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Speaker 2: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to another NFL episode of the

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Speaker 2: award winning Action Network podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, the editor

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Speaker 2: in chief of Fantasy Labs. With me are Shawn Corner

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Speaker 2: and Chris Raybond. Shawn is the Action Network director of

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Speaker 2: Predictive Analytics, and Chris is a senior editor and analyst

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Speaker 2: at the Action Network. There are two of the best

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Speaker 2: fantasy football rankers in the world and joining us to

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Speaker 2: talk about sleepers and some of the players he's planting

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Speaker 2: his flag on for twenty twenty is Christopher Harris, the

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Speaker 2: proprietor of Harris Football and one of the OG's of

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Speaker 2: the fantasy football industry. Chris, thanks for joining.

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Speaker 3: Us, Oh, thanks for having me. It's fun to be here.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's nice to have on the show. Finally

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Speaker 2: a Chris who knows what he's talking about.

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Speaker 2: I gotta let him. I'm not gonna let him steamroll.

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Speaker 4: Hey Friedman, I know you heard the reports of Dan

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Speaker 4: Arnold being quote unquote dominant in practice. Well, aj Dow

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Speaker 4: it may not be a factor early in the year

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Speaker 4: for the Packers.

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Speaker 3: I know you heard those.

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Speaker 2: I have nothing to say. I'm just I'm wallowing in

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Speaker 2: shame over here. Chris Harris, it is great to have

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Speaker 2: you back on the show. We've had a fantastic run

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Speaker 2: of shows recently. We've had Evan Silva, Ian Hartenstenny Carter,

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Speaker 2: and Sigmund Bloom and then now we have you. It's

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Speaker 2: just piling greatness upon greatness. So really looking forward to

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Speaker 2: this episode, and earlier this week we put out our

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Speaker 2: annual Fantasy one to one show. All those episodes are great.

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Speaker 2: Check them out as well as the rankings and the

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Speaker 2: up to minute projections in the fantasy football cheat sheet

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Speaker 2: at Action Network. So today with Chris. We were talking

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Speaker 2: about fantasy football sleepers. People. If you like what here,

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Speaker 2: give us that five star rating Leaver review, we would

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. Gentlemen, let's get into it, Chris, I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about your rankings, your projection process. What are

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Speaker 2: the stats you use, what are the things you prioritize

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Speaker 2: when you're evaluating players.

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Speaker 6: Well, I'm not the stat guy, right, so I'm certainly

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Speaker 6: looking at stats, but I'm not going to use a

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Speaker 6: to come out with I don't do projections.

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Speaker 3: I respect the projection process. I worked for Espna eight years.

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Speaker 6: I had to do projections, and for a long time

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Speaker 6: I didn't necessarily love it, but I did them. You know,

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Speaker 6: what it came down to was guessing who was going

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Speaker 6: And really, your your model can be great, and it

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Speaker 6: can have a nice sense of you know, team pace,

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Speaker 6: little offensive snap numbers. I understand all the mechanics that

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Speaker 6: guessing about depth charts and guessing about percentages of time

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Speaker 6: really I'm not so much doing that as I am

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Speaker 6: watching film. I'm mean, you guys know that. I like,

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Speaker 6: that's what I do all through.

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Speaker 3: The entire season.

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Speaker 6: I watch every game every week, talk about them on

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Speaker 3: And that's really the basis on which.

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Speaker 6: I try to evaluate, of course, situation and depth chart

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Speaker 6: Like clearly, situation matters. In my process, try to deaccentuate

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Speaker 6: Plus we make mistakes on situations so often every single year.

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Speaker 3: Imretty sure the forty niners would do one it.

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Speaker 6: So my rank process isn't I would say quantitative in

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Speaker 5: Are, so we're going to be identifying all of our

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Speaker 5: sleepers out of every position. I'm just curious, Chris, what

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Speaker 5: is your definition of what it means to be a sleeper?

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Speaker 6: I mean, this year, maybe more than any other I

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Speaker 6: that it's completely different depending on what site you go to.

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Speaker 6: Maybe that has something to do with people being slow

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Speaker 6: to get back to fantasy and therefore maybe there isn't

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Speaker 6: as much data on all these sites. Maybe their respective

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Speaker 6: and or just scoring systems are veering apart so greatly

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Speaker 6: But I have found very difficult to find any kind

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Speaker 6: what a sleeper is because I think sleepers are based

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Speaker 3: And you're like, what are you talking about? He's going

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Speaker 3: exactly where we should go. It's at least leads to

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Speaker 7: I think, yeah, that's absolutely true.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's a buzzy word and people

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Speaker 4: I am kind of interested, Chris in some of your

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Speaker 4: and before we kind of dive into the sleepers, who

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and even even you could argue, like again, it's

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Speaker 6: I guess if I have a third round, great on

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Speaker 6: So early on, you know, I like Courtland Sutton a

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Speaker 3: But Sutton just.

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Speaker 2: So I'm with you very much on Courtland Sutton. He's

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Speaker 2: there's a lot to be enthusiastic about when it comes

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Speaker 6: Cam Newton is the first one that He's the only

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Speaker 6: I've been doing forever and ever and ever, Like now

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Speaker 6: I have listeners to my show going I grew up

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Speaker 6: But you know, it's like ten guys that I that

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Speaker 6: And yet still I don't think he's being treated as

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Speaker 6: especially at that position in most leagues, it just doesn't matter,

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Speaker 6: Like take the chance, take the high upside guy. Take

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Speaker 6: Cam Newton over Kirk Cousins for heaven's sake, Like you

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Speaker 6: don't need safe to take shoot the moon. And if

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Speaker 6: just did this CBS draft like right before we started,

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Speaker 6: and it's a it's an IDP like twenty seven round

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Speaker 6: and it only this is not super flex when I

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Speaker 3: But the leagues are very it's a very deep, very

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Speaker 6: My backup to Deshaun Watson, and like it must have

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Speaker 6: You know, Aaron Rodgers bent the whole season through four interceptions.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sean, where are you on quarterbacks that you

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Speaker 5: The first guy Carson went and I don't specifically go

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Speaker 5: But I do think Carson Wentz has the potential to

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Speaker 5: You know, Djacks went off for like one hundred eight

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Speaker 5: You know, I've said he's going to be this year's

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Speaker 7: And yeah, I love Matthew Stafford this year.

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Speaker 6: If anything, probably if you're in a league that people

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Speaker 6: And he was never being drafted as a fantasy starter rightly.

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Speaker 6: He's we remember him at Memphis. He's a game breaker,

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Speaker 3: And what I'll say is, all right, I guess.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's decided the Jets have zero percent chance of being

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Speaker 5: I do think he will be the goal line back.

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Speaker 5: You know, they use Frank Gore in that role last

438
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Speaker 5: year and he went two for twelve in attempts inside

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Speaker 5: the five. So I think they specifically drafted Zach Moss

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Speaker 5: to be that goal line back. And I think he's

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Speaker 5: the type of back where I could see him eventually

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Speaker 5: overtaking Devin Singletary, and you know, at RB forty one,

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Speaker 5: I think all of this value adds up to him

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Speaker 5: being a great sleeper in that round.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we've we've got some some conflict on the

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Speaker 2: podcast with but so Chrasy, you like Singletary, Sean, you

447
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Speaker 2: like Moss, Raymond, I think that that you like Moss too.

