1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: If it sounds a bit different on my end, it 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:17,200 Speaker 1: is because I am in Asheville, North Carolina, broadcasting from 5 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: five to seventy AM WWNC. We're going to tell you 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: the story of this station. During the course of today's broadcast. 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: They were not ever off air in the midst of 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: one of the biggest disasters relating to flooding and hurricanes 9 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: in the history of the United States, the deadliest hurricane 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,680 Speaker 1: since Katrina. I flew in this morning on a helicopter 11 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: from Tennessee over the mountains. Buck, I have been over 12 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: all of these different communities looking at what they are 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: dealing with. Flew over I forty. We are sharing videos. 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: You can go look at them yourself. I wanted to 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: see it for myself. We are raped money tonight in Knoxville, Tennessee, 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: at the Yehaw Brewery, and certainly we want to be 17 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: talking to as many people in western North Carolina and 18 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: eastern Tennessee as is possible with so many people still recovering. 19 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 1: It's stunning, Buck, It's stunning to see from the air. 20 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: The scope of the disaster in this area, it is 21 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: unbelievable to me really just kind of to characterize it 22 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: and simplify it in one thing. I mean I forty 23 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: in North Carolina. I cannot imagine that they are going 24 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: to be able to get it open for a year 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: or more. There are and I shared videos from the 26 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: helicopters so that many of you can see just how devastating, 27 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: for instance, just that small segment of the storm was. 28 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: There are parts of I forty. If you've ever driven 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: through gone from Tennessee into North Carolina going east, there 30 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: are parts of I forty where the eastern side of 31 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: the interstate doesn't exist anymore. It has been washed away. 32 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: There is no underlying support at all for the land there. 33 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: It's got to be I can't imagine that they're gonna 34 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: be able to do this in less than a year. 35 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: And it may be to the point where at some 36 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: aspects of the interstate they even have one lane going 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: one way and one lane going the other way. My 38 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: point on using that as an example here, Buck is 39 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: this is going to be an incredibly intensive rebuild, and 40 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: I want to be honest with what I saw. I 41 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: did not see some massive amount of government military support 42 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: from FEMA from the air based on all the destroyed 43 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: regions that I saw. Now, I don't want to be 44 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: somebody who's pretending that they are an expert on the 45 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: federal government's response, but just for what I saw and 46 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: over all these devastated communities. Again, you can see the 47 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: videos that we have posted. I want to bring attention 48 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: to what's going on in this region of the people 49 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: who are still struggling here. But the radio station where 50 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: I'm broadcasting from, the only reason they are up right 51 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: now with this show is Starlink because of Elon Musk 52 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: So thank you Elon. They still don't have running water 53 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: at the radio station. Much of Ashville does not have 54 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: running water. Is talking to the guys at at one o'clock, 55 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: We're going to have somebody on the ground here to talk. 56 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: They have the kids in school is a long way 57 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: from being able to open back up here because they 58 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: can't get water in the schools, they can't produce meals. 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: There are people struggling in a massive way still that 60 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: do not have I don't think the resources and support 61 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: that our nation should be giving them. So I want 62 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: to bring attention that's why I'm here. I know there's 63 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: a lot of people doing incredible work, a lot of 64 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: people extending their hands not from the government, that are 65 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: working like crazy. The helicopter pilot I had buck said 66 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: that the place where they work has been filling up 67 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: constantly five hundred pounds of material and flying it into 68 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: air drop regions, churches, community centers, so many different places 69 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: to try to get people what they need. He said. 70 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: One of the things they need now is it starting 71 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: to get cold here, and it was in the forties 72 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: this morning, and people don't have the ability to heat 73 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,679 Speaker 1: their homes, so portable electric heaters, all these different things 74 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: that they are bringing in. It's going to be a long, 75 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: difficult cold winter now based on this timing. And again, 76 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure that people are aware 77 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: there is a massive amount that still needs to be 78 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: done here. 79 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: I spoke to a contact of mine last night, Clay, 80 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 2: about this. I knew you would be there and I 81 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: wanted to get his perspective. He's involved in some of 82 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 2: these air rescues and going out in helicopters. One thing 83 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 2: that he said to me, first off, it's interesting the 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: people who are doing the work increasingly don't want criticize FEMA, 85 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 2: not because they don't think that FEMA should be criticized, 86 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: but because they're hope and more federal resources are going 87 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 2: to be deployed and used. Right, So it's a little 88 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: bit of a catch twenty two. It's a it's a 89 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: difficult moment for some of the apparently local law enforcement 90 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: and you know neighbors. What he said to me, I'll 91 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 2: just sort of quote this anonymously is that rednecks with 92 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: chainsaws have saved more lives than the federal government and 93 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: it isn't even close. 94 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: That's what he doesn't surprise me at all, having grown 95 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: up in this area, that the rednecks with chainsaws would 96 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: be way better than the Biden administration at helping people. 97 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 3: So that's been the case so far. There. 98 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: Again, the federal government has vast resources, so the hope 99 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 2: is that you know, you want it's like they want 100 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: to encourage the federal resources to be better utilized. 101 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: So they got to say, hey, guys, you got. 102 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 1: To do better. 103 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 2: But they don't also want to be in a position 104 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: where there is antaganism, because really just about saving and 105 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 2: helping people, right, So, you know, getting that ground truth 106 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: out it's a little bit of a of a there's 107 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 2: some delicate aspects to it right now for the people 108 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 2: on the front lines. That was I thought that was 109 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: interesting perspective, and you're seeing it now and you saw 110 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: from the air what an absolute mess all this is. 111 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:24,119 Speaker 2: I also think it's very clear that because the because 112 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: the Biden administration is in charge of the federal government, 113 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: and because of the demographics of the areas that are 114 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: most affected, the national news media is completely uninterested, disinterested, 115 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: take your pick in what is going on here. I mean, 116 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 2: you go at the you know, you go at the 117 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: front page of a lot of news sites right now 118 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 2: that are pro Kamala or pro Democrat in this election, 119 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 2: and they might have some minor news item on what's 120 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 2: going on in Helene, but much more about the Tim 121 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 2: Wall's manliness tour and. 122 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: Which we'll talk about because that's gonna be fun. 123 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: And Kamala Harris doing just fine, even though I ever 124 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: knows she's not doing well at all the hurricane. The 125 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: hurricane is politicized through the news coverage and also the 126 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: lack of interest from the coastal media elite. So you're 127 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: seeing it firsthand. 