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Speaker 2: Tyler sitting by best and Worst of the weekend, as
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Speaker 2: of this program. Got a pull question for hour two,
Speaker 2: got a couple of stats of the day as well,
Speaker 2: and got a little bit of information. It's kind of
Speaker 2: a hedge by Adam Schefter. He says that the Packers
Speaker 2: and Matt Lafleur are leaning towards working on a contract extension.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if you're leaning towards working out,
Speaker 2: Are you working on a contract extension or you might
Speaker 2: be so kind of hedging your bets there with if
Speaker 2: something doesn't happen, Well, they were leaning towards working on it,
Speaker 2: so right now, it doesn't really feel like that's much
Speaker 2: of a report.
Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, if.
Speaker 4: You're Matt Leaflora's agent, did you call this morning with
Speaker 4: the friendliest offer to extend your client the packers could.
Speaker 3: Receive well their meeting today.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm saying is when you go to that meeting
Speaker 4: or you start working on it, you make it a
Speaker 4: friendlier deal than you may have for the packers to
Speaker 4: get done quickly before they could have chances to talk
Speaker 4: to other people.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing they've already talked to other people. I'm guessing,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. If I go in there and say, hey,
Speaker 2: I didn't do a very good job, I'm going to
Speaker 2: take less. I don't think you can go in there
Speaker 2: with your hat in your hand. I think you got
Speaker 2: to go in there and just say, hey, you know
Speaker 2: I want we got to get over the hump here
Speaker 2: and with a healthy roster, and we learn from these mistakes,
Speaker 2: and you know we're going to be the team to
Speaker 2: beat in the NFC next year. I firmly believe that
Speaker 2: now he might say, I don't want my client to
Speaker 2: be a lame duck coach where he's coaching in the
Speaker 2: last year of his contract.
Speaker 3: That would be the part.
Speaker 2: If I'm the agent that I would say, hey, let's
Speaker 2: just not hang him out to dry here where every loss,
Speaker 2: every press conference is going to be about coaching for
Speaker 2: your job. If you're comfortable with my client, then let's
Speaker 2: sign him up. We want to stay here, and we
Speaker 2: truly believe in this organization, in this team, in this city,
Speaker 2: in this fan base.
Speaker 3: And you know, it still goes back to, Okay, who
Speaker 3: were you bringing in? Now?
Speaker 2: If John Harbaugh is coming in, then you're not leaning
Speaker 2: towards working out a deal. If you've already made up
Speaker 2: your mind that you want to go all in on
Speaker 2: John Harbaugh. Okay, but if you don't get him, then
Speaker 2: what poll question for hour two seton? Uh?
Speaker 3: Actually, we'll clean up what we did in hour one.
Speaker 5: Well, I think we just start right there. Who would
Speaker 5: be is it the better coach for the Packers Matt Leflora,
Speaker 5: John Harbaugh or who would be the best coach?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll go back to what I said last hour.
Speaker 2: If John Harball hasn't gotten a two time MVP over
Speaker 2: the Hump, what leads you to believe he'll do that
Speaker 2: with Jordan Love and the Packers? That would be the
Speaker 2: question that I would have. We love to move on
Speaker 2: we love change, you know, get rid of that guy.
Speaker 2: Who were we bringing in? I don't know, but you
Speaker 2: got to get rid of Mike McDaniel. Okay, who are
Speaker 2: you bringing in? If you don't get John Harbaugh who
Speaker 2: you're bringing in?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you can't take a chance like Jacksonville
Speaker 2: did on Liam Cohen and that worked out. But I
Speaker 2: don't think there's a track record that says and John
Speaker 2: Harball I think has one more games than all but
Speaker 2: eleven coaches in NFL history.
Speaker 3: I think he's twelfth on the all time victory.
Speaker 2: List victory list, but that doesn't he had a two
Speaker 2: time MVP at quarterback and had no playoffs success. Where's
Speaker 2: Matt Lafleur rank As far as his salary.
Speaker 4: It's estimated that he makes over five million dollars a year, which,
Speaker 4: while it's good, he's ranked eighteenth of current coaches. He
Speaker 4: signed his extension in twenty twenty two, so a ton
Speaker 4: of coaches have been signed since then for ten plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's on the low half. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, almost seems like a bargain at five million dollars.
Speaker 2: But I can't have him be elamed. You either have
Speaker 2: to keep him or move on. You can't do that
Speaker 2: sort of pregnant like. No, it's either you're our guy,
Speaker 2: give him the total commitment that you know we're with.
Speaker 3: You, or you move on from him.
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Speaker 2: Cindy in California, Good morning, Cindy, what's on your mind?
Speaker 7: Good morning? See first time, longtime, longtime Packers fan. I
Speaker 7: just wanted to mention it seems like it's been kind
Speaker 7: of looked over that the Packers are missing their best
Speaker 7: tight end, Tucker Kraft and Michael Parson's best pass rusher.
Speaker 7: I think if they were healthy would be seeing a
Speaker 7: different picture. I think they probably could have beat the
Speaker 7: Bears and McManus if he had made one field full
Speaker 7: and an extra point, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Speaker 7: They would have beat the Bears, or at least tightum
Speaker 7: gone into overtime or both field goals they would have won.
