. It's like, well, okay,

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Speaker 16: I'm talking about Lipscomb Academy, you know, on Twitter and

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Speaker 16: X saying listen, I'm here a lot of really bad things,

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Speaker 16: like people running that school are not on the team.

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Speaker 16: As a matter of fact, they're hostile to a lot

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Speaker 16: of what God is doing in this moment, and they're

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Speaker 16: hostile to the kids that love Charlie. Well, that doesn't

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Speaker 16: feel very Nashville conservative enclave. It feels like people have

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Speaker 16: infiltrated that school that need to be fired all over.

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Speaker 1: But that comes from my Christian conviction.

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Speaker 16: That comes from a sense of righteousness, like I'm not

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Speaker 16: I'm not putting one in one compartment and putting another

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Speaker 16: in another compartment. I'm saying, listen, Charlie. Charlie was confronting

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Speaker 16: evil wherever he saw it, and he's proclaiming the truth. Well,

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Speaker 16: you punish kids for, you know, trying to honor Charlie

841
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Speaker 16: by wearing a suit and a tie. That's an amazing gesture.

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Speaker 16: You should have honored that, and they didn't. And you

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Speaker 16: talk about tests and it's like you passed the test

844
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Speaker 16: or you failed the test. Well, they failed it, and

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Speaker 16: I don't see any other way. And now listen, the

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Speaker 16: school's gonna do what they're gonna do. But I think

847
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Speaker 16: there's a power in us as Christians not saying, well,

848
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Speaker 16: I put my Christianity here on Sunday, and then when

849
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Speaker 16: I go to Washington, DC as your congressman or as

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Speaker 16: your vice president or whatever, I'm gonna put it over here,

851
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Speaker 16: and I'm gonna put my faith in a little box.

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Speaker 16: There is a power being unleashed, and I gotta believe

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Speaker 16: that that's part of the new wine skin because the

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Speaker 16: devil knew that this was going to happen or something, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, give us help an architecture.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and by the way, and exactly, but God like

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Speaker 16: there's and I think he's laying the trap.

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Speaker 1: So Christian national Christian national and Christian at will, guess

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Speaker 1: what was going to happen.

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Speaker 16: Charlie Kirk was gonna die a martyr's death, and then

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Speaker 16: the world's most powerful leaders were gonna get up on

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Speaker 16: a stage with one hundred million people streaming it, and

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Speaker 16: they were gonna start speaking the truth about Jesus Christ.

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Speaker 1: And guess what Christian nationalism?

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Speaker 10: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 6: Christian nationalists?

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Speaker 1: Or is that just living your faith in public?

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Speaker 17: Well, so Jesus is Lord overall or he's not Lord

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Speaker 17: out art. If we believe that he right now is

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Speaker 17: high and exalted, He's over government, he's over family, he's

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Speaker 17: over nation, cultures, businesses, churches, and so to say Jesus

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Speaker 17: Christ has jurisdiction here but not there is to be

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Speaker 17: disloyal to his sovereignty and to his lordship.

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Speaker 4: It just is Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean, even from a sociological perspective, you're either going

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Speaker 6: to have nationalism or globalism, or globalism or anarchism, right,

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Speaker 6: and so you're gonna have tyranny, anarchy, or an orderly society.

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Speaker 6: So let's just start there. Nations are a good thing.

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Speaker 6: And then that nation is going to be built on

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Speaker 6: a worldview. And we think the Christian worldview is a

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Speaker 6: superior worldview that does the most good for the most people,

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Speaker 6: even those who don't adhere to it.

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Speaker 17: But if our rights come from our career, the question

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Speaker 17: is what's his name?

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Speaker 4: That's the question.

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Speaker 1: Well, we'll pick it up for the stream. In just

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Speaker 1: one second.

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Speaker 16: Radio Hour one comes to a close, Radio Hour two

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Speaker 16: to begin in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back.

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Speaker 18: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice newsbreak. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 18: Happening right now at the White House, President Trump is

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Speaker 18: meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahoo. The two are

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Speaker 18: holding a bilateral meeting and are scheduled to hold a

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Speaker 18: press conference together within this coming hour. Today's meeting comes

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Speaker 18: on the heels of net Yahoo addressing the United Nations

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Speaker 18: General Assembly on Friday, that is the same day President

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Speaker 18: Trump alluded to nearing a peace deal or even a

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Speaker 18: cease fire deal in Gaza, and just this morning White

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Speaker 18: House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt saying that all sides are

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Speaker 18: quote very close to agreeing to a comprehensive plan to

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Speaker 18: end the war in Gaza. She says the President's Special

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Speaker 18: envoy to the Middle East sent each side a detailed

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Speaker 18: twenty one point plan for ending the war. Levitt goes

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Speaker 18: on to say the Commander in Chief expects both sides

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Speaker 18: to agree. Quote the President knows and believes that this

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Speaker 18: is a good as good a deal as these sides

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Speaker 18: are going to see, and that's why it's twenty one points.

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Speaker 18: President Trump, in the meantime, set to meet with top

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Speaker 18: congressional leaders later today, as the deadline to avoid a

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Speaker 18: government shutdown is just hours away. Today's meeting comes after

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Speaker 18: the Commander in Chief canceled a planned meeting with Democrat

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Speaker 18: leaders from the House and Senate last week, saying that

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Speaker 18: he didn't believe talks would be constructive. Congressional Republicans are

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Speaker 18: calling on their Democrat colleagues to agree to a continuing

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Speaker 18: resolution that would keep the government funded through November twenty first.

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Speaker 18: While the measure passed in the House, Senate, Democrats rejected

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Speaker 18: the resolution and are demanding that recent cuts to health

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Speaker 18: care programs be rescinded as part of any effort to

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Speaker 18: keep the government open. Many believe Democrats will force a

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Speaker 18: shut down tomorrow if they don't get their way. President

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Speaker 18: Trump calling on the Department of Justice and the FBI

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Speaker 18: to take another look at the events of January sixth.

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Speaker 18: It's one of his latest true social posts. Here's what

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Speaker 18: he writes, as it now turns out FBI agents were

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Speaker 18: at and in the January sixth protests, probably acting as

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Speaker 18: agitators and insurrectionists, but certainly not as law enforcement officials.

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Speaker 18: I want to know who each and every one of

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Speaker 18: these so called agents are and what they were up

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Speaker 18: to on that now historic day. Many great American patriots

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Speaker 18: were made to pay a very big price only for

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Speaker 18: the love of their country. I owe this investigation of

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Speaker 18: dirty cops and cricket politicians to them. Christopher Ray, the

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Speaker 18: then director of the FBI, has some major explaining to do.

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Speaker 18: That's two in a row, Comy and Ray, who got

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Speaker 18: caught lying with our great country at stake. Meantime, Georgia

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Speaker 18: Congressman Barry Laudermilk is already leading in congressional effort to

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Speaker 18: reinvestigate January sixth. House Speaker Mike Johnson describes it as

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Speaker 18: a committee to investigate the previous j six subcommittee.

