1 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: This is the Colts Free Agent Tracker, a look at 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: some key in house free agents this offseason in the 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio studio. Here's the voice of 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: the Colts, Matt Taylor. Hey, welcome back the Free Agent 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Tracker podcasts returns. I'm Matt Taylor, Bill Brooks, Casey Valier 6 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: along in studio as well. This is our offseason in 7 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: house look at the in house free agents, if you will, 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: for the Indianapolis called seventeen of them either restricted unrestricted 9 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: free agents for the Colts. And it's it's here, I 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: mean free agency starts next Wednesday, the legal tampering period, 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 1: which sounds silly to say, yeah, we always I don't 12 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: understand this with that that begins on Monday. And so 13 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: far on our Free Agent Tracker series, we've taken a 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: hard look at Ashton Dewan, Bobby Okaka, Dennis Kelly, Matt Prior, 15 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: Taekwon Lewis, bin Banigu, Paris Campbell, Matt Hall, Chase McLoughlin, 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: Brandon Facing, and Rodney mcclown. Later on this week we're 17 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,840 Speaker 1: gonna take a look at EJ. Speed. But today Fellas, 18 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: it's all about the past Rush here it's about the 19 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: defensive end. It's coming off the edge. It's defensive end 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: unique and ghakway. Bill. You're ready to roll, my friend, 21 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: I'm ready to roll. Excited about free agencies. See what happens. 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: This is a fun time of the year to see 23 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: some movement going on out there in the National Football League. 24 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: They all started with the combine. It's past week, but 25 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: free agency is big, you know, Casey, once the Super 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: Bowl is over, you feel like, Okay, there's time to decompress. No, 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: it's time to kind of get ready gradually for the 28 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: upcoming season. Boom, here's the combine. Here's free agency. I mean, 29 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: we saw it on Monday. We're taping this on Tuesday, 30 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: right before free agency. We saw him Monday, a slew 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,559 Speaker 1: of moves. Derek Carr, We had the Geno Smith move. 32 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the NFL laughs at everything and everybody when 33 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 1: they think it's just gonna slow down. That's what I 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: always think about all the other professional sports, like their offseason, 35 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: they go away, like like we live here in Indiana 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: and I'm a Pacers fan, but when the Pacers season 37 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: is over, Honestly, I don't don't hear much about the 38 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Pacers for a couple of months in the NFL. I mean, 39 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 1: it is top of mind always, as Matt mention, I mean, 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: we see after the combine, you've got a free agent 41 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: signing and Derek Carr extensions are handed out. You're looking 42 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: at casualties, all these guys that are getting released. I mean, 43 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: just look at what's going on in the Colts Division 44 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: here with the Titans. I mean they've released four guys 45 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: and then now there's rumor they're shit, They're they're shopping 46 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 1: Derek Henry. I mean, this is a crazy time and 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: the Lou Lou League year hasn't even started yet, so 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: that is it is a fun time for twenty two 49 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: because the first weekend of the NCAA tournament is so 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: awesome for these reasons. But then you always have one 51 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,119 Speaker 1: eye on your phone with breaking news with free agency 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: and everything, so you can't really fully enjoy it because 53 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: you never know when you're gonna be yanked back into 54 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: you know, having to study a new player. Right you 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: almost be joining the fold there. You almost need that 56 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: fifth screen because you have the games games on four channels, 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: and you gotta have that other street for the NFL action. 58 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Oh god, that's the last thing we need another screen 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: and lasting phone screen. Dude, exactly terrible, but you laugh, 60 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: but it's kind of that's the reality of it. All. Right, 61 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: let's break down unique in Goackway here heading into free agency. 62 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:20,880 Speaker 1: As we've talked about, this is one of the more 63 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, marquee free agents that the Colts have in 64 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: terms of making a decision on. So last year, we 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: all know about the trade for in Goackway right there 66 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the new league year, I think 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: it was March sixteenth, so right around this time, the 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: Colts traded cornerback rock you scene to the Raiders in 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: exchange for in Goackway. Last year had a team high 70 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: nine and a half sacks that ranked second on the team, 71 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: or should say, uh the nine and a half sacks 72 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: number one ranked number two on the team, with sixteen 73 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: quarterback hits forty one pressures played fifteen out of seventeen games. 