1 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,319 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I and Mike Spofford, joined as always 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: by my partner in crime, Wes Hodkowitz. We're coming to 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: you hear from our studios at lambeau Field, and Wes, 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: we are here to talk about a victory. Twenty to three. 6 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: The Packers defeat the Los Angeles Rams at Lambeoufield on Sunday. 7 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: It breaks the four game losing streak, It gets the 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Packers record to three and five, and a lot of 9 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: positives to talk about from this one. Certainly, not a 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: clean game, not a pretty game. Plenty for the Packers 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: to work on. But when it comes to the things 12 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: that went well, I'll let you take it where you 13 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: want to. If you want to start on offense, defense 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: or special teams, you pick it. Let's go. 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 2: Let's start with Pahad. All right, let's start with this thing, 16 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 2: because I was breaking down the game as only I 17 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: can with my father afterwards, the original Packers on Scripted 18 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: and one of the big lessons I took away from this, 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought up the fact it wasn't a 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 2: complete game. It wasn't a clean game. There's still things 21 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,919 Speaker 2: to clean up with it, but the Green Bay Packers 22 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: finally get to do that now after a win. It 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: feels different when you do that after a win. When 24 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: you make mistakes, you overcome them, but you find ways forward. Yes, 25 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: I know the Los Angeles Rams didn't have Matthew Stafford. 26 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 2: I know they were missing their starting running back. I 27 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 2: know there was a lot of things working against the Rams. 28 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: The Green Bay Packers have had plenty working against them 29 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 2: too this season, including in this matchup. I mean, how 30 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: often is it, Mike, that the Green Bay Packers are 31 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 2: going to practice on Thursday and Friday and they lose 32 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 2: a starter after each of those basically where you end 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: up not having those guys available in Rudy Ford and 34 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 2: Kuway Walker. So what happens, what has to happen. Guys 35 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 2: have to step up. Isaiah McDuffie, I thought played a 36 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 2: whale of a ballgame next to Devondre Campbell Dre being back, 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 2: I don't that is a surprise that the run defense 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 2: is playing as well as it has since Campbell got 39 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,639 Speaker 2: back in the lineup. On the back end, you lose 40 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: a guy like Ford who's been one of the big 41 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 2: playmakers for this team so far this season. But in 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: comes Anthony Johnson Junior, the rookie seventh round pick from 43 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 2: Iowa State who's been playing the position for just over 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 2: a calendar year. He makes a critical interception late jyr 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: Alexander gets over the back injury. He's making plays out there. 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: Carrington Valentine has to be thrown into the perimeter starting 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: corner position with Rasul Douglas's trade, and then if that 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: wasn't enough, Mike the only position where it seemed like 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,959 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers were actually good on the defensive line. 50 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: They lose their two time Pro bowler Kenny Clark at 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: the end of the first quarter. There's a lot to 52 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 2: talk about, there's a lot to dissect, but defensively, the 53 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers rolled with the bunches better than what 54 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 2: the Rams offense was able to do. And Mike, they 55 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 2: only gave up three points. And I said it to 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: you one of the first comments I made when I 57 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: came into the on Monday. I looked at NFLGSIS Green 58 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 2: Bay Packers defense going from twentieth to tenth. It's not 59 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 2: the end of the season, a lot of games left, 60 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 2: but it should remind you that in this game in 61 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: the National Football League, things can change in a hurry, 62 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: and the Green Bay Packers made sure to take advantage 63 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: of that opportunity on Sunday. 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you really had to like what you saw from 65 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: the defense. And yes, it was against a backup quarterback 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: and Brett Rippon who was a bit overmatched. And as 67 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: we had talked about last week, the Rams were trying 68 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: to figure out something with their running game. With losing 69 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: Kyron Williams, their leading rusher, he remained on injured reserve. 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: They're trying to piece it together with a running game. 