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Speaker 1: Native Lampod is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media and Welcome home, y'all. This is

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Speaker 1: episode one hundred and twenty three of Native Lampod where

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Speaker 1: we give you our breakdown of all things politics and culture.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, Bikari Sellers, joined by my amazing

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Speaker 1: co host at times Andrew Gillam and Angela r.

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Speaker 2: Deserved, Deserved, and.

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Speaker 1: I am so excited today because we had the two

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Speaker 1: time Webby Award winning independent journalists, race and politics commentator,

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Speaker 1: the extraordinary Garrison Hayes. How you doing, brother, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. Hey, I'm great.

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Speaker 3: This is a.

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Speaker 2: Welcome home for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm used to seeing your your educational clips, so

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that you're able to come on and join

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Speaker 1: us today. This is gonna be a fun show with

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Speaker 1: you here.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited, man, Thank you all.

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Speaker 5: You gotta tell the people real quick, though.

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Speaker 6: I'm curious. I apologize hosts, chief hosts, but the Garrison

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Speaker 6: tell people where they can find you. What What do

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Speaker 6: you most like?

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Speaker 5: What do you communicate the folks?

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that's a good question.

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Speaker 2: So I'm on.

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Speaker 7: I'm on Instagram, I'm on TikTok. That's where I do

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Speaker 7: like a short form thing. But what I really want

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Speaker 7: you to go do is check me out on YouTube.

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Speaker 7: That's where I'm doing a lot more long form work

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Speaker 7: and videos talking about things in a little bit more depth.

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Speaker 7: Like the clips are great, the shorts are great. You know,

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Speaker 7: I'm very proud of my work, but sometimes I have

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Speaker 7: more to say, and he too kind of gives me

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Speaker 7: the ability to do that.

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Speaker 3: So go check.

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Speaker 5: Well, we'll give you a little bit of time today.

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Speaker 5: I think between a little bit.

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Speaker 8: You know, the other thing, just for context for the

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Speaker 8: viewers and for the folks who are listening and are

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Speaker 8: not connecting his face with the name. Garrison has also

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Speaker 8: done some phenomenal work at Mother Jones where folks saw him,

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Speaker 8: you know, dealing with Trump supporters who look like us

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Speaker 8: and others, also talking about race and justice.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: He's just been phenomenal.

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Speaker 8: So Garrison, we are definitely appreciating your new road into

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Speaker 8: independent journalism and look forward to seeing you on podcast

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Speaker 8: side real soon.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: So I'm still to be clear, you know, I'm still

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Speaker 7: a correspondent in the Mother Jones newsroom, but I love

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Speaker 7: kind of the ability to kind of build alongside that.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, you may have seen me. I spent a

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Speaker 7: week with black Republicans. In fact, someone just posted a

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Speaker 7: week from that. Yesterday. I went to the R and

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Speaker 7: C and spent the week. We won't we won't dwell

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Speaker 7: too long. Okay, we won't do all too long. It

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Speaker 7: was it was crazy, It was an interesting experience. But

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Speaker 7: you can watch that video. It's on it's on YouTube

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Speaker 7: as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna watch that one.

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Speaker 2: You know, because is technically a Republican baseball.

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Speaker 6: Hear soon if we could just continue, Yeah, I'm just

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Speaker 6: trying to get up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just trying to get on through the show.

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Speaker 1: Now we have a we have a great, great segment

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Speaker 1: for your situation, for your situational awareness. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: it's a whole mouthful of words heited ANGELI put together

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Speaker 1: for us for your situational awareness, where we try to

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Speaker 1: come a lot of topics pretty quickly and gets them.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the things we have to do

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Speaker 1: is celebrate black excellence. And so I want to toss

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Speaker 1: to Michael Bakari Jordan.

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Speaker 8: Gosh, what Jesus help us does he have to do this?

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Speaker 2: Every time.

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Speaker 5: Every time.

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Speaker 1: I mean Michael Bacari Jordan joining an illustrious crew and

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Speaker 1: winning winning an Academy award, the support he received from

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Speaker 1: Tianna Taylor. Let's row some clips and talk about Bakari

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Speaker 1: and others on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Oh, and the oscar goes to Michael Bajordan.

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Speaker 1: God is good all the time.

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Speaker 2: It's good all the time.

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Speaker 1: God is good.

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Speaker 3: It's good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mama, what's up?

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Speaker 3: Y'all?

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Speaker 9: Know how I feel about my mother? And my father's here,

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Speaker 9: your pops, where you at?

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Speaker 3: My dad?

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Speaker 9: My dad came in from Ghana Flord for Ganna to

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Speaker 9: be here.

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Speaker 2: My brother, my sister's here.

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Speaker 9: Family.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank I want to think.

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Speaker 9: I want to thank Warner Brothers. I want to thank

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Speaker 9: Mike and Pam for believing in this, this dream, this

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Speaker 9: vision of Ryan Cooglan culture embttering on original ideas and

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Speaker 9: original artistry. And You're an amazing, amazing person. I'm so

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Speaker 9: honored to call you a collaborator and a friend. And

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Speaker 9: uh you gave me the opportunity in space for me

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Speaker 9: to be seen. And I love you too, bro, leave

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Speaker 9: you to death. I would like to thank who by

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Speaker 9: incredible cast so much forgiveness.

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Speaker 2: Not we get it.

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Speaker 6: Not abody didn't take too much of your time because.

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Speaker 1: I wanted you. I wanted to share the time with you.

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Speaker 8: And I want to thank me for Michael having me

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Speaker 8: in his middle name.

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Speaker 1: We do have we do have a picture that I

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Speaker 1: want Nick to put up to show the illustrious company

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Speaker 1: that that Michael Bakari Jordan has joined. And I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to look at these individuals that he's joined at

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Speaker 1: the Sydney par Denzel Washington, Jamie Fox, far As Widaker

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Speaker 1: That counts six. But I mean I can be corrected

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Speaker 1: in the comment.

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Speaker 6: No no, no, no, no no, yeah.

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Speaker 1: But I mean that's that's just an I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: black excellence. And it also shows you that we've made

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Speaker 1: some amazing movies and there's still some great artists that

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Speaker 1: aren't out there. But what do you all think about

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Speaker 1: that Academy Award winning evening and Tianna clapping?

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Speaker 6: But also it was a night of joy, man, it

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Speaker 6: was a night of joy. And she yeah, unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 6: there are always fun snatchers out there, and she came

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Speaker 6: critical of her quote doing too much or off or ghetto,

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Speaker 6: or any other number of comments that she beautifully and

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Speaker 6: summarily dismissed. Let's hear, let's hear what all the quote

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Speaker 6: controversy is all about, and the.

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Speaker 2: Oscar goes to.

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Speaker 7: Amy Madigan.

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Speaker 10: If you weren't looking at her square on screen, you might

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Speaker 10: have missed Jana Taylor leaping to her feet a dreaming

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Speaker 10: Madigan's name was announced his winner a Best Sporting Actress

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Speaker 10: have thought, like, does China think she won or she's

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Speaker 10: read to storm the stage, But no, she was just

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Speaker 10: showing the joy for another performer winning. I think China

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Speaker 11: You know, one thing I'm gonna do is have a

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Speaker 11: good time, and that's what I did. You know, what

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Speaker 11: I'm saying is like these are moments that we should cherish.

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Speaker 11: You know, we all worked extremely hard and we all

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Speaker 11: but just wanting to just celebrate and chair especially for

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Speaker 10: And the feeling was basically mutual. At the Going Globes

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Speaker 6: So as you can see, she showed similar expression and

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Speaker 6: when Amy Madigan. It showed such expressed excitement for for Tiana.

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Speaker 6: But you know, I've watched her this award season, and

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Speaker 6: she's in.

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Speaker 5: If you if you.

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Speaker 6: Hang along long enough on her videos and you hear

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Speaker 6: her interact and talk with people, you know her, her

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Speaker 6: staff have to like move her off because she'd stay

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Speaker 6: there asking questions, just really genuinely engaged. But I wanted

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Speaker 6: to quickly read just a moment, very small.

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Speaker 5: For a second.

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Speaker 6: The statement is on your because on the screen if

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Speaker 6: Tiana responded to the haters, the people who said that

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Speaker 6: she was doing too much, had something was going on,

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Speaker 6: and she said.

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Speaker 5: Word, okay.

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Speaker 6: The world holds so much misery that miserable hearts forget

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Speaker 6: the face of happiness. They grow comfortable being sore losers.

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Speaker 6: So when they see real sportsmanship it unsettles them, like

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Speaker 6: holy water touching a demon, because clapping for someone else's

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Speaker 6: victory requires something many people never learned, how to win

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Speaker 6: with grace, pure joy, and how to lose with grace,

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Speaker 6: to hear what y'all think, but I just think she

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Speaker 6: You know, in our politics, even in our sports, in

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Speaker 5: If you're winning, that I'm losing.

