WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: Believing in Ben? 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:12.160 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:12.200 --> 0:00:22.360 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Player's Lane, 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:27.320 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World Headquarters at the Star. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:32.960 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, and NEWI scrugs, 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:39.960 go oh, he can't hear you? Go ahead, all right. 0:00:39.960 --> 0:00:43.880 Here we are on a Friday here at the fun 0:00:44.040 --> 0:00:47.560 Town RV tailgate. There we go here on a Friday. 0:00:47.600 --> 0:00:53.920 I got a time and we're outside again, beautiful at 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:58.280 the Tostito's Championship Plaza at Fordson. I can't can't beat 0:00:58.320 --> 0:01:00.800 it and beat who got the high school highlights? Nice? 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.840 It is nice out here. If you've never been to 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:08.560 the Ford Center, there's a beautiful football field right here 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.399 as you enter the building, and people come and they 0:01:10.400 --> 0:01:13.920 play all the time. And I don't know yet, I 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.280 got to ask. But in December they do it. They 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:19.320 do a show and you've you've seen the show they 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.000 do that, but they rockets. I don't think they're doing 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:26.319 it out here this year. But yeah, So the Rhythm 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:28.000 and Blues team comes out there with a friend Jinny 0:01:28.040 --> 0:01:29.759 Derb and puts that thing on. Man, it's it's tight 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:32.680 man out there putting on the show they do. They 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:34.840 do everything out there. It's nice. So I hate I 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:36.360 hate that they won't have that. Man. I hate that 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:38.399 hate because it's it's a heck of the show. It's 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:40.880 not that safe. But uh yeah, yeah, I hate that 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:46.640 they're not having as well. Okay, um, let's work for you. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.920 Let's work for you. All right. My headsets aren't working here, 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:51.280 so so you got to cut me a little bit 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:52.400 of slack. I'm gonna take it off out here so 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:54.080 I can hear because I can still I can still 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:56.920 hear you guys. Uh Cowboys. By the way, this is 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.000 the players on hotels. I come up and we scrugs. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.120 Long time Cowboys reporter Barry Church down there at the 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.960 end David Craig two former Dallas Cowboys safeties. Sunday Night 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:11.040 Football on NBC. Mike McCarthy said today that less Andy 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.560 has some type of practice Tomorrow it's gonna be the 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:18.360 Bend Nucci Show against the Philadelphia Eagles. The rookie seventh 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.359 round draft pick out of James Madison. You guys are 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.160 former defensive players. When you saw a rookie coming to 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.480 the game as a quarterback, what were your thoughts, Well, 0:02:27.520 --> 0:02:29.880 hopefully you know this doesn't happen, so my guy the 0:02:29.960 --> 0:02:32.800 Nucci out there. But I mean when we saw rookie 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:34.919 quarterbacks coming in, I mean it was looking it was 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.880 like licking your chops out there, man. I mean you knew, 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.160 especially if they had to throw, like if it was 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.560 you know, they were down fourteen or twenty one points 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:43.840 or something like that and they had to throw to 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.440 get back in the game. And now you see a 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:48.480 rookie quarterback coming in there, I mean you're licking your chops. 0:02:48.560 --> 0:02:50.840 You know that you're gonna get something. He's gonna throw 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:53.720 at least something to you. And the thing about that 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:55.800 is if you can disguise, if you can, you know, 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:57.720 get him off his game early, because when you're a 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.560 rookie quarterback, you're thinking about a lot of things. You 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:02.040 got this this huge D line coming at you, you 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.000 got linebackers barking out commands while you're up there. I mean, 0:03:05.040 --> 0:03:07.040 you got the secondary messing with your head over there 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.560 playing you know, maybe it's three, maybe it's too high. 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:11.400 I mean you never know. So as a as a 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.640 defensive back coming out there, we used to disguise and 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.880 we would love love licking our chops to see a 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.480 young quarterback coming out there. But you know, hopefully, you 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.160 know Ben, you know, got a little bit of moxy 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.320 to him. You know, hopefully he comes in there and 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.320 takes command of the huddle because this is a big 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.360 This is huge for him. I mean, I know a 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.360 lot of us didn't want this going into the season. 