1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know Frondhouse Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,959 Speaker 1: Clark with Charles W. Chuckers Bryant and Jerry Jerome Role. 4 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: And uh, it was the Wookie mother. Yeah, Mala, that 5 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: was the Wookie wife. Oh and mother. Yeah sure, Chebacca's 6 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: mom is not with them any longer. She left. She 7 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: was not about to appear in that. She went out 8 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: the window. I'm excited about this. I have to say 9 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: we should say Happy Star Wars Day. Yeah, today is 10 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 1: um December. Um, I have my opening night tickets? Do 11 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: you really sure? Wow? You know? I do you into it? Oh? Yeah, 12 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: well I will definitely go see it in the theater, 13 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: but um, why won't be the opening night? Sure, I've 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: got I'm really adept at like ignoring spoilers, people talking 15 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: about stuff all like, so I can I could conceivably 16 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: see this movie a month after it comes out and 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: still going fresh. I'm an ostrich. Yeah you black yourself out, Yeah, 18 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: you go dark. I moved myself go to sleep, faith, 19 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: you go to the dark side. I've been there a 20 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: while now. Uh, well, Happy Star Wars Day, though, I'm 21 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: sure that I think this pairs nicely with Christmas. Star 22 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: Wars Day. It's all come together. Yes, Um, we already 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: missed Life Day though, so happy belated Life Day. Are 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: they celebrating it this year? No? Yeah, but it's every 25 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: three years. Mm hmm our cane man, nice job. Okay, 26 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: so it's every three years, started in nine eight. Let's 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: do the math, shall we? Mm hmmm, quick math break. 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I believe that two thousand fourteen was the last Life Day. Man, 29 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: we just missed, and then again in seventeen. Okay, soeen 30 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: we'll celebrate Life Day. Will put on our red robes, 31 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: are ultralong, straight ironed wigs, and we'll celebrate Life Day 32 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: the way it was meant to. And if you have 33 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: no idea what we're talking about, we are talking about 34 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: Life Day, which is a celebration, uh that wookies in 35 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: the Star Wars universe have every three years. Yeah, it's 36 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: like their Christmas or their Quanta. Supposedly, it's sort of 37 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: like Earth Day too. They celebrate the diversity of their 38 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: ecosystem and also remembrance of the dead, and they also 39 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: give the gifts the fins. Basically, yeah, it's a it's 40 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: a very interesting part of the Star Wars canon. It is, 41 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: and it's almost entirely made up, dashed off you could 42 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: possibly say, by um George Lucas in the seventies. Um. 43 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: And it's the basis of what is become derided as 44 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: like one of the worst things that ever happened to 45 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: the Star Wars galaxy. Well, not only that, one of 46 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: the worst things ever aired on television. Yeah, this galaxy. Yeah, 47 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: at first that sounds like hyperbole, like, come on, it's 48 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: because it was Star Wars. We had high expectations. But 49 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: it's really that bad. Yeah. The people who say that 50 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: haven't seen even a second of it. Yeah, however, I 51 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: watched it, uh when I was a kid, then again 52 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: this week, and you watched it twice this week. Yeah, 53 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: I watched it last night and this morning. There's something 54 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: about it. It's mesmerizing, it really is. It's one of 55 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: those things that you start watching it and you want 56 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to turn it off, but you want to see just 57 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: how absurd it can get. Almost Yeah, and it starts absurd, 58 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: it stays absurd. In the middle, it's increasingly more absurd, 59 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: it's a little less absurd, finishes super absurd. Yeah, it's 60 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: just a train wreck in every single sense of the 61 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: word to bottom. It's extraordinarily difficult to overstate how bad 62 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: this is. And some people have, you know, in researching this, 63 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 1: you read about it, you read descriptions of these things, 64 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 1: and it just can't possibly be gotten across until you 65 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: see it. So luckily, as we will see, you can 66 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: go onto YouTube and watch it, and you may even 67 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 1: enjoy this episode more if you pause, go spend two 68 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: hours watching this thing and then come back and laugh 69 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: along with us. Yeah, there's a great Over the years, 70 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: there have been many segments of it on YouTube from 71 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: badly VHS tapes, but there's one really pretty good version 72 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: of it in full UM brought to you by w 73 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 1: h I O Dayton, Ohio, channel seven. Because that flashes 74 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: up on the screen periodically. Man, it is high quality. 75 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: It looks good, and it has to basically be the 76 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 1: copy that the actual UM affiliate broadcast. It's like that 77 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: that quality compared to the other stuff floating around on YouTube, 78 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: clearly recorded on the r which we're really expensive, very expensive. 79 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 1: I did some calcula aiding on west Egg okay, UM, 80 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: so the average VCR went for about a thousand dollars. 81 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: There were brand new it's amazing thousand dollars in nine money, 82 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: so they're about thirty eight hundred dollars in two thousand 83 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: fourteen money. Luckily, there were some rich people out there 84 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: recording this stuff, and the wealthy have saved us all 85 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: again yet again, as they always do. We need to 86 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: shout out some articles that we used for this. There's 87 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: great a great article in Vanity Fair called the Han 88 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: Solo Comedy Our exclamation Point by Frank did Jacomo. And 89 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: then there's uh, the Star Wars Holiday Special was the 90 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: worst thing on television ever by so when we kind 91 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: of know Alex Pasternack uh from Motherboard, yeah, which is 92 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: uh not wired, it's uh vice. We wrote a little 93 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: bit for Motherboard back then, and we had a call 94 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: that like we're like old Motherboard vets basically, and when 95 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: they're one more, there was another one and I don't 96 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: know who wrote this one, chuck Uh, Yeah, it's the 97 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: the titles the Star Wars Holiday Special. George Lucas wants 98 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: to smash every copy of with a sledgehammer, which was 99 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 1: a famous quote, uh supposedly at a convention by Lucas, yes, 100 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: which is not correct. He didn't ever say that. No, 101 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: Okay that that sounded like something that people made up. Yes, 102 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: but if you go on the internet, you will quickly 103 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: believe that he did better. Apparently didn't. So let's I'm 104 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: sure he felt that way though, clearly because he did 105 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: appear on Robot Chicken and I think two thousand five 106 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: on the therapist couch talking about how much he hated 107 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: this special. Alright, so let's set the background, shall we 108 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Shall we go back to summer, getting the old way 109 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: back machine. All right, let's do it all right here 110 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: we are, there's Waterson. Yeah, I'm just a little six 111 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: year old excited about Star Wars. I am. I've just 112 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: turned one. Yes, you don't know what's up yet. I 113 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: please forgive me if I urinate myself, no problem. Okay, 114 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: So what has happened is Star Wars has become a huge, 115 