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: They were missing their starting right tackle and Rob Havenstein 72 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: who was a scratch at the ninety minutes before kickoff 73 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: with his injury, and the Packers defense. The Packers defense 74 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: did what it needed to do. It looked like it 75 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: needed to look in this type of matchup. And you 76 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: can't say enough about the young guys who made some 77 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: things happen out there. You already mentioned a couple of them, 78 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: with Anthony Johnson Junior stepping in at safety, with Carrington 79 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: Valentine stepping in at cornerback, Carl Brooks and Kolby wooden't 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: on the defensive line the two rookies there, Brooks deflects 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: a couple of passes. Wooden gets a stop on fourth 82 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: and two when the Rams were trying to keep a 83 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: drive alive. You mentioned McDuffie stepping in for kuay Walker, 84 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: and he stepped in previously for Devondre Campbell. Now he 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: was stepping in for kway Walker two weeks in a row. 86 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: Now wes the Packers run defense, and yes, against a 87 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: Vikings offense that was struggling to run the ball, against 88 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: a Rams offense that was struggling to run the ball, 89 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: but the Packers kept those teams struggling. And those are 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: things that over the last couple of years. Sometimes that 91 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: hasn't always been the case, where you go, okay, you 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: should be all right here because this team doesn't do 93 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: this very well, and then suddenly the profile changes. If 94 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: the Packers defense can continue to do what it's done 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks against the run, even if 96 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: maybe the rushing yards might increase against teams that run 97 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: the ball better, but when you're not getting gashed against 98 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: the run, it makes everything else look a heck of 99 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot better. 100 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 2: And last week ten third down conversions, this week three 101 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Five third down conversions. I sounded so tough 102 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: when I was saying that too, and then I'd botch it. 103 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: But it shows you that, yeah, there's gonna be some 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: third and long completions. Certainly the Packers had some stuff 105 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: to clean up after that game against Minnesota, but if 106 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: you get the job done on the first two downs, 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: it will pay off on the money down. This game, 108 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 2: in particular, I thought was really interesting Mike, because, as 109 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: you said, you had to keep them struggling. I think 110 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 2: back to that game in Vegas, Raiders were really struggling 111 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: with the run game. Yes, you think back to this 112 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: past week the Raiders win, still struggling with the run 113 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: game somewhat. What was the two differences in that they 114 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: were able to run the ball well with Josh Jacobs 115 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: that it made a difference. The twenty four yard carry 116 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: Jacobs had against Green Bay made a difference. Last week 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 2: what he did against the Bears made a difference, and 118 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 2: it tilted the game. Brett Rippen, what he wanted more 119 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 2: than anything was for LA to establish the run and 120 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: be able to build off the rest of it from there. 121 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 2: Green Bay gave no quarter in this game. It didn't 122 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: matter if it was the runs. It didn't matter if 123 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: it was some of the simple screens that they were 124 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: trying to run, whether it was Puka, whether it was 125 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: Cooper Cup. They were unable to get that going. They 126 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: made a couple of plays throughout the course of the game, 127 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: but by and large Green Bay was able to dictate 128 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: how they wanted to play, and in addition to that, 129 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 2: they got two big takeaway opportunities. The green Bay Packers 130 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 2: converted both of those into points and ultimately came out 131 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: with the victory. 132 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, the thing that the thing that I liked, in 133 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,840 Speaker 1: addition to the run defense, the other thing I liked 134 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: about the way the defense looked in this game is that, 135 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: yes it was against a backup quarterback, but you and 136 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: I watched the games from the press box, we can 137 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: see the entire field, and other than the one third 138 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: and long conversion that Rippin hit to Cooper Cup down 139 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: the scene, it was not as though we were watching 140 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: two very good receivers in Cup and Puka Nakua running 141 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: free there in the secondary and Rippin just couldn't get 142 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: them the ball. You know, Rippin couldn't get them the 143 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 1: ball because the Packers were making it difficult for those 144 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: guys to get open. And I thought with all the 145 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: adjustments that were being made in the secondary because of 146 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: the injuries, because of the trade of Douglas and all that, 147 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: I thought that was a really positive sign moving forward 148 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: for this Packer secondary because you