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Speaker 1: For John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast John Annik and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 2: Let's hear that both to next.

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Speaker 4: Duffy and Brett Beers.

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Speaker 5: There are a couple of absolutely self involved bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: You're your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: This message is for John the broadcast Beast Annik.

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Speaker 6: I can't believe you're still going strong on the post show,

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Speaker 6: rocking that pink.

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Speaker 2: Suit after Connor McGregor pay per view.

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Speaker 7: You're an animal man, keep it up, love it.

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Speaker 8: Oh man. What's your name? What's your name?

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Speaker 9: Cody knows how to butter me up to start. Thanks

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Speaker 9: everybody for chiming in on the voicemail line. Cody's gonna

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Speaker 9: tell me what that number is.

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Speaker 8: Great to be with you.

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Speaker 9: I'm still in Las Vegas and I am hurting for

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Speaker 9: certain today. I don't know that there's any way to

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Speaker 9: uh to hide that. It's Monday, July twelfth, Episode three

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Speaker 9: oh eight of the Anicon Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 8: UFC two sixty four Recap Style.

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Speaker 9: I got to give my man Ken Flow two hugs

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Speaker 9: inside of seventeen minutes in Vegas? What is going on kid,

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Speaker 9: it looks like you're back home, safe and sound.

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Speaker 2: I am man.

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Speaker 4: I'm glad to see that you cleared out the orgy

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Speaker 4: before the podcast.

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Speaker 10: It's great.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I made a bed for the first time at

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Speaker 9: this century, so that was an exciting thing between two beds.

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Speaker 9: I'm at the Circa Resort and Casino here, staying out

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Speaker 9: here for UFC Fight Night. I'm not going to pronounce

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Speaker 9: Islam's last name because it's part of our pronunciation of

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Speaker 9: the week.

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Speaker 8: But we have a fight night this weekend.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 9: So I turned forty three nine days ago, right, So

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Speaker 9: I get to Circa Resort and Casino and we have

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Speaker 9: this room, Kenny. The sports book is literally in your

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Speaker 9: hotel room. Right, It's called Stadium Swim, I think, right.

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Speaker 9: This is a brand new resort here in Old Vegas

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Speaker 9: Fremont Street, I believe. And you're looking down in a

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Speaker 9: sports book with all these TVs and the pool party

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Speaker 9: and everything else. But here's the rub the base right

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Speaker 9: till eleven pm every day. And I'm forty three, so

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Speaker 9: that doesn't work. I have a podcast to do as well, right,

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Speaker 9: So long story short, I gave up this amazing room.

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Speaker 8: Literally, you open your.

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Speaker 9: Goddamn curtains, and there's a sports book in your hotel room.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 9: We moved across to the other side where the old

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Speaker 9: so that's that's priority for you.

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Speaker 8: But it's good to be with everybody. It was a

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Speaker 8: huge weekend. Obviously.

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Speaker 9: I went out to dinner last night and a friend

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Speaker 9: that's why the voice and the demeanor are a little

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Speaker 9: off today. But we've got a lot of stuff to

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Speaker 9: get to to recap UFC two sixty four, some audio

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Speaker 9: or so. We'll see if long Ago takes the call, Cody,

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Speaker 9: maybe you can remind him dude needs a lot of reminders.

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Speaker 9: How about every Monday of your life life for the

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Speaker 9: last you know, three hundred weeks. But maybe you can

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Speaker 9: text Ray Cody if you'd be so, Cindy.

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Speaker 2: He's not up right now.

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Speaker 4: He's not getting up till like he's an eleven am,

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Speaker 4: eleven thirty guy.

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 9: And further, I woke up six fifteen am Pacific today

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Speaker 9: So all right, So much to dissect when it comes

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Speaker 9: to this main event between Dustin Poorier and Connor McGregor.

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Speaker 9: And I guess the first thing out of my mouth

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Speaker 9: But what were your thoughts on the fight and everything

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Speaker 9: that sort of happened at the end, my man.

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Speaker 4: I don't know it was. It was a tough one, man.

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Speaker 9: It's hard, right because and you and I are largely

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Speaker 9: the show, right. I'm a fan first, and I'm a

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Speaker 9: He wants to be active, he wants to chase further

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Speaker 9: the super Bowl. You wait all year for this fight.

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Speaker 9: You're two seconds away from the start of round two

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Speaker 9: are a lot of reasons for that. Dusin Pourier would

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Speaker 9: I'm actually getting sick of talking about lower leg attacks

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Speaker 9: think we're seeing that like when you throw kicks. Like

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Speaker 9: eventually with this trend, as the offensive fighter gets injured

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Speaker 4: So I don't know exactly what the cause of it is.

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Speaker 2: So it's tough. It was hard. It was hard to watch.

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Speaker 4: That this has been more and more frequent now in

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Speaker 4: And for me, I feel like I wasn't satisfied and

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I don't have the closure. And again for people

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Speaker 9: you don't want to hear about a fourth fight between

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Speaker 9: Charles Olivera. My expectation, my speculation would be that that

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Speaker 9: But given the fact that Charles Olivera won the belt

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Speaker 9: for the rest of the year, right, Yeah, And I

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Speaker 9: also think the fight game is such right, you know

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Speaker 9: fighting for the time. No, it's gonna be Dustin and Charles.

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Speaker 9: We're gonna get into all of that. We got Kavanaugh

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Speaker 9: sound obviously coming up in terms of the like stuff.

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Speaker 9: But I have a few notes if you can believe

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Speaker 9: that ten eight round on two of the three judges scorecards. Okay,

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Speaker 9: so the best judge of the three, in my humble opinion,

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Speaker 9: that was scoring this fight was sal Diamato. He had

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Speaker 9: it a ten nine. We are in this era where

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Speaker 9: the language has changed. Judges are encouraged by the new

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Speaker 9: you know, because of that reality, I can sit here

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Speaker 9: me can flow. Connor McGregor got too much done on

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Speaker 9: be ten eight. I do think though the elbows right,

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Speaker 9: and I would also say too Connor McGregor, say what

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Speaker 9: you want about the guillotine, but it does count as

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Speaker 9: a submission attempt. You know, there are a lot of

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Speaker 9: a ten eight under the new scoring.

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Speaker 9: I don't know, Like I don't know how many hip

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Speaker 4: A lot of your escapes, a lot of your movement,

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Speaker 2: Like he wanted to go home.

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Speaker 4: He was in that fight to win it the whole

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Speaker 11: I mean, how many people, how many people do a

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Speaker 2: You don't hear from anybody until.

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Speaker 4: Like a day or two after he's doing a freaking

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Speaker 2: Let's put that in perspective. He's yelling, he's.

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Speaker 4: that stuff. You know, that's fair separated, right, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: But you know, this guy is he's he's been playing

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Speaker 4: He's been the bad guy. He's the ultimate bad guy.

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Speaker 4: That's his role. U know what you're looking at.

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Speaker 9: And he's fighting one of the best fighters that I've

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Speaker 9: losses in Dustin Pourier. Right, Can we at least compartmentalize

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Speaker 9: that part of the matchup and understand that Connor McGregor

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Speaker 8: But I believe you and I talked about this a

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Speaker 9: You know, there are plenty of guys in the top

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Speaker 9: I hate to break it to you, and I guess

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Speaker 9: so is Kenny. Right, And if you don't have respect

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Speaker 9: the music, you know, this man wants to fight. This

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Speaker 9: man made a five hundred thousand dollars philanthropic effort towards Dustin,

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Speaker 9: You know, Dustin shows to potentially jump the gun in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely, And again, you know, to say that

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Speaker 2: Careers all the time.

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Speaker 4: He said, well, this guy lost in this fashion. To

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Speaker 2: And you see how many how many times we've seen these.

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Speaker 4: got no heart. Look at where he is now. Look

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Speaker 4: at what Gilbert, Look what Look what Gilbert Burns did

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Speaker 9: You know, all right, I've been taking notes here furiously,

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Speaker 8: Was, like, I thought they both missed, but yeah, that

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Speaker 9: So, but the judges obviously don't face the music really

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Speaker 8: Like is this all people?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 8: Would you guys like to fucking boo me tonight? Excuse me?

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Speaker 9: So in terms of the durability real quick, and I've

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Speaker 9: Miller was one of the first guys to throw low kicks.

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Speaker 8: It's like because he threw it and he's been fucking

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Speaker 9: So I'm just very curious to see how the trend goes,

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Speaker 4: He's not there to win, He's there to beat you up.

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Speaker 4: race where you have to keep up with him, and

437
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Speaker 4: if you don't, either get your ass kicked or you're

438
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Speaker 4: so exhausted that then he takes your soul. So Dustin

439
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 4: has turned into one of the nastiest fighters out there.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's really impressive to watch.

441
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Speaker 8: So yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Would have him as the favorite heading into that as well. Man,

443
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Speaker 4: that that would be my pick.

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Speaker 9: Man, you're on fire today, I mean, is this just

445
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Speaker 9: you like being a good friend trying to lift me up?

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Speaker 6: But I got my.

447
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Speaker 2: Work out in at seven am today, kid, I'm a

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Speaker 2: wait today.

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Speaker 9: Finally tell you are absolutely smoking dustin Poorier minus one

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Speaker 9: fifty eight. Charlie olives plus one thirty. So yeah, an

451
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Speaker 9: odds maker, I am not.

452
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Speaker 8: All right.

453
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Speaker 9: We have some audio to get to and of course

454
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Speaker 9: Ray Longo is coming up in about seven minutes or so,

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Speaker 9: let us get to a new segment we like to

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Speaker 9: for me, so I'm hoping when I get home, Hunter,

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Speaker 9: my little boy has a little candad Dip in his

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Speaker 9: all right, so we have some audio for you.

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Speaker 8: Clear my throat on the air. How rude?

472
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Speaker 9: The audio files are, like really bro all right? So

473
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Speaker 9: John Cavanaugh did an interview Whimp to Warrior. Interview with

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Speaker 9: Laura Sanco can be accessed on Sancho's social media. I

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Speaker 9: first want here John Cavanaugh on the ankle injury. It's

476
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Speaker 9: potential surfacing in training camp and and the x rays

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Speaker 9: that that cotter got prior to UFC two sixty.

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Speaker 7: Four, A little bit of that that ankle injury had

479
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Speaker 7: been aggravated during the during the camp.

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Speaker 2: We we we've gotten a scan on.

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Speaker 7: Did that have a small hard to play in weakening it?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, there there might have been something in there.

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Speaker 7: It would seem unusual that, you know, young healthy fit

484
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Speaker 7: man could wrap around an elbow and with out there

485
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Speaker 7: have been something there before. But you know, you can

486
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Speaker 7: you can sort of play those guessing games all day long.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 9: So here's the thing, right, Like, so John cavanaught really

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Speaker 9: nice guy friend of Kenny Florian. Okay, So he says,

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Speaker 9: I don't know, right, Like he lays it out and

491
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Speaker 9: he says, maybe this is a factor I don't really know.

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Speaker 9: And the fight game is what it is right, and

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Speaker 9: people say, oh, he's making excuses. Oh the camploring fucking

494
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 9: playing the John Cabot audio like making excuses.

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Speaker 8: It's like, no, no, just play in the audio, you know,

496
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Speaker 8: just let you know.

497
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Speaker 9: Like me, he doesn't really know, but people will write

498
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Speaker 9: aheadline and sensationalized the man's comments. But in terms of

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Speaker 9: the check or not and the break, let's hear from

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Speaker 9: John on on the kick technique. Uh, as a potential

501
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Speaker 9: reason for what transpired.

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Speaker 12: We had we had worked and that being a spear

503
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Speaker 12: emotion horizontal spare emotion with the fault rather than a

504
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Speaker 12: rather than like that kind of karate stick from the knee.

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Speaker 12: He knows both techniques very well. And I just think

506
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Speaker 12: maybe in the heat the moment, it was the flick

507
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Speaker 12: come out rather than to stab.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately hit that hit, that album, but you know, credit

509
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Speaker 2: to dusting.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Dustin pointed at one point we showed it on

511
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Speaker 9: the pay per view. I know, Kenny, obviously you were

512
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Speaker 9: in Vegas, but uh, I don't know, I mean, what

513
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Speaker 9: do you.

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Speaker 8: Make was there a check here? I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: You know, I need to go back and watch it

516
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Speaker 4: to be honest, to really give an educated opinion on it.

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Speaker 2: I don't quite remember.

518
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 4: I remember the point, I don't remember exactly what happened

519
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Speaker 4: during that exchange, but.

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Speaker 2: It's very possible. Dude.

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Speaker 4: Again, you know, when you're fighting, you're hitting some of

522
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: the hardest parts of the body as well, and as

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Speaker 4: a fighter, you hope that you're able to block with

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Speaker 4: some of the hardest parts of your body. You know,

525
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Speaker 4: these things happened, you know, Ryan Hall, it was funny.

526
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Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying, oh, why didn't he

527
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Speaker 4: punch seemed like he didn't throw a punch his first

528
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Speaker 4: one of his first punches he landed. He broke his hand,

529
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Speaker 4: so his his hand is completely indented. He broke his

530
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Speaker 4: hand and one of the punches that he landed on.

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Speaker 4: And you punch, you know, the top of the head,

532
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Speaker 4: which is one of the hardest parts of the body

533
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Speaker 4: you can break. You kick here, you can either break

534
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Speaker 4: your own shin or you could break you know, their arm.

