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Speaker 1: What is up, Mets fans? Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets The podcast just wrapped up a three

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Speaker 1: game series out in Oakland. Mets swept. Yes, you heard

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Speaker 1: it correct. The Mets swept a series from a very

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Speaker 1: very very bad Oakland A's team.

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Speaker 2: A lot of great things happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Mets broke a franchise record in game one,

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Speaker 1: Game two, little comeback victory in game three. It was

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Speaker 1: a little bit getting down to the wire, but some

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Speaker 1: really good stuff there. James, how you been feeling been

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Speaker 1: able to watch these games out in California? So you've

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Speaker 1: been like local time for this one.

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Speaker 2: I am local time for this one. I'm recording from

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Speaker 2: sunny Los Angeles right now. A playa mar mar Vista.

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Speaker 2: Mar Vista thinks, a neighborhood called this is where I

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Speaker 2: am is called. Shout out my friend Tommy for the

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Speaker 2: wonderful hospitality and recording in the most la thing in

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Speaker 1: Of course, we do want to address just something right

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Speaker 1: off the rip. There's been some rumors and some tweets

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Speaker 1: or may not be happening. As you guys know, we

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Speaker 1: are the official podcast of the New York Mets, so

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Speaker 1: if or when something does become official, we will drop

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Speaker 1: an episode as soon as we can about whatever that

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Speaker 1: official news could or may be. But right now that

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Speaker 1: news is not official, so we will not be able

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Speaker 1: to address it on this episode. But just know the

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Speaker 1: content whenever something does become official, will be coming right

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Speaker 1: at you as soon as we possibly can.

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Speaker 2: So just wanted to get out in front of it

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Speaker 2: early so.

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Speaker 1: That everybody who's probably asking the questions in the comment section,

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Speaker 1: we're in the chat or on Twitter, you guys know

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Speaker 1: exactly where we stand on this right now. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good stuff to talk about in this

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Speaker 1: series Against the Oakland A's.

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Speaker 2: It was a very very weird series, I feel like,

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Speaker 2: to say the least super weird serious, I feel like,

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Speaker 2: top to bottom, it was just the fact that there

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Speaker 2: and then two other games where it was just totally

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Speaker 2: grinded out baseball. We saw We talked a lot like

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Speaker 2: the first, like the preview, about like how Shintaro Fujinami

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Speaker 2: and how good he can be, but the fact that

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Speaker 2: was really it was really funny thing to watch. We

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Speaker 2: even like play back when we're talking about last week,

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Speaker 2: how we're like, oh man, this Lindor the lefty swing.

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Speaker 2: He was crushing it from the left sides. Entire series,

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Speaker 2: Like a lot of the things that we thought were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Mets pretty much just had to

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Speaker 1: the end, but relatively speaking, like the A's didn't really

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Speaker 2: There was that moment during Sunday's game where what was it?

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Speaker 1: You texted in the group chat, You're like, man, I

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Speaker 1: the Theays are one of the bottom feeders in Major

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Speaker 1: League Baseball, so yeah, it's really great to get those

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Speaker 1: in baseball does it is that the Mets simply will

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it does kind of make that element of a

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna watch very closely when anyone plays the Brewers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we're gonna make sure that they get swept

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Speaker 1: these games for you guys, getting to start off with

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Speaker 1: Game one. All these games were chaos games, but Game

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Speaker 1: sheer and utter chaos. The Mets set a franchise record

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Speaker 1: with seventeen walks.

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Speaker 2: In a game.

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Speaker 1: Can I don't even remember a time where the Mets

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Speaker 2: in context, how rare a game with seventeen walks? Is?

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Speaker 2: The last time a team drew seventeen walks in the

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Speaker 2: game was the Arizona Diamondbacks on August twenty fourth, twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 2: I was just before our senior year of high school,

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Speaker 2: and this was against the Phillies. Do you want to

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Speaker 2: hear some of the names that were in this lineup? Dude?

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Speaker 1: I was literally just about to look it up and

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Speaker 2: Was he on the twenty thirteen Diamonbacks. I think that

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Speaker 2: A young Paul Goldschman was think third for the Diamondbacks.

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Speaker 2: Harrada Park got five hits. That's interesting. He must have

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Speaker 2: had a really good game. Not really, because this game

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Speaker 2: So through the nine innings only had nine of those walks,

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Speaker 2: The Yankees against the Washington Senators.

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Speaker 1: They don't even exist anymore. This is the Minnesota Twins.

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Speaker 2: No exactly. Yeah. Sherry Robertson led off for the Senators

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Speaker 2: you right now, wait for which team both of them?

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Speaker 2: I want to hear the names. Ali Reynolds defeated Paul

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Speaker 1: Classic matchup, right there, Someone named spec Shay gotta save

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Speaker 2: Buzz Dozer came in relief for the for the Senators.

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Speaker 2: He pitched the last five minute thirds innings. He gave

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, which okay, so you want to talk

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Speaker 1: about like eight runs on twelve hits the craziest. This

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Speaker 1: besides the seventeen walks. The Mets actually got out hit

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Speaker 1: by the A's in this one. The a said thirteen hits,

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Speaker 1: the Mets had eleven. Yet they've put up seventeen runs

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Speaker 1: at what the A's did on the pitching side. James

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Speaker 1: Kapellian walked seven, which is just an insane number for

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Speaker 1: sam mole, sam mole, what have mention? Zero walks? He

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Speaker 1: did a great job for this one. Then Hogan Harris,

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Speaker 1: There was a point where there was three innings played

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Speaker 1: in this game where the A's did not walk a

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Speaker 1: And then Jerry's Familia came in walked four and the

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Speaker 1: the A's walk seventeen batters in six That's I've never

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we will for a while. No,

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Speaker 2: it is. It is cool. All these walks happened. But

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Speaker 2: tie all these rallies together, and the biggest all of

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Speaker 2: them was Francisco Indoors Grand Slam which was so beautiful,

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Speaker 2: that left his swing looking good. He actually had a

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Speaker 2: comment that Ronnie said during Game three on Sunday that

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Speaker 2: Franciscal Indors set for the first time he feels balanced

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had a double as well in this game.

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Speaker 1: Seven RBI eyes for the lind Orks out there. This

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Speaker 1: is a big one to hang your hat on because

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Speaker 1: it was another fantastic game by our shortstop, by our

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Speaker 1: MVP candidate, by one of the best players in baseball.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Francisco Lindor for play and appreciate it. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: I mean, had a good game in this one. But

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Speaker 1: you could go down the line, Brandon Neimo a couple

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Speaker 1: of hard hit balls as well, a couple walks. I

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Speaker 1: feel like the funniest line for me was that Luis

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Speaker 1: Gum got on five times, three walks, two hard hit balls,

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Speaker 2: He did a great game and even to war the

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Speaker 2: West Bar had three balls and play over ninety nine

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Speaker 1: And I also think like the fact that the game

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was only six to three at that point

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Speaker 1: Listen, buck we trust buck Cup. Where's our buck cups?