128 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: I expected Buck based on the way that people had 129 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: been covering it. Now to see massive amounts of governmental 130 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: resources from the air being deployed, I didn't see that, 131 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: And I saw a destruction that is mind boggling to 132 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: think about in terms of how long it's going to 133 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: take to have some of these communities recover. We're not 134 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: talking about months, We're talking about years of rebuild all 135 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: through these areas. And again, I just didn't see that 136 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: many government resources. I mean, when you come through Ashville 137 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: in the air buck, there are still massive cars just 138 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,679 Speaker 1: in the river that have been swept away, washed away. 139 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean when you see some of these dams. First 140 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: of all, the dams got overtopped, that is, the water 141 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: was coming right over the top of the dams, and 142 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: many different of these regions there is massive amount of 143 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: debris that I don't even know how they're going to 144 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: be able to get all of that debris out, the 145 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: likes of which I've never seen before. And again, we're 146 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 1: gonna be posting videos that I want you guys to 147 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: be able to see because frankly, I haven't seen a 148 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 1: lot of these videos. I haven't seen a lot of 149 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 1: people up in the air. The other thing is I 150 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: thought there would be a tremendous amount of helicopter traffic 151 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: because to a large extent, the airport is not usable 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: in Asheville and many of these roads and bridges are 153 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 1: washed out. Our helicopter pilot said it had been very 154 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: busy with the number of helicopters. I saw four we 155 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: flew over all these communities. I think I saw four 156 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: or five total helicopter in the hour and a half 157 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: two hours that we were in the air coming in 158 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: this direction to be able to see everything. So it's 159 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: not going to be FEMA or the United States government 160 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: based on what I saw that gets this area back 161 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: up and running. It's going to be a lot of 162 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: rednecks to your point, Buck with chainsaws, a lot of 163 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: good guys and gals that live in this area and 164 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: are coming in from other regions doing their hardest work 165 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: to try to get all of these people back up 166 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: on their feet. And let me be clear too, it's 167 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: a beautiful region and this is typically Buck when a 168 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: lot of people flood into this area probably a poor 169 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 1: choice of words there on flood, but so many people 170 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: come in and to see the leaves changing, right, I mean, 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: so there's a huge industry here that basically is not 172 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: going to be able to make the money that it 173 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: usually does. And a lot of people use the money 174 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: that they make during the leaf changing season to get 175 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: them through the winter and be able to take care 176 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: of their families. So it's not just the natural destruction, 177 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: it's that the tourism industry that generally fuels much of 178 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: this area is not going to be able to uh 179 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: to have its normal actions, which is going to put 180 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: its own strain on. But remember Kamala is going to 181 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: give people seven hundred and fifty dollars. 182 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. 183 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: Look, I have in laws with a They have a 184 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: vacation rental property in Lake Lore, which is the downtown 185 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: is gone. So you can imagine there's not going to 186 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 2: be the same kind of ability to, to your point, 187 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: monetize and have that economy going. It's a tourism based economy, 188 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: and when you have no roads and no water and 189 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 2: all the disaster stuff that we have still what we're 190 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: still seeing, that's a very difficult situation economically for everyone there. 191 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 2: I just would point out if you're wondering who is 192 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: getting the blame for any frustration over the Hellene recovery efforts. 193 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: MSNBC coming in coming in hot here, Clay, this is 194 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: the main story on the website right now. I'm not going, look, 195 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 2: this is the biggest story. Trump thinks Americans have forgotten 196 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: how bad his hurricane relief efforts were. So I just 197 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 2: when people are saying things like don't politicize it, what 198 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 2: they're actually saying is shut up. We know we're doing 199 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: a bad job. But Donald Trump is hitler and nothing 200 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 2: else matters. I mean, that's what the new that's where 201 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: the news media is that wants Kamla to win. We're 202 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: a few weeks away from election day, and I don't 203 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: think that there's if they had I don't think there's 204 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: any way for them to make a clear case that 205 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: what they are doing is effective and has been a 206 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: display of the competency of the federal government at this level. 207 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: And just like again talking to this contact who's doing 208 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 2: some of the rescues there, why would the federal government 209 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: suddenly be good at this look good? The look at 210 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 2: the federal government's been like the last four years. What 211 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: in what world would it be normal for us to say, 212 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: you know what, this Biden team, they've really got their 213 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: act together. Efficiency, mission focus, no politics. We would have 214 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 2: to be living in an alternate universe for that to 215 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 2: be true. 216 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: No doubt. And let me just say they say they 217 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: don't want to make anything political. Well, we've got an 218 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: election in three weeks, and based on what I saw, 219 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: there are going to be tens of thousands. I would 220 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 1: bet fewer people who are able to vote in western 221 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: North Carolina than would have voted if this storm hadn't happened, 222 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: and or if there had been a fully robust government 223 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: response able to get people back on their feet as 224 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 1: fast as they possibly could. And this is an overwhelming 225 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: Trump voting region. The population in western North Carolina in 226 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: all of these impacted counties. Yes, Ashville has a little 227 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: blue dot, but overwhelmingly if you look at the number 228 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: of voters, Trump is being impacted more significantly in terms 229 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: of votes. You heard David Axelrod talk about it. This 230 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: is a real deal. And in a state that was 231 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: decided by seventy thousand votes. If you live in another 232 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: part of North Carolina and you are listening to us 233 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: right now, you need to show up and vote because 234 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people here I don't think are going 235 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: to be able to buck. A lot of people got 236 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 1: relocated they're living in a different location than they otherwise would, 237 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: Their homes are completely lost, and voting is the last 238 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: thing on their minds, which you can well understand given 239 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: how much of a devastated region this is. And I 240 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: just think it's going to be consequential in terms of 241 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: the overall outcome in North Carolina. And I think you 242 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: would have to be wearing blinders not to recognize that. 243 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: And does it make you ask the question if these 244 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: were die hard Kamala Harris and Joe Biden supporters, would 245 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: the federal government response have been better, faster, and more productive. Yeah, 246 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: I think it would have been. I have that opinion 247 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: now having flown in and seen this. 248 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 2: That's why seeing with your own eyes is so important. 249 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: And this is a part of the conversation Clay that 250 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 2: I have to say. 251 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's tough to see what you're seeing, and. 252 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 2: Your heart goes out to all the people that are affected. 253 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: But we need ground truth on this issue because we 254 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: do haven't. First of all, we need to get people 255 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 2: the help that they need, and that can only happen 256 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: with public attention on the impact right and with the 257 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: media disinterested for political and other reasons. By the way, 258 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 2: but mostly political reasons. There isn't the focus on this issue. 259 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 2: And then there's also the accountability of we have an 260 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: election coming up, the people in charge are incompetent right now. 261 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 3: Let's get a better regime. Let's get a better government. 262 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: No doubt. I'm in North Carolina right now, as you 263 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: guys can hear and will continue to discuss. 