535
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Speaker 4: You kick just below the knee and you'll have a

536
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Speaker 4: broken tip fib. You kick a little bit lower, you

537
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 4: could smash someone's cap. So it's like we're talking about millimeters,

538
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 4: we're talking about inches here in the fucking.

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Speaker 9: Well, one guy who's tip fib you just can't smash.

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Speaker 1: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute, and I'm

541
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Speaker 1: gonna push a hole in his fucking chips.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want.

543
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Speaker 1: It's the Ray long Minute, the John Annik and Kenny

544
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Speaker 1: Florian podcast.

545
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Speaker 2: There he is.

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Speaker 10: That's what we call very John. I got pink too.

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Speaker 8: Look at that.

548
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Speaker 10: Teddy?

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Speaker 2: Did he look at but he did? He did? He

550
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: looks he looked like quite the pimp.

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Speaker 6: I have to say, you know, I thought it was

552
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 6: more like an accountant for the village people. But what

553
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Speaker 6: a good looking guy.

554
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you.

555
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Speaker 10: I don't know if you got.

556
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Speaker 6: Ken flow looks, buddy, but you you're You're a handsome

557
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Speaker 6: You're a handsome devil.

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Speaker 10: We will say, Hey, I.

559
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Speaker 9: Like I got punched in the face after my recreation

560
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Speaker 9: activities last night.

561
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Speaker 10: Ray.

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Speaker 8: Uh, so you like the pink suit? You like the

563
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 8: pink suit? Man? Was that pink suit a hit?

564
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Speaker 9: Thanks to my guy, Mark Russell Booker its own Florida

565
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 9: right around the corner from me. Gilbert Erino Burns made

566
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Speaker 9: the connection. But so I just have to say, right,

567
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 9: so the guy's going to make me a suit. So

568
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Speaker 9: he shows me all these fabrics, you know, and I'm

569
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Speaker 9: not as tan as very long. I mean, look how

570
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 9: good this guy looks, right, But I saw this pink

571
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 9: fabric and I was like, I know in my head

572
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 9: that a play by play announcer is not supposed to

573
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 9: go on television wearing a pink suit, right, because it's

574
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 9: not about us, right, Like we stay in our lane,

575
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,239
Speaker 9: you know what I mean. So I said to the guy,

576
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 9: was like, I really like this pink but play by

577
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Speaker 9: play announcer probably, uh probably shouldn't be wearing a pink suit.

578
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 8: But we went with it. And obviously it was a

579
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Speaker 8: big show and you'll never see me in it again.

580
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Speaker 8: But thanks.

581
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Speaker 6: Well because I said to somebody, what about the kind

582
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 6: of fight and the guy's kind of fight? Because did

583
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 6: you see annex suit.

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Speaker 10: Something?

585
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 13: Man?

586
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Speaker 6: You took away from you took away from the fight

587
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Speaker 6: a little bit. I mean, everybody stopped, couldn't stop walking.

588
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 10: Kenny. This is I couldn't even talk about a fight.

589
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 2: It's classic an right there.

590
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 10: Really, Yeah, he's entering.

591
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Speaker 6: The building now here he comes, Oh my god, oh my.

592
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Speaker 2: God, making it about him.

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Speaker 4: I thought, yeah, people didn't see this, but I thought

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Speaker 4: the spotlight when Anik walked towards the octagon to start

595
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Speaker 4: working with a little much.

596
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Speaker 6: It was just I don't know, I hate you know

597
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Speaker 6: it because I think it went down like this when

598
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Speaker 6: with his tailor, He's like, you know those moments when

599
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 6: somebody gets knocked out and we all look for way

600
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Speaker 6: is I'll look so freaking good I could out there, Logan,

601
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Speaker 6: you just put me in a pink suit. I can

602
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Speaker 6: no one even look at Just look at the suit.

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00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 8: You got me.

604
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: He's giving it to you today, Jo.

605
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, he got me.

606
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,080
Speaker 9: Right in the liver right because the reason of play

607
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 9: by play it out there doesn't wear a pink suit

608
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 9: is because you don't want to take attention away from

609
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Speaker 9: the athletes or whatever else.

610
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 8: You know.

611
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 9: But it's like, I'm walking out see the arena and UFC,

612
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 9: so she'll give me a cell phone to like film

613
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Speaker 9: as I'm blogger. You know, I'm just doing much whatever

614
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 9: I'm told. But uh no, it was fun and and

615
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 9: I thank them for that thing.

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Speaker 4: One last thing. It was such a good suit. I

617
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 4: I forget what Bruce Buffer was even wearing. By the way,

618
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Speaker 4: I don't even know what he was wearing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know who wasn't Listen, I'm not joking there,

620
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Speaker 2: I'm not.

621
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Speaker 6: This is the first non joke. Listen, this is the first.

622
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Speaker 6: This is the first non joke. I have no idea

623
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Speaker 6: what Buffer was wearing. Kenny brings up not only do

624
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Speaker 6: not only did I do not know what he was wearing.

625
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 6: I didn't even know if he was the announcer. And

626
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Speaker 6: I'm like, it should have been watching this now that's Kenny.

627
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Speaker 2: You really.

628
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Speaker 10: Wait, no clue.

629
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Speaker 2: I'm telling you.

630
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Speaker 10: I don't even know who the announce it was.

631
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Speaker 2: Let's I don't even know. Sorry, buff, we.

632
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Speaker 10: Love you though. When you were in the gym, did

633
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Speaker 10: you run on the treadmill in the suit?

634
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 8: I did not.

635
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 10: Somebody somebody told me they show you in the gym.

636
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Speaker 10: I don't know if that.

637
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Speaker 8: Was I did not watch or not.

638
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 9: But I gotta say though, right, uh, and you made

639
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 9: me just think of being on the treadmill. Some of

640
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 9: the best things that we get for the walkouts or

641
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 9: for the locker room shots, right, are just nuggets you

642
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 9: get in conversation. And I ran into Pahoopa Marco Stamata,

643
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 9: longtime ju jitsu coach American Top Team. He'll be in

644
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 9: Thiago Moyses's corner this weekend and we were just talking

645
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 9: about the fights and his pupil from Kazakhstan, Jalgazuma Gulav,

646
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Speaker 9: And he says to me, He's like, there are two

647
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Speaker 9: athletes and all of Kazakhstan that the people will stay

648
00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 9: up all night to watch compete Canelo Alvarez and Jalkashuma Goola,

649
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 9: Like he's a huge deal. And that nugget, right, ended

650
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 9: up being something that I'm just I thought it was

651
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 9: interesting you brought up the treadmill, made me think of it.

652
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 9: But great to see your fucking ass ray long go

653
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 9: on a Monday morn m Pacific. I am here in

654
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 9: Las Vegas for another week and we have, you know,

655
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 9: we have thirty minutes with you, which is very exciting.

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00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 9: We've talked a lot about Dustin and Connor. I'm dying

657
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 9: to get your thoughts on this because I think you

658
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 9: will provide some dissension I think on some of these

659
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 9: different situations because Kenny and I think agree too much

660
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 9: today for the sake of the show. What were your

661
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 9: thoughts on poury a McGregor three, As long as it lasts, Well.

662
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 6: You know, look exciting first round, right, I mean it

663
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 6: was great they delivered. Unfortunately it ended the way it did.

664
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 6: But I mean we saw Connor's adjustments. He went from

665
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 6: a boxing based stands to more of the kicking stands

666
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 6: through a lot of kicks, but you know, that was it,

667
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 6: you know, same old thing. I think the first time

668
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: he got hit by Dustin a couple of times, three

669
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 6: or four punches, he went right to the clinch and

670
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 6: then he you know, you know, I don't know, you know,

671
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 6: for a guy that was bashing submissions that they don't

672
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 6: even count as wins, and he went for one himself.

673
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 6: But I think he, uh, I didn't think of that.

674
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 8: That's pretty if you.

675
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 6: Think about it, right, he didn't even he doesn't even

676
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 6: count as a loss the submission, you know, But then

677
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 6: he went to one, uh you know against the jiu

678
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 6: jitsu guy. So people could take that for whatever it's worth.

679
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 6: But uh, I think we saw what his adjustments were,

680
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 6: but they just were not going to be enough for

681
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 6: that night. And I do like, you know, you know,

682
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 6: obviously he was a very gracious loser, so that that's

683
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 6: good for him.

684
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 2: I got a seriously, you guys up, you guys.

685
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 6: Even awake at that. We see the more gracious loser.

686
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: I mean, the guy's the guys growing as a human being.

687
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 6: I give him an He said he was going to

688
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 6: kill everybody in his family while he was laying on

689
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 6: the floor. Listen, Connor is a tough I will say this,

690
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 6: breaking fla and your tibula. That son of a bitch

691
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 6: went out on his stretcher.

692
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

693
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 10: Scream he's nuts, He's he's nuts.

694
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 6: So attitude a second?

695
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 9: Can I play Devil's advocate for a second? Want your

696
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 9: thoughts on this?

697
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 8: Okay?

698
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, Connor agrees to give Dustin's foundation five hundred thousand

699
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 9: dollars and when he doesn't do it with the immediacy

700
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 9: that Dustin wants, Dustin calls him out publicly not coming

701
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 9: through with the money.

702
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 8: Okay, how would you feel about that? Right?

703
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 9: Like, do you really think that Connor McGregor, with all

704
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 9: due respect, do you really think Connor was not going

705
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 9: to pay the five hundred thousand dollars? You really think

706
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 9: after all that that he was not going to pay

707
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 9: the five hundred thousand dollars. So I understand everybody's banging

708
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 9: on Connor, and I didn't like the way he handled

709
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 9: himself in a lot of the situations this weekend, you know,

710
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 9: but like he was really hurt by that, and there's

711
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 9: a personal layer to this rivalry that didn't exist going

712
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 9: into that second fight.

713
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 8: So like that's the other side of it.

714
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 9: That's why Connor is so venomous and uh, you know, yeah,

715
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 9: like don't bring the wife into it, don't talk about

716
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 9: a guy dying in the octagon, I guess. But like

717
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 9: Dustin committed the ultimate sin as far as Connor McGregor

718
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 9: is concerned. And I think people just don't want to

719
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 9: look at Connor's pov.

720
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, can I take that first?

721
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm I'll agree with Connor, right me personally,

722
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 6: if that happened to me, I'd be I would be upset, right,

723
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 6: But in this fucking day and age, with fucking social

724
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 6: media and I don't even know what's right or room anymore.

725
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 6: But if you're talking about an older guy like back, yeah,

726
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 6: getting called out publicly would suck, you know, if the

727
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 6: check didn't come quick enough. Yeah, But I think in

728
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 6: today's day and age, this is what these fucking knuckleheads do.

729
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 6: That's the way they communicate. Its social media. So what's public, John,

730
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 6: I don't even know what's public?

731
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 10: Anymore.

732
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 6: I mean, who was he supposed to be on a telephone.

733
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 6: I mean, I guess you could text them.

734
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and listen, I think that we we have to

735
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 4: We also have to understand that. You know, we've been

736
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 4: watching Connor McGregor for a few years now, right.

737
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 2: We know what he's about.

738
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: We know his uh pensiont for for promoting fights and

739
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 4: for basically saying anything at any time to do whatever.

740
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: And he's willing to go there. He's willing to say

741
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 4: things to others. But you know we've seen it before,

742
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: you know, Mike Tyson. You know he's I'm gonna eat

743
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,760
Speaker 4: your children, blah blah blah. You know, these are things

744
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 4: that get people fired up. It pulls, you know, at

745
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 4: your heartstrings, or it grosses you out, or you know

746
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 4: you want to see the guy lose so bad. I

747
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,719
Speaker 4: will say this just you know, watching Connor McGregor, whether

748
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 4: you hate him or love him.

749
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: Or a fan, you're in between.

750
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 4: You know, there's no more excitement in the octagon than

751
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 4: when Connor's fighting.

752
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: It's just that's just a fact.

753
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there as a fan, and you know, I'm

754
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 4: sitting down and you know, watch the fights here and immediately.

755
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 4: There's just a different energy anytime he competes because of

756
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: all the things that he says, and again, isn't the

757
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: best look for kids who are coming up who want

758
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: to be a mixed martial arts No, but you know

759
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 4: that's just who he is. We all know what Connor's about.

760
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 4: As far as his ability to promote a fight. He's

761
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 4: got to say and do whatever. And I just kind

762
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 4: of see it as I laugh it off because I

763
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 4: don't see it legit.

764
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: I think he's just playing the game.

765
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 6: But I don't know about that. I think he's Look.

766
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 6: I've grown to really like Connor mcgreg I really have.

767
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 6: You know, I picked him to win the last fight.

768
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 6: You know, I love some of the things he does.

769
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 6: I thought I just was you know, you know what

770
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 6: it kind of thinks, is that Dustin really is It

771
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 6: looks like a really nice kid, you know, and you're

772
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 6: really attacking the guy that I like. Again, I don't

773
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 6: know either of them, so but it looks like you're

774
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 6: attacking a guy that really is trying to do the

775
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 6: right thing. And that's where it gets a little weird.

776
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't I don't think he has to

777
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 6: do much to promote a fight. So you know, because

778
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 6: again even at the end, oh he did, Yeah, I

779
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 6: don't know.

780
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 9: I mean, he apologize for jumping the gun so to speak,

781
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 9: on the donation, right, so people could counter me with that,

782
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 9: so right, and he even in his post fight interviewed

783
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 9: Pourier express class and gratitude again, you know.