know, whenever, you know, 149 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: assuming Rudy Ford is not going to be out long term, 150 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: assuming that kay Walker's not going to be out long term, 151 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: but getting these young guys experience, then you know the 152 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: next time, the next time that something happens, even if 153 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: it's during a game and somebody has to miss one 154 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,559 Speaker 1: series like John Runyan misses one series on offense, Sean 155 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: Ryan steps in at right guy and the Packers go 156 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: forty one yards for a touchdown, most of it on 157 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,559 Speaker 1: the ground and some of it running right behind Sean Ryan, 158 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: who just came off the bench and stepped in for 159 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 1: some of his first NFL action. Those kinds of things 160 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: are important signs to see with a young team moving forward, 161 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: and I thought we saw a lot of them on 162 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball in this game. 163 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 2: And while Carrington doesn't need a mentor someone to look at, 164 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: you know, Anthony Johnson Jr. Has talked about all these 165 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 2: safeties he's learned from. But if there was actually a 166 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 2: kind of a poster child for this, I actually think 167 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: it is Isaiah McDuffie because this is a guy that 168 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 2: came in as a six round pick two years ago 169 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: and Mike every single time he plays on defense, he's 170 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: gotten better. And I thought in this game it was 171 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 2: pretty simple what they had to do. You had Campbell 172 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 2: taken over the mic again, he's relaying the defense, but 173 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: you saw McDuffie being so much more active out their vocal. 174 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: He made some big TFLs too. I think that five 175 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: yard tackle for a loss that he had was probably 176 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 2: as important as anything in that game for to pack 177 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: defense being able to stop them right from the get go. 178 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 2: I think in the third quarter they have had guys 179 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:09,679 Speaker 2: step up. And when you do that consistently and you 180 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: play that role and you wear that hat numerous times, 181 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 2: you feel like a more confident football player when you 182 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: have to go in. And I thought, for the Packers defense, 183 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: you hope everything's cool with Kui here. He caught up 184 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 2: a little tight on Friday morning. He wasn't able to 185 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 2: get right with that groin injury going into this thing. 186 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: But the Packers have guys they can turn to, and 187 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: ultimately I think that's what helped them win this football game. 188 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, on the offensive side of the ball, a 189 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: much more uneven performance. You know, there were plenty of 190 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: the miscues that we have seen in recent weeks that 191 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: have gotten frustrating quite frankly, for the fans, for the coaches, 192 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: for the players, for everybody, whether you know, for whatever reason. 193 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: It's a discussion for another day, But like this lining 194 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: up off sides on fourth and one thing that suddenly 195 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: the league has decided apparently that they're going to call 196 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: every every inch of the neutral zone in that regard. 197 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: But even setting those aside, which were crucial penalties because 198 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: the Packers had converted both of those fourth and one sneaks, 199 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: but there were other penalties. There were the two fumbles, 200 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: one by Dontavian Wicks, one by Aaron Jones. There were 201 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: missed opportunities to put points on the board earlier in 202 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: the game, to try to stretch out the lead earlier 203 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: in the game, whether it's you know, Malik Heath dropped 204 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: a pass, Jordan Love took a sack on you know, 205 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: a play where there was good protection and in that situation, 206 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: late in the first half. You can't take a sack 207 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: there and you know, and and hurt yourself. Andras Carlson 208 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: unfortunately missed a field goal at the end of the 209 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 1: first half. So there were there's there's a lot of 210 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: stuff that the Packers are going to be looking at 211 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: this week to continue to clean up moving forward. That 212 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: being said, the offense got a touchdown in the first 213 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: half for the first time since Week two. They found 214 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: the end zone. The ground game with Aaron Jones back 215 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: to a a full complement of snaps, not being held 216 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: back on a pitch count, whatever you want to say. 217 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones was a focal point of this offense, and 218 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: between Jones and Dylan and then some clean up yards 219 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: late from Emmanuel Wilson, the ground game churned out over 220 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty rushing yards. And so how does 221 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: this