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: huge hit, seemingly out of nowhere, establishing George Lucas is 116 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: one of the brilliant young minds and filmmaking, even though 117 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,239 Speaker 1: when his first movie it was his first huge, huge 118 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: breakout hit. Oh yeah, for sure, talk I mean talk 119 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: about a breakout hit like no one had ever seen 120 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: anything like it before. Two thousand one had come out 121 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: in the late sixties, but it wasn't it's still it 122 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: still isn't accessible to all audiences. You know, it's of 123 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: cerebral film. Yeah, it's not an adventure movie. This was 124 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 1: This is like basically swashbuckling on the screen. But you know, 125 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: in a galaxy far far away. Star Wars just changed 126 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: everything and it came on just like a hammer. Um, 127 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: there's a new hope by the way, yes, and then 128 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: then we're gonna get stuff wrong, nerds, So yes, just 129 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: go ahead and get your little fingers ready to email us, 130 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: like if it wasn't driven home that I'm not a 131 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: nerd by the fact that I don't have opening night 132 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: tickets or any tickets yet, give me a break, and 133 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: by proxy chuck to Okay. So, um, it's it's hard 134 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: to stay how great Star Wars was in everyone's mind, right. 135 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: Bill Murray came out with that lounge singer Star Wars thing. 136 00:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: It was everywhere and if you if you just listen 137 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: to the lyrics of it, he's really it's just Bill 138 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: Murray singing about how much Star Wars is awesome. Right. 139 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: So by the following year, Um, George Lucas was he 140 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: wanted to figure out a way to keep audiences just 141 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: engaged with the whole Star Wars franchise that he was 142 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: just starting to build. But he knew the Empire Strikes 143 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: Back was a couple more years out, so um he 144 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: I think he was approached by some TV executives who said, 145 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: have you considered doing some sort of TV special? They're 146 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 1: all the rage right now. We have a we have 147 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:52,320 Speaker 1: a graphic that's really awesome that we set aside just 148 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: for TV specials here at CBS. Why don't you let 149 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: us let's get together and do a Star Wars special. 150 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: That's right. Producers Gay R. Smith and Dwight him me on, Uh, 151 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: we're working over at CBS, and they said, this is 152 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: a great way to keep the spirit alive while you're 153 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: making your other movie. Maybe move some more toys, yeah, 154 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: which George Lucas got. So it was right before Thanksgiving, 155 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: and he said, there'll be a lot of people watching 156 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: TV um pre holiday season or I guess in the 157 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: holiday season. Well, the weekend before Thanksgiving, it's like everybody's shopping, 158 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: sitting around family like waiting to actually do stuff. That's right, 159 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 1: perfect time to broadcast something on TV. So Lucas says, 160 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: all right, let's do this. I don't have a ton 161 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: of time, but how about this. I'll get I'll get 162 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: a story together, and then you can go hire a 163 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: whiz bang team of of veteran writers and producers and 164 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: directors whatever genre you think is appropriate. And those are 165 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: the words that will haunch on George Lucas to his grave. Yeah, 166 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 1: so Lucas said, here's my idea. I wanted to be 167 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: based um on Wookies, and I wanted to take place 168 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: on home planet of Kazook or Wookie planet. See. Is 169 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: that you say ka zook? That's how it's pronounced in 170 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: the episode the Holiday Special, but it's also pronounced different ways. 171 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Other times. I would have pronounced that cashi e e 172 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: got spell it k A s h y y y k, 173 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: which I mean. I guess that sounds like Chewbuck's planet sure, 174 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: also called G five Wookie planet see or Eaton is 175 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: a mid rim planet. Right. So the whole reason, apparently 176 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 1: that George Lucas was interested in featuring the Bookies was 177 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: it is what we in show business call low hanging fruit. 178 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,839 Speaker 1: The reason why it was low hanging fruit was because 179 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: they had just established the different scenes that would make 180 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: the cut for Empire Strikes Back, and uh, what how 181 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: did you pronounce it? Again? Kazook. Kazook had not made 182 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: the cut. Uh. Even prior to this, apparently for a 183 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: new hope, George Lucas had whipped up a forty page 184 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: what's known is the Wookie Bible. It's like a forty 185 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: page supplement that's all about Kazook and Wookies and Chewbacca 186 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: and his family and everything about wookie. Um. Right, so 187 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: he's like, I've got this thing already. You know established 188 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: I love Wookies. Um, they didn't make the cut. I'm 189 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: a little sad about that. They're not gonna Kazook is 190 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: not gonna show up in an Empire Strikes Back. Let's 191 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: let's build the entire special around Wookies. It's basically the 192 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: one demand me George Lucas has. That's it. I'll be 193 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: totally hands off from this point on which kind of 194 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: was He totally wasn't. It was actually this experience that 195 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: apparently taught him to be the very hands on person 196 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: that he is famous for being. It came out of 197 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: this Christmas special. Absolutely he was burned, and um, he 198 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: was iron grip after that on everything. So here's some 199 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: some of the folks behind it. Bruce Balanche, famous uh 200 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: TV writer. You've probably seen him on Hollywood Squares. Wasn't 201 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 1: he suspected of being Thomas pinch On for a while, 202 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: So I don't know, or was Thomas pinch On on 203 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: Hollywood Squares? I have no idea. I may be confabulating 204 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: some stuff confounding. Yeah, there's some con of some sort 205 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: going on that sounds like it. So Valanche was hired 206 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: as a writer. A guy named Lenny RiPPs was hired 207 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: as a writer, who has some great quotes in that 208 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: Vanity Fair article he does. His first quote was, we 209 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: were really excited because this is Star Wars. How could 210 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: it lose? Famous last words? Who else was hired? There 211 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: was a husband and wife team, the welch Is, who 212 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: are the parents of of folk singer Gillian Welch. I'm 213 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: a big fan of and I had no idea that 214 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: her parents. They were producers slash songwriters of the day. 215 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: They were big on the variety show scene, which would 216 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: turn out to be a really key cog in this 217 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: whole experience. So I feel like, right about here, Jerry 218 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: should insert a needle coming off of our record sound effect. Okay, 219 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: thanks Jerry, So Chuck, you just said singer songwriters. What 220 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: would that have to do with Star Wars. Yeah, well, actually, 221 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: in this Star Wars holiday special for those of you 222 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: hadn't seen it, there are musical numbers. They decided from 223 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: the outset that there should be musical numbers. And the 224 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: reason that they decided that there should be musical numbers 225 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: is because the people who sold George Lucas, and at 226 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: the time it was started, the Star Wars Corporation was 227 