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Speaker 2: I think the question is is it possible that there's

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Speaker 2: enough fantasy goodness within that Buffalo Bill's offense go round

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Speaker 2: where Singletary still ends up being a guy who has

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Speaker 2: twelve hundred ish yards or so, but we see moskeet

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Speaker 2: the targets, see Moss get more of the touchdowns, and

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Speaker 2: both guys end up having some fantasy value. Raybond, what

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Speaker 2: do you think I'm.

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Speaker 7: Right on board with Moss.

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Speaker 4: I feel like we're in mid season four because to me,

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Speaker 4: going after Sean, it's like it's tough now because I

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Speaker 4: love Boston Scott as well for the for the same reasons,

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Speaker 4: you know, going back to your question Friedman, Yeah, in Buffalo,

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Speaker 4: you look at the Bills and I know we've both

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Speaker 4: kind of taken advantage of this.

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Speaker 7: You know, they're very consistent and predictable.

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Speaker 4: Right, so you know when they're when they're on the

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Speaker 4: road or they're playing with you know, a team that's

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Speaker 4: going to kind of be tough to beat. They're going

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Speaker 4: to play low scoring games that tend to go under

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Speaker 4: the total. You're going to see a very consistent kind

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Speaker 4: of backfield split. You know, they got better on offense.

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Speaker 4: I know you don't truly believe in Josh Allen, but

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Speaker 4: you know Stefanan Digg is gonna help a lot. So

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Speaker 4: I think that team is going to be a very

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Speaker 4: concentrated team in terms of you know, Singletary is going

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Speaker 4: to get his sixteen or seventeen touches, Moss is going

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Speaker 4: to get his eight or nine, and then you just

475
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Speaker 4: have that kind of built and upside of you know,

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Speaker 4: Moss getting goal and where Singletary getting hurt or whatnot.

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Speaker 4: I do like Pollard as well, though, even though he

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Speaker 4: is playing behind Zeke, because remember Mike McCarthy made Tied

479
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Speaker 4: Montgomery hybrid player a thing at one point, and we

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Speaker 4: all just kind of like have kind of assigned the

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Speaker 4: you know, as Chris Harris talked about, kind of you know,

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Speaker 4: we're just assigning these carries and targets to players, and

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Speaker 4: we've done that for like Jarwin into Witten and see

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Speaker 4: wamb to Randall Cobb. But there is a chance that

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Speaker 4: a very good chance, actually, I think that that Poward

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Speaker 4: kind of enters that mix a little more. Going on

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Speaker 4: year two, he led the league in broken tackle rate

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Speaker 4: among running backs, so he broke about half as many

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Speaker 4: tackles as Zeke on a fourth of the workloade essentially,

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Speaker 4: so really good players, still good great situation there, and

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Speaker 4: then a couple more more like good values. I think

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Speaker 4: Jordan Howard, you know, I know the Dolphins are scary

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Speaker 4: to kind of invest running backs in.

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Speaker 7: I think the offensive behind is going.

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Speaker 4: To be yeah, below average, too bad, But Jordan Howard

496
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Speaker 4: is still going at a price, you know, outside of

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Speaker 4: the top thirty in most leagues where there is some

498
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Speaker 4: upside there because you look at chan Gaily and remember

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Speaker 4: he's a new OC for Miami and he tends to

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Speaker 4: surprise people.

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Speaker 7: You know, he came to the Jets in twenty fifteen,

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Speaker 7: no one expected much.

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Speaker 4: They had Ryan Fitzpatrick and I'm all these kind of

504
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Speaker 4: weird crew guys, and next thing, you know, they're pretty good.

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Speaker 4: And Chris Ivory that year got sixteen and a half

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Speaker 4: carries per game, about eighteen touches per game. And then

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Speaker 4: the next year, you know, Matt fourte is he was

508
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Speaker 4: kind of in a similar role, and you know, people

509
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Speaker 4: are kind of thinking he's gonna retire.

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Speaker 7: So that's kind of the role that we expect for

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Speaker 7: Jordan Howard.

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Speaker 4: I think Matt Breida is actually a value too, but

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Speaker 4: he's more like the bow Al Powell. You know, Gailly

514
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Speaker 4: has also been a very predictable offensive coordinator. So at

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Speaker 4: that point, I'm just taking kind of if i can

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Speaker 4: get kind of free touches and carries. At that point

517
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Speaker 4: in the draft, it's not as big as a risk

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Speaker 4: if I'm taking a guy in like the frozen Pond

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Speaker 4: Tea and I have to kind of depend on that.

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Speaker 4: So you know, I'm fine with investing a little bit

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Speaker 4: into into Howard at that price, and I think Sean

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Speaker 4: mentioned Chase Edmunds. You got to take some Chase Edmonds

523
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Speaker 4: because we know how valuable that that Arizona Cardinals backfield

524
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Speaker 4: can be, you know, and if if Kenyan Drake has

525
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Speaker 4: never really handled a full workload over an entire season,

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Speaker 4: and I love Kenyan Drake, but his handcuff is pretty cheap.

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Speaker 7: And that's Edmunds.

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Speaker 4: And you know, he was playing every snap, was Drake.

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Speaker 4: You know, he wasn't really coming out of the game,

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Speaker 4: and it's just something he's never done. And you know,

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Speaker 4: running backs already have the most elevated chance of an injury.

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Speaker 4: So I think Edmunds is someone not to forget about.

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Speaker 4: Remember he's the guy they kept, you know, and Johnson

534
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Speaker 4: is the guy they let go. So it looks like

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Speaker 4: they still, you know, they still believe in Edmonds a

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Speaker 4: little more. And if he if Drake goes down, I

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Speaker 4: think Edmunds will kind of see him back in that

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Speaker 4: in that role. That was the reason that we were

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Speaker 4: kind of drafting him late last year as well.

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Speaker 2: Chris, I want to get your thoughts on that Singletary

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Speaker 2: Moss split. How do you think that's going to play

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Speaker 2: out and if you think there's enough fantasy potential within

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Speaker 2: that backfield for both guys to end up providing value.

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Speaker 3: The wrong answer for that question for almost every team

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Speaker 3: in the league is the wrong answer would be no,

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Speaker 3: there's no chance.

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Speaker 6: Because I just don't think we know. I think we

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Speaker 6: sit here and decide we know that the Vegas win

549
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Speaker 6: totals are right, and that the and and we're wrong.

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Speaker 6: You know a third of the teams will miss their

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Speaker 6: Vegas win total by three games or more. Like it's

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Speaker 6: just the year to year super hard to predict. I

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Speaker 6: would hesitate to find, like more than a few teams

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Speaker 6: that I would answer that question no, that no, not possible.

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Speaker 6: That offense can't possibly be good enough to sustain to

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Speaker 6: fantasy running backs from the same team. I think Buffalo

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Speaker 6: very clearly qualifies as one that would if they get

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Speaker 6: if they're good, if they're good enough, they're about as

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Speaker 6: good as last year, maybe a little better, and which

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Speaker 6: it seems like it's in the range of possible outcomes

561
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Speaker 6: than one hundred percent. Singletary can still be the lead guy,

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Speaker 6: can still get his twelve hundred yards from scrimmage, can

563
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Speaker 6: still score six touchdowns, and then Zach Moss can get

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Speaker 6: whatever from scrimmage and score or eight touchdowns like if

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Speaker 6: and Josh Allen runs less.

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Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I've heard him say that.