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Speaker 6: If you do better, then I must be doing worse,

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Speaker 6: And if you're happy, it must mean I'm miserable. In

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Speaker 6: the reverse, She I think captures what I hope I

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Speaker 6: it's beautiful, and quite frankly, it absolutely bc alternatives. When

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Speaker 6: But when you let a little bit of joy in,

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Speaker 6: your soul is lifted, you know, hirer and you start

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Speaker 6: to see the you know, the good and things and

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Speaker 5: What do y'all say?

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Speaker 2: You know, this misery loves company thing is real.

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Speaker 8: I think that people always try to find a reason

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Speaker 8: to criticize someone, especially a black person, particularly a black woman.

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Speaker 8: And I think that there are these respectability politics, but

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Speaker 8: like the do you know there's white men that go

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Speaker 8: into these awards shows looking like they just woke up

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Speaker 8: out the car. You know, they don't have to be polished,

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Speaker 2: And she, I think, wasn't just polished.

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Speaker 8: She was you know, acting with dignity and respect for

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Speaker 8: people who she probably never thought she would be in

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Speaker 8: the same category with. And she's proven everybody wrong up

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Speaker 8: against every single odd So shout out to Tiana Taylor,

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Speaker 2: Jordan, the woman who won in her category.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, I'm sorry forgive me, but yeah, I

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Speaker 7: And I think it's important to use the word class

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Speaker 7: This is one of the highest honors in all of Hollywood,

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm so happy that we're talking about grace and

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Speaker 1: y'all have stored up. And Angela. One of your good,

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Speaker 8: Aining I feel like you just tossed to it. So

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Speaker 12: with John saying, John saying, you didn't retreat into a

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Speaker 5: So is that was that conscious?

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Speaker 13: It's certainly made what I already wanted to do, even

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Speaker 5: Because you like pushing that boundary, that line. I think

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Speaker 13: I love the sound among us, I love the sound

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Speaker 3: The politics of today.

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Speaker 13: That's safer landing spot that a lot of my white

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Speaker 13: I'm not going to pretend like what you're talking about.

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Speaker 8: You know what, The response to this has been interesting.

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Speaker 8: Disingenuine most definitely not Brian mcwhite irs one dressed like

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Speaker 2: Proud Boys to men. I mean, they just keep going,

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Speaker 8: But I do think they're two things, and I think

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Speaker 8: Jack Harlow in this clip is this reverence for black music.

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Speaker 8: And I'll say that historically, whether we you know, talk

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Speaker 2: I think that there are exceptions.

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Speaker 8: To the rule, like Paul Wall and Eminem who show

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Speaker 8: Jack Harlow is doing. I heard there's more context for

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 7: I watched the interview Angela, and you know, I kind

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Speaker 7: a Jack Harlowe hater his music. You know, I'm fairly

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Speaker 7: I think there's a reason why people are giving him

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Speaker 7: I think the conversation about menstrelsy is actually very like

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Speaker 7: it's not terrible, it's not a terrible album. It's not

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Speaker 7: the last thing I'll say, Angela is that I wish

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Speaker 7: he'd answered Joe's question because I think if you're going

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Speaker 6: Can I just as shaw real quick whether or not

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Speaker 6: you think there was merit to country artists, musicians, fans

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Speaker 6: of country music contemporary, but probably would be a percursor

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Speaker 6: I put on it because forgiving the history of actual

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Speaker 6: A lot of white folks criticized Beyonce for I mean,

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Speaker 6: there's no version of white face. But basically like, so

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Speaker 6: you get to flow between all of these spaces. You

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Speaker 6: have yours, you've dominated da da da da da, and

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Speaker 6: now you were in our space. Now I can argue

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Speaker 6: two sides of this. I understood what the a Requiem

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Speaker 2: It's a little different.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, I would disagree because I just think

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Speaker 6: I agree with you, but if we could name them

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's why I said contemporary would be.

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Speaker 8: That's how they see it, right, I guess, I guess,

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Speaker 8: you know, shout out to Kim Burns, who was a

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Speaker 8: like historical fact, like we like it's like, well, what

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Speaker 8: a man who two Garrison's point, actually answered the question

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Speaker 8: I got blacker, And I think he may maybe means

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Speaker 2: Maybe it means that he got blacker an allyship. I

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Speaker 8: I'm willing to give him that pass if he's willing

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Speaker 8: You know, Beyonce has also made a clear sheet from Texas.

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Speaker 8: You know, so this is a place that a place that.

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Speaker 5: Groomed her works about his history.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea from from Canada.

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Speaker 6: Some of the singing that I most remember from church

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Speaker 5: What I'm saying is all I'm.

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Speaker 2: Is he from a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: But this is what I'll say, Andrew, because I think

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Speaker 2: But keep going.

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Speaker 7: But okay, but but she okay, But Beyonce brought a

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Speaker 7: And I'm actually not here to say that Jack Harlowe isn't,

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Speaker 7: are you are you showing up as yourself or are

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Speaker 3: Black person from two thousand and two?

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Speaker 2: Can pull up picture had.

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Speaker 5: Saw, you know?

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Speaker 6: I just I don't.

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Speaker 5: I had to look. I had to look the guy.

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Speaker 2: Up a rabbit hole. You should have cut us off sooner.

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Speaker 1: I'm trying too. I'm just I want everybody to know

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Speaker 1: that Darius Rutger is a better country music artist than Beyond.

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Speaker 1: Can we can we.

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Speaker 2: Take playing Franklin?

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Speaker 7: They called him tea plane is crazy, Moving moving.

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Speaker 1: Onto Chocolate City, Moving on the Chocolate City and Chocolate

451
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Speaker 1: City politics the bastion of black politics and black culture,

452
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Speaker 1: or at least it used to be. Washington d C.

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Speaker 1: Had some fireworks because everybody wants to know. Now, after

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Speaker 1: twelve years, Washington DC is about to get a new mayor.

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Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this most recent mayorial forum

456
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Speaker 1: that we just saw where things go sideways after Kenyon

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Speaker 1: McDuffie slams his opponent, council member Janice Lewis George, for

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Speaker 1: her quote unquote failure to deliver. Take a look at this.

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Speaker 2: He's getting off the stage.

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Speaker 8: He walks over to the third the third or fourth row.

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Speaker 2: He's hugging people. He tells somebody, come on, let's go.

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Speaker 2: He still got his little mic out. I want to

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Speaker 2: hear it. Somebody else is like, thank you for coming.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry about that. That's my girl. That's Nini right there.

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Speaker 8: That's my homie right there talking to him. She's still

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Speaker 8: yelling friend and still yelling in the pulpit. He's still

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Speaker 8: dapping people up. That's Nani talking to him. I don't

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Speaker 8: know what I want to ask Ninie what he said.

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Speaker 5: Is this answering narrating or is it in the video?

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Speaker 2: Okay, anyway, let me just say I have a question.

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Speaker 8: I know it's pure cast, but here's my question, and

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Speaker 8: this is for the two candidates, Andrew and Bakari. So

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Speaker 8: that means, Makar, you got to get off your text.

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Speaker 8: Andrew and Bacari, have you ever been at a candidates

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Speaker 8: for him where you walked off the stage and did

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Speaker 8: not return?

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Speaker 2: And if you did, what was the outcome of that

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Speaker 2: race for you?

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Speaker 3: What is that happened?

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Speaker 1: That's never that's never happened.

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Speaker 2: What you think is gonna happen with Kenya?

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Speaker 6: Does he ever shot up on the stage by myself

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Speaker 6: when everybody else didn't show up.

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Speaker 1: I try to go in and be above the above

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Speaker 1: the fray. I mean that's usually that's usually one of

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Speaker 1: the things that you practice. I mean the people who

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Speaker 1: throw gimmicks out like walking off stage, that's usually pre planned.

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Speaker 1: That ain't something that you just you your spirit just

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Speaker 1: say get up and leave.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he absolutely did.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 6: I don't know him, but that was absolutely prepared, prepared.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tell me why, like what like what does that

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Speaker 2: show the voter?

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Speaker 6: I don't know enough about this race, but I can

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Speaker 6: tell you that this man, uh, this particular candidate who

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Speaker 6: was sort of calling I assumed calling out his the

498
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Speaker 6: other candidate from mayor needed this moment to either buttress

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Speaker 6: an asset that he, it seemed is thought to be

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Speaker 6: lacking in, or to double down on a reputation that

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Speaker 6: people already believe that he has. My assumption is probably

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Speaker 6: the first and not the second, just looking at the

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Speaker 6: way in which he comported himself, that he likely needed

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Speaker 6: to show that he could go gut her if he

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Speaker 6: has to, and call this woman out who it sounds

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Speaker 6: like from the audience response, which was probably also a

507
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Speaker 6: quite stunted audience, like you, he brought his people with him.