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I am 294 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: in Asheville, North Carolina. Flew in here this morning on 295 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: a helicopter. Really difficult to get into Ashville and many 296 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: of the surrounding communities if you are basically trying to 297 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: travel in any way. We're gonna get more information about 298 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: how crazy it has been over the past couple of weeks. 299 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: We bring into the studio here with me in Ashville, 300 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: Mark Starling six to nine AM Eastern morning show host 301 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: here on five seventy am WWNC, also news director and Mark, 302 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: I just want to start with this, when did you 303 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: become aware that this was going to be a major disaster? 304 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: And tell people how many days in a row you 305 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: spent this air. This station never went off air. You 306 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: guys have continued to communicate with everybody. What should they 307 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: know about your experience in the early days of this 308 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: hurricane disaster. 309 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 4: So we kind of had an idea. On Wednesday, we 310 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 4: were talking to our meteorologist from the Weather Channel and 311 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 4: he said, we've been working with him for ten years. 312 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 4: In that ten years, i've heard him use the word 313 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 4: catastrophic maybe once. He used it twice in the same segment, 314 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 4: and I knew right then, like this is not a 315 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: guy who's hyperbolic. We were dealing with something different. Thursday, 316 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: we came up with a game plan. My producer, Tank Spencer, 317 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 4: He and I were like, Okay, we're going to stay 318 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 4: at the station Thursday night, probably going to be able 319 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 4: to go home Friday night. Storm is going to go past. 320 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 4: I covered hurricanes for most of the fifteen years of 321 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 4: the start of my career. Right about Thursday evening, we 322 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 4: started to realize when things were already flooding and the 323 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 4: storm hadn't gotten here, we knew we were in bad shape. 324 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 4: We had six inches of rain prior to this storm, 325 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 4: even coming close to North Carolina, which meant everything was 326 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 4: already saturated. It wasn't gonna take much to blow trees over. 327 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 4: So we stayed Thursday night. We got up Friday morning 328 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: and did the morning show like we normally do, kind 329 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 4: of went through the day, and it was getting progressively 330 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: worse and worse, and obviously, you know, by Friday night 331 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 4: it was in full swing, so we had lost We 332 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 4: never lost power, I'm sorry we lost power. We never 333 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 4: went off the air. We lost internet on Saturday at 334 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 4: two thirty six pm, right on the nose. I remember 335 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,439 Speaker 4: looking at the clock and I remember seeing our phones 336 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: go down, and so we had no communication with the 337 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 4: outside world. We had no way to get any sort 338 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 4: of new information. We had no way to use our phones, 339 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,920 Speaker 4: we had no cell service. A buddy of mine happened 340 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 4: to be listening over in West Dashville and heard us say, listen, folks, 341 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 4: we're at a We're at a disadvantage here. We don't 342 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 4: have any information, we can't take your phone calls. We're 343 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 4: going to go back to regular program and try to 344 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 4: gather some information. He actually ended up hiking up here. 345 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 4: He drove as close as he could, hiked in with 346 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 4: a Ham radio had already talked to the Ham radio 347 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 4: network around here and said, hey, look Mark, Mark is 348 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 4: going to key up the mic. He's going to try 349 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 4: to get all the information he can from you guys, 350 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 4: and then he's going to go back on the air 351 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 4: and he and Tank are going to relay to everybody 352 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 4: that's listening. And that's how we operated for about twelve 353 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 4: to fourteen hours. We heard a noise out in the 354 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 4: hallway and we were on a break, and we stuck 355 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 4: our heads out there, and here are the most beautiful 356 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 4: sight I've ever seen. Was to iHeartRadio engineers with a 357 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: starlink strapped to their back coming down the hallway, and 358 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 4: I knew at that point we were okay. 359 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: So ewan starlink is the reason you were able to 360 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: get back on the internet. 361 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 4: Correct? Correct? So we got back on the internet Saturday night, 362 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,479 Speaker 4: and we basically stayed round the clock taking phone calls, 363 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: listening to. I mean, people were scared. No one ever 364 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 4: thought a hurricane would come to western North Carolina, and 365 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 4: Tank and I kind of sat and talked about it, 366 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 4: and we were like, look, it's going to be our 367 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 4: job to help these people get through this hurricane. The 368 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 4: noises you're gonna hear in the middle of the night 369 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 4: are going to scare the crap out of you. It's 370 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 4: you're not gonna know what's going on because you can't 371 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,439 Speaker 4: see anything, and when you wake up tomorrow morning, it 372 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 4: could be even a scarier site when you look outside. 373 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 4: And so we were really trying to just kind of 374 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: prep people for this and like really walk them through 375 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 4: step by step. It's you know, and we kept saying, look, 376 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 4: it's okay to not be okay, this is a super 377 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 4: scary time. The phone calls started coming in and they 378 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: started getting scarier and scarier and scarier. We took a 379 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 4: call from a gentleman who was up on the second 380 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 4: floor of his house with his wife and their seven 381 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 4: year old grandson. He called and we were chatting with him, 382 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: and this was literally like just minutes before everything kind 383 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 4: of went chaotic, and he says, oh, you know, we're 384 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 4: gonna be okay, we're we've had flooding here before. They 385 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 4: weren't okay. They didn't make it, and it evolved you on. 386 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 4: They called us on the air and they he talked 387 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 4: to us and he said, you know, I've been meeting 388 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 4: to clean this place out. I wanted to kind of downsize. 389 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 4: He's like, it looks like that's going to be taking 390 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 4: care of for me. And within hours they were gone. 391 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 4: So we realized then that we had to have a connection, 392 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 4: and so we decided that hey, listen, if you know 393 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 4: someone that's missing, call us here at the radio station, 394 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 4: give us their name, an address, and phone number, and 395 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 4: we will like, we're going to try to crowdsource wellness checks. 396 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 4: So we started doing that and we get a call 397 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: from this guy's name is Chris Henderson and he is 398 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 4: an absolute angel, and he said, listen, I'm out here 399 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 4: doing wellness checks. What if we team up together and 400 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 4: you start taking the names of the addresses, you send 401 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 4: them to me and I'll send my team out there. 402 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: So we did, and as of right now, I think 403 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 4: we are at like one hundred and forty eight families 404 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 4: that have been reunited with their loved ones. I think 405 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 4: it was like four hundred and twenty eight people or 406 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 4: something like that. And then we started the iHeartRadio Ashville 407 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 4: Chainsaw Gang, and we've got a group of chainsaw cutters 408 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 4: and they literally just go and take houses or trees 409 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: off people's houses and they don't charge them. This is 410 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 4: all stuff that we were able to crowdsource through the 411 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 4: power of radio. And I think that for us is 412 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 4: really what the story is here. When the TV could 413 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: didn't do it, the newspaper couldn't do it, there was 414 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: nothing online. The only thing left was AMFM radio. All 415 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 4: seven stations stayed on the air simulcasted. When our team 416 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 4: was able to get into the building, the cavalry had 417 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 4: arrived and we went. We were walled the wall. I 418 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 4: actually got to sleep at home for the first time 419 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 4: last night. 420 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: You were sleeping here at the station. 