1 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear. 2 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: When you're a guest to my home, you gotta come 3 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: to me empty. And I said, no, guests, your own 4 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So 5 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: how did you dare to surbey me? 6 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm pretcher wine girl. 7 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: Oh that continues to be my biggest challenge. It just rained. 8 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: We're in the backyard, of course, so the air could 9 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 2: not be crisper. And the only real situation is the 10 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: leak in my garage that I thought I had repaired. 11 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 2: Absolutely did not hold. Do not ask me to repair 12 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: your garage. Let's stop talking about it. I'm ready to 13 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: get into the podcast. I love today's guest. He's incredible. 14 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: It's Paul Fige. Hello Bridger, Paul, Welcome to. I said 15 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: no gifts. 16 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 3: Thanks so much. I was going to ask you to 17 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: fix my garage. 18 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: But if you die, I've lost the job. 19 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: All yeah, I'm sorry. 20 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 2: Oh god, Well, let's just shut down the podcast. You 21 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 2: can go home. You got lost on your way. 22 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: Here, I did, I did. My GPS screwed me. 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: And you went to Van Nins. Yes, which is very 24 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: much the other direction. 25 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 3: It's totally the other direction. And I thought it was 26 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: sending me on some route that was really clever because 27 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: I wasn't sure where I was coming to, but I 28 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 3: had gone somewhere in Van Eys yesterday and for some reason, 29 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 3: it made that my first stop on my way to 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: sue you. 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be kind of like a sneaking around 32 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: way if you were going like a sneak attack. 33 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: I want to actually go around the world and meet 34 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: you by coming the other. 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 2: Way, which I would have appreciated. Yeah, big entran, I mean. 36 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 2: And then the other thing about your entrance is you're 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 2: now storing some things in my fridge. 38 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: I am, I am. I'm storing some eggnog and some 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: heavy cream for cocktails I will be making at this party. 40 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 2: I'm going to Christmas Beautiful, So this is a stop 41 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 2: on your way to a party. 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 3: Yes, to a Christmas party exactly. 43 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: And you're dressed very appropriate. 44 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 3: Well I would normally be wearing a suit and tie, 45 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 3: but not this one, right, I'm wearing a very christmasya. 46 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: How many suits do you own? 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: Quite a few, I would say, between the three places 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: that I live, because I live in London, New York, 49 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 3: and here, I dare say, there's one hundred suits spread 50 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 3: across this globe. 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 2: And let me ask you. Have you always worn suits 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 2: or is this like in the last twenty years. 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 3: No. When I was a kid, I always wore suits. 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: I actually got my first suit when I was about 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 3: nine years old, got a three piece suit. I loved, 56 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: a Pierre Carden. It's a very spicy number. And then yeah, 57 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 3: then I I kind of you know, I you know, 58 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 3: I'm an older man. I grew up in the disco era, 59 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 3: and so when I was in high school, like from 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: seventy six to eighty, it was very disco oriented and 61 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 3: so I, you know, you always dressed. 62 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: Up for right right? 63 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:17,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 2: And do you have any of those suits left over? 65 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 3: No? I wish I did. There's actually some suit I honestly, 66 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 3: you know, you look at like Tom Ford these days 67 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: and it's so inspired by the know that with the 68 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 3: big lapels and everything. So I usould have just hung 69 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 3: on everything I had. 70 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: What's the oldest suit you're currently own? 71 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 3: What is my oldest suit? I got some really old books. 72 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: I gotta say, I think my oldest one is probably 73 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 3: I would there say, twenty years old. 74 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god. 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, great. 76 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 2: And is it still in the rotation. 77 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: No, but some other ones have been bumped up. I 78 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: had some fifteen year old ones that I had retailored. Okay, 79 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: so I have a really great tailor in Beverly Hills 80 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: who can take like a suit that's out of style 81 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: and kind of put it slightly back into style. 82 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: That's incredible. Yeah, and of course you hold on to 83 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 2: them because they can circle back. 84 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: That's exactly it. There's nothing worse than getting something. Then 85 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: you're like, oh, you know, like if I had that, 86 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: I could have worn it. 87 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: Oh, hunting failing. Do you just think about a piece 88 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 2: of clothing tragedy, absolutely horrible and you have basically a uniform? 89 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 3: Yes? 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: Does it make life feel easier or are you still 91 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: stressed about what you're wearing? 92 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 3: Well, it'd be easier if I just wore the exact 93 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 3: same suit every day, you know, like like Jeff goldbloom 94 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 3: in the Fly or whatever anything he had, like, so 95 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 3: he didn't you have to use any extra brain power 96 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 3: or Steve Jobs. I think to that. 97 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 2: Oh Steve Jobs, I've heard. 98 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. 99 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: No. 100 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: I have a lot of stress about my wardrobe. It's 101 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 3: not so much figuring out what I'm gonna wear. It's 102 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: more during the day, like making sure everything is not 103 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 3: falling apart. Tie is not cricket very anal very anal. 104 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: Right, And let me ask you this, what do you 105 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: wear to bed? 106 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: Well, I'm I'm actually in the buffer fantastic exactly, but 107 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,479 Speaker 3: I have nice pajamas that I wear before. 108 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: Oh okay, So is there any point in the day 109 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: where you're like in a T shirt? 110 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: If I'm for my workout, I do a morning walk 111 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: every day, oh okay, four mile walk, So for that 112 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: I will put on a T shirt and sweat sweatshirt. 113 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: And are those do you feel like you really pick 114 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: those to belong within your style or those truly just 115 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: for comfort des are? 116 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all swag. Every T shirt I've ever gotten 117 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: for free from a production gets worn when I go out. 118 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: So that's the only time of the day that we 119 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: might catch you looking like a slob. 120 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. If you were to go to my local 121 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 3: coffee shop where I have breakfast every day, you chances 122 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 3: are you will see me like that. The funny thing 123 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 3: is because I'm usually in there in that, so when 124 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: occasionally come in a suit, they're so surprised and yet 125 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 3: everybody else will be surprised to see me in sweatpants. 126 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 2: Oh that's so fascinating. Do you have any other rituals 127 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 2: like this in your life or is this the one 128 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: big thing? 129 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: Um? 130 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's probably the main one. I mean yeah, 131 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 3: I would dare say that's you know, other other than 132 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: you know, liking cocktails and making stuff like that. But no, 133 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 3: that's the thing that you know, daily I have to 134 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 3: do with is you know how I dress right? 135 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 2: And as far as like today was raining, Yeah, do 136 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: you have a raincoat you throw over the suit. 137 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 3: No, I'm more of an umbrella guy and you just 138 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: kind of dash to the dash to the car. But 139 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: when I'm in you know, New York or London, then 140 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: I do have raincoat. It's getting hard to find good raincoats. 141 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: I will say, Oh, really like functional rain raincoats. 142 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 2: Where are you looking for them? 143 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: Well? I like to go to like, you know, I 144 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: want a proper like for over a suit kind of 145 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 3: a raincoat. And they used to make ones that were 146 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: just like you know, like it was a shell, looked 147 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 3: like you know, a man's raincoat, right, But now it's 148 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 3: either got to be like a big trench coat, from 149 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 3: berbery and they're not that they're not waterproof ale out 150 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: of them. Oh, I know, it's very weird, like it's 151 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 3: hard to find just like a lightweight long, you know, 152 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: down to your knee kind of you know, not duster 153 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 3: but a shell or something that. Right, I can put 154 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 3: throw pono, but why would I do that? 155 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: Add to the rotation. 156 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 3: That's if I can make a make poncho stylish, I 157 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 3: would be I'd be all, yeah, there are some beautiful 158 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: actual poncho as opposed to rain ponchos. 159 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, I feel like I could, I should 160 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 2: throw a poncho in the road. Take I appreciate that 161 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: support you could. 162 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: Friend, and I always we always want to bring back 163 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 3: like antiquated men's fashion stuff, and we're really obsessed for 164 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: years about trying to bring the cape back. 165 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: Oh the cape. I feel like somebody is going to 166 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 2: eventually nail the cape. 167 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 3: I think. So the problem is is so not functional? 168 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, what what does it offer? 169 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 3: Not much unless you want to be like Dracula and 170 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: cover your face or you or try to fly off 171 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: a building. 172 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: I get or say I'm wearing a cap, Well, that's 173 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 2: exactly that's the reason you wear a cape. Do you 174 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 2: own any capes or have you tried to wear one? 175 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've got a couple and I've tried to wear them, 176 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 3: but they're they're really you really get stared at me. 177 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: It's just such an affect where it's just like people 178 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 2: this jerk. 179 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, because you know, I use a walking stick 180 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 3: a lot, like when I direct. I just love walking sticks. 