784
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 6: So yeah, how long was it How long was it

785
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 6: before he didn't receive the check?

786
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 10: Do we know that?

787
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:28,479
Speaker 8: Well?

788
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 9: I I think Poorier even regrets that going public.

789
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 8: That was sort of my read on the situation.

790
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 9: I'm just saying that I think that really struck a

791
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 9: nerve with Connor. That's not the only reason why he

792
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 9: ratcheted up the drash talk. But I don't know, man, Like,

793
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 9: I didn't come on here today wanting to be a

794
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 9: Connor McGregor apologist. But I have ESPN colleagues on the

795
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 9: boxing side who I respect very much, who are coming

796
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 9: on television and essentially denigrating McGregor's whole body of work.

797
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 9: You know, go talk to Demitrius fucking Johnson and ask

798
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 9: him how good he thinks con McGregor is in terms

799
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 9: of distance management and striking ability, Or ask Kenny fucking

800
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 9: Florian you know. So like for me, it's just I'm

801
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 9: just getting tired of just all the bashing the athlete,

802
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 9: Like I support the whole roster in terms of the athlete.

803
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 9: And I don't know, I just think there are a

804
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 9: lot of lazy, tired narratives.

805
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 8: But uh, all credit.

806
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 9: To uh, to to Dustin Pourier. Ray man, What the

807
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 9: fuck are we going to do about all these guys

808
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 9: breaking their legs in the octagon?

809
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 10: I mean, yeah, I tell you, I don't know.

810
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 6: I think we need a milk sponsorship for the UFC, right,

811
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 6: I think we got to get some calcium in those bones. No,

812
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 6: I don't know, Kenny, I heard Kenny before I got

813
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 6: on it. It is you know, we go from knee PIDs,

814
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 6: you know, two weeks before elbow pads, so nobody catches.

815
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

816
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 10: I mean we try.

817
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 6: I'm not saying we do it, but it's always been

818
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 6: talked about elbow pads. How many in steps have we

819
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,839
Speaker 6: seen broken on an elbow? You catch an elbow? Look

820
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 6: at this is the sport man is No, there's no

821
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 6: shimp pads, there's no equipment. It's the gloves a little Uh,

822
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 6: there's not much panting, even though there's a decent amount

823
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 6: of panting. But yeah, if you're if you're off a

824
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 6: little bit or I don't know that's gonna be.

825
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:16,840
Speaker 2: Uh.

826
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 6: I think we're seeing a cluster here, but I think

827
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 6: it'll you know, disappear and then we'll go back to

828
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 6: it again. But I hope it doesn't continue because you know,

829
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 6: even that break was hard to look at when he

830
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 6: went back, you know, I mean that was another bro,

831
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,240
Speaker 6: what do he break two bones?

832
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, as the Florian medical family.

833
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, you gotta go more for accuracy and lee

834
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 6: lay off the power maybe a little bit until you know.

835
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 10: Exactly where you're hitting.

836
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 6: But I think sometimes in the heat of the moment

837
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 6: or you're fighting angry, you're just throwing and Chris, whatever

838
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 6: happens happens, and you'll deal with it after Chris.

839
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 9: Right through that, Chris Wyman threw that kick at your

840
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 9: eye Hall as if he was literally trying to save

841
00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 9: one of his kids.

842
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 6: There is no question about that. Yeah, there is no

843
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 6: question about that. Yeah, you know it's funny when that

844
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 6: kick went Kenny, I go, man, he buried that kid,

845
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 6: Like in my mind, I go wow, And that's the

846
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 6: last I remember in my brain was like, wow, he

847
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,400
Speaker 6: you know, because Widman he fucking kicks like a mule.

848
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 10: I'm telling you that.

849
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 6: When he was coming up, there were a lot of

850
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 6: guys laying in that octagon. I couldn't get up. He would,

851
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 6: he would bury legs, and then he got away from

852
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 6: it a little bit. No, yeah, nobody, let's look. The

853
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 6: best thing about Widman was what Anthony Smith said. I'm

854
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 6: telling you because that's that's the way I feel like.

855
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 6: And people, you know, when they're listening to me talk,

856
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: they think I'm crazy. But he kind of said, I

857
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 6: can't believe this guy even has a loss, that's how

858
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 6: good he was. And that was that was you know,

859
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 6: five months ago. He said that, so I know what

860
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 6: the guy can do. Sometimes it doesn't take place, you know,

861
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 6: sometimes it doesn't happen in the octagon, but he you know,

862
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 6: I don't know that. That night, everything was looking good,

863
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 6: and you know it's the old saying sometimes you do

864
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 6: everything right and everything goes wrong type of thing. But

865
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 6: I agree with you, John. He and Peen buried that kick,

866
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 6: and I was like, for me, I was like, this

867
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 6: is going to be great. He's gonna you know, and

868
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 6: that was it, you know.

869
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: There's a reason why.

870
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 4: You know, in American kickboxing, they wouldn't allow you to

871
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 4: kick to the leg. It would have to be you know,

872
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: it was always like upstairs or to the body.

873
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: There was like no leg on leg kicking.

874
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 4: And a lot of the American kickboxing organizations, especially coming

875
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 4: up in the seventies, eighties, nineties, all the way through,

876
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: the influence came really more from Thailand, and then they

877
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 4: started integrating it and started kicking the leg again. But

878
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 4: I remember when I first started training, and Ray would

879
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 4: know this very well. I was kicking a dang heavy

880
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: bag and my legs were probably bruised, like literally, my

881
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 4: shins were probably bruised for two years straight.

882
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 2: And that's not an exaggerate they heard every day. It's

883
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 2: just that's what you're doing. It's just it's brutal.

884
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a one hundred percent right.

885
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 6: I think that's the thing. The ties really there. Their

886
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 6: shins are so desensitized and the calcium deposits that build.

887
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: Up as their kids.

888
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 6: So it's like Kenny brings up a great point when

889
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 6: not really investing the time to develop that shin either

890
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 6: and like he said, it was just kicking the heavy,

891
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 6: big kicking, rolling it out with a piece of wood

892
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 6: or whatever, tapping it but like a collie stick. You know,

893
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 6: these are things that everybody did back in the day,

894
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 6: but I don't. It's just that disappeared now. It's just

895
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 6: it's almost like there's no time. It's you know, everything

896
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 6: just we got to get in there, you know. And

897
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 6: I think maybe that could be part of the reason

898
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 6: that how many boxes putting their hands in pickle grind

899
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 6: or grind whatever they call it, you know, pickle juice,

900
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, to develop the you know,

901
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 6: even the callouses on your hands.

902
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 10: And you know I used to do like Luke.

903
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 6: Even with Luke hom might have him punching those sandbags

904
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 6: and you know, really developing his hand. And then you

905
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 6: put time into some of that stuff that I definitely

906
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 6: don't see anymore.

907
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: I just think there's so many things to cover.

908
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 6: Maybe got overlooked, but yeah, there was a back in

909
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 6: the day everybody desensitized their shins and you know, whatever

910
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 6: they could do for their hands. Yet that that's one

911
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 6: hundred percent tro.

912
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 9: And as Blah Muhammad has said, toughness is part of

913
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 9: the equation. Last thing I'll say, right if the peronial

914
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 9: nerve gets hit, obviously, there's nothing you can do. But

915
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 9: like Carlos Kndit's legs were destroyed right in front of me.

916
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 8: Destroyed both of them.

917
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 9: And he's tough, just physically tough and willing to fight

918
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 9: through that. And I do think there's a big spectrum

919
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 9: in terms of where fighters fall on that. But he

920
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 9: was able to fight through that, and a lot of

921
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,120
Speaker 9: fighters can as long as that.

922
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, And plus I'll tell you it's not even it's

923
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 6: not the day to fight, it's.

924
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 10: The next day.

925
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: Man.

926
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 6: You go to walk up those stairs, you're on the toilet,

927
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 6: you go to get up you there were times I'd

928
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 6: spa like, you know, kind of hard and I wouldn't

929
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 6: even feel it, And the next day I was kind

930
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 6: of crippled. Man, that from my knee to my ass

931
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 6: was black and blue. But you wouldn't, you know, Kenny, Like,

932
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 6: it wasn't even It almost became normal. But there were

933
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 6: days that man, it took. It took like a week. Man,

934
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 6: going up the stairs was a nightmare. Yeah, I mean

935
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 6: it was crazy.

936
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

937
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 9: I love your voice, man, Like obviously that your voice

938
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 9: I think was the impetus for us hiring you.

939
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:25,439
Speaker 8: On episode one. I just love listening to your voice.

940
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 9: By the way, we did send you a merchandise check

941
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 9: this week, really to be a surprise.

942
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,320
Speaker 8: I'm sorry.

943
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 2: Oh shoot, why did you ruin the surprise?

944
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 6: Well, had so much fun with that when I went

945
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 6: myself to a Cold Bro with the check.

946
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 3: Well, because I don't want you expecting it.

947
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: At least at least one.

948
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 6: At least whatever is I'm gonna be at the store,

949
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 6: We're gonna see. I'm gonna let the fans equate what

950
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 6: the check was by what I purchased. And for some reason, Kenny,

951
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 6: I really hope it's more than a Cold Bro at

952
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 6: least one.

953
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: At least one, at least one.

954
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 9: We didn't want to make this check too big, you know,

955
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 9: because we didn't want to set the standard too high.

956
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 8: I will disappoint you a little bit though.

957
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 9: The Ray Longo minute shirt, the punch a hole in

958
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 9: his fucking Chess shirt, those are no longer the best seller.

959
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 9: The best seller now actually is me and Ken Flow

960
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 9: on the album cover.

961
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 10: I don't I want I want to see I want

962
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:20,720
Speaker 10: to see.

963
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 8: That with our genie.

964
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 10: I want to see I want to see proof for that. Anyway,

965
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 10: Well before I forget me.

966
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 6: I want to shout out to Uh.

967
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 8: What, well, you gotta go. No, we're just getting guarded.

968
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 6: Before I forget, though, I want to shout out Tara McCormick.

969
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 6: She's the wife of Tom McCormick. You did the show

970
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 6: with rough House with Brian Collen. She's a big fan

971
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 6: of the show.

972
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 8: Okay, no, you have to Oh can you.

973
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 10: Treat people the right ways your life?

974
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 8: I mean, it's unbelievable.

975
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 9: I just thought we'd get to Gilbert Arino Burns before

976
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 9: Tara McCormack.

977
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 6: That's where I want to go Gilbert Burns instead of

978
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 6: shouting out Tara McCormick.

979
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 8: We love there. We appreciate the support.

980
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 6: What did you have fun on the show? Was a

981
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 6: good show with Brian Collen?

982
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 8: Uh?

983
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was good. A lot of media. My twin

984
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 9: brother just walked in here.

985
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 2: There he is, Oh, boy, is that a kiss?

986
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 8: You know?

987
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 9: A lot of volume out there too.

988
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: What's up there, buddy?

989
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 10: Wait to meet you?

990
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: Oh that's out Jay.

991
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 5: That's for everybody who thinks Sean and Jay are the

992
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:26,240
Speaker 5: same person.

993
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 2: Reber show proof.

994
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 9: I just didn't realize this has got to be the

995
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 9: loudest shit you come to Las Vegas, right, and at

996
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 9: like seven thirty in the morning, I'm fucking screaming.

997
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's not great. Huh.

998
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 9: Anyway, I'm just gonna get fucking louder who's in twenty

999
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 9: one twenty two?

1000
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 10: Yeah? Right, who's gonna bang on that wall? Nobody? What

1001
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 10: do we got? Burns?

1002
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 8: All right?

1003
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 9: So uh yeah, how about Gilbert Burns can flow thirty

1004
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 9: to twenty seven on my scorecard?

1005
00:46:58,320 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 8: Uh, I'm very curious.

1006
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,959
Speaker 9: I've say to get Ray Longo's take on Steven wonder

1007
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 9: Boy Thompson in defeat, but ken flow, what did you

1008
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 9: make a Gilbert Burns his big performance over the weekend.

1009
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 2: I was really impressed, man.

1010
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: Again, just not a whole lot of people are able

1011
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 4: to do that to someone like at Steven WonderBoy Thompson.

1012
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: He clearly did his homework.

1013
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't sure he was going to be able to

1014
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 4: do uh to first of all, be able to cut

1015
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 4: off the cage like he did, to pressure him like

1016
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 4: he did, and I think him getting respect with his

1017
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: strikes is what enabled him to get to those clinch

1018
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 4: positions and take him down. Gilbert is one of the

1019
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 4: best guard passers in the world and has been known

1020
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 4: as as such in the.

1021
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: Jiu jitsu world.

1022
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 4: So his top pressure is is something to behold, and

1023
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 4: he was really doing a great job of cutting him

1024
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 4: off with hooks, getting to that clinch position, and finishing

1025
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 4: a lot of those takedowns. So I was extremely impressed

1026
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 4: with Burns's strategy, his tactics, and the fact that he

1027
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 4: was able to switch things around so quickly. Mentally, coming

1028
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 4: off of that loss to Kamara Usban to the Gilbert

1029
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 4: Burns who was there on Saturday night in Vegas.

1030
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 8: Ray, why are you doing with your camera? I'm trying

1031
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 8: to listen to Kenny looking around.

1032
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,880
Speaker 6: I'm fidgeting because you scored that fight thirty twenty seven.