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Speaker 20: Why because there was so much bias in the system

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Speaker 20: and that committee was rigged, I think, and I think

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Speaker 20: they My theory is I've always believed that they got

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Speaker 20: rid of evidence and they hit some of this, so

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Speaker 20: all of it's going to come out that American people

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Speaker 20: deserve full transparency. Full transparency is working on and that's

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Speaker 20: what the administration is.

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Speaker 18: I'm always meantime, amid the government shutdown, tug of war,

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Speaker 18: President Trump calling Portland, Oregon.

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Speaker 4: A war zone.

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Speaker 18: That's why he is federalizing a couple hundred Oregon National

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Speaker 18: Guardsmen to patrol the city. On True Social forty seven,

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Speaker 18: writing at the request of Secretary of Homeland Security Christy Nome,

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Speaker 18: I'm directing Secretary of War Pete Hegseth to provide all

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Speaker 18: necessary troops to protect war ravaged Portland and any of

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Speaker 18: our ice facilities under siege from attack by Antifa and

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Speaker 18: other domestic terrorists. I am also authorizing full force if necessary.

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Speaker 18: Thank you for your attention to this matter, he writes.

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Speaker 18: In response, Oregon is suing to block the move, saying

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Speaker 18: that you can't use National Guard soldiers to enforce domestic

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Speaker 18: law enforcement. The state's governor also argues that there is

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Speaker 18: no real crisis Portland. The deployment now puts Oregon at

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Speaker 18: the center of the constitutional legal debate about how much

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Speaker 18: authority a president. In this particular case, President Trump has

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Speaker 18: when it comes to overriding a governor and deploying guardsmen. Well,

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Speaker 18: New York City may be one step closer to electing

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Speaker 18: Communist Orin Mamdani as its next mayor now that incumbent

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Speaker 18: Mayor Eric Adams is out of the race. The embattled

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Speaker 18: Adams was running as an independent after it became clear

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Speaker 18: that he couldn't win a second term as Democrat. Mam

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Speaker 18: Donnie and former New York Governor Andrew Cromo.

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Speaker 4: Remain in the race.

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Speaker 18: Mam Donni by the way, considered the front runner, being

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Speaker 18: after being beating Cuomo.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me in the Big.

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Speaker 18: Apples Democratic primary when President Trump says Sunday's attack on

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Speaker 18: a Mormon church appears to be yet another targeted attack

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Speaker 18: on Christians in this country. At least four people are dead,

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Speaker 18: eight others hurt. That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 18: I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 16: All right, Welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show. I

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Speaker 16: am Andrew Colvett, executive producer of this fine show, and

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Speaker 16: I'm honored to be joined by Pastor Mark driscoll and

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Speaker 16: Pastor Josh McPherson.

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Speaker 1: McPherson, I.

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Speaker 16: Doubt myself, so it's not see what what was them?

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Speaker 1: No fear in McPherson.

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Speaker 16: That's a good one, because I'm tempted every time I

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Speaker 16: said to say McPherson and all our guys at the

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Speaker 16: t P s a UH Faith Team are huge admirers

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Speaker 16: and followers of yours, and here I am like first,

992
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Speaker 16: but it's just so disrespectful. But I honor you and

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Speaker 16: I'm grateful for you to be here, and you know

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Speaker 16: you the the t B s A Faith Team is

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Speaker 16: going to give me a Stern talking to I can

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Speaker 16: assure you after this.

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Speaker 4: All in love.

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Speaker 16: So here, I want to now transition our conversation so

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Speaker 16: that so I can.

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Speaker 1: We are going to We're going to We're going to

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Speaker 1: pivot a little bit.

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Speaker 16: I'm going to go to this conversation about Christian nationalism

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Speaker 16: and I'm going to play some clips of what they're

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Speaker 16: now saying about this, and then we're going to talk

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Speaker 16: about the demonic and then I want you.

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Speaker 1: Guys just prepare your spirits for this.

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Speaker 16: I think it's important that pastors are encouraged, warned, and

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Speaker 16: you know, given some guidance on what this season will entail.

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Speaker 16: You talk about new wine, skins and new wine, so

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Speaker 16: I want to talk about that. That's kind of I

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Speaker 16: think where we're going. We'll see if if that materializes.

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Speaker 16: But I'm going to play these two clips here. Let's

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Speaker 16: go ahead and play cut seven.

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Speaker 21: You're seeing here is a movement called Christian nationalism that

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Speaker 21: merges Christianity as it's been practiced in America for you know, centuries,

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Speaker 21: with a very specific interpretation of what the Founding fathers wanted,

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Speaker 21: what Aristotle wanted. This strain of interpretation of the Bible

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Speaker 21: merge Christianity and protecting the Western civilization values into one

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Speaker 21: and the same thing.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 16: So that's Tina Nuinn from uh Verge. I think she's

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Speaker 16: at the Verge. She was with Puck, she's been with

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Speaker 16: political I've actually known her for a long time. She's

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Speaker 16: always been very nice to me and a stand up operator.

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Speaker 1: I actually told her I.

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Speaker 16: Was probably gonna like slamm her with that clip today,

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Speaker 16: but I said I would do it nice because she's

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Speaker 16: actually nice, and she listened. She is misinterpreting the signs

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Speaker 16: of the times, but we can get into that in

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Speaker 16: just a second. I told her that let's go ahead

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Speaker 16: and play cut eight. This is Don Lemon talking about

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Speaker 16: something similar.

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Speaker 22: What we saw in that arena was not simply faith

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Speaker 22: finding public expression. It was religious nationalism on full display.

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Speaker 1: That is the truth. That is my truth. This is

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Speaker 1: my freedom of expression.

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Speaker 22: This is my first Amendment right to be able to

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Speaker 22: tell you the truth.

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Speaker 1: Mark is that the truth.

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Speaker 17: So our nation is founded on rights. We are told

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Speaker 17: that those rights come not from government, they come from God,

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Speaker 17: and that God has authority over government, and that all

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Speaker 17: governmental authority is derivative from God. The question, then, is

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Speaker 17: what is the name of this God, that's the question.

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Speaker 17: The Muslims would say his name is Allah, the Christians

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Speaker 17: would say his name is Jesus Christ. And so at

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Speaker 17: the end of the day, as soon as you answer

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Speaker 17: the question of what the name of that God is,

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Speaker 17: you're picking a team. And what I find interesting is

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Speaker 17: this is slanderous. It is it is fear based, it

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Speaker 17: is fear mongering. And as Pastor Josh said previously, you

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Speaker 17: get anarchy, you know, which if you want to know

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Speaker 17: what that looks like, you know, go to Portland tonight.

