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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back inside the U see Hell Training

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Speaker 1: Center for another episode of Broncos Now. As always, team

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Speaker 1: reporter and host of Sidney Jones here and coming up

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Speaker 1: on this week's episode, we'll take a look at the

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Speaker 1: Broncos head coaching search, who owner and CEO Greg Penner

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Speaker 1: and company has reportedly interviewed, and more all that coming up.

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Speaker 1: The Broncos are on their search for their six head

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Speaker 1: following the season. Reportedly, owner and CEO Greg Penner and

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Speaker 1: the team's the Ownership Group are wrapping up their first

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Speaker 1: round of interviews on a Friday, which means there could

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Speaker 1: be an announcement as early as next week. The team

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Speaker 1: has reportedly interviewed Sean Payton, Jugerio Vero, David Shaw, Raheem Morris,

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn on Friday. Whoever, Earlier this week, Jim Harball

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Speaker 1: announced that he will remain the head coach at the

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Speaker 1: University of Michigan. To take a more in depth look

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Speaker 1: at some of these candidates, joining me here inside the

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Speaker 1: Broncos Podcast studio is fellow team reporter Phil Melani. Phil,

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Speaker 1: thanks for joining me today. It's been a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: I know, thanks for having me. Of course, did you

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Speaker 1: take some time after the season to kind of recharge

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Speaker 1: the battery? I am all in on the coaching search now, good.

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Speaker 1: I love it. Yes, of course we got a little

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Speaker 1: bit of downtime, but as you know, things always picked

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Speaker 1: back up around here. Of course, now with the search

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Speaker 1: for a new head coach, Phil, you know, we've seen

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Speaker 1: Penner and company. They reportedly met with Sean Payton on

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Speaker 1: Tuesday in Los Angeles, So let's start there. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's reported to be one of the favorites. So what

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it would be like a

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Speaker 1: and the whole mentality and feeling around the Broncos would

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Speaker 1: completely change. So I think that he's that kind of

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Speaker 1: And you know, obviously Greg Penner that was a big

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Speaker 1: So there seems to be a connection already there. And um,

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Speaker 1: I think that there's a lot of reasons that make

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Speaker 1: him the top choice right now. Yeah. I know, Phil,

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Speaker 1: he's being by nearly every team that has a head

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Speaker 1: and he said, the most important thing is the ownership group.

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Speaker 1: But more than that, they've said, look, we're willing to

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Speaker 1: And when you have an ownership group like that, uh,

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Speaker 1: So I think that this ownership group is really attractive.

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