1033
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,040
Speaker 6: How dare you? It was twenty nine twenty eight for sure.

1034
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 8: That's fine, that's fine for you.

1035
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought twenty You couldn't have given the guy

1036
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 6: the second round.

1037
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 10: It's impossible.

1038
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 8: Oh, it is not impossible. I'm by you. We have

1039
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 8: the same strength and conditioning coaches.

1040
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 6: Oh in that case, in that case, go with thirty

1041
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 6: twenty seven.

1042
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 9: No, I thought it was thirty to twenty seven. But

1043
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 9: I guess that's neither here nor there. What were your

1044
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 9: thoughts on the fight? You know, Michael Bisbeck on the

1045
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 9: postfight show wasn't trying to take away from Gilbert Burns's performance,

1046
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 9: but he said it was an off night for Steven Thompson.

1047
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 8: What were your thoughts on the fight?

1048
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 6: I love Bisbee, absolutely him, and I think he was

1049
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 6: right on the money you ed today because Gilbert did

1050
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 6: a great job. Uh, you know, what, what are you

1051
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 6: going to say? I think Kenny summed it up.

1052
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 10: I mean, I don't. He did a really good job.

1053
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 6: I think the fact that he was even shooting, I

1054
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 6: didn't think he'd be able to take him down, uh,

1055
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 6: you know, or really get the range on him like that.

1056
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 6: But you could see that fight was either going to

1057
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 6: be either either do that or you stay on the

1058
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 6: outside and you lose.

1059
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 10: So I think, you.

1060
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 6: Know, uh, he did a great job, you know, because

1061
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,760
Speaker 6: a lot of people get stuck like a deer in headlights,

1062
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 6: and I thought that's what would happen to him. But

1063
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 6: you know, like again, Vincente. Luke is his training partner.

1064
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 6: He never shot once in that fight. I don't believe.

1065
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 8: I don't.

1066
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 10: I don't believe he did.

1067
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 6: But uh, and and this guy, I think that was

1068
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 6: the change of plans was just just going forward when

1069
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 6: you feel like you can't.

1070
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 2: And uh, that's what he did.

1071
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 10: You know.

1072
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 6: The first shot was pretty long, but he got to

1073
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 6: the let I think, and he made it work and

1074
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 6: that was it.

1075
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's hard to tell whether it was the

1076
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: threat of the takedown, the pressure, or whether.

1077
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 2: It was Wonder Boy just being a little bit more

1078
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 2: gun shy than normal.

1079
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 4: You know, typically you see a Wonder Boy that is

1080
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: moving a little bit better.

1081
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 2: That's a little bit sharper. But I don't know. Again,

1082
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 2: it's you can have an off night or.

1083
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 4: Not, or a little bit or be off by a

1084
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: lot and one night and and the whole game changes.

1085
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 4: So either way, you know, both guys, uh, you know,

1086
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 4: came to fight and you got to take the good

1087
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 4: with the bad, and and Gilbert Burns ended up getting

1088
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 4: it done.

1089
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,760
Speaker 2: Man, it was It was amazing guys, both guys.

1090
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 10: You know, we're in the spot they wanted to be.

1091
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 6: When Wonder Boy hit that spin kick, he wobbled them

1092
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 6: nice combos off of that. But you know, the guy,

1093
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 6: let you know, the guy was durable and he was

1094
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 6: able to come back and go back to his game plan.

1095
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 6: So yeah, no, it was a great fight for Gilbert Burns.

1096
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,800
Speaker 10: It really it really was Cody.

1097
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 9: See if you can back up being Parkers ten minutes.

1098
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 9: So a few other things real quick eleven scorecards at

1099
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 9: mmadecisions dot Com thirty to twenty seven, Burns the other

1100
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 9: eleven twenty nine to twenty eight. So I rest my

1101
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 9: case on that. I don't know if you guys find

1102
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 9: this interesting. Kenny might, because I know Kenny knows JC

1103
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 9: Santana and some of the old school sort of training techniques.

1104
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 9: They do a lot at the Institute of Human Performance

1105
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 9: JAC and Rio Santana, the guys that I work with

1106
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 9: every week. I don't do this training right, but they

1107
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 9: do a lot of simulation training and they've been doing

1108
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 9: this with Gilbert Burns for four years.

1109
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 8: His cardio base is just outstanding. He's very strong.

1110
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 9: Jorge Mosfiedal said to me this week that Gilbert is

1111
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 9: a little bit undersized for the weight class, and I

1112
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 9: know Joe Rogan disagrees with this. We talked about it

1113
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 9: on the broadcast on the pay per view, but he

1114
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 9: he's not like giving up strength necessarily. But look at

1115
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 9: somebody like Michelle Padeda is a welterweight, you know, like

1116
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 9: Gilbert Burns, is a little bit undersized when when matched

1117
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 9: up with that guy. But Dana was a little bit

1118
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 9: critical of Gilbert Burns at the postfight press conference. Gilbert

1119
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 9: Burns came over after the fight and said to Dana,

1120
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 9: you know, sorry, man, whatever, But part of the reason

1121
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 9: why Gilbert ascended so quickly to a title fight is

1122
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 9: because he has been exciting. And for those who want

1123
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 9: to criticize Gilbert Burns' performance, I would submit to you this.

1124
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 9: At the end of the fight, Ken, right, say what

1125
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 9: you want about a wayward shot here there, maybe to

1126
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 9: the back of the head, right, Ray, but liked he's

1127
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 9: trying to finish the fight though, well yeah, but like

1128
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 9: do you think he's trying to finish the fight there?

1129
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 9: Just like sitting on a lead like everybody's booing him.

1130
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 9: He's literally trying to knock wonder Boy's head off. Like

1131
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 9: I just I don't know. I hate the criticism of

1132
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 9: these athletes. And if this performance, right, fighting a guy

1133
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 9: who's so hard to beat stylistically, if this performance is

1134
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 9: going to get criticized, like, then maybe I'm in the

1135
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 9: wrong sport. But obviously, Ray, you thought it was very

1136
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 9: egregious those shots to the back of the head, so.

1137
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 2: He already already won the fight right at that point.

1138
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 9: But the point is is that, like, right, he like

1139
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 9: he's trying to finish though, like he's probably somebody the

1140
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 9: universating fighter too, and then he still gets criticized, you know, like.

1141
00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,840
Speaker 6: Well, nobody's criticizing the fight, but you got to criticize

1142
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 6: if he's pitting the guy illegally in the back of

1143
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:59,720
Speaker 6: the head and absolutely.

1144
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 9: Absolutely separating the potential foul from his desire Kenny to

1145
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 9: be offensive late in the fight.

1146
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:06,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I'll see this listen.

1147
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 6: So his desire led him to throw illegal blows? Is

1148
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 6: that what you're saying. I'm trying to follow the.

1149
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 8: Logic, Kenny, go ahead, I guess for me?

1150
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 2: Is this right?

1151
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 4: It's like people will criticize, you know, especially you know,

1152
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 4: someone like Dana who who's you know, you know, the

1153
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 4: president of the UFC and all that stuff. But literally

1154
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 4: your career can change so quickly with one loss, and

1155
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 4: you know, if you're going to criticize guys for losing

1156
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 4: and criticize guys for winning, now, what the hell are

1157
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 4: you supposed to do? What do you what are you

1158
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:49,320
Speaker 4: supposed to do if you're only making so much money

1159
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 4: or you're only you know, there's so much on the

1160
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,520
Speaker 4: line with your approach and what you're trying to do

1161
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 4: in the sport. I think it's tough, and I do

1162
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 4: think that listen, be it can go away, you know,

1163
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 4: way too much one way, right, But it's an art too,

1164
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: and everyone's going to have a certain style and approach,

1165
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 4: and you got to do what's going to get you

1166
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 4: the win.

1167
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: Also, it's going to keep you safe too.

1168
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 4: You know, guys are going to take that approach, and

1169
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 4: so again, you you got to put.

1170
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 2: All those things into context.

1171
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 4: I thought that Gilbert Burns, you know, fought a good fight.

1172
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 4: One doesn't just go out there and knock out Steven

1173
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,399
Speaker 4: Warner Boy Thompson. Okay, that usually doesn't work out very

1174
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 4: well for people. So I thought that he did what

1175
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 4: he had to do to get the win. Maybe it

1176
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: wasn't the prettiest thing, but he got it done, and

1177
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 4: he holds his spot or potentially moves up and gets

1178
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 4: closer to a rematch. But I don't like hearing that

1179
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 4: from day and I don't like hearing that about people.

1180
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 4: Oh they didn't fight this way the way he's trying

1181
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 4: to get the fucking win. Man, He's trying to get

1182
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:54,120
Speaker 4: the win. You know, at the end of the day,

1183
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 4: if he gets a loss, and that's an elbias record,

1184
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 4: you know, no, no one's gonna be talking about that

1185
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 4: sell anyways.

1186
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 10: But wait, wait, I think I think it was a

1187
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 10: great win for Burns. Nobody.

1188
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:06,959
Speaker 6: I'm not disagreed with that look and the illegal shot.

1189
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 6: I mean I thought they were illegal shot, but that's

1190
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 6: on the ref. That's not on Gilbert Burns. I'm not

1191
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 6: I'm just saying I don't know where the ref should

1192
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 6: have stopped, stepped in and said, you know, it's an

1193
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:16,799
Speaker 6: illegal blow.

1194
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 10: I mean, you're hitting them in the back of the

1195
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 10: head or the back of the neck. I don't know.

1196
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 6: I didn't really look at it that bad, and I

1197
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 6: didn't make a big deal out of it at the time.

1198
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 6: I just thought, man, those blows are going a little south.

1199
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 10: Nobody say on.

1200
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 8: The broadcast, you know, I mean, it was chaos. You

1201
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 8: probably couldn't hear me. But if you go, man, I

1202
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 8: definitely acknowledged that.

1203
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 6: No, I didn't even I couldn't hear I didn't hear it.

1204
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 9: I was more just sort of thinking about this, thematy

1205
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 9: of people saying that Gilbert Burns wasn't maybe offensive enough,

1206
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 9: and then I'm looking at him in a most violent way,

1207
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 9: still trying to you know, give off as much output

1208
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:47,399
Speaker 9: late in the fight.

1209
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 8: But I don't know, maybe I'm not.

1210
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 9: Objective, but very surprised that there's any criticism after he

1211
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 9: literally takes what is like the hardest stylistic matchup for

1212
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 9: like anybody.

1213
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 6: In the Yeah, yeah, without of doubt. No, no, no,

1214
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:58,760
Speaker 6: that's off to Gilbert Burns.

1215
00:55:58,760 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 10: Nobody.

1216
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 6: I don't think anybody. I didn't and I didn't even

1217
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 6: hear the press conference, so I don't that's look, but

1218
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 6: that's been going on since day one, you know what

1219
00:56:06,320 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 6: I mean, like that criticism, if you can't take criticism,

1220
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 6: and that we're going.

1221
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 8: To right get your ass out of the kitchen, right.

1222
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 10: I mean, actually, how long those public.

1223
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 8: Approval rating is so good that it doesn't No, it doesn't.

1224
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 10: I'm just saying, you know, you know, this game at

1225
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 10: this point is crazy.

1226
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 9: All right, Sugar Shan O'Malley over Chris Moutino. And there

1227
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 9: are a lot of different layers to this statistical league.

1228
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 10: I can't wait for this one.

1229
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 9: So Kenny, Statistically, this is one of the most impressive

1230
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 9: offensive performances.

1231
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 8: I'm saying statistically right.

1232
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:38,919
Speaker 9: I mean it was a mismatch of the highest order,

1233
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 9: But I mean he landed like eighty five percent of

1234
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 9: his strikes and landed a historically great amount of them.

1235
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 8: But there was the stoppage. There's a lot of different

1236
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 8: layers to this.

1237
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 9: I got a tech from Ray long ago, and I

1238
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 9: know we maybe disagree on this a little bit, so,

1239
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,080
Speaker 9: uh well, i'll tell you.

1240
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 6: I'll tell you, Yeah, I'll tell you why we disagree.

1241
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 6: And I thought the stoppage was horrible. For one, like,

1242
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 6: what why'd they stop it? Why do they stop that fight?

1243
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 6: Why do they look at a fight even happen let's

1244
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 6: go to that. Why do you let a minus one

1245
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 6: thousand what was the odds after the first round? Minus

1246
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 6: fifty thousand? Who thought he was gonna win after the

1247
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 6: first round? Why not stop it after the first round

1248
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 6: and go, you know what, it doesn't look good, We're

1249
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 6: gonna stop it? Well, why why not do that if

1250
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 6: you're out to protect a fighter. Everybody knew that kid

1251
00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 6: was gonna lose that fight. There wasn't one person that

1252
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 6: thought he was gonna win. Why not let him at

1253
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,440
Speaker 6: least walk out with twenty seconds to go.

1254
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 10: That's my point. Why let the.

1255
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 6: Fight happen in the first place, if you give it

1256
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 6: about him? And why let it go past the first round?

1257
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 6: Everybody knew. Did the odds go down? Did they go

1258
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 6: down to plus five hundred? Seriously, Kenny Man, my wrong

1259
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: on that.

1260
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 8: You're right me.