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Speaker 6: There was a little bit of set making there. From

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Speaker 6: what would be my perception, just knowing nothing about this

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Speaker 6: race and nothing about the candidates, he needed this moment,

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Speaker 6: and I'm sure he probably went viral and it probably

512
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Speaker 6: did for him exactly what he needed.

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Speaker 8: Well, let me ask you guys this. Let me just

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Speaker 8: do a quick follow up B and then I really

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Speaker 8: want to hear from you. So the candidate who was speaking,

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Speaker 8: she was yelling after Kenyon made Kenya McDuffie made some,

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Speaker 8: you know, pretty big allegations and then got off the stage.

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Speaker 8: The front runner so far in this race is Denise

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Speaker 8: Lewis George and that's who had the mic after him

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Speaker 8: and who he was yelling the stuff about.

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Speaker 2: So to Andrew's point, okay, you needed.

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Speaker 5: To disrupt the race.

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Speaker 1: But also now, just as a caricature, she is someone who,

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Speaker 1: for better or for worse, is going to have to

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Speaker 1: answer questions everywhere she goes about her failure to deliver.

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Speaker 1: So for that, I mean whether or not she's been

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Speaker 1: delivering or not. I mean you get kind of stamped

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Speaker 1: lited with this, and I guess Garrison, we got him here,

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Speaker 1: we might as well talk to them. Because people consume

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Speaker 1: news in interesting ways. Now in this clip that it's viral,

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Speaker 1: it may not penetrate necessarily the voting block that is Washington, DC,

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Speaker 1: because what happens a lot of times with viral moments

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Speaker 1: is people outside of actual voting pools begin talking about them.

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Speaker 1: But this is a new way, and people pool stunts

535
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Speaker 1: like this all the time. You got to be prepared

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Speaker 1: for it. But it certainly was Kenya McDuffie. It was

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Speaker 1: a well executed stunt.

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Speaker 7: It definitely seemed I take your points that this was

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Speaker 7: probably planned. And I do think that the viral moments

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Speaker 7: help probably most with fundraising rather than maybe building the

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Speaker 7: kind of necessary on the ground support that one needs

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Speaker 7: to win. Of course, we're seeing this kind of play

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Speaker 7: out in races across the country where folks have had

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Speaker 7: these big viral moments and there's a question mark around

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Speaker 7: whether or not that will translate to actual votes. We

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Speaker 7: saw that with the elections in the congress elections congressional

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Speaker 7: elections in Illinois. But I am curious about because there

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Speaker 7: seems to be some real kind of disagreement around who

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Speaker 7: is actually responsible. I was checking out an article early

550
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Speaker 7: earlier that you know where Deanie Lewis George basically made

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Speaker 7: the case that Kenyan McDuffie was also responsible for utility prices,

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Speaker 7: and so almost kind of turning this accusation that he

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Speaker 7: leveraged perhaps louder and in a more viral way against her.

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Speaker 7: She kind of turns it back on him, and so

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Speaker 7: I'm hopeful that the people of DC will be able

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Speaker 7: to kind of decipher pull it all together, makes sense

557
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Speaker 7: of the noise. But yeah, to your point, Bikari, there

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Speaker 7: is a whole lot of attention put on virality in

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Speaker 7: this moment, but I really am not confident that that

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Speaker 7: stuff really translates to a vote.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, add.

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Speaker 6: One thing to what you said, which is the fundraising

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Speaker 6: it helps. The other thing that it does is it

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Speaker 6: puts her a bit in a definition box. Now from

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Speaker 6: a communication standpoint, every local news station that covers it

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Speaker 6: now is going to first approach her from this negative

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Speaker 6: angle your opponent accuses you of, and I assure you

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Speaker 6: that her response will never be as loud as his accusation,

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Speaker 6: and for that it probably makes a win for him, at.

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Speaker 5: Least on this issue.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that scared me is we

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Speaker 1: transition into actual, real results, real results and real elections.

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Speaker 1: That happened recently is I did see a white dude

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Speaker 1: sitting on that stage, is looking left and right as

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Speaker 1: these people were yelling and screaming into microphones. And sometimes

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Speaker 1: that tends to happen in our communities. We get out

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Speaker 1: there a little ahead of our skis and we allow

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Speaker 1: somebody else who does and look like us. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: have our best interest to represent our communities. Let's hope

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen in Washington, d C. But we'll be

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Speaker 1: keeping an eye on it. What did happen, though, was Illinois.

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Speaker 1: Illinois had some primaries last night, and for those of

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Speaker 1: you all who want to know. Illinois is one of

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Speaker 1: those states, a lot like the southern states that I

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Speaker 1: live in right now in South Carolina, where if you

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Speaker 1: win a primary nine times out of ten, that is

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Speaker 1: your general election too. Let's put up these results and

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Speaker 1: what we do know that the fifty thousand foot view

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Speaker 1: is we now have a new United States senator. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we could play I was going to play that in

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Speaker 1: one second. Juliana Stratton a Democrat who beat some other

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Speaker 1: dims last night in the primary, a whole litany of them.

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Speaker 1: It was a very contentious. We saw some things pop

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Speaker 1: off at the It was a very impressive win. She

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Speaker 1: was the lieutenant governor for JB. Pritzker, so it's a

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Speaker 1: huge win for him. She is a fighter. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that ad that Angela just alluded to, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll talk about this race and other races in Illinois

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Speaker 1: on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Trump vote Juliana. Fuck Trump vote Juliana.

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Speaker 5: Fuck Trump vote Juliana.

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Speaker 2: They said it not me.

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Speaker 14: I'm Juliana Stratton, and I'm proud to have lived my

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Speaker 14: whole life on the South side of Chicago. I'm not

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Speaker 14: scared of a wanna be dictator. I'm running for Senate

606
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Speaker 14: to stand up to Donald Trump.

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Speaker 2: I'll abolish ice.

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Speaker 14: And hold Trump accountable for the crimes he's committed. Just

609
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Speaker 14: like they said, Fuck Trump, Fuck Trump, Fuck Trump.

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Speaker 1: Vote Juliana.

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Speaker 2: That's why I approved this message.

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Speaker 5: Chat.

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Speaker 1: I do want you to know this is a This

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Speaker 1: is a production note, not a timeout, but a note.

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Speaker 1: Our producer Nick Carter has been admonishing us consistently to

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Speaker 1: stop cursing as much as we have on show, and

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Speaker 1: we've been making efforts to do so, and so Angela

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Speaker 1: pulling this ad just as giving Nick a heart attack

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Speaker 1: right now, Well, this.

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Speaker 8: Is we're quoting the ad so we can we can

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Speaker 8: use it. We're actually able to cuss. We just are

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Speaker 8: church going people and we try not to. Sometimes your

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Speaker 8: cousins make us cuss, and Donald Trump's not your cousins.

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Speaker 2: But nevertheless, so she joined, She will join.

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Speaker 1: Uh, she will join right now in office current black

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Speaker 1: United States senator. She will make number six along with

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Speaker 1: are you counting?

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Speaker 2: Tim Scott?

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Speaker 1: I was gonna count Corey Booker, Raphael wardnot Lisa Blunt Rochester,

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Speaker 1: Angela also Brooks and Garrison's friend he hung out with

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Speaker 1: at the r n C. Tim Scott, No, he took.

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Speaker 8: A selfie with Don Staley. I want to know how

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Speaker 8: Don feels about that, by the way, but yeah, he

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Speaker 8: I don't think he should count anyway.

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Speaker 1: He counts well, congratulations, congratulations, that's his liketor.

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Speaker 2: We should have a mini pod on why he should

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Speaker 2: not count.

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Speaker 6: And thank you Illinois, by the way, because a lot

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Speaker 6: of people thought that the two black women, the congresswoman

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Speaker 6: uh and the lieutenant governor were going to split the

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Speaker 6: vote and RAJ was gonna come through kind of uh,

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Speaker 6: you know.

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Speaker 5: Up the middle.

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Speaker 6: And they sent us Carol Moseley bram they sent us

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Speaker 6: Barack Obama, and they are now sending us the lieutenant governor.

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Speaker 6: And I just think it says something about that state

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Speaker 6: that their history in this lane kind of goes back

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Speaker 6: a bit. They probably are the state that has been

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Speaker 6: the greatest contributor of blacks to the US Senate.

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Speaker 7: I'm curious what lessons should we take from this about

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Speaker 7: black women's electability in this country.

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Speaker 2: I love this question and the fast.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, no, no, no, go ahead. I think that's

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Speaker 1: a great.

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Speaker 2: South Carolina and Wi Fi.

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Speaker 1: Edgelo go ahead and answer the question. I was just

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Speaker 1: going to say, I agree with you. With you about

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Speaker 1: loving this question. I can't even agree with this woman.