181 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: I don't need it. I needed it would be a cane, 182 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: But I like walking with the But that you have 183 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: these mornings, You're like, did I want to have that 184 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 3: many people staring at me today? Because you know it's 185 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 3: either going to drag the tenent or people are gonna 186 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: get them up and say something right, And. 187 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: I feel like even because you you are always so 188 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: nicely dressed, Like if you're at the grocery store, are 189 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 2: people taking a look? 190 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: H yeah you do look well? Well No, here's what happens, 191 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: my friend, is wherever you are wearing a suit, people 192 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: will come up and ask you questions because they think 193 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: you work there. Oh interesting, anywhere you're at the airport, 194 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 3: excuse me, yours a bathroom? I don't know what any Yeah, 195 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 3: because there's some about a man in a suit and tie. 196 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: They just assume you work there. 197 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: They assume you're mister lax, you own the airport. 198 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: No, I know, I wasn't like the lounge the other week, 199 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: and I mean I couldn't walk the length of it 200 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: without like it. I think like three people ask me 201 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 3: a different question about the lounge, like do you just 202 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: assume I know the lounge so well because I'm a 203 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 3: frequent flyer, or no, it's because you think I work here. 204 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 2: You should take advantage of that power. 205 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 3: I just send them done terrible. So whatever you want, 206 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 3: it can only be revenged. That's all I could ever 207 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: do with it. 208 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: You hope that you run into like a low level 209 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: anime that you can kind. 210 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: Of eactly say, right out that door, right on that door. 211 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: Here's a question. Is there anything that you do badly? 212 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 2: I mean I was thinking about the garage and me 213 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: my horrible attempt at fixing a leak. Right I should not. 214 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 2: I should have just had somebody do it. 215 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, well you know, but I mean but that you 216 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 3: kind of want to save money. Sometimes you want to 217 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: feel like a DIY or too. 218 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: Well, I would feel incredible, But I mean every DIY 219 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 2: I've ever attempted has failed What do you do poorly? 220 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: What's something you're like? I wish I was better. 221 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: At anything sports related. Oh sure, anything that requires coordination, 222 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: to be quite honest, and I always think I can 223 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: do it, and it's always a disaster. 224 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: I'm very much on the same page with you there. Yeah, 225 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: let me ask you. Do you like badminton? 226 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: I do like bad mote. I enjoyed playing the sports. 227 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: I'm just terrible at them. 228 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 2: Okay. 229 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: I started playing pickleball with a friend of mine. I 230 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: might have a shot at that. 231 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 2: The way it's taken the world by storm is remarkable. 232 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: It's why I think I think it's just for older folks, 233 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 3: but maybe the younger generation. 234 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: Everybody's doing really everybody except for me, of course, because 235 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 2: I have not been given the opportunity. And it scares never. 236 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 2: But you're into pickleball and you feel like you're improving. 237 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: I've only played twice. Okay, well, but I wasn't a disaster, 238 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 3: that's all I know. 239 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 2: Well that's a pretty good thing. Sign two games in 240 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 2: and you're decent at it. 241 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 3: Ye, Well, yeah, I'm not embarrassing at it. For those 242 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 3: of the those are your audience that don't know what 243 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 3: pickleball is because up until a few weeks ago, I 244 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: had no idea what right, right. It's basically like a 245 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 3: ping pong that you can stand on the table because 246 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 3: you have these solid kind of you know whatever, they 247 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 3: are rackets, and the ball is like a little whiffle ball, 248 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 3: so it super light and bounces, and then the cord 249 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: is like the you know, the size of somebody's driveway. 250 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: Right, Are you going to like a community pickleball court? 251 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 3: That would be sad. It's like I've joined a very 252 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: high end pickleball club. It's very exclusive. I'm sorry you 253 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: and your friends. 254 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Yeah, I guess I should give. I feel 255 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: like I played pickleball in high school. Any game with 256 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: a solid, hard piece of plastic scares me. I feel 257 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: like i'pen to get hit by it. 258 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: Well, I'm with you. This one's pretty light though. Okay, 259 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 3: but yeah, because I remember having to play like hockey 260 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 3: floor hockey, Oh, being the goalie and just getting smacked 261 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: right in the floor. Horrifying pucks. 262 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 2: Floor hockey is that you're on foot? Yeah yeah, yeah, 263 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,559 Speaker 2: that doesn't seem like a good game at all to me. 264 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 3: No, it was, it was. I don't know if it's 265 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: played beyond grade school. But all I know is that they, 266 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 3: you know, there's not I hate about sports and playing 267 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 3: sports and all that. There's everybody else is so into 268 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: it and it's so competitive and they just you know, 269 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: how many times have I been like on a show 270 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: and we started a softball team. You got to come 271 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,200 Speaker 3: out and play. It's gonna be so much fun. It's 272 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 3: never fun. It's always fucking terrible because there's always some asshole. 273 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: You come on, then you can pick that up, you 274 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: go throw it. It's like, all right, I'm out. You 275 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 3: know what, this is not fun. 276 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 2: This was meant to be fun, and we've turned it 277 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 2: into a horrible, horrifying business. 278 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because it's always somebody who's super competitive. 279 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:15,199 Speaker 2: And better at it than everybody else, of course. 280 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 3: Of course, and though they want you to be at 281 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 3: their level and we're just there to like to goof around. 282 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,559 Speaker 2: Do you like watching any sports? 283 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: I used to be into baseball. I found kind of fun. 284 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: But then I honestly I had like season tickets to 285 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: the Dodgers back in the nineties, and then when they 286 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 3: had this big strike it was like a year long 287 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 3: strike that shut down baseball was kind of like it 288 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: made it not fun anymore. Oh that's right, it's a business. 289 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: Yes, this is all about money. 290 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 291 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 3: When I'm in England, I actually can enjoy watching cricket occasionally. 292 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 2: Oh sure, that's fun. It's a very win in rome situation, 293 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: very much. 294 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 3: So. Yeah. 295 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 2: I feel like for the last probably at this point 296 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: eight years, I keep saying I'm going to get into basketball. 297 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: When the season rolls around, I'm gonna start, I'm gonna 298 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: pick a team, and absolutely has not. 299 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 3: It's just too much mayhem for my test. You know 300 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: about like baseball and cricket or forever is like okay, 301 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 3: one person comes up and watch them do their thing. 302 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 3: Then it goes you know, like you know, I tried 303 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: to watch the World Cup and it's just like what's happening? 304 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 3: Everybody's running around and then it's like suddenly there's a score. 305 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: You know, I will say this about soccer. I love 306 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 2: that the clock starts ticking and you know it's going 307 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 2: to be over. 308 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: Oh no, totally that's true. But that's why I you know, 309 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: I talked to a lot of my my British friends 310 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: because they're always like, what is you know this a 311 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 3: soccer football take off? Over here? He said, it's because 312 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: Americans we are so goal oriented that you got to 313 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: know when it's gonna end. Like you watch a soccer game, 314 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 3: it's like, oh, it's almost over. Oh no, oh, and 315 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: there's two and a half more minutes because of penalty one, 316 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: you know, and then it can end in a tie 317 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 3: or no score, and like that's just so not American. 318 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: No one ever gets to just tie. No, no, someone 319 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 2: must be defeated. 320 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: Yes, exactly. It's not going to movie and go and 321 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: there's no ending. We just go home. 322 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: Well, look you we're obviously both huge jocks, and we 323 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:03,680 Speaker 2: could talk about sports all day. 324 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: Yes, but there. 325 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: Is something else I wouldn't mind talking to you about. 326 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: Lea. 327 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 2: Obviously, you ran into some trouble getting here, and then 328 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 2: you show up and you rudely ask to use my fridge. 329 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 3: Exactly. 330 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 2: I'm putting all of these things aside. I'm thinking we'll 331 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: just get to the podcast. It'll be fine. 332 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 3: Let's get them out of here, just get. 333 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: Through it, just deal with it. And then of course 334 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: there was another surprise. Yes, the podcast is called I 335 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: said no Gifts. 336 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 3: I'm a rebel. I'm a rebel. 337 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you showed up with the eggnog and everything. Put 338 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: that in the fridge. And then you had two objects 339 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: that are clearly gifts. They're in gift wrap. You handed 340 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 2: them to me. Are these gifts for me? 341 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 3: They are? I'm sorry, I just I can't show up 342 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,320 Speaker 3: without a gift. You can tell me not do what 343 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: I will do. 344 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: It they're okay, Well that's not a behavior I expected 345 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: from you. Why I thought, you know, I thought Paul 346 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: is somebody who's in control. Well, he respects boundaries, Well, 347 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: he doesn't stir the pot. 348 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: Well, this is my way to control the situation. So 349 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 3: it's actually control freak. 