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Speaker 6: I don't believe anything players will say, but the long

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Speaker 6: way of saying, I'm more into Singletary than I'm into Moss.

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Speaker 6: I think Moss is his the bright shiny object that

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Speaker 6: people are foisting a lot of a lot of energy into.

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Speaker 6: But he's not expensive in drafts, so I don't mind

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Speaker 6: getting them both, or I don't mind if I didn't

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Speaker 6: get Singletary still getting Moss. I think it's it's perfectly

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Speaker 6: fine since I didn't realize, you know, I kind of

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Speaker 6: sleeper is in the eye of the beholder.

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Speaker 3: I'll throw a couple more names into the hat, just

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Speaker 3: the Chiefs, guys, the Chiefs.

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Speaker 6: It seems like there isn't a draft that goes by

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Speaker 6: that I don't take DeAndrea Washington, and then I'm almost

580
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Speaker 6: sometimes feel compelled to get Darwin Thompson.

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Speaker 3: Also depends on the draft format.

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Speaker 6: It's maybe a lot to spend your thirteenth on one

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Speaker 6: guy and your fourteenth on another, and yet this is

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Speaker 6: really not to slight Clyde Edwards Hilaire. It's just to

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Speaker 6: say it's a potentially incredibly valuable scenario. I don't imagine

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Speaker 6: that I need my thirteenth round pick to have a

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Speaker 6: lot of standalone value in Week one anyway. And let's

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Speaker 6: just see in this year of all years, getting a

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Speaker 6: bunch of chiefs, and let's just see how not only

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Speaker 6: how the rookie with no mini camp and no training

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Speaker 6: camp and no exhibition season does, but also let's just

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Speaker 6: see how many players per week are not available to

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Speaker 6: play and if Edwards Zilaira is unlucky enough to be

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Speaker 6: one of those guys. And I'm sitting on DeAndrea Washington

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Speaker 6: and the problem, of course, as we don't it could

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Speaker 6: be Daryl Williams, like we don't really know what the

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Speaker 6: actual solution is, but I'm often willing to just go

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Speaker 6: ahead and stash first DeAndre Washington and then Darwin Thompson.

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Speaker 4: So from the camp reports, it looks like Williams is

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Speaker 4: still going to have that role with last year, so

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Speaker 4: he'll he looks like Thompson and Washington are kind of

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Speaker 4: competing for who's going to be active on game day.

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Speaker 6: But you know, the camp reports are not real, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: you're you're aware of the fact that it's a bunch

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Speaker 6: of it's just nonsense.

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Speaker 4: It's guardable, yeah, but I mean in that situation, in

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Speaker 4: that situation, you're just looking for, like what the team

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Speaker 4: is actually doing, you know, like if if Williams.

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Speaker 3: Is second not doing anything anything right now?

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Speaker 7: It changes every week with any read anyway, what was Darryl.

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Speaker 5: Williams's role anyway? Was it occasional goal line kerry every

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Speaker 5: other weeks.

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Speaker 4: It's the most annoying role to an in the history

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Speaker 4: of football, because no matter which chief you own, if

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Speaker 4: Daryl Williams scores a touchdown, you're.

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Speaker 2: Not happy, Anthony Sherman.

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, he's about it. He's on that level too.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: Of course the added complication is damingly it's not being

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Speaker 6: there right because the answer to that question about who

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Speaker 6: you wanted and Ken City last year sure did changed.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: At first it looked like it was gonna be the

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Speaker 6: Sean McCoy for heaven's sake, you know, for much of

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Speaker 6: last season, and then he winds up playing like two

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Speaker 6: snaps on the postings Like, You're right, they can change

640
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Speaker 6: their mind as they go or as someone fumbles or whatever.

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Speaker 6: Like it feels like it would be a pretty clear

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Speaker 6: I want Edwards Hilaire and then I want Damian Williams

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Speaker 6: and I wouldn't need to worry about anybody else in

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Speaker 6: what a relief that is. And with no Damian Williams,

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Speaker 6: other guys are going to wind up being relevant at

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Speaker 6: some point. But you're right, it's tough to predict, quich.

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Speaker 2: If Daryl Williams plays the Mike Tolbert role in this offense,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to lose it. But we haven't spent enough

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Speaker 2: time talking about running backs who don't matter, So I

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Speaker 2: want to mention two more guys. Duke Johnson is someone

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Speaker 2: who perpetually disappoints me because I think that, you know,

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Speaker 2: finally this could be the year in which he finally

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Speaker 2: breaks out, but he has a locked in role in

654
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: the offense as a receiving back. It's a good offense,

655
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: and the one guy ahead of him on the depth

656
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: chart right now, David Johnson is someone I really don't

657
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 2: have a lot of faith in to stay healthy or

658
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,560
Speaker 2: to be effective. So I think there are multiple ways

659
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Speaker 2: in which somehow it could work out for Johnson to

660
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: get his shot. And it's a similar perspective I have

661
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: with another guy, Damien Harris, who you know, has gotten

662
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: a lot of hype, and I don't know if all

663
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: of it is warranted. I still think that, you know, if.

664
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Speaker 3: Sony can I ask that question, it's it's not all warranted,

665
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Speaker 3: just proceed.

666
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, all of this, I mean, assuming that

667
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: Sony Michelle is actually healthy. You know, in week one,

668
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: I imagine that he would be the guy who leads

669
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 2: the backfield as the between the tackles grinder. But you know, Michelle,

670
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 2: who knows if he's actually going to be healthy for

671
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: week one, who knows if he stays healthy for the season,

672
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 2: and who knows that if he's actually effective, Well, he

673
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 2: wasn't all that effective of a runner last year, so

674
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Speaker 2: it wouldn't be surprising if he does this year something

675
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: similar to what he did last year. If another back

676
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: at some point were to get an opportunity, and I

677
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: think if that happens, it would be Damien Harris.

678
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 3: Can I ask what makes you think?

679
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 6: I mean they signed Lamar Miller to Damian Harris has

680
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 6: eight snaps in his NFL career and you loved.

681
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: Him in college, Okay, but like I sure didn't.

682
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: It's much more. It's much more of a projection with

683
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: Lamar Miller. I kind of look at him as the

684
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: you know, the veteran who gets signed to get cut

685
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 2: at the end of training camp. And maybe there's, you know,

686
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 2: the opportunity that he catches on, but he doesn't do

687
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: much for special teams. And Harris is a guy they

688
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 2: invested a top one hundred pick in last year. He

689
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: wasn't a dynamic playmaker at Alabama, but I think he

690
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: at least has a three down skill set. And maybe

691
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: maybe he disagree with me, but I mean, I think

692
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: he can be good enough catching the ball out of

693
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: the backfield and better than James White as a runner,

694
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: almost kind of like the younger version of Rex Burkhead,

695
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: you know, So maybe he ends up getting the shot.

696
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 6: I mean, I think he's the younger I think he's

697
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 6: the younger version of Sony Michelle to be, to be honest,

698
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 6: I feel like they drafted another Sony Michelle. But yeah,

699
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm a Patriots fan. Maybe I'm a little jaded,

700
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 6: but I'm so. I'm not a big fan of the

701
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 6: Damien Harris pick. And they obviously didn't feel they've invested

702
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 6: a top one hundred pick in him last year and

703
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,239
Speaker 6: didn't feel obliged to use him.

704
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 3: So I don't know.

705
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: Here's the one thing I will push back on on

706
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: just a little bit.