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Speaker 8: Go ahead because you agree fifteen minutes later because you

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Speaker 8: are on dial up. But all I was gonna say

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Speaker 8: was I think that we should stop asking this question

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Speaker 8: about our electability. I think that black women have proven

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Speaker 8: electability statewide time and time again again Tianna Taylor up

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Speaker 8: against all odds, and when the resources aren't there, when

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Speaker 8: the challenge is there, when the questions are there about qualifications, like,

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Speaker 8: it's just old and tired, and it's a narrative that

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Speaker 8: needs to be dismissed. When people have the carpet rolled

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Speaker 8: out for them because of legacy, because of longstanding participation

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Speaker 8: in the process, having been there before.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes they don't win either, you know, And so I

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Speaker 2: think that we have.

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Speaker 8: To acknowledge that too, Like it's it is sometimes it's

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Speaker 8: the timing of the thing. I feel like there's an

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Speaker 8: it factor that exists for people on both sides of

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Speaker 8: the aisle, regardless of your racial background and certainly regardless

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Speaker 8: of gender, and we have to take all of those

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Speaker 8: things into consideration. We all know when somebody has it,

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Speaker 8: at least half this room has it for electability. And

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying me and Garrison not running, but y'all

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Speaker 8: have run and have won because you all have the

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Speaker 8: IT factor.

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Speaker 2: We have to unpack what the it factor includes. It

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Speaker 2: ain't gender. It really isn't.

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Speaker 1: As fair.

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Speaker 6: If we were to do an analysis of who loses

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Speaker 6: the most, white men are going to come up at

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Speaker 6: the top.

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Speaker 5: Hell, yet we never.

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Speaker 6: Asked whether or not they're It's true right, whether or

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Speaker 6: not they're electable if you're in a mistake like mine

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Speaker 6: and always had a history of nominating the same typograph

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Speaker 6: for you know, certain offices and they've lost repeatedly. Yet

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Speaker 6: I mean, really, I did search the archives of is

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Speaker 6: there an article that just raises the question, are white

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Speaker 6: men electable in Florida?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 6: Democratic white men electable in Florida? You know none of

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Speaker 6: that exists.

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Speaker 2: We should start doing that a like are they like?

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Speaker 2: I don't care.

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Speaker 6: I mean, it's just about the It's never a question

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Speaker 6: for them. I used to hate it almost when I

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Speaker 6: would get it on the trail because you know, you

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Speaker 6: you'd have to lean into it honestly, like you're you know,

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Speaker 6: you're giving a consideration, but at the same time you're like,

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Speaker 6: do you know I am following a line of twenty

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Speaker 6: year losers, like that's been on history. We we ain't

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Speaker 6: broken the ceiling for that long.

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Speaker 2: You didn't say that, just want.

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Speaker 6: To other ways, right, But but but it's a frustrating

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Speaker 6: thing because they never have to answer it.

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Speaker 1: One of the other highlights from last night is some

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Speaker 1: of the people who wade into racist and won and lost.

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Speaker 15: Uh.

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Speaker 1: The Justice Dems last night were over two. Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: was over two. The Congressional Black Caucus was oh for three.

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Speaker 1: Here you Cogressional Progressive Caucus was one for four. Fair Shake,

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Speaker 1: which is the pro crypto.

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Speaker 2: Pack, that's why Republican and the pro.

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Speaker 1: AI was one for two. Elizabeth Warren was two for

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Speaker 1: four last night.

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Speaker 2: Just throwing out Elizabeth Warren, where's she.

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Speaker 1: At in Illinois? I guess.

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Speaker 15: She is.

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Speaker 6: Trying to point out to us that the Democratic Party

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Speaker 6: is I don't.

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Speaker 2: Know essentially he stands with the Dixie Cras.

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Speaker 5: But I think the polls do show us that. Do

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Speaker 5: you see?

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Speaker 2: He literally laughed, yes, I mean tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: And now we're still talking about it.

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Speaker 6: Sorry, but I think no, I'm just saying I think

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Speaker 6: I think what happened last night is that people who

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Speaker 6: believed they were voting for for for Kennedys, who would

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Speaker 6: be fighters.

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Speaker 5: The fighters prevailed.

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Speaker 6: I don't think anybody went philosophically in there saying are

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Speaker 6: you going to be?

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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 6: By the way, I have not studied every race, and

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Speaker 6: I do not know.

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Speaker 5: That well.

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Speaker 6: What I'm saying is the perception of the voters in

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Speaker 6: the places where these people live. They they voters have

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Speaker 6: said overwhelmingly they don't want people rolling over to Trump. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: so they perceived that they sent people there who will

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Speaker 6: go and fight for him.

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Speaker 8: The lad It's quick, I promise be so. I don't

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Speaker 8: know Donna Miller who beat Jesse Jackson Junior, but I

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Speaker 8: do take issue with the fact that Apak flooded money

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Speaker 8: into that race and it doesn't have a large Jewish

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Speaker 8: population in that district. I also take issue. I don't

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Speaker 8: know if you all saw this, and I know we

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Speaker 8: can't put it up. Sorry, Nick, I didn't send it.

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Speaker 8: But Apak put a post up after Juliana one against

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Speaker 8: raj and Robin Kelly, pointing out the difference between her

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Speaker 8: and Robin Kelly and why they were glad robin Kelly

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Speaker 8: left because of her recent position around Palestine, and I

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Speaker 8: just think that type of rhetoric is super divisive and

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Speaker 8: unfortunate and unnecessary, Like there's enough for us to be

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Speaker 8: fighting on every side.

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Speaker 2: So that's I do look forward to.

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Speaker 8: Getting to know Donna Miller in her posent on issues,

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Speaker 8: but I was really plagued and bothered by that. It

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Speaker 8: harkens back to Wesley Bell, who I will never support

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Speaker 8: because he's a crook and liar, but keep laying okay.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to make sure that people didn't miss Brother

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Speaker 1: Gillum's point because I thought it was one that was very,

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Speaker 1: very valid about people just simply wanting at times now

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Speaker 1: although we can dig into the details and the minution

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Speaker 1: the nuance, but people wanting a fighter because people see

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Speaker 1: this type of totalitarianism, they see this authoritarianism, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are just saying what Juliana Stratton said

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Speaker 1: in her at which is f Trump. But to that point,

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Speaker 1: as we talk about and go into our larger conversation

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Speaker 1: of this conversation around US imperialism, there was one of

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Speaker 1: the clips I wanted to lead off with and talk about,

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Speaker 1: but it was Pete Hegseth, who criticizes the media's coverage

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Speaker 1: of the Iran war and talked about the fact he

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Speaker 1: couldn't wait for Ellison to take over CNN. Let's talk

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Speaker 1: about it on the other side.

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Speaker 4: With every passing hour, we know, and we know they

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Speaker 4: know that the military capabilities of their evil regime are crumbling.

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Speaker 4: They can barely communicate, let alone coordinate. They're confused, and

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Speaker 4: we know it. Our response, we will keep pressing, We

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Speaker 4: will keep pushing, keep advancing. No quarter, no mercy for

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Speaker 4: our enemies. Yet some of this crew in the press

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Speaker 4: just can't stop. Allow me to make a few suggestions.

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Speaker 4: People look up at the TV and they see banners,

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Speaker 4: they see headlines. I used to be in that business,

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Speaker 4: and I know that everything is written intentionally. For example,

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Speaker 4: a banner or a headline mid East War intensifies, splashing

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Speaker 4: on the screen the last couple of days, alongside visuals

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Speaker 4: of civilian or energy targets that Iran has hit, because

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Speaker 4: that's what they do. What should the banner read instead?

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Speaker 4: How about Iran increasingly desperate?

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Speaker 5: Because they are. They know it, and so do you.

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Speaker 4: If it can be admitted or more fake news from

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Speaker 4: CNN reports that the Trump administration underestimated the Iran War's

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Speaker 4: impact on the Strait of horror moves patently ridiculous. Of course,

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Speaker 4: for decades, Iran has threatened shipping in the strait of

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Speaker 4: horror moves. This is always what they do. Hold the

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Speaker 4: straight hostage. CNN doesn't think we thought of that. It's

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Speaker 4: a fundamentally unserious report. The sooner David Ellison takes over

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Speaker 4: that network.

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Speaker 1: The better.

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Speaker 6: He's a fundamentally unseerious person.

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Speaker 8: That's why Liz CAUs him. Pete Kigg's breath, Do you

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Speaker 8: have any.

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Speaker 6: That should like alarm anybody on the listening side of that?