Speaker 7: Would we be having this conversation about Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 2: So well, you know that the report was if the Ravens,
Speaker 2: even if they made the playoffs. They were going to
Speaker 2: move on from John Harball. Now that sounds crazy, but
Speaker 2: that was the report that was out there. And maybe
Speaker 2: if the Packers are going to make a move, they
Speaker 2: would have made a move even if the Packers won
Speaker 2: that game.
Speaker 3: But you're up twenty one to three. That's part of
Speaker 3: the problem.
Speaker 2: So I can credit you for getting up twenty one
Speaker 2: to three, But man, can I put some blame on
Speaker 2: you because you let a double digit fourth quarter lead
Speaker 2: slip away?
Speaker 3: And it happened to the Bears. It happened against the Bears.
Speaker 2: David in Ohio, Good morning, David, Best and worst of
Speaker 2: the weekend?
Speaker 8: Hey, Dan, I got a best of the weekend. A
Speaker 8: question for Todd Best of the weekend was watching the
Speaker 8: Paully's Bears pull a eighteen point comeback against the Green
Speaker 8: Bay Packers, something they hadn't done since October twenty, two
Speaker 8: thousand and one, when Jim Miller led the Cardiac Bears
Speaker 8: back from nineteen down against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 9: And then my question for toddrop knowing.
Speaker 8: That he's his team is playing the Buffalo Bills next week,
Speaker 8: how many folding tables would you jump through to win
Speaker 8: a Super Bowl?
Speaker 10: This year. Thank you.
Speaker 3: Oh we're not having Todd jump through any folding tables.
Speaker 6: No, maybe maybe if they were made up some kind
Speaker 6: of nerve material, But even then i'd.
Speaker 2: Find it with Yeah, I can't. I can't run that
Speaker 2: risk of losing you getting impaled. Yeah, Paul, I.
Speaker 4: Would just like to see him unfold then refold the table.
Speaker 4: That accomplishment would be worth the Super Bowl.
Speaker 11: I'm dead serious.
Speaker 3: If he could take one of you unfold and fold
Speaker 3: up one of those tables.
Speaker 11: I could not say with the hundred percent confidence that
Speaker 11: I can eye.
Speaker 2: I truly believe that, I truly believe that. You know what,
Speaker 2: maybe we'll get one of those folding tables. We'll see
Speaker 2: what you can do. By the way, Todd has asked
Speaker 2: me four times already this morning about the psychic, the
Speaker 2: dog's psychic that I had on Friday night. Just want
Speaker 2: to let you know that my daughter and I she
Speaker 2: had her main coon cat, I had my dog Winnie.
Speaker 2: We spoke to a animal psychic. Now we didn't zoom.
Speaker 2: It was just over a phone call. But she did
Speaker 2: have pictures of our animals, and so she had a picture,
Speaker 2: a couple of pictures of Winnie and a couple of
Speaker 2: pictures of Kevin the cat, and she started with me
Speaker 2: with Winnie and for thirty minutes. She said, what kind
Speaker 2: of questions do you have that you want me to
Speaker 2: ask Winnie? I said, well, ask her if she loves
Speaker 2: me more than anybody else in the family.
Speaker 3: Who does she love most? Yes?
Speaker 2: And she said, yes, she does love you more than
Speaker 2: anybody like she is always by your side. She is codependent.
Speaker 2: She would sleep with you if she could. And then
Speaker 2: you know, you just ask a couple of different questions.
Speaker 2: You know, is she happy? You know what makes her nervous?
Speaker 2: You know what can I do better as an owner?
Speaker 2: And then I asked about her health at the end.
Speaker 2: So it's thirty minutes. And then the animal psychic then
Speaker 2: talk to my daughter about her cat, and she said,
Speaker 2: your cat thinks he is more important than anybody else
Speaker 2: in your household, which is true. He does walk around
Speaker 2: like everybody is beneath him. And you know, she had
Speaker 2: some insights there. I was trying to keep an open mind,
Speaker 2: and I thought it was beneficial, rewarding.
Speaker 3: And you know, if you want to find out something,
Speaker 3: you know, give it a shot.
Speaker 6: Yes, Ton, what cat doesn't walk around thinking he or
Speaker 6: she is the God's gift, and they have that attitude
Speaker 6: and that arrogance, like you know you could do no wrong,
Speaker 6: and that they're in charge.
Speaker 2: My son said the same thing, and I offered up
Speaker 2: two examples of previous cats that we had that didn't
Speaker 2: act like that. So, yes, cats do walk around like
Speaker 2: they're better than everybody, but I've had cats that did
Speaker 2: not that. They were kind of subservient. Yes, PAULI a
Speaker 2: couple of things. Animal psychic sounds like a news show
Speaker 2: on CBS. First of all, so this was not necessarily
Speaker 2: a psychic. This was more of a medium or a
Speaker 2: clairvoyant that could talk to the cat, almost like, yeah,
Speaker 2: someone who talks to the dead. Yes, because the cat
Speaker 2: jumps up on the counter sometimes, right, So.
Speaker 4: You had questions for your dog that the clairvoyant or
Speaker 4: medium could pass along and get information.
Speaker 10: Back to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's awesome.
Speaker 4: That's way different than I thought.
Speaker 2: And then we said, can you tell Kevin to stop
Speaker 2: jumping up on the kitchen counter? And then she said
Speaker 2: he said no about Kevin, and I mean that is Kevin.
Speaker 2: He would have said no, but uh, that was fun.