421 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 4: I've been here. I was at the station for fourteen days, 422 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 4: never went home. My wife she wasn't going to evacuate, 423 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 4: and needs say, I wasn't too happy about that. Got 424 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 4: a call on Friday morning and she said, you know what, 425 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: We've had to evacuate. We're at a gas station. I've 426 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 4: got all four dogs and our son Eli. We're just 427 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 4: going to have to ride it out here. There are 428 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 4: actually waves coming cresting over the top of the overpass 429 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 4: down on the Highway nine in Black Mountain, which is 430 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 4: where we live, and it was one of the hardest 431 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 4: hit areas. And I didn't hear from her for forty 432 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 4: eight hours. And when she did call, we were on 433 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 4: the air and she had actually gone to a Black 434 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 4: Mountain town hall meeting that they had. She called in 435 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 4: and my producer Tank, he puts their colors name up 436 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: on the screen and I looked over and I thought, 437 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 4: what is it? Wait, this can't be. She's the only 438 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 4: Brandy I know that spells it with too ease at 439 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 4: the end. And from pretty much that point on, it 440 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 4: was it was waterworks. It was just I was just 441 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 4: so happy to know that they were okay. I have 442 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 4: not seen them since the Wednesday. 443 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 5: Uh. 444 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 4: They were evacuated down the sisters house with our four 445 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: dogs and they're doing great. They you know, it just 446 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 4: we made it. We made a lot better than a 447 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 4: lot of folks did. I mean, we took some damage 448 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 4: to our home, but nothing in comparison to what some 449 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: of these folks have lost. 450 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: Mark. 451 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: Appreciate you being with us and giving us first of all, 452 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 2: that this is just this incredible, uh story about what 453 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,719 Speaker 2: you and the station have been through and also been 454 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 2: able to accomplish over the last two weeks. What is 455 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 2: the what are the imminent needs right now? I mean, 456 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 2: what what is the focus of these rescue and recovery 457 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: now really, I guess more recovery efforts currently going forward, 458 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 2: Like what has to happen, what needs need to be met, 459 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 2: what's on the ground doing at all of that? 460 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: So you know, as far as like supplies that have 461 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 4: that have come in, I mean, it has just been 462 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 4: it has been an American outpouring. It's incredible to see 463 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 4: the amount of supplies that we have, and right now 464 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 4: we're really good on supplies. But this is not a 465 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 4: short term situation. Our water system was decimated by about 466 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 4: eighty five percent of it. I think there's eighteen hundred 467 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 4: miles of waterline in Ashville. Eighty five percent of it's gone. 468 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 4: So what we're really you know, what we're really hoping 469 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 4: for is that we can get the water back online 470 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 4: as fast as possible. They're measuring that time off out 471 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 4: of water in weeks and not days. Power is back on. 472 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 4: There's still about a thirty thousand people in Bunkham County, 473 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 4: which is where we are, that is that that are 474 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 4: still without power. It's getting better and better every day. 475 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 4: But you know, I think what we're worried about in 476 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 4: the long term is we've got cooler to they're moving in, 477 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,439 Speaker 4: and we've got people who used to have homes that 478 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 4: don't have homes. And really, you know, I think the 479 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 4: big thing is is all of these groups that are 480 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 4: on the ground in here, whether they are doing you know, 481 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 4: whether they're doing recovery work or whether they're doing supply work. 482 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 4: We work with a group called Heartswodthands dot org. It's 483 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 4: a local charity. They're based out of Swannanoah, which was 484 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 4: one of the most devastated areas, and strangely, every single 485 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 4: thing around their warehouse was destroyed, but their warehouse wasn't touched. 486 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 4: They have two functions. They feed all of our first 487 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: responders hot meals every day, and then they also package 488 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 4: food boxes for pickup and delivery for folks who are 489 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 4: in need in the community. You know, usually hearts with hands. 490 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 4: They're the ones that are loading up the trailers and 491 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 4: taken them to Florida or somewhere else. I don't think 492 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 4: anybody ever thought it was going to happen here. And 493 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 4: you know, this storm was so different because of the terrain. 494 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 4: You know, a storm hits Florida, you got miles of 495 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 4: beachline for the water to reced to. There's nowhere for 496 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 4: the water to recede to here. So it was literally 497 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 4: like a thirty five football of water and debris that 498 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 4: came down the French Broad River and just decimated everything 499 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 4: in its path. I mean, there are there are towns 500 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 4: that used to be here that don't exist anymore. And 501 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 4: it's you know, as someone who covered hurricanes their entire 502 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 4: career living in Florida, I've never been through anything like 503 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:21,239 Speaker 4: this before. I mean, the just the fury that the 504 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 4: water has brought to western North Carolina is just incredible. 505 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: I think this is important. I was just talking out 506 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 1: front with a state trooper who came by. We're talking 507 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: with Mark Starling, hosts six to nine am Eastern morning 508 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: shows on this incredible story here at five seventy am 509 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: ww NC. I forty many things. I asked out front, 510 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: how long is this gonna take? He said, this is 511 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: gonna take years to rebuild, So for people out there 512 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: who haven't done anything yet. Maybe they haven't recognized the 513 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: severity of this. There's gonna be a need for help 514 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: here four months and months, if not years. 515 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 4: I mean, we're a tourism based economy. There's only one 516 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 4: thing to see here right now, and that's destruction. You know, 517 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,679 Speaker 4: hotels are not able to rent hotel rooms because you 518 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: can't run a hotel room without running water. So that 519 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 4: is pretty much just don't have running water still at 520 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 4: the radius, that's right. Yeah, we've been without water since 521 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: I believe it was Friday is when we lost water. Yeah, 522 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 4: it is. It's an untenable situation for a lot of people. 523 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 4: And there are people that are leaving. You know, there 524 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: were certain places that right after the storm happened and 525 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 4: that they were saying, listen, if you can leave, leave, 526 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 4: help's not coming. And it's like, well, whoa wait a second. Here, 527 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 4: these are our communities. We're not going anywhere. And you know, 528 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 4: for what we wanted to do here at the radio station, 529 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: at iHeart Asheville was we wanted to show the community that, like, 530 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 4: we can get through this. And we've been kind of 531 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 4: repeating this line. Community is the answer to this crisis, 532 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 4: and it is amazing. You know, people have I always 533 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 4: go back to this one phone call and a guy 534 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: came called in and he says, you know, I've helped 535 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 4: so many of my neighbors today and I didn't even 536 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 4: ask who they voted for first. And it's just kind 537 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 4: of that, like everything else outside of Western North Carolina, 538 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 4: everything else doesn't matter right now. Like our job as 539 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 4: a as a station and as a group of stations 540 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,879 Speaker 4: and as an airstaff is to kind of unite our 541 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 4: community and bring us bring everyone together and get through 542 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 4: this together. I mean, it's going to be a heavy lift. 543 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 3: And what we have. 544 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 4: Seen is the absolute best in humanity in an absolute horrific, 545 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 4: horrific time. 546 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: We asked whether it was appropriate to even try to 547 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: come in here. You guys need so much help. The 548 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: story was, we want you to help get this story. 