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Speaker 6: There's a lot about it. But as the Defense Secretary

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Speaker 6: for the United States of America, his use of the

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Speaker 6: phrase no quarter, which we should just break down for

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Speaker 6: a moment, refers to the refusal to spare the life

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Speaker 6: of an enemy even after surrender. It means you will

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Speaker 6: kill the enemy, regardless of surrender or their inability to

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Speaker 6: fight back. And according to the Geneva Conventions, I think

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Speaker 6: of like nineteen oh seven, that is a war crime,

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Speaker 6: and it is acknowledged at the Hague and through all

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Speaker 6: international definitions of the rules of engagement of war that

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Speaker 6: have been agreed to by all civilized nations, and practically

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Speaker 6: I don't know that there is one that doesn't agree.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe North.

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Speaker 6: Korea will Little Jim Jim Ill Kim Jong Ill, right,

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Speaker 6: but demand at a press conference basically asserted an international

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Speaker 6: war crime would be the status quo conduct of the

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Speaker 6: United States and military. Again, there there are obviously worst

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Speaker 6: things that that that this administration has done and said

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Speaker 6: and lied about and so on and so forth. But

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Speaker 6: I just find it alarming that a man who was

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Speaker 6: I think himself in service and then now lead to

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Speaker 6: the service as a civilian leader for the military under

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Speaker 6: the president, would would.

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Speaker 5: Commit a war crime.

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Speaker 1: I think there was so much to take out of that,

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Speaker 1: But for me, it just goes to the oligarchy and

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Speaker 1: the fact that they're talking about one of their friends.

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Speaker 1: They're talking about one of their colleagues taking over the media.

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Speaker 1: We now know, if we can put up just the

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Speaker 1: picture of the tweet from Donald Trump just quickly, how

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Speaker 1: they want to take away our voices, how they want

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Speaker 1: to take away any dissenting voice, which is fascism, which

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Speaker 1: is the oligarchy. And if you look at this tweet

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Speaker 1: from Donald Trump recently, he talks about getting PBS defunded.

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Speaker 1: He talks about getting joy Read and Lester Hope and

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Speaker 1: Jim Acosta and John Dickerson and Chuck Todd and Colbert

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Speaker 1: and all the people who had any type of just

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Speaker 1: clear eyed view that was diametrically opposed to that of

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Speaker 1: the White House out and under reforms. He talks about

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Speaker 1: CNN new ownership, He talks about TikTok, he talks about X,

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Speaker 1: he talks about Disney, the FCC. I mean, all of

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Speaker 1: these things. If we don't wake up, Garrison's now an

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Speaker 1: independent media. But if we don't wake up, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just think about how the oligarchy's going to control our

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Speaker 1: ability to dissent.

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Speaker 7: You said something there, Kari that I think is important

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Speaker 7: to kind of highlight, which is that it has never

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Speaker 7: been more important that you support independent media than this time.

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Speaker 3: Right now. We are living in a time.

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Speaker 7: And when I say independent media, I don't just mean

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Speaker 7: like creators and people who are disseminating information that way,

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Speaker 7: which I think is important. I'm talking about non partisan media,

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Speaker 7: which they are actively trying to chip away at. CBS

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Speaker 7: is absolutely partisan these days. They have in angle CBS News.

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Speaker 7: I think about CNN that they're saying the Ellisons are

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Speaker 7: going to take over.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 7: You know, when I'm listening to Hegseth, I'm thinking about

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Speaker 7: the fact that I try to get as much of

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Speaker 7: my Middle East news as possible from Al Jazeera. And

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Speaker 7: if you go to Al Jazeera and look at their

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Speaker 7: website and they're reporting on what's happening over there, it's

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Speaker 7: actually fundamentally different many times than what you see on

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Speaker 7: American media because now you have all of these these

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Speaker 7: these speed bumps in the way, You have the bully

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Speaker 7: pulpit of the presidency coming down on a New York

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Speaker 7: Times or on any of the other news agencies for

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Speaker 7: what they're reporting on, and so you kind of got

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Speaker 7: to look other places these days. It's incredibly important. The

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Speaker 7: other thing that Hegseth said that I want to highlight

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Speaker 7: was that every single Chiron banner headline is craft intentionally.

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Speaker 7: And what he didn't say, but what he intended for

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Speaker 7: you to understand, is that it's all intentionally crafted to

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Speaker 7: steer you in a specific direction. He even goes so

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Speaker 7: far as to say, I come from that business, which

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Speaker 7: is to say when he was at Fox News, that's

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Speaker 7: what they were doing. They were crafting the story to

888
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 7: kind of steer you in a very very specific direction.

889
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 7: What they're talking about is propaganda, which is what I

890
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 7: believe they want for all the American news stations to

891
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 7: kind of be putting out there on their behalf. It's

892
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 7: certainly what Barry Weiss is doing for them, and so

893
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 7: you've got to kind of be aware of where you're

894
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 7: getting this information from.

895
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 5: Also State run news.

896
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean also to you that thank you natural

897
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 1: segue Andrew, I mean state run news. Let's put up

898
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: this tweet from SEC chair Brendan Carr who threatened to

899
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: revoke broadcast licenses and broadcasters don't operate in the quote

900
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: unquote public interest and give the Aaran war more friendly

901
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: news coverage. He said. Broadcasters that are running hoaxes and

902
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,240
Speaker 1: news distortions are all so known. Is the fake news

903
00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: have a chance now to correct course before their license

904
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: renewals come up. I mean that's a blatant threat. I

905
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: mean it is. It is State run News. I mean

906
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,760
Speaker 1: it's a it's a longer tweet that I hope individuals

907
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to read. At the end, he says,

908
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: when a political candidate is able to win in a

909
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 1: landslide election victory. By the way, this is supposed to

910
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: be a non partisan office. After in the face of

911
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 1: hoaxes and distortions, there is something very wrong. It means

912
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: the public has lost faith and confidence in the media,

913
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: and we can't allow that to happen. Time for change.

914
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: Who is a landslide election victory he talking about?

915
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 8: You know, Okay, I just you know what's troubling me

916
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 8: right now is the many ways in which the deck

917
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 8: is stacked. And it's not just a deck that is

918
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 8: stacked in media. It's one that they've tried to stack

919
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 8: with legal representation. It's one they've tried to stack with

920
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 8: you know, false against some of the people who are

921
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 8: our heroes right now and have the courage to fight

922
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 8: in this moment. Even with the media, they're not playing fair.

923
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 8: They are buying their followers and their downloads and all

924
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 8: of the other things. So it really does put you

925
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 8: in a position of feeling helpless. And I think that

926
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 8: the most important thing we can do in this hour

927
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 8: is turned towards each other. And I think what is

928
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 8: so disturbing and alarming to me in this moment is

929
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 8: that's not what we're doing, like all of the things

930
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 8: that they're doing to create conflict because we feel like

931
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 8: we can't win as a people. We are turning our

932
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 8: fire and ire towards each other instead of the actual

933
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 8: enemy because the enemy feels too big.

934
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't get it.

935
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 8: So I really hope that we recenter and take on

936
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 8: the actual fight. We're not going to win if we

937
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 8: keep fighting one another.

938
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: We're just not Can I add one point to Garrison's

939
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: pointing made earlier, just because I become a much larger

940
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: proponent of it. The technolofe divide is so great where

941
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 1: I'm from that many times the influencers and cultural commentators

942
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 1: that we learn to grow and love aren't necessarily saturating

943
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: into where I'm from. But the media that is there

944
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: to consume is local journalism. And so while we're also

945
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 1: talking about quote unquote independent journalism, I think that there

946
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 1: is another pathway referred to as local journalism, and that

947
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: needs our support today as well, because that is drying

948
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: up and dying, and that is where everyday average Americans

949
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: can get their news, can be a part of the

950
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: news and the stories that we want to hear or told.

951
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: And I think that I don't ever really talk about

952
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: King in public. I just hate talking about him in public.

953
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: But that fierce urgency of now that he discussed and

954
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: I have a dream speech is something that I think

955
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Angela was echoing. But when we see that these things happen,

956
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: sometimes it just feels like they're dropping the bucket. I mean, Nick,

957
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: just a minute ago, he was talking about taking over

958
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Cuba and nobody blinked an eye.

959
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, why character went down by the way.

960
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 6: This guy is saying, first of all, Republicans, the people,

961
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 6: these America first people should be pulling their hair out

962
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 6: if they believed any of what he said during the

963
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,720
Speaker 6: campaign themselves, if that's what they were truly advocating for.

964
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 5: But the fact that we're.

965
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 6: Spending over a billion dollars a day on a war,

966
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 6: a conflict that the President has yet to explain to

967
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 6: the American people. He has not held a single address,

968
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,839
Speaker 6: not a single address from the White House, from the podium,

969
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 6: from the Resolute Desk to prepare us for what it

970
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 6: is we're doing over there. Americans have already lost their lives. Others,

971
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,640
Speaker 6: you know, over one hundred and sixty hours so are injured,

972
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 6: which they find it an inconvenience when the media asks

973
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 6: how did these soldiers die, what region were they in,

974
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 6: how were these soldiers injured, and the president says, is

975
00:50:17,120 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 6: there another question? Anyone have a question that's not about

976
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 6: dead people?