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Speaker 1: Little thing here about game one, when does it get sticky,

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Speaker 2: Balls and play a little bit when you like you

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Speaker 2: Good guests.

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Speaker 1: Good, you've really been on fire with these guesses.

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Speaker 1: Overall, everyone should be excited, excited of what we've seen

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Speaker 2: And that's why we made that TikTok too.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it was Jackie Robinson Day, which I love

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Speaker 2: it's like lo lo lo, And if it was a

437
00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,480
Speaker 2: little low just to spit on it and leave it there.

438
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Speaker 2: But it was a lot a lot of sinkers down there,

439
00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:12,080
Speaker 2: a lot of change ups down there, a lot of

440
00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,440
Speaker 2: sliders that fell below the zone. Probably went through like

441
00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,680
Speaker 2: four or five pitches entire game above a hitter's belt.

442
00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,640
Speaker 2: And I think that is probably that's probably that's probably

443
00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,000
Speaker 2: met with him. Put it in a place where they

444
00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:23,800
Speaker 2: can't really kill you, and that's how you stay successful. Yeah,

445
00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,800
Speaker 2: kind of living living in the shadows a little bit, right,

446
00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,520
Speaker 2: I think is kind of where we like on the

447
00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,920
Speaker 2: edges of the zone. That's where you want to be

448
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:29,400
Speaker 2: all the time.

449
00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:30,960
Speaker 1: But when you have swing and miss stuff, you can

450
00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,560
Speaker 1: you can blow up by people like down the middle

451
00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:33,160
Speaker 1: sometimes too.

452
00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll shoot, I'll shoot. VI though the pitch illustrated

453
00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,680
Speaker 2: for Carrasco in this game, so people could see we're

454
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Speaker 2: talking about that. It was just it was so nibbly

455
00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,040
Speaker 2: and it was everything was so low.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, like he this was like a

457
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,840
Speaker 1: big start too for Carrasco, because I feel like he,

458
00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, he definitely struggled the first two of the season.

459
00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:49,760
Speaker 2: Getting this third one underneath his belt.

460
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Speaker 1: Great, Like you said, it wasn't perfect but it was

461
00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,520
Speaker 1: definitely like a step in the right direction for Carrasco

462
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Speaker 1: and I think it's like probably also big for a

463
00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,040
Speaker 1: little bit of the mental side for him too, and

464
00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,840
Speaker 1: gets the fans who have been, you know, a little

465
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Speaker 1: bit hard on him a little off his back as well,

466
00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,680
Speaker 1: because he ended up doing exactly what we needed to keep.

467
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,080
Speaker 2: Us in this game. Yeah, and again that's all, it's

468
00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:08,640
Speaker 2: all he had to do. You're not playing the best

469
00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,160
Speaker 2: team in the world, You're playing in a pretty big ballpark.

470
00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:12,919
Speaker 2: Let them hit fly balls and just let your outfield

471
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:14,399
Speaker 2: just go catch it. No big, no issues there.

472
00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:16,800
Speaker 1: Shout out to Pete Alnzo for really putting the team

473
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Speaker 1: on his back this weekend.

474
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Speaker 2: Him in the door.

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's so much fun when those guys are cooking.

476
00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,920
Speaker 1: But Pete specifically with the power was really big, and

477
00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,760
Speaker 1: he just hit an absolute bomb of a shot in

478
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,199
Speaker 1: this game, a big home run for.

479
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Speaker 2: Us that just really gave us some hope, which was nice. Yeah,

480
00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,000
Speaker 2: some hope. It's just he like this was the second

481
00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 2: of two massive home runs. Now we know that he

482
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,400
Speaker 2: would hit in this series to where he just hit

483
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Speaker 2: the piss out of it. He just hit them so

484
00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,520
Speaker 2: far and so hard. There's no way that these home

485
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:43,600
Speaker 2: runs were as short a distances as they were claimed

486
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,200
Speaker 2: to be on uh on Baseball Savannah unless see what

487
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Speaker 2: they actually called.

488
00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,280
Speaker 1: I've got some real beef with the estimated home run distance.

489
00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,520
Speaker 1: I think it's just simply incorrect. I think they take

490
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,440
Speaker 1: it off of where the ball like land like hits.

491
00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,439
Speaker 1: So if it hits like the siding or the awning

492
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Speaker 1: or I mean, unfortunately bring up Sodo's home run again,

493
00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,080
Speaker 1: or like hits off the shape bridge, they like this,

494
00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:07,000
Speaker 1: this distance that he hit is X amount of feet away.

495
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 1: They're not accounting for how farward actually land if it

496
00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 1: landed field level, which I think they should.

497
00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 2: I think they should too. They should, but they should.

498
00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I think what they're actually doing is they're

499
00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,880
Speaker 2: using the leggs of velocity in the angle to determine

500
00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 2: like the actual like expected distance of it. But I

501
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:21,960
Speaker 2: just still don't believe it. Like four hundred and twenty

502
00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,240
Speaker 2: one feet on Saturday and four hundred thirty feet on Sunday.

503
00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,639
Speaker 2: There's no way that's all those balls did. That's like

504
00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,240
Speaker 2: the remember the Pede Alonzo home run? Was it in Minnesota?

505
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 1: The one that he hit up to like the literal

506
00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,200
Speaker 1: upper deck a couple of years ago, and they said,

507
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,520
Speaker 1: like four hundred and thirty field, Like, there's no way

508
00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,159
Speaker 1: that ball is one hundred and fifty feet above the

509
00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,520
Speaker 1: ground level. There's no way that's only four hundred feet.

510
00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,000
Speaker 2: No, And that was big, say, got is on the board.

511
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,240
Speaker 2: Kind of got us feeling good. Then it was a

512
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,080
Speaker 2: couple more innings until the Mets were able to actually

513
00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:50,440
Speaker 2: get something together, and it did seem like similar. It

514
00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,520
Speaker 2: just did seem like the A's may have Leshin Tara

515
00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,560
Speaker 2: Fujinami in a little long first like kind of good

516
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:55,960
Speaker 2: star of his career. They guess want to see how

517
00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,879
Speaker 2: much they cold push, and there are a lot of

518
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 2: questionable things. Markaze did the serious well talk about another

519
00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,600
Speaker 2: one that happened on some day where I was like,

520
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,000
Speaker 2: this is one of the most brains I thinks mercy

521
00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,000
Speaker 2: in a baseball field. But Mark Canda hit a rope

522
00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:05,800
Speaker 2: of a home run down the line. Really nicee him

523
00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:07,359
Speaker 2: get to that pull power. You don't see that very

524
00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,119
Speaker 2: od from Canna just sell out and just really smoke

525
00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,560
Speaker 2: one down. And then Vogie drew a walk and then

526
00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,280
Speaker 2: they finally anching for Trevor May and we do that

527
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:14,959
Speaker 2: amazing thing we can do where Voky's a guy who

528
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,240
Speaker 2: gets on base half the time, and Timolcastro comes on

529
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:18,960
Speaker 2: who can steal a base like eighty percent of the time,

530
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,080
Speaker 2: he gets a second and Brandon with a clutch two

531
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Speaker 2: out hit to score him and get the lead. Yes off,

532
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 2: friend of the Pod, Trevor May, Sorry Trevor, but also

533
00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,240
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm happy. I'm happy because it ended

534
00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 2: up leading us to get the victory.