549 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: Because you're talking to all fifty states right now. You're 550 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: talking to people all over the world, really, but certainly 551 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: in all fifty states. What would you ask of them? 552 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 1: What can they do if they're listening right now and 553 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: they're hearing about how bad things are in Western North Carolina. 554 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 4: Honestly, I would recommend giving. Yeah, if you can give 555 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: please give Hearts with Hands dot org is again such 556 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 4: a wonderful organization. It's local. All that money stays local 557 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: as far as help goes. If you have a skill 558 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: and it's and and you feel like it would be worthy. 559 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 4: We need help here. You know. The cleanup, the cleanup 560 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 4: for the most part has gone pretty well, but there 561 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: is just so much of it. 562 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: You know. 563 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 4: We've got our our chainsaw teams from the radio station. 564 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 4: They're running wide open pretty much from six a m. 565 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 4: Until seven or eight o'clock at night. And uh, you know, 566 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 4: the one thing I guess that we don't need is 567 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: people coming to Western North Carolina per se to the 568 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 4: to the heavy disaster zones and kind of clogging things up. 569 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 4: There are areas in western North Carolina that are open 570 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 4: for business. 571 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: Maggie Valley. 572 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: I got a call today from a business owner. He's like, 573 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 4: hey man, He's like, I run a knife shop, and 574 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 4: he's like, we're totally open for business here and and 575 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: we would really rather you know, like direct people to 576 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 4: us if you if you can't, if they can't hang 577 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 4: out in Nashville, tell them to go come up to 578 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 4: Maggie Valley and see us, or go to Waynesville. And 579 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 4: you know there's a there's some there's some good truth 580 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: to that because these other these other areas, they they 581 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,719 Speaker 4: too are tourist economies. 582 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: This is what happened in Hawaii right where everybody decided 583 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: they didn't want to go to Hawaii. Buck and the 584 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: whole thing. So one more time that website, and by 585 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: the way, what you did, thanks to you and the 586 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: sacrifices that you made for your family. I can't even 587 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: imagine what you've gone through talking to so many people 588 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: in so many positions of peril. This is the best 589 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: of radio. 590 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 4: It absolutely is. And I gotta I have to shout 591 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 4: out my team because the team here at iHeart Ashville 592 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 4: is truly the most incredible group of people. They're most 593 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 4: of our staff works on music stations. They're not familiar 594 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 4: with the news talk format. That didn't matter because it 595 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 4: wasn't such a so much of a formatic thing. It 596 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 4: was we just need to be able to show people 597 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 4: that we're here to and when, and we care and 598 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 4: we're gonna help you one way or the other. If 599 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 4: we can't help you, we will find someone to help you. 600 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 4: And that's how it's worked out. And the community has 601 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 4: answered those calls and said, hey, you know what, I 602 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 4: can go over there and check on this guy. I 603 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 4: you know, I'm on my way to my next appointment. 604 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 4: I'll stop by and make sure that they're okay. It's 605 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 4: the power of radio, and it is the power of 606 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 4: this iHeartRadio Ashville team. They are just such an incredible 607 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 4: group of humans. You know, Tank Spencer and I were 608 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 4: here by ourselves for the first portion of the storm 609 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,920 Speaker 4: because our team couldn't get here. I don't know if 610 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 4: you saw coming, well you didn't see it coming because 611 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 4: you came it from the air, but coming up our 612 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 4: driveways line, it was lined with about a hundred trees. 613 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 4: Every tree came down, there was no way to get 614 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 4: in or out. It crushed the fence in the front. 615 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 4: Once those trees got out of the way, our team 616 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 4: was unstoppable. They got in and they just they just 617 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 4: got it done. And they have continued to you know, 618 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: this is our home, this is our community, and we 619 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 4: want to just see it built back. We know it's 620 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 4: going to take time, and we know it's going to 621 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 4: be heavy lifting, but this is where we call home 622 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: and Western North Carolina mountain folks are different. I got 623 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,959 Speaker 4: news for you. Mountain folks are tough and that we 624 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 4: will real we will rebuild this community. It may not 625 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 4: look exactly like it did, It'll be better. That's the 626 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 4: way I feel, And I feel like our community is 627 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: more united today than we ever have been in the 628 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 4: past because of this storm. And if that's the good 629 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 4: that we can that we can pull out of this, 630 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 4: I'll take it all day long. 631 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: Mark, Thank you so much, incredible work. Appreciate you telling 632 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 2: us about this and everyone who can go and donate 633 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 2: and help out. Please do you know this past Monday, 634 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 2: many of us took a moment to reflect that it 635 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: was the one year anniversary of the Hamas terrorist attack 636 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: on Israel, the worst massacre of the Jewish people since 637 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: the Holocaust, when the twelve hundred Israeli's lost their lives, 638 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 2: dozens more injured, two hundred and fifty hostage is taken. 639 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 2: The conflict remains as intense as ever. The IDF is 640 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 2: working to rescue hostages and fight back against Hesbela's daily 641 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 2: barrage of missiles. Israel's allies need to stand with her 642 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 2: in this moment, and that is where the International Fellowship 643 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 2: of Christians and Jews comes in. IFCJ has been on 644 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 2: the front lines to help and right now, your gift 645 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 2: of one hundred and fifty dollars helps the Fellowship provide 646 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 2: food and necessities to the families of reservists who have 647 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: been called up to help them in this time of need. 648 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: And your gift will be matched by a generous donor 649 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 2: doubling its impact. Call one hundred and fifty dollars A 650 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 2: call right now to make your one hundred and fifty 651 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 2: dollars gift eight eight eight four eight eight IFCJ. That's 652 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 2: eight eight eight four at eight IFCJ, or go online 653 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 2: to support IFCJ dot org. 654 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Tons of you just giving us so much feedback, I 655 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: want to think again. And if you didn't hear the 656 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: full thing, it'll be up on the podcast. We wanted 657 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: to share with you what the experience has been like 658 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 1: for people in Nashville and surrounding communities in western North 659 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: Carolina eastern Tennessee. And Mark Starling, who was the host 660 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: that was on with us in the opening segment of 661 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,960 Speaker 1: this hour from five to seventy AMWWNC. But you've talked 662 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: about this a lot. Radio uniquely connects with the audience 663 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: there are lots of different medias. There are lots of 664 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: different ways that people make connections, writing, TV, a variety 665 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 1: of different subjects, but radio at its core, really connects 666 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: with people. And I thought the stories that he was 667 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 1: sharing in a time of crisis here really connected with 668 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: you in all fifty. 669 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: States, and my family in Ashville at the height of 670 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 2: the storm and its destruction, or you know, in the 671 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 2: morning after it, they were listening on that station. Carrie 672 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: told me before Clay I even knew you were going 673 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: to Ashville, said, you've got to talk to these guys. 674 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 2: The iHeart team in Ashville has just been all hands 675 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 2: on deck, not just to get information out, but also 676 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: to coordinate response. 677 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 3: And rescue efforts. It's an amazing thing. 