707
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Speaker 5: You know.

708
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: I think it was almost ten years ago we saw

709
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: them invest top one hundred picks and Shane Ververen and

710
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: Steven Ridley and neither one really did much as a rookie,

711
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: you know, because they were playing behind Benjarvis Greenellis and

712
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: Danny Woodhead. And then in year two they got their shots.

713
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 2: And so I think that's kind of the trajectory. If

714
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm making the bullish case for Damian Harris is a

715
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: guy that you can get pretty late in drafts. That's

716
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: the case is that, you know, we do have the

717
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 2: precedent of the Patriots investing probably way more in a

718
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: running back than they needed to at the time, and

719
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: then basically benching those guys, mothballing them for a year,

720
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: and then giving them opportunity in year two.

721
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 4: Like the one thing with Friedman's kind of two guys, Like,

722
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: I really like the Duke call. And the reason I'm

723
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 4: kind of with you Chris on the Harris is it's

724
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 4: kind of a math problem right when it comes to snaps,

725
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 4: and in Houston, Duke Johnson and David Johnson are going

726
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 4: to be the only two guys getting touches. Buddy Howell

727
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: is going to be active for special teams at the

728
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: third back, and sometimes they have a fullback gap who

729
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 4: doesn't get touches.

730
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 7: So like, just from a probability.

731
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 4: Standpoint, there's just such a better chance of Duke Johnson

732
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 4: emerging in that backfield due to due to injury or

733
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: just due to you know, playing well. Whereas in New

734
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 4: England you have James Dwhite and you have Sony Michelle,

735
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: and you're of Rex birkekead ahead of Harris, and then

736
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 4: you have a situation where like at this point Michelle

737
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,479
Speaker 4: may be the sleeper. And it kind of goes back

738
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 4: to what I said about, you know, Ronald Jones and

739
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 4: why I think the buzz in Tampa is just getting

740
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,959
Speaker 4: a little bit two out of controls because it's kind

741
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 4: of a similar situation where there's three guys and Arians

742
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 4: has kind of, you know, shown that you know a

743
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 4: goombawae or is a guy that he's gonna use in

744
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: pass blocking quite a bit.

745
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 7: They that's the guy they trust.

746
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 4: Then you have the situation of the three tight ends,

747
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 4: so they're not gonna use the tight ends to block.

748
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 4: They're all good pass catchers, and so you just have

749
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: the situation with Jones is receiving upside is gonna be

750
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: capped because you're gonna have you know, him coming out

751
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 4: the most on pass downs and him blocking a lot

752
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: when he isn't on pass downs, whereas Duke has like

753
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 4: this like this great situation where when he's in the game,

754
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: he's gonna be catching the ball, uh the running back

755
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: in front of him. His injury prone and kind of

756
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: just broken at this point, and so just a lot

757
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 4: to like with Duke, and I think the same is

758
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: true of Boston Scott. Not not that any nothing is

759
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 4: wrong with Miles Sanders, but I'm Corey Clement. If you

760
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: just kind of look at the snaps last year and

761
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 4: kind of read between the lines, he was active in

762
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 4: four games, he played sixty something snaps or in three

763
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 4: came on offense, and the rest game on special team.

764
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 4: So that's me and then Boston Scott. He played more

765
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: on offense than he played on special team once he

766
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 4: was active. It kind of shows you what they think

767
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 4: of those two guys. Corey Clement was like two Super

768
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 4: Bowls ago.

769
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: I don't know why I have to end up being

770
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: the stand for Corey Clement, because it's not as if

771
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: I really want to be the thing.

772
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: You're not gonna draft. You're not talking about draft.

773
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about raft.

774
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 3: He's in the mixing in the way.

775
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, yes, it's not in the mix though, Like he

776
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 7: doesn't he didn't play when he was active.

777
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 4: It's not like it's not like he got hurt in

778
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 4: like he was active and didn't play, and then when

779
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: Howard was active and Scott was active, Howard didn't play.

780
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 2: There's an underappreciated chance that Corey Clement comes in and

781
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: takes too much of the usage and then Sanders just evaporates.

782
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: Jones take.

783
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: In terms of the value people think they might be

784
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: getting out of Sanders this year, I'm just saying Corey Clement, like,

785
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: you cannot discount the chaos into might throw that back.

786
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 5: It plays into the you can't trust Doug Peterson, right,

787
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 5: I have no doubt that Corey Clement can potentially go

788
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 5: off any given week. His career best game was Jay

789
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 5: Hi's debut. I mean, that's just that goes into the

790
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 5: Eagles running back situation. So I kind of agree with

791
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 5: Freeman in the case that we don't know. I mean,

792
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 5: core Clement might blow up occasional week, but at this point,

793
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 5: you know, it does seem like bost and Scott is

794
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 5: the guy that they actually trust.

795
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 7: In that number two.

796
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 4: Now, I'm saying it right now so that I get

797
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: the credit when he has zero carries for zero yards

798
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 4: every week, he's acting, all right.

799
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 3: I'm the ones.

800
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 6: I bet I'm the only one of the four of

801
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 6: us who doesn't have Miles Sanders as a first round pick.

802
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 4: So you know, every year and this kind of goes

803
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,359
Speaker 4: into your point about ADP. Chris, there is this part

804
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 4: of ADP where rankings don't do it justice right. So

805
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 4: it's like I have I think, like Austin Eckler as

806
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 4: my RB eight and like in uh like like Jacobs

807
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: or somebody is like my RB fifteen and Sanders like

808
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 4: in fourteen.

809
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 7: And it's like, I have really no difference between those guys,

810
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 7: you know what I mean? But it flat and ADP

811
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 7: is kind of the same thing.

812
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: It's like a lot of questions come up, like who

813
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to get that that running

814
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 4: back wrong, like the end of the first early second round,

815
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 4: and it's like you can't really get it wrong.

816
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 7: Just take one of those guys, Like come on, I mean.

817
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 2: You could get it wrong. You could, you know, take

818
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: the guy who's going to seed carries to Corey Clement.

819
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: That's that's one way.

820
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: Oh oh my.

821
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: God, I'd like to see you though, I mean, I

822
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 6: don't know about the Corey Clement part, but I don't

823
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 6: want I don't want Miles Sanders.

824
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: So let's talk about some potential sleeper wide receivers, Chris,

825
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,919
Speaker 2: anyone who catches your.

826
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 6: I'll start with Deontay Johnson, mid round guy right, which

827
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 6: not late round guy. But there was nobody who coming

828
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 6: out of the film watching process this summer whose rank

829
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 6: I elevated more after the film watching. And Deontay Johnson,

830
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 6: I'm a pretty big fan. I don't know that he's

831
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 6: ever Antonio Brown in Pittsburgh, but I think he could

832
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 6: be t Y Hilton in Pittsburgh. Like he's no one's

833
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 6: gonna complain about the speed. He's very very fast, but

834
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 6: he came into the league with just knowing how to

835
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 6: be open. He's straight ahead fast more than he's like

836
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 6: he's a fine cutter, right, fine open field player, but

837
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 6: not that guy who just gets open with three steps

838
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 6: and you can't literally stay with him, and yet just

839
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 6: seem to know when to settle down. Like a lot

840
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 6: of things that rookies.

841
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: Had struggle with, he didn't really struggle with right away.

842
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: It was funny to watch Diller film last year.