happen, Wes, Well, it's because it's because even with 222 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: the mistakes that were made and the opportunities that were missed, 223 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: the Packers weren't playing in some desperation ketchup mode two 224 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: minute hurry up offense for the entire second half. Matt 225 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: Lafleur made the comment on Monday, they were in their 226 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: normal offensive plan throughout the course of the game, and 227 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: the vast majority of the mistakes were made in the 228 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: first half beginning of the second half, and then when 229 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 1: they started to find themselves, it wasn't just because they 230 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: were in desperation hurry up mode. It's because they started 231 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: to execute and they started to move the ball consistently. 232 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, you don't want to settle for two field 233 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: goals in the red zone there in the second half, 234 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: but you had to take those field goals because the 235 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: score was only seven to three. You stretch it to 236 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: thirteen to three, you get a two score lead. Lots 237 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: still for the offense to work on. But the fact 238 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: that they got to play a four quarter game off 239 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: of the call sheet, so to speak. I think that's 240 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: something that could be really important for this for this 241 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: young offense moving forward. 242 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: I wholeheartedly agree. And for the Packers' offense. I don't 243 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 2: know the statistics, but you can make an argument that 244 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,079 Speaker 2: might have been one of their worst third quarters, if 245 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: not their worst third quarter of the season. But why 246 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: did they survive? Yeah, they got that touchdown in the 247 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: second quarter that certainly helped. Yeah, but it was also 248 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 2: the way the defense picked them up there it. Don 249 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: Caper's always called it adversity defense. Matt Lafleur threw a 250 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: different one out on I can't remember what he called 251 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 2: it of have to look it up, but. 252 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Capers also used to call it a sudden change 253 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: sudden change defense as well, like he would use both. 254 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: He would use both terms. But yes, the Packers' defense 255 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: responded in a couple of tough when the game was 256 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: just seven to three in the third quarter and could 257 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: have flipped, could have turned the other direction. The Packers 258 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: defense didn't allow that to happen, which allowed the offense 259 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 1: to find itself. 260 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: And the coolest thing that happened. I mentioned it on Twitter, 261 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:18,359 Speaker 2: I know. Aaron Nagler tweeted out the video. Two. Dantavian 262 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: Wicks has just a rookie mistake, just a regrettable gaff 263 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: to start the second half. Get a fifty one yard 264 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: kickoff return from Keyshawn Nixon, the longest of the season. 265 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: You're starting at midfield. Yep, the Packers have the most 266 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: dominant third quarter offense in the league. Right now, you 267 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 2: think everything's going to be going swimmingly, Wix ends up 268 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: fumbling trying to extend for the first down, doesn't get 269 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 2: touched down, so the ball ends up being rolled to fumble. 270 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: He's walking to the sideline, his head is down. Aaron 271 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: Jones quite literally pulls his head back up and talks 272 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: to him. Yeah, the next series happens, starts raining a 273 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,599 Speaker 2: little bit. Maybe Aaron doesn't have the right gloves on 274 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: at that point. Be that as it may. He fumbles, 275 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: they lose. The amount of guys that were coming over 276 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: to him on the sideline lift them up. A team 277 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 2: that doesn't have a solid foundation, doesn't have a culture, 278 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: has a pointing fingers mentality. I don't know what happens 279 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, right, but the green Bay Packers 280 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 2: kept their head amongst themselves defensively, I think they were 281 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: feeling dominant and they executed the way they needed to execute. 282 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 2: And best of all, Mike, what I love the most 283 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 2: to close on this offensive point, you were talking about 284 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: how they stayed within the game plan from beginning to end. 285 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: I would offer to you the touchdown passed to Luke 286 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: Musgrave in the fourth quarter doesn't happen if Green Bay 287 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: isn't building towards what they were doing earlier in the game. 288 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: The pony package was back on that particular play to Musgrave. 