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Speaker 2: This is resar On Jenkins and you're listening to the

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Speaker 2: Charges podcast network. Well, football is inching closer. We're getting

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Speaker 2: closer to training camp, and I could be more pleased

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Speaker 2: to have front of the podcast Jeff Miller Los Angeles

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Speaker 2: Times with me as we get ready, Jeff, just talking offline.

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Speaker 2: It'll be nice to finally see the guys on the grass,

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Speaker 2: but it may take a little bit longer than a

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Speaker 2: typical training camp.

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Speaker 1: It sure sounds like it, and just what we need

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Speaker 1: to be told it be more patient, right, That's all

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Speaker 1: we need. Everybody needs to be told that. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we've been patient for how many months?

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Speaker 2: It's a theme of twenty twenty patients.

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Speaker 1: It really is. But yeah, it sounds like it's going

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Speaker 1: to be a little while before we see anything. But

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Speaker 1: at least, as you said, we're inching, we're inching closer,

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Speaker 1: which is a good time we are.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we've talked all off season about some

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Speaker 2: of the free agent editions, the rookie editions. There's a

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Speaker 2: lot to talk about in terms of position groups, position battles,

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Speaker 2: certain guys that you're looking forward to to seeing on

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Speaker 2: the field. Let's just start with some of your overall

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Speaker 2: views going into training camp, But what are you most

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Speaker 2: excited about in terms of what you're going to see

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Speaker 2: on the field, whether it's specific players, position groups, whatever,

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Speaker 2: you think, Well, we start where football starts, at the quarterback,

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Speaker 2: and I think we're all we're all excited to not

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Speaker 2: only see what Justin Herbert can do, but to see

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Speaker 2: what Tyrod.

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Speaker 1: Taylor can do. And he I think everybody anticipates ty

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Speaker 1: Rod is going to be the starter going into the season,

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Speaker 1: and if all things go well with this team, he

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Speaker 1: could be the starter all season. And if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: that means the Chargers are playing well, he's playing well,

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Speaker 1: they're winning, and so that is the first place you go, obviously,

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Speaker 1: is it's going to be very different. It's funny, it's

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Speaker 1: almost forgotten now. It will come up, I'm sure a

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Speaker 1: but then it's going to go away completely. And that's

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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is no longer here. And after fourteen seasons

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Speaker 1: of being having nobody other than Phillip starting games for

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Speaker 1: this team, it's you sort of forget the fact that

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Speaker 1: it's going to be you know, that first game, Lord

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Speaker 1: Willing it's Week one that's on the schedule right now.

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Speaker 1: It's there is going to be a different quarterback for

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Speaker 1: this team, and so that's exciting. And I think just

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Speaker 1: Chris in general, if you talk to people around the league,

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Speaker 1: I think the thought is that this team is a

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Speaker 1: lot better than a five win team if they were

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Speaker 1: last year. Their roster is a lot better than a

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Speaker 1: down to if they can block upfront. I think this

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Speaker 1: I think that is a reason for people to be

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Speaker 2: So many one score losses last year, the turnovers were

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Speaker 2: a stat Jeff called fumble luck. Charges were thirty second

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Speaker 2: does the twenty nineteen season look like? Right, There's so

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Speaker 2: many different things that kind of went against the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: You talk about injuries, you talk about the Melvin Gordon

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Speaker 2: in games, latent games. That's the difference between winning five

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Speaker 1: And I don't fans probably get tired of hearing that

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Speaker 1: It's not trying to justify anything. It's just that's how

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Speaker 1: it every week, and then it's that way with all

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Speaker 1: Yeah, those those two are those are two veteran guys

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Speaker 2: When you look at last year or too, Jeff, sometimes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's going to be vastly different. And

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Speaker 1: what's interesting, Chris is a bunch of people I've talked

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Speaker 1: it's designed for Tyrod to take off. And so that

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Speaker 1: So I agree with you completely. I think it's a

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Speaker 2: That left tackle, I think is the competition. I remember

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's definitely a position you mentioned. Left tackle

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Speaker 2: It may be the most competitive position group. When you

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Speaker 2: What's great about that is, yeah, you have the individual pieces,

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Speaker 2: but it has to stick with them what happened last year,

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Speaker 2: you know, to to win five games and to not

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Speaker 2: let's just show up and go. These guys have to

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely. And I would think especially a guy

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Speaker 1: probably you know, he can't wait to get out there

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Speaker 1: Things were pointing. The era was definitely pointing up. They

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Speaker 1: then things didn't work out. Well, this is a totally

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Speaker 1: It's and so I think, uh, you know, again everything

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Speaker 1: it's it seems like for a different, different reason, zero

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Speaker 2: Jeff Miller, La times. Uh, it's always a pleasure, man.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to do this in person, socially distant,

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Speaker 2: of course, maybe with some little pickle at uh at

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Speaker 1: I am ready for that at any moment, believe me.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, hopefully, hopefully we'll be uh, we'll all be

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Speaker 1: enjoying little pickle, and we'll be enjoying football and we'll

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Speaker 1: actually be able to watch and stuff, and hopefully it'll

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Speaker 1: be happening sooner than later. But again, patients, we have

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Speaker 1: to continue to have our have our all pro our

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Speaker 1: at right now.

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Speaker 2: Listen, players, coaches, staff, media, fans, patients, the board.

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Speaker 1: That is the and unfortunately it's it's gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be for a couple more weeks probably.

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Speaker 2: Jeff, thanks so much, man, I appreciate you anytime. Thanks

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Speaker 2: all right, that's gonna do it for us, big thanks

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Speaker 2: to Jeff Miller and of course thanks to you guys.

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Speaker 2: For listening. We're getting closer to training camp, Excited for

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty season, Excited to bring you podcasts every

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Speaker 2: week here on Charges weekly, maybe even twice or three

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Speaker 2: times a week during training camp. So keep in locks

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Speaker 2: of the Chargers podcast Network, have a great weekend, and

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Speaker 2: until next time, I'm Chris Heyre