535
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 1: We need those runs big time, nice little late inning

536
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,560
Speaker 1: rally and like you said, Canna pulling the ball and

537
00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,240
Speaker 1: that's something like I love to see. I feel like

538
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,199
Speaker 1: last year when he was hot, like that Philly game,

539
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,760
Speaker 1: he pulled the ball down the line and that's usually

540
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,719
Speaker 1: signs of good things to come from Marcanas. So hopefully

541
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Speaker 1: he continues on with that hot streak here. And the

542
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,719
Speaker 1: Mets bullpen at in this game still looked good. Now

543
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,960
Speaker 1: obviously Sunday like Jimmy Ackerbonus came in and got us

544
00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 1: a little scary a little bit, but the Mets bullpen

545
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 1: still looks very, very solid, especially with the absence of

546
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,560
Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz, which is big.

547
00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,320
Speaker 2: No. Weulpin looks amazing Drew Smith got four out, which

548
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 2: was big, throw a lot of pitches to get There's

549
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,359
Speaker 2: really finished that one off nice and easily out of

550
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,480
Speaker 2: you know, there was some trouble. He seems like the

551
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,080
Speaker 2: guy who isn't exactly at his best right now in

552
00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 2: this entire bullpen, which is which definitely hurts because now

553
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,000
Speaker 2: he's like throws too much more important role with that

554
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 2: Diez as we know, and David Robertson just the hammer,

555
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: and he did it again on Sunday, like even after Sunday,

556
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: pitching two days in a row for the first time

557
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 2: this year, just filling in so so incredibly admirably. Fredmin Diaz,

558
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,000
Speaker 2: he's giving that a little feeling like, oh my god,

559
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: imagine if this bullpen was complete. But Robertson's seven and

560
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:29,919
Speaker 2: thirds innings hasn't given up a run. He struck out

561
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,520
Speaker 2: of nine. The whip is point five. Like he's he's

562
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: every bit as disgusting as he was billed.

563
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he looks fantastic and we can talk about

564
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 1: his performance as well on Sunday when we get to

565
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 1: that one. Moving on to Game three here, right, nothing

566
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: much from Game two. It was pretty much like it

567
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,320
Speaker 1: was kind of an easy, straightforward, boring game A little

568
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: bit Game two, so moving on to Game three. Before

569
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: the game, the A's did a nineteen seventy three World

570
00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:54,320
Speaker 1: Series ceremony, which I guess it's unfortunate the Mets just

571
00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,800
Speaker 1: happened to match up on the fiftieth anniversary of when

572
00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 1: that happens the whole.

573
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: Year at the anniverse they were gonna play him this.

574
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 2: I mean, Ney were playing everybody this year. Yes, but

575
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,119
Speaker 2: in theory, the Mets could have had this game in

576
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,920
Speaker 2: city Field. I'm just saying, like, it's it's funny. Yeah,

577
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 2: that ends up lining up there. Nineteen seventy three World Series.

578
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 2: Of course, close with my my uncle. Sunday was Greek

579
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 2: Easter sho shouts all the Greeks out there, celeb Brayton.

580
00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,760
Speaker 2: My uncle was having a real big conversation to me

581
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 2: with me today about the nineteen seventy three World Series,

582
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:22,720
Speaker 2: specifically Rusty Stop.

583
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: He was like, that guy was that guy was a

584
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 1: ball player. I wish there was more Rusty Sobs in

585
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: the world. And that's just that's a classic.

586
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,639
Speaker 2: Like sixty year old baseball Mets fan who was like,

587
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: I love Ross, Rusty Stop. How do we find more

588
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 2: of him. All I think is that baseball needs is

589
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 2: just more guys simply named rusty, Like I don't care

590
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: what their game is, Like you could be named I mean,

591
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,399
Speaker 2: you can't be named Rusty and like be a massive

592
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 2: home runner there, it doesn't work, like just every single grinder.

593
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 2: Every team should like annoint the rusty russe. Yeah, picked

594
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 2: their Rusty like soccer teams pick a ten, like hockey

595
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,080
Speaker 2: teams have captains and alternates, Like every team should have

596
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 2: a Rusty. Who's the Rusty for the Mets this year?

597
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 2: It's probably Jeff McNeil. It definitely also like it could

598
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: it could be it could be a armayor of La Castro,

599
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: depending on like what you actually make your rusty.

600
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, Rusty stop has some pop too. I mean he

601
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: had a couple. He had a thirty home run season

602
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: in Montreal with the METSI average about like fifteen twenty

603
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 1: home runs a year, So I mean, i'd love to

604
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,240
Speaker 1: see McNeil get back to that twenty home run clip

605
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: as well as hitting close to three hundred.

606
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 2: That'd be great for sure. And this game on Sunday

607
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. It was back and forth

608
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 2: in a weird way and just it gave some palpitations.

609
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 2: Catra innings always do. But before we get to the

610
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 2: fun stuff, I just wanted very briefly break down Jose

611
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: Budo because he made the spot start after the Mets

612
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: announced that Mac Sure, as we pushed back to some

613
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 2: discomfort and aside, I believe shuars are profusely denied that

614
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 2: this was anything more serious than it would look like

615
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: I don't know.

616
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: It looked like a fake interview from like the leg

617
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 1: satur satirical TV show, like they're chasing the tongs, like

618
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,119
Speaker 1: I know exactly why this, I know exactly why this.

619
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Speaker 1: You just like very obviously like stop it, but we

620
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: will look good coming in on a short notice. That

621
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Speaker 1: fastball change of combo is legitimately good, Like I use

622
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: the word good there very purposefully, just exactly like how

623
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Speaker 1: we used Bret honeywell like pretty okay, really purposefully a

624
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: few episodes ago, where like the fastball has a really

625
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: good shape, like we could. For some reason, baseball savon

626
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 1: just didn't have the vertical movement fastball you had.

627
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: Every other pitcher in this game and in baseball today

628
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 2: didn't have his. But if I'm just basing on the

629
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Speaker 2: spin and what I saw with my eyes, it looks

630
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 2: like a fastball. It has the shape that you want,

631
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 2: and you can also feel that because he was pitching

632
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 2: up in the zone effectively and getting swings and misses,

633
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 2: which is cool, but it's just good and it's not

634
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 2: great because he throws it ninety four instead of like

635
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 2: ninety six and ninety seven, and that limits the ceiling.

636
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 2: Like that's why someone like Sanga can have the fastball

637
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 2: forkball combo and have this elite ceiling, but Boulo just

638
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 2: has a good ceiling. And that's just kind of part

639
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: of this. But the color did look okay. All three

640
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,239
Speaker 2: of those pitches got multiple whiffs and looks like there

641
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 2: is there's definitely a skill set still to work with

642
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: the budo, despite the fact there probably just needs to

643
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: be a little bit more fine tuning or commitment to

644
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 2: one of those like fifty fifty pitch rolls where he

645
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 2: can actually juice that thinks in ninety six and make

646
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 2: it really good.