977
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 3: Right?

978
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 5: This is how he comports himself.

979
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 6: And then he uses language like, yeah, we'll take over

980
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,879
Speaker 6: We'll control Cuba. Yeah, I think we're going to take

981
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 6: over Cuba next, and Venezuela. Yeah, we don't have a

982
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 6: timeline for when we'll when we'll we'll hand back over

983
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 6: leadership to them, we'll control, we'll control that. And yeah,

984
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 6: we'll take Greenland.

985
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 5: You know why you add it?

986
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 6: And let me think of whatever expansion is imperialists designs

987
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 6: I have on the world, while the rest of the

988
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 6: world has spent the last hundred years deconstructing empires, right nations,

989
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 6: sovereign people deciding that they've always been sovereign, despite what

990
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 6: royal title or country you think you are to have

991
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 6: owned us in the first place. Everybody else has moved

992
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 6: away from that except two Vladimir Putin, who is trying

993
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 6: to reconstitute the old Soviet Republic, Kim Jong un, who

994
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 6: wants to take over South Korea because he declares it's

995
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 6: part of one Korea. Shijinping, who wants to take over

996
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 6: Taiwan because he's never recognized Taiwan as being its own country,

997
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 6: its own sovereign land. It is a part of China,

998
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 6: Endo China. And then who else do we add to

999
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 6: that list? The only other person we can legitimately add

1000
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 6: to that list is the goddamn leader of the free world,

1001
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 6: a free world that he doesn't believe in because he's

1002
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 6: trying to build empires again. I just hope, I just

1003
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 6: hope that this midterm election, we're all going to be

1004
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,759
Speaker 6: smart enough that we don't have to fall in love

1005
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 6: with the candidates on the ballot. We're gonna have to

1006
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,799
Speaker 6: fall in line. We're the ones who are going to

1007
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 6: help hold off and stave off this imperialist, expansionist man

1008
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 6: who who I quite find dangerously delirious most days that

1009
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,439
Speaker 6: he's speaking. And I think somebody ought to be checking

1010
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 6: into that.

1011
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 1: Nobody knows, you know, one of the things that I

1012
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 1: wanted to check into because a lot of people heard

1013
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: us mention Cuba, but they may have missed it in

1014
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: the bleep right uh in the week. It's just it's

1015
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: a bleep on the radars. What I'm trying to say,

1016
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: Play this Cuba clip, Nick, so people can see how I'm.

1017
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: Not think you mean bleak blip or mean bleep a

1018
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: hard eye, thank you.

1019
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 14: I do believe I'll be the honor of having the

1020
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 14: honor of.

1021
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,919
Speaker 3: Taking Cuba. That'd big, big honor.

1022
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 15: That's a big honor of taking cubeb.

1023
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: In some form.

1024
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 3: Take in Guber.

1025
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 11: I mean, whether I free it, take it, I think

1026
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 11: I can do anything I want with it.

1027
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 3: You'll want another to a.

1028
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,439
Speaker 10: Very weekend nation right down.

1029
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: I think that's maybe the wildest thing I heard him

1030
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: say ever. And that is a big statement to make,

1031
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: Gollid Garrison.

1032
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 7: I think it is a big But if you understand

1033
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 7: it's a big statement, and it is alarming. But if

1034
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,399
Speaker 7: you understand it within the larger context of what people

1035
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 7: are calling the Donro doctrine, which is more or less

1036
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 7: Donald Trump's kind of take on the Monroe doctrine, which

1037
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 7: is to say, the United States is supposed to be

1038
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 7: kind of the sole ruler over the quote unquote heavy

1039
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 7: scare quotes Western hemisphere. If you understand it within that context,

1040
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 7: it kind of makes sense. In so many ways are

1041
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 7: foreign policy, especially in kind of the countries that more

1042
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 7: or less kind of surround America, thinking about Canada, thinking

1043
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 7: about Venezuela, Cuba. Now our dealings and Caribbean, a lot

1044
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 7: of it really is kind of a proxy war with

1045
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 7: China or a proxy kind of conflict with Russia. We

1046
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 7: are effectively at this point under Donald Trump, we are

1047
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 7: effectively finding all of these little places where we're trying

1048
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 7: to stamp out the influence of our kind of geopolitical enemies.

1049
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 7: And I think in so many ways it's an extension

1050
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 7: of the long history of empire that the United States

1051
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 7: of America has been engaging in for so long as

1052
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 7: as Andrew pointed out, I mean, you think about the

1053
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 7: way we deal with Puerto Rico, and it's kind of military,

1054
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 7: kind of strategic placement more or less, that's why we're

1055
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 7: there in so many ways. The same is true of Hawaii.

1056
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 7: But if you talk to the people who are indigenous

1057
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 7: from those places, they actually despise in so many ways

1058
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 7: the occupation, the imperial occupation of the United States, and

1059
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 7: so it makes quote unquote sense in those context, and

1060
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 7: it actually I think asks a bigger question of us

1061
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 7: as kind of main land American people about whether or

1062
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 7: not we want to continue to be a country that

1063
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 7: is engaging in empire around the globe and whether or

1064
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 7: not we want to continue to kind of carry out

1065
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 7: these atrocities against human beings in all of these places.

1066
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 7: There's a really really great book, This is the last

1067
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 7: thing I'll say. There's a really really great book called

1068
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,399
Speaker 7: The Open Veins of Latin America that more or less

1069
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 7: it was written in the seventies, but it more or

1070
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 7: less makes the case that eventually all of the chickens,

1071
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 7: as Jeremiah Wright once said, will come home to roost

1072
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 7: in America. All of the dealings that we did in

1073
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 7: South America, the ways that we did regime change and

1074
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 7: we plundered the people and stole from the land, all

1075
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 7: of that stuff is eventually going to show up at

1076
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 7: our southern southern border and ask where's all the stuff

1077
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 7: you just stole from us? And I think we're dealing

1078
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 7: with that right now. And I can't imagine a worse

1079
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 7: leader to be in place than Donald Trump in this

1080
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 7: exact moment. And again it begs us, it asks us

1081
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 7: as voters to make a decision around what kind of

1082
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,240
Speaker 7: country we want to be. We are making more enemies

1083
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 7: day after day because of this man in office and

1084
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 7: our continued exploitative foreign policy around the world.

1085
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:10,839
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question of your three real quick,

1086
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: just a big question and I'll be quiet. I want

1087
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: to hear each one of you alls response to this.

1088
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 1: When I'm in the barbershop, when I'm talking to people

1089
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: at the grocery store, young people, whatever. Why should people care,

1090
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: like tangibly speaking, why should every day Americans we deal

1091
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 1: with in our everyday lives. Why should they care?

1092
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 6: And I assume you mean on this topic of expansion.

1093
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: Correct, imperialismation occupationalists.

1094
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, even your opponent, you can have

1095
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 6: the biggest, baddest, tallest, wealthiest, most resourced military in the world,

1096
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 6: as we are seeing right now in Iran. Those planes

1097
00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 6: and ships and bombs can destroy a lot of things,

1098
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,840
Speaker 6: but it still can't get you a country. They have

1099
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 6: agency too, they have your look Vietnam, we beasted them

1100
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 6: as it relates to military might, except you can't take

1101
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Speaker 6: a country from the air. You have to get on

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Speaker 6: the ground. And when they got on the ground, the

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Speaker 6: indigenous people whose land it was, who knew the crevices,

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00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 6: the spaces, the opportunities, the weak spots, the opportunistic places

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00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 6: to fight, and they had grilla warfare and the biggest

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00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 6: baddest nation in the land had to leave that land

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00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 6: with their tail tucked between their legs for an utter

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00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: failure that resulted in thousands of American lives being lost

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00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 6: for no goddamn reason. This president is talking about the

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 6: reinstallment of the draft for those of us who don't

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00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 6: want to be a part of a voluntary military.

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Speaker 1: The man with what did he have, uh.

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00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 16: Bones first, who refuse service in that way for his country, wants.

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00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 6: To enlist the rest of us in service to the

1115
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 6: country for wars of expansion and imperialism that he wants

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00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 6: to fight. So I'm just saying we can, we can.

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00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 6: We can want to be about ourselves and take care

1118
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 6: of home and our loved ones and close that you know,

1119
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 6: that that door and keep everything out. Except you can't

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00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 6: because we're all on the same utility grid. H We

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00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 6: all are part of the same economy and the same

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00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 6: stock market where our retirement funds. Even if we don't

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00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,439
Speaker 6: know which companies they're invested in, somebody's investing in them

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Speaker 6: and managing them on our behalf.