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Speaker 17: You get globalism where we send all of our young

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Speaker 17: men and dollars overseas until we cease to exist as

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Speaker 17: a country and eradicate our borders and allow criminals and

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Speaker 17: cartels to be in charge. Or you have nationalism, and

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Speaker 17: nationalism is what God says is best for human life

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Speaker 17: and flourishing. The first attempt at globalism is back in

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Speaker 17: Genesis in a place called Babel, that is ancient Babylon,

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Speaker 17: that is today Iraq. They all have the same language,

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Speaker 17: they all get together, and they're trying to chase this

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Speaker 17: Marxist utopian counterfeit vision of a perfect life on earth

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Speaker 17: without God, and it's globalism. God looks down and says,

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Speaker 17: they're united, and unless we spread them into nations, they're

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Speaker 17: going to do tremendous evil. So united people without God

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Speaker 17: are dangerous people. And so then God scatters them into

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Speaker 17: nations and he confuses them into languages. And so nationalism

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Speaker 17: is what God did to save us from destroying ourselves

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Speaker 17: at the end of the age. According to the storyline

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Speaker 17: of the Bible, depending upon your reading, at the end

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Speaker 17: of the age, all the nations will seek to come

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Speaker 17: together into a globalistic vision. But then the question is

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Speaker 17: who gets to be the leader, And it's not Christ,

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Speaker 17: it's the anti Christ. And so if all power is

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Speaker 17: consolidated globally, one demonically satanically possessed person wielding all of

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Speaker 17: that power becomes the end of civilization. And so globalism

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Speaker 17: is a naive myth from the earliest days of Genesis,

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Speaker 17: and nationalism was God's answer to globalism, it says in

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Speaker 17: Acts seventeen. God determines the times and places in which

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Speaker 17: we live. God had me, though Irish by descent, born

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Speaker 17: in America in nineteen seventy, and that was God's decision

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Speaker 17: for me. I love my God, and I love where

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Speaker 17: he put me.

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Speaker 16: And you know we were talking the break faster Josh,

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Speaker 16: that you know you want you have this, you you

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Speaker 16: feel like you understand why Charlie was so dangerous to

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Speaker 16: some of these these ideas, whether whether we call it

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Speaker 16: demonic ideas just far left ideas. And I don't think

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Speaker 16: all left ideas, just for the record, are demonic. I'm

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Speaker 16: just saying there are some that are demonic. There's some

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Speaker 16: that are left and far left. Why was Charlie so

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Speaker 16: dangerous to kind of this this old lie.

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Speaker 6: Well, I think what made him effective and therefore dangerous

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Speaker 6: was that Charlie was not primarily a political animal. And

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Speaker 6: he said that in his own words. And Charlie's political

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Speaker 6: theory was rooted in biblical theology, and he had an

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Speaker 6: ability like maybe nobody I've ever seen, to connect the

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Speaker 6: dots with what's happening in the in the political realm,

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Speaker 6: with what God has said from his moral law. And

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Speaker 6: so there's this, there's this obscure quote from John Frame,

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Speaker 6: who gave us chrirespectableism. I think that's kind of what

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Speaker 6: you got it early on, and John Frame talked about

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Speaker 6: the necessity of understanding the Gospel as the center. Now

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Speaker 6: there's been a gospel centered movement in American christian in

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Speaker 6: the last twenty years. But what the gospel center movement did,

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Speaker 6: I believe is turn the Gospel from the center to

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Speaker 6: a boundary. So John Frame explains like this, and this

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Speaker 6: is what I think made to Charlie so profound and

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Speaker 6: trigger me on time for running out. When you view

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Speaker 6: the Gospel as a boundary, it means all you can

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Speaker 6: do is talk about the components of the specific gospel

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Speaker 6: justification by faithfulone.

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Speaker 17: What is the gospel for those who don't not let

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Speaker 17: her rip. It's Jesus Christ. Jesus is God, become a

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Speaker 17: man to live without sin, the only human being to

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Speaker 17: ever live without sin, declare himself to be God, the

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Speaker 17: only founder of any major world religion to declare himself

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Speaker 17: to be God, to die on the cross in our

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Speaker 17: place as our substitute for our sins, to physically bodily

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Speaker 17: raise from the dead, opening heaven and triumphing over Satan, sin, death, Hell,

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Speaker 17: and the wrath of God. The Gospel is the good

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Speaker 17: News about who Jesus is and what Jesus does. And

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Speaker 17: no one is who Jesus is and no one does

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Speaker 17: what Jesus does.

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Speaker 4: That's the gospel.

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Speaker 6: Amen. So what the Gospel Center movement did I believe

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Speaker 6: is turned the Gospel into a boundary. That's all you

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Speaker 6: can talk about.

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Speaker 16: I totally agree. And this is this is one of

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Speaker 16: the tposa faith that we did. We said, churches, if

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Speaker 16: you don't speak into this void about you know, sex

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Speaker 16: and identity and about you know whatever, abortion, you are

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Speaker 16: leaving this vacuum that will be filled by people that

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Speaker 16: do not share your values. And so you don't have

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Speaker 16: to agree on post trib pre trib.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to. We're not getting into that.

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Speaker 16: We're saying, speak up, stand up, and speak into the

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Speaker 16: public arena, because we are losing our country. The first

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Speaker 16: and the most important thing, and Charlie always says this

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Speaker 16: was preach the gospel. The second most important thing is

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Speaker 16: to make sure you can do the first, and so

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Speaker 16: stand up, church, fill the void.

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Speaker 1: Do not be cowards. And that was what made him.

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Speaker 6: If the pulpits of America don't disciple the culture, the

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Speaker 6: culture will disciple the culture to himself. Because secularism has

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Speaker 6: a god, and it's the God of self. And so

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Speaker 6: when John Frame talks about the gospel being the center,

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Speaker 6: he says it in such a way so as to

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Speaker 6: say it doesn't limit what we talk about, actually gives

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Speaker 6: us permission and obligation to connect everything in life under

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Speaker 6: the sun to the reality of the Gospel. And that's

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Speaker 6: what Charlie did. I believe in such a powerful way

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Speaker 6: sex relationships, politics, governments, and nations, connecting them to the

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Speaker 6: reality of God most explicitly found in Jesus Christ in

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Speaker 6: the Gospel.

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Speaker 16: You know, I have to tell us tell the audience

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Speaker 16: about another partner. And it's funny because I for those

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Speaker 16: who missed it, we're getting getting back to a.

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Speaker 1: Little bit of regular order.

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Speaker 16: And our partners, our network partners, our advertising partners have

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Speaker 16: all been so generous and kind and gracious as we've

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Speaker 16: been working through the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: And there is no roadmap for.

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Speaker 16: This, and there's no instruction manual, so we're just doing

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Speaker 16: our best. But I tell you what, when we have

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Speaker 16: to talk about partners like good Ranchers and yeah, they

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Speaker 16: sell meat, it's really good and it's you know, it's

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Speaker 16: made in America, I love them. I love their product,

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Speaker 16: but I love the people behind it even more. And

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Speaker 16: they're Christians. Ben and Corley are amazing people. Who have

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Speaker 16: come on this show and given a testimony about Jesus Christ. Now,

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Speaker 16: Jesus healed Coraly from cancer. And I cried when I

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Speaker 16: heard it at the time. And so yeah, they sell

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Speaker 16: boxes of meat and you should buy it.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 16: And their chicken nuggets are amazing, Charlie as kids loved

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Speaker 16: the chicken nuggets.