74 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 1: Missed the final two games because of that weird throat 75 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: injury that he had that kind of came out of 76 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: know where he's practicing, and then on Friday of the 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: next week, you know, went to doctors and trainers and said, hey, 78 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: I still got this going on, so they wisely shut 79 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: him down, had a procedure placed on ir so he 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: missed the last two games of the season. That was right, 81 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: I think right after Christmas. That happened four in goack way. 82 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: So Bill, I'll start with you, how do you view 83 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: this season that Unique had in his one year so 84 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: far with the Indianapolis Colts. You know, looking at unique 85 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: stats over the previous six years that he had played 86 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: before he got here, you look at the stats, you 87 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: have roughly averaged about nine sacks the game. I mean 88 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: nine sacks a season and roughly about twenty eight tackles 89 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: a season as well, And that's what he pretty much 90 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: had here. You know, he had nine and a half 91 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: sacks here this year and roughly about twenty nine I 92 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: think it's twenty nine tackles he had as well this year. 93 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: So I kind of expected that from Unique. I think 94 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: the one thing that I think helped the defense was 95 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: Unique can give some of those young guys. He gave 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Quitty pay Dio some information how to play in Gus 97 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: Bradley's defense as far as playing in that certain type 98 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: of defense that Gus Bradley has and help those young 99 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: guys kind of develop and move along. So what I 100 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: saw from I think I kind of expect it. Also 101 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: playing in the fifteen games. You know, it's hoping you 102 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 1: play seventeen. You know, it's a weird thing you mentioned 103 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 1: earlier about the throat, But what he did to this 104 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: past year I kind of expected and look forward to, 105 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe a few more tackles, but for 106 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: the most part I expected what he uh he produced. 107 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: You know, Casey, going back to those nine and a 108 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: half sacks, again, that's a good number if you if 109 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: you judge NFL defensive ends strictly by sacks, which we 110 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: kind of fall in the trap of doing and we 111 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't, but that nine and a half number, that's 112 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: pretty good by NFL standards. But some critics, case He 113 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: will say the nine and a half sacks were not 114 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: very impactful. Is that criticism fair? I think it's warranted, 115 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: but I don't know if it's entirely fair. Now, Matt, 116 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: you know me, I'm a big baseball guy. So when 117 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: I put it in baseball terms, the way I look 118 00:05:58,000 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: at it, you'll ever down. Then you look at some 119 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: of the hitters in baseball and they'll have thirty plus 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: home runs and you look at it and you're like, 121 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I don't remember doing them doing 122 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: it at all. And it may have came in times 123 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: when the game may have been out of reach, maybe 124 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 1: the pitcher wasn't thrown the best stuff, but it's still 125 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: something that it forces the opponent to look at. So 126 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: it may not be impactful when you're watching the game, 127 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, nine and a 128 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: half sacks, it gets the defensive coordinators or offensive coordinators 129 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: looking at it and they have to be aware of 130 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: what it is. So therefore that impacts the game. So 131 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: it may not have when you looked at it at 132 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 1: the big moments. It may not have been Yanique doing something, 133 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: but everything was there that he has proven he can 134 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: and it forces a change in the game plan. From 135 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: that aspect, I agree with Casey with that the guy 136 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: has to go out there and play. And also when 137 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: he gets those numbers, as you said, the offensive coordinate 138 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: it has to hey keeping his mind. Hey, this guy 139 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: can rush the passer, he can get to the quarterback, 140 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: he can wreck our offense. But also at times you know, yes, 141 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 1: you want him to rush the passer, but there's all 142 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: times he's doing other things to help other guys, you know, 143 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: get sacks and can get and produce some numbers out there. 144 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: So it's not always the numbers all the time. It's 145 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:07,919 Speaker 1: what that guy is doing for that team and for 146 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the defense at that time. This just kind of popped 147 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: in my head. I mean, going back to last year, 148 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: or I guess I should say the year before last, 149 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: So twenty twenty one, we always talked about the propensity 150 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: of double teams that DeForest Buckner Saul because the Colts 151 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: didn't have that year a legitimate, bonified threat off the edge. 152 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Quitty Pay was a rookie Dioa Dangbo was a rookie 153 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: die only played you know, ten games that year. I'm 154 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: just I really don't know the answer to this. I 155 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: don't expect you guys too, But off the top of 156 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: your head, build did you see nearly as many double 157 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: teams for DeForest Buckner because of the presence of Unique 158 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 1: and Goakway on the edge and his history of playmaking 159 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: ability at that position. To be honest with you, if 160 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: I couldn't answer that question, as you said right now, 161 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: off top of my head, but you would think from 162 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: what DeForrest has done in the past. I think he 163 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: would get a lot of double teams, which would hopefully 164 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,800 Speaker 1: free up and Away or whoever's working the other way around, 165 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: whether