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: what it was called um On. The idea of doing 228 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: this TV special was that everyone would love a variety show. 229 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Great idea, Let's do a variety show. The problem was this, 230 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 1: Apparently George Lucas didn't watch enough TV and he also 231 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: overly trusted people who talked to him because by yes, 232 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: variety shows had dominated television for over ten years, but 233 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: it had come to an end. It was getting stale. Yeah, 234 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: we're talking to Carol Burnett show. One of my favorite 235 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: had just been canceled for eleven season. Sunny and Chair 236 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: had just had its last season. Yeah, I mean what else, 237 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: like he Hall was he I was still going on 238 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: probably think still on solid golden yet to come on 239 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: and take up the mantel that that would never write 240 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: a show. Oh, it was a little bit and there 241 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: was talking in between the songs. Remember the Mandrell's Sister show. 242 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: I never watched that one. Well, it was with that 243 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: country chic thing that happened. It was a big deal 244 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: in the It's kind of happening again. I think, oh, 245 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: because of that dude, the guy who won all the 246 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 1: c m A Awards. I don't know, he's like, he's 247 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: he came along. He's like, actually country. His dad's like 248 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: a coal miner for real from Kentucky. I think something. Yeah, 249 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: he's come along and been like, what are you guys doing? Well, 250 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: there's a revival in like good country music. Again, that's 251 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: like in the tradition of Merle Haggard and and I 252 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: guess that's probably where the country sheet came from, because 253 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: there was actually good country going on. Yeah, Johnny Cash 254 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: at a variety show. I knew they did like a 255 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Sunday singing thing like out in Virginia. Yeah, he had 256 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 1: his own variety show. Was actually pretty good. There's some 257 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: like really great performances. Do you know how many nerds 258 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: are like get back to start war? I know, I'm 259 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: so sorry. Alright, So the Variety Show is is dying 260 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: sort of, and so they figured, what a great time 261 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: to take the biggest movie property on the planet and 262 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: wedge it into the Variety show milieu. I don't know 263 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: if wedge is the right word. I think maybe uh 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: nestle it in there and then start hitting it with 265 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: the blunt edge of an axe until it mashes into 266 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: that crevice. You know. That's because this is the time 267 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: when Fantasy Island had just started, um Mork and Mindy 268 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: was about to change things. Charlie's Angels was getting huge. 269 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: It basically television as we knew it from two whenever 270 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 1: the real world came along. Just escape as television is 271 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: what they called it was was starting and it was 272 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: the hip new thing. So basically, if they had turned 273 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: Han Solo and Princess Leiah and Luke Skywalker into maybe 274 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, sexy detectives, it might have gone over even better. 275 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: But they went the other way. They decided to latch 276 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: onto this extraordinarily stale um genre of television, and they 277 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: hired the best in the business, like there was there was. 278 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: There was a quote from I think Lenny RiPPs, who 279 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: was saying like we had literally a dream team, a 280 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: variety show dream team, and everybody was good, but there 281 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: were probably no bad welders on the Titanic. He there, 282 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: that's a great quote. Yeah. The guy they hired to 283 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: direct it initially was a dude named David A. Coomba, 284 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 1: and he had made his name, uh for Welcome to 285 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: the fillmore East. It was a concert documentary with Van 286 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: Morrison Van Morrison and the Birds in nineteen seventy one, 287 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: and he actually was at usc Film School at the 288 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 1: same time as Lucas, even though they didn't know each other. 289 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: And um, he only ended up directing about three segments 290 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: of the thing before he quit, yea, before he walked off. 291 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 1: Some say he was actually let go, but we'll get 292 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: to him in a minute and who replaced him. As 293 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: as we get along down this uh gross road, well, 294 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: let's let's take a little break because I'm I'm overly excited. Okay, okay, alright, 295 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 1: so we've established most of the main players. We'll we'll 296 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: get to a few more. We should point out that um, 297 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: Mark hamill And and Harrison Ford and Carrie Fischer, Peter Mayhew, 298 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: they had no grounds to refuse to be on this basically, yeah, 299 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: pretty much. They were not huge, huge stars, yet they 300 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: could throw their weight around and say this is terrible 301 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: and I'm not doing it. They were. They were big 302 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 1: overnight because of Star Wars, for sure, but they weren't 303 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: to the adoring public back at the studio. They could 304 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: still be bossed around. And this is the result of it. 305 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: And you can tell also, um, just from watching the 306 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: actual special, Like Harrison Ford is not happy to be 307 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: there at any point, Um, Princess Leiah is clearly on drugs. Uh. 308 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: Was she on drugs at this point? She? If you 309 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: watch it, she's she's on drugs. Especially the ending scene. 310 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: Mark Campbell, it looks like he's happy to be there. 311 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 1: Actually he was fine, but apparently he said no, I'm 312 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm not doing a musical number. And if you watch 313 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: his part, wedging a musical number in there would have 314 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: been even more painful. Um. But they everybody who was 315 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: part of the actual Star Wars franchise that wasn't wearing 316 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: like a full body costume was like, I really wish 317 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: I wasn't here, And you can tell. Yeah. In fact, 318 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: in the opening uh credit sequence, they're showing the picture 319 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: that you know the faces of the people, and you 320 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: see Harrison Ford as if he's flying the Millennium Falcon, 321 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 1: and you can you can just hear the guy off 322 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: screen going, now, look at the camera and just give 323 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: a nod. Just look at the camera and give a nod. 324 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: And he finally you can tell he's piste off and 325 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: he looks up at the camera and just sort of 326 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,960 Speaker 1: smirks yeah, and points at the camera like Okay, I'm 327 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: looking at the camera, and then to what he's doing. Yeah, 328 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: it's pretty awesome. I felt bad for him so early 329 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: on Valanche and others did. Did you feel bad for him? Though? Really? 330 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: I mean, like, come on, it's Harrison Ford's Hans Solo. 331 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: He has to go do this for like five days. Yeah, 332 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: I felt terrible for him. I think it's hilarious that 333 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: they had to do this, especially now. Well, early on 334 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: Valanche and others knew that they may be in trouble 335 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: because they decided not to subtitle any of the Wookie dialogue, 336 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 1: and they literally started after a brief opening scene setting 337 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: it up here. Here's the basic plot is Han Solo 338 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: is trying to get Chewbacca back to Kazook time for 339 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: life day so we can celebrate with his family. That's 340 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: the basis of the entire two US bases. The entire 341 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: two hours. They encounter a space battle and they're delayed, 342 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: and the next two hours are kind of what's going 343 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: on while the delay is happening. Back back on Kazook 344 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: because you hear, like, okay, well, Han Solo and Chewbacca 345 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: evading the Imperial Guard and all that stuff for two hours. 