647
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: The cutter is a new pitch this year, right we

648
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: saw that spring training and we're like, ooh, nice little

649
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: wrinkle there. That could completely or I shouldn't say completely,

650
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:53,720
Speaker 1: but that could definitely change the outcome for Jose Budo.

651
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: It's also good to see that this was his second

652
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: start right for the Mets, because the first one was

653
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:58,680
Speaker 1: still the Phillies, and I don't think he had another

654
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 1: one since. Good to see that his season debut went

655
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: very well, Like this is a guy who we talk

656
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 1: about pitching depth all the time on this podcast.

657
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: We talked about the eighth, ninth, tenth guy.

658
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,159
Speaker 1: Booda is gonna be one of those those guys that

659
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 1: is going to make starts at some point for this

660
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: team this year. It's just it's not possible to be

661
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: perfectly healthy. So it's good to see that he got

662
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: off to a hot start. I feel like it also

663
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: just kind of gives him a little bit of a breather.

664
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: He's now had his first good start at Major League Baseball,

665
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: like almost like, oh, yeah, I do belong here, Like

666
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 1: I am good enough to be on this team.

667
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: I'm good enough to be a starting pitcher in this league.

668
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: Gotta feel good for Jose Buddo there, Yeah, for sure.

669
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: And it's just it's nice that again like he did

670
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 2: we we can't count on him in a pinch like this,

671
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: like there's no issues or qualms with that like people

672
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: like last year was a little scary, but that was

673
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: a different situation. He didn't have the color and that

674
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: was a that was a in a scary ballpark, in

675
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 2: a scary offense, like being able to go out in Oakland,

676
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 2: like we saw a Mets Spots star there last year

677
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,520
Speaker 2: go out in a game against not a good offense

678
00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 2: in a in a pitcher's ballpark, and this didn't happen.

679
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 2: If you remember what I'm talking about it I don't

680
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: want to see you, No, I do, Yeah, of course

681
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 2: I remember.

682
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 1: So it's cool that Hoak Buda could just do this

683
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: on short notice and we can still be in position

684
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: to win this game, because we very much were in

685
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,239
Speaker 1: position to win this game right until the very end.

686
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 2: Got has to win here. A big reason for that

687
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: is my boy, my kids, That's what let's give Let's

688
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 2: give you your Tommy time. This is your Tommy time.

689
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: Here go for James.

690
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: You've you've been waiting, You've been doing it every series

691
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: because he's done something good every single series.

692
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: Tommy fam here we go. You're just this guy.

693
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: We can't we can never take him out of the

694
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: lineup against the left He like two more balls and

695
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: play over one hundred miles an hour eight sixty one

696
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: ops on the season in a small sample, got a

697
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: second home run May the one nothing in this game,

698
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: and he was jacked up rounding second base because he

699
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: knew we're out there the Tommy Fam hive is out

700
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: there waiting for him to congratulate him when he comes

701
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: around the bases.

702
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: He's just been super good. He's been a really good

703
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 2: addition to this team, and I'm really happy about what

704
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: he brings this lineup power wise from the right side, No.

705
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 2: One hundred percent. Now.

706
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 1: I think last year, like Tommy FAM's eggs vlos were

707
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: like a little bit lower than they had been in

708
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: the past, right and this year he seems to be

709
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: completely back to just crushing the baseball. Tommy that that

710
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: the contacts or whatever he is, he they should give

711
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 1: him like a discount code so he can get like

712
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: affiliate marketing there, because they're SEMs to be no better

713
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: promoter of whatever these contacts are that he got than

714
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 1: Tommy Fam, because that dude has literally been locked in

715
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: since he.

716
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: Got those things put in. Yeah, and this game was

717
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 2: also just an amazing lesson about like how much power

718
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: can help a baseball team because Tommy Fan hit the

719
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 2: solo home run, Francisco Lindoor hit the next one, and

720
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: then in the ninth inning with one out, and felt

721
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: like a lot of hope had been lost, Pete Alonzo

722
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 2: comes up and hits another tank moonshot out. The Met's

723
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: had three runs on three solo home runs in this

724
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 2: game that put them in position to do something extra

725
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 2: innings and win this game. That cannot be understated.

726
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: And I want to talk about Pee Alonzo a little

727
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 1: bit too, because he's having an unbelievable start to the year.

728
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: He's got eight home runs, which I believe are the

729
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: most in baseball, or at least tied for the most

730
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 1: in baseball. I don't Rafael Devers had seven. I'm not

731
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 1: sure what's happened there. But Pete on the year right now,

732
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: eight home runs, fourteen RBIs with a ten to fifty

733
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: four ohps. Of course, it's seventy eight played appearances, so

734
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: the sample is small. But there are some real improvements

735
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: that Pete Alonso has made again this year that you've

736
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 1: already been able to see. He's obviously hitting the ball hard,

737
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,160
Speaker 1: obviously crushing at his barrel rates in the ninety first

738
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: percentile right now. It's absolutely disgusting. But the thing that

739
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: is making Pede Alonzo extremely, extremely scary right now is

740
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: he's a guy who's chase rate has kind of hovered

741
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 1: in that thirtieth percentile in his career, like thirtieth, twenty ninth.

742
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: I think he was like eighteenth last year percentile and

743
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: chase rate right now in this short season.

744
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 2: Sixty sixth percentile in chase rate.

745
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: That is absolutely massive for a guy who has crazy,

746
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: crazy power. If Pede Alonso is not chasing, he's getting

747
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: on base even more and still hitting for power. I mean,

748
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: you're talking about an MVP caliber season without a.

749
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 2: Doubt, certainly. And a big part of that also is

750
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 2: I think Pete went through an entire season last year

751
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: just seeing like the types of pitches he was getting

752
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: a normal at bat, and now kind of more realizing

753
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 2: like if I don't extend the zone like and I

754
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 2: keep this thing moving like it helps everybody and they

755
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: eventually they're gonna have to come into me when I

756
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: get ahead in the count. You're raising that percentile. Chase

757
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: rate has been a drop from thirty three point five

758
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: percent chase rate last year, the highest of his career

759
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 2: in situation where his spot in the batting or they

760
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 2: did move, and they're like, there's just differences in protection

761
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: around him. This year's under twenty five percent the league

762
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 2: twenty eight percent. In turn. So far, the sample isn't big,

763
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 2: but the sample for chase rate is almost almost complete,

764
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: and the sample for walk grade it's not that far

765
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 2: away from being complete. He's running a fourteen percent walk

766
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: rate so far in the season, nearly fourteen percent. Probably

767
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 2: dropped down to thirteen percent after Saturday. Let's he did drawalk.

768
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: I only remember all I remembers that crazy home run.

769
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: That number was not even ten percent last year, so

770
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: now it's over thirteen percent. That is a huge change.