843
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 6: It felt like James Washington was more still the rookie

844
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 6: and Deontay Johnson was more like the polished veteran. So

845
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 6: juju is there and again, if you offer them to

846
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 6: me for the same price, I want juju, but you can't.

847
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 6: You don't I think Juju is probably going too high

848
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 6: for a myriad of reasons, if you'd like to talk

849
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 6: about at some point. So I'll take Deontay Johnson as

850
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 6: like a reserve, as like my wide res here four

851
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 6: or five all day long, you.

852
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: Know, curse. I actually would like the Juju take. What

853
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on Juju?

854
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 6: He's basically being valued pretty close to last year. He's

855
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 6: whereas a lot of people are being punished for their

856
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 6: for their poor performance. Le'Veon Bell is being punished for

857
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: his poor performance, and Juju isn't. And I understand why

858
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 6: Robisk wasn't there.

859
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 3: You know, what are you gonna do? What are you

860
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 3: gonna do?

861
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 6: I've seen other receivers have good seasons. I mean, Kenny

862
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 6: Galladay kept producing after Matthew Stafford was was out. DJ

863
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 6: Moore produced with no Cam Newton and Juju eventually got hurt,

864
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 6: but had a bunch of weeks there where he looked

865
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 6: not very good at football. And uh, there's also the

866
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 6: sense that he's not going to be back, that they

867
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 6: won't be able to afford him. He's going somewhere else.

868
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 6: They may have drafted their replacements already. And then the

869
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 6: conversation we were having about him last year, was coming

870
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 6: off this amazing season as the second banana, not getting

871
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 6: the defensive attention. Could he play outside a little bit more?

872
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 6: I think what we learned was no, like he pretty

873
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 6: much needs to play on the slot. Super fun player,

874
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 6: like I call him Hines Ward Junior. He's like, he's

875
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 6: he's super fun like.

876
00:37:58,800 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 3: I like him a lot.

877
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 6: But it's weird to me that we take some players

878
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 6: results with extenuating circumstances like Le'Veon Bell and we punished

879
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 6: the hell out of them, and then others with extenuating

880
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 6: circumstances and we're just like, oh, we're just gonna Roethlisberger's back. Yeah,

881
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 6: he's gonna be fine, Like, no, no worries at all.

882
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 6: We'll go right back treating him as like wide receiver thirteen,

883
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 6: which I think is too high.

884
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 2: All right, interesting to take there. I like the Deontay

885
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 2: Johnson call, and I do. I mean, you never want

886
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: to compare anyone to an all time great, and Antonio

887
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: Brown is an all time great. But I think there

888
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: are shades of Antonio in the I think kind of

889
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 2: in the way that he plays, and also at the combine,

890
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: it's not as if Deontay Johnson was really all that fast,

891
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: but there's something about the way that he plays. I

892
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 2: think he filled I think he has sort of like

893
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 2: playing speed, and that's similar to Antonio Brown, who didn't

894
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: tear up the combine, but on the field actually looked,

895
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 2: you know, much faster than he timed. And you know,

896
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson, like, you don't want to say that the

897
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: Steeler did it twice, but I mean there's there's a

898
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: chance that they did.

899
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 6: Antonio Brown had like league best speed and league best

900
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 6: quickness in one body, completely uncoverable.

901
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 3: That's really not Deanta Johnson, not yet.

902
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 6: I mean, maybe you could argue Antonio Brown those first

903
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 6: couple of years wasn't Antonio Brown yet. But that's where

904
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 6: I get the t Y Hilton comparison for because you know,

905
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 6: Hilton probably tested faster, but I think they play similarly fast.

906
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 6: And Hilton has never been the dude who dances around

907
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:27,439
Speaker 6: a million people.

908
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: He just sort of he's.

909
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 6: Gonna run like a little incut that turns into an outcut,

910
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 6: and they just somehow aren't with him. And he's opened

911
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 6: twenty five years down the field and catches the missile

912
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 6: at the side like he's just open, you know, And

913
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 6: I feel like that's hopefully what Johnson is.

914
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 4: I think that's actually a great call on Johnson because

915
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: I don't think people are as excited about him. But

916
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: if there's been one kind of edge in fantasy when

917
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 4: it comes to wide receivers, it's that just in an

918
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 4: indiscriminately invest in guys entering year two, and you won't

919
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 4: hit on all of them. Some guys who'll just you know,

920
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 4: you'll be upset. But a lot of them are going

921
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: a lot cheaper than they're upside. They're still kind of

922
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: going in this mid range. So and Deyontay is perfectly

923
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: in that wheelhouse where he's cheap. He's going outside the

924
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: top thirties. You don't really have to draft him as

925
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 4: a starter, And like there is an outside shot that

926
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 4: he could be Antonio Brownish at least in the numbers,

927
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: because as you said, Chris, Juju has struggled as the

928
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 4: number one guy, and I actually love that at that point.

929
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 7: That's a great that's a great point there.

930
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 2: And uh, Chris, any other wide receivers who catch your eye.

931
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 6: So among the rookies right now, Brandon Ayuk struck me

932
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 6: before the San Francisco Carnage before Debo broke his foot

933
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 6: or anything like that. Iok almost struck me as a

934
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel clone in that his adaptation in this weirdest

935
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 6: of years would maybe be a little easier than others

936
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 6: because he's probably not coming into maybe he's never going

937
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 6: to be a technician, like he's not coming in.

938
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 3: He's much more of what Debo is like.

939
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 6: Just get him the ball, figure out a way to

940
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 6: have him run a little five yard cross, get the

941
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 6: ball in his hands and watch out. Let him be

942
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 6: a j Brown, Michael Gallop, Chris Godwin. That kind of

943
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 6: like crusher in the open field. And now that the

944
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 6: depth chart is just like parting like the Red Sea,

945
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 6: you know feels you know, Jalen Herd gets hurt and

946
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 6: Deebo Samuel. They're not really coming out and saying it,

947
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 6: but it seems like he's gonna miss good maybe all

948
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 6: of September, maybe more like we'll.

949
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 3: See Ayuk is cheap.

950
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 6: You don't have to take him to anything close to

951
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 6: his starter, But I'm he's not the rookie receiver who

952
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 6: has the most upside this year or in his career.

953
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 6: But of all of those maybe top seven drafted receivers.

954
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 6: To me, he's the one who I can see having

955
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 6: to make the least jump for what he probably will

956
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 6: eventually wind up being, which will always kind of be

957
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 6: a second banana scary you know, find fine pockets in

958
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 6: the zone. What Chris Godwin has turned into. Godwin's not

959
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 6: a great man beater, but he doesn't need to because

960
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 6: nobody can tackle him in the open field.

961
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you there on Ayuk. I think people

962
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: haven't been quick enough to move him up their rankings

963
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 2: based on the Deebo Samuel injuries and then also just

964
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: injuries to other guys Jalen heard out for the year.

965
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 2: I think they're just a lot of opportunity in the

966
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: wide receiver unit. Sean who stands out to you a

967
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: wide receiver.

968
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 5: So the two sleepers I picked are more boring guys there.