350 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: Highly manipulative. It's sickening to see this sort of thing 351 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 2: happen on my podcast. 352 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 3: I know, I know. 353 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 2: Well, should I open it here on the show? 354 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 3: Yes? Please open your gifts? Okay, open a small one. 355 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 2: Okay, there are two, Yeah, there are two different objects here. 356 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: One's kind of a round thing and then the other's 357 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 2: more of a a rectangle thing. You know, I know 358 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: my shapes, so I'm going to open this round thing first. 359 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: It's an interesting uh hoalase, I'll hold the mic while 360 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 2: I open this on. Lias is in a striking jack 361 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: it as well. Everyone's really well dressed. 362 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: They stepping it up. 363 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 2: Let's see. Oh, this felt way harder than I expected. 364 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 3: I think it's a little old. 365 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: It's a lemon, which I was like, is this going 366 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: to be a whiffle ball? It was so hard. 367 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: I should have brought a pickleball. I know, had I 368 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 3: know we were going to venture into pickleball territory. 369 00:16:19,880 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 2: But then we would have exhausted the conversation. I would 370 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 2: have just had to move on from the ball. Why 371 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: are you giving me a lemon? It's a well, let's 372 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: say it's an average looking lemon. 373 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's not the greatest lemon. Well, it's it's 374 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: part of a part of a set. Oh is it 375 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 3: part of this out? 376 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: We're going to open it up? Well, let's yeah, let's 377 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: open it. 378 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 3: We can dwell on the lemon if you like, we'll 379 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: get back. 380 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, I've got thoughts on lemons. On Lisa's returning. 381 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: To hold the mic, I wish I'd brought even more presents, 382 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: just so could never get We're. 383 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: Slowly getting into the package here, and it's a very 384 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 2: cute rap. Is that a Scottie dog? 385 00:16:58,440 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 3: We have a Scotty dog? 386 00:16:59,320 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding? 387 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, well, we'll he lives in London. Oh he does, yes, Okay, 388 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 3: well he's moved aways, moved back to his home. 389 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: Career. 390 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: It's a citrus squeezer. 391 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: It is. 392 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: This is okay, So, first of all, whatever we end 393 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: up talking about wonderful. This is such a practical, wonderful 394 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 2: thing for me to own. 395 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it seems like a lot. 396 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: Of people give me. Let's be honest, things are that 397 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: are unusable. They're cluttering my home. 398 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: Oh I've heard that. Yeah, I know, I know. I 399 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 3: don't want to add to clutter because my life is 400 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 3: trying to get rid of things that I don't need. 401 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is something I can put in the kitchen 402 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: drawer and actually used. But I'm curious as to why 403 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: you brought these things. 404 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 3: Well, I like to make cocktails, and then I find 405 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: that in cocktails you do use a lot of fresh citrus, right, 406 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 3: you know. And I don't want you, if you're going 407 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 3: to make a cocktail to go to the store and 408 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 3: buy one of those like plastic lemons. Squeeze that horrendous 409 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 3: whatever that is out of it. It's supposed to be 410 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:55,199 Speaker 3: lemon juice. I want you to be classic when you 411 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 3: have friends over you want to make a cocktail, you 412 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 3: pull this out. 413 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 2: It's so yeah, so Alton professional, Well that's exactly it. Okay, 414 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: So you're very much into cocktails. And is this a 415 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 2: long time thing or is it like you've slowly developed 416 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 2: this interest. What's the deal? 417 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 3: Well, to me, cocktails always stood for everything I wanted 418 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: my adult life to be because it made it was cool. Right. So, 419 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: like I I've told this story before, So if an 420 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 3: your listeners have listened to me on other. 421 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: Podcast, just go forward writing that bad review. 422 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 3: That's right. No, when I was about five or six, 423 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: my parents took me to Las Vegas because they were 424 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 3: going to see a fight, like a Muhammad al Leaf fight, 425 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 3: and and so they were going to put me in 426 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 3: the nursery at the casino nursery. They went casino nursery. 427 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: I know there used to be a casino nursery. Yeah, 428 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 3: this was like the dunes or I know, one of 429 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: one of those old ones. 430 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: Could you smoke there too? 431 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 3: You know you could ask. That's where I had my 432 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: first martini. No, but so you would kind of you 433 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 3: couldn't go. The kids couldn't walk through the casino. Now 434 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: I think kids can walk in Oh yeah, but you 435 00:18:59,880 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 3: have to go around the outside or this like outside 436 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 3: like outer rim and in the for some weird reason, 437 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 3: the nursery was a glass sliding door right there that 438 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 3: looked out on the casino floor. So I guess you 439 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: could watch your parents lose, lose your college money, just 440 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 3: ruined their line exactly. So they put me in there. 441 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: And so I'm up against this window staring out. I 442 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: didn't want to be in there because I hated other 443 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 3: kids when I was a kid, because I just wanted 444 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 3: to be with the adults. And I'm watching this, you know, 445 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 3: grown up playground of people. And that's when people dressed 446 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,719 Speaker 3: up nice, right, They're drinking cocktails, they're smoking and all 447 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: this Now just the they go like, God is my witness. 448 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 3: I'm going to be that, like you know, and so 449 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 3: as a kid, it just like but to me, seeing 450 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 3: people sipping like Martini's was just that was the thing 451 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 3: that stuck in my head. 452 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 2: Oh that's lovely. Okay. So at a very early age, 453 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 2: you decided this is going to be me. Do you 454 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 2: have siblings? 455 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 3: No? 456 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: Oh, okay, so there was no sibling that like fell 457 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 2: by the wayside as a slob while you were soaring. 458 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 3: No, no, I did not have an odd couple situation. 459 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 2: Okay, And so now I have these things, and are 460 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: there any cocktails you recommend I make? 461 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: Well, I mean squeeze er aside. I'm a martini guy. 462 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 3: That's my favorite. 463 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: Classic yeah, classic, classic. 464 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it has to be made very the correct way, right, 465 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 3: to be very cold, very dry. 466 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 2: When you're at a party or some sort of mixer 467 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 2: or airport lounge, like, are the drinks being served to 468 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: garbage and you're usually unsatisfied? 469 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 3: Well, it depends. Yeah, it's I mean, if you're at 470 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 3: a place that doesn't kind of specialize in cocktails, and 471 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 3: I'm not talking about those real some some I just 472 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 3: find obnoxious because the mixology is so over the top, 473 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. But just like you know, 474 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 3: you like like like Polo Bar in New York, you know, 475 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 3: or Bemmelman's or something like that, or here you know, 476 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 3: the Roosevelt or then you know, they're just like they're 477 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 3: making you know, Musso Franks. They make like a great martini, right, 478 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 3: you know, and it's just old school. Yeah, but I've 479 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 3: the martinis go off the rails so easily. It seems 480 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: like the easiest drink it's one of the hardest drinks 481 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 3: to get right for some weird reason. 482 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 2: What does it take to make one correct? 483 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 3: Well, First of all, it's personal taste. So some people 484 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: like a very wet Martin which has a lot of 485 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 3: remouth in it. Most people don't. I don't, and so 486 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: I like just like a drop of vermouth or even 487 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 3: just a rinse where you rinse the glass with it first. 488 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: But I do like I'd rather have it in it 489 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 3: because I'd rather have it mixed with it right, right, 490 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 3: So if there's too much remouth and it's like, uh, 491 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 3: that's kind of a drag. And then if it's not 492 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: cold enough. That's the biggest sin I find a lot 493 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 3: of places, is that it's in it like it's lukewarm. 494 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 2: It's the room temperature, right. I've heard of this rinsing 495 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: before this is I don't. I don't drink, and so 496 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,119 Speaker 2: this is all so fascinating too. But the idea of 497 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 2: rinsing a dish before putting another thing in, just for 498 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: the touch of flame, it. 499 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 3: Kind of you know, you're seasoning the glass with it. 500 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: It's so fascinating. 501 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 3: It is good that you don't drink. You look, but 502 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: is it good because I'm only forty years old. This 503 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 3: is how bad I like from drinking. No, Paul is. 504 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: He is not doing well. 505 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: He's lived a hard eighteen lives or eighteen years and lives. 506 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: It's a problem. No, I don't think it's good or bad. 507 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 2: It's for me. It's not really a it's I grew 508 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 2: up Mormon, and so it's like, uh, not nice. 509 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 3: Well, my editor at bread White is mormonal. 510 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: Oh you're kidding. Yeah, I mean, there are a lot 511 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 2: of good things, a lot of bad things, but it 512 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 2: just was a thing that I never did, and then 513 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: it just followed me into adult life. And so but 514 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 2: the whole world is fascinating to me because I still 515 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: feel like such a baby about drinking. I know nothing 516 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: about it. 517 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: Well, there's nothing wrong with that, But now the juicer 518 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 3: is even more important to you. 519 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, making my grapefruit juice, making my lemon juice, 520 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: my trees here, finally fruiting some sort of things, so 521 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 2: I'll be able to use it for those and when 522 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 2: my friends come over to drink. There you go, I 523 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: can make the Maybe I should teach myself a few 524 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: little well. 525 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, Well, I have a cocktail book 526 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: that just came out. Oh you should get that, and 527 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 3: it's got one hundred and twenty five recies. 