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Speaker 1: My kids love the chicken nuggets.

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Speaker 16: And so you should go to good ranchers dot com

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Speaker 16: and sert promo code Kirk for forty dollars off and

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Speaker 16: support them.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. We'll be right back around eighteen or nineteen.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, well, okay, two ingredients check check. There's a moment

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Speaker 16: that leads to a movement, right there is these other

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Speaker 16: ingredients that were called people are called repentance. And you've

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Speaker 16: got all these pupils and forgiveness, repentance and forgiveness. And

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Speaker 16: you know that's been obviously true because his Charlie's legacy

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Speaker 16: in his life was so exemplary that all these you know,

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Speaker 16: all these people are like, how do I be a

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Speaker 16: better husband? How do I be a better father? And

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Speaker 16: you know, and so you've got all these things, but

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Speaker 16: then what about the church if we're is it bypassing

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Speaker 16: the church? Is it with new wine skins? What is

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Speaker 16: your challenge and your instruction to the church. The pastors

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Speaker 16: out there that are seeing their their pews filled and

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Speaker 16: maybe some that aren't, you know, So there's like some

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Speaker 16: you know, there's a Fox News poll that says their

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Speaker 16: churches are experiencing a fifteen percent increase in congregations. Well,

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Speaker 16: some are experiencing eighty percent or hundred percent. Minds out

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Speaker 16: the door. There is obviously, you know, when we think

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Speaker 16: about revelations, you know you're gonna snuff out the lamp stands. Well,

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Speaker 16: are some churches going to fold their you know, to

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Speaker 16: close their doors during this time while others explode and grow?

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Speaker 16: So that's the question for and we'll ask it in radio.

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Speaker 16: We will be right back.

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Speaker 14: All right, Welcome back to Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Andrew Colvett. You were looking at the

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Speaker 1: empty chair.

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Speaker 16: Of our dear brother and friend, and we are trying

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Speaker 16: to honor him as best as we know how. And

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Speaker 16: one of the ways I think we do that is

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Speaker 16: we encourage the church, we admonish the church. How does

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Speaker 16: the church capture this moment? What is your what is

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Speaker 16: your word for pastors and check.

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Speaker 17: So let me just say this though, for you. Looking

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Speaker 17: at the empty chair I walked in, I got pretty

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Speaker 17: choked down. How many times have you sat, you know,

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Speaker 17: here with Charlie and now you're possibly your best friend.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to speak for you. He's gone.

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Speaker 17: Just I mean, you've got a job to do, your

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Speaker 17: leading off, but just personally as a human being, as

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Speaker 17: a pastor, I just feel like asking like, yeah, where

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Speaker 17: are you out in.

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Speaker 10: All of this?

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Speaker 16: You know a lot of these army guys, in special

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Speaker 16: forces guys reached out and they they said, you know

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Speaker 16: comes in waves. Don't don't don't be upset at yourself

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Speaker 16: if you're not feeling what you feel like you should

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Speaker 16: be feeling one moment, and don't be upset if then

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Speaker 16: the next moment you feel like you can't take a

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Speaker 16: step forward. And that, man, that is true, Like it

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Speaker 16: is so true.

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Speaker 1: I've been.

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Speaker 16: You know, there's moments like when we were getting ready

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Speaker 16: for the memorial, it was just we're so busy. I

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Speaker 16: didn't have a chance to think or grieve. It was

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Speaker 16: just like, let's go. You know, we got we have

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Speaker 16: a job to do, and then you get done with that.

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Speaker 16: I remember I was on Jesse Waters on the Monday,

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Speaker 16: and it was like, Jesse asked me that the same question.

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Speaker 16: I was like, you know, to be honest, Jesse, it's

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Speaker 16: kind of hitting me all over again. It was like

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Speaker 16: the come down after the after that big event, and

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Speaker 16: then this weekend, you know, it just hit me again.

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Speaker 16: So I think that's just gonna be the way it is,

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Speaker 16: and I'm not afraid of it. I embrace it, you know.

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Speaker 16: I tweeted that, I was like, I can't believe he's

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Speaker 16: gone because it still doesn't feel real.

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Speaker 4: It still feels very Yeah, it.

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Speaker 1: Does, and I miss him a lot.

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Speaker 16: And I you know, these like old habits that you

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Speaker 16: put you know, we worked together for eight years. I

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Speaker 16: you know, you're thinking about texting him or you know,

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Speaker 16: or something funny or some something you know, he would

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Speaker 16: say about something, and and I guess, you know, I

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Speaker 16: just know that he's in glory, and you know, as

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Speaker 16: Erica said, he's on a work trip with Jesus, and

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Speaker 16: you know, and uh, I'm just truly humbled that I

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Speaker 16: got to see it so up close. And I know

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Speaker 16: that the whole team here in the studio feels the

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Speaker 16: same way. And at turning point and yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 17: Well you're grieving the loss of your friend and under

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Speaker 17: tremendous work doing things that there's no precedent or playbook

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Speaker 17: for you, just doing the best every day as you're able,

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Speaker 17: and your team's doing an incredible, edible job.

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Speaker 13: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 16: I mean, honestly, that's one of the blessings of being

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Speaker 16: with this large team, you know, because you know you're

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Speaker 16: feeling weak and then you see you know, somebody else,

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Speaker 16: you know, really doing a great job and being courageous,

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Speaker 16: and you're like, I can do it too, And I

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Speaker 16: think we all feed off each other, and you know,

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Speaker 16: we it's it's a team, it's a staff, it's a

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Speaker 16: it's a job, but it's it's really a family. And

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Speaker 16: when there's something like this happens you, it galvanizes you

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Speaker 16: and really bonds you together.

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Speaker 6: And I think there could be a lot of really

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Speaker 6: weird ways to handle this moment, and just my experiencing

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Speaker 6: us how looking in a lot of discretion, a lot

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Speaker 6: of wisdom, a lot of grace, and how you guys

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Speaker 6: are handling it, I just think it's evidence of the

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Speaker 6: spirit of God leading you guys and giving you guys

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Speaker 6: grace for this moment.

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Speaker 16: I mean, we got the whole world praying. I mean,

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Speaker 16: I'm not I'm very aware of that. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 16: and I said it before, but repeating, I think a

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Speaker 16: lot of us feel it. We feel the prayers of strangers. Yes,

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Speaker 16: and that's a wild thing.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 16: I've heard presidents talk about that before, where you know,

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Speaker 16: you feel sustained by the prayers and to know that

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Speaker 16: so many people have been praying for us. I mean,

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Speaker 16: I don't talk to a single person that doesn't tell

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Speaker 16: me we've been praying for you. Yeah, you know, so

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Speaker 16: thank you for asking.