969
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 5: They probably have a higher floor ceiling coma than people realize. So,

970
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, rounds three through six, I'm drafting the high

971
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: upside younger receivers like Calvi Ridley, AJ Brown, Marquise Brown,

972
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 5: Terry mcclaurin, those kind of guys. So I think getting

973
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 5: a guy like Ellen Wizard to sort of fill out

974
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 5: your bench depth at wide receiver sixty two makes sense,

975
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 5: you know with him. You know, we've talked about the

976
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: Packers terrible offseason at length, how they only really added

977
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 5: Devin Funchius and then he opted out. So I think

978
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 5: people just need to realize that Lizard's basically locked into

979
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 5: the number two role. There's questions whether it's going to

980
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,399
Speaker 5: be Krumero or Valdez Gantling as the wide receiver three,

981
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 5: but I mean Rogers trust Blizzard. He already played with

982
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 5: him quite a bit last year, So Lizard will be

983
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 5: entering year three his second year is a full time player.

984
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 5: Raybond just mentioned it. Those are the kind of players

985
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 5: that do kind of break out, and people tend to

986
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 5: overlook that a bit. We still don't know what the

987
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 5: hell's going on with their tight end situation either, so

988
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 5: there's just room for a ton of targets. You're also

989
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 5: betting on a motivated Aaron Rodgers who might be more

990
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 5: willing to throw touchdowns this year. So I think Thozard's

991
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 5: a smart bench stash this year. And the other guy

992
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 5: is Marvin Jones. He's wide receiver thirty six. Right now,

993
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 5: you know what you see is what you get with him.

994
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 5: He's turning thirty this season. He's not the sexiest pick.

995
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 5: Nobody goes into the draft wanting a draft Marvin Jones,

996
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 5: myself included, but he does provide just some stability in

997
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 5: that range. I mean, he was the wide receiver fifteen

998
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 5: weeks one through nine last year in Staffer is healthy,

999
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 5: so you know, if they can continue that chemistry in

1000
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 5: this year, you know he's going to stick out like

1001
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 5: a sort of thumb at wide receiver thirty six. So

1002
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: I would add him as bench depth, and then if

1003
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 5: he gets off to a fast start, he would be

1004
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 5: a guy I'd probably flip for somebody else. But I

1005
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 5: think just getting Marvin Jones at white receiver thirty six

1006
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 5: is criminal right now. And I understand why it is

1007
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 5: because people don't want to be drafting him this year.

1008
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 5: But I'm saying he's a sleeper because he provide value there.

1009
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean a couple of thoughts on this one. I'm

1010
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: with you on Marvin Jones on a points per game basis.

1011
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,759
Speaker 2: He was very close to Kenny Galladay last year. It's

1012
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: not to say that what he did is projectable over

1013
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: the full sixteen games, but they were much closer than

1014
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would give Jones credit for.

1015
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: And then too, Sean, we do know what's happening with

1016
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: the tight end situation for the Great b backers, and

1017
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: I'm sure we will talk about that in a little bit.

1018
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,400
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, Raybon, who are you looking at for

1019
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 2: wide receivers?

1020
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1021
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 4: So I love that con on Marvin Jones too, because

1022
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 4: it goes back to what I talked about with Stafford.

1023
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 4: You know, the scheme change with Bevil and going downfield,

1024
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 4: going from you know, one of the lowest rates in

1025
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 4: the week to the highest, has completely flipped that. Jones

1026
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 4: is going to be pretty predictable because he's a guy

1027
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 4: that historically when he's been on the field, has not

1028
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 4: come off the field at all. Like so in terms

1029
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 4: of like your routes run per dropback, you know, some receivers,

1030
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 4: like even Julio Jones, he'll he'll miss about fifteen percent

1031
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 4: of the plays in a given game. Marvin Jones has

1032
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 4: been out there every single That's why some people are

1033
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 4: worried about Cooper Cup because last year, like I'm not,

1034
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 4: but you know so so Jones is like He's a

1035
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 4: guy that when I do my projections he comes up

1036
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: as like the wide receiver twenty and I think my

1037
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: models like broken, and I'm like wait, and I'm sure, but.

1038
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 6: It's can I just mention that's totally true? He scores touchdowns,

1039
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 6: he has his entire career, he's that dude always lines

1040
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 6: up on the right side. He runs a fly pattern.

1041
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,399
Speaker 6: That dude must run wind sprints all freaking summer because

1042
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,359
Speaker 6: he run. He runs a fly pattern half the time.

1043
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 6: And he's always fast. He's open, he's tall, and he's

1044
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 6: fast like he does when he's out there. He scores,

1045
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 6: he's he has a top ten receiver season in his career.

1046
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: Absolutely, so yeah, I love that call on Marvin Jones.

1047
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 4: You know, I've talked about Will Fuller already. I think

1048
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: he's going too eight in drafts and at the point

1049
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 4: where you really need to take a risk, or you can,

1050
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 4: you should be taking risks. And I think Fuller has

1051
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: you know, top ten in his range of outcomes. I'll say,

1052
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 4: as long as he's healthy, you know, and that's what

1053
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 4: people are gonna worry about. But you know, project, I

1054
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: think miss games beyond like you know, missing like additional

1055
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 4: like two than two more three more than than the

1056
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 4: average you really can't do with any accuracy. So I

1057
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 4: would invest in four. And then there is some of

1058
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: those second year guys you know that that showed a

1059
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: lot of promise last year. You already mentioned Deyontay Johnson,

1060
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 4: Garius Slayton, a guy who, despite what looks like a

1061
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 4: lot of talent in New York, could absolutely lead them

1062
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 4: in air yards. And air yards are the way for

1063
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 4: a lot of these sleeper receivers that you're going to

1064
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 4: outproduce the guys drafted above them that are a little

1065
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 4: bit safer, uh, you know, projected for a little more

1066
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: receiving volume. It's going to be the big plays that

1067
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 4: come with the air yards and kind of getting it

1068
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: all at once and not needing quite as many targets

1069
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 4: to do your damage. So I love the Darius Slayton

1070
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,359
Speaker 4: for that reason. Michael Pittman is a rookie I really

1071
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 4: like in in Indianapolis. I think, you know, we're kind

1072
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 4: of overlooking him a little bit, but he's pretty much

1073
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: going to locked into that that you know, perimeter role on.

1074
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 7: The outside opposite t Y Hilton.

1075
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 4: So he's gonna have a Hilton drawing cutverage, he's gonna

1076
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: have a quarterback in Philip Rivers that while he has

1077
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: struggled kind of like Jameis Winston, you know, with throwing

1078
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 4: some picks, and the coach do have a very easy schedule.

1079
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: I know Sean has talked about that, but he's gonna

1080
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 4: be on the field and he's kind of like that

1081
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: Mike Williams guy for for Rivers. So I think he's

1082
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 4: gonna and he's very talented. I think he's gonna get

1083
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 4: a lot of a chance to to to kind of

1084
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 4: put up similar numbers, like you know, high yards per

1085
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 4: catch and and get in the end zone. You won't

1086
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 4: get a lot of yards after the catch, but you

1087
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 4: could catch it like fifteen twenty yards downfield each time.

1088
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 4: And then McCole Hardman, you know, with the Chiefs just

1089
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 4: number one and Fantasy points.

1090
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 7: For target last year. Amazing opportunity.

1091
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 4: And and you know, I like, I like Sammy Watkins too,

1092
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 4: but Sammy Watkins is kind of their possession guy at

1093
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 4: this point. And and so like the higher upside opportunities

1094
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: tend to fall to two guys like Hardman even though

1095
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: they'll get less targets DeShawn Jackson and Philly and Rager.