528 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: Work did you put into the cocktail book? Like? How 529 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 2: long did that take you? I'm curious. 530 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 3: It was a pandemic. Oh, of course, because I did 531 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,439 Speaker 3: a live show on Instagram one hundred days in a row, 532 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 3: every day at five o'clock to raise money for charities, 533 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: and to teach myself how to make cocktails. 534 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing. 535 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and so it just kind of came out of that. 536 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 3: People were like, oh, put out a book with the recipes, 537 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 3: and then it just grew into this whole thing of 538 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,719 Speaker 3: how to throw a cocktail, powder, how to stock your bar, 539 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 3: and then every drink comes with like a funny personal story. 540 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: Oh sure. Was that purely enjoyable to write or did 541 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 2: it become stressful? No? 542 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 3: That was fun. That was a lot of funk. Something 543 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: like that is fun because it's not you know, writing 544 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: scripts is stressful. It's all like how do I do 545 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: it in the shortest time? How do I you know, 546 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,159 Speaker 3: I mean, how do I make each scene short and 547 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 3: get it across and then the story in a track? 548 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 3: And it's just so stressful. So like I do that 549 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 3: writing in the morning and then the afternoon like, oh 550 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 3: good night, just gonna write something dumb. 551 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: Just something that's so far removed from what you actually do. Yeah, 552 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: did you do develop your own cocktails? 553 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: Yeah? I do. I've got about twenty originals. 554 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: And twenty and do they each have a different name, Yeah, 555 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 2: they have different such as well, there's a fig teeny 556 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 2: of course, which had to be in there. 557 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: Actually it was called the quarantine. But then when nobody 558 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: wants to think. 559 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 2: Of it, that's a bit of a bummer at this point. 560 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 3: Exactly, we're all done with that. But no, I have 561 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: one called the Squeaky Door, which was for my wife 562 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: because when we would shoot our show is out in 563 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 3: my guest house and she would always come into the 564 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 3: end to try the drink. But our guest house door 565 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 3: is super squeaky, so people would hear that and they go, oh, 566 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 3: there's a squeaky door. Youre can floor you. And so 567 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: that I just whatever herd called the squeaky door. 568 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: What's in the squeaky door? 569 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 3: A lot of stuff in the squeaky door. It's got 570 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 3: like cherry hearing in there, and it's got orange cirasow 571 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 3: and it's got gin of course, and a bunch of 572 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: several ingredients and then it's then it's on the rocks 573 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 3: with a club soda. It's a very refreshing drink. 574 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 2: Now, why haven't you fixed the squeaky. 575 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: Door because it just became part of part of our lore. 576 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 3: It would be sad. It would be sort of you know, 577 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 3: like Seth Rogen making his voice melodic and British accent. 578 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah, you're just stuck with it now. 579 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 2: It's part of your brand, the squeaky door. 580 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 3: I know that door opened and there's no squeak. 581 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: I would be very like it moved out or something. 582 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 3: And then I could be murdered too, because nobody's in here. 583 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 3: I didn't hear the arts squeak. 584 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 2: And then, yeah, squeaky door is kind of a natural alarm. 585 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. My dog doesn't alertic to anything if 586 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: enyody's in the house. 587 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: No, so you said your dog lives in England full time. 588 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's in England. 589 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: Did he start in the US. 590 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's only moved to England in the last like 591 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 3: half a year. 592 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: I guess, okay, And is he enjoying life there? 593 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: He loves it. According to my wife, she's like, he's 594 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 3: so happy. He's like, is he happy? Yes, he's obsessed 595 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 3: with black cabs. 596 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 2: Oh, right, of course he's. 597 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 3: A black cab. He will run and jump in. 598 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: Does he like riding in cars? 599 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 3: Yeah? 600 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: He does, Okay, he does. What was why did you 601 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: make the decision to send him away to England? Because 602 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 2: my wife wanted him there. 603 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 3: Well, my wife she wants to be based there. That 604 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: the home base, and we've been living there pretty much 605 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 3: for the last four years because my last two movies 606 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 3: shot in the UK and then I did Post and 607 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 3: all that. But now I'm kind of all over the place, 608 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 3: so she just wants a base out of there because 609 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm never around anyways. 610 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So how much over your year are you 611 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 2: now spent? Is it London you're living in? 612 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it just depends on what project I'm on, 613 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 3: because yeah, like I said, you know, the last four 614 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 3: years we were there, we were back here for the 615 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: for the pandemic, for the lockdown. Fortunately, we were actually 616 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 3: supposed to be there where they were renovating the place 617 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: we were going to rent, so we would have been 618 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 3: stuck in it commpletely not finished the Yeah, so this 619 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: worked out great to be here but yeah, but I 620 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 3: you know, like this year, I'll be living in Atlanta 621 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: for the coming up in the next four months to 622 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 3: do post and then I'm probably going to do post 623 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: you know, shoot it there and do post here, so 624 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 3: I belong to the world. 625 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 2: Do you like being all over the place? It keeps 626 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: things interesting. 627 00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: I never happier than when I'm getting on an airplane. 628 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, interest. Yeah, I have. I struggle on an 629 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 2: airplane physically. It is so difficult for me. 630 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the actual flight is not that fun. Well 631 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 3: you know you're going somewhere. 632 00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, to know the destination. But I guess like maybe 633 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: I just need a lobotomy or something, because even the 634 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 2: destination at this point doesn't matter to me. It's just 635 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: all pain and wanting. 636 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 3: To be home. I hear you, I hear you. 637 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 2: So you were Did you shoot a movie? Is that 638 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 2: what you're doing in Atlanta? 639 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:26,680 Speaker 3: Yeah? 640 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: Oh fantastic. And can you talk about the movie at all? 641 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 3: We haven't announced it. 642 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 2: Oh wow, this is so exciting. 643 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's it's gonna be fun with a big 644 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,640 Speaker 3: action comedy. 645 00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 2: Oh, wonderful thing. And is this for twenty twenty four? 646 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's actually going to be out the end 647 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 3: of supposedly out of the end of next year. 648 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 2: Oh wonderful. Okay, so twenty twenty three, that's there. You go, 649 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 2: there you go. That's very exciting. And have you spent 650 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:48,800 Speaker 2: much time in Atlanta? 651 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 3: No, this is my first time. I was there once 652 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 3: overnight when we were doing the movie The Heat, because 653 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 3: I had to go into Melissa McCarthy that was shooting 654 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 3: a movie there, and so Sandra came and I came 655 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 3: in and we just did the day of kind of 656 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 3: reading script and rehearsal. But that's the only time I 657 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: ever spent there. Oh. 658 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 2: Interesting. Will there be a lot to explore there? 659 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was just there for this last week to 660 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 3: scouting locations and it was nice. It was really nice. 661 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 3: Found some good food. I'm going to gain a thousand 662 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: pounds there though, because that's Southern cooking, so good and 663 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: so famming. 664 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 2: A good biscuit, Is there anything better? 665 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: Oh? My god, biscuits and gravy, delicious, Shrimp and grits. 666 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 3: That's my favorite, my obsession for breakfast. 667 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,880 Speaker 2: I've never had shrimp and grits. You have it for breakfast? Yes, 668 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: it's so often. 669 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: I had it every day of the week when I 670 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: was here this last week because because I know I'm 671 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 3: not going to be there. But when I go back, 672 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: I can't do that every day, right, Although I do, 673 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: I do them as lowcale as you can. I don't 674 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 3: do the shrimp grits. I mean, I don't do the 675 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 3: cheese grits. Oh, regular grits, and then the shrimp is 676 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: in there, and then I don't have any like bacon 677 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 3: on it or anything. And they sometimes I'll put like 678 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 3: a cream sauce. I don't do that. 679 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: Wow. It doesn't really go all out with Oh you 680 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: can go. 681 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: Nuts, Oh my god, totally. I just get hot sauce. 682 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: I slather it with hot Oh sure, I'm a hot sauce. 683 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: For hot sauce is a miracle. Everything tastes wonderful. Everything 684 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 2: it's healthy always, it's not. You don't have to feel 685 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 2: You can have as much hot sauce as you want. 686 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. There's some some famous explorer, I don't know, somebody 687 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 3: today who travels constantly and it goes to all the 688 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 3: craziest places all in the world. It eats. And they said, 689 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: what's the one thing you always have with you? And 690 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: they said, a bottles of tabasco. 691 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: Sauce. 