771
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: While again for every single year in his career five

772
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,200
Speaker 2: years running, as of the second, he's cut down his

773
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: strikeout rate as well. I mean, right now it's minimal

774
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: compared to the last year, because last year it became

775
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,919
Speaker 2: very elite. It was under twenty percent two full seasons

776
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 2: row for Pete. This year looks like he's well on

777
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: the way on his way of doing that. Again, he's

778
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: he's simply one of the best hitters in baseball, and

779
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: he should be treated as such every single thing he

780
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: does is elite, on par with absolutely the best players,

781
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 2: one hundred percent.

782
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: This is like a huge, huge step forward for Pete,

783
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 1: for a guy who didn't need a step forward. By

784
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: the way, it's not like we're like, wow, like this

785
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: guy is different. This guy's different going from like all

786
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: start to now, like you said that, elite, elite level

787
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: of hitter. Pete in his rookie year, we know he

788
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: broke the record for rookie home runs hit his eighth

789
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: home run. Until April twenty first, the twenty first game

790
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: of the season, we are what how many games in

791
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: are we right now?

792
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 2: Like, what's what's the Mets record? Off the top of

793
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: our head, because again we're sixteen.

794
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: Games into the season. Beats, Yeah, Pete's got number eight.

795
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,479
Speaker 1: We have Pete Alonso in the stack category this year.

796
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye out for sure.

797
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: And just something again we can't say it enough, like

798
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: the Mets have one of the best combinations of three

799
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 2: four hitters in all of baseball. And this was a

800
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: game where they went out and we're like, we are

801
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna make sure we're not losing this game. Nope.

802
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pete Alonzo Francisco Indoor put the team on their

803
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: back huge again. And also like I mean the bullpen,

804
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: John Curtis had a rough outing that would probably do

805
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: a little bit that he was going to struggle at

806
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 1: some point this year, had a rough again.

807
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: He wasn't going to not give up a run. Yeah happen.

808
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 2: That was never not gonna happen.

809
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: But like, shout out to Denny Rays who did a

810
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: really good job, like got out of a jam when

811
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: Budo came in and struggled with the first bat of

812
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: that inning. And then I feel like the big shout

813
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: out here is definitely David Robertson in that extra inning

814
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: to close the door the Mets, which was just it was,

815
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: It's so nice.

816
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: He really is very very very good, super good. It's

817
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: amazing that even last year in the small sample of

818
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: the Phillies he wasn't good, because he's been good his

819
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 2: entire career basically besides that, also besides when his arm

820
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: blew up, So shout out the Phillies for that one.

821
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: And it definitely was very surprising to see Buddo, who

822
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 2: would who had twice as many walks and strikeouts in

823
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 2: this game come back out for the sixth inning. Yeah,

824
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 2: and then again Denny Rays was that with our friends

825
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: saying discord the other day we put on Twitter like

826
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 2: who's this, Who's this Denny Ray's cat, Dennie Ray's cat

827
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: looks kind of nice, Like that slider is is pretty legit,

828
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: and it was cool to seem navigate out of that

829
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: jam and still have enough in the tank for another inning.

830
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: But I really want to call attention to one of

831
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 2: the craziest combination moves I've seen like a manager make

832
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 2: in a game winning scenario, and that was Markott say

833
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 2: this game in the ninth and tenth innings. In the

834
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 2: ninth inning of this game, it was tied. It was

835
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: three to three. So if you're the A's, one run

836
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: quite literally wins you the baseball game. And they had

837
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: first and second nobody out for was pretty obviously the

838
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 2: best hitter in their line of Ramon Loreano. They're cleanup

839
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: there and they let him swing the bat. I think

840
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: he immediately went down two and then the bat just

841
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: not It ended up fizzling out. Then before a while

842
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 2: pitch that ends up kind of making making up for anyway.

843
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 2: But in that situation, you have a man on second,

844
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 2: nobody out, you have an opportunity to get a man

845
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: to third base less than two outs, you have to

846
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 2: take that one hundred percent of time. I'm usually a

847
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,960
Speaker 2: never bunter. This is quite literally the only situation in

848
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: baseball when you should be bunting. When only one run

849
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: wins the game completely over, and you get into third

850
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 2: with less than two outs, you almost like you was

851
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 2: probably have like, what it's sixty five percent chance to

852
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: get that run in from that spot. I'm sure in

853
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: baseball that numbers probably hovers between that and seventy. And

854
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: then we get to the tenth inning where the Mets

855
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: have a one run lead and they have the same

856
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: situation first and second, nobody out, and Ryan knows is

857
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: coming to the plate. Okain definitely a worst caliber hither

858
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 2: different spot in the batting order. I'm sure that all

859
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: plays into why these decisions are made. But he did bunt,

860
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: and he bunted the ball straight back to David Robinson.

861
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: Made the play at third base completely neutralized any chance

862
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: the A's would have to win this game. And in reality,

863
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: there for the A's getting that one guy in from

864
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 2: second to third then getting him home on another out,

865
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 2: it doesn't really help you with all because your team

866
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: that's significantly worse the team you're playing, Why would you

867
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: want to play another inning against them? Though? I was

868
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: so excited about that.

869
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, coming out of that, anything with a tie would

870
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: have been massive for the Mets because I think we've

871
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: had another chance to play against a bad team with

872
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: bad pitcher and bad defense behind them. So that would

873
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 1: been that bunch was a huge win for the Mets.

874
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: Couldn't imagine marcotsee seeing more importance to tying a game

875
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 1: of the tenth rather than winning it in the ninth. Yeah,

876
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 1: that's how we saw it. Marcotte had some very very

877
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: questionable decisions also, like it's hard when you have the

878
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: players that you have in Oakland to probably try and

879
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: figure out, especially on the pitching side, like what am

880
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: I going to do?

881
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: No one's throwing any strikes? Like who do I actually

882
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: go to? And Zach Jackson Johnson, Zach Johnson, what's his name?

883
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 2: The guy who came in into.

884
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: The tenth and walked every guys, Zach Jackson. Yeah, he

885
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: had a really really tough series. Ramon Loreano though only

886
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 1: one sacrifice bunt in his entire career, and that came

887
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, So the do has not laid down

888
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: a sack in five years pretty much.

889
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: For sure, because in most scenarios there's no reason mon

890
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Loreianna should be bunting for or anything else on this roster.

891
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: But it's just in that situation it changes your potential

892
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: to win by so much so quickly that's crazy not

893
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: to do it.

894
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: And in case you guys are new to the podcast,

895
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: this is the first time you've listened, or maybe he

896
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: came on this year, or you haven't been, here's from

897
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 1: the start. James is probably the most anti bunt person

898
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: that I know. He hates it, like he's he's the

899
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: numbers guy, right, and the stats tell you like that

900
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 1: the bunt really just doesn't make sense in a lot

901
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: of scenarios. So for James to get on his soapbox

902
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,600
Speaker 1: here and be saying that Ramon Loreano should have been

903
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: bunting there.

904
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 2: I mean, you know that that's a big mistake. It's meaningful.