289 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 2: They have Jones going out left, they have a screen 290 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 2: set up to Dylan on the right. They're challenging those 291 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: linebackers that to make a decision with where they're going 292 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 2: to cover, and when the inside linebacker breaks, that's what 293 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: opens up the sea for Luke Musgrave. Musgrave made two 294 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 2: huge catches in this game. The touchdown was one of them. 295 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Downfield pass was also one of those plays that him 296 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: and Love weren't connecting on earlier this season. Three catches, 297 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 2: fifty one yards and his first touchdown. Packers closed this 298 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: game out the way they need to close it, and 299 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: you hope that's something they can build on now. 300 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that final touchdown drive. The other thing I 301 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: mean that the double fake screen and the slip of 302 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: Musgrave over the middle. That's the thing of beauty. It's 303 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: actually it's one of my bonus plays in what you 304 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: might have missed, which is on the site, I kind 305 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: of diagram. 306 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: Gave some extra to the fans. 307 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of diagram what to look for on 308 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: the defense in terms of how that happens. Because it's 309 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: really interesting because you have you have the two inside 310 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: linebackers who are in the middle of the field. When 311 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones goes in that looping motion behind the shotgun quarterback, 312 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: those guys start to shift toward Jones. Then at the snap, 313 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: with the lineman and aj Dillon leaking out the other 314 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: way to set up a screen, they both over commit 315 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: to the other way and then to Muskgrave's credit, and 316 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: this is kind of something that Matt Lafleur had talked 317 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: about in the past in terms of learning the nuances 318 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: and the timing of everything, Musgrave sells his block on 319 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: the edge rusher long enough to allow those linebackers to commit, 320 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: and then he slips in behind him if he if 321 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: he gets over anxious, which young players do. Jaden Reed 322 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: got over anxious in the slot and fall started when 323 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: he was going to get the slant pass at the 324 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: end of the first half. It happens right if they 325 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: get If you get over anxious and you blow the 326 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: timing of it, you're not going to be as open. 327 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: And that's a much tougher throw for Jordan Love and 328 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: it probably doesn't, you know, rupture into into a touchdown. 329 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: But with everything happening, he timed it right and the 330 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: two deep safeties. They're so concerned about seeing two running 331 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: backs both split and two wide receivers both split, that 332 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: the two deep deep safeties kind of open things up 333 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: as well, and that's what leaves leaves that lane for 334 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave to score. The other thing before that, I 335 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: think that was really important, though, was the thirty seven 336 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 1: yard catch by Christian Watson. I mean not just for Love, 337 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: not just for Watson, but for this entire offense to 338 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: make an explosive play like that in an important situation. 339 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: It was on a third down. The score is thirteen 340 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: to three at that point, so ten point game. You know, 341 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, the game is certainly not over 342 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 1: at that point. There are all kinds of metrics out there. 343 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: We've talked about it, Wes. With regard to the Packers 344 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: haven't made those plays for Jordan Love, for this offense, 345 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: the contested catches haven't been there. Christian Watson made a 346 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: heck of a one that looked like the Christian Watson 347 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: who was making his share of contested catches as a 348 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: rookie when he went on that scoring binge last November. 349 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things when you talk when 350 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: you talk about building and growing and stacking and everything 351 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: that you want to say about about all the young 352 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: players on this offense with a first year starting quarterback. 353 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: Those are the kinds of things that just, I mean, 354 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 1: you can't You're not gonna be able to replicate it 355 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: every single week. I mean, it's a it's a deep 356 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 1: ball downfield, it's a one on one play, Christian Watson 357 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: went up and made it. But it's the it's the 358 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: kind of thing that just it It provides a foundation, 359 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, psychologically, there's a there's a confidence level to 360 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: everybody when those plays get made every once in a 361 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 1: while instead of every time that deep ball goes up 362 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: and it's a contested play and then oh it's incomplete 363 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: and everybody kind of sighs like, oh, it didn't work 364 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 1: that time. Right. Those are the kinds of things that 365 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 1: we saw in this game that hopefully the Packers can 366 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: build on them push things forward, because, as we're going 367 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: to talk about on our next show, the competition is 368 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 1: the competition on the schedule is getting stiffer here over 369 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: the next month, and the Packers are going to have 370 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: to play better than they did against the Rams if 371 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: they want to stack another victory to chalk up another one. 372 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: But it feels like they have so much more to 373 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: build on now. 374 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 2: They do. And for that particular play for Jordan and Christian, 375 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 2: I think is important because yeah, everyone looks at the 376 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 2: speed and the vertical and all that stuff, but Christian 377 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: Watson just went and made a football play, got a 378 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 2: little banged up on it. It sounds like from what 379 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 2: Matt Lafore said on Monday, he is okay, no concussion. 380 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: But I love the way he played that ball, in 381 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: the aggressiveness he showed because I think Christian Watson knows 382 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 2: he's six foot four, two hundred and eight pounds or whatever, 383 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 2: but he made the defense back feel it on that play, yep. 384 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: And understanding that hey, if I'm this big of a 385 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 2: human being and I can have a vertical in that 386 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 2: forty range or whatever he's at, I can get up 387 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 2: there and make that play. I think that's what makes 388 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: them special. And for the Packers last sale, just close 389 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: on this another reminder two of what Romeo Dobbs gives 390 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: this offense. Because Dobbs' stats are not going to jump 391 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 2: off the page at you, but he was just as 392 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: integral to that win with some of the third down 393 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: plays he made, some of the plays he made when 394 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: Jordan Love needed to get the ball to him. And 395 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't think there's a better pass catcher on this 396 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 2: team right now than Romeo Dobbs. 397 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:01,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he's been, he's certainly been been the most reliable. 398 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: And yes, some of the third downplays he made in 399 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: this game where we're highlight reel worthy. For sure. I'll 400 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: take care of sponsor business here West before we run 401 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: out of time. Serious XMNFL Radio delivers hard to hear 402 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: and a hard hitting analysis and up to the minute 403 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: NFL news that true football fanatics need twenty four to seven, 404 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: three sixty five and had cousin subs. We have something 405 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: for everyone like our Wisconsin cheese curds, mac and cheese, 406 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: golden fries, and creamy shakes, all paired with your favorite 407 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: sub or submon a bowl cousin subs, fifty years of 408 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: better quickly before we go, just taking a look around. 409 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: We talked last Thursday heading into the weekend of how 410 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: many really intriguing big matchups there were in the NFL 411 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: in Week nine, and as it turned out, it was 412 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: the home team's holding serve in all these big matchups. 413 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens really took it to the Seattle Seahawks. 414 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: The Philadelphia Eagles defended their home turf against the Dallas Cowboys. 415 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: The Cowboys going from what was it, first and goal 416 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: on the six yard line with twenty seven seconds to 417 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: go and a chance to win, they go from that 418 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: to throwing basically like a hail Mary to try to 419 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,880 Speaker 1: win the I mean, it was just an incredible, hard, 420 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: incredibly bad sequence when they had a chance to post 421 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,400 Speaker 1: a big time victory and the Cincinnati Bengals hold serve 422 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,920 Speaker 1: at home over the Buffalo Bills in a big matchup 423 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: in the AFC. Home field doesn't always, but this past week, 424 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: homefield mattered. In the NFL, it definitely did. 425 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 2: And as I forecasted on Thursday's episode, you can go 426 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 2: back and look at it. I told everybody Tampa Bay 427 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: and Houston, man, this is a must see television game. 428 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 2: Wherever you are, sit your children down watch it. It's 429 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 2: gonna be the best game of the season. And lo 430 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 2: and behold that's how it turned out. But no, I mean, 431 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 2: c J. Stroud, I mean that's a Rookie of the 432 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: Year type performance, and. 433 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 1: I mean broke the NFL rookie record for passing yards 434 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: in a game. I mean they Holy cow. 435 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 2: You know how I was talking with Rippin about how 436 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: he was hoping that you get the run game going. 