right or maybe Angaqways, you know, getting double team 166 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: and people will say, hey, you know what, we have 167 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: to be aware of him, and you're aware of Ngockway, 168 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: then you let the forest go and he gets a sack. 169 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 1: So you know, when you have someone that, as we 170 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: talked about earlier, that that threat to get those sacks, 171 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: you have to be aware of him. It changes things 172 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: at the office. Cording has to think about as far 173 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: as maybe his blocking scheme and things he wants to do, 174 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: because sometimes if you leave that one guy out there 175 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: at that tackle or that tight end on the end right, 176 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: it can be big problems for the offense. You know, 177 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: when you look at this and Gackway has at least 178 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: eight sacks seven consecutive seasons, Bill you talked about like 179 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: the history of of Inackway, Like what does the back 180 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: of his football cards say? That's what it says, He's 181 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: gonna get your eight sacks and it's happened seven consecutive years. 182 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: Third longest active streak in the NFL, one of only 183 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: five players in NFL history to record at least eight 184 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: sacks in their first seven seasons since that stat was 185 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,880 Speaker 1: officially tracked all the way back to nineteen eighty two. 186 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: He joins Reggie White, Aaron Donald, Derek Thomas, and DeMarcus 187 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: Ware Casey Value. I mean, that's some heavy hitters. I 188 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: mean those are core, elite defensive ends for sure. So 189 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: it begs the question, I mean, Casey, can the Cults 190 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: afford to lose that type of consistency? Especially now we 191 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 1: should throw this in there as well. Gus Bradley is 192 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: coming back. He's going to be the defensive coordinator, and 193 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: that is this system that is the coach that unique 194 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: and Gockway feels most comfortable with. Can the Can the 195 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: Colts afford to lose that much consistency despite when and 196 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: how these sacks Furnquay last year came? Yeah, that's that's 197 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. I Mean, you talk about one of 198 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: the key parts of football is you know, you in 199 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: order to be reliable, you have to be available. And 200 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: he has been available and he has been consistent. You 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: kind of know what you're gonna get, and that is 202 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: so key, especially when you're thinking about that position. You 203 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: want to be able to know you've got your guy 204 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: who has the ability get after the quarterback, and that 205 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: is one thing that Jannique has shown, and he has 206 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: shown it inside this Gus Bradley defense which he's so 207 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: familiar with. So all of those things would make it 208 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: believe that that would give him an upper level to 209 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: have a little bit of, you know, that that leg 210 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 1: to stand on in his case for free agency to 211 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: coming back here now. Prior to this week, I would 212 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: have said his market would be a little bit bigger 213 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: when it comes to free agency because the group of 214 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: pass rushers that are going to hit the open market 215 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: is a little less. But then we've seen Bud Dupree, 216 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: Frank Clark and then also Leonard Floyd all look to 217 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 1: be cap casualties for their teams. So it also lessens 218 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: that you know his leverage. But but I think when 219 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: you're looking at it, you think of eight sacks seven 220 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: straight years, the company he has joined. That is one 221 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: of those things that he can put his hat on 222 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and just kind of say enough, said, you tell me 223 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: what's going on exactly? May I agree with the case. 224 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,040 Speaker 1: You know he's done it and that's what you want 225 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: as a part of availability, but also asistency every year, 226 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: so each year has gone out there. You know, for 227 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: the most part him being healthy, he's gonna probably give 228 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: you eight sacks during the season, but not just that. Also, 229 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: in this day and age, if the quarterbacks, everything's about 230 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback, quarterback, quarterback, you have to have something to 231 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: try to neutralize quarterbacks. And one of the ways to 232 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: neutralize quarterbacks was putting pressure on the quarterback from the edge. 233 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: And YE can do that and at least keeping that 234 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: guy in the pocket exact exactly, and UNI can do that. 235 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: He's one of the guys. So I think that, you know, 236 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: his consistency is a bonus for him and he can 237 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: show you, as Casey said, Hey, this is my status 238 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: of what I've done over my seven years in the 239 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: National Football League. I'm gonna be ready to play. I 240 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 1: can help this defense out. So I think for his consistency, 241 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: I think that's going to help him and I will 242 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: help a defense as well. Yeah, you guys both talked 243 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: about the durability the availability factor for in Gockway. He 244 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: missed those two games last year. Last year was the 245 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: first time in his career he missed multiple games in 246 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 1: the same season. Man, right, he's only missed