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Speaker 17: We love you and you forget that. Like, Charlie is

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Speaker 17: a husband, he's a father, he's got a wife, he's

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Speaker 17: got kids, he's got friends, and to the team here,

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Speaker 17: it was a very warm personal relationship. And sometimes in

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Speaker 17: a media world we think that people are just ideologies

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Speaker 17: and not you know, human beings with families and relationships.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, there was definitely this very distinct effort the entire

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Speaker 16: career to make him Wooden in two dimensional and to

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Speaker 16: us he was always in you know, technicolor three D

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Speaker 16: and one of the warmest, most generous, gracious, loyal, just.

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Speaker 1: Good hearted people. Had it harded people. Yeah, funny, it's hilarious.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it doesn't get.

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Speaker 1: Nearly enough credit for help.

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Speaker 4: You know, I wanted.

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Speaker 6: Charlie's secret sauce was he embodied truth, goodness, beauty. He

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Speaker 6: was a truth machine that was anchored in the goodness

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Speaker 6: of the of the moral law of God and the

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Speaker 6: wisdom of the Word of God. And he was demonstrating

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Speaker 6: real time with his beautiful wife and his beautiful kids,

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Speaker 6: the beauty of the Christian worldview working itself out in

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Speaker 6: the heart of a man. And when when you combine

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Speaker 6: that just razor sharp logic on truth, a commitment to

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Speaker 6: fundamental goodness for all mankind, and then living out the

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Speaker 6: beauty of a Camelot story, a beautiful wife, a family

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Speaker 6: he loved, it's a powerful one two three punch that

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Speaker 6: you can't ignore. It's self authenticating that world view is working.

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Speaker 6: I think that was part of what's telling about true.

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Speaker 16: It's amazing is how much Erica embodies all of those

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Speaker 16: qualities as well.

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Speaker 6: Remarkably I always do.

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Speaker 16: It gets to see her have this platform to be

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Speaker 16: I mean, I you know, we've talked about the Charlie effect,

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Speaker 16: and now one of the things I'm seeing more and

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Speaker 16: more social media is the Erica effect.

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Speaker 17: She could turn a whole generation of young women as

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Speaker 17: he turned a whole generation of young men.

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Speaker 4: If so, that would be revival.

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Speaker 6: That's right.

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Speaker 16: Wow, Okay, well, let's talk about it in just one second.

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Speaker 16: One quick break with radio.

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Speaker 11: We're going to keep going on the stream.

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Speaker 18: Terrence Bates here with your Real America's Voice news break.

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Speaker 18: Thanks so much for being here with us. Happening right

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Speaker 18: now at the White House, President Trump meeting with Israeli

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Speaker 18: Prime Minister Benjamin Nette and Yahoo. The tour a set

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Speaker 18: to hold a bilateral meeting, and then they're going to

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Speaker 18: have a joint news conference together, and that's expected to

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Speaker 18: happen excuse me at any moment. You can see the

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Speaker 18: podium set up. The reporters are already in place, simply

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Speaker 18: waiting for the arrival of President Trump and his Israeli counterpart.

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Speaker 18: Today's meeting comes on the heels of nat Yahoo addressing

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Speaker 18: the United Nations General Assembly on Friday, and that very

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Speaker 18: same day, Trump alluded to nearing a peace or ceasefire

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Speaker 18: deal in Gaza. Just this morning, White House Press Secretary

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Speaker 18: Caroline Levitt saying that all sides are quote very close

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Speaker 18: to agreeing to a comprehensive plan to end the Warren Gaza.

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Speaker 18: She also says the President's Special envoy to the Middle

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Speaker 18: East sent each side a detailed twenty one point plan

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Speaker 18: for ending that war. Levit goes on to say the

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Speaker 18: Commander in Chief expects both sides to agree. Quote, the

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Speaker 18: President knows and believes that this is as good a

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Speaker 18: plan as these sides are going to see, and that's

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Speaker 18: why it's a twenty one point plan. Again, we're expecting

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Speaker 18: that news conference to happen at any moment. The moment

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Speaker 18: it does will take you there live. We also could

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Speaker 18: get an answer to what Caroline Levitt said about both

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Speaker 18: sides agreeing to a peace deal, or at least a

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Speaker 18: deal to end the Warren Gaza is rarely. Prime Minister

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Speaker 18: Benjamin at Yahoo at the White House today and he

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Speaker 18: could very well make that announcement here in short order. Meantime,

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Speaker 18: President Trumps set to meet with top congressional leaders later

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Speaker 18: on today as well. This is the deadline to avoid

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Speaker 18: a government shut down is just hours away. Today's meeting

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Speaker 18: comes after the Commander in Chief canceled a planned meeting

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Speaker 18: with Democrat leaders from the House and Senate last week,

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Speaker 18: saying that he just didn't believe talks would be constructive.

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Speaker 18: Congressional Republicans are calling on their Democrat colleagues to agree

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Speaker 18: to a continuing resolution that would keep the government funded

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Speaker 18: through November twenty first. While the measure passed in the House,

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Speaker 18: Senate Democrats rejected the resolution and are demanding that recent

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Speaker 18: cuts to healthcare programs be rescinded as part of any

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Speaker 18: effort to keep the government funded. Many believe that Democrats

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Speaker 18: will force a shut down tomorrow if they don't get

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Speaker 18: their way. That's a great check off your headlines again.

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Speaker 18: We'll take you back to the White House the moment

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Speaker 18: President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Ettyahuo come out.

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Speaker 4: To address the media.

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Speaker 18: For now, Let's get you back to your regularly structured program.

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Speaker 16: and Jenny. All Right, so we are talking about, you know,

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Speaker 16: the spirit of the age.

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Speaker 1: You made this comment that I.

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Speaker 16: Just felt was really powerful, Pastor Josh, you said, you

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Speaker 16: know when when Erica said this statement that you're not

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Speaker 16: rivals and she's defining the roles of men and women,

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Speaker 16: that she put a spirit through the spirit of.

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Speaker 1: The Jezebel spirit of our age. Let's play this.

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Speaker 16: Cut and then I'll let you put a finish that

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Speaker 16: up clip twenty seven.

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Speaker 12: But please be a leader worth following your wife. Your

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Speaker 12: wife is not your servant. Your wife is not your employee.

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Speaker 12: Your wife is not your slave. She is your helper.

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Speaker 12: You are not rivals. You are one flesh working together

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Speaker 12: for the glory of God.

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Speaker 6: It's incredible, it's incredible, it's so beautiful. It's putting in

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Speaker 6: a spirit your heart of chauvinism that would look down

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Speaker 6: on a woman.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, got both sides. That's a good point. Yeah, she

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Speaker 16: was an equal opportunity.

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Speaker 6: Everyone got to get shot, you know, everyone got to

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Speaker 6: get addressed. So chauvinism, there's no room for that in

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Speaker 6: Biblical Christianity, feminism where men are put down and women

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Speaker 6: are elevated, and so it was powerful.