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Speaker 5: The price of oil.

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Speaker 6: All these countries over there and Europe saying we didn't

1127
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 6: ask for this war.

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00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 5: He didn't consult us about this war.

1129
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 6: But guess what they are playing skyrocketed prices for oil.

1130
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 6: They are paying more there than we're paying here. And

1131
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 6: we're the ones that went over and kicked over the

1132
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 6: damn hornet's nest. So all I'm saying is everything is everything.

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00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 6: We don't have the luxury of just being able to

1134
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 6: pull out once we're in it, even if we don't

1135
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 6: want it.

1136
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 5: We get drug right along.

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00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 3: To put a.

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00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 7: Quote to what Andrew just said, it's from the doctor

1139
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 7: Martin Luther King Junior. Butcary, you you brought them up,

1140
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 7: so I have to quot him now.

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00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 3: You know.

1142
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 7: He says, we are caught in an inescapable network of

1143
00:59:39,080 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 7: mutuality that's tied in a single garment, garment of destiny.

1144
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 8: Destiny macaur whatever is to delayed to be doing this

1145
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 8: right now.

1146
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 7: Whatever affects one directly affects all indirectly. I will tell

1147
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 7: you why the young person in the barbershop shook care.

1148
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 7: When these white men want to grow their wealth from

1149
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 7: oil and gas, they send black bodies to the front

1150
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:09,440
Speaker 7: lines to die. This is what Andrew is basically saying,

1151
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 7: They're going to send your sons and your daughters they're

1152
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 7: going to use your resources. Your gas prices are going

1153
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,960
Speaker 7: to go higher, right, your access to resources will be

1154
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 7: more scarce and more difficult to come by. They're going

1155
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 7: to put us all in it. But then beyond that,

1156
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 7: these wars and the effects on the environment. I'm a

1157
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 7: person who believes that climate change is real. It's going

1158
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 7: to affect the people in New Orleans first. It's gonna

1159
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 7: affect the black people in South Florida first. Like, that's

1160
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,920
Speaker 7: where these communities that have been disinvested in my community.

1161
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Speaker 7: This is these are the communities that are going to

1162
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Speaker 7: be affected first, and primarily as our climate changes is

1163
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 7: our globe becomes more and more inhabitable place for life.

1164
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 7: And so this is why you should click care because

1165
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 7: we are all connected. This stuff is all connected.

1166
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Speaker 6: True.

1167
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: I have no notes. I think that you are answered

1168
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: this very well.

1169
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Speaker 8: I just I wish that again, we put a lot

1170
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 8: of onus on people who don't care, but we don't

1171
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 8: take a lot of time to figure out why they

1172
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 8: don't care. And what they've been shown over and over

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01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 8: again is that the collective who urges them to care

1174
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 8: don't care about them. They can't see that in the

1175
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 8: results of what's happening. They're going to fill it the

1176
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 8: consequences of not caring right after the midterm elections, when

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01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,800
Speaker 8: SNAP benefits are cut, Medicare, Medicaid services are cut, they

1178
01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 8: will fill it.

1179
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Speaker 2: But I think that in.

1180
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 8: A lot of ways, because folks are so disengaged, those

1181
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 8: who are those of us who are engaged, will still

1182
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 8: be facing the consequences of folks not realizing or not

1183
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 8: caring or not engaging.

1184
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 6: It's also I think it's important we acknowledge that it's

1185
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 6: also really hard to take a beating every day to

1186
01:01:56,120 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 6: just I mean, we all felt it. I mean, their

1187
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 6: first year of Trump. I wish still are we or well,

1188
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 6: I guess it's the second year technically, but but.

1189
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Speaker 5: I want to swivel.

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01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 6: I mean, I was doing detoxes of news for the

1191
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 6: weekend and for the evening, not letting the news be

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01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 6: on when the kids were in the room, just sort

1193
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 6: of reconstituting our household and how we run to avoid

1194
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 6: them hearing certain things that may make them anxious. We're

1195
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 6: already anxious enough. It's been dizzying. And I know if

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01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:34,400
Speaker 6: I fill it with whatever privilege on this earth I

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01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 6: have that other people with as much or less and

1198
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 6: may be even more privilege, the privilege to be able

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Speaker 6: to talk about this with reason and so our mind

1200
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 6: and not just go crazy, shake it our head and

1201
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 6: break out into humming sounds because there are no words.

1202
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 5: To put to the feeling.

1203
01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 6: It's hard to get beat down every day and then

1204
01:03:00,440 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 6: have to sink right back into the reality and you

1205
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 6: and you realize you don't have the tools to fight.

1206
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,720
Speaker 6: So there are folks who, yeah, who know who who

1207
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 6: who are on the on the on the side of

1208
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 6: this thing that is very consequential in impact, who aren't

1209
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 6: checked out. They're just out of the resource they feel

1210
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 6: they need to be able to fight at this level.

1211
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 6: And we're I think we have to having to renew

1212
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 6: ours renew our belief that every one of us are

1213
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 6: equal when it comes to the ballot box. Every one

1214
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 6: of us can write a letter to every one of

1215
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 6: us can show up at school board meeting. Every one

1216
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 6: of us has an opportunity to do something. You don't

1217
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 6: have to do everything, but but we all have the

1218
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 6: opportunity to do something. And I don't think we should

1219
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 6: create a permission structure to let anybody out of that obligation.

1220
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 1: Nobody I think that, Andrew. I think both of you

1221
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: all really answered that question, and I hope that viewers

1222
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: and listeners take the opportunity to do with that information.

1223
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: People always ask us, you know, tangibly, what can people do?

1224
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 1: Or why should people care? That's why I asked that question.

1225
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the number one question. While we

1226
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: care what happens in Iran, why do we care what

1227
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: happens in Cuba? And I'm glad you all are answering

1228
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,720
Speaker 1: those questions. There's something that's breaking right now. It probably

1229
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: won't be breaking when you hear this, but Andrew and

1230
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,480
Speaker 1: I were we're talking about this earlier, but there are

1231
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 1: there are some hearings going on, and I wanted us

1232
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: to just play this real quick before we before we were,

1233
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 1: before we skadattle Andrew speaking of news and consuming it,

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01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,680
Speaker 1: and Garrison, this is why your work is so important.

1235
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 1: Because we probably talked about twenty seven important issues today.

1236
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 1: This is number twenty eight. So I wanted to throw

1237
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:50,560
Speaker 1: this in here before we got to our CTA's Andrew

1238
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: talks to it.

1239
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, so you mentioned there are some important hearings going

1240
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 6: on up here. I'll be quick, and that is you

1241
01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 6: finally are hearing from the Director of National inte Diligence

1242
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 6: Tolci Gabbert in the in the clandestine apparatus of this

1243
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 6: country that keeps the president informed about what's going on

1244
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 6: across the globe. Some real good questions being asked there

1245
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 6: by senators on both sides to be honest about it.

1246
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 6: And then the other one that I think we're gonna

1247
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:24,160
Speaker 6: now talk to is the next appointee for the Department.

1248
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 6: The secretary of for the Department of Homeland Security is

1249
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 6: right now being interviewed by his fellow senators in the

1250
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 6: confirmation process to become the next g Department of Homeland

1251
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 6: Security secretary. As you all know Christinome, who is the

1252
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,840
Speaker 6: previous secretary, and I guess she may be still serving.

1253
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 6: I don't know is she had the job yet, are

1254
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 6: still in there, I'm not sure, but on our way

1255
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 6: out if she ain't out, is leaving the job and

1256
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 6: the President has now made an appointment to replace her.

1257
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 3: Let's see it.

1258
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 15: Got a chance today. You can either continue to lie

1259
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 15: or you can correct the record.

1260
01:05:58,480 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 5: You have never had.

1261
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 15: The current is to look me in the eye and

1262
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 15: tell me that the assault was justified. So today you'll

1263
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 15: have your chance today. I'll give you that chance to

1264
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 15: clear the record. Tell it to my face if that's

1265
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 15: what you believe, tell it to me today. Tell the

1266
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 15: world why you believe I deserve to be assaulted from behind,

1267
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 15: have six ribs broken and a damage lung. Tell me

1268
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 15: to my face why you think I deserved it. And

1269
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,680
Speaker 15: while you're at it, explained to the American public why

1270
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 15: they should trust a man with anger issues to set

1271
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 15: the proper example for ice and Border Patrol agents. Explain

1272
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 15: to the American public how a man who has no

1273
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 15: regrets about brawling in a Senate committee can set a

1274
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 15: proper example for over two hundred and fifty thousand men

1275
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 15: and women who work at the Department of Homeland Security.

1276
01:06:44,680 --> 01:06:47,040
Speaker 15: Senator Peters, you're recognized for your opening comment.