0:03:29.360 --> 0:03:30.680 We didn't want to have to get down to our 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.320 third string quarterback. But I mean, this is huge for him. 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:35.600 This could be one of his you know, this could 0:03:35.600 --> 0:03:37.800 be his moment, and hopefully he's able to take advantage 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.800 of it. I knew he was gonna get into some 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.440 positivity in the kool aid before he finished to finish 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:46.880 up his take. But uh, listen, if you are on 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:49.760 defense and you see this guy coming in, this is 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.880 when when we used to play like Eli Manning, Uh 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.160 Mark Rod marnellis just say, hey, this is the game 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:57.720 where we're gonna start getting our turnovers right because we couldn't. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.240 We couldn't find a way to get turnovers. So we 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.480 will find quarterbacks to hype us up and say, look, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.280 this is the guy right here. He'll throw you one. Right. 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:08.560 So I think right now their defense is like, listen, 0:04:08.800 --> 0:04:10.960 if you want to get you something, and we already 0:04:11.000 --> 0:04:13.360 discussed this, if you want to have a career day, 0:04:13.840 --> 0:04:16.760 you show up against the Cowboys to get right game. 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:18.920 So this to get right game. You know, I hope 0:04:18.960 --> 0:04:21.479 it doesn't happen because, like I said, I'm I played 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.680 for the Cowboys and I love the Cowboys. But if 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:26.320 I'm being realistic, these guys are looking at chops and 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.560 they're waiting to see who gets the first interception. But this, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:32.640 I mean, it's it's it's definitely you know, he has 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.440 one thing working in his advantage. There's not a lot 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.080 of tape out on him. I mean he threw the 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:37.880 ball but maybe three or four times last week in 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:40.360 Washington he was under the rest. I mean it was 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:43.039 it wasn't a good show him by far. But what 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:44.880 Philly doesn't have, they don't have a lot of tape 0:04:44.880 --> 0:04:46.960 on him. And we saw that, you know, helping advantage 0:04:46.960 --> 0:04:49.080 when when Andy Dalton came on the field after that 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.120 went down, he came on the field, there was no tape, 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.599 The defenses weren't prepared for Andy Dalton. He came up 0:04:53.600 --> 0:04:55.120 there and lit him up. I mean the next week, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:56.680 you know, we saw once you got that tape on him, 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:58.560 you know, they would kind of corral him. But one 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:03.520 time I wouldn't Giant Philly Phillies Bears. I wouldn't say 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:06.880 littlem up. But you know he made some he made 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.000 led two scoring. Yeah, yeah he did. He did what 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:14.920 he did, what he was supposed to do, and they 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:17.680 won the game against who the giant? Okay, all right, 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:21.880 just who are weak? It was winning Phi Phillies better 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:24.280 than New York. Everybody's better than New York, but Philly 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.920 like Phillis. You know, the eighty five Bears, seventeen Jackson 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:31.400 Jack So everybody's better. Oh we did beat him on 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.200 that on that on on the fleuzy little play, but yeah, 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.600 everybody's better in New York. We are so much better 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:38.840 than know. Hey, Shannon, can you give me some of 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:43.920 that Jack Black? That Jack Black? What's got you recognize? 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.599 I recognize you. I saw you right there when you 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:51.640 came up there. You guys didn't recognize civilian clothes. I 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:56.000 couldn't recognize him. No, listen, you write my moti. I 0:05:56.040 --> 0:05:58.279 gotta listen to church over here. Hype up the Nucci. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:02.680 That's what's wrong. Here we go again. See let's go. 0:06:03.160 --> 0:06:05.720 Let's go. Shannon does one of the great podcast here 0:06:05.800 --> 0:06:08.280 Dallas Cowboy dot com and just say hanging out here 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.880 as well with the family. Um, okay, so Church, I'm 0:06:11.880 --> 0:06:14.320 gonna address this one to you, okay. And and and 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.000 the reason I'm addressing it to him it is because please, 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:22.360 you played in the MAC and and that's a Nonpower 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:27.280 five school. Yeah. Ben de Nucci started off at PIT 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.040 then transferred to James Madison, which is not and this 0:06:30.120 --> 0:06:32.839 is below the MAC and below and below the Mountain West. 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:35.480 We're talking about that that next level, that that f 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:39.040 that FCS levels technically what they call it, where Carson 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:41.240 Wentz ended up playing at in North Dakota State. So 0:06:41.880 --> 0:06:45.040 what's the adjustment when you come from a conference like 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:47.720 that to the National Football League within your rookie year. 