692 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, are you a tabasco io? 693 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 3: But I like a little more flavor, like jlula, like tapatillo, 694 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: But I don't like those Like I like hot, but 695 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: I don't like those ones are just like just burn 696 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: your mouth and then butole. You know, it's kind of like, 697 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 3: forget it. I don't enjoy fire in the whole eight 698 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: hours after I eat. 699 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I need it to be just enough to excite me. Yeah, 700 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: and add some flavor. 701 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 3: Exactly if it becomes painful and I'm not getting anything 702 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: other than pain. 703 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a whole other category of the psychology. There 704 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: is a fully different thing. Yeah. 705 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 3: Anytime, like you know, the name of the hot sauce 706 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 3: has death or he exactly, then I'm out. I don't 707 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: need that. 708 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's interesting. I've never thought of shrimp as 709 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: a breakfast food. 710 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it can be, you know, I don't. I'm not 711 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 3: a fan of just breakfast food, you know what I mean. 712 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 2: You're not like an eggs and bacon person. 713 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: I mean, I can eat them, and I do, but 714 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: I don't find that's what I look forward to, like 715 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 3: the greatest experience I ever had. We were in Italy 716 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: number of a few years ago and staying at this 717 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 3: place where they just kind of they will go, well, 718 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: we'll make you whatever you want for breakfast. I was like, 719 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: can I have like Penny arabiata with chicken? Yes? It's like, 720 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: oh my god, this is the greatest thing ever. Yeah. 721 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: So I can stay away from breakfast. 722 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: With them, but you do have breakfast somewhere here every day, 723 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 2: and what like, what are you ordering for breakfast? 724 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 3: My breakfast is I have a chicken breast with steam broccoli. 725 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: Paul, This is absolutely fascinating. That is absolutely fascinating. My 726 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 2: boyfriend and I went to breakfast with a friend a 727 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: couple of years ago and she got I believe, chicken 728 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 2: soup and a glass of wine. And it was, what's happening? 729 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: The glass of wine? Is that's the great one? 730 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: Yeah? So this is, uh, this is very close to that. 731 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 3: Will You'll be surprised how many people I see at 732 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: this coffee shop order mimosas in the morning. Oh yeah, 733 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 3: this is this is not like a fancy coffee shop. 734 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 3: This is like a you know, a down and dirty 735 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 3: cor Oh. Interesting, So this thing, you know, with some 736 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 3: orange juice and then those little kind of baby sham 737 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: or whatever, those little sidecars. Oh sure, I'm just like, oh, 738 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 3: that just something seems sad. 739 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: About No, yeah, that's if your mimosa should be part 740 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: of a light brunch yea where you're chatting with friends 741 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 2: in the sunshine at the counter. 742 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 3: You know, it's kind of I don't know, but God 743 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 3: bless anybody for you know, I don't. I don't want 744 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: to judge even I just did. 745 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. Meanwhile, you're gobbling down a chicken breasts and broccolike 746 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 2: like I'm the weirdo. 747 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 3: Exactly. 748 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 2: We're all weird, right, we all have something going on. 749 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: So then for lunch and dinner, what's what's your go to. 750 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 3: Lunch? I struggle with the most. I just find that's 751 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 3: the hardest meal to kind of figure out. 752 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 2: Confusing time of day for mind and stomach. 753 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I because I'm basically gluten free. I have 754 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 3: been for years and years, So like it's grabbing a 755 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 3: sandwich is hard, right, but I like to get like 756 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 3: a wrap and like when I'm shooting my movies, all 757 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 3: I ever have is a turkey rap for lunch. Yeah, 758 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 3: turkey rab with pickles and then like a you know, 759 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: the bag of Durido's or something like that. 760 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 2: That's very much like an airplane meal. 761 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is. It is that that's where that's where 762 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 3: I don't want to have any kind of you know, 763 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: extra strake, you know, like having a uniform. My uniform 764 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 3: is my turkey rap. 765 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 2: I have got to settle on a lunch meal because 766 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: I waste so much time in the middle of the 767 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: day and so much energy thinking about what I'm going 768 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 2: to eat. 769 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, because dinner is this like destination at the end 770 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: of your day, and that's fun, like we're gonna eat 771 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: and all that stuff. It's like, I gotta eat lunch. 772 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 3: What am I gonna have? 773 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,960 Speaker 2: So frustrating, But then for dinner you're just doing whatever 774 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 2: you want. 775 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 776 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you have any particular favorites. 777 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 3: Like everything, I'm a foodie, my friend, Yeah, but I 778 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 3: you know, I everything. I mean, I love to go 779 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: to an Italian restaurant, get something you love, a steakhouse, 780 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 3: get a good steak, going to a Mexican restaurant, having 781 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 3: Mexican food. Mexican food was sometimes I'll do that for lunch, 782 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 3: but then it just wipes me out for them, of course, 783 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 3: because I just eat too much. 784 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: Can I ask where you're going for Mexican Mexican food 785 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. 786 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 3: Well, my favorite place was Gardens of Tasco. 787 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 2: Oh where what was that? 788 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,400 Speaker 3: Well it was in West Hollywood on Harper and Santa 789 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 3: Monica and is there forever. I mean he was there 790 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 3: from the early seventies and they were famous for they 791 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 3: didn't have any written menus. The waiter would come and 792 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 3: recite the menu, but it had jokes in it, the 793 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 3: same jokes all the time. One of the jokes was 794 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: something about this cream chicken with the cream sauce, and 795 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 3: it tastes like the chicken was born in that sauce. 796 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 3: But they'd like drag out the born with this thing, 797 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 3: and we'd all laugh every time. We used to go 798 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 3: there twice a week, I mean for twenty years. You 799 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 3: bring people like, Okay, here comes a joke. And the 800 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: other one was, oh, the mole poblano in a very 801 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 3: spicy sauce, not hot, spicyy. They would drag that out 802 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 3: really long. We'd all laugh. 803 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: We need to get back to restaurants with novelty events. 804 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, when I was growing up, there's a place called Farls, 805 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 3: which was an ice cream parlor restaurant, and I just 806 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 3: had every birthday there, and my goal in life was 807 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 3: to be a waiter at Ferrells because it was all 808 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 3: like Banjo's all that kind of you know, that kind 809 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 3: of nineteen twenties thing. But they would all come over 810 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 3: with jokes and then like, if you order for my birthday, 811 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 3: you get to think called the Zoo, which was it 812 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 3: was a giant like punch bowl that they'd fill with 813 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 3: this ice cream every just you know, every syrup and 814 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: nuts and all that stuff, and then when you ordered it, 815 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 3: they put it on this kind of stretcher and then 816 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 3: two of them would run around. They would run around 817 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 3: the restaurant lifting it up and down, and music was 818 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 3: playing and everyone cheer, and so I just thought that 819 00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 3: was the greatest thing ever. Then then I think called 820 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 3: the pigs Trough, which was a giant Sunday and if 821 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 3: you finished it, they'd come over and announce to the 822 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 3: to the you know, the restaurant, you were officially a pig, 823 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 3: and they would. 824 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 2: Give you like like shame and a lord yeah exactly, and. 825 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 3: You're like, oh my god, I'm in the spotlights. So 826 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 3: that was good. 827 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: Did you ever know someone who finished the Trough? Ah? 828 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I say, I think I finished it. It wasn't 829 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 3: that big. I mean it was big, granted, but when 830 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: I was a teen I could rob that. 831 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing how the body kind of begins to 832 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: fail you as far as eating massive amounts of food, well. 833 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: Especially when it's tons of ice that never goes well. 834 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,439 Speaker 3: Cream and shook exactly. But just to close the book 835 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,359 Speaker 3: on Guards and Tasco, they are still open, but they 836 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 3: moved out of that restaurant. Now they are takeout only, 837 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 3: but they are a Santamonic of Boulevard and it's the 838 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 3: greatest food. 839 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 2: Okay, the food is good, but you just don't get 840 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: the jokes anymore. 841 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:47,839 Speaker 3: Jokes. 842 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 2: What an absolute drag that is to Okay, so we've 843 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 2: learned that you failed your life goal to be a 844 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 2: waiter at the ice cream. What a shame for you. 845 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: I know, that's really too bad. Do you still like 846 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,840 Speaker 2: ice cream? 847 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 3: I like ice cream. Ice cream doesn't like me, It 848 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,319 Speaker 3: doesn't really, no, but I like it. But once I 849 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 3: made ice cream and you're like, oh my god, like that. 850 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 3: Nothing puts you off ice cream more than seeing how 851 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 3: much fat goes into ice cream because it's all solid, 852 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 3: that's all it is, butter and cream whole Milken. 853 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: But I feel like one major thing Los Angeles is 854 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,320 Speaker 2: missing as an ice cream parlor, which makes perfect sense 855 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 2: for this city. I feel like people would really get 856 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 2: on board with that. 857 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, because there used to be Schwabs where everybody got 858 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 3: discovered and you know, back in the in the day 859 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 3: in old Hollywood, and you. 860 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 2: Know, I'm not familiar with Schwabs. 861 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,799 Speaker 3: Oh Schwab. That's a famous that's where, like I mean, 862 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 3: I don't think Maryland or Roll got discovered there, but 863 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: like famous old movie stars would. They'd be working as 864 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 3: soda jerks or whatever, and the thing and that was 865 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 3: the famous place where people get discovered. 