905
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 2: It's also just so funny, like having this conversation where

906
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: like everyone wheneverything people think about the A's now everyone

907
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: thinks about Billy being basically the movie Moneyball. I feel

908
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 2: like mostly and I'm seeing the scene in my head

909
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: where Brad pitt Is hanging out in the gym with

910
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: these guys being like, if they're gonna bun, you're gonna

911
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: give me, I'll just take it, throw it right at

912
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: the first base. And the A's actually did that one inning.

913
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: But then if they would have not done the bunt

914
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: in the tenth I would have been this wouldn't have

915
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: been as much of a conversation. But the fact that

916
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: they single handedly took themselves out of a rally in

917
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: that tenth inning to physically hand us his victory. It's

918
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: like the seventeen time this series. Seventeen is big number

919
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: of the series.

920
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: It was. It was beautiful and I'm happy we got

921
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: to sweep because they gave it to us. Yeah, I mean,

922
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: like we.

923
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: Said, the Mets pretty much just showed up to Oakland

924
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: and beat them at the end of the day. And

925
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,319
Speaker 1: shout out to Francisco Lindor and Pete Alonso who both

926
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: had massive series and were there when we needed them

927
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 1: because there were at times where the offense wasn't getting

928
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: things going, It's gonna happen. I mean, like it shows

929
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,959
Speaker 1: you again why power is so important. The Lindor home runs,

930
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: the Pete home runs all huge in this series ends

931
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 1: up being a sweep, which is great for two reasons.

932
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: One because the Mets sweep. We love when they don't

933
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: lose any games in two because the Steak bet Nationals

934
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: and A's. The A's don't get a single game against

935
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: the Mets. So I'm extremely happy because we want James

936
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: to take me out for steak dinner at the end

937
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: of the year.

938
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: And the Nationals grabbed the win against the Guardians. Sneak

939
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 2: you win.

940
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: All right, Now it's time for everybody's favorite part of

941
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: the Mets Stuff podcast. We've got the estimate last series

942
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: against the A's. Of course I lost. I picked ten,

943
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: James picked eleven, and it was higher than eleven. I

944
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: don't even remember what the exact number was. Maybe you

945
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: know what the number is, James thirteen thirteen. So so

946
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: John out in Johnny Jamaica. See we have something. Every

947
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: episode we got Johnny Jamaica hanging out on the balcony

948
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 1: having a nice beverage that's blue and orange. John, what

949
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: are we looking at for the estimate for this next

950
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: series here?

951
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I'm actually not Aloha. That's not

952
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: what they say in Jamaica. But hey, you guys doing

953
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 3: great series win. That's not what they say at all,

954
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: but fantastic series win. Got myself what I thought was

955
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: a blue and orange drink, but I guess it looks

956
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: like yellow. Kind of My boy Tommy did his best anyway,

957
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: So I'll make this quick because I've got a run.

958
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: Here's what we're gonna go with for this series. There

959
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 3: may or may not be a few rookies that we

960
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: look closely at here in La James Atman. The Dodgers

961
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: off to an incredible start, So it's gonna be the

962
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 3: total amount of hits by rookies in the Mets.

963
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: Most series are.

964
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: Counting here, right John, as he takes a huge sip

965
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: of his drink. Okay, both teams rookie hits.

966
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: That was actually a small rookie hits.

967
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: By both teams.

968
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: We're talking James Outman, We're talking Miguel Vargas. Anybody else

969
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: on the Dodgers that I can think of that could.

970
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 2: Be a rookie that qualifies for a hit. No, but

971
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: then we also have the Mets. We have the Mets

972
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 2: as well.

973
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm gonna come up with a number I'm

974
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna go with. Uh, I'm gonna do something fun here.

975
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: Let's get crazy, Let's get wild, Let's get crazy. I

976
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: got I got a great number. I've never felt more

977
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: confident that I'm gonna get on the board here and

978
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: finally get a win in twenty twenty three. For the estimate,

979
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: the shutout will end here for James, my number is perfect.

980
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: I'm really thinking about this one. I've been thinking about

981
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: the last couple and I've won.

982
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: Them both, so yeah, maybe maybe I should be thinking

983
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 1: about these a little bit more rather than just going,

984
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 1: you know, here's the number that I think of, and

985
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: that's the one I like.

986
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 3: And by the way, I just want to point out

987
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 3: right now that Jamaica, for some some reason, Jamaica is

988
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: it's gonna be on Central time. Mark's and New York

989
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,399
Speaker 3: and James's on the West coast, So right now we're

990
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: repping three different times, which is ye incredible.

991
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 1: Jamaica is east of Miami. Yet somehow, some way, I

992
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: can't where serious.

993
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: I looked at it on a map.

994
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm looking at Google Maps, and Jamaica is

995
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 1: east of Miami. The western end of Jamaica is not

996
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: even like in a straight line with Miami.

997
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 2: It's east of it. I love time zones. Zones are crazy.

998
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: All right, we're right for this estimate. Just woke up, alright,

999
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: James will count down three to one. Bang ooh wait seven.

1000
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 2: And a half. You can't do a half?

1001
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: Okay that I'll take seven. I just think in case

1002
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,879
Speaker 1: you did seven, I wanted to do seven and a half.

1003
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: No you should. I think that's eight. No, this is seven.

1004
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: Then I get to pick why seven and a half. Fine,

1005
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: then it's not seven, Then it's eight. Yeah, okay, then

1006
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: it's eight. I wanted to just we've been matching. We've

1007
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: been very very close with each other.

1008
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 2: I wanted to make sure these are rules going far

1009
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: because no more halfs, no more halves here. That was

1010
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: was just throwing a curveball there.

1011
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: But I wanted to make sure that we did not

1012
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 1: match because there was a world where I was like,

1013
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: we're gonna match again, We're gonna be stuck and John's

1014
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: and Jamaica with a huge delay.

1015
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, tape delay. All right, John, thank you so much

1016
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: for the estimate.

1017
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: Eight six seven gives us the trouble again here, but

1018
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: we will see how it goes. Have fun in Jamaica. John,

1019
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,760
Speaker 1: We'll see on the next one. Yeah, I mean, Johnny

1020
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: Jamaica really is on another level.

1021
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 2: John. John always comes into these zooms or the stream.

1022
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 1: Yards I should say stream yard episodes with a lot

1023
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: of different energy. Johnny Jamaica was definitely a little bit

1024
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: different for us there, especially with that delay in the

1025
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: Central time zone.

1026
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. And John, John, as you guys can tell, very much,

1027
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: loves the camera. He likes getting the opportunity to speak

1028
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: his mind on here, so very excited to give him

1029
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: that chance. Is this so funny?

1030
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 1: How what we started, Like, John was like maybe I

1031
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: could like just like come on and like say some

1032
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: stats for you guys every once in a while. Now

1033
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: John's like camera, let me, let me get the light

1034
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 1: and perfect for you guys, let me get the backdrop.

1035
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 2: John's ready to roll. Do you think there's any chances

1036
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: ever applied makeup?

1037
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: Yes, Johnny makeup. I mean, I just love that we

1038
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: can just a why to his name and then a

1039
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: word and it really just it fits so well. Like

1040
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: Johnny Jamaica.