346 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: I would watch that. I would too. That's not what 347 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: they show. Killing time at the Wookie household, that is 348 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: what they show. That's what they do. It's people hanging 349 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: out waiting for Chewbacca, worrying about him, and then killing 350 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: time while they wait for him to come back. Literally, 351 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: so um and so hold on. So you say there's 352 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: a setup, right, Yeah, that's the initial setup and then chuck. 353 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: That's followed by this. Yeah, it's followed by literally ten minutes, 354 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 1: ten solid minutes of incomprehensible Wookie speak. So let's let's 355 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: join it for a second, shall we. Yeah, let's all 356 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 1: enjoy it. And again, you said ten minutes, and you're 357 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: not exaggerating, you're not being hyperbolic. You can time it. 358 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: That's it's ten minutes. Of Bookie's talking to each other 359 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,639 Speaker 1: with no subtitles. Fortunately, I couldn't follow it at first, 360 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: Like I didn't even know who it was. I thought 361 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 1: it was might have been Chewbacca's mom and dad. Oh yeah, 362 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: that's a little brother. And I don't find out until 363 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: later when Mark Campbell shows up via skype call and says, 364 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: he really explains everything that had just happened, Like, you're 365 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: Chewbacca's father, Itchy, you'r Chewbacca's son, uh Lumpy Lumpy, and 366 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: you're Chewbacca's wife. Oh yeah, thank you. So before everybody 367 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: starts like freaking out, we know that that's actually their nicknames. 368 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Their real names are. His father is h a ti 369 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: chick cook, a tchick cook, it's really hard to pronounce. 370 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Mulatto Buck is his wife, and his son is lump 371 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: O war Rump but as named by Lucas. But yeah, 372 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: but Lucas also named him Lumpy Itchy and Mala so um. 373 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: They're all back there wringing their hands, trying to figure 374 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 1: out ways to pass the time until they get word 375 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 1: from Chewbacca that he's made it to uh what is it, 376 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: ketchuck kaz kazook Um just Ketchup, Ketchup or cats up 377 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: if you're fancy. Um. But Chewbacca is having trouble getting 378 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: back to Ketchuk because there's Kazook, because there's a blockade 379 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: by the Empire and they're looking for rebels, specifically Chewbacca. 380 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: Who I didn't realize this. He's the most famous Wookie 381 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: of all. Did you know that? Yeah, of course I 382 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: didn't know that. Well, I mean he's the only one 383 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: that really appears in the movies. I mean, but we're seeing, like, 384 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: you know, these people's view of the universe. What about 385 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: back on Kazook. He might have just been a fly 386 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: by night wookie, right, yeah, but not the case very 387 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: famous wookie. Yeah, and he really loved it, like soak 388 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 1: in his fame. Alright, So he realizes there's a problem Valanche. 389 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: He goes to Lucas and it's like, I don't know, man, 390 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: this is your world, but may not be the strongest 391 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: thing to do to set this in wookie Land and 392 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: have all this comprehensible dialogue. And he says he was 393 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 1: met with a glacial stare. Uh. Well he put it 394 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: a little differently than that. Well, he said glacial stair. 395 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: He did the glacial stair that he got was for 396 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: this quote. He said, these people just talk and what 397 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: sounds like fat people having an orgasm. He goes, if 398 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: you want, you can set up a tape recorder in 399 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: my bedroom and I'll do all of the follying for it. Yeah. 400 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 1: He's a large guy, he is, so uh that's what 401 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: got the glacial stare. But Valanche later said that from this, 402 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 1: there was one development meeting that Lucas attended and it 403 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: was here's the Wookie Bible, tell me what you got. 404 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: And Valanche said he and the other writers and producers 405 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: and director were just kind of throwing ideas and George 406 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: Lucas would either say like, no, that doesn't work, give 407 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: him a glacial stare, or say yes, that's exactly it. Yes, 408 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: let's make this a variety show. Yeah. And there was 409 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of um background there. The cantina players 410 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: in the band had appeared on other variety shows at 411 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 1: that point, and I think it went over fairly well, 412 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: just as a short segment on like the Richard Pryor 413 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 1: Variety Show or Donnie Marie um Man. There were a 414 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: lot of variety shows. But that's what I'm saying. It 415 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: was that was television. That's what you did. Like them. 416 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: The the show had its course and then it became 417 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: a variety show. It was just everybody love variety shows. Yea. 418 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: By this time, though, everybody was sick of variety shows, 419 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: and so it really was a terrible choice. In fact, 420 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,479 Speaker 1: they even hired a couple of writers from Shields and Yarnell, 421 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: which I hadn't heard of. Oh yeah, I watched it. 422 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: It was creepy, this mind couple who had their own 423 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: variety show, and they figured these two will be great 424 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: because they are used to working without words, right, So, 425 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: and so there is a certain logic to the variety show. 426 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: It's not just all over the such, just that variety 427 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: shows were popular at the time. Somebody was like, well, 428 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: Wookie's you don't understand what they're saying. So this is 429 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: all going to be very physical. So these people who 430 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: who did what is it Shields in Yard, Now, yeah, 431 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 1: that that's a perfect choice. That that makes complete sense. 432 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: You can see this whole, this whole process of leading 433 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: up to the point where it was produced and shot 434 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: and everything a series of like, oh we have this problem, 435 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 1: Well here's a fix, but that leads to another problem. Well, 436 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 1: we'll fix it with this, and and no one stepping 437 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: back and being like, all we've done is create a 438 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,919 Speaker 1: series of problems that are going to come together and 439 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: make one extraordinarily large problem that will become legendary. No 440 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: one did that, and so the whole thing was was made. 441 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: That's right, and eventually airs on November seventy eight, a Friday, 442 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: at eight pm Eastern Time, and Nielsen ratings it attracted 443 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: thirteen million viewers, lost the set an hour just in 444 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: the US. It aired in six or seven countries total. Yeah, 445 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: but no one cares about that, I guess not because 446 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: none of those are on the internet. Uh. It finished 447 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: second to the Love Boat in the second I'm sorry 448 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: from eight to nine, and in the next hour actually 449 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: finished behind part two of a mini series about Pearl 450 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: Harbor starring Angie Dickinson. So it didn't even win their 451 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: respective hours. No, thirty million, that's that's not bad. The 452 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: thing is, apparently, if you look at the Nielsen ratings 453 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: graph for the first hour, Yeah we know about that graph. 