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:49.880 Give me, give me that baseline because you went through 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:52.640 it well. For me, you know, the speed was the 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:54.640 biggest thing because in the MAC, you know, you got 0:06:54.680 --> 0:06:56.520 a lot of guys, you got some talent in the MAC. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:59.440 But there's no you aren't touching the speed of the NFL. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.880 Like every body from the defensive line to the secondary 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:05.599 to the to the linebackers everybody's fast. You can't just 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.480 outrun anybody in International football league. So for me, the 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.120 biggest adjustment was the speed, and for him, I think 0:07:12.160 --> 0:07:14.640 it's gonna be the speed of everybody, but also just 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.640 trying to figure everything out on the fly. I mean, 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:18.800 this is this is a guy who didn't have OTAs, 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:21.560 He didn't have a you know, a long training camp 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.960 it was abbreviated training camp, didn't have any preseason games 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.360 under his belt. So he's going into a game right here, 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:28.600 just you know, off of a week of practice, and 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:30.560 it's gonna be hard for him to see all these adjustments. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.080 I'm sure they're gonna bring the house on him. They're 0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:34.000 gonna try to make him, you know, flustered out there 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.400 and trying to make him get the ball out of 0:07:35.400 --> 0:07:38.080 his hands quick, decision making quick. So for him, he's 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:40.320 just gonna have to stick to the game plan. If 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:42.320 that means running the ball a lot. Look your first 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:44.560 your first option, your second option win throwing the ball, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:45.800 and then you might have to take off use that 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.600 twenty one mile and hour speed we're hearing about. But 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:50.920 for me, he just can't make the game more complicated 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:52.920 than it is. If you see cover three out there 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.120 and it's not there, open man, just take off and run. 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.000 I mean, you have nothing else to lose, all right, 0:07:57.080 --> 0:08:01.480 So mcram would have put this one to you. We're 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:05.280 talking Ben the Nucci as we should the starting quarterback. 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:09.160 It's gonna be the starting quarterback. But how much is 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.480 this really on Ben as much as it should be 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:14.480 Kellen Moore coming up with a game plan that that 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:18.200 really protects him. That you don't want this kid out 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.720 here trying to throw fifty passes on Sunday night football 0:08:20.720 --> 0:08:23.880 against Philadelphia. Honestly, I think it's I think it's fifty fifty. 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:26.640 But but you also have to put, you know, Zeke 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:28.720 in there. You have to put Coop in there because 0:08:28.760 --> 0:08:30.360 that they have. Kellen has to come up with a 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:34.360 game plan that that that caters to the Nucci and 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:35.800 the fact that he is a rookie and this will 0:08:35.800 --> 0:08:37.720 be his first start. He has to put that out there, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.400 and then Zeki has to go out there and hang 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.560 on to the ball. Coop and UH and Gallop and 0:08:42.640 --> 0:08:44.880 CD what they will probably have to make a lot 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:47.120 of contested catches, make some special catches. They will have 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.480 to make some special plays because they are out here 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:52.040 with a rookie quarterback, and the defense will have to 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:55.120 turn over the ball are or not let them score 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:56.680 as much. So it's going to be a team game. 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:58.839 So but I'm putting fifty fifty. De Nucci has to 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:00.960 go out there and exit cute the game plan that 0:09:01.040 --> 0:09:03.280 Kellen hopefully puts out there, and then the rest of 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.600 the people around him have to do their job more 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:07.720 than they had to when Dak was on the field 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:09.280 or when Andy Dalton was on the field. So is 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.240 this the kind of game where the head coach McCarthy 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:15.840 goes and finds twenty one and says, hey, look, I 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:19.120 need you to be the guy that's got the ninety 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:23.199 million dollars contract. I need you to carry this Look, 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:25.640 you're not gonna have the regular line you're used to 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.000 that made you an All Pro and a Pro Bowl player, 0:09:28.280 --> 0:09:29.920 but I need you to find a way. I need 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.280 you to carry this thing. I think that was last 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