1261
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 6: The fight shouldn't happen, so at least the kid got

1262
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 6: that far. Let him go out with something. I don't

1263
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 6: know if that's anything or if that's stupid, but the

1264
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 6: whole point is, if you're there to protect that guy,

1265
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 6: stop it. After the first run, everybody knew what was

1266
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 6: going to happen, and O'Malley's awesome and I love it.

1267
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,959
Speaker 6: I think he's got the best feints in the game

1268
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 6: and he really knows how to work well for that.

1269
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 6: I don't want to even take anything away from that kid,

1270
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 6: But it's the it's the behind the scenes, it's.

1271
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,560
Speaker 10: The fact of letting that fight go on. So to

1272
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 10: save a fight, let's just throw the guy in.

1273
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 6: There and then we're just going to stop it with

1274
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 6: twenty second.

1275
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 10: I don't know that part. I don't get.

1276
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 6: I think the fight, if you really cared about that kid,

1277
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 6: you stop it after the first round. Go you know what, man,

1278
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 6: come back another time. It's not looking good. It looks

1279
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 6: like a mismatch to me, maybe we didn't do this right.

1280
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 6: If you could, but if you're not, you know, I

1281
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:39,240
Speaker 6: don't know.

1282
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:41,479
Speaker 2: Right.

1283
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 4: Listen, you make a great point. I mean, I don't

1284
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: have a whole lot to counter with. I think the

1285
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 4: only thing I will say is this is that you

1286
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: know there's one punch that could change it. You know,

1287
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 4: he was eating a lot of shots. It was clearly

1288
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 4: a mismatch. But to your point, then.

1289
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 2: They should have stopped the fight earlier than that.

1290
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 4: Uh, that kid was fighting his ass off and now

1291
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,800
Speaker 4: you kind of took you took away from his ability

1292
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 4: to at least go the distance him. That's that's the

1293
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 4: that's the harmful party. The kid was fighting his heart out.

1294
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, because.

1295
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 6: I'm youing is that it's been around so long. Well,

1296
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 6: he had to protect the not you're here to make

1297
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 6: a fight. That's what you did. You didn't want to

1298
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:28,959
Speaker 6: lose a fight, and you gave the kid a sacrificial

1299
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 6: lamb technically.

1300
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 10: And if you know, and maybe he wouldn't have been.

1301
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 6: But after the first round, you knew where that fight

1302
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 6: was going, and if it was going in the opposite direction,

1303
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 6: I don't know, Maybe I'm wrong, then yeah, I guess,

1304
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,200
Speaker 6: and it's mma, anything could happened, And if that's the case,

1305
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Speaker 6: then it's another thirty seconds, let it continue.

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Speaker 10: Maybe lends a haymaker.

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Speaker 2: Right and you know, to say what Ray was saying earlier.

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Speaker 4: You know, again, because of the implications of what happened

1309
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Speaker 4: before the fight, obviously O'Malley loses his original opponent gets

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Speaker 4: in there with the kid who's coming in in his

1311
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Speaker 4: UFC debut against one of the best strikers in that division.

1312
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Speaker 4: It seems that John Maalley, as soon as you see

1313
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Speaker 4: a mismatch, like if you see a mismatch in boxing

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Speaker 4: like that on that kind of order, they're stopping the fight,

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Speaker 4: you know, because yeah, and that's the thing the other

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01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 4: court too, So you got you gotta be aware of

1317
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: those kind of things because maybe maybe he doesn't come

1318
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Speaker 4: back well in his second fight in the UFC and

1319
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Speaker 4: all of a sudden his career is over because he

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Speaker 4: hung out.

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Speaker 2: There for another two rounds. So for again.

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Speaker 4: Whether it's the referee or the corner or whatever it is,

1323
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Speaker 4: when you see that kind of a mismatch. You save

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Speaker 4: your fighters playing, hey, listen, this guy, he's you're taking

1325
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Speaker 4: a lot of damage. Let's just we'll come back to

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Speaker 4: fight another day. So that was that was a tough

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Speaker 4: one for me. But the toughness and the heart and Lutino,

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Speaker 4: I was just it was it was unbelievable.

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Speaker 6: I was so impressed with that kid, Absolutely beautiful because

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Speaker 6: you know, what you've missed, John is like ideal a

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01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 6: lot of times with the commissions when I'm you know,

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Speaker 6: on the local shows due the fights that they turned

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Speaker 6: down as well, you know, I think that's a dude,

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Speaker 6: no idea.

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Speaker 10: What the fuck they're talking about?

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Speaker 6: So that that this and then they'll do that all

1337
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Speaker 6: day long with me trying to get a guy a fight,

1338
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 6: and then they'll.

1339
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Speaker 2: Let this ship go on.

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Speaker 6: That's the problem, and that's where I'm at, man, That's

1341
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 6: that's it. You know, if you really want to protect people,

1342
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:28,919
Speaker 6: do it the right way. Don't just posture and say

1343
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 6: we're here at a level of field and we had

1344
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 6: to make sure because it's fucking bullshit and that that

1345
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 6: just thinks, man, for that kid to have that fight stop.

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01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 9: At that point, my brother was watching with a boxing

1347
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 9: trainer who said to him after round two, he said,

1348
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 9: if I was there, I would throw in the towel

1349
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 9: right now.

1350
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 8: And I thought that was interesting as well.

1351
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 9: I thought maybe there should have been a stern warning

1352
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 9: from Herb Dean if he was going to stop the

1353
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 9: fight at some point, like Chris, you've got to raise

1354
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 9: your gun.

1355
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 10: That would have been parallel because.

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Speaker 4: Listen, what was like over two hundred punches that he lands,

1357
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 4: which is not by like regular Joe blow on the street.

1358
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: These are professional fighters punches.

1359
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Speaker 4: And furthermore, O'Malley who knows how to really punch.

1360
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Speaker 2: He knows how to hurt people.

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Speaker 4: So that's two hundred punches by Sean O'Malley, not just

1362
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 4: like some kid, you know, some fourteen year old kid.

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Speaker 2: It's a different level.

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Speaker 8: We can't quantify.

1365
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 9: The extent to which Chris Moutino's career was shortened by

1366
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,160
Speaker 9: this fight, but I think we can all agree that

1367
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 9: there's a price to be paid for taking that type

1368
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 9: of damage. And you know, I guess for me, right

1369
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Speaker 9: like when I sort of understand, when I say publicly

1370
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Speaker 9: that I understand Herbdan in this situation, then all of

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01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 9: a sudden, I'm saying that he's the gold standard, right,

1372
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Speaker 9: which I've never said, you know, like I've never put

1373
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,479
Speaker 9: Herb Dean over per se.

1374
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:48,960
Speaker 8: But the whole moral victory thing.

1375
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 9: See, you guys are coaches and fighters and you're in

1376
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 9: the game and I'm not, you know, so for me, Kenny,

1377
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 9: it's like the moral victory thing. For me, I just

1378
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 9: you know, I thought it's it's massively disappointing for him, right,

1379
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 9: I'm glad he got the seventy five thousand dollars and

1380
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 9: maybe that kind of helps the whole equation. But I'm

1381
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 9: literally right there, and you guys are right there at times,

1382
01:03:09,880 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 9: and like sometimes there just comes a point as a

1383
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 9: human being where you can't let a man take another shot.

1384
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 9: And if there was one twenty nine on the clock,

1385
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,800
Speaker 9: it would have been a better aesthetic for Herb Dean.

1386
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 9: But I can understand when you're right there, all of

1387
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 9: a sudden, it's like, you know what, I've been trying

1388
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 9: to let this guy finish the fight, right, But if

1389
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 9: he had given a stern warning at the four minute

1390
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 9: mark in round three, then I think people would would

1391
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 9: be able to sort of.

1392
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 6: I totally agree with that. I don't even look, I'm

1393
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 6: not even knocking herb Dean. I'm just saying I think

1394
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 6: the fight should have you know, you should have let

1395
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 6: that kid finish at that given point time.

1396
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 10: You're right if he stops it.

1397
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 6: You know, he goes after the second round and says, listen, man,

1398
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 6: like I don't want to see it. Take this punishment.

1399
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,520
Speaker 6: You're not really connecting with much. You're eating a lot.

1400
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,040
Speaker 6: And then he stops at forty five seconds into that

1401
01:03:59,080 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 6: third round.

1402
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:01,959
Speaker 10: I think he looks like a hero. It's just the.

1403
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 6: Timing of it was all for me. I mean, he

1404
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,320
Speaker 6: could have if he stopped at the beginning of the

1405
01:04:06,320 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 6: third round. I don't think anybody says anything.

1406
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's tough.

1407
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 4: It's I mean again, we can go back to the

1408
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 4: first fight between Julio Sesso Chavez and Meldrick Taylor, where

1409
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 4: they literally stopped the one second to go in the

1410
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: final round of a world championship fight.

1411
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 14: That Taylor was was winning and win and yeah, right exactly,

1412
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 14: and still was looking at him and actually didn't let

1413
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 14: him continue.

1414
01:04:32,560 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 2: It was it was a crazy thing.

1415
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:38,479
Speaker 4: So, you know, I think hopefully more than anything else,

1416
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,680
Speaker 4: this becomes a good learning lesson, you know, not only

1417
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 4: for you know, the fighters involved, the referee involved, but

1418
01:04:45,240 --> 01:04:48,160
Speaker 4: for the UFC as well, you know, and other organizations

1419
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 4: to say, hey, listen, we need to make these choices

1420
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 4: a little bit wiser for for how we're matching these

1421
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 4: guys up.

1422
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 9: For me, right, and again it's somebody And I know

1423
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 9: sometimes people hate when I bring this up, but as

1424
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 9: a former boxing journalists to whatever degree, who was in

1425
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 9: the building when a professional boxer passed away, For me,

1426
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 9: this is harder to watch than to see a guy's

1427
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 9: leg snap right, just to see that perpetual damage.

1428
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 8: Uh excuse John, Look that's this morning.

1429
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 6: And look, the UFC did a great job with damage control, right,

1430
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 6: fight at a night, So everybody now shifts their focused

1431
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 6: to at least that kid got the seventy five grand.

1432
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 10: He got something.

1433
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 6: So but what's seventy five grand if you can't fucking

1434
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 6: eat your cereal in the morning?

1435
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 10: You know.

1436
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 6: So the whole thing is crazy to me. It's just

1437
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 6: you know, but this is the sport everybody signs off for.

1438
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 6: So I have absolutely no problem with that because if

1439
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 6: you're not into it, don't do it. But you know,

1440
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 6: I think I don't know whatever.

1441
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 8: All right, Hey, thanks for the time today. Man, Wow,

1442
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 8: you are on fire a little ready.

1443
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 5: Might need an extra round after that?

1444
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:54,760
Speaker 2: One ship an extra Cody extra?

1445
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 6: Did you actually believe it or not? I hang up

1446
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 6: on this and I go right then went unfiltered after this.

1447
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 6: I'm like a professional podcasting war at this point.

1448
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: Absolutely, we love your services. Love a good job.

1449
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 6: Hey, real quick on a different Oh you got something, John,

1450
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 6: I interrupted.

1451
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 8: You're using us as a warm up for uh you speak?

1452
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 9: I did plug extra rounds on television this weekend, but

1453
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 9: you didn't notice that.

1454
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:25,439
Speaker 8: What were you going to say? Right ahead?

1455
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 4: Now?

1456
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 10: You took a deep breath. I figured it was something good.

1457
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 2: Uh did anybody?

1458
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 6: Let me just shouty because I loved Dan Lambert at somebody,

1459
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,560
Speaker 6: one of my guys brought me the clip of him

1460
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 6: doing professional wrestling.

1461
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 10: Have you seen that?

1462
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 6: I know it's phenomenal. The guy doesn't. I cannot play.

1463
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 6: I think that guy's my age. Man, he gets thrown.

1464
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 6: I was, man, I give it up to Dan if

1465
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,479
Speaker 6: you're out there, fucking great job on that really great.

1466
01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,240
Speaker 6: I mean even on his mic skills he was. He

1467
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 6: was phenomenal. Man.

1468
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 10: I was blown away by that. I got quote of God.

1469
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 6: I was teaching somebody said, did you see this?

1470
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 10: And I go, wow, I see this? Now you got Kenny,

1471
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 10: I tell you it's where it's worth the look.

1472
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 6: Man. You know, but you don't really see Dan out

1473
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,959
Speaker 6: right publicly like a lot speaking And it was nice

1474
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 6: to see.

1475
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 9: Fun fact Dan Lambert two time guests on the Anakin

1476
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 9: Florent podcast, one of my absolute favorites.

1477
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:22,600
Speaker 8: Wow, yeah, so.

1478
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 2: I never didn't know that.

1479
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, we'll listen to the.

1480
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 8: Podcast, but listen to it back, get better.

1481
01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 9: Ray, If you don't unbelievable, at least subscribe to the

1482
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 9: show on your fucking phone.

1483
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 8: Try.

1484
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: Oh tell me, I'm not am I subscriber?

1485
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 6: ID I swear, I hate so, I hate the whole

1486
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 6: thing I hate.

1487
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:44,000
Speaker 8: I know you do. I know you do.

1488
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 6: I'm going right now subscribing, right before I do Unfiltered

1489
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 6: the extra rounds.

1490
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 10: I'm gonna subscribe right now.

1491
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 8: Send our best to Tara McCormick.

1492
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 9: Unless you have anything else, we're gonna unceremoniously remove you

1493
01:07:58,040 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 9: from well.

1494
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 6: I think we should shout out our fans on a

1495
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,360
Speaker 6: weekly basis to show our appreciation.