866 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, And is Schwabs? Did that eventually become like 867 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: a truck like a frozen food service that was like 868 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: in trucks that would drive around. 869 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 3: It may have, I don't know if they were. 870 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 2: They were related, Okay, yeah, I remember a bizarre service 871 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 2: as a kid that their truck would drive around and 872 00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: sell you frozen meals or something. 873 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: Oh really, Oh interesting, somebody tried to sell any sushi 874 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 3: out of their trunk once. That cannot be the hottest 875 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 3: day in the valley. I was going to the Guitar 876 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: Center back way back when in instrument and Oaks and 877 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 3: I came out and the guy's like, I got one 878 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 3: more thing of a sushi in the back if you 879 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 3: want to buy it. It's like it's one hundred degrees out, sir, 880 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 3: Why would I possibly do that? 881 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 2: Did you get a look at the sushi? 882 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: No? 883 00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 3: I didn't want to see it. 884 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 2: What could have possibly been happening? 885 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 3: Though? 886 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 2: That is someone who is trying a very bad assassin entrepreneur. 887 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 3: It's a very bad assassin. 888 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: Do you play guitar? 889 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 3: Yeah? 890 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 891 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,560 Speaker 3: Guitar and drums? Yeah? Do you do it? 892 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,360 Speaker 2: Not? How long have you been playing in my whole life? 893 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 3: Oh? 894 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 2: I mean think you must be pretty good. 895 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm I'm a good drummer, Okay, drums are I've been 896 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 3: in a lot of bands as a drummer, and I 897 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 3: like that guitar. I'm a little more remedial on. 898 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 2: What sort of stuff are you playing? Are you writing 899 00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 2: your own things? Are you playing? 900 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 3: We were always cover bands. I mean I went through 901 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 3: a period where I was actually writing a lot of 902 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: music and recording and I had a recording studio. Yes, yeah, 903 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 3: back in the back in the eighties when you could 904 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 3: get like these four track things. I mean, now with 905 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,200 Speaker 3: your computer, you right, But I had this, like I 906 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,400 Speaker 3: fent all my money get this eight track recorder that 907 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 3: was built in the whole soundboard, and then there's reel 908 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 3: to reel and you can Oh my gosh. So I 909 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 3: recorded a lot of music and we use some of 910 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 3: it in actually in Freaks and Geeks. Oh you're kidding. 911 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 3: A song that I recorded, it's called space Funk. 912 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 2: Oh of course. Yeah, that's a that's. 913 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,879 Speaker 3: You that's recorded that whole thing. 914 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god. That's a wild to hear because I'm obviously, 915 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,200 Speaker 2: along with every other person, a huge fan of the show. 916 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: But my sister and I love that and the space 917 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,480 Speaker 2: the space Funk song is. 918 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 3: For the bills danced dancing. 919 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: So was that basically the style of music you were recording? 920 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 3: I recorded everything. I mean, I really like funk. You know, 921 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 3: I'm like James Brown fans, So I've always tried to 922 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,320 Speaker 3: do that wow thing. 923 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 2: And do any of the other recordings still exists? 924 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I got yeah, yeah, I got a 925 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 3: lot of songs recorded that I engineered and all that. 926 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 3: I was so into it. I loved it. I mean 927 00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 3: I kind of wish I still had a studio just 928 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: a noodle around it. 929 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: Do you ever consider releasing those things in any way? 930 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 3: I don't know. I guess I probably could. I never 931 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 3: thought of it. There's some that are kind of fun. 932 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 3: There's something that I would never let him. 933 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 2: Here, right of course, But no, I was kinda it 934 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: was fun. 935 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 3: I mean, I guess space Funk's my most famous famous 936 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 3: one to get out in the world. 937 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: Did you get paid for space Funk to put it 938 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 2: in the show? 939 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 3: No, I give it for free. Good for you. Yeah, 940 00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 3: I think BMI or one of them, and they had 941 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:40,000 Speaker 3: to pay me, like, you know. 942 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 2: Right, just like legally they had no choice. 943 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still not available anymore. Wow. Yeah, I know. 944 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 3: I wish you get it released on Spotify. 945 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 2: I should be on Spotify or something. Yeah, I mean 946 00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,760 Speaker 2: Freaks and Gigs has kind of a history of music 947 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 2: licensing issues. 948 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. That's what killed us. That's the only song 949 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 3: that would have gone forward if we gotten the rights. 950 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 2: Vere you should have replaced every other song in it 951 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 2: with space That would be a very interesting. 952 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 3: Show if we ever do a sequel there it is. 953 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,440 Speaker 2: Was there ever talk of doing more Freaks and Geeks? 954 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there was always talking, but I wasn't. I mean, 955 00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 3: right when we got canceled, we were hoping we were 956 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 3: going to get picked up an MTV did step up 957 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 3: and wanted to do it, but they couldn't give us 958 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,440 Speaker 3: the budget. What Yeah, I mean we were always you know, 959 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,360 Speaker 3: the show was it was expensive. 960 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 2: Actually yeah, the music alone, right, it's a period piece. 961 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 3: Well, that's why we had so much trouble because we 962 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,479 Speaker 3: only licensed the music for to be able to air 963 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 3: on network TV. Right, So then when they want to 964 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: put on DVD, they had they you know, they had 965 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 3: to rework all the contracts and that's why nobody wanted 966 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 3: to do it. And we had music that we had 967 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 3: recorded that Mike Andrews, our composer, had done for International, 968 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,680 Speaker 3: and it was so I don't know, not clear headed 969 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 3: back there's like, oh International cares. It's like, so they 970 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 3: were out in the world without the songs in it. 971 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,360 Speaker 3: It's like and it's long. I mean, that's there's like 972 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 3: a character in the movie. 973 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a different show. 974 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, but then when they want to put those out, 975 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 3: it's like, no, I can't. I'd rather not have the 976 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 3: show out. 977 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,680 Speaker 2: There right too, Right, Yeah, that's that feels I guess 978 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 2: incredibly short sighted on the network's part to be like, 979 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,879 Speaker 2: we'll just do this limited song deal. 980 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 3: Yeah. They never know. They never think, you know your 981 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 3: show is going to be I mean, they figure they'll 982 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 3: deal with it down the line, because you know, that 983 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 3: was when you have to go into syndication, so you 984 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 3: need to leave one hundred episodes, so that's you know, 985 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 3: they kick the can down the road. 986 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 2: I'm sure it was terrible at the time that it 987 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 2: got canceled as quickly as it did, But is there 988 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 2: some part of you that's like, I'm happy that it 989 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: didn't go for fifty seasons and eventually get ruined. 990 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Oh no, very much so I kind of look, 991 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 3: that's why when people go like, oh, you know, you 992 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 3: do a you know, a reunion show, and like, you 993 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 3: know what all we can do is fuck it. 994 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, even the best version won't be like 995 00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 2: what some people want it. 996 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the only good thing is, like my 997 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: problem with the most reunion shows is it's just a 998 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 3: chance to watch and go like, ooh, look how old 999 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 3: everybody is. You know, but our show was so young 1000 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 3: that its like and then they're all famous. 1001 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 2: Right, they all look great still yeah, but. 1002 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,720 Speaker 3: It's just I don't know if I had some brilliant idea. Sure, 1003 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 3: but I'm very much as a James Brown fan. You say, hit, 1004 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,560 Speaker 3: hit it, and quit it. That's what I am very 1005 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:10,440 Speaker 3: much a fan of. 1006 00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 2: I think. Yeah, I feel like people are learning that 1007 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 2: lesson more and more to just. 1008 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 3: Like leave it be. Yeah, you got away with it. 1009 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 2: Yes, don't toy with it anymore. People will be furious. Well, 1010 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,240 Speaker 2: I think it's time to play a game. Oh please, 1011 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 2: We're going to play a game called Gift or a Curse. Okay, 1012 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you. 1013 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 3: Okay, let's go with seven. 1014 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 2: Okay. Well, there's a little bird chirping. I hope the 1015 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 2: listeners can hear that. 1016 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 3: Beautiful bird in the background. Very zen back. Oh good. 1017 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 2: I hope that this is a calming thing for everybody. Okay, 1018 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,680 Speaker 2: I have to do some light calculating. Okay, so while 1019 00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: I'm doing this, you can recommend something, promote something, talk 1020 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 2: to the listener in any way you wish. 1021 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,879 Speaker 3: Oh, very good. Well, if you go to Netflix right now, 1022 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: my movie The School for Good and Evil is playing 1023 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 3: right now. We came out about a month a month 1024 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 3: ago or a little maybe a month and a half 1025 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 3: ago and starts char Least the Throne and Carrie Washington, 1026 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 3: Laurence Fishburne, Michelle Yo and a cast of fabulous young people. 1027 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 3: So that's streaming right now on Netflix. And my book, 1028 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 3: Cocktail Time, The Ultimate Guide to Grown Up Fun is 1029 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 3: available now in bookstores everywhere on Amazon. It's the perfect 1030 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 3: Christmas gift gift everybody will this be on before Christmas. 1031 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 2: After Christmas, but there's always they're nice thing about Christmas. 1032 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,640 Speaker 2: There's always another there. 1033 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 3: You go for the following, but don't wait that long 1034 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 3: or buy it now and then put it in the course. 