678 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 2: But yes, you can imagine for people who had the house, 679 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: you know, partially carved in by falling trees, surrounded by 680 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 2: lethal floodwaters on all sides, roads either washed away or 681 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 2: blocked by trees, to hear on on AM or FM radio, 682 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 2: we know you're out there, We're in your community. We're 683 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: coming for you. Hold tight. 684 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: Help is on the way. 685 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: I think of how meaningful that is, and it was 686 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 2: the only way to get people that message no doubt. 687 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,439 Speaker 1: We want to continue to update you with everything going 688 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 1: on in the world of politics as well. I'm here 689 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: in Ashville. You heard, by the way, Heartswithands dot Org 690 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: is a great organization local that you can donate to 691 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: if you were moved by the stories that you heard 692 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: being shared by Mark Starling and many others who are 693 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: talking to us outside and around the scenes here as 694 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm in Ashville. But I also wanted to not neglect 695 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: what's going on in the political realm right now. And 696 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: let's play this book. I don't know if you saw this. 697 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 1: You mentioned as we went to break just a second 698 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: ago that obviously this week was the one year anniversary 699 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: of October seventh, and to how do you pronounce his name? 700 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: By the way, I've read. 701 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 3: It for Tanahasei Coats. 702 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: Tanahasei Coats is a left wing icon who basically believes 703 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: that America is awful and that racist racist. 704 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 3: You got you in the word racist. 705 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 2: In fact, the book is really just every sentence is 706 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: about how racist, really actually white people are, but America 707 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 2: is more broadly as well racist racist, racist. And so 708 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 2: I heard this interview last night and I just thought 709 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: it was a perfect distillation of how awful many of 710 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 2: the people who argue that America is racist truly are. 711 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 2: And this was him. 712 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 713 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 2: Can I just add, because I think this important, Clay, 714 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 2: the left also believes that Israel is racist, racist, racist, 715 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: So that's where the connection is. Okay, we've already done 716 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 2: the trash America. It's all racist. All the white people 717 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 2: in America are racist. Israel, the left also believes racist. 718 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: And all the Israelis who first of all not I mean, 719 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 2: they're not even all white. 720 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 3: There's a whole other conversation, but they're all racist. 721 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: This is what many kids on college campuses are being taught, 722 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: which is why I want to play this for you. 723 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: And this is why maybe is next month is Thanksgiving 724 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: and you've got grandson or granddaughter sitting at the table 725 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: and they're going to say, oh, Israel, you know, they're 726 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: not a safe actor here. They deserve some of what 727 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: happened to them. This is the kind of arguments they're 728 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,239 Speaker 1: hearing on campus. I want you to hear it. This 729 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: was a discussion about why this guy coach would have 730 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 1: potentially been one of the terrorists as well. Listen to 731 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: his rationale. This is cut one. 732 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 6: Well, I twenty years old, born into Gaza, which is 733 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 6: a giant open air jail. And what I mean by 734 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 6: that is, if my father is a fisherman and he 735 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 6: goes too far allen to the see I just shot 736 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,919 Speaker 6: by somebody off of you know, side of Israeli botes. 737 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 6: If my mother picks the olive trees and she gets 738 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 6: too close to the wall, she might be shot. If 739 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 6: my little sister has you know, cancer and she needs 740 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 6: treatment because there are no you know, facilities to do 741 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 6: that in Gaza, and I don't get the right permits, 742 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,759 Speaker 6: she might die. And I grow up under that oppression 743 00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 6: and that poverty and the wall comes down. Am I 744 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,959 Speaker 6: also strong enough? But even constructed in such a way, 745 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 6: Why I say this is too far? 746 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: I don't know that I am buck. If you ever think, hey, 747 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 1: maybe I should kill somebody because of their race, their ethnicity, 748 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: or their religion, newsflash, you are not the good guy. 749 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,240 Speaker 1: But that's what many of these people believe. 750 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: Well this all Also, I don't think we've we've addressed 751 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: play the the reason that this is getting uh, you know, 752 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: so much attention. You you just played the most recent 753 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 2: appearance by by mister Coates on this on this issue. 754 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: He was on the CBS Morning Show pushing his new book, 755 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 2: which I believe only a portion of deals with this, 756 00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: only a portion of it deals with Israel Palestine. But 757 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 2: his position is very explicitly Israel is an apartheid state. 758 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 2: It is evil along the lines of South Africa or 759 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: even Nazi Germany, which is obviously very offensive to. 760 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 3: The Jewish people. 761 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 2: And the one of the anchors who I had never 762 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,719 Speaker 2: heard of before, Tony something that is I forget his 763 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:36,320 Speaker 2: last name, but Ducoppel da Kappel. He just basically said, 764 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,840 Speaker 2: why did you leave out in your explanation of the 765 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 2: Palestinian plight? Why did you leave And I say, Tony, actually, 766 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 2: you know has done his research. 767 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 3: He's like, why'd you leave out the Second Intifada? 768 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: Why did you not talk about the fact that there 769 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 2: was an effort in what was otherwise peacetime, a long 770 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 2: and sustained effort to send as many Palestinian suicide bombers 771 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 2: into civilian areas as pos to kill people who are 772 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:06,160 Speaker 2: at birthday parties, the old, the young, women, and children, 773 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 2: to pay the families of the suicide bombers, the Shahid 774 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 2: the martyrs in perpetuity, to hold up those families as 775 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 2: the great heroes of the Palestinian people. Not scientists, not athletes, 776 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 2: not businessmen, suicide bombers. The greatest heroes of the Palestinian 777 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,120 Speaker 2: people in the early two thousands, the suicide bombers and 778 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:26,720 Speaker 2: their families. 779 00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 3: Why no talk of any of that? 780 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,000 Speaker 2: And Clay, The thing about Tanahassikots is he's an icon 781 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 2: of the left. He is the most celebrated black author 782 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 2: of his generation. And so the rules at CBS are 783 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 2: you are not allowed to ask him questions. You are 784 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: allowed to clap and tell him how brilliant he is. 785 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,959 Speaker 2: Those are the unspoken rules of the Democrat Party. Those 786 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 2: were broken by that anchor at CBS. They have now 787 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 2: brought in we're not making any of this up. Diversity educators, 788 00:40:55,840 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 2: struggle sessions, reports about how people are crying in these meetings. 789 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 2: How dare he ask him any questions? I mean, this 790 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 2: is this is why the Democrat Party, the left is 791 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 2: so broken. 792 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 3: It's a cult. 793 00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: This is insane totally. And they also have now sent 794 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,760 Speaker 1: out instructions at CBS saying that they're not to say 795 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,880 Speaker 1: that Jerusalem is in Israel. I mean, I didn't believe 796 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: some of this stuff I had to go read it. 797 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: I saw the headlines CBS News is broken and this 798 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: we haven't spent a ton of time talking about it, 799 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,400 Speaker 1: but the way they edited the Kamala Harris sixty minutes 800 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,280 Speaker 1: interview buck When Dan Rather got caught making up news 801 00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: about George W. Bush, they fired him. They basically ended 802 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: his career when they failed about the National Guard and 803 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: all those stories. But really, to me, this is far 804 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: worse than that, because it goes to the very essence 805 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: of the organization itself and whether it can be trusted. 