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Speaker 16: Can we read Bible verses on this show, we could

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Speaker 16: preach the gospel well.

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Speaker 6: Because you reminded me of us when you said it.

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Speaker 6: It's in second Corinthine is ten. In light of talking

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Speaker 6: about spiritual warfare, Mark and I've been to show you

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Speaker 6: think of this, Paul says this. He says, the weapons

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Speaker 6: we fight are not the weapons of the world. On

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Speaker 6: the contrary, where they have divine power to demolish strongholds.

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Speaker 6: And watch this. We demolish arguments and every pretension that

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Speaker 6: sets itself up against the knowledge of God. That's what

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Speaker 6: she was doing and that's what made it so powerful.

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Speaker 6: And then watch this and we take captive every thought

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Speaker 6: to make it obedient to christ. Christians typically read that

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Speaker 6: verse in a body mind point of this say, and

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Speaker 6: we think of it as personal. Take captive of my thoughts,

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Speaker 6: you know, don't have lustiful thoughts. Whatever. Paul is referencing

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Speaker 6: taking captive thoughts in the context of public argumentation, he's

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Speaker 6: calling Christians to that's a wrong thought. Charlie was going

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Speaker 6: around campuses and he was publicly taking captive those demonic

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Speaker 6: thoughts and ideologies that really had the hearts and minds

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Speaker 6: of students captive. And he was saying, that's a wrong thought,

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Speaker 6: that's a wrong idea. And he was demolishing these strongholds

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Speaker 6: that set themselves up against the knowledge of God with

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Speaker 6: the truth of the Gospel. And that's what Erica was doing,

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Speaker 6: and that's what made it social.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean, Charlie, there's this great clip of him saying,

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Speaker 16: my job is to confront evil. We might actually have

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Speaker 16: that clip. I think we do have that clip. My

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Speaker 16: job is to confront evil and to proclaim the truth.

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Speaker 16: But let's just play this one, just because it's fun

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Speaker 16: to hear it in his own words.

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Speaker 1: Let's play cut twenty eight. This is Charlie with Tucker Carlston.

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Speaker 13: This is why your faith is the most important thing,

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Speaker 13: because for those of us that are Christians, you actually

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Speaker 13: see what going on, which is that we do not

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Speaker 13: wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities and darkness

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Speaker 13: and spirits. That there is a spiritual war here. There

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Speaker 13: is a God and we are not him. That there

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Speaker 13: is an entire dimension of angels and demons and spirits

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Speaker 13: that are constantly struggling struggling around us, and that there

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Speaker 13: is a supernatural dimension.

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Speaker 6: Amen crushed it.

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Speaker 1: It's no notes.

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Speaker 4: Well see part of it too.

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Speaker 17: I said this is I think that of all the

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Speaker 17: political pundits and commentators I've met, very few would qualify

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Speaker 17: to be a pastor according to the qualifications in the Bible.

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Speaker 17: Charlie did his character, his marriage, his personal integrity, and

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Speaker 17: so I think an entire generation that was not in

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Speaker 17: church but they were online. I think they looked at

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Speaker 17: Charlie as not just a big brother, but their pastor.

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Speaker 17: So they were looking to him as to, okay, well

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Speaker 17: you know, how do I get married, how do I

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Speaker 17: have a family, what makes life meaningful? How do I

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Speaker 17: know where the truth is? So Charlie was functioning as

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Speaker 17: a pastor for an entire generation. And so when he died,

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Speaker 17: even those who weren't Christians, they they felt this devastating

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Speaker 17: personal emotional loss and that's why. And then they went

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Speaker 17: to church because that's what Pastor Charlie told them to do.

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Speaker 17: And so I believe that he is well known for

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Speaker 17: his political work. I think that now we're saying his

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Speaker 17: spiritual work was at least is equally impactful.

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Speaker 16: He is bigger and so I mean, that's this is

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Speaker 16: where I want to end this conversation. In the time

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Speaker 16: we have left, We've got the rest of this segment.

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Speaker 16: In the next seme what's your word? So Erica said,

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Speaker 16: go to church. Elon Mudd Musk retweeted it, which is

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Speaker 16: why I would hope that. I hope that he was

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Speaker 16: tweeting it on his way to church.

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Speaker 6: I think we saw Elon Musk singing along, singing some

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Speaker 6: worship songs. Let's go there.

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Speaker 1: There's the there's the tweet.

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Speaker 16: She's not a super active tweeter poster, but when she does,

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Speaker 16: she makes gold records. Is this she uh.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, yeah, think thank you?

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Speaker 16: And that this is the Eric Elon post that and

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Speaker 16: he's posted you know. Anyways, my point is.

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Speaker 6: What's happening there, I think is I don't know if

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Speaker 6: you're where Elon is with Jesus, but there's a recognition

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01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 6: that cultural Christianity is good for everyone.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I think very well aware that he does not

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Speaker 16: want to live in an agnostic, atheist Muslim country.

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Speaker 1: He wants to live in a Christian one. He wants

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01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 1: to live in one where.

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Speaker 16: People have virtue and honor and honesty and integrity, and

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Speaker 16: they don't target him just because they don't like the

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Speaker 16: fact that.

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Speaker 1: He's so rich.

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Speaker 16: I mean, I think he's all that's very much playing

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Speaker 16: into this, But I gotta believe that you do not

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Speaker 16: sit through and he sat through so much of it.

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Speaker 4: He's got through hours of gospel preacher.

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Speaker 1: And you can't.

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Speaker 16: It's hard to sit through that and to feel the

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01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,320
Speaker 16: Holy Spirit and go it's not real.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and to ask too, what happens when I die? Yes?

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01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 4: And what will they say?

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Speaker 6: Yes? And what was so powerful about that memorial?

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Speaker 16: And probably be confronted with the fact that he's under

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01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 16: an incredible amount of threats.

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01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 4: Oh, his life is constantly dangerous.

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01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 6: Yes, Yes, I was just going to say. A friend

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01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 6: pointing out to me that was not an event that

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Speaker 6: had been planned for ten months. Yeah, that was a

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01:21:13,439 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 6: week the event we sat in that was so sweet

1551
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 6: and so powerful. They didn't exist ten days earlier. And

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01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,560
Speaker 6: what it demonstrated was when you bump Christians with tragedy,

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01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,480
Speaker 6: what pours out is hope.

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Speaker 1: That's just so powerful.

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01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,599
Speaker 16: Well, and so what is the message to the shepherds,

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01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:30,320
Speaker 16: the pastors out there, Pastor Mark, pastor Josh, how do

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01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 16: they pass this test and how do they step into

1558
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:38,679
Speaker 16: the anointing of this new wine that is being poured

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01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:39,960
Speaker 16: out in the country, Because I.

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Speaker 1: Think it's critical.

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Speaker 16: One of the things Erica said, she said, shepherd them,

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01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 16: shepherd them, So I'll.

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Speaker 4: Pick it up there.