1041
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 2: How does that work? I don't know.

1042
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: Johnny blush veto tells us in the in the stream

1043
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: yard chat that John flosses before every single episode, which

1044
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: that's probably more than I've floss in like the last year,

1045
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: which is maybe maybe a little concerning.

1046
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a flaws. I'm an active floss.

1047
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, we know my feelings on the dentist. We

1048
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: don't have to go into floss. I can get behind floss.

1049
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 2: I should be flossing more. I don't disc all right, now,

1050
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 2: let's swing it out. We have a big series in

1051
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: Los Angeles now, is gonna be starting on Monday night.

1052
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on site for at least one of

1053
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: these games. I might I might show up on Monday,

1054
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 2: just depending on other things that are going on with

1055
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: my trip here. Also depending on if anyone else is

1056
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: playing for the Mets that night, I might might want

1057
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 2: to go see him, say hi or something. But Monday night,

1058
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 2: we have a pretty fun pitching matchup lot. Actually, I

1059
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: would say right now as they're scheduled, all three pitching

1060
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 2: matchups this year is are very fun. Two good teams, yeah,

1061
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 2: two good teams to the better teams in the National League.

1062
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: Monday night David Peterson versus Dustin May and then Tuesday

1063
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Night Tyler McGill versus Clayton Kershaw. We know how how

1064
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: good Kershaw usually is against the Mets in the regular season,

1065
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: is really not something that I'm expecting to be very fun.

1066
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 2: And then on Wednesday of Mattin Night, this game, I'm

1067
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: definitely going to New and local time three o'clock Eastern,

1068
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 2: Max schures Or versus the forgotten son, Noah Cindergard facing

1069
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 2: the Mets for the first time in his career. That

1070
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 2: should have been the O.

1071
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: That should have been the estimate how many pitches does

1072
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: Noahs Sinderguard actually throw against the New York Mets in

1073
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: this series and the line would be set at out

1074
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: one because we we know no Cindergard has been dodging

1075
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: the Mets, dodging us left and right ever since he left.

1076
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 1: So it would be nice to get to Noah because

1077
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: he left in such weird terms, like obviously have great

1078
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: memories with the guy, but the way that he left,

1079
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: just that one hurt me. That one hurt me a

1080
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: little bit.

1081
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't like the way that that ended.

1082
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Speaker 2: No But it's gonna be excited to face him if

1083
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 2: we actually do face him. Very excited to be in

1084
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium. Also, never been out there, so if any

1085
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 2: listeners are out there, hit me up and be rolling

1086
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 2: around the park with stickers. Probably gonna stick a few

1087
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 2: up here and there. Just we'd love to see some

1088
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: Mets fans out there. Will be kind of cool and

1089
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 2: also just kind of taking in Los Angeles. Anybody has

1090
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: the recommendations like throwing at me onto because.

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00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: I will say, hang out in the outfield. They have

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00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: like a really cool like hangout area out in the outfield. Honestly,

1093
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: if you can sit in the outfield. I had a

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00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: really good time out there when I went to see

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Speaker 1: aplepool sid seven.

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Speaker 2: Hundred home run.

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00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah that probably helped lay into it. No, for sure,

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00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: that definitely helped have to have a good time. But

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00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: like hanging out there is like very chill. Everyone's like

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00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: very friendly, a lot of conversation, really good food, and

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, Dodger Stadium is really awesome. I really enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the time. It's just getting there is a real pain

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00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: in the butt because LA traffic is just it's undeniable.

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00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: It exists at all times anywhere you go, doesn't matter

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00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: what time of day, LA traffic exists.

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00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: So I wish you god speed in getting to the

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Speaker 2: stadium there. James, thank you. I'm hoping the Wednesday in

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00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: the matinee game kind of negates some of that, hopefully. Hopefully.

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00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: I have no experience in going to a matinee in LA. Yeah,

1110
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: so we'll see how go. Some guys that keep an

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00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: eye out for you obviously know about the names.

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00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 2: That are the stars, Mookie Bets, Freddy Freeman, Will Smith, JD. Martinez.

1113
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 1: All guys are beats of Max Muncie has started to

1114
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: heat up quite a bit going into this series. He

1115
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: seems like he might have remembered how to hit. But

1116
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: the names that you need to really pay attention to

1117
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: it you saw in the estimate. We're talking about the rookies,

1118
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: Miguel Vargas, James Albmen, those are the names to keep

1119
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: an eye out for. Both of them exceptional players. I

1120
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: love James Outman. Every single thing that I've been seeing

1121
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: from this year, I go, oh, he's really really good

1122
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 1: and this guy is probably going to be a problem

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00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: at some point in Miguel Vargas on base Machine.

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00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Outman is a guy so which people should pay

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00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 2: attention to because he, like Fargas, was a top prospect,

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00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: Like we knew he was gonna come up and make

1127
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: a huge impact immediately. Outman has come a little bit

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00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 2: out of nowhere, kind of that Dodger this year has

1129
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: done that, and he looks super legit in a small

1130
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: sample this year. His power is crazy good. He's playing

1131
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: a good defensive outfield. I think he's near the league

1132
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 2: lead in barrels right now, and he's doing something that

1133
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: Mark and I talked about this on his live stream

1134
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: for his Baseball show on Friday, that it's like one

1135
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 2: of the most unique skill sets in baseball, where at

1136
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: the same time, James Outman has one of the worst

1137
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: with rates for any hitter in baseball, but one of

1138
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 2: the best chase rates. So that means that James Aubmen

1139
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 2: very rarely will swing it pitches outside the strike zone,

1140
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: but he it's harder for him to make contact on

1141
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: a lot of the ones in the strike zone because

1142
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: he has this crazy, just force, full torque top lefty

1143
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: swing or he's swinging for the moon every single time.

1144
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: And he's doing that.

1145
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 1: He's hitting in a lot of the time this year.

1146
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: But it's it's it's definitely gonna be feast or fam

1147
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: over Outman while he keeps this approach and right now,

1148
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: with his major feast time. Yeah, and Miguel Vargas, if

1149
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: you guys remember during spring training he had a hand injury,

1150
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: so the Dodgers sent him up to the plate every

1151
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: single time for like two weeks and said, do not

1152
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: swing the bat, just watch pitches, and it has worked out.

1153
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 1: The twenty three year old has thirteen walks in forty

1154
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: eight played appearances before. I don't know what happened with

1155
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: today's game or whatnot. He's only struck out eight times. Like, yeah,

1156
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: he hasn't hit a home run yet. The power hasn't necessarily.

1157
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: Shown per se.

1158
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: But he's gonna be a special player as a four

1159
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,200
Speaker 1: to forty seven on base percentage.

1160
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, m Migel Vargas has his played discipline's good enough

1161
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: where if the other tools come, and there's no reason

1162
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 2: they won't because they were very loud in the minor leagues.

1163
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: And he's like he could just break this whole thing.