four games 247 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: total and his first seven years in the NFL. Let 248 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: me ask you this, Casey, I'll start with you. If 249 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: the Colts do not resign in Gockway, where would that 250 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: production come from on this roster as it sits right now? 251 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 1: Who are some guys the Colts can trust? Is it 252 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: Quity Pay? Is it dioa Dangbo? And again you throw 253 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: in the durability factor. For in Goackway only miss four 254 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: games in seven years. For Quitty Pay, he's missed seven 255 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: games in two years. Casey, it's tough. I mean, that's 256 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: the key. It's something that we saw a couple of 257 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: years ago when they let Justin Houston walk into Niko 258 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: Autrey signed with the Titans. They kind of bet on 259 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: those young guys they drafted Quitti Pay. We knew that 260 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: Dio was going to be a bit of a project 261 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: because he was coming off that Achilles, But it's one 262 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: of those things that they threw them out there at 263 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: a young age and it didn't really come to fruition 264 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 1: at an early age. So you look at it now 265 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: and you say, well, if Yanique walks, the guys that 266 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: are gonna have to step up would be those two guys. 267 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: You got to have big production out of Quitty, big 268 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: production Dio. You know what you're gonna get with the 269 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 1: Forrest Buckner and the way that Grover Stewart has emerged. 270 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: That looks like a formidable four for sure, But you 271 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: gotta have those other two guys take that next step. 272 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: And that is hard, not because they don't have the talent. 273 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,199 Speaker 1: It's just because you haven't seen it yet. Not saying 274 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 1: that Quitti pay can't go out and have eleven and 275 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: a half sacks and Dio can have six. We just 276 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: haven't seen that. So it's hard to put all that 277 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: trust in that because, as Bill alluded to, the quarterback 278 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: position is so important in the NFL, and you have 279 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: to be able to neutralize it from the opponent's standpoint. 280 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: So being able to know with a guy like Yanni Kanaqua, 281 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: you can just pencil in eight or more sacks, it's 282 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: a nice security blanker to have. Exactly. Yeah, those guys hopefully, 283 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: as Kay said, you hope those two guys can step up. Now. 284 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: I look at Dio as when he came here as 285 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: rookie year, I was injured and so he had took 286 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: some time to get up to speed, and you know, 287 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: then he got to speed and the next year he 288 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: has a new system now so he has to line 289 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: a whole new system. So I'm looking for this year, 290 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: if a Dio, to be a bigger year for dial 291 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: because now he's was in the system last year, he 292 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: was healthy last year. This whole offseason he can now 293 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: actually work out to get better as far as physically 294 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: and know the system. So I think it's great for DIALE. 295 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: But so those guys have to step up Dial in 296 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: quity both because as Casey said, you have Dial, you 297 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: have Quitty, and you have the forest and you have 298 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: grovery in the middle. As I said, I think that 299 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: is a formidable forsome upfront. But you have to have 300 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 1: that production from the outside guys, and then you have 301 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: to find some other guys who's gonna be able to 302 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: rotate in there. We don't know who that's gonna because 303 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: that's gonna be a big part of the deference. Also, 304 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: you have to have some rotation to could give those 305 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: guys a break. Who's gonna be next year's al KaDee 306 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Muhan exactly exactly. So that's what those things you have 307 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: to look for in the draft possibly or in free agency, 308 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: because that's why, as we talked about earlier, this is 309 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: such an exciting time the National Football League where free 310 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: agency starts and then you're thinking about, Okay, who are 311 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: the young guys coming up that we could possibly draft 312 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: early rounds, late rounds, or whenever we may be, but 313 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: some guys that we can bring in to give us 314 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: some help. And sticking with Dio real quick, Bill, one 315 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: of the things you mentioned is that Achilles injury. A 316 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: lot of times it's that second year off of that. 317 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: So that is one thing where like we keep saying, 318 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: we don't we haven't seen it, but you hope that 319 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: it's there that I mean, he's got all the raw 320 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: talent in the world. I mean, you've seen what this 321 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: guy can do, and you saw it a little bit 322 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: later last year when Taekwon Lewis went down with his injury. 323 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: He definitely took that next step to showing that he 324 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: can be a little bit more of a consistent player. 325 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: But you want to see him be able to elevate. 