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Speaker 17: There is a wild misunderstanding of what it means to shepherd.

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01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 17: So in the Bible, you know, animals are out in

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01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 17: the field, they're exposed to wolves and predators, and so

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01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 17: the shepherd has two jobs. One to be tender with

1568
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 17: the flock, to to be tough for the flock. If

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01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 17: we took out the word shepherd and we inserted the

1570
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:10,479
Speaker 17: word cowboy, you would have the biblical understanding of a pastor.

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01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 17: A pastor is supposed to be a cowboy, supposed to

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Speaker 17: be able to kill wolves and protect sheep. And the

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01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 17: problem we have today they're not fighting wolves and as

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01:22:21,680 --> 01:22:24,680
Speaker 17: a result, they're really not loving sheep. And so, you know,

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01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:28,360
Speaker 17: the whole cultural phenomenon of the West and Western nostalgia

1576
01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 17: and Yellowstone people watching that. Ultimately what they are thinking

1577
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,759
Speaker 17: is this is what leadership should be like. It should

1578
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 17: be more like a cowboy. And so I think part

1579
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 17: of the new wine that is going to form a

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01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 17: new wine skin will include pastors who are not just

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01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 17: guys who feel comfortable holding sheep and walking around singing songs,

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01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:52,519
Speaker 17: but they're cowboys that also know how to defend and

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01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 17: protect and when a wolf shows up, are not afraid to.

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Speaker 6: Put him downe. Charlie was a cowboy.

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01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 4: He was a cowboy.

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01:22:58,400 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 17: Charlie Kirk was a cowboy and he moved Arizona and

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01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,639
Speaker 17: he fit really well because it's still a cowboy town.

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01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 16: Well, and he, you know you're talking about the Old

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01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 16: Testament would use the word shepherd, right. The David was

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01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 16: a shepherd and he was killing lions.

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01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then when you come after the sheep, he.

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01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 6: Was carrying bags of enemies foreskins around on his belt.

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01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:26,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. He was a dude, And I think

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01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 1: that's what you're getting at, right.

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01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:32,959
Speaker 17: This is like this to talk more masculine fortitude in leadership.

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Speaker 16: And I remember when you, when I was sitting listening

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01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:37,559
Speaker 16: to your preaching, you talk about that there was, Yeah,

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01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,680
Speaker 16: there was this this thing that you would say, you know,

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Speaker 16: we have this idea of Jesus being this spandex wearing

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Speaker 16: fairy princess that just you know, is singing these beautiful

1601
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 16: hymns in the clouds.

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01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: It's like, no, he's look at revelation.

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01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 16: He's wielding a flaming sword, you know, and he's he's

1604
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 16: coming to destroy the enemy and to protect his people.

1605
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:58,280
Speaker 17: Yes, yes, that's the storyline of the Bible. And so

1606
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 17: for the church, fear is contagious and so is courage.

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01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 17: And that's what you saw with Charlie. If Charlie had

1608
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 17: manifested fear, nobody would have showed up for his funeral

1609
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 17: because he manifested courage. There's an entire generation saying, I

1610
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 17: choose faith, not fear, Church, I choose courage not cowardice.

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Speaker 1: Here, let's play this clip.

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Speaker 16: This is Charlie with George Jenco who's also in the

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01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 16: local area. Oh one second, we almost got it loaded, okay,

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01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 16: and when we do, it's going.

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Speaker 1: To be real good.

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01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 6: I prove it for good.

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01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 16: Our studio is like hold it, this is yeah, it's loaded.

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01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 16: This let's go ahead and play cut thirty.

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01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,680
Speaker 1: These moments where you're fighting for your country and you're

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01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 1: getting these threats, does it alarm and concern you for

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01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: your children? I mean yes and no.

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01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:42,640
Speaker 13: I mean my wife is the best person ever, and

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01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 13: she's a patriot, and she's a believer, and we don't

1624
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,479
Speaker 13: want to have to be accountable to God when this

1625
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,280
Speaker 13: life passes and he asks, why did you not trust

1626
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 13: in me and not fight evil? Because we as Christians

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01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:54,840
Speaker 13: are called the fight evil. It's one of the less

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01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:57,599
Speaker 13: lesser known scriptures Salm ninety seven to ten. For those

1629
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 13: of you that love God, you must hate evil.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm. Pastor Charlie there it is.

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01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:06,000
Speaker 16: Well, it's funny because Cowboy Pastor spoken so many churches,

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01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 16: like so many churches in the last few years, and

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01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 16: he was always very.

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01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 1: Clear like I'm not a pastor. I'm not a pastor.

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01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: You know. He he was like, you know, didn't want

1636
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: the lake.

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01:25:15,479 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 4: He was a pastor.

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01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,640
Speaker 16: He was an well yeah, and and you know that

1639
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 16: was all him. I remember when he was starting it.

1640
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:23,800
Speaker 16: I was like, Okay, Charlie, have you have you met

1641
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 16: any there? The church can be worse than politics, Like

1642
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,240
Speaker 16: it's brutal out there.

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01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,840
Speaker 6: He talked about he was told early on not to

1644
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,559
Speaker 6: combine the two, and then somehow either on his own

1645
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 6: as your mentor, and he's like, no, no, we have

1646
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:36,799
Speaker 6: to connect these two or won't be faithful.

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01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: No, exactly.

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Speaker 16: He didn't buy forget his faith. He did not compartmentalize it.

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Speaker 16: Speaking of another guy that does not, I want to

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Speaker 16: truth from the Bible and applies it to issues we're

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Speaker 16: facing today, just exactly what we're talking about, gender confusion, abortion, immigration,

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Speaker 16: We've got some six points coming up for pastors. Don't

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Speaker 1: So help them, let them help you. We'll be right

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Speaker 1: back with radio final segment.

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Speaker 16: Guys, this is flown by pastor Mark driscoll, Pastor Josh McPherson.

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01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 6: Nail it bro just third time to charm.

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01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:39,599
Speaker 1: That's just becoming a gag.

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Speaker 16: It's becoming a bit so guys, you have so I

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01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 16: guess I'm gonna throw it to you. Pastor Josh, you're

1705
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 16: at admonition, your exhortation, your encouragement for pastors you've got

1706
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,280
Speaker 16: you've kind of got it systematized.

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01:28:52,280 --> 01:28:53,559
Speaker 1: So you've got a six point list.

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01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate the Book of Acts and just encouragement.

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01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,160
Speaker 6: Every pastor should preach verse by verse to the Book

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01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:02,519
Speaker 6: of Acts. You'll see profound patterns that apply to this moment.