1496
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, no doubt about it.

1497
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 10: You just want to keep this. You just want to

1498
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,439
Speaker 10: keep fucking people over I don't know either.

1499
01:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 2: Rule it a shill?

1500
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 6: You know, my god, the guy wears a he wears

1501
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 6: a Gucci suit.

1502
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 10: This is what we got to deal with it.

1503
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's not a Gucci suit.

1504
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 6: And Mark Russell, Sorry, Mark.

1505
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 8: You'll never see it again. You'll never see suit again, and.

1506
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 6: You'll never see me wearing this shirt again.

1507
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,960
Speaker 8: You see what I'm wearing at UFC two sixty.

1508
01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:36,920
Speaker 6: Fact, I'm excited.

1509
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 2: I'm telling this should be a new thing.

1510
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 10: What John?

1511
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 6: I love it?

1512
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 8: Can you imagine? Though?

1513
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 9: I just to be Actually, the only way I would

1514
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:49,760
Speaker 9: go down this path would just be the fuck with buffer, right, will.

1515
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:50,679
Speaker 2: Throw down with you, dude.

1516
01:08:50,680 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 10: If you start, it's going to.

1517
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 2: Be a problem.

1518
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 9: Imagine if I show up like full white suit or

1519
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 9: something the UFC two, It's like, what are we doing here?

1520
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 8: You know?

1521
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 9: I literally could could sort of like, uh, devise a

1522
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 9: scheme with our UFC social team to ruin his life.

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Speaker 8: But I'm not gonna do all right, man, thank you,

1524
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Speaker 8: my man.

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Speaker 9: Hey, today, somebody put uh dustin Pourier's Louisiana hot sauce

1526
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,680
Speaker 9: in Tavasa's shoey.

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01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 10: He's crazy, did you see it?

1528
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 2: It's messed up, dude, did you see I did see it, but.

1529
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,560
Speaker 4: He did like he did, like what three things of

1530
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 4: beer on the way out.

1531
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: He's a savage dude.

1532
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 10: You're not stopping that guy.

1533
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 6: Impossible, not stop as a I mean, come on, that's

1534
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 6: a joke. Thirty Maybe we start talking. I don't even

1535
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 6: think then he's no, he's the best. That guy was believable. Hey, right, anyway, guys,

1536
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 6: seventh grade week. I'll see you next week.

1537
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 9: There is your contributions to Ray Longo minute every week

1538
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 9: here on the Anakin Floring Podcast. I just opened up

1539
01:09:58,400 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 9: a TV twelve electure like packaging. As I'm starting to

1540
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 9: feel a little nauseated because of the casamigos last night,

1541
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 9: it is time for the pronunciation of the week, as

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01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,719
Speaker 9: we welcome in, uh, the good natured Cody Merrill.

1543
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:12,400
Speaker 5: This guy's out of his mind. Huh right, all right, Grey,

1544
01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 5: Oh he's you. I mean, you're half half your mind's

1545
01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 5: here today, so he's.

1546
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 2: Going to bring up the slack.

1547
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 9: This This Gilbert Burns criticism to me, is fucking insanity,

1548
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 9: absolute insanity.

1549
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 8: You know, all right, Cody, it's great to see you.

1550
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 9: We have two files that we want to play today,

1551
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 9: but for our pronunciation of the week. This first athlete

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 9: will be taking on Jeremy Stevens, featured about on the

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01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 9: main card, which you can see I believe on both

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01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 9: the ESPN Plus and ESPN this weekend.

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01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 8: Cody, Uh, which lightweight are we talking about here? Kids?

1556
01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 5: Give me embarrassing Mathuse Scamrot.

1557
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 2: My name is Monte.

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01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 8: My nique name is.

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 5: Matthuse scam Ro, Mattouch.

1560
01:10:57,040 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 8: I thought it was my name is my nique name is.

1561
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 2: Matthaus Macaws.

1562
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 5: I definitely didn't get it right, but I think it's Mataus.

1563
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 8: But I got Villa.

1564
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 5: I got my validation from Dricis himself on the broadcast,

1565
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 5: by the way, So.

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01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 8: No, I'm glad you bring that up.

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01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:18,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do.

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01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 9: There's there's a little more leeway right now with our

1569
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 9: producers than there was six months ago, right because ultimately

1570
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 9: we're leaning into the syllabic emphasis, and as long as

1571
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,760
Speaker 9: the right syllable is emphasized, there are going to be

1572
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 9: different interpretations of these files. Right, So Dracus DUPLESSI, okay,

1573
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:40,040
Speaker 9: if we play that file for you again, right, And

1574
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 9: I know Cody has it right, but he says Dracus

1575
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 9: once and then Dracus and then he goes in the

1576
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 9: octagon with Joe Rogan and says it's Dracas Duplessy. So

1577
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 9: we got the dupless right. But I don't know that

1578
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 9: anyone in the world other than him knows right now whether.

1579
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 8: It's Dracus, Dracus or dracis.

1580
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing, John, I don't. I don't know

1581
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 5: anybody if you pair the two of us, who has

1582
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 5: listening to this file?

1583
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 2: More like I don't.

1584
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 5: I listened to this, you know, Yeah, after the show,

1585
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:09,840
Speaker 5: I have to go through and be like trying to

1586
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 5: defend myself. But and I thought he listened to the show,

1587
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 5: and then he came on to the thing and he

1588
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 5: was like, listen, Joe Rogan, Cody Merrow had it right,

1589
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 5: and he was the only one. So like, go watch

1590
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 5: Anak and Florian podcast. No free plugs here, I mean

1591
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,680
Speaker 5: free plugs all over the place for these shows on

1592
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,920
Speaker 5: ESPN with guys that don't even fight, like I'm here

1593
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 5: with John Anak and Kenny Floriano.

1594
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 9: And by the way, Dracus DUPLESSI Ken Flow, the South

1595
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,160
Speaker 9: African who won a Performance of the Night bonus. Cody

1596
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 9: stay here, don't go anywhere, a seventy five thousand dollars

1597
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 9: bonus for him. He looked out standing, I thought, and

1598
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 9: I will say too in our fighter meeting, he said.

1599
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 9: The first UFC live event he went to was January

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01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 9: of twenty twenty Connor versus Cowboy at T Mobile Arena.

1601
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:52,120
Speaker 8: He went as a fan.

1602
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: Woow.

1603
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 8: A year later he's fighting on a Connor Gregor headline card.

1604
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: That's cool.

1605
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,600
Speaker 5: It's kind of all downhill from there, right like you

1606
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,559
Speaker 5: go to on her card your first card. My first

1607
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 5: Conrad was Derek Lewis versus uh Ibragimov.

1608
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 2: I think what his name is. I don't know. Oh yeah, yeah,

1609
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: that was not a good one.

1610
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 9: My first card was UXC eighty seven at the Target

1611
01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 9: Center in Minnesota. ESPN flew me out there just to

1612
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:21,519
Speaker 9: watch Ken Flow beat the fuck out of Roger Ware

1613
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 9: to thirty twenty seven.

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,879
Speaker 8: Fucking right, huge win. Yeah, go fight pass dot com?

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01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 8: Oh man dot com. Who's Kenny Florian? Yeah, usc fight passed?

1616
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 8: I know that guy, all right?

1617
01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 9: So what I need from you guys now, because I

1618
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:37,400
Speaker 9: don't want to keep you waiting any longer. Thiago Moyses

1619
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 9: is fighting whom in the main event. I want to

1620
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 9: hear both of you say Islam's name and then we're

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01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 9: going to play the file.

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01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:44,040
Speaker 8: So h Cody, you first.

1623
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 5: Islam Mahachev go for Kenny your turn.

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:50,120
Speaker 3: You get to.

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01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 8: Guess, well, actually you know what Kenny. I mean.

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01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 5: No, I want Kenny to guess. Now I get put

1627
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:54,799
Speaker 5: on the spotlight.

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01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: All Mahaschev.

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01:13:56,280 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 8: Yeah, you guys both got it right. Let's hear him

1630
01:13:58,439 --> 01:14:08,200
Speaker 8: say schlum, hush a little bit of that Borlam Makhachev.

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01:14:10,479 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 2: Got it.

1632
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 8: So it's not Makashev. Right.

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01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 9: So I did that for everybody this weekend, because hey,

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01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 9: anytime you see Kashev.

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01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 8: Right, maka Chev?

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01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,519
Speaker 9: All right, that is it for the pronunciation of the week.

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01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 9: And let us not keep a fine man waiting. Let

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01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 9: us get to the main event challenge.

1640
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,680
Speaker 1: It's the main event challenge.

1641
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 9: Time is most How do you everythink will to win.

1642
01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:48,640
Speaker 1: The main event challenge? John and Kenny Florian podcast.

1643
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,719
Speaker 9: All right, big week for the duck Ian Parker as usual,

1644
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,680
Speaker 9: he has had a historically great handicapping season, Like if

1645
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:56,439
Speaker 9: this was the NFL and it was just a season

1646
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,240
Speaker 9: and you would really be celebrated. But uh eleven and

1647
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 9: one as you who so humbly texted me over the weekend,

1648
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 9: you look tan you look good. Congrats on kick and

1649
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:07,240
Speaker 9: Ken flows ass once again.

1650
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:10,719
Speaker 3: I was outside for like twelve minutes.

1651
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 15: Castano's got out of the house and I got some

1652
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 15: burnt somehow. It wasn't even out like it's been raining otherwise.

1653
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 15: It's kind of ridiculous, but uh yeah, you should see

1654
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 15: he runs out of the house.

1655
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:20,720
Speaker 3: These vendor is.

1656
01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 9: Like, and you just tell our audience what kind of

1657
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,360
Speaker 9: John Stanos is and how much he weighs right now?

1658
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 15: Yeah, he's a half great day and half English masterf

1659
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:32,120
Speaker 15: he's about a year and I haven't waiged him in

1660
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 15: a little bit.

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01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 3: He's between one thirty five and one forty right now.

1662
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 15: But he's his height on his hind legs, he's about

1663
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 15: five eight five nine on all four. So like when

1664
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 15: he goes under the kitchen table and he like stands up,

1665
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 15: the table lifts like he's not allowed under the table

1666
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 15: anymore to lay down. That's uh but he I guess

1667
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 15: he thoughts I was outside and the door was kind

1668
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:54,080
Speaker 15: of open.

1669
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 3: He opens the door and we live in a cul

1670
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:56,320
Speaker 3: de sac.

1671
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 15: He bolts out there and there's these landscapers are out

1672
01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 15: there and they all jump back in their truck. He

1673
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 15: ran up to him and his tails. I'm like, yo,

1674
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 15: he's good, He's just a baby. They're like yeah.

1675
01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 9: But week on the show, we will show a still

1676
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 9: image of Fanos. We don't have a queue up today,

1677
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,720
Speaker 9: but every time Ian texts me a picture of this dog,

1678
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 9: can flow awestruck every time, Like without family and you

1679
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:22,280
Speaker 9: have this amazing purple chair in your house, Just put

1680
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,439
Speaker 9: Fantos next to the purple chair so I can let me.

1681
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,639
Speaker 3: Get Fanus in here right now. He's laying outside the door.

1682
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 4: But he's in the bantamweight division now, but he might

1683
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 4: end up in the middle weight.

1684
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 15: He was gonna he was gonna fight O'Malley on short notice,

1685
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 15: but Sean said no.

1686
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, So all right, so we have three picks to

1687
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:40,120
Speaker 9: make today. But Ian, I guess I just wanted to

1688
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 9: first get your biggest takeaway from UFC two sixty four.

1689
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,160
Speaker 9: I would imagine it has something to do with uh

1690
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 9: with Dustin and Connor, But if not, what do you

1691
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,120
Speaker 9: make of the pay per view this weekend?

1692
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 15: I love the car from top to bottom. You know,

1693
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 15: it was a really exciting. A lot of guys showed up,

1694
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 15: Chris Mattinia, who fought Sean O'Malley, obviously extremely tough ton

1695
01:16:59,120 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 15: of heart.

1696
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,200
Speaker 3: I can see why herb stopped it.

1697
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,519
Speaker 15: I mean, he takes all that damage, you'd think thirty

1698
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 15: more seconds let him go out on his shield. But

1699
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,719
Speaker 15: then again, we don't need his brain going to mush.

1700
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 15: Gilbert burns. Wow, I think people, I don't really understand

1701
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 15: why the hate. He did what he needed to do,

1702
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,240
Speaker 15: and he solved the puzzle against wonder Boy.

1703
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 3: No one's been able to do that.

1704
01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 15: He did it that, you know, and I think wonder

1705
01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 15: Boy is just a better five round.

1706
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 3: Fighter and starts too slow with the striking. Gilbert just

1707
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:23,720
Speaker 3: did what he needed to do.

1708
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 15: Boo all you want. The guy got the win over

1709
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 15: really hard wonder Boy there and look Dustin Connor. Dustin

1710
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:34,080
Speaker 15: looked great. It was a ten eight round in my book.

1711
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 15: You know, obviously it's a five round fight. Could Connor

1712
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:37,760
Speaker 15: have done something in the second round?

1713
01:17:37,800 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 6: Sure are?

1714
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 3: He's not known for going the distance.

1715
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:41,479
Speaker 15: The thing that bothered me the most, oh John, to

1716
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 15: be honest, all that Connor had to say sitting there

1717
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,280
Speaker 15: was Look, he got the best of me in that round.