326 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: And that's why it's hard to just say you can 327 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: let Yanique walk because you just don't know what you 328 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: have in those two guys on a consistent basis. Yet 329 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: all right, Lastly, Casey, you mentioned some of the cap casualties, 330 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: some of the big name free agents that might be 331 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: out there. Nothing official yet, they won't become official until 332 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: the new league year. But we're hearing reports about other 333 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: defensive ends around the NFL possibly joining that free agent 334 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 1: class at defensive end, Casey, what kind of market do 335 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 1: you think in Ghakway will have out side of Indianapolis. 336 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: That's the first part of this. The second part of this, 337 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: and we talked about this with Paris Campbell a couple 338 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: weeks ago. Where does Ingackway rank with this free agent 339 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: in house class of the Colts have. Is Ingackway the 340 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: most coveted free agent that the Colts have? Should he 341 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: be prioritized the most, Casey, of the seventeen guys that 342 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: we've talked about, It it's hard. I mean, he's definitely 343 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 1: up there in that list. I mean, just because you 344 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: look at the production, the consistency, and just because I 345 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: mean I'm not throwing you know, I'm not saying this 346 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: free agent class for the Colts isn't like a bunch 347 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: of great players. I don't think you have any of 348 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: those like really move the needle guys. I think there's 349 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: a handful of him, and I think Janiku in Paris 350 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: would be the top two if you're asking me as 351 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: far as free agents you want to keep here, I 352 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: think Bobbio Kaka has put together a really good sample size. 353 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: But you look at the financials you already have at linebacker, 354 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: that kind of puts him a little lower on that 355 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: list just because of what he is probably going to 356 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: get in the open market. But I think Janik and 357 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: Goakway falls in there is something that you definitely have 358 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: to entertain that option. And one of the things you 359 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: mentioned at the top, you know, what does that free 360 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: agent market look like? It's definitely looking like there's going 361 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: to be a handful more names out there. But I 362 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: think the biggest thing I'm gonna keep coming back to 363 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: is the scheme fit here with Gus Bradley in that 364 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 1: LEO position he has played throughout a majority of his career, 365 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: only a couple of years without Gus Bradley. We know 366 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: we've seen the production without it, but you've seen what 367 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 1: he can do inside this scheme. You know you don't 368 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: have to worry about it you can kind of just 369 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: place him there and kind of do everything else because 370 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: you know what he's going to do. So I think 371 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: all of that plays in favor for him returning. But 372 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: you know what happens in free agency. I mean you 373 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: start throwing a bunch of dollars signs out there, and 374 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: sometimes it gets to the point where it's like, we 375 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: just can't pay that because you've got to look at 376 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: the value of what you're paying, and free agency always, 377 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 1: year in, year out, guys get overpaid. That's what happens. 378 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: So to definitely be something to watch, and I think 379 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. As I mentioned the scheme 380 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: fit here. His familiarity with Gus Bradley defense makes him 381 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,480 Speaker 1: something that I would prioritize. But it all comes down 382 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: to the dollar signs. Yeah, I think the scheme is 383 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: big for Unique knowing that he can play in this 384 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: scheme and feel comfortable. He knows that like the back 385 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: of his hand. He knows Gus very well. Then, as 386 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: Casey said to me, it's about the dollars. I mean, 387 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: you know, what are we willing to spend to keep him? 388 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 1: What are we willing to say? Okay, this is what 389 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna spend to keep Jannique because he's this important 390 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: to us, or you know, are we gonna say, hey, 391 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: this is the number we have and we're not going 392 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: to go over this number and if we if he 393 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: wants more than that, we have to look elsewhere or 394 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: something like that. So that's gonna be a big part 395 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: of it. But I think what helps you Unique in 396 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: this situation is, as Casey mentioned, Gus Bradley knowing the 397 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: system and I think, you know, as far as what 398 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: he's done over the over the years and being durable 399 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: and being available is going to help Unique as far 400 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: as making decision, and I think we'll help hopefully him 401 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: staying here. Is this say, is in Gokway a first 402 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: week free agency guy? Is he a second week guy? 403 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: I mean, where does he sit in terms of the 404 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: highest marquee free agents all told out there on the 405 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: open market, whether that's resigned by the Colts or somebody else. 406 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: And while you guys ponder that, and this is something 407 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: that I thought about too, and certainly this is only 408 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: going to go so far, but in Gockway last year 409 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: really seemed to have found a nice fit both scheme wise. 410 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:26,280 Speaker 1: But I think just community wise. Agreed. Well, I mean, 411 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: I've never really seen a player come in and it's 412 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: such a short amount of time be embraced by the city. 413 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: And quite frankly, he was embraced because of what he 414 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 1: was giving back. It was what in Gockway was putting 415 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,640 Speaker 1: out there that allowed him to be loved and embraced 416 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 1: by the city of Indianapolis, in the community of Central 417 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: Indiana because of the Teacher's Treasures involvement and just putting 418 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: himself out there wanting to be, you know, more of 419 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: a focal point of the community where he was playing. 