1096
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 4: Both of those guys, high air yards guys. If you

1097
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: like Wentz, as Sean mentioned, you should like those guys

1098
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 4: and press. The Williams in Miami actually targeted on a

1099
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: higher basis rate per route run than than DeVante Parker

1100
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 4: when they were both healthy. So uh, you know a

1101
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 4: lot of people like Parker, and I think he's going

1102
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 4: where he should. But Preston Williams is actually the value

1103
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 4: there in Miami. So I him and then like a

1104
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 4: later one and it's more of a full PPR one.

1105
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 4: But with the new coaching regime in Washington and all

1106
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:26,439
Speaker 4: the injuries, I think Steven Stimms actually offers some value

1107
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: because he's probably gonna be there every down. You know,

1108
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 4: he's gonna kind of play in a little inside, little outside.

1109
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 4: You can scheme up some touches to him. He could

1110
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 4: be a guy that just catches like five balls a game,

1111
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 4: just be kind of sheer necessity that we just had

1112
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 4: no what we weren't.

1113
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 7: We didn't even see company Raymont.

1114
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 2: You just talked about like ten guys. I think I

1115
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: TH's like someone at a buffet who's standing behind you

1116
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: in line and just waiting for you to walk through

1117
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: as you just pile more food onto your plate and

1118
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 2: and oh yeah, there's nothing left. There's there's literally nothing

1119
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,240
Speaker 2: left for me to talk about because you've talked about

1120
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 2: all of the wide there's.

1121
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 3: Probably and also probably like seven of them.

1122
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 6: Make sure you only get one, like, don't take all

1123
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 6: of the all of the guys who are Yeah, the

1124
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 6: the yards might look good, the Robbie Anderson yards might

1125
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 6: look at the end of the year, but it's only

1126
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 6: gonna be useful in four games.

1127
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful, Like, I know.

1128
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 4: These are the guys, Like, honestly, these are the guys

1129
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 4: I pointed out are actually because I think they can

1130
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 4: be consistent.

1131
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 7: On a week tw week.

1132
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 6: So like a lot of people, I mean, de Shaun Jackson.

1133
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 6: Just you think Deshaun Jackson can because it's an a

1134
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 6: week week basis.

1135
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 3: Yep.

1136
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 7: Because here's the thing.

1137
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 3: No, no, listen, listen, he's Sean Jackson. Though everything you

1138
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 3: were about to say is not by the fact that

1139
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: his brain doesn't work.

1140
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I can't argue with that, But no, Sean Jackson's

1141
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: or Chris Raybonds.

1142
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 4: We might be on the same lemon and but no, seriously,

1143
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 4: so the reason I mentioned so many guys and the

1144
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 4: reason I chose those guys in particular is because he

1145
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 4: wasn't too much about their early round picks and about

1146
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 4: who to take in like round two and round three,

1147
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 4: and you can't really win the draft those rounds.

1148
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 7: You can lose it.

1149
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 4: But a lot of people start getting sloppy or just

1150
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: not knowing exactly what to do, or you know, just

1151
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 4: kind of a little lost when they get to the

1152
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,320
Speaker 4: later rounds. And so I think it is important to

1153
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,400
Speaker 4: kind of point out these guys that can be ADP

1154
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,400
Speaker 4: and not only be ADP chrits because as it's a

1155
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 4: really good point, and also be consistent. And the reason

1156
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 4: for different reasons I pointed out different guys like Deshaun

1157
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 4: Jackson in Philly.

1158
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 7: The reason I think he can be consistent is because.

1159
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 4: Because you have air yards that are up for grabs, like,

1160
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 4: regardless of the other guys like Ertz and God like,

1161
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 4: you need air and it's it's the same reason why

1162
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 4: a guy like a Kenny Galladay or somebody like that

1163
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,800
Speaker 4: can be consistent in Detroit even though he's not, or

1164
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 4: Tyler Wackett even in Seattle for the most part, is

1165
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: consistent because you're getting high value targets and you know,

1166
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 4: we haven't seen a big sample of Deshaun back in Philly,

1167
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 4: so there's a lot of uncertainty.

1168
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 7: But Alshon Jefferies nowhere to be found.

1169
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: I liked every name that you said.

1170
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 6: There wasn't a single name that you said of the

1171
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 6: buffet that I didn't say, Oh yeah, yeah cool. I

1172
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 6: just wouldn't want people to load up on all those guys, right,

1173
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 6: all that kind of player, all the Mikole Hardman, Jalen Rager,

1174
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 6: DeShawn Jackson, the boom bust week by week guys. And

1175
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,480
Speaker 6: it's possible Mikeel Hardman. We haven't seen enough. I mean,

1176
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 6: we really haven't seen much of Michel Hardman. I mean

1177
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 6: he's he played offense for a month and then he

1178
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 6: played special teams. But I'm I just drafted him earlier

1179
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 6: today NCBs draft. I like ticking Mikael Hardman, maybe partly

1180
00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 6: because it's the unknown of maybe he can transcend the

1181
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 6: feast famine, the DeMarcus Robinson, you know, nonsense where Oh

1182
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 6: my god, I gotta pick him up. Oh he doesn't

1183
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 6: do anything for four weeks in a row. Some of

1184
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,839
Speaker 6: the players that you mentioned probably can't. And Shaun Jackson

1185
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 6: is chief chief of among them, no pun intended.

1186
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 2: Okay, So one guy I want to mention quickly before

1187
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 2: we get to the tight ends, Levis Krischnault, is someone

1188
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: who stands out. He is big, he's fast. If he

1189
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: hadn't been injured at the combine, I think he could

1190
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 2: have been drafted in the first round, and relative to

1191
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 2: all of the guys who were drafted in the first round.

1192
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 2: In college, he was fantastic against uh Man coverage and

1193
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: also uh you know, was at the top of the

1194
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 2: board with three point five yards per route on similar

1195
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 2: to Ceedee Lamb, similar to Jerry Judy. So I think

1196
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 2: there's a lot of untapped potential with Denault given the

1197
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 2: situation in UH in Jacksonville in which they can have

1198
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 2: to throw the ball quite a bit. Okay, for the

1199
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: sake of the producer, he's going to have to edit

1200
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: this show. We're going to be fairly quick when it

1201
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 2: comes to tight ends. And some of the sleepers that

1202
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 2: we want to talk about, Chris, who stands out to you.

1203
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 3: So it's such a silly conversation.

1204
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 6: We can go so fast on tight ends because everyone,

1205
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 6: everyone outside the top six eight whatever has a chance.

1206
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 6: All the young freaky athletic, and none of none of

1207
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 6: us sitting here can be able to tell you who

1208
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 6: it is. But don't take an early tight end because

1209
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 6: there's so many of them and someone's going to turn

1210
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 6: into Darren Waller. So I'll give you like t J.

1211
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 6: Hawkinson and Noah Fant. Those are the two that I

1212
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 6: have tended to wind up with because I like their

1213
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 6: I like what they flashed, I like their ability. But

1214
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 6: you guys are going to say other names too, and

1215
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 6: and I'm going to be fine with every single one

1216
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 6: of them. The point would be like pick your poison,

1217
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: pick one, pick two, depending on your league format, and

1218
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 6: then be ready to bail and try another one because

1219
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 6: because some of them are gonna want a pitting because

1220
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 6: there's so many athletes out there.

1221
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: Tight end, Yeah, Hawkins and both of them have tremendous upside, Sean,

1222
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: who are the guys you were looking at?