437 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 2: Stroud did not have that. Texans could not run the 438 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: football against Tampa's defense. It was all on the rookie 439 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: and he performed like a top draft pick. An exciting 440 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: football game. The former Packers running back Badger's. 441 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: Yes Starry a Goobawale. He made a field goal, made 442 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: the the yeah had to step in for the injured kicker, 443 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: and drilled the twenty nine yarder, which and hey, that 444 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: was in the second half, Like there was there was 445 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: a lot, there was a lot of the line on 446 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: that kick, and a goomble Walle put it through, no 447 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: doubt her. 448 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, but just quickly, You're absolutely right about the home 449 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: field advantage and everything. The Baltimore Ravens just ran over Seattle. 450 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: That was incredible to watch. But I want to touch 451 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: on this because I think this is important for Packer 452 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,920 Speaker 2: fans to realize the vikings. In one of the situations 453 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: where the home team didn't come through, Josh Dobbs shows up, 454 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 2: you know, minutes before the game. 455 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: Unbelievable plays is hard out. 456 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: I mean some of the stuff that they were saying 457 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: in terms of how Kevin O'Connell was relaying the play 458 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: calls and basically having to explain the play calls yeah 459 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: to do and then him, you know, just doing some 460 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: incredible stuff to make plays happy. 461 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: Well, and and the fact that he did that, all 462 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: the plays that he made in the second half to 463 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 1: pull that game out for the Vikings. When you look 464 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: at the highlights of that game when he first came 465 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: in and during the it was a disaster. They were 466 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: turning the ball over. The Falcons simply couldn't get any 467 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: touchdowns off of those turnovers. They kept kicking field goals 468 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: and kept the Vikings in the game. And then when 469 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: Dobbs kind of settled down and you know, stopped, you know, 470 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,479 Speaker 1: stop putting the ball in harm's way the way he 471 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,560 Speaker 1: was early on, and got the Vikings offense moving, then 472 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: suddenly they pull it out at the end. I mean, 473 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: absolutely incredible, incredible victory by the Minnesota Vikings, and it 474 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: looks like they've found their quarterback for the rest of 475 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three seasons. 476 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 2: And seeing where it takes them this year. But just 477 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: very quickly. I mean, you have two juggernauts. I would 478 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 2: say right now in the NFC, you got failing, you 479 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: got Detroit Detroit. You give him the credit for winning 480 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: the games. They're already at six wins. It may only 481 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 2: take nine to make the playoffs. And this thing be fewer. 482 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 2: We'll see. But with the with the Vikings beating the Falcons, 483 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: with the Saints a very methodical victory over Chicago, they're 484 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 2: now atop their division. Dallas loses again, they're at five 485 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 2: and three. You have the forty nine ers at five 486 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 2: or three. This is a wide open field right now. 487 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 2: In the NFC. I know you don't talk about playoffs 488 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: until you get to ten wins. I stick to Mike 489 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: McCarthy's old apps. You know, it's maximum on. 490 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: That bobbly in the seventeen game season. Now you can 491 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: say nine. 492 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 2: Nine probably works. Yeah, but be that as it may. 493 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Seventh playoff spot. I should say, as well. 494 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but I mean be that as it may. 495 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 2: I think it's another reminder that Packers have played good football. 496 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 2: They played bad football. They are what their record says 497 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 2: they are. But my goodness, it only takes a couple 498 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,400 Speaker 2: of weeks to pull yourself back into this thing, especially 499 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 2: in the age Now that seventh playoff game. 500 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, well, the Packers have a big one to 501 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: see if they can actually start a winning streak heading 502 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, a team that is very intriguing. We will 503 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,959 Speaker 1: talk lot about the Steelers on our next show. They 504 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,879 Speaker 1: are having one of the more interesting, head scratching yet 505 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: intriguing seasons that we've seen an NFL team have in 506 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: quite some time, and we will definitely get to that 507 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: on our next episode, but for now, we'll call it 508 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: a rap. On this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure 509 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: to follow all of our coverage of the team. Lots 510 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: of content review of the previous game we'll have previewing 511 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: the next game coming up. Lots of stuff for you 512 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: this week on Packers dot com for Wes, I'm Mike. 513 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: Thank you for tuning in, everybody. We will see you 514 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: next time.