Speaker 2: It was a nice Christmas gift.
Speaker 5: Yes, when he just said, and oh, by the way,
Speaker 5: I like peanut butter, so a little more peanut butter.
Speaker 2: And I would I would have believed her if she's
Speaker 2: you know what she did say? I said, how's Winnie's diet?
Speaker 2: And the animal psychic goes, she would like some vegetables
Speaker 2: and fruit as well. I said, oh, okay, she goes carrots,
Speaker 2: some strawberries, banana. I said, wait, she's given you a
Speaker 2: grocery list here?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 3: Done?
Speaker 6: What percentage of confidence did you walk away with feeling
Speaker 6: like she actually spoke to these animals?
Speaker 11: And those were the responses.
Speaker 3: I tried to have an open mind, Todd, But.
Speaker 11: What is the final tally if you had a pop
Speaker 11: that being real?
Speaker 2: I believe in the psychic, kind of like Packer fans
Speaker 2: believing in Matt Lafleur.
Speaker 11: So just figure it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah you believe she believes it?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was nice.
Speaker 2: It was you know, Friday night, and uh, I mean,
Speaker 2: what better way to kick off your weekend than talking
Speaker 2: to an animal psychic?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 6: What if you were to put the psychic on the
Speaker 6: spot said what exactly do I feed my dog?
Speaker 13: Like?
Speaker 6: As far as the products that I choose when I
Speaker 6: go to the market. Would she be able to have
Speaker 6: you know, she just has to the dog, and the
Speaker 6: dog can say you know and be able to tell
Speaker 6: you exactly what it is. I might have gotten a
Speaker 6: little messy if you put it on the spot with that.
Speaker 3: That's not what I was supposed to do.
Speaker 11: Ton, Where do I take her for a walk? Exc
Speaker 11: what's the name? Thank you?
Speaker 10: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Ton?
Speaker 2: Rudy in Riverside, Hi Rudy. As we returned to our
Speaker 2: regularly scheduled program.
Speaker 9: Hey, how you guys doing, pat uh pat? Listen, I'm
Speaker 9: sorry I lost my train. I thought right when you
Speaker 9: when you got to me. I just wanted to say
Speaker 9: something for all the Niner fans. Bang Bang, Escalator Gang.
Speaker 9: It's not it's it's not house money. I mean, Kittle
Speaker 9: is already maybe not going to play next year. The
Speaker 9: CMC is a year older the the The Yorks didn't
Speaker 9: believe in the Niners enough not to not to go
Speaker 9: in free agency and get him a pass rusher. It's
Speaker 9: another year that they're not going to win. Now. The
Speaker 9: zombie Niners have played really good, but the Seahawks are
Speaker 9: probably gonna put it up to the ass and then
Speaker 9: the rounds will take Chicago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but nobody thought the Niners would have gonna get
Speaker 2: this far. Like they defied the odds. You know, It's
Speaker 2: like the Panthers, that was house money. You made it,
Speaker 2: you know, squeaked into the playoffs. The Niners with all
Speaker 2: of those injuries, and those injuries happened early in the season,
Speaker 2: and the fact that you were in Philly and you're
Speaker 2: a four and a half point I was surprised they
Speaker 2: were only a four and a half point underdog. But
Speaker 2: you know that tells you what Vegas thinks of the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. But yeah, it felt like house money,
Speaker 2: and that's not a bad way to go. Seattle has
Speaker 2: all the pressure. Seattle's at home. You're the number one
Speaker 2: seed the Niners. This is house money. You're going in
Speaker 2: and you're not. You're a seven, seven and a half
Speaker 2: point underdog, So yes, this is house money. Do you
Speaker 2: want to win?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 3: Are you expected to win?
Speaker 10: No?
Speaker 3: Is Seattle a better team? Yes?
Speaker 2: But so is Philadelphia and the Niners somehow found a way.
Speaker 2: Give credit to them. Give credit to them. All right,
Speaker 2: Uh more phone calls. We'll talk to Ross Tucker, our
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Speaker 3: Tucker Football Podcast. What do you expect to happen tonight?
Speaker 14: I expect to be really cold, Dan. I think it's
Speaker 14: a high of thirty seven. I am planning and plotting
Speaker 14: out how many layers I'm gonna be wearing right now.
Speaker 2: Is there a chance to have a jacket or coat
Speaker 2: that's similar to what Aaron Andrews was wearing yesterday?
Speaker 14: No, I don't, and in fact, I haven't even talked
Speaker 14: to my wife yet about what I'm gonna wear. I
Speaker 14: usually wear this like bright orange ski jacket because I
Speaker 14: try to get as much TV time as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 14: it's I'm trying to amuse myself, Dan, right, So anytime,
Speaker 14: everybody to follow me on social media at Ross Tucker NFL,
Speaker 14: so you see what I'm wearing.
Speaker 10: Because anytime a player goes out of bounds, I immediately
Speaker 10: go over there try to help them up. I try
Speaker 10: to get as much TV time as possible. Dan, for
Speaker 10: the brand, it's important, you know.
Speaker 2: Is Mike Tomlin I don't want to say is he
Speaker 2: coaching for his job? Because it feels like if he
Speaker 2: wants to continue to coach, he can in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Do you get that? Since thousand percent?
Speaker 14: Okay, I think that win against the Ravens was massive.