1223
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1224
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 5: First off, I agree with Chris. I think that whole

1225
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 5: tier has the league winning potential. And I think that

1226
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 5: the guy that I've been targeting the most out of

1227
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 5: that tier lately has been Dallas Goddard. I think you

1228
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 5: know people, I think they get a bit backwards where

1229
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 5: you know they say zach Ertz limits his ceiling, which

1230
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: is absolutely true. You know, heading into week one, Goddart

1231
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 5: will he'll probably be my tight end twelve to fourteen.

1232
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 5: So yeah, when when Ertz is healthy, Goddard's a low

1233
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 5: end tight end one kind of streamer guy. But when

1234
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 5: Ertz misses time, Goddard's gonna be a potential top five

1235
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 5: tight end. So I think just people get it backwards

1236
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 5: where I think Ertz actually elevates his ceiling because his

1237
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,000
Speaker 5: lack of presence makes him such a you know, a

1238
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 5: league winner that no other tight end has that kind

1239
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 5: of built an upside while also providing you know, low

1240
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 5: end tight end one floor. So that that's why I

1241
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 5: kind of like to load up on Dallas Goddard. The

1242
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 5: other guy that's kind of in a situation like that

1243
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 5: is IRV Smith. So this is for you know, deeper leagues,

1244
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,200
Speaker 5: best ball or you know, just pay attention on the

1245
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 5: waiver wire. But you know, there's a lot of targets

1246
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 5: available now that Diggs is gone, and you know, the

1247
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 5: Vikings run a lot of two tight end sets with

1248
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 5: Irv and Rudolph. Rudolph is much more the blocker now

1249
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 5: and is going to be the pass catching tight end.

1250
00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 5: So he's the kind of guy where entering year two

1251
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 5: he has definitely has breakout potential and could become cousins

1252
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 5: number two target. So I think Ersmith is another guy

1253
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 5: that you should consider in deeper leagues rave on who

1254
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 5: you got.

1255
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,920
Speaker 4: So I do agree with the point that there's something

1256
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 4: like about every one of those tight ends outside the

1257
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 4: top eight, But I disagree that like that makes them

1258
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 4: the optimal Teter draft from because I think that because

1259
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 4: of I can't really differentiate between them. Well at this point,

1260
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 4: it's not valuable to me because I I have to

1261
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 4: compete with Travis Kelcey and George Kittle and Mark Andrews,

1262
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 4: I think with a monster year and a very steadied

1263
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 4: zach Ertz and so I don't want to be like

1264
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 4: swapping in and out tight ends the way I would

1265
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: a quarterback if I went late round quarterback, because quarterbacks

1266
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 4: are a lot more predictable. You can there's you know, however,

1267
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 4: your process is, whether it's just kind of you know,

1268
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 4: looking at the matchups, or it's using you know, your

1269
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 4: your Vegas numbers, or it's you know, whatever you do,

1270
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 4: it's not it's hard to find a quarterback and have

1271
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: a reasonable level of success streaming. But with tight end,

1272
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 4: you know, it's there's so much variance there.

1273
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 7: So like the sleeper to me is the.

1274
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 4: Guy who can like actually you know, not just like

1275
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,240
Speaker 4: finished with like a top eight season that's going like thirteenth,

1276
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 4: but who can actually finish top four and get those

1277
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 4: five catches in game and approximate like a Kelsey or

1278
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 4: or an Ertz. And the only guy that I really

1279
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 4: see that can do that that that sometimes slips is

1280
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 4: is Hayden Hurst because he's going to go into that

1281
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 4: Austin Hooper role where Hooper average five point eight catches

1282
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: the game. And another thing with these tight ends, it's

1283
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 4: just sheer mass.

1284
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:07,399
Speaker 7: It's just routes. Right. A lot of these tight ends

1285
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 7: that we like are on teams that just they have

1286
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 7: decent defenses. The thing just might not throw enough for

1287
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 7: this to be relevant.

1288
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 4: Like I love Johnny Smith, I think he has a

1289
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 4: chance to be like the number two target in Tennessee,

1290
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,720
Speaker 4: but might not get enough you know, routes.

1291
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,439
Speaker 7: Same thing for fan even in Denver.

1292
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: But Hurst the Falcons fifty one times in any other team,

1293
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,440
Speaker 4: and they might not do that quite as much this year.

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Speaker 4: But their defense is still shaky, so they still project

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Speaker 4: to be near the top of the league.

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Speaker 7: So for sleepers, that's.

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Speaker 4: My guy, and you know, obligatory Dan Arnold mentioned for

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Speaker 4: deeper leaks, he's the tight end four that will finish

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Speaker 4: as the low end tight end two.

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Speaker 7: You know, and Will Disney has.

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Speaker 4: Never been bad when he's been on the field, so hey,

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Speaker 4: if he's going to be active League one, I'm just

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Speaker 4: saying DFS showdowns later or something.

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Speaker 7: Man, you know, you know, don't forget Will Disney and

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Speaker 7: see that.

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Speaker 2: All right. One guy I want to mention is Chris Herndon,

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Speaker 2: who was awesome as a rookie just in terms of

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Speaker 2: the production that he had on a per opportunity basis,

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Speaker 2: and then obviously did nothing last year. It was last

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Speaker 2: season due to suspension and then injury, and maybe we

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Speaker 2: see nothing out of him this year because that combination

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Speaker 2: of Adam Gase and Sam Darnold maybe that's just not

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Speaker 2: the combination you want for a young, developing tight end.

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Speaker 2: But I think there's going to be some opportunity in that.

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Speaker 2: After Jamison Crowder in the slot and then after Le'Veon

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Speaker 2: Bell coming out of the backfield, there isn't all that

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Speaker 2: much established target competition Denzel Mims as a rookie coming in,

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Speaker 2: he might not be able to catch on and he's

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Speaker 2: been dealing with injuries. For Shad Perryman coming from Tampa Bay,

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Speaker 2: maybe it takes him a while to really learn the offense.

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Speaker 2: So I think there's opportunity there for Herndon, And he

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Speaker 2: at least has some sort of prior connection with Sam Donald,

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Speaker 2: so he's someone available late that I am looking at. All. Right, Chris,

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Speaker 2: what do you have going on at Harris Football that

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Speaker 2: people should check out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, harrisl dot com.

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Speaker 6: You can see ranks, you can see you do five

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Speaker 6: podcasts a week because I'm crazy. Once the season starts,

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Speaker 6: I will be watching every single game because I'm crazy

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Speaker 6: and talking about every single game.

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Speaker 3: On the show and what I saw and what I

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Speaker 3: think it means.

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Speaker 6: We have YouTube channel, so we also break down a

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Speaker 6: lot of film on what happened and why a person

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Speaker 6: is or isn't can continue hot streak or or be

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Speaker 6: a good waiver add or whatever.

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Speaker 3: And if everything's at harrisfootball dot.

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Speaker 2: Com all right, and you can follow Christopher on Twitter

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Speaker 2: at Harris Football. On our next NFL episode will break

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Speaker 2: down our favorite season long player props for twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Keep an eye out for that. You can follow Sean,

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Speaker 2: Chris and Me in the Action Network app, at the

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Speaker 2: Underscore odds maker Chris Raymond, and at the Oracle. Please

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Speaker 2: subscribe to and rate interview the show, and listen and

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Speaker 2: download on Spotify. See you again next episode. We're finished

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