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01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 6: Talking pastures all across the country. I think there's reason

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01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,400
Speaker 6: to be encouraged we are seeing I would call it

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01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,320
Speaker 6: like three point oh church planner, one point oh two

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01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 6: point zero, three point oh church paneer. They're bold, they're courageous,

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01:29:12,479 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 6: they're differentiated. They're not calculate. They're not running the human

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01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 6: calculus of how this is going to cost me politically,

1717
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 6: or will the board throw me out, will a big

1718
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 6: donor leave. They're just fearless for Jesus sake, and they're

1719
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,240
Speaker 6: seeing their churches explode. Two three, four, five years in

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01:29:25,320 --> 01:29:27,600
Speaker 6: there's five thousand and six thousand, seven thousand people. There

1721
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 6: are numbers I've never seen in my lifetime. So just

1722
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 6: to encourage people listening, God is moving and working and

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01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 6: there's a remarkable crop of leaders coming up who are differentiated,

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01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:39,280
Speaker 6: fearless leaders. But here's what I've seen. There's three There's

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01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:41,960
Speaker 6: three kind of categories of pastors. There's the confused pastor

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Speaker 6: who's calling me on Saturday? Are you going to talk

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01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 6: about Charlie or not? I don't know what to do,

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01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 6: And I'm not necessarily nefarious or cowardice. They're just unclear, right,

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01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,320
Speaker 6: And so I want to speak to those. There's there's

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01:29:52,360 --> 01:29:54,760
Speaker 6: the cowards who know what they should say but have

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01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:56,760
Speaker 6: run the human calculus of what it might cost them

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01:29:56,760 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 6: and chose not to. Then you have the captured they're

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01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 6: just playing for the other team. It's the fourth patrick,

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Speaker 6: the courageous that I believe see the anointing of God

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01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,599
Speaker 6: and the move of God in this generation. That's who

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Speaker 6: Charlie was. And so this sixfold grade of a pastor's

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01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:12,080
Speaker 6: ask him what to do? This is what I tell

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01:30:12,120 --> 01:30:13,360
Speaker 6: him to do. We got time for this. Yeah, you

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01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:16,759
Speaker 6: can hit it right. Number one, set forth the truth plainly.

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Speaker 6: We see. Paul said, I preached to both Jews and

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01:30:19,720 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 6: Greeks repent. Charlie was brilliant at this. He had an

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Speaker 6: ability like nobody I've ever seen to set forth the

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01:30:26,320 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 6: truth in a plain and understandable way. Number Two, demonstrate

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01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 6: the spirit's power, Paul said, we we came not with

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01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:35,679
Speaker 6: wise and persuasive words. Here's the thing, was Charlie wise?

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Speaker 6: Was he persuasive?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 6: But why was he so effective? Because he was working

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01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 6: with the power of the spirit. He wasn't just there

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01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 6: using man's arguments. You know. Jesus said, hey, don't worry

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Speaker 6: about what you're going to say, and to go before

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01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,200
Speaker 6: principals and powers. I'll be there with you. That was

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01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 6: literally Charlie's life, no notes, no ai in front of

1754
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 6: thousands of people on a microphone, right. I think he

1755
01:30:53,800 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 6: was a walking demonstration of the spirit's power. Oftentimes, the

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01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 6: Holy Spirit's the most uninvited guests in our church. We

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01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:03,919
Speaker 6: have to holies, we have to plant, preach, grow churches

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01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 6: that God wants to be at churches for God, not

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01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:10,080
Speaker 6: for man. Charlie would say that often. Third, boldly proclaimed

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Speaker 6: the truth. Paul said, I have not hesitated, and many

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01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 6: pastors hesitate. Should I would I stop running the man

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Speaker 6: calculus of the cost that it's going to require of

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01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 6: you and boldly proclaim the truth. Whatever the cost, because

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01:31:24,280 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 6: here's the cost that you should run. Will I say

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01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 6: something or not say something that could cost me the

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01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:32,439
Speaker 6: anointing of God. That's what matters, not who leaves or

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01:31:32,479 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 6: who stays, or who tweets about you, but what God

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01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 6: thinks about you. And if that's the grid through which

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01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 6: you run the decisions that you make, you'll please the

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Speaker 6: Lord and he'll bless you. Number four Live not by lives.

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Speaker 6: Eric Mattaxus talks about the spiral of silence. The less

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01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 6: people speak up, the higher the cost for those who do.

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01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 6: We saw that with Charlie. Start speaking up, refuse to

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01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 6: pretend that boys can be girls and men can lactate it.

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01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 6: It's like, do not live lies in silence in this

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01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 6: culture is perpetuating the lies. So we have to speak

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01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 6: up about the lies. If if if you're on the wall,

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01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 6: it's being attacked and you're not at the at the

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Speaker 6: point of the breach, you're not being faithful. Number number

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Speaker 6: five you got to enjoy the King. Charlie did this

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01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:22,280
Speaker 6: so well, set forth a clear and compelling vision of

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01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,800
Speaker 6: the beauty of following King Jesus, which means don't stop

1783
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 6: laughing and loving while you're making war. Okay, we're to

1784
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 6: be laughing, happy. And Charlie embodied that so well. He

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01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 6: wasn't angry, he wasn't brooding, he wasn't shadowing. I mean

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Speaker 6: he he was. He was strong. He was strong and

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Speaker 6: happy and that comes from Erica and his children. And lastly,

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Speaker 6: we got to fight downhill and this will be my courage.

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Speaker 6: Meant stop seating the home field advantage, right, And I

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01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,200
Speaker 6: think this might look like if an institution is corrupt,

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01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 6: we might need to step back from those corupt institutions

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01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:56,760
Speaker 6: and start building new ones and better ones like people drowning.

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Speaker 1: The ones that are doing the right thing. That's exactly

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01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: right that and we.

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Speaker 16: Should make that available to every of that list. In

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Speaker 16: the minute I have remaining, I want to honor you,

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Speaker 16: Pastor Mark.

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Speaker 1: Charlie loved this book.

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Speaker 16: This is called Doctrine, and it was when he was

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Speaker 16: asked a couple weeks before he mentioned this book that

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Speaker 16: this is one of the books that was really impacting him.

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Speaker 16: And it's by you, Pastor Mark, and Garba Shears, and

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Speaker 16: you generously have offered it free to this audience. So

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Speaker 16: I want to make sure we have this on the

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Speaker 16: lower text. Doctrine to nine nine three eight three. Please

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01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 16: put that on the There you go text Doctrine to

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Speaker 16: nine nine three eight three.

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Speaker 1: You'll get a free copy of it PDF.

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Speaker 16: You'll get teaching sermons and all, you know, all these

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Speaker 16: other resources totally free, no string suggestion, Bible teaching, just

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Speaker 16: Bible teaching. And here's the thing, guys, you can also

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Speaker 16: go to Charliekirk dot com. We're going to put it

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Speaker 16: up for download there. And I asked if there was

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Speaker 16: some way we could help you, and you just refused,

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Speaker 16: and I just want to bless you and.

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Speaker 1: Honor you for that.

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Speaker 16: We don't want anything yees to help no, And it's

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Speaker 16: just a really sweet gesture. And it's it's been my

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Speaker 16: honor to host both of you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, bro.

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Speaker 1: We'll see tomorrow, everybody with Steve days until then,