Speaker 14: I think if Mike Tomlin wants to be in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 14: he'll be in Pittsburgh. If tonight's a disaster, I think
Speaker 14: that there's a chance maybe he'll think it's.
Speaker 10: Time to move on. I tend to doubt it.
Speaker 14: I feel like they're going to probably bring back Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 14: and I think that they believe, no matter what happens tonight,
Speaker 14: that they're close enough that maybe with Rogers next year,
Speaker 14: they could win a couple of playoff games and go
Speaker 14: on a run.
Speaker 10: I think Tomlin knows he.
Speaker 14: Can wait some other time to do TV, but I
Speaker 14: do think that'll be the transition. I think he'll do
Speaker 14: a Sean Payton sabbatical year at some point, where he
Speaker 14: does television for a year and then goes back to
Speaker 14: another team at some point.
Speaker 2: Well, your Eagles at home, with all of that talent,
Speaker 2: are staying at home for the playoffs. How surprised were you?
Speaker 14: You know, It's funny that you ask it in that way,
Speaker 14: because I am surprised specifically in that game, But if
Speaker 14: you watched every snap they played all year, you shouldn't
Speaker 14: be overly surprised because it's kind of how they played.
Speaker 11: All year, you know.
Speaker 10: I guess I thought Dan they had rested their guys.
Speaker 10: They were very healthy going into that one.
Speaker 14: Really, with the exception of Lane Johnson, the Niners were
Speaker 14: so beat up. The Niners had to play Seattle last week,
Speaker 14: and really, let's be honest, Seattle beat the crap out
Speaker 14: of them up front, both sides of the ball. It
Speaker 14: just kind of felt like the Eagles with that defense
Speaker 14: would be able to turn it on.
Speaker 10: I thought they'd win the game.
Speaker 14: I thought there was a chance they would kind of
Speaker 14: pull away in the fourth quarter. It's really remarkable if
Speaker 14: you think about it. I mean, brock Perty had two
Speaker 14: bad interceptions to Quinnon Mitchell, the Eagles didn't turn it
Speaker 14: over once. The Eagles sa Juan Barkley ran for over
Speaker 14: one hundred yards.
Speaker 10: And they still lost the game. And I'm sitting there
Speaker 10: calling the game with Iron Eagle, wondering how many guys
Speaker 10: for the forty nine ers right now would even start
Speaker 10: for the Eagles. I mean, it's it's like a handful,
Speaker 10: you know.
Speaker 14: I mean, Diamodor Lenore would probably start at the one.
Speaker 14: I'm not gonna go through all of them, but it's
Speaker 14: less than five. Maybe it's five, I don't know, it's
Speaker 14: not many guys for the forty nine ers would start
Speaker 14: for the Eagles, which is why I would say that
Speaker 14: game yesterday and this season and in particular are really
Speaker 14: a massive missed opportunity for the Eagles.
Speaker 10: You know, Dan, You've been doing this a long time.
Speaker 10: Windows are small.
Speaker 14: The Eagles have the best roster in the NFL probably again,
Speaker 14: and most of them are in their prime, and to
Speaker 14: not even win a playoff game, and in particular to
Speaker 14: lose at home to that beat up team, that's one
Speaker 14: that you know, people will look back on and say,
Speaker 14: how did that happen when we had that roster and
Speaker 14: that group of guys that they didn't go on any
Speaker 14: type of run in the postseason.
Speaker 3: Any fallout in Philadelphia.
Speaker 10: I think there will be a decent amount of changes. Yeah.
Speaker 14: I mean, if you think about it, a couple of
Speaker 14: years ago, when they had the disappointing ending, they moved
Speaker 14: on from both coordinators. They brought in Kellen Moore and
Speaker 14: Vic Fangio, and those were big factors in them going
Speaker 14: ahead and winning the Super Bowl year. They also were
Speaker 14: aggressive getting guys like Saquon Barkley and others. You know, certainly,
Speaker 14: it feels like they'll probably have a new offensive coordinator,
Speaker 14: right or wrong, You know, I think the perception is
Speaker 14: such that I'd be surprised if Kevin Patulo kept his job.
Speaker 14: It feels like it's run its course with aj Brown.
Speaker 14: Maybe not, we'll see. It's a pretty big dead cap
Speaker 14: hit if they trade him before June first. But there's
Speaker 14: certainly some significant changes along the way because.
Speaker 10: They know this. They're very smart.
Speaker 14: They know that this was a big, big, missed opportunity
Speaker 14: and that they only have a couple more years here
Speaker 14: with this core group being in their prime and having
Speaker 14: a chance to really make a run at this thing.
Speaker 3: What do you think happens in Green Bay?
Speaker 14: Well, so what's so interesting about that is, you know,
Speaker 14: I saw where Chefty tweeted that the Packers are to
Speaker 14: work out a deal with Lafleur, you know, over the
Speaker 14: next couple of days. I've never understood this stand I
Speaker 14: this absolute people being terrified of a coach going in
Speaker 14: the last year of his contract. Why why is that
Speaker 14: such a big deal? Because it's a talking point.
Speaker 10: I mean, it's a talking point about whether or not
Speaker 10: the guy is going to keep his job. Like if
Speaker 10: Lafleur gets a new contract and the Packers struggle, it's
Speaker 10: still going to be a talking point. I don't know.