806 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 1: And so when you have people out there arguing Jewish 807 00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: people are so bad that basically anything you do to 808 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: them can be justified, and then you simultaneously have people 809 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: like the guy who's fighting back against the Madison Square 810 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: Garden rally against Trump saying, oh, this is like Nazis 811 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: rallying in nineteen thirty seven and nineteen thirty nine, all 812 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: these other things. I just want to push back and say, 813 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: you realize the left in this country is the one 814 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: arguing that any violence against Jewish people can be justified 815 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: based on their history, which is the same argument that 816 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were making. Now it's a 817 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: left wing in the United States argument. 818 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,280 Speaker 2: I want to also point out that there's a fundamental 819 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:44,839 Speaker 2: rejection of principle that the Allies the pro Palestinian pro 820 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 2: Hamas and by the way, people will they will bristle 821 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,760 Speaker 2: when you say they're pro Hamas. Hamas is the government 822 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,759 Speaker 2: of Gaza, the elected government of Gaza. So I don't 823 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,280 Speaker 2: know in what universe there if there was, And credit 824 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 2: to Doug Murray for slamming this point home a few times. 825 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 2: If there was an election in the West Bank, Hamas 826 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:06,760 Speaker 2: would win tomorrow. 827 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 3: Okay. 828 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 2: So Hamas are the chosen representatives of the Palestinian people 829 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 2: by the Palestinian people. At this point, there's nothing else 830 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 2: that we could point to or even talk about. And 831 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 2: they explicitly endorse the murder of as many Jews as 832 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 2: they can. 833 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 3: And then those same people who are saying. 834 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 2: Look at Israel, Israel overreacts or Israel is going too far, 835 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 2: Israel's violating crimes of you know, they're saying they're committing 836 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 2: war crimes, have nothing to say about Palestinians. Never, I mean, 837 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 2: on October seventh, and I don't know what else you 838 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 2: could How could it be more. 839 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 3: Evil than that? 840 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 2: But This is the way that Hamas has been fighting 841 00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,520 Speaker 2: all along. They just want to go and murder Jews 842 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 2: and then say that they are a resistance organization. They're 843 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 2: not a resistance organization that wants to negotiate. They just 844 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 2: exist in this world where the more Jews that they 845 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 2: can kill, the better. That is their only real mission. 846 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: They've e miserated the Palace Indian people. They're absolutely corrupt 847 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 2: and God bless Netnyahu and the idea for hunting them 848 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,240 Speaker 2: down and killing as many of them as he possibly 849 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,160 Speaker 2: can who are involved in October seventh. That is just 850 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 2: that has warfare conducted the way that it should be. 851 00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 2: And the fact that the Democrat Party has all this 852 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 2: confusion on this issue, Clay, what kind of lack of 853 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 2: moral clarity is possible where you could have on October 854 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: seventh Democrats, Kamala voters, let's be honest about it, marching 855 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: in support of Hamas and Palestine or the Palestinians. 856 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: It's truly delusional and that is the base of the 857 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: Democrat Party right now, which is why Kamala Harris didn't 858 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: pick I think you could die it in directly with 859 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: the presidential election in a few weeks why Josh Shapiro 860 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: is not the pick because people like Coats on the 861 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 1: left in the Democrat Party would have lost their minds 862 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: if they picked the Jewish guy after October seventh. 863 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 2: I think that's also a critical point, Clay, because if 864 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,959 Speaker 2: they lose this election, and they lose it because of Pennsylvania, 865 00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 2: it is the Democrat coddling of anti Semites that may 866 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 2: have cost in the election. I will say poetic justice 867 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,240 Speaker 2: in that poetical it was very karmically. 868 00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,839 Speaker 1: Just if that ends up happening, I want to tell 869 00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,759 Speaker 1: you we're just talking about what happened at Israel on 870 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: October seventh. The impact of what happened with the United 871 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,800 Speaker 1: States on nine to eleven continues. And think the Lord 872 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 1: that we have tunnel the towers out there to help 873 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: everybody with who is still fighting the battles of terror 874 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: and beyond. William Gilbert enlisted in the US Army to 875 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: become part of something much bigger than himself. He loved 876 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: the sense of brotherhood. During his career, he was honored 877 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,240 Speaker 1: with a Good Conduct Medal, a non Article five NATO Medal, 878 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,319 Speaker 1: a Purple Heart, and a Bronze Star medal. While on 879 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: Patrol one day, a soldier from william squad stepped on 880 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: an ied. As William and others tried to help, another 881 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,319 Speaker 1: ied detonated, resulting in the tragic death of William and 882 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,720 Speaker 1: two of his fellow soldiers. William left behind his pregnant wife, 883 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,839 Speaker 1: Monica and their children. These are the stories you never 884 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,760 Speaker 1: year about. The Tunnel of the Towers Foundation provided William's 885 00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,319 Speaker 1: family with a mortgage free home, although he was never 886 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,640 Speaker 1: able to meet his youngest daughter, she is the epitome 887 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,919 Speaker 1: of everything he was. Honor heroes like United States Army 888 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,720 Speaker 1: specialist E four William Joseph Gilbert join us in donating 889 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: eleven dollars a month to Tunnel the Towers at T 890 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 1: two t dot org. That's t the number two t 891 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,000 Speaker 1: dot org. 892 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,840 Speaker 3: What is Trump film like? These days? 893 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot about the Kamala campaign, scrambling 894 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:39,319 Speaker 2: trying to come up with some message of masculinity that. 895 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 3: Will resonate, you know, because when when you think. 896 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:47,320 Speaker 2: Of the Democrat Party these days, which is very supportive 897 00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 2: as remember this, the Democrat Party requires for you to 898 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 2: be in good standing, requires you to believe that you 899 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 2: know an eighteen year old high school student guy who 900 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 2: said he's a girl should be able to just get 901 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: out there on like the women's lacrosse field and lay 902 00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 2: out all those chicks and just you know, that's it. 903 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 2: You know, that is a mandatory belief, and they wonder 904 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 2: why we're like not really on board with the whole 905 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,960 Speaker 2: masculinity thing for Democrats. So that is a component of 906 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 2: all of this. But on the Trump side of things, 907 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 2: I gotta say he's kind of strutting his stuff, feeling 908 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 2: pretty good about himself right now. I think I think 909 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,440 Speaker 2: the Trumpster feels the call of destiny right now, and 910 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 2: he's doing his thing. I mean, you compare Trump out 911 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,360 Speaker 2: on the stump just doing effectively live one man show 912 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:42,480 Speaker 2: for an hour here, two hours there, versus the Kamala 913 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 2: superscripted sit down with people who are in the tank 914 00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 2: for her, and she still cannot manage to string together 915 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 2: a few sentences to convince anybody she's good at much 916 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 2: of anything. 917 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 3: But this was a moment. 918 00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 2: Trump was in Detroit yesterday and he said to Detroit audience, Look, 919 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 2: if the Democrats w I Kamlo wins this one, the 920 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 2: whole country's. 921 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,600 Speaker 3: Going to start to feel like Detroit does right now. 922 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 3: Play it. 923 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 5: I don't think anything that we're talking about today is 924 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,320 Speaker 5: high on our list. I mean, the whole country is 925 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 5: going to be like you want to know the truth, 926 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 5: It'll be like Detroit. Our whole country will end up 927 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 5: being like Detroit. If she's your president, you're gonna have 928 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 5: a mess on your hands. She destroyed San Francisco, she destroyed, 929 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:30,120 Speaker 5: along with Newscombe, California, and. 930 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,360 Speaker 4: We're not going to let her do that to this country. 931 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 4: We're not going to let it happen. 