1718
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 3: It's a five round fight. Who knows what could have happened.

1719
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 15: It's an injury it sucks. Hopefully I can see him

1720
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 15: again in the future instead all the threats, all the

1721
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 15: you know, the trash talk that's kind of went a

1722
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:58,280
Speaker 15: little too far in my book. And I also think

1723
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 15: that there's no real reason I don't need to see

1724
01:18:00,280 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 15: this fight again. I think Connor go get healthy, fight

1725
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 15: Nate Diaz, let Dustin fight Charles OLIVERA.

1726
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 9: Let's move on, and certainly it's not going to happen

1727
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 9: right now even if most of us or some of us,

1728
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,160
Speaker 9: I should say, don't feel like we got the closure

1729
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 9: we were looking for Ken flow real quick?

1730
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 8: What do you think?

1731
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,599
Speaker 9: And Ian, I want your thoughts on this efficiently if possible. Guys,

1732
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 9: what do you think would have happened at the start

1733
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 9: a round two? And Poory A McGregor, because prevailing wisdom

1734
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:25,720
Speaker 9: seems to think that Dustin would have just, you know,

1735
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 9: smashed him right out. I mean, I can't sit here

1736
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 9: and say that that would have been the case. Like,

1737
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 9: what do you think would have happened if we had

1738
01:18:30,439 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 9: started a round two?

1739
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 4: I mean, geez, there's so many other things that could

1740
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 4: have happened, But I think that he most likely would

1741
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 4: have tried to look for a takedown against Connor, That's

1742
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,880
Speaker 4: where he was getting his best work done.

1743
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 2: Can he win on the feet?

1744
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean obviously he did great in that first fight,

1745
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 4: but his easiest path to victory was on the ground.

1746
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:54,800
Speaker 4: He was landing some brutal ground and pound, and I

1747
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,960
Speaker 4: would assume that it would have been Connor trying to

1748
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 4: defend those takedowns. But yeah, I think Connor, you know,

1749
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 4: I think got a little emotional again and was getting

1750
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 4: caught with those Connor shots going backwards and again was

1751
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 4: it mixing it up as much as he as he

1752
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 4: should have. But again, absolutely, when you get a Connor,

1753
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:16,880
Speaker 4: when you get a striker like a Connor McGregor, he's

1754
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 4: extremely dynamic. He could have won that fight. I mean,

1755
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 4: no doubt about it. So it's really hard. It's really

1756
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 4: hard to tell how that fight would have gone.

1757
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:30,320
Speaker 9: You know, I don't know, Ian was dustin like minus

1758
01:19:30,360 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 9: one thousand at the beginning, I mean like at that

1759
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:34,240
Speaker 9: point on the live number.

1760
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 15: No, So it didn't even it didn't even get there

1761
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 15: because the round technically didn't end. You know, I will

1762
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 15: say this, John, you said something on the broadcast that

1763
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 15: I've been saying for two weeks talking about this fight

1764
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 15: doing breakdowns. Who did Connor bring in to Spa or

1765
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 15: train for this fight. I never see any of his

1766
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,760
Speaker 15: sparring partners. We could joke about Art Tam, we could

1767
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 15: joke about Dylan Downis, but seriously, Dustin has an American top team.

1768
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 15: Between the fifty five ers there the seventy seven years

1769
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,160
Speaker 15: and even some middleweights, He's got everything at his disposal, right,

1770
01:20:03,479 --> 01:20:05,599
Speaker 15: I don't know who Connor really trains with. And to

1771
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 15: answer your question about the second round doesn't start on

1772
01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 15: the feet, yes, but go back and watch it. Outside

1773
01:20:10,240 --> 01:20:13,120
Speaker 15: of those few kicks to Connor landon, Dustin was starting

1774
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 15: to land the combinations, and every time in the first

1775
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 15: fight when that happened, Connor backs up against the cage,

1776
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,120
Speaker 15: doesn't eat them very well, and for some reason, when

1777
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 15: he eats those, he starts to get a little tired.

1778
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,560
Speaker 15: I mean, for Connor to jump on a guilt a

1779
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 15: guillotine and hold it as long as he did, that's

1780
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 15: just taking more more juice out of the arms, you know,

1781
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 15: and that's what he needed, you know. I think just

1782
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,200
Speaker 15: the mystique of Connor's power didn't frighten Dustin. After he

1783
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 15: ate those shots in the first fight, he did eat

1784
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 15: a big left in the first round.

1785
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: Do I think Dustin would.

1786
01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 15: Have necessarily smashed him in the second. Look, it's a fight.

1787
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:43,720
Speaker 15: We don't know what could have happened. But to make

1788
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,800
Speaker 15: a long story short, I don't think the second round

1789
01:20:45,800 --> 01:20:47,759
Speaker 15: would have been too much different. Dustin would have eventually

1790
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 15: gotten the fight to the floor and who knows. But

1791
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 15: you know, I just don't like the narrative that. Even

1792
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 15: Kavanaugh saying that he liked what he saw to Connor

1793
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 15: in round one. I don't know how you could say

1794
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 15: that about your fighter, you know, Do I think he

1795
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 15: survived the round and pound? Yeah, but nothing there showed

1796
01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 15: me anything different in his game.

1797
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 3: Other than pulling on a glove. You know, so right,

1798
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 3: it happened.

1799
01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:11,000
Speaker 2: Look you saw that day.

1800
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 8: I didn't know, right, I didn't see it.

1801
01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 3: No, no, no, people are poting you didn't see it. Oh

1802
01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 3: it's that.

1803
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 8: No I'm saying I didn't see it live.

1804
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:22,400
Speaker 3: No, no, listen, I didn't see that either.

1805
01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,040
Speaker 15: But when people are posting the pictures, Dustin literally said,

1806
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 15: the guy was pulling on my.

1807
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 3: Glove and throwing it up.

1808
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 2: Kick.

1809
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 15: But I mean, that doesn't speak on Connor per se.

1810
01:21:29,439 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 15: It's just like you know, and I spoke to Kenny

1811
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 15: about this. What's Connor really doing working from the bottom.

1812
01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,599
Speaker 15: If I'm him, I'm drilling off my back constantly, try

1813
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 15: and stand up. He didn't try to stand up.

1814
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 9: Once, right, Yeah, all right, We got to make some selections, guys.

1815
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 9: UFC fight night Makashev versus moy Zes three predictions. We

1816
01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 9: will start with Matauge Gamrot minus two to fifty versus

1817
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:54,759
Speaker 9: Jeremy Stevens plus one ninety five thirty fourth UFC appearance

1818
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 9: for Jeremy Stevens, but first since UFC two forty nine,

1819
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 9: long time ago, when we sort of broke pandemic, so

1820
01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 9: to speak.

1821
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 8: May ninth, twenty twenty, he lost to Calvin Cat.

1822
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 9: That night he was to face Arnold All In a

1823
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 9: featherweight November of twenty twenty. Stevens forced to pull out

1824
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 9: due to injury. Then the Jaikar close fight was supposed

1825
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 9: to happen in April. Of course, he shoved him and

1826
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 9: that fight thereby went away, And now he draws the

1827
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 9: well rounded Polish fighter MATTAUJ Gamrot.

1828
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 8: Ian Parker, how do you see a planet?

1829
01:22:22,120 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 3: I like Gamrot here.

1830
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 15: I think his pressure and his wrestling is probably what

1831
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 15: we'll get it done. You know, Stevens is kind of

1832
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 15: that power puncher, go for the brawl and hope to

1833
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 15: win it all or lose it all. And you know, listen,

1834
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 15: Jeremy's exciting, but I think he loses this one.

1835
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 3: It might just be too much for him.

1836
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 9: Ken Fler, what do you think Jeremy Stevens back at

1837
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty five pounds here?

1838
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 4: You know, this is a tough fight, no, no question

1839
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 4: about it. I do think Jeremy has some decent wrestling

1840
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,000
Speaker 4: when he's able to kind of get at a lower

1841
01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 4: level stance and you know, wrestle up against Cage a

1842
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 4: little bit.

1843
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:57,960
Speaker 2: It's a tough matchup for him.

1844
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,680
Speaker 4: But I do think that if he's able to keep

1845
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:03,960
Speaker 4: it on the feet and lanesome shots and tire out Gamroon,

1846
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 4: he can win that fight. Gamrat's a favor for a reason,

1847
01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna go with Stevens. I think Stevens finds

1848
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,720
Speaker 4: a way to pull off a big upset here.

1849
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 9: Actually, all right, very interesting stuff there that brings us

1850
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,960
Speaker 9: to the comin event. Misha Tate minus won twenty five,

1851
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:22,000
Speaker 9: Marion Renault the even money underdog. We will need the

1852
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 9: round and the method of victory. Men Renault is how old,

1853
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 9: guys do we know?

1854
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 3: You got forty four?

1855
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 8: Forty four?

1856
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:29,759
Speaker 2: Wow?

1857
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 9: Age got lost four straight fights by unanimous decision. This

1858
01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 9: will be her retirement fight. It has already announced that

1859
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:41,320
Speaker 9: this will be Marion Renault's retirement fight. Misha Tate reciprocally

1860
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:43,599
Speaker 9: back for the first time since twenty sixteen.

1861
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 8: Andy and I thought it was sort of interesting.

1862
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 9: Right same year Misha Tate wins the belt, she retires

1863
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 9: because she bit off more than she could chew right

1864
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 9: three fights in twenty sixteen, takes the belt from Holly Holm,

1865
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 9: loses two in a row, and then sort of unceremoniously retires.

1866
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 9: Now she is back, she is in shape. What are

1867
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,439
Speaker 9: your thoughts on the short price for Misha Tate here

1868
01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,920
Speaker 9: as a slight favorite against Renault.

1869
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 15: I think you have to take Misha in this situation.

1870
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 15: I think she is a very smart fighter. I think she,

1871
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 15: especially with her first fight back, expect her to wrestle

1872
01:24:12,920 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 15: where she will be where she'll have the advantage there.

1873
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:16,720
Speaker 3: I think Renaud's tough, though.

1874
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 15: Listen, she always scraps, She's always game for a good fight,

1875
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 15: got good stand up.

1876
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 3: I think she has underrated jiu jitsu.

1877
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,240
Speaker 15: I just think Misha has fought the higher level competition.

1878
01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 15: You see the trading videos. She's in tremendous shape. She's

1879
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 15: really taking this seriously.

1880
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 3: Not that she ever.

1881
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,080
Speaker 15: Hasn't, but in a return like this, you really have to.

1882
01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:34,080
Speaker 15: And I think this is the right level of competition

1883
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:35,799
Speaker 15: to get your get back into the pond.

1884
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:37,799
Speaker 3: I think Misha wins here by decision.

1885
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 4: Kemfla, what do you have for us on the comain kid, Yeah, listen,

1886
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 4: I think that Mary and Renault is a good athlete.

1887
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 4: I think she has some good skills, but I do

1888
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 4: think that she's going against a Misia Tate that as

1889
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:57,040
Speaker 4: a little bit better everywhere, And you know, I think

1890
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 4: Misha's experience is definitely.

1891
01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 2: Going to be the difference. Like, like Ian said, I

1892
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 2: like I like Misha here. I wouldn't be surprised to

1893
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 2: see a.

1894
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 4: Tk O here. Actually let's go with let's go with

1895
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 4: second round TKO here.

1896
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 3: Misha Ken he's going for it today, He's going for it.

1897
01:25:16,040 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 9: I need the points for Kenny Florian. Yeah, I didn't

1898
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 9: even get to say his name on the broadcast. And

1899
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 9: we're going to talk to We're going to talk about

1900
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 9: Ilia on the way out today. But I didn't need

1901
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,839
Speaker 9: to say the name Kenny Florian My god.

1902
01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:28,639
Speaker 3: Kenny, I did.

1903
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 15: I did have a tweet that I thought was gonna

1904
01:25:30,439 --> 01:25:33,200
Speaker 15: make it on the broadcast. I wrote, Kenny Florian is

1905
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 15: in the corner of Ryan Hall tonight, but looks a

1906
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:36,280
Speaker 15: lot like Taporio.

1907
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: Let's see how this goes.

1908
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 3: And that didn't make it.

1909
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 15: But I wrote nineteen nineteen and that was it, and

1910
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 15: that got on the broadcast.

1911
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,320
Speaker 3: So what happened there? I tried to get you some love.

1912
01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 3: I am sorry, bro.

1913
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 4: Kenny Florid is persona non grad around UFC territory, so

1914
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 4: that's yeah.

1915
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:54,759
Speaker 8: Well, I was like, can I like lead the walk

1916
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 8: with this?

1917
01:25:55,680 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 10: Like?

1918
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:56,320
Speaker 6: You know?

1919
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 8: I you know, I was like, also in the corner

1920
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 8: three four or three time?

1921
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 10: UFC?

1922
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,680
Speaker 2: Huh get it? We get beeped out, it, we get

1923
01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 2: blurted out. Probably I don't exist.

1924
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 5: You think Venom would have put in a call like, hey,

1925
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,479
Speaker 5: can we can we mention our model here?

1926
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 8: I know you see this guy in the fucking fight kid?

1927
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:13,320
Speaker 8: All right?