Speaker 14: I've never understood why players going to last year of
Speaker 14: their contract all the time, and by the way, they
Speaker 14: have injury risk. But these organizations are so afraid. It's
Speaker 14: pretty clear that there's a little bit of consternation there
Speaker 14: with Lafleur's lack of playoff success.
Speaker 10: And so to give him some new deal for fifteen
Speaker 10: to twenty million dollars a year for four years, that
Speaker 10: doesn't really make sense to me. I mean, it's pretty
Speaker 10: clear that they want to see more results. Let them
Speaker 10: coach out the last year. Let him coach out the
Speaker 10: last year. When's the last.
Speaker 14: Time a coach was on a last year was contract?
Speaker 14: It went unbelievably.
Speaker 10: Well, he was a free agent and then he went
Speaker 10: somewhere else. That doesn't happen. That's not a thing.
Speaker 2: But you got the John Harbaugh question. So that's the curveball.
Speaker 2: With all of these openings and even openings that aren't open,
Speaker 2: potential openings, where do you think John Harball is going
Speaker 2: to end up?
Speaker 14: Ooh, you know, I think there's it's very it was
Speaker 14: very intentional that he wanted to see wait till this
Speaker 14: week to take any interviews because I think he believed
Speaker 14: that if Buffalo lost, maybe that one would have opened up,
Speaker 14: and that if Green Bay, you know, they're the potential there.
Speaker 14: It doesn't sound like that's gonna happen, but you know,
Speaker 14: there still could be a mutual parting of the ways
Speaker 14: there between the Packers and Matt Lafleur if those contract
Speaker 14: discussions don't go as well as they would like. So,
Speaker 14: I think those would have been the two that he
Speaker 14: would have strongly considered the most, just because you know,
Speaker 14: he's in this thing now to try to win Super Bowls.
Speaker 14: I mean, he's made a ton of money, He's been
Speaker 14: doing it a long time, and those are the two
Speaker 14: that would give him the best chance to do that.
Speaker 14: Other than that, it becomes fascinating. How does he feel
Speaker 14: about Jackson Dart, How does he feel about cam Ward?
Speaker 14: I mean, how's he feel about the Cleveland situation. I
Speaker 14: guess if he went to Cleveland, that would give him
Speaker 14: the opportunity to, I don't know, stick it to the
Speaker 14: Ravens if that's something he wants.
Speaker 10: To do, I don't know. You know, it's a big
Speaker 10: difference between where he's been and where he's going to
Speaker 10: go because he's going to go to a team that
Speaker 10: it's going to be kind of like a rebuild for Harball,
Speaker 10: and he never really had that. When he went to Baltimore,
Speaker 10: they had Ray Lewis and Ed Reid and all these
Speaker 10: guys and they made the playoffs that first year.
Speaker 14: We've never really seen John Harball have to take a
Speaker 14: bad team, you know, from the bottom and grow them up.
Speaker 10: To being a playoff caliber team. I don't even know.
Speaker 14: I guess we'll find out if that's where he lands
Speaker 14: with one of them, whether or not he can even
Speaker 14: do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I brought up you know, do you
Speaker 2: go to Tennessee because you have a franchise quarterback and
Speaker 2: you got cap room? But as you said, you know
Speaker 2: that's that's a process, that's a couple of years. And
Speaker 2: does he have the patience to build something? You know,
Speaker 2: when when Jim Harball was in the NFL, he had
Speaker 2: the Niners with a lot of talent, took him to
Speaker 2: a Super Bowl. Even with the Chargers. You don't jump
Speaker 2: to another or go to another job unless you go
Speaker 2: can I succeed? How long will it take to be formidable?
Speaker 2: Can we win a Super Bowl? And you bring up
Speaker 2: something great? He would love to add another Super Bowl
Speaker 2: there or at least compete for it. But I go
Speaker 2: back to, and I keep saying this over and over,
Speaker 2: is is he the kind of coach who gets you
Speaker 2: over the hump? Like how many coaches get a two
Speaker 2: time MVP but don't do much with them.
Speaker 14: Well, and what's so wild about that is that if
Speaker 14: Lamar won the MVP last year, like a lot of
Speaker 14: people thought he should, he'd be a three time MVP
Speaker 14: with three playoff wins. That's the thing that I think
Speaker 14: is puzzling about Hardball Dan. He won ten playoff games
Speaker 14: with Joe Flacco. Now they had a really good defense. Okay,
Speaker 14: multiple Hall of famers, we know, especially those first couple
Speaker 14: of years for Flaco, not as much you know when
Speaker 14: they won the Super Bowl. So Harball has proven that
Speaker 14: he can win at the highest level, and he won
Speaker 14: a super Bowl.
Speaker 10: But I mean, he's not gonna feel some back.
Speaker 3: It feels like Lamar gets the blame, not John Harbaugh.
Speaker 14: I think you're right, and there's a reason for that.
Speaker 14: It's because Harball had already won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 10: Okay. It's like we all have these boxes we check.
Speaker 2: So if Jelin doesn't have a Super Bowl, he's probably
Speaker 2: not the coach in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 14: I think that's probably true, although they've had three coaches
Speaker 14: since nineteen sixty nine. You know, they operate different than
Speaker 14: any other franchise.