1277
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Speaker 6: So for those of you who all listening and weren't watching,

1278
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 6: that was Senator Ram Paul, who is the chairman of

1279
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 6: the committee that Mark Mullen is being first screen through.

1280
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 6: And Mark Mullen is a Republican Senator. Mark Mark Wayne's

1281
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:07,960
Speaker 6: Mark Wayne one word. He wants to be called his

1282
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 6: middle name, and I'm just going to forego it. Uh,

1283
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 6: you know, these John Wayne types, I just can't take it.

1284
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 6: Mark Mullen from Oklahoma, Republican Senator who just a couple

1285
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 6: of months ago challenged a witness before his Senate committee

1286
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 6: to a fight during the hearing. This is a US senator,

1287
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:36,360
Speaker 6: sitting senator challenged an individual testifying before the committee to

1288
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 6: a fight. You want to take it outside. I don't

1289
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 6: know if you have that clip, but y'all got to

1290
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 6: just just google it and you'll find it. This is

1291
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 6: now the guy white mess Yeah, wants to take all

1292
01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 6: that energy, all that tustosterone on out on the people

1293
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 6: of America through the Department of Homeland Security. I don't

1294
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 6: think we can take it, but I love to hear

1295
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:57,600
Speaker 6: your thoughts.

1296
01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark Wayn Mullen is about to be the leader

1297
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: of Ice. We've talked about the show in the Department

1298
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: of Homeland Security for a very long period of time.

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01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: He comes to us. He took over his, uh, his

1300
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 1: father's plumbing business and made it a multi multi multi

1301
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 1: million dollar plumbing business. He then went to the United

1302
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: States House of Representatives. He has this kind of unique

1303
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,759
Speaker 1: distinction of being the first Native American I believe, elected

1304
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: to the United States Congress from from Oklahoma.

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01:08:28,120 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Native Americans as defined by or.

1306
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Speaker 1: He is an enrolled citizen of the Cherokee Nation in

1307
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: one of four Native Americans serving in the one hundred.

1308
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:49,679
Speaker 2: And nineteen Contress.

1309
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:52,559
Speaker 1: He is the first Native American elected Senator to Congress

1310
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:56,280
Speaker 1: since been Nighthorse Campbell retired in two thousand and five.

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01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,799
Speaker 2: I know Native mayor everybody.

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01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,559
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you so.

1313
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 8: You know they don't let negroes enroll in some of

1314
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 8: these tribes.

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01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 2: He's enrolled. But who is his daddy?

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Speaker 6: I think New York Times exposed, Wow.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 8: It is the Native Americans react to Senator Mark Wayne's.

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Speaker 1: Look at that. But I want people to go through.

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Speaker 1: I want people to go through and actually look at

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Speaker 1: the hearing today. Look at uh, look at all the

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Speaker 1: chaos is being caused by people who are leading our agencies.

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Speaker 1: And the reason I say this, and and we we'll

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Speaker 1: we'll kind of get the cause of action. But the

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Speaker 1: reason I say this is because of the simple fact

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Speaker 1: that during the time of war, when our grids are exposed,

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Speaker 1: when our financial institutions are exposed, I do not trust

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Speaker 1: Tossy Gabbert. I do not trust uh, what's the guy's

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Speaker 1: name who can't who don't see straight.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is really not We are so out of

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Speaker 2: line on.

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Speaker 1: And I do not trust and I do not trust

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Speaker 1: Mark Wayne Mullen. And so as we get to our

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Speaker 1: calls to action.

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Speaker 8: Did you see cash Mattel got some air Force ones

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Speaker 8: done with stuff?

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Speaker 1: That man so happy man, that man flying from Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Wait, I need to put that into reader's notes.

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Speaker 8: You guys have to see his air force his custom

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Speaker 8: air Force one.

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure we get to our calls

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Speaker 1: to action.

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Speaker 17: Who cares about truth in the last morning seen it?

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Speaker 1: For those individuals. We have a special new guest joining

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Speaker 1: us today. New guest host joining us today, Garrison. And

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Speaker 1: then maybe you can lead us off with your call

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Speaker 1: to action.

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Speaker 7: Well, first of all, this was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 7: I appreciate what you guys do. I hope people are

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Speaker 7: subscribed to this show and subscribe to the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 7: Yeah I did that. Okay, my thing my call to action.

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Speaker 7: You should go subscribe to Capital B News. We talked

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Speaker 7: a lot about media and news and media literacy and

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Speaker 7: Capital B that Capital B is like standing for a

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Speaker 7: black Capital B is a newsroom that focuses on black issues.

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Speaker 7: I'm not affiliated with them, but I love the work

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Speaker 7: that they do. They have a bureau, they have a

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Speaker 7: newsroom in Atlanta one and Gary, Indiana, and I love

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Speaker 7: their reporting on rural issues. So if your local news

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Speaker 7: isn't up to par the way it should be, and

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Speaker 7: you're looking for places to get news that's about black

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Speaker 7: people and what's going on in Black America, I think

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Speaker 7: Capital b is really really useful and a really good

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Speaker 7: place to go. So that's my call to action. Go

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Speaker 7: check them out, read new support them if you can,

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Speaker 7: because they're really really important in this time.

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Speaker 6: I'm going to go right after you, Garrison, and simply

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Speaker 6: say follow Garrison. The brother is brilliant. He gives you

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Speaker 6: information in a digestible way, and it don't take too long,

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Speaker 6: and it's coming from me, so believe me, it doesn't

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Speaker 6: take too long for you to get the concept, understand it,

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Speaker 6: embrace it or rejected, and keep it moving. He was

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Speaker 6: very great, how should we say? He was very generous

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Speaker 6: with his time referring you to another source, But I

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Speaker 6: think we ought to do this for the solid His

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Speaker 6: handles were listed at the top of the show, and

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Speaker 6: we'll make sure they're in the show notes as well.

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Speaker 5: And welcome home, Garrison.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna piggyback because I think mine kind of goes

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Speaker 1: after the three or something I was thinking about earlier

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Speaker 1: when Garrison talked about independent journalism, Definitely go subscribe to

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Speaker 1: Capital b Andrew's point followed Garrison, I might also say,

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Speaker 1: all of us have local newspapers in our community. We

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Speaker 1: know them, We know the reporters. They probably got one

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Speaker 1: reporter that's been there since before you were born. You

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Speaker 1: know who it is. You know who that person is. Look,

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Speaker 1: the subscriptions don't cost, right, but you know you're talking

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Speaker 1: twenty dollars a month. That's not even I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: not even an Applebee's appetizer. Right. Just go out and

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Speaker 1: subscribe to these local news censors because they are starting,

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Speaker 1: they are dying, and they need us and we need them. Angela.

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Speaker 8: I'm wearing my call to action today. It says vote Vote.

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Speaker 8: The reason why that is my call to action for

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Speaker 8: today is because many of you all know that the

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Speaker 8: Save Act is on the Senate floor.

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Speaker 2: They got through culture and now they will debate it.

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Speaker 8: We are at an it's frankly an existential crisis, or

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Speaker 8: we're facing our mini pod my solo pod rather was

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Speaker 8: on this on Tuesday, I have Vince Evans on and

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Speaker 8: we talked about the path forward. I know we always

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Speaker 8: tell you how to call your senators, this really is

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Speaker 8: the time. If you have a grandparent who doesn't have

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Speaker 8: a birth certificate that meets these standards, If you have

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Speaker 8: family members who don't have passports because they can never

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Speaker 8: afford to travel internationally, now is the time to say something.

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Speaker 8: What they are requiring of us is akin to counting

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Speaker 8: the bubbles in a bar of So if people don't

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Speaker 8: have access to the ballot box because they cannot afford

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Speaker 8: to pay this poll tax, you've got to say something.

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Speaker 8: Maybe you don't want to exercise your franchise. I don't

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Speaker 8: think that you want to have to exist in this

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Speaker 8: space where you can't, you know, execute the vote. And

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Speaker 8: so that's the point for me right now, I think

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Speaker 8: I was saying I can't remember if I said it

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Speaker 8: on this shore, if I just said it to friends,

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Speaker 8: But I remember how often Reverend Jackson would end his

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Speaker 8: call cause and response with voting, and I would be

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Speaker 8: so irritated, like we got that, And I just don't

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Speaker 8: think I had a sense for how fragile that was.

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Speaker 8: So I apologize to all of you for every moment

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Speaker 8: that I took for granted. And given that this is

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Speaker 8: this country's two hundred and fiftieth anniversary.

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Speaker 2: Let us know go, let us not return to its

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Speaker 2: ugly pass.

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Speaker 1: special shout out to Garrison Hayes. Yeah, thank you, thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us here. I know time is one

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Speaker 1: By the way, I'm about to go to in and Out.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna find me in and out just so all

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Speaker 1: the Bokars can do the same thing. There are two

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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty nine days until midterm elections. And Angela

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