454 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: It's okay, Yeah, we do. And then after a very 455 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: important part which we'll talk about soon. Um, it just 456 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: drops off at the end of the first hour, and 457 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: that actually probably made the executives at CBS cringe for 458 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: a number of reasons. Number one is this special was 459 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: originally supposed to just be an hour, but so many 460 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: advertisers wanted to sign on that they extended it to 461 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 1: two hours. And it shines through. You can totally tell 462 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: that this thing was never supposed to be. I think 463 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: an hour might have been stretching it. To tell you 464 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: the truth, it's thirty minutes of content, forty if you're generous, 465 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: an hour, and in two hours it becomes one of 466 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: the worst things that was ever put on television. All right, 467 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: well let's take a break and then we'll talk a 468 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: little bit more about the actual Um even I don't 469 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: want to call it content, but it is content in 470 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: the strictest definitions. Right after this, alright, so the show itself, 471 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 1: we've given you the main plot line, which again is 472 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: that Chewy is trying to get back to his home 473 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: planet to celebrate life Day with his family. Right. That's it, 474 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: And it again we almost barely see Chewy. Yeah. The 475 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: rest is his family on because waiting for him to 476 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: come back for a life Day. Yeah. So, um, some 477 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,719 Speaker 1: of the various things they did, they were guest stars. 478 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: There was Harvey Corman from the Carol Burnett Show, one 479 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: of my all time favorites him or Carol Carol Burnett Show. Both. 480 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: He's great. Yeah, he actually if you watch what he's doing, 481 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: you're like, this is comedy genius. Apparently, he too was 482 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: like the only one on set that was bringing levity. 483 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: He was joking around and kind of kept spirits up. 484 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Good for him, that's what I say. And he had 485 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: three three different parts. Yeah, he played uh well, I 486 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 1: don't even know the names. Actually, we could look him up, 487 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 1: but he played a He played a Julia child like cook. 488 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: There's an actual cooking segment, a long one, a very 489 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 1: long cooking segment where Chewbacca's wife Um makes Banta stew 490 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: to kill some time, to kill some time because there 491 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: was waiting on her planet and in our living room. Yeah, 492 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: so Harvey Corman is in Drag is a forearmed Julia 493 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: childlike uh TV chef and I think it's Gormanda. It's 494 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: her name, Gormanda. That makes total sense. He also plays Um. 495 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: There's this one weird bit where Chewbacca's son tries to 496 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: figure out a way to trick the stormtroopers that the 497 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 1: Empire had come and kind of because of the blockade, 498 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: raided the house and other properties. So he tries to 499 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: trick them by I think rigging a calm link. Uh 500 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: to speak in a different voice. So he has to 501 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: watch the instruction manual. He watches an instruction video which 502 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: was Harvey Kitel as a robot. Oh, it would have 503 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: been wonderful of big Harvey Kitel. Did say, Harvey Carvey 504 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Corman many murders someone in the middle of the instruction, 505 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,040 Speaker 1: Great Harvey Corman. And then the final role he had 506 00:30:56,160 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: was as a a bar patron in the cantina that drinks. 507 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: He has a hole in the top of his head 508 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: like a volcano where he pours his drinks in. That's 509 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,239 Speaker 1: how he drinks. And he he loves be Arthur. Did 510 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: we mention b Arthur was in it? Be Arthur is 511 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: not only in it, Chuck. She sings a song. She 512 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: does she is then to everyone she manages or maybe 513 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: owns the owner. Yeah, the what's the mas what Moss 514 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: def cantina? Uh? No, most def is a rapper. Oh, yeah, 515 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: I think you mean Moss Eisley. Yes, yes, that cantina. 516 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: She's the owner. Be Arthur is the owner, the Uthur 517 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: of the Golden Girls, but in this case the Arthur 518 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,480 Speaker 1: of Maud, because, as one of the people who wrote 519 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: one of the articles we based this on points out, 520 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: she's just basically playing Maud as the owner of the cantina. Yeah, 521 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: and her song comes because um, they basically say, there's 522 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: a lockdown, so you gotta call last call um at 523 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: your bar. So she calls last call by singing a 524 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: song to everyone. Right, and again, we can't possibly have 525 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: the script lead anywhere else but Chewbacca's house while his 526 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: family waits for it. So all this takes place as 527 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: part of a public service announcement basically broadcast by the 528 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: Empire about how immoral life on tattooing is. So let's 529 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: go see what's going on in the mos Eisley Cantina 530 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: as it's being shut down for curfew. Alright, this is incomprehensible, 531 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: but it goes on. Um, so they're in it. There's 532 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: also Art Carney, yes, of the Honeymooners family, the star 533 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: of the whole thing. Really, he has the most lines, 534 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: I would say, the most comprehensible line, right, So he 535 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: plays a trader, a human trader. Um that is uh, 536 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: recently been with Han Solo and Chewy and actually gets 537 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: to Kazuok and says they're on the way. It's all good. Yeah, 538 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,719 Speaker 1: a trade or not trade tour. Yeah, traders in trades 539 00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: humans for you know, money. No, he he sells goods, yeah, trader. 540 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 1: He isn't trade humans. Yeah, he's in the human trade. 541 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: He No, he isn't. Really he trades humans like he 542 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: sells humans. I looked it up in the Star Wars 543 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: Encyclopedia said that he was in the human trade. So 544 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: in this Christmas special, apparently they sanitize his his background 545 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: because he's basically just selling like gadgets and novelties and 546 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that to the Wookies and the Empire who 547 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: were occupying the area. Yes, he comes bearing gifts because 548 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: he's a friend of Chewbacca's family. Yeah, so he comes 549 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: bearing gifts. One of the gifts he gives is a 550 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: UM sort of like a little digital insert to a Oh, 551 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: I guess you would call it a virtual reality hair 552 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: dryer hair dryer, like a beauty shop hair dryer. Right. 