1035 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 2: Right so the next Christmas and you're not freaking out 1036 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 2: when you go the date rolls exactly. 1037 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 3: I hope everybody had a great Christmas. 1038 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: I do too. I hope that Christmas wasn't too terrible. Okay, 1039 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 2: gift to a curse an excellent job. There. Sometimes people 1040 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 2: totally dropped the ball and the information is scattered. I mean, 1041 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 2: you did mention a Christmas gift twitch true, but I 1042 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 2: would give that a solid be plus. 1043 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 3: I'm always selling. 1044 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 2: This is how we play gift or curse. I'm going 1045 00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 2: to name three things you're gonna tell me if there 1046 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 2: are a gift curse and why, and then I'll tell 1047 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: you if you're correct or not, because there are objectively 1048 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 2: correct answers. 1049 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 3: Now, where did my number come into play? 1050 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 2: I had to. I have this a truly insane looking 1051 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,439 Speaker 2: Google doc that I well, now the listener. Listeners are 1052 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,879 Speaker 2: just helping out. They send in suggestions, I drop them in, 1053 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 2: and then I do I use the number to randomly 1054 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,440 Speaker 2: pick to make sure it's a fair game. 1055 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I'm fine with that. 1056 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 2: Okay. This first one is from a listener named Liz, 1057 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 2: and she suggested gift her a curse real estate videos 1058 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 2: that feel like movie trailers. 1059 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 3: And this would be gifted. 1060 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 2: No, this is just like your oh your thought. Do 1061 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:38,920 Speaker 2: you think it's a gift or do you think it's 1062 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: a cri humanity? Yes, I think that's a curse. 1063 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,960 Speaker 3: I don't like anything that fakes out, kind of like 1064 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 3: like just watching TV the other day, watching MSNBC, and 1065 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 3: like some ad came out that tried to look like 1066 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 3: the newscasts. Yeah, and he's like, oh, come on, really, 1067 00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 3: like we're not falling for it, you know, but clearly 1068 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 3: they think your might. 1069 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 2: So no, okay, you think that's a curse. 1070 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:05,959 Speaker 3: I think it's a curse. 1071 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,920 Speaker 2: Oh Paul, I hate to hear it. Oh no, it's 1072 00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 2: a gift. 1073 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 3: It is. 1074 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 2: I love it. The world of real estate is fascinating 1075 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: to meals. I feel like there's an arms race with 1076 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 2: reeltors to be as wild as possible and to just 1077 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: create things that are like this has nothing to do 1078 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,799 Speaker 2: with homes, and they're all just kind of making very 1079 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,080 Speaker 2: interesting choices that we get to kind of enjoy and 1080 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 2: just live in. 1081 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:38,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I like realtors swag. I as everything it's 1082 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,800 Speaker 3: just got their picture on it. So it's a notepad, 1083 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,600 Speaker 3: it's a pen, it's a coffee cup, and it does 1084 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 3: that one picture of that person. And like there's been 1085 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 3: some realtters in our neighborhood, I mean for years, and 1086 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 3: this is the same picture. 1087 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,080 Speaker 2: I love a real litor headshot. Everything about it is 1088 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:55,080 Speaker 2: always fun to look at. 1089 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 3: It looks like they're done when when I don't know 1090 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 3: if they had this when you were growing up, but 1091 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: we always didn't go to like and even you have 1092 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 3: these portrait and you get your portrait taken, Oh sure 1093 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 3: had that look of like a high school photo, you know, 1094 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: And so that's what I always feel those there must 1095 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,080 Speaker 3: be a real litor like photography center somewhere. 1096 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 2: I would maybe I should open one. I'd love to 1097 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,280 Speaker 2: take photos of ree litters for a living. 1098 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 3: Come on, that would be great. 1099 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,280 Speaker 2: I mean, speaking of seers and things going on in series, 1100 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 2: let me ask you this. The seers near me growing 1101 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 2: up had a dentist in it. Does this sound remotely 1102 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 2: familiar to you? 1103 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 3: It doesn't sound familiar, but but it makes perfect sense 1104 00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 3: because seers used to kind of have everything. Oh that 1105 00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 3: was where you would go for like everything. I mean, 1106 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,600 Speaker 3: the day of that kind of department store is gone right, 1107 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 3: thanks pretty much. 1108 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 2: Department stores are very much on their way out of business. 1109 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 3: Yeah. Malls, my god, you're just scouting an abandoned mall 1110 00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 3: and in Atlanta. Oh that's weird. You know, it's like 1111 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 3: the apocalypse. 1112 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 2: I need to write something with a mall, an abandoned 1113 00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,800 Speaker 2: mall that just will allow me to go on scouts 1114 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,680 Speaker 2: to look through these better do it haunting experience. 1115 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,840 Speaker 3: It really is. It's really and it's kind of sad 1116 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 3: again as an older man. You know, when I was 1117 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 3: growing up, malls were everything. Of course, the center of 1118 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 3: the universe was the mall, and now it's it is 1119 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,480 Speaker 3: a nice thing to still go back to. Yeah, but 1120 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 3: the mall walkers, where do they walk? 1121 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,759 Speaker 2: I love to be in an empty mall. Okay, well, 1122 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 2: you got the first one wrong and it's horrifying to watch, 1123 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,880 Speaker 2: I know, so, but you have two more chances to 1124 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: kind of redeem yourself. Okay. This next one is from 1125 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 2: a listener named Pete after a curse gummy vitamins. 1126 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 3: Oh there's a gift. I would dare say, why because 1127 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 3: I actually take one for for cholesterol. Oh I don't 1128 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 3: even I don't even know what it is, but I 1129 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 3: just my friend gave it. Okay, sure, Yeah, I'm taking 1130 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 3: vitamins as as a bummer, like swallowing pills as a drag. 1131 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,319 Speaker 3: And there's there's this one potassium pill I just got 1132 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 3: that I like to take, and it's those chalky ones. 1133 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,520 Speaker 3: Every time the first attempt, it gets stuck in my 1134 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 3: throat and I almost like throw up, and then it 1135 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 3: gets trapped on the way down. That's the worst. When 1136 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 3: you get like a vitamin stuck in that pain It 1137 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 3: won't go away. 1138 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,600 Speaker 2: What is that pain? It feels like it's in your ribs, 1139 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,760 Speaker 2: you know exactly. 1140 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 3: It's drinking and swallowing and get down, get down, and 1141 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 3: try to eat something to k not get down. 1142 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,560 Speaker 2: The chalky ones are the there's no excuse at this point. 1143 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 3: I know, yeah, I know, we're living in a civilized world. 1144 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there are so many different textures of vitamin 1145 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:20,440 Speaker 2: or it can be. 1146 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,960 Speaker 3: They can put some something slick on it to get 1147 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 3: down your gullet. 1148 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 2: Not resemble a neck a wafer in any way, right, exactly. Okay, 1149 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 2: so you're saying gift. 1150 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 3: I am saying gift. I have a feeling I'm about 1151 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:31,919 Speaker 3: to lose. 1152 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm right there with you. I love look, I 1153 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:38,200 Speaker 2: love it. I mean my absolute favorite vitamin. I haven't 1154 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 2: had one since I was a child, but sun Kissed 1155 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 2: made a type of vitamin that were delicious. 1156 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 3: Oh, like a vitamin C. Yeah. 1157 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,320 Speaker 2: They were like a chewable that we hadn't gotten to 1158 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 2: the gummies at that point. I like Flintstone's chew right, 1159 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,480 Speaker 2: but I will say the Flintstones ones were disgusting. They 1160 00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 2: had a real weird aftertaste. This was the perfect vitamin. 1161 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 2: But I like a chewy vitamin. 1162 00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:57,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1163 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 2: I'm also going to recommend and I haven't talked about 1164 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 2: this in a long time on this podcast. Brazil nuts. 1165 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 2: You should be taking two brazil nuts a day. My 1166 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,080 Speaker 2: cholesterol was at the high end of normal, right, my 1167 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,759 Speaker 2: therapist recommended. This was the only piece of advice that 1168 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,359 Speaker 2: therapist gave me that I took into my life. Take 1169 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 2: two brazil nuts a day. My cholesterol lowered. It's amazing. Really, 1170 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: I can't recommend it enough. 1171 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm rushing out to get brazil brazil nuts. 1172 00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:26,360 Speaker 2: Everyone hates them. They are sort of like the outcast 1173 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 2: of the nut mix. They are, But I'm telling people 1174 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,280 Speaker 2: they're not that bad, and it's kind of a hearty 1175 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 2: snack that does something for you. 1176 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 3: I think it was great. Yeah, maybe I can get 1177 00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 3: off my statins. 1178 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,239 Speaker 2: Then yes, please. Okay, well you've gotten one right so far. 1179 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 2: That's not too bad. 1180 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 3: It's the tie breaker. 1181 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 2: Okay. And now Mike has suggested gift to a curse 1182 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,960 Speaker 2: people who go jogging with their dogs. 1183 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 3: Oh, I'm going to say it's a curse. And why 1184 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 3: because I don't think the dog has anything, you know, 1185 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 3: and we all know dogs love to run. But at 1186 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 3: the same time, I don't know if the dog was 1187 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 3: really up for the run that you wanted to go on, 1188 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,080 Speaker 3: you know. And also also it's just I you know, 1189 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 3: I could never jog with my dog because he just 1190 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:13,080 Speaker 3: wants to stop every five minutes and smell everything and 1191 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 3: go to the bathroom everywhere, So, you know, so then 1192 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 3: you're denying them that pleasure. They can run with you. So, 1193 00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 3: unless it's a super sporty dog. 1194 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,959 Speaker 2: Right right, a Scottie dog is not a running dog. 1195 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,280 Speaker 2: They're kind of a neighborhood wanderer. 