932 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,360 Speaker 2: Clay, I mean, it's quite a move to tell people 933 00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 2: in Detroit that Kalma's going to make the rest of 934 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 2: the country as dysfunctional as unfortunately the city itself of 935 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 2: Detroit has been for a long time. But I do 936 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 2: think the message that Democrats, when they have total control, 937 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,399 Speaker 2: as they do in these cities, they make a mess 938 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 2: of things. 939 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 3: It's very true. It's very true. 940 00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 1: I know Detroit pretty well because my wife is from there. 941 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: It became the worst city in America, and it started 942 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,400 Speaker 1: to come back. But you know how it started to 943 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 1: come back because they've embraced more aspects of capitalism and 944 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: the fact that Detroit got so incredibly affordable for a 945 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: lot of different people out there, and then I think 946 00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:16,600 Speaker 1: there are other individuals that deserve a lot of credit. 947 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: They brought the wings back to downtown Detroit, the Red Wings, 948 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,920 Speaker 1: that is, they've got the Detroit Lions, the Detroit Tigers, 949 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,919 Speaker 1: all of the Pistons, all of those teams now play 950 00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: right downtown and they've slowly developed many of the streets 951 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: and brought them back to where there's some form of safety. 952 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: But ultimately, what Trump is talking about is the degradation 953 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,560 Speaker 1: of the American marketplace. My father in law is a 954 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: lifelong Detroit resident. He was one of the first people 955 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: I met who I knew was super smart, super plugged in. 956 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: And he told me early in twenty sixteen, I'm voting 957 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 1: for Trump. And I said, oh, that's interesting. Is what 958 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 1: is driving that? And he said, he's right. We don't 959 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 1: make things anymore. And that is the thing that matter 960 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,920 Speaker 1: the most to my father in law, who is an engineer, 961 00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,040 Speaker 1: is American manufacturing has all been outsourced. There aren't the 962 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: jobs that they used to be. Detroit was an economic 963 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:14,560 Speaker 1: miracle for the forties, the fifties into the early nineteen 964 00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,240 Speaker 1: sixties before you started to have the riots and everything 965 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: fell apart and everybody flooded into areas that are still really, 966 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,440 Speaker 1: really nice, like Oakland County, but Dwayne County itself in 967 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:27,600 Speaker 1: the Detroit area has struggled massively, and a big part 968 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,960 Speaker 1: of that is because many of the best jobs that 969 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: people moved to the Detroit area to get in manufacturing 970 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: don't exist there anymore. And there's a lot of people 971 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:39,319 Speaker 1: that have been struggling as those blue collar jobs have 972 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 1: abandoned the city. And Frankly, Buck, I think a lot 973 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: of people in Detroit not at along because they saw 974 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: what happened in Detroit as emblematic of what was happening 975 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,000 Speaker 1: all over many parts of the country. And I think 976 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 1: it's why Trump's going to win the Midwest because he 977 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: recognized this early. It was a huge part of his 978 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen campaign. We've got to make things in America, 979 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 1: and all of you out there who lived through twenty 980 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 1: twenty in the supply chain crisis, much of that was 981 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 1: because we don't manufacture things on shore anymore and we 982 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: were having to get caught with all of the issues offshore. 983 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,880 Speaker 1: I've never heard anybody answer, well, when Russia invaded Ukraine, 984 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,319 Speaker 1: all of American commerce kind of wagged their finger at 985 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,480 Speaker 1: Russia and said, oh, we're not going to do business 986 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,200 Speaker 1: with you anymore. McDonald's isn't there. You name it. If 987 00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,719 Speaker 1: China invaded Taiwan, we have no ability to do to 988 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,760 Speaker 1: China what we did to Russia, and I think China 989 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,879 Speaker 1: knows it. But so much of our product is now 990 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: sourced in China. We could say that to Russia and 991 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,360 Speaker 1: look like social justice warriors because now they have something 992 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: else other than McDonald's. But we couldn't do that to China. 993 00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,600 Speaker 1: And that's what we got to bring back so many, 994 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,480 Speaker 1: so much more of our manufacturing and have it rooted 995 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 1: in some way. I was yesterday Buck you started talking about. 996 00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,040 Speaker 1: Yesterday was XX Day, which we talked about Women's Sports 997 00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: Day and the fact that there. I think many of Democrats' 998 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,840 Speaker 1: policies are hemorrhaging, none more than men can be women's champions. 999 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: And if a man says he's a woman, you have 1000 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: to believe it. I was talking with a guy at 1001 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,359 Speaker 1: Marsha Blackburn's rally in Jackson, Tennessee, and he was talking 1002 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,200 Speaker 1: about the impact of a car factory coming to West 1003 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: Tennessee and how many jobs it was going to bring 1004 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: and how much it matters to just have in many 1005 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,520 Speaker 1: of these communities the ability for somebody not to have 1006 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,480 Speaker 1: to flee and go to a big city and be 1007 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: able to get a high paying job in the United States. 1008 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's the essence of Trump's campaign. 1009 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:31,520 Speaker 2: I think that if Trump just stays on message from 1010 00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:37,160 Speaker 2: now until the election, there is a very good chance 1011 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,160 Speaker 2: that not only I think he becomes president, but he 1012 00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 2: may even surprise us with one or two states that 1013 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,680 Speaker 2: are thought to be somewhat outside the reach of the Republicans. 1014 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,120 Speaker 2: Right now, I think that it's there's a real chance 1015 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,680 Speaker 2: here to do a little bit of running up the scoreboard. 1016 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,279 Speaker 2: That's how much more on point Trump currently is. 1017 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 3: And again I keep. 1018 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,440 Speaker 2: This is within the two percent of the elect or 1019 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: whatever the number is right now, that isn't done. I'm 1020 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 2: in for Trump, I'm in for Kamala, right, I'm talking 1021 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 2: about in that last that's what all these think about 1022 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,359 Speaker 2: the billions of dollars being spent, billions of dollars being 1023 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,719 Speaker 2: spent to convince it's probably more like one percent of 1024 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,000 Speaker 2: the population. But you know, but let's say two percent, 1025 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,799 Speaker 2: just to be in the safe side. Two percent of 1026 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,320 Speaker 2: the voting population to make one choice or another, and 1027 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 2: so you know, look, Trump is out there also with 1028 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 2: his economic message. Trump promised that he would put this 1029 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 2: is cut nine, that he would put tariffs on imported 1030 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:35,720 Speaker 2: cars if that's what it takes to help. 1031 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,880 Speaker 3: The American auto industry. Listen to this plainte. 1032 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 5: China is currently building gigantic auto plants in Mexico, and 1033 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 5: they think that they're going to sell all of these 1034 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 5: cars into the United States, which would destroy Michigan, totally 1035 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 5: destroy your state. But it's not going to happen, not 1036 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 5: going to happen, not even close. They might as well 1037 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,480 Speaker 5: stop building the damn plants. 1038 00:53:58,200 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 4: I will impose. 1039 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,759 Speaker 5: Whatever tariffs are required per one thousand percent. They're not 1040 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,239 Speaker 5: going to sell any cars into the United States with 1041 00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 5: those plants. 1042 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,919 Speaker 2: Now, the terriff issue, I know, even on the right, 1043 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 2: there's some back and forth. 1044 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,160 Speaker 3: Not everyone agrees with tariff. I do think it's interesting. 1045 00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 2: The Biden campaign, I'm sorry, whoops, the Kamala campaign has 1046 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: wanted to hit Trump on tariffs, but it has started 1047 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:30,120 Speaker 2: to emerge more. Yeah, except that Biden kept Trump's tariffs 1048 00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,000 Speaker 2: on China in place. So how can you be in 1049 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,600 Speaker 2: charge and go along with the guy before you and 1050 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,600 Speaker 2: not undo what he did and then say what he 1051 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:40,239 Speaker 2: did is bad. 1052 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,239 Speaker 3: That's a tough one. 1053 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: I'll also point out, Buck, this is Trump was making 1054 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: this argument when they tried to claim that he was 1055 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,280 Speaker 1: saying that there would be a bloodbath if he lost. 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