1928
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 9: Main event boys Islam Makashev minus six twenty five, Thiago

1929
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 9: Moyses plus four twenty five. We've talked to times about

1930
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:26,519
Speaker 9: Makashev and the respect that he gets from Las Vegas,

1931
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 9: and rightfully so, and the fact that maybe he would

1932
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 9: be favored to be you know, ninety percent of the

1933
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 9: top fifteen right now. It's not just a seven fight

1934
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 9: winning streak, it's an impressive strength of schedule. And on

1935
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 9: the other side, same can be said for Moyses three

1936
01:26:39,200 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 9: fight winning streak against Michael Johnson, Bobby Green and Alexander Hernandez.

1937
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 9: I think, and if there's any coaching staff that can

1938
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 9: at least help prepare you uh to beat a guy

1939
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 9: like Islam, it's American top team. I don't know if

1940
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,439
Speaker 9: it'll be enough. What do you have for us IP

1941
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 9: on the main event?

1942
01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:56,679
Speaker 3: This is this is an interesting fight.

1943
01:26:56,920 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 15: You expect that Islam's going to put him on his back,

1944
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 15: and then you got a guy Inis s who is

1945
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 15: excellent on the ground. You know, I have a weird

1946
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:07,840
Speaker 15: feeling we're gonna see a either a straight kickboxing fight

1947
01:27:08,160 --> 01:27:11,520
Speaker 15: or we're gonna see a ground stalling, control type of situation.

1948
01:27:11,640 --> 01:27:13,920
Speaker 3: And either way, I do favorite Islam. I don't like it.

1949
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 15: It's minus six twenty five, you know, I think Moyses

1950
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 15: is better than that, honestly, I think. You know, we

1951
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,839
Speaker 15: look at the rankings sometimes and we get a little confused,

1952
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 15: and this is why I also don't understandhy Islam would

1953
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 15: take this fight. I don't think a win over Moses

1954
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Speaker 15: does anything for him in the eyes of the public,

1955
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 15: which is nothing against Moyses. Also, he's just not known

1956
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,400
Speaker 15: by the casual fan yet or the main public. He's

1957
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 15: an excellent, excellent fighter, and the thing about him that

1958
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 15: I'm so impressed about is how much his striking has improved.

1959
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Speaker 15: You know, if he could keep this fight actually standing

1960
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Speaker 15: or in a scramble against a cage, take Islam's back

1961
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Speaker 15: and just steal around or to that way and tire

1962
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Speaker 15: him out. Maybe, but it's until someone solves this puzzle.

1963
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Speaker 15: I'm gonna lean towards Islam, and I'm gonna say by decision,

1964
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Speaker 15: I do not think he gets the finish here.

1965
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Speaker 8: The upside for Islam is to compete, to stay active. Right,

1966
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Speaker 8: He's already fought and won once this year.

1967
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Speaker 9: So what do you think ken Flow about Islam makashev

1968
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 9: here the price and how it might go against Thiago Moyses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Listen, I think Ian's definitely doing his homework when

1970
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Speaker 4: he's not on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I think that's an excellent breakdown.

1972
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Speaker 4: I think that Thiago Moises has improved his striking.

1973
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: He really impressed me in his last fight.

1974
01:28:23,160 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 4: It was like night and day his striking, So he's

1975
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 4: definitely gaining more confidence and putting together some sweet combinations.

1976
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Speaker 2: You know, Mahaschef has some good hands, but I don't know.

1977
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Speaker 4: Moises could potentially post some problems on the feet there,

1978
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Speaker 4: but Mahaschef does his best work on the ground. I

1979
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 4: think Moisas has a very good ankle lock and some

1980
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 4: leg attacks that you got to watch out for. But Mahaschef, again,

1981
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:54,320
Speaker 4: coming from that sambo background, you'd think he'd be best prepared.

1982
01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 4: Out of all the submissions, he should be best prepared

1983
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Speaker 4: for the leg lock game. We shall see, but I

1984
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 4: think Mahaschef is going to be able to take down

1985
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:05,479
Speaker 4: Moys says. I think he'll be able to get some

1986
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:10,560
Speaker 4: good positions like from half guard and maybe some takedowns

1987
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Speaker 4: into side control and work some ground and pound where

1988
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 4: he can slowly grind him out and win rounds little

1989
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Speaker 4: by little. I could definitely see him winning by decision,

1990
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Speaker 4: but I think Mahaschef gets a TKO win in round three.

1991
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Speaker 9: Oh, we'll see how the main event plays out. That

1992
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 9: is why I'm staying in Las Vegas. And I did

1993
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Speaker 9: see Jorge mosfeed All.

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Speaker 2: Right, let's go with round four Round four D for.

1995
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Speaker 8: The record, Casey, thank you. I hope you're paying attention.

1996
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Speaker 9: I talked to Jorge Mosfital last week and he said,

1997
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 9: you know, he's seen a lot of Brazilian fighters over

1998
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 9: the years come to American Top Team and sometimes they

1999
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 9: sort of get chewed up and spit out and they

2000
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 9: just can't make it as a pro MMA fighter. You know,

2001
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:53,599
Speaker 9: Moyses started one and two in the UFC some early university.

2002
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 9: He's still only twenty six years old. But Mosfidal's really

2003
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:58,719
Speaker 9: been impressed with this kid, right, his appetite for learning

2004
01:29:58,760 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 9: and just his ability to sustain in a really hard

2005
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 9: environment at American Top Team. So we'll see how it

2006
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,799
Speaker 9: goes from moys S. If you want more from Ian Parker,

2007
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,919
Speaker 9: who doesn't. Honestly, if you're not following this guy selections

2008
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 9: at this point in time, then then maybe you just

2009
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,200
Speaker 9: don't like money Edian Parker.

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Speaker 6: M m.

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Speaker 8: Hey, thanks for the time and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 8: next week. My man.

2013
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Speaker 3: You got guys appreciate it, all.

2014
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Speaker 8: Right, Ian Parker with us for the main event challenge.

2015
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 8: All right.

2016
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:31,280
Speaker 9: So Ryan Hall, no longer undefeated in the UFC Ken Flow,

2017
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 9: obviously goes down to the now eleven to no Ilia Topurlia.

2018
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 9: What were your thoughts on on that fight and on

2019
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,920
Speaker 9: Ilia's performance against Ryan.

2020
01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,360
Speaker 4: You know, I thought Ilia, you know, fought a fight

2021
01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 4: that was kind of that best suited him. You know,

2022
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 4: I think that you know, there was a little bit

2023
01:30:50,120 --> 01:30:51,840
Speaker 4: of him saying, you know, he wasn't afraid to go

2024
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 4: to the ground with him, but he went he went

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01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 4: to the ground on his terms.

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Speaker 2: When he when he had his spot to land some shots,

2027
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Speaker 2: he did and he did it at the right time.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think, uh, a few mistakes were made

2029
01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 4: on Ryan Hall's part, and you know, I know that

2030
01:31:09,840 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 4: Ryan will be back and certainly learned from that.

2031
01:31:12,280 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 2: That's what he does best.

2032
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 4: To Puria is a fantastic fighter, very dangerous guy, and

2033
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 4: I thought the execution of his game plan was was

2034
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 4: quite good. And I think he's a guy that will

2035
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:27,479
Speaker 4: most likely go very far in his career.

2036
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 9: Well, everybody was excited to see Ken Flow our fine

2037
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:31,840
Speaker 9: cut man, Scott Reim.

2038
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 8: I know you go way back with him.

2039
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 9: It's like, Scott, all right, I'll fucking wink at you, Okay,

2040
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:38,240
Speaker 9: so you stop staring at me, dab right. See, I'm

2041
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:39,800
Speaker 9: watching the whole thing, So you picking up on all

2042
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,400
Speaker 9: those little bit till Scotty rim just death stare and

2043
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,800
Speaker 9: I love Scotty right through. Uh gives him a little

2044
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 9: subtle wink right there. But well, it was great to

2045
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 9: see you, and that puts a bow on our UFC

2046
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 9: two sixty four A recap thanks to our new sponsor, Candidips.

2047
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 9: Don't forget Anna florianpodcast dot com as your destination if

2048
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Speaker 9: you want links to the merchandise to the video podcast.

2049
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,360
Speaker 9: We are also up in audio only form if you

2050
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:08,799
Speaker 9: so choose. Got anything planned on flow Tube? Any idea

2051
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,720
Speaker 9: when your next video might be for those of us

2052
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 9: that want to learn and then forget everything that we watch, Yeah,

2053
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 9: thank you buddy.

2054
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Speaker 2: Hopefully the next week or two.

2055
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,280
Speaker 4: But what I'm most excited about, I guess in the

2056
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 4: next month or so. I filmed an instructional from basically

2057
01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 4: all the different positions back in November that I'm hoping

2058
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:29,919
Speaker 4: to release in the next month or two.

2059
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 2: And yeah, I'm excited.

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01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 4: Basically, I just try to kind of have that same

2061
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,280
Speaker 4: format as my YouTube page, where I'm teaching conceptually how

2062
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 4: to approach the game, and I think it's a good

2063
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 4: both a starting point for people who are just getting

2064
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,080
Speaker 4: into the sport or trying to learn jiu jitsu. It's

2065
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 4: great for intermediate people and great ema for coaches who

2066
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 4: want to look at the game in a different way

2067
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 4: and understand how it works.

2068
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 2: Not just you know, here a bunch of techniques.

2069
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 4: You can get techniques anywhere, but understanding how grappling works

2070
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,800
Speaker 4: and how how you can best you know, format your

2071
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 4: techniques within uh, you know, a conceptual framework is what

2072
01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:09,000
Speaker 4: I'm trying to do and try to break it down

2073
01:33:09,000 --> 01:33:11,799
Speaker 4: as simply as possible for people. So I'm really excited

2074
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 4: about that coming up in the next couple of months.

2075
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:19,080
Speaker 9: I never thought I would get the itch to roll again.

2076
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 9: I truly thought I was done. Okay, I'm not trying

2077
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 9: to be funny, right. I saw Pahoopa this weekend and

2078
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 9: I'm I'm starting to get the itch back a little bit, right,

2079
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:31,760
Speaker 9: And I'm sure as soon as I resume.

2080
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 8: It will go away. Very quickly. But he bought me

2081
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,280
Speaker 8: these two dollarer mats.

2082
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 9: He didn't buy them, right, but yeah, so he's got

2083
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,320
Speaker 9: two dollarer mats for me, right to do one side

2084
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:40,719
Speaker 9: of my garage and then the bottom.

2085
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 8: Right.

2086
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, So I just don't know if I'm ready to

2087
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,520
Speaker 9: like go all in with the fucking mats in the garage.

2088
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 9: Like in Florida, it's tough with the cars. Like not

2089
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:50,880
Speaker 9: that I have this super nice car, but you leave

2090
01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,160
Speaker 9: a car outside all year round, it just gets torch

2091
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 9: with the sun. Yeah, but I'm starting to get the

2092
01:33:56,280 --> 01:33:57,400
Speaker 9: itch a little bit, you know.

2093
01:33:58,120 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 2: Can we send you my instructional? Is this ready? Can

2094
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:02,719
Speaker 2: we get ready?

2095
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:07,680
Speaker 9: I don't get like fucking clock joke, fucking Jesus, how

2096
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 9: no gee?

2097
01:34:08,560 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 8: What do you think I got that?

2098
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 4: Actually the majority of my stuff is no gee. I

2099
01:34:12,160 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 4: have one little bonus instruction that I'm doing, but it's

2100
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 4: all it actually is all no geek. I prefer no

2101
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:18,519
Speaker 4: ge myself.

2102
01:34:18,560 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 2: I'm no gee guy.

2103
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 9: So I get anxiety just tying the belt, so I

2104
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 9: have hope. Was like, no, that's wrong, and I'm like, hey, man,

2105
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 9: like can we you just like can we go in

2106
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 9: the back and you do it?

2107
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:33,840
Speaker 8: For me Jesus.

2108
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,360
Speaker 5: At least I showed up.

2109
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:37,599
Speaker 2: You know that's great?

2110
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 9: All right, that's gonna do it for today. Thanks to

2111
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Speaker 9: our guest long Ago and Parker. Thanks to our executive producer,

2112
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 9: Jack of all Trades, Cody Merrow.

2113
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:45,360
Speaker 8: Uh.

2114
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 9: We will be back next Monday to preview a fight

2115
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,759
Speaker 9: that I have long been looking forward to. Corey Sandhagan, TJ.

2116
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,799
Speaker 9: Dillashaw under the Lights July twenty fourth. Thanks to everybody

2117
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,880
Speaker 9: for all their support of the show of the broadcast,

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01:34:58,160 --> 01:35:01,560
Speaker 9: Uh means a lot. Be right here with that for

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01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:03,639
Speaker 9: Kemp John and thanks for watch and tell your friends

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Speaker 9: subscribe really helps us.

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Speaker 8: Ut until next week, don't text and drive and we

2122
01:35:08,800 --> 01:35:10,960
Speaker 8: can't wait to be back in your life next Monday.

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Speaker 8: You'll fuck.

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Speaker 13: I'm Royal Oaks.

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Speaker 2: Next time.

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Speaker 13: On Too Many Lawyers, we take on a couple of

2127
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Speaker 13: villains to sort out whether bad stuff is also illegal stuff.

2128
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Speaker 13: George Santos want to seek in Congress by lying to voters,

2129
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Speaker 13: but is that a crime? And Kanye West made it

2130
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 13: clear he hates Jews in England, he'd go to jail

2131
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Speaker 13: for that here in America? Did he commit a hate crime?

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