Speaker 2: But if I say to a Steeler fan base, hey,
Speaker 2: you're not gonna win playoff games, but you're gonna be
Speaker 2: in the playoffs the next ten years with Mike Tomlin,
Speaker 2: the farthest you'll go is you'll win one playoff game
Speaker 2: a year a couple of time.
Speaker 10: Times.
Speaker 2: Do you think that Steeler fans are signing up for
Speaker 2: another ten and seven ninety eight barely make the playoffs
Speaker 2: and you're non threatening in the postseason. Absolutely not, okay,
Speaker 2: but they have.
Speaker 14: I live in central Pennsylvania. I'm close friends with a
Speaker 14: bunch of Steelers fans.
Speaker 10: Dan.
Speaker 14: There were Steelers fans that wanted them to lose to
Speaker 14: Baltimore because they're so fatigued with Tomlin. They're so sick
Speaker 14: of this a little bit better than mediocrity. They they're
Speaker 14: they're ready for a change.
Speaker 2: There's no question Patriots and the Chargers. Patriots you know,
Speaker 2: did just enough. You know, justin Herbert As if he
Speaker 2: didn't know that he didn't have a good offensive line,
Speaker 2: he was reminded that he doesn't have a good offensive line.
Speaker 2: But the Patriots are doing it with a defense that
Speaker 2: is kind of nondescript. It doesn't mean that they didn't
Speaker 2: they don't have talent there, or they didn't spend money.
Speaker 2: It's just they don't have those big names that we've
Speaker 2: seen before. So how do they how do they go
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl?
Speaker 14: Probably somewhat similar to what they did last night, you know.
Speaker 14: And then they got to get Christian Zalas back because
Speaker 14: he's their best defensive player. And I thought Milton Williams
Speaker 14: stepped up, which they really needed. But it's gonna be
Speaker 14: Drake May ultimately, not just his arm but his legs.
Speaker 14: I thought Collinsworth made a really good point early in
Speaker 14: the game last night when he talked about the quarterback
Speaker 14: that ran it better, you know, would ultimately be the
Speaker 14: team that won.
Speaker 10: That was a major factor in the game.
Speaker 14: And by the way, Dan very surprised that Jalen Hurts
Speaker 14: did not run it more for Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: But that's been the whole year.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's he averaged like ten attempts this year,
Speaker 2: just over six. That seems by design or by choice.
Speaker 14: Yeah, no, And think about like, think about watching the
Speaker 14: Bills Jags and think about Josh Allen when it really
Speaker 14: comes down to it, and what he does with his
Speaker 14: legs and the immense.
Speaker 10: Advantage that is for the Bills, and you don't see that.
Speaker 10: It's funny.
Speaker 14: I was struck watching Herbert last night that he's sort
Speaker 14: of like he's like a poor man's Josh Allen. He's big,
Speaker 14: strong arm, can run. And I love Justin Herbert, but Dan,
Speaker 14: Josh Allen makes the plays in the critical games more
Speaker 14: often than not.
Speaker 10: Herbert doesn't. It's like he's what are the kids called.
Speaker 10: He's like store brand Josh Allen, you know, It's like
Speaker 10: he's They're they're very, very similar, except Allen comes through
Speaker 10: and makes the plays at much higher percentage than Herbert
Speaker 10: when physically they're almost mirror images of each other. It's fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I asked Jim Harball this year, and I
Speaker 2: asked Justin Herbert, are you going to run more? Because
Speaker 2: we saw that at Oregon, we saw that in the
Speaker 2: Rose Bowl. He does have that ability. It's almost it
Speaker 2: feels like Josh Allen knows when he's going to run.
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert is kind of in the moment ready to run.
Speaker 10: That's a terrific point.
Speaker 14: It feels like Josh Allen sometimes decides before the play,
Speaker 14: and it feels like Josh Allen wills him stuff. I
Speaker 14: think he's a little heavier than Herbert, a little bit
Speaker 14: more agile, and I think he's a little bit faster.
Speaker 10: But it's just that little difference that is the difference.
Speaker 14: Josh Allen can put on Superman's cape more off than
Speaker 14: Herbert can.
Speaker 2: What happens at halftime with the Packers and the Bears
Speaker 2: that changes that game, I.
Speaker 10: Don't know, and I still can't figure out how that happened.
Speaker 10: I really can't.
Speaker 14: I mean, think, like, say this out loud. The Bears
Speaker 14: defense is not very good. They're really opportunistic. They got
Speaker 14: zero turnovers, Kayleb boys, they were one for four in
Speaker 14: the first half. On fourth down, Kayleb. Williams threw two
Speaker 14: picks in the red zone for the Bears, and the
Speaker 14: Bears won the game. I mean, if you just write down,
Speaker 14: like if you do.
Speaker 10: Bullet points or say it out loud, there is no
Speaker 10: way the Bears should have won that game. And yet
Speaker 10: the miskicks and whatever and they did it. It's just remarkable.
Speaker 10: What they done. I cannot wait for that Rams Bears game.
Speaker 2: Be careful on the sidelines, okay, because I know you're
Speaker 2: working the sidelines tonight. Don't get too close to the
Speaker 2: action where you get wiped out.
Speaker 10: Oh, I get way back as soon as they got
Speaker 10: to the numbers. I'm out of there. I'm actually coming.
Speaker 14: Back in to try to get my TV time while
Speaker 14: all the people that are clueless are backing up at
Speaker 14: the last second.