553 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: He gives it to Grandpa Itchy. Grandpa Itchy um sits 554 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: under this hair dryer, pops in this uh digital cassette, 555 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: and it can only be described as softcore porn. Apparently 556 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: the writers who were interviewed for this said that was 557 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: totally the intent. They were trying to get what amounted 558 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,439 Speaker 1: to softcore porn that would pass the sensors. So it's 559 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: all you can't even say it's innuendo. It's too obvious 560 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: in overt for innuendo. Instead, it's just it's just it's 561 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: just gross. It's really gross. Um. Diane Carroll, yes she is, Um, 562 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: a Vegas staple shows up and starts basically tantalizing. Um. 563 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: Grandpa Itchy, who again, this is Chewbacca's elderly father, who 564 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 1: now engages in some sort of well he's he's watching 565 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: virtual reality pornography now, and this is a pretty lengthy 566 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: segment in and of itself. Well yeah, and she literally 567 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: says to him, now, I can see you're really excited. Yeah, 568 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: it's pretty rough to watch. Yeah, so then you've got 569 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,000 Speaker 1: another musical number because also again he shutters, yeah, it's 570 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: really strange. All right, So there's also ah, I know, 571 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: it seems like we're jumping around, but it's it's mind blowing, 572 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: not like this is pretty much like blow for blow. Um. 573 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: Actually I forgot earlier on in in the in the special, Um, 574 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: there's one of my favorite sequences is when Grandpa Itchy 575 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: goes over to Lumpy and basically sets up remember the 576 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 1: the hologram chessboard that they played in a New Hope, 577 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: basically kind of sets that up and says, here, just 578 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,800 Speaker 1: play this. He pushes the button which is clearly a 579 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: nineteen seventies cassette recorder, and another uh like it's like 580 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: a circue to sol acid trip um gymnast routine happens 581 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: in front of the kid's eyes. And again this all 582 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: just it's not like it shows a snippet. They show 583 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: the entire segments, like five, six ten minutes long of 584 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 1: all of these things. So you would think, Okay, they've 585 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,920 Speaker 1: gone to this hologram well a couple of times, why 586 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,640 Speaker 1: not go to it again? Well they do. They do 587 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: to kill more time while the Imperial Guard is ransacking 588 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: their house. Um Art Carney apparently, I guess it's trying 589 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: to get one of the Imperial Guard, the leader, I think, 590 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: or one of the leaders who looks like somebody from 591 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: Space Balls by the way, very much so. Um and 592 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: the writer of the Vanity Fair article, by the way, said, um, 593 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,479 Speaker 1: this this is so incomprehensible. The specialist George Lucas didn't 594 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: even have the Schwartz with him at the time. So anyway, 595 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: Art Carney's distracting this uh Imperial leader. Um while they're 596 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: ransacking the Wookiees house, Chewbacca's house with a hologram, and 597 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: this hologram, instead of being an acrobat or Diane Carroll 598 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: or any kind of porn or anything like that, is 599 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: Jefferson Starship. And they decide that they're going to play 600 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 1: Light the Sky on Fire, which apparently is about UFOs. 601 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: It's a little music video. Basically, it's a pretty Yeah, 602 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 1: it's the predecessor to like video kill the radio started 603 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:10,040 Speaker 1: can tell um and again it is the whole lengthy song, 604 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing. So every time that somebody's like we 605 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: need to escape mentally from what's going on here in 606 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: our house, let's go into the video world, it's not 607 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: just there and they don't cut back and forth. It's okay, 608 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,560 Speaker 1: here's five minutes of Jefferson Starship performing this song. And 609 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,759 Speaker 1: even the Jefferson Starship guys um were like, yeah, that's 610 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: sort of a weird trip, like we didn't get it, 611 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,720 Speaker 1: but we did it right. They gave us some money 612 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 1: and some cocaine. Well probably, so we said, yeah, chuck. 613 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: I think though, um, there yet another segment like this 614 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: is actually widely regarded as the high point of the 615 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 1: whole thing. So there is a cartoon actually that lump 616 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: watch Yeah lumpies, like the Imperial Guard is still ransacking 617 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: my house. I think I'll entertain myself by watching a 618 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: cartoon on my little Um, I don't know what. I 619 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: guess it was an iPad and uh. He watches this 620 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,760 Speaker 1: cartoon and it's it's actually remarkable for a number of reasons. 621 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,880 Speaker 1: It's the best part of the whole special generally agreed 622 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: upon as such, but not just us. And it introduces 623 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: Boba Fett. It's the first time Boba Fett ever makes 624 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: an appearance in Star Wars Universe. Yeah, it's actually not 625 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: a bad And you can't find it in the the 626 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 1: one version I told you to watch. They removed it 627 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: for copyright, but they didn't watch a separate version, right, 628 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: you can find it on its own. Yeah, and it's um, 629 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: it's very much reminiscent of like the cartoon style of 630 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 1: the day, like a key man or something even even 631 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: but it's even a little more artsy than that. Yeah, 632 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: but it does have a plot that you can follow 633 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: that makes sense as a Star Wars thing, And it 634 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: introduces Boba Fett like you said, and um, it's actually 635 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: not bad. It's like Luke and R two and C 636 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: three p O. Yeah, and there's like they crash on 637 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: a planet or something. Yeah, and Han and Jewry you're 638 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: in it. And it's the first time we see in 639 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,359 Speaker 1: Darth Vader. It's the first time we see Boba Fett 640 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: and that he is uh, that he is just doing 641 00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 1: whatever he can do for money, Like Luke trusts him 642 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: at first. C three p I was like, you're sure 643 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: you should trust him this quick and he's like, oh, 644 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 1: three p O you and your non trusting ways. And 645 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: then it turns out he's selling them out to the 646 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: dark side. So it's it's basically Boba Fett is an 647 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: allegory for George Lucas himself. Um. So the cartoon comes 648 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: and goes, and that was the thing that came at 649 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: about the end of the first hour mark and after 650 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,480 Speaker 1: that everybody just turned off their television sets. Yeah, I 651 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,440 Speaker 1: don't remember, did you watch this when it came up. Yeah, 652 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,239 Speaker 1: I remember watching it, but I don't remember much about it, 653 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,239 Speaker 1: like if I made it through it all. I mean 654 00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279 Speaker 1: it was I was seven and it was on until ten, 655 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: So I probably didn't make it through it all. Um, 656 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: you probably disturbed. Who knows. I just remember that. I 657 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: let to ask my brother he might have a memory 658 00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: of this. Oh, Betty does. I'm sure he met everybody 659 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: afterwards or something like that. You know, it has a picture. Well, 660 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: he was ten at that point that cynicism had, you know, 661 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: become a thing in his life. Probably by then, didn't 662 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 1: that when cynicism kicks into Scott holding out the fourteen 663 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 1: fifteen Yeah maybe so so, um, Chuck, the whole thing 664 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 1: finally does in. And actually there's a guy. His name 665 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: is Nathan Raban, he writes over at the A V. Club. 666 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,880 Speaker 1: He had a great quote. He basically said that one 667 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 1: of the great redeeming values of this um this special 668 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: is that it does eventually end. Yeah, you know what 669 00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: the first part of the quote is. I'm not convinced 670 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: the Special wasn't ultimately written and directed by a sentient 671 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: bag of cocaine. And like go read his his review 672 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: of the Star Wars Holiday Special because he goes on 673 00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: to describe exactly what that must have been, like the 674 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: development meeting where the bag of cocaine is pacing back 675 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: and forth talking about what should happen. That's what it 676 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: feels like. But it doesn't, and it ends even more. 677 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,319 Speaker 1: It takes this bizarre two hours and wraps it up 678 00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,280 Speaker 1: in just a nice bizarre bow. Yeah. So what happens 679 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 1: is eventually Han Solo should we say spoiler alert? Eventually 680 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 1: Han Solo and Chewi make it to the planet. They 681 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: park on the far side of the planet because they 682 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: know the uh the Imperial forces are there and the 683 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: exercise will do Chewy good, so they have to hike 684 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,200 Speaker 1: over there. They eventually make it back home. Uh, they 685 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:23,799 Speaker 1: find a storm the stormtroopers at their house. Um, their 686 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: tree hut. Yeah, which way by the paintings that set 687 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: this up, I don't think we mentioned I don't even 688 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: call him Matt paintings. It looks like someone painted something 689 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,479 Speaker 1: on the wall and they just like put a camera 690 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: in front of it. Yeah. So they get back and um, Chewbacca, 691 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: Han Solo hides around the corner. Chewbacca steps in front 692 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: of his son to protect them. Han Solo jumps out, 693 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 1: and the stormtrooper trips over a pile of logs and 694 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: falls over the balcony and special so they wouldn't even 695 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,880 Speaker 1: have not only could he not shoot first with Grido, 696 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: but they couldn't even have him like wrestle the stormtrooper 697 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: and throw him off. He trips over a log and 698 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: Han Solo has his hands thrown up like wasn't me? 699 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: It might as well have been a banana peal, you know. 700 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: But again, uh, this is basically produced by vaudevillians starring vaudevillians. 701 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: Why not have the one death take place from basically 702 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: what it mounts to somebody slipping on a banana peel. 703 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: It's a perfect way to end it. So that's uh 704 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 1: that that guy basically represents the end of the Imperial 705 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 1: threat for the rest of Life Day. And um. We 706 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: we then see Life Day being celebrated, which is celebrated 707 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: by lots of wookies assembling in what looks like a 708 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 1: giant Olan Mills portrait. Um, and all of them are 709 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 1: wearing red robes. And I know I'm up talking, and 710 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: it's because my mind is still having trouble like wrapping 711 00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 1: around this and then um, Princess Leah comes out with 712 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 1: C three p O is Mark Hamill there, the whole 713 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,839 Speaker 1: gangs there, if okay, the whole gangs there. And then 714 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: they all gather around to hear a great quote from 715 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: Princess Leiah, which we will read um verbatim. This holiday 716 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,960 Speaker 1: is yours, but we all share with you the hope 717 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,760 Speaker 1: that this day brings us closer to freedom, into harmony, 718 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,319 Speaker 1: and to peace. No matter how different we appear, we're 719 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: all the same in our struggle against the powers of 720 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,280 Speaker 1: evil and darkness. I hope that this day will always 721 00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: be a day of joy in which we can reconfirm 722 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: our dedication and our courage, and more than anything else, 723 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: our love for one another. This is the promise of 724 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: the Tree of Life que Song, right, And we should 725 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: also point out the Tree of Life has never been 726 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: mentioned up to this point. It's a sudden appearance at 727 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,359 Speaker 1: the end. And when you say queue song by que Song, 728 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 1: you mean Princess Leia starts singing, yeah. And apparently that 729 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: was one of the big contingencies on Carrie Fisher being involved. 730 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: She's going through as where she was like, I kind 731 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,319 Speaker 1: of like singing. Bruce Valanche calls it her Joni Mitchell period. Yeah, 732 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: and she somehow convinced them to let her sing as 733 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 1: Princess Leiah. And she does. And again I've said that 734 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 1: she looks like she's on drugs. This is the point 735 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: where she really does look like she's on drugs. And 736 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,960 Speaker 1: it's not just me, um, other writers who've written reviews 737 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 1: of this. It's really obvious that she possibly smoked a 738 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: decent amount of pot before she shot this shot this scene. 739 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,239 Speaker 1: But she sings, Oh, okay, it's fine. It's just the 740 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: fact that um, Princess Leiah is singing. And actually, Bruce 741 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: Valanche had a really great quote too. He says that, um, 742 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: she very much wanted to show this side of her talent, 743 00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,400 Speaker 1: and there was general dismay because this was not what 744 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: we wanted Princess Leia to be doing. Did it anyway? 745 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: So the whole thing ends with her singing this song 746 00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 1: about life day, which is set loosely to the John 747 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: Williams Star Wars theme. So along the way, the director 748 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: original director quit, a new director, Steve Binder, was hired 749 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: to finish the job and bring it in uh, and 750 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,919 Speaker 1: he did over the original one million dollar budget. Of course, 751 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: always uh he did bring it in and um, at 752 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: this point George Lucas had uh he was he was 753 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,080 Speaker 1: working on Empire Strikes Back. He didn't know what was 754 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: going on. He wasn't around for the shoot. No, it 755 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: wasn't until it aired. I think that he actually saw it. Yes, 756 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: and it was a travesty, obviously, if you haven't noticed 757 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: that by now, Critics hated it. Star Wars fans really 758 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: hated it. Everybody hate The people who were in it 759 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: hated it. Lucas hated it. Even Harvey Corman secretly hated it. 760 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: Even Harvey Kitel hated Actually he loved it. But Lucas 761 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: has been asked over the years about it a lot, 762 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: and he doesn't talk about it much. But in two 763 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,800 Speaker 1: thousand five, and I don't buy this for a second, 764 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: he says, Um, it was an interview he said special 765 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: from I really didn't have much to do with us. 766 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 1: You know that part is true. I can't remember what 767 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 1: network it was even on, but it was a thing 768 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,239 Speaker 1: that they did. That's a lie. There's no way he 769 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,279 Speaker 1: doesn't know that was CBT. Uh. We kind of just 770 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 1: let them do it. I believe that it was done 771 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: by I can't even remember who the group was, but 772 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: they were variety TV guys. I'm sure he remembers a 773 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,720 Speaker 1: few of them. We let them use the characters and stuff, 774 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,360 Speaker 1: and that probably wasn't the smartest thing to do, but 775 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: you learn from those experiences. I think they even used 776 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: some of the footage from the movie. At the end, 777 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 1: it looks like some space like a highlight reel the 778 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 1: gang well, and during the UM it looked like some 779 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,880 Speaker 1: of the they had some insert shots of like Imperial 780 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: cruisers and Thai fighters and stuff that remember when when 781 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: Chewbacca like leans back and puts his hands behind it, Yeah, 782 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: that's in there. It's it's like a it's just a 783 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,160 Speaker 1: highlight reel from the movie. Saying like I feel like this, 784 00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 1: go see the movie. Well, and also that means it 785 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,200 Speaker 1: doesn't match the look of the rest of it at all. Yeah, 786 00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: that's just sort of inserted. They tried, definitely try um 787 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 1: and George Lucas is totally full of it, because in 788 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 1: seven he told star Log magazine that the Christmas Special 789 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: would be out on video cassette very soon, and in 790 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, two years after that quote, you just 791 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,480 Speaker 1: read where he's like, I don't even know what you're 792 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:20,920 Speaker 1: talking about basically. Um. He apparently considered releasing the Christmas 793 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: Special as a bonus on the UM the DVDs of 794 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: the first three right, but did not did and apparently 795 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 1: Carrie Fisher told Lucas that if you want me to 796 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: do U DVD extras, commentary commentary, then I want a 797 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: clean original copy of the Holiday Special, So why go 798 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: ahead so I can play at parties when I want 799 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:47,600 Speaker 1: people to leave. It's pretty great. It is so uh 800 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: and there is one of those clean copies is floating 801 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,400 Speaker 1: around out there, so you can watch this in it 802 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,960 Speaker 1: in its entirety. Some of it, like the cartoon, was 803 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,840 Speaker 1: removed due to copyright infringement and that kind of stuff, 804 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 1: but as is the case with the rest of the Internet, 805 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: you can just go find it elsewhere and piece it together. 806 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:09,399 Speaker 1: There's also the original ads that aired in Baltimore. Yeah, 807 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,440 Speaker 1: that are just fascinating. Those are always fun GM ads 808 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: where one of the guys who's in quality control is 809 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: he says, did you watch it? I don't think I 810 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: saw that. He goes, um, we really care about these 811 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: cars and that's no job man a GM and he's like, 812 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 1: that's serious. They're trying to be hip. Yeah. Um, it's 813 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: a pretty good stuff. Here's my final thought on it. 814 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: I love it. It does not taint my Star Wars 815 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: experience or my love for the franchise, and I'm glad 816 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: it is out there because it it's a it's a 817 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: fun little stain that shouldn't be taken too seriously. I 818 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: think it adds to it actually, because it's campy and awful, 819 00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:55,800 Speaker 1: and I don't know somehow that enriches the rest of it. 820 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you. Do you like it? Oh? Yeah? I 821 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 1: mean I watched the twice. Someone to't watched it a second, 822 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,799 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made it through the first time. Let 823 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,399 Speaker 1: me take that back. I'm a pro, so I would 824 00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,840 Speaker 1: have made it through the first time. I wouldn't have 825 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 1: watched it the second time if I wasn't. There wasn't 826 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: something about it, and I figured out. I think the 827 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: thing that I liked the most about it is Lumpy 828 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: Chewbacca's son, played by an actress named Patty Maloney, who 829 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,200 Speaker 1: frankly is hands down the best actor in the entire thing. 830 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:27,920 Speaker 1: She like her responses and everything is just awesome. I 831 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,439 Speaker 1: think my favorite parts are uh, well, there's a great 832 00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: Wilhelm screams over the law. Jerry would not have noticed it. Uh. 833 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,840 Speaker 1: And then there's a part where all the wikie dialogue 834 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: you can't understand, but there's clearly one part where where 835 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: Itchy and Lumpy are have any exchange where Lumpy you 836 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: can make it out, goes yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's 837 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 1: covered up. But someone was like, we have to have 838 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: at least one exchange where you sort of know what 839 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: they're saying, or they were like, I think she just 840 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: said I love you. Should we have them redo it? 841 00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: And then directors like, no, I want to go and chuck. 842 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: There's one other thing that I figured out from watching this. 843 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: What's that it's not readily apparent the whole thing is 844 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,959 Speaker 1: made all the more odd, and that there's situation after 845 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: situation after situation where we, as normal audiences, were trained 846 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: to expect the laugh track, but there's not a laugh track. 847 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,239 Speaker 1: Had there been a laugh track, it what it might 848 00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: have been less bizarre, But the fact that it's missing 849 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: just makes your agitates the mind. So it's this whole 850 00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: additional element that it is weird. I never thought about that. 851 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 1: There's just weird moments of silence all throughout it. Yea, 852 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: like when Art Carney's doing this thing telling jokes. Okay, 853 00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: I agree with you, Chuck. Don't take things too seriously. 854 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,719 Speaker 1: I think that's the great lesson in this and then 855 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: that's the lesson of life day it is. And in 856 00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: two thousand seven, Riff tracks Great Mystery Science Theater three 857 00:50:55,160 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: thousand guys Mike Nelson, Bill Corbett, and Kevin Murphy uh 858 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 1: provided audio momentary for the full version of the special. 859 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: So try and go grab that if you can as well, 860 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:06,560 Speaker 1: So you can't. It's on the site because it's great. 861 00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like eight bucks. And those guys are awesome, 862 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 1: and they are at least I think Corbett listens to us. So, hey, Corbett, 863 00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,320 Speaker 1: you got anything else? No, No, I think we did this. 864 00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,480 Speaker 1: There's some good stuff. Go read the Vanity Fair article 865 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: uh Han Solo Comedy Hour. There's a book called How 866 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,200 Speaker 1: Star Wars Conquered the Universe that has a very interesting 867 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,440 Speaker 1: chapter about this. That's where we found it asserted that 868 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: George Lucas never said that he would smash this thing 869 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: with a sledgehammer. Um. And there's also an entire website 870 00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,920 Speaker 1: dedicated to its Star Wars Holiday special dot com and 871 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,439 Speaker 1: if you want to know more about the Star Wars 872 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,439 Speaker 1: holiday special, we have a ton of heart Star Wars 873 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: stuff on how stuff Works by the way, Yeah, we 874 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: have cool, um sort of fun articles about the Death 875 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 1: Star and Lightsabers videos with the Holly Fry from stuff 876 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 1: you missed in history class. Yeah. Who she knows her stuff? 877 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: She does. Um. So you can just type Star Wars 878 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,239 Speaker 1: in the search part how stuff works dot Com Andy 879 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,360 Speaker 1: will bring up some cool stuff for you. 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I think back to when I was younger 889 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: and friends invented their own languages, or even in writing 890 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 1: a song or poetry. Creativity can sometimes be limited by 891 00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: what we know. Uh So I just thought I contribute 892 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,920 Speaker 1: that to the conversation big thanks for all you guys do. 893 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: I found the podcast after moving to San Diego in 894 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: the last few years for some noise around my apartment, 895 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 1: so basically we were blocking out noise. We do that 896 00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 1: from Jill Love uh and then as a way to 897 00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:01,840 Speaker 1: get through traffic on my commute home from work. 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