1164
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: He could be such a good baseball player. It's a

1165
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 2: little bit sillyer right now. He's he's running a one

1166
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: thirty the WRC plus like a four to fifty x ROL,

1167
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 2: but he has no home runs because he just gets

1168
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: on base every single time.

1169
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: You might break the system and they still have the

1170
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: great players too. And then just one more little I

1171
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: don't even want to call us a shout out, but

1172
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,800
Speaker 1: some former Atlanta Braves whose careers kind of looked like

1173
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 1: they were derailed a little bit, kind of looked like

1174
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: they were over have had some success this year with

1175
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: the Dodgers. On the offensive side, that would be Jason Hayward,

1176
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: who he's not gonna hit for average, but he seems

1177
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: to be doing that thing that older players when they

1178
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: go to the Dodgers do, and that's just try and

1179
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: hit home runs. Try and hit the ball as hard

1180
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: as you can in the air.

1181
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: That's all we need.

1182
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: And then on the pitching side, which I'd love to

1183
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: see what you have to say about this guy, Oh,

1184
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: Shelby Miller. Shelby Miller, thirty two years of age, has

1185
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: not pitched since what or I guess he pitched a

1186
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: little bit in twenty twenty two, but hasn't been good

1187
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen when he made the All Star team

1188
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: with the Braves, and seems like at least statistically, he's

1189
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: pitched six and two thirds innings, hasn't given up a run,

1190
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: and shrinking out some dudes he's only given up one hit, Like,

1191
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: what's the deal with Shelby Miller, Dude, I was so

1192
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: on the Shelby Miller research as bamdwagen last season. He

1193
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 1: just like has pitches that again just like look like good,

1194
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: like they have good moving profiles. I know it's the fastball,

1195
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: and I want double check right now to see if

1196
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: it was a slyther or a crazy change up. That's

1197
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: the other thing that he's been throwing like since his

1198
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: whole comeback has begun. But once I saw the Dodgers

1199
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: pick him up, I was like, oh crap, they saw

1200
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: this too, and it's it's a slytherer yeah, and he

1201
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: has a splither it now is that a new pitch?

1202
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: That is a new pitch. He's just throwing a splitter

1203
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: now fourteen percent of the time last year in this

1204
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: very limited sample, he's throwing fifty five percent sliders and

1205
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 2: forty five percent fastballs. And I was like, oh no,

1206
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: I think they got my half something here, because the

1207
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: fastball got back to ninety four last year and the

1208
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: slyer was just moving a ton, getting a lot of whiffs.

1209
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 2: And now it's just like this is good and that

1210
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: splithers is becoming a pitchers even getting more whiffs than

1211
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 2: the slider, So it looks like that could be something

1212
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 2: that might takes over when he gets prepared enough for it.

1213
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: But I do think Shelby Miller actually is going to

1214
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 2: be a plus reliever, which is kind of insane to say.

1215
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: He's still walking. A lot of guys not great, but

1216
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 2: he's not. He's not dead.

1217
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: And that's pretty much the Dodgers. It's not the Dodgers

1218
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 1: are used to but they're still a very very good team. Uh,

1219
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: they're they're gonna make yea.

1220
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: I want to talk about one more guy too, because

1221
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,959
Speaker 2: we see him where the Mets are gonna face Dustin

1222
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: May on Monday Night, who probably right now is like,

1223
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,839
Speaker 2: if not the most exciting young pitcher in the league,

1224
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: one of the most exciting young pictures in the league,

1225
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: along with like, I don't know, Hunter Brown and Grace

1226
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 2: and Rodriguez, all these guys are pretty similar tiers. It's

1227
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 2: just elite guys without that much experience. He was forgotten

1228
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 2: about a little bit because he got the Tommy John surgery,

1229
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 2: missed the whole year last year, but he made some

1230
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: like super meaningful changes, just started focusing a lot more

1231
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: in his fastball and curveball. They're both elite. That fastball

1232
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: just sits upper nineties and like has the rising action.

1233
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: The curveball's a straight up knee buckler, like looks like

1234
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,839
Speaker 2: Kurdshoff from the right side. It's ridiculous he still throws

1235
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: that sinker too, because it has like witchy movement. It's

1236
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: just he was throwing it so much early in his

1237
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 2: career that he had no clue where it was going.

1238
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 2: So it's kind of hard for him to like manage

1239
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 2: contact and be able to get called strikes because it

1240
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: was It's just like it's a pitch, one of those

1241
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: underworld pitches where he throws it and it's like ninety

1242
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 2: seven and it moves like forty inches. I don't know

1243
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen, Sideto Bob. He's got the crazy orange

1244
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: hair too, like you can't miss him. Yeah, And now

1245
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: he's doing this thing where he kind of took a

1246
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 2: little bit. He kind of just learned about it a

1247
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: little bit more and he throws it less, so it

1248
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: becomes more of like a weapon pitch than like the

1249
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,320
Speaker 2: pitch he leans on because that fastball is so comfortable

1250
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 2: with Now he's he's so freaky. He could be one

1251
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: of like the rare guys that has like twenty five

1252
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: percent strike up right fifty percent ground ball rate. That's

1253
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: like the pinnacle of pitching where you can do both

1254
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 2: of those things. Shan mc clenham's the only got to

1255
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: do that last year, like literally, and he had an

1256
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 2: amazing year that was just only derailed by injury. He

1257
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: doesn't make it looks like a freak of nature, and

1258
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 2: he's a big reason why this Dodgers team can still

1259
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 2: make a deep playoff run even with all the losses

1260
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: they've had.

1261
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, I mean, they're still a very good team.

1262
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: We know that the Dodgers series are always close, so

1263
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: I'm super excited to see this one. There's gonna be

1264
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: a fun series. I'm sure you're excited to get out

1265
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: to some games out there in La James. So again,

1266
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 1: if anybody's out there, go find James. I'm sure I'll

1267
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: have some stickers for you. Pushing the Mets Up podcast

1268
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: across the coast in California. Anything else to talk about here?

1269
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: Is it time to wrap up this episode?

1270
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: It's time to wrap I mean excited everyone, Maybe keep

1271
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: an eye out for what could be a bonus episode

1272
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 2: that comes out maybe sometime on Monday, about some player

1273
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 2: that could possibly be joining the Mets that day.

1274
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:42,320
Speaker 1: Maybe if there's any news that becomes official on anything,

1275
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: expect us to make an emerge. I don't want to

1276
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: call an emergency episode, but a little episode to talk

1277
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: about whatever.

1278
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 2: That.

1279
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that news that is now official maybe could possibly be.

1280
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: I love how vague we are. It sounds like maybe

1281
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: maybe maybe if you say really quickly, maybe maybe maybe

1282
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 2: that's kind of what it sounds like.

1283
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: I get to just the Thank you guys so much

1284
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: for listening and watching this episode of the Mets Up podcast.

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00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,719
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Speaker 1: like to listen to us, which we hope you do,

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Speaker 1: listen to us on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google podcasts, out

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Speaker 1: to see wherever you get a podcast, we exist there

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Speaker 1: so subscribe to the podcast, download those episodes, and hey,

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Speaker 1: We do appreciate it really does help grow the podcast.

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