Speaker 3: You're gonna have a big yellow parka on tonight.
Speaker 10: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 14: My wife thinks it's unprofessional to wear my orange jacket,
Speaker 14: so you gotta you gotta follow me on social media
Speaker 14: at Ross Tucker, NFL. I might wear like a pea
Speaker 14: coat or something. Oh, that makes me see more professional.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Are you gonna wear a hat?
Speaker 10: No? No, like a newspaper delivery boy hat.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 3: No, like Tom Landry a Tom Landry hat. No.
Speaker 10: No, it's too cold. I gotta cover my ears. I'm
Speaker 10: gonna have like a you know, like a skull cap on.
Speaker 10: All right?
Speaker 3: Maybe a scarf.
Speaker 14: No, I'm anti scarf. Scarf guys are trying too hard.
Speaker 14: Scarf guys are like fancy you know what I mean,
Speaker 14: like a scarf guy. You only put a scarf on
Speaker 14: if you think you're really cool, And I'm not that
Speaker 14: type of person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're from the IVY League. Ivy League, that's scarfy.
Speaker 10: I'm from reading Pennsylvania way before us from the IVY League.
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Speaker 2: Go around the infield, Todd, I'll start with you best
Speaker 2: and worst to the weekend.
Speaker 11: Best to the weekend.
Speaker 6: Although they blew an early fourteen nothing lead against a
Speaker 6: Panther team considered far inferior, MVP candidate Matthew Stafford kept
Speaker 6: his cool, kept his composure. Injured finger led the Rams
Speaker 6: to a late touchdown drive they win the game. They
Speaker 6: soldier on to Soldier Field. Next Worst Saturday Night and
Speaker 6: saw Lake. The Jazz lose one hundred and fifty to
Speaker 6: ninety five at home to Charlotte. It was forty five
Speaker 6: fourteen after one seventy seven thirty eight at a halftime.
Speaker 6: Nine different Hornets scored in double digits, second biggest winning
Speaker 6: franchise history for Sharot, largest ever on the road.
Speaker 3: Seaton' best and worst.
Speaker 5: My best was actually that drive in the Rams game
Speaker 5: that they put together to win it.
Speaker 2: That was truly impressive. Here's how it sounded. This is
Speaker 2: the Rams Radio network from the nineteen Stafford.
Speaker 15: Has it helmet high, settles his feet, shoots right side,
Speaker 15: leafy catch, touchdown, Lam wow at the front rights pylon.
Speaker 15: Colby Parkinson gives the Rams the lead with thirty eight
Speaker 15: seconds to go, and absolute dot from Stafford thirty three
Speaker 15: thirty one and the try coming.
Speaker 3: Rams Radio Network.
Speaker 5: Seaton, Yeah, that drive was incredible and it's almost like
Speaker 5: where you watch it, you're like, why.
Speaker 3: Don't you just do this all game?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 3: Spectacular.
Speaker 5: My worst of the weekend was watching some of the
Speaker 5: uh I didn't really have a dog in the fight
Speaker 5: here with Bears Packers, but watching some of those plays,
Speaker 5: I was like, dang, this is what's gonna get Matt
Speaker 5: before fired. This is why he's not going to be
Speaker 5: the coach anymore. And there was like some of those
Speaker 5: plays even on that final then the fourth quarter. I
Speaker 5: forget which touchdown it was, but there was a play
Speaker 5: there where like the linebacker for the Packers watches a
Speaker 5: wide receiver or so whoever, he goes right in front
Speaker 5: of him, catches the ball and then runs right around him,
Speaker 5: and the dude is like this in like an athletic position,
Speaker 5: just watching him do it. It's like, Yo, my guy,
Speaker 5: go tackle that's your guy right there, the one that
Speaker 5: just ran right in front of you to catch the ball.
Speaker 3: Go tackle him. What the hell are you doing? Marvin?
Speaker 13: My best of the weekend. Niners wide receiver DeMarcus Robinson
Speaker 13: came out of nowhere six receptions, one hundred and eleven yards,
Speaker 13: the first touchdown of the game won a first drive
Speaker 13: for the forty nine ers, So big game for him.
Speaker 13: Worst the final drives for the Panthers and the Jaguars.
Speaker 13: They both had ample opportunity to come away with a
Speaker 13: big upset and crap the bit, Paul, Best and worst.
Speaker 4: I've got two best, but one of them is the best.
Speaker 4: And worst Puka Nikoua the Rams was targeted eighteen times,
Speaker 4: had ten catches. He is such a focal point. He
Speaker 4: had a play where he dropped the ball that would
Speaker 4: have probably been a time touchdown, and the announcers were
Speaker 4: kind of like, oh, he dropped it it clearly he
Speaker 4: didn't have his head around and it was one of
Speaker 4: those plays he would have caught any time. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and nobody picked up on this. I'm watching and
Speaker 2: I go, it's not like he dropped it. It kind
Speaker 2: of either he lost it in the crowd or it
Speaker 2: was he turned later than he should have. But it's
Speaker 2: not like it was, hey, turn around and we're going
Speaker 2: to throw you this football. He catches that. It surprised
Speaker 2: him a little bit. He didn't even get his hands
Speaker 2: up all the way and none of the analysts were
Speaker 2: picking up on that.
Speaker 3: What else, Paully, My.