420 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: We know about you know, the five teams in five 421 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: six years and being traded a couple different times. He 422 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: seems to have kind of matured and grown and wants 423 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 1: to be identifiable for the team that he plays for 424 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: in the community that he is in. So that's that's 425 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: part of this as well. But again that's only going 426 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: to take you so far. But where do you think 427 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: in gok Way ranks in terms of first week, second week, 428 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,959 Speaker 1: How quickly do you think something's gonna happen with him. 429 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how quickly something's gonna happen with him, 430 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,479 Speaker 1: but I think he will get some attention in that 431 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: first week. Of course, I think teams will or reach 432 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: out to him or his agent will reach out to 433 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 1: different teams, and of course I believe the coach will 434 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: possibly reach out to him when I don't do not know, 435 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: and hopefully they can get work something out. But I 436 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: think he's one of those guys. As we mentioned earlier, 437 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: the importance of the quarterback being so big in the 438 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: National Football League right now. I think with the way 439 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: you have to try and neutralize him as we mentioned 440 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: earlier about the pass rushing and thinks that nature, he 441 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: will get some attention out. Yeah, he will be covered 442 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 1: earlier by some different teams. I think because of just 443 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: who he is and what he's done, and you know, 444 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: he comes in there, he's a leader, he's a veteran person. 445 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: You can help some young guys out. He can play 446 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: in different system as he's gone throughout his career play 447 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: with different teams with Jacksonville, Baltimore, Minnesota, so he can't 448 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: play in different systems. But I think it will be 449 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: someone that is covered throughout the National Football League. And 450 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean you think about where we are right now, 451 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: where a month and a half, well, give or take 452 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: from the NFL draft. You're trying to get that in line. 453 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: So if you look at your draft board and say, 454 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: we need an edge, if we need a pass rusher, 455 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: yet we're sitting at let's say it's eighteen, you know, 456 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: whatever team that is, that's I think that's where you're 457 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: going to see the importance of that first week of 458 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: free agency because defensive end is so I mean, you 459 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: have to get out for the pastor that is one 460 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: of the things you have to do in this league. 461 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,920 Speaker 1: So that position that he's in, I think that is 462 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: going to force that issue. I think that's why, in 463 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: my opinion, he's going to be a first week guy. 464 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: And it's one of those things you want to make 465 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: sure you have that guy so that when the draft 466 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: rolls around, you aren't waiting, because sometimes you get to 467 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: that point where're like, well, we can't quite get here, 468 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: so we'll come you know, you go down, you go 469 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: down that level and you say, all right, we'll talk 470 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: to you after the draft. We don't address this need, 471 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: and then some of those guys start to go away, 472 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: and then you're really left for a bear cupboard. So 473 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I'm going to be 474 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: watching because it shows I think it almost shows the 475 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: hand of what teams are trying to do when April 476 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: rolls around. So when you start hearing the conversations, it's 477 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: one of those things where if you can get a 478 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: free agent, it takes that need off your draft board, 479 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,440 Speaker 1: and that is pretty key. Yeah. Reliable veteran status right there, 480 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: Reliable veteran production. Great stuff, Casey Valley, Bill Brooks the 481 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 1: Free Agent Tracker podcast breaking down unique in Gackway and 482 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: as we said, things really start to ramp up next Monday, 483 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: the legal tampering period and then Wednesday full bore on 484 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 1: to the new league year in NFL free agency, and 485 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: we've got your covered. We've had you covered this entire time. 486 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: We got one more to go, EJ. Speed. Later on 487 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: this week the Cults in Linebacker hitting free agency for 488 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 1: the first time, so we'll break him down to close 489 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: out our Free Agent Tracker podcast series again for Bill 490 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: and Casey. I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening, and you 491 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: got it dialed in right here on Colts dot Com 492 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: and Occults Audio Network. So long