1196 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,520 Speaker 3: They have their occasional bouts of room springer where they 1197 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 3: run around and then they'll just flop down. 1198 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 2: You got it. Yes, I think this is a curse 1199 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 2: in so many ways. Leave the dog out of it. 1200 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,239 Speaker 2: It's unfair. It's it's like, go do your jogging on 1201 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,000 Speaker 2: your own. I mean this also falls into the category 1202 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,720 Speaker 2: of people jogging with a stroller running with the stroller, 1203 00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 2: which feels like such a show off move. I don't 1204 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 2: need to just if you have to run publicly, right, 1205 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 2: do it on your own. I don't want to know 1206 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 2: anything about what else is happening in your home. Totally, 1207 00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 2: don't push a stroller, don't drag your dog along with you. 1208 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 2: It's one hundred percent curse. 1209 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 3: I was wondering how babies feel about being because they 1210 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 3: don't know that they're being pushed. They don't see what's 1211 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 3: happening behind them, so they're just in this out of 1212 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:17,880 Speaker 3: control thing that's flying down the street. Yeah, this is 1213 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:19,600 Speaker 3: a love of therapy. I think could go back to 1214 00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,040 Speaker 3: my earliest memory was going very fast, no one was. 1215 00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,279 Speaker 2: There, absolutely no context for the situation. Yeah, we've got 1216 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 2: to think about those babies and toddlers who are just terrified. 1217 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 2: They're hanging on for their lives. You got two out 1218 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:34,160 Speaker 2: of three. 1219 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:35,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I win. 1220 00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,480 Speaker 2: You certainly don't win, Paul, but you don't lose. And 1221 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: that's amazing, you know. 1222 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,560 Speaker 3: All I ask is. 1223 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:49,080 Speaker 2: Very impressive. Congratulations. This is the final segment of the podcast. 1224 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 2: It's called I said no emails. People write into I 1225 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 2: Said no gifts at gmail dot com. My listeners are 1226 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: desperate people. Their lives are horrible, and they are seeking 1227 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,680 Speaker 2: help from me and now from you. Will you help me? 1228 00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 3: I would love to help. 1229 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 2: All right, let me get into the dock here and 1230 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,320 Speaker 2: get a question happening. Okay, this says deer Bridger and guest. Hello, 1231 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,960 Speaker 2: I hope this finds you well. Excuse me for being 1232 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 2: so forward, but I must cut to the point immediately. 1233 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:18,920 Speaker 2: My husband's thirty fourth birthday is coming up, and I 1234 00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 2: need some advice on what to get him. He is 1235 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 2: a reformed chef who now works on trees. He likes 1236 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:29,160 Speaker 2: PC games, garage, rock, and knives. Here's the thing. He 1237 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 2: has a talent for giving me gifts that are really 1238 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,480 Speaker 2: for him, such as screwdrivers and a Nintendo switch. Oh no, 1239 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:39,400 Speaker 2: that's a bad okay. I work in surgery and like cats, 1240 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: girl power, blood and guts parentheses see occupation. I'd like 1241 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 2: to return the favor this year, which begs the question, 1242 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 2: what can I get him that's really for me? Deepest 1243 00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,200 Speaker 2: gratitude for your assistance with this quandary regards Susan in 1244 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,920 Speaker 2: Kansas who gives a screwdriver as a gift in anything, 1245 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 2: to say that just badross hor Just go buy yourself 1246 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:03,759 Speaker 2: a screwdriver. 1247 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 3: It's a really nice grew. 1248 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 2: The world's most beautiful jewel encrusted screwdriver. That's a This 1249 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 2: husband is out. 1250 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,440 Speaker 3: Of control, I would dare say. 1251 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,560 Speaker 2: A reform chef who now vaguely works on trees, I 1252 00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 2: don't even know what that. 1253 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,960 Speaker 3: Means, and who loves knives. It's getting weirder. Get out 1254 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,520 Speaker 3: of the what's her name out of there. 1255 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 2: Absolutely what could Susan get for herself? Essentially that her 1256 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:32,840 Speaker 2: husband will unwrap for. 1257 00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 3: Her a restraining order? 1258 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 2: Goodbye, David. 1259 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:43,200 Speaker 3: I mean, well, she likes cats and she. 1260 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 2: She loves blood and guts, girl power. That's such a 1261 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 2: vague thing. What are we talking about that? Yeah, general 1262 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:49,919 Speaker 2: of a thing. 1263 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 3: Well, is there like a home cat surgery. 1264 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,680 Speaker 2: Kit, like a cat dissecting kid? 1265 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, that's not I don't exactly No, like like 1266 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,960 Speaker 3: you know, for their nuts off you know. 1267 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 2: Oh interesting, Yeah, like a neutering or spain. 1268 00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. 1269 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,919 Speaker 2: That is not a bad idea. He unwraps full surgery kit. 1270 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,400 Speaker 2: There's the anesthetic. There's a little cat table that you 1271 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,320 Speaker 2: put it to sleep. No, you don't put it to sleep. 1272 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 3: I keep What do you have against cats? 1273 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: I have nothing against cause I adore cat. 1274 00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:24,560 Speaker 3: I like jogging with my cat. 1275 00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:29,880 Speaker 2: I would absolutely more people should be running with cats. Okay, 1276 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,080 Speaker 2: I think that's actually the perfect gift, a cat spayre 1277 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 2: neuter at home kit. 1278 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,799 Speaker 3: Now, the problem is he likes knives, so oh, I 1279 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 3: wonder there's side. But do you use a knife or 1280 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 3: is it more like a needle or something a laser? Oh? 1281 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, put you laser. A cat out of commission, out 1282 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:47,800 Speaker 2: of procreation. 1283 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:49,839 Speaker 3: I don't know. We have to look in them. 1284 00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,640 Speaker 2: Is there some sort of pill that you can give 1285 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 2: the cat that? 1286 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:52,839 Speaker 1: Uh? 1287 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean yeah, I just I'm doing us 1288 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,439 Speaker 2: not to do a call exactly. He's the callback king, 1289 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,640 Speaker 2: I am. He's built his reputation on it. No, I 1290 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 2: think that that's not aboud idea. I mean, we don't 1291 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 2: know if there's actually a cat in a picture, why 1292 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 2: not bring home a cat? 1293 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 3: Oh that's true? Oh yeah, well maybe. 1294 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 2: And maybe like a bag of raw meat. She loves 1295 00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:18,279 Speaker 2: blood and guts. You're kind of strewing that about the 1296 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:18,919 Speaker 2: house for the cat. 1297 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:21,760 Speaker 3: Actually get a cat and then get a whole cage 1298 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,400 Speaker 3: of mice and let him loose, and then the cattle, 1299 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 3: you know, do its thing and tear him apart, and 1300 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 3: then she gets everything she wants. 1301 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,759 Speaker 2: She brings the cat home. He's wondering what's going on. 1302 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:33,840 Speaker 2: He has this beautifully wrapped gift. He opens it. Suddenly 1303 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 2: mice swarming everywhere. Everything makes sense. 1304 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 3: Cat's tearing them apart. There's blood and guts everywhere. It's 1305 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,080 Speaker 3: like like a horror show. And he's out working on 1306 00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,200 Speaker 3: a tree. 1307 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,319 Speaker 2: Susan's completely satisfied and the birthday is perfect for everybody. Paul, 1308 00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: we answered it in an ideal way. 1309 00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,000 Speaker 3: I think we did. I think and honestly, since there 1310 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 3: isn't a home, you know, neutering and spaining cat, I think, 1311 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 3: just get a cat. Get a cat and a bunch 1312 00:55:58,680 --> 00:55:59,000 Speaker 3: of mice. 1313 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,239 Speaker 2: I think that I Susan can't complain about this. No, 1314 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,120 Speaker 2: she has to be happy with our antswer. Unfortunately she 1315 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 2: is not on the podcast, so she can't complain. I'll 1316 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:13,799 Speaker 2: block her email if she does try to complain. Yes, 1317 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: that's perfect. 1318 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,640 Speaker 3: Good. Here we are wed. 1319 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 2: I've got this lemon, I have my citrus squeezer. I 1320 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 2: have more lemons happening up here in the yard. It's perfect. 1321 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:24,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a perfect night. 1322 00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:27,000 Speaker 2: Thank you for this my pleasure. I've had such a 1323 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 2: wonderful time with you. 1324 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,120 Speaker 3: This was great. I had a great time listener. 1325 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 2: This is the end of the podcast. God knows what 1326 00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 2: you're going to do next. I mean, I would suggest 1327 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,000 Speaker 2: putting on some sort of loud music. I think you 1328 00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 2: need that emotional release. You've been listening to a podcast. 1329 00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,879 Speaker 2: Your feelings have been just piling up. I'm sure you're 1330 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 2: an anxious mess. Put on something loud and enjoy that 1331 00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,520 Speaker 2: for a minute. I recommend it completely. 1332 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,479 Speaker 3: Dance it out. 1333 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 2: Dance it out, whether you're in the car, or in 1334 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,080 Speaker 2: your workplace or in the kitchen washing the dishes. 1335 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,640 Speaker 3: Dance like no one's watching. 1336 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,279 Speaker 2: Or like someone's watching. Sure, like, uh, yeah, maybe you 1337 00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,680 Speaker 2: want to impress somebody. 1338 00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,799 Speaker 3: Like you're on stage at the Met. Yes, really, you. 1339 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,080 Speaker 2: Should start dancing like we're on stage at the Met. 1340 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 2: We need more standards. 1341 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,919 Speaker 3: Yeah you're here. Let's hide your light under a bush. 1342 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 2: Thank you. Uh, time to go, get off. The podcast 1343 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 2: I love you, goodbye, I said, No Gifts is an 1344 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,600 Speaker 2: exactly right production. It's produced by our dear friend Annalise Nilson, 1345 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,600 Speaker 2: and it's beautifully mixed by Leona Squillatchi. And we couldn't 1346 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,439 Speaker 2: do it without our guest booker Patrick Kottner. The theme song, 1347 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,680 Speaker 2: of course, could only come from miracle worker Amy Man. 1348 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,200 Speaker 2: You must follow the show on Instagram. At I said 1349 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,600 Speaker 2: No Gifts, I don't want to hear any excuses. That's 1350 00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:53,680 Speaker 2: where you get to see pictures of all these gorgeous 1351 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 2: gifts I'm getting. And don't you want to see pictures 1352 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 2: of the gifts? 1353 00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 1: Thought I made myself perfectly clear. But you're I guess 1354 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:13,440 Speaker 1: to my home. You gotta come to me empty, And 1355 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: I said, no, guess your own presences presents enough. I 1356 00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:25,919 Speaker 1: already had too much stuff, So how do you dare 1357 00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:27,680 Speaker 1: to surbey me?