Speaker 4: Other best was Bears of rookie tight end Colston Lovelin
Speaker 4: eight catches, one thirty seven, carried the team in the
Speaker 4: second half.
Speaker 3: Kay, and he was the other tight end in that draft.
Speaker 4: A lot of people thought Tyler Warren a Penn State
Speaker 4: would go and should go first.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Wait, a great season. Yeah he did, Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: But wasn't it Trey McBride who was one vote away
Speaker 2: from being unanimous All Pro at tight end? He had
Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five catch I believe, and I
Speaker 2: think he had eleven touchdowns. He was the offense for Arizona.
Speaker 2: Those are unbelievable numbers. And I think somebody may have
Speaker 2: voted for George Kittle for All Pro tight end.
Speaker 4: We're checking that right now, but yes, Trey McBride won
Speaker 4: twenty six for and thirty nine yards.
Speaker 3: And eleven incredible.
Speaker 2: Even George Kittle would have said vote for Trey McBride.
Speaker 13: Yes, Marvin, is he easily the best player in the
Speaker 13: NFL that no one knows.
Speaker 3: I'm sure there's a few of those.
Speaker 10: You know.
Speaker 2: I loved watching him because he caught everything. He didn't
Speaker 2: get any touchdowns the previous year, but he but it,
Speaker 2: you know, had whatever one hundred catches. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he had a touchdown, but then this year he
Speaker 2: had one hundred and twenty six catches and I think
Speaker 2: eleven touchdowns.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Mark, but if we talk about tight ends in
Speaker 13: the NFL, we're gonna say Kelsey and Bowers and Kittle
Speaker 13: and even Tyler Warren in Lovelace before we even say
Speaker 13: Trey McBride in the public consciences.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well he's not a bad team. That doesn't
Speaker 2: you know. They got a lot of one o'clock games
Speaker 2: people aren't noticing. Yeah, Paul, I.
Speaker 4: Would throw out Danil Hunter of the Texans, the rush
Speaker 4: linebacker rush end as the best player in the league
Speaker 4: for like eight years that no one's talked about. He's
Speaker 4: not the best player, but he's going to go to
Speaker 4: his sixth straight Pro Bowl and most people don't know
Speaker 4: about him.
Speaker 3: Dave in New York, Hi, Dave.
Speaker 16: Hey, dan ud class of ninety four, Go Friers brother.
Speaker 16: I'll give you my quick best and worst of the weekend.
Speaker 16: My daughter McKenzie's a perfect five for five on our picks,
Speaker 16: and she's got the Texans for tonight's game, so you
Speaker 16: can place your bets. But my worst. I am not
Speaker 16: a football clock management juggernaut, but I was literally shaking
Speaker 16: my head witnessing the Bills clock management in the game yesterday.
Speaker 16: Previous two drives for the Jaguars were touchdowns. They have
Speaker 16: the most dangerous long distance kicker in the league. You
Speaker 16: got three timeouts in the ball at the one with
Speaker 16: one left? How do you not drop down at the
Speaker 16: one inch line? Run forty seconds off the clock? Now
Speaker 16: you're running play two with three timeouts. You got three
Speaker 16: straight push pushes with Josh Allen. It's the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Jacksonville was letting them score unless you just
Speaker 2: you know, fall down and take a knee.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 4: Also, if you watch that play, there's at least two
Speaker 4: or three linemen pushing Josh Allen. They weren't stopping either.
Speaker 4: It's like they didn't get the message that they were
Speaker 4: supposed to go down.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the phone call, Dave Christian, Sacramento.
Speaker 12: Hi, Chris, I think Dan I got a bet, And
Speaker 12: where's in a food proposal for you?
Speaker 10: Cool?
Speaker 9: Bet is.
Speaker 12: Doos Allen and the Bills overcoming the Jaguars.
Speaker 8: Where's the weekend?
Speaker 10: By far?
Speaker 3: Is the Eagles moving to.
Speaker 12: The Niners and letting that go? Since I'm a diehard
Speaker 12: Eagle fan. But here's my business proposal for you, a
Speaker 12: food propole. Before I know you guys are going to
Speaker 12: sack or San Francisco for the Super Bowl, and I'm
Speaker 12: an executive chef or a breakfast and barbecue spot, and
Speaker 12: I was wondering if I can make you guys some
Speaker 12: first get breakfast burritos on Monday when you guys come out.
Speaker 12: If you guys are having people that come out on
Speaker 12: to see you guys.
Speaker 2: You know what, We'll put you on hold, Chris and
Speaker 2: I'll run it by. We have a meeting after the
Speaker 2: show to talk about all the things we're doing in
Speaker 2: San Francisco, and if there's a way that we could
Speaker 2: incorporate you, then we'll certainly consider that absolutely, and we
Speaker 2: will have an audience where we're going to be. We're
Speaker 2: going to be outside, not very far from the ballpark.
Speaker 2: The baseball park in San Francisco. I don't know what
Speaker 2: it's called now, is it Pac Bell, is it.
Speaker 3: Oracle? Oracle?
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so we'll be kind of in the shadows
Speaker 2: of Oracle. But we'll give you all that information as
Speaker 2: soon as we firm it up. Final hour on the way.
Speaker 2: Still more phone calls, as we always do every Monday,
Speaker 2: best and worst of the weekend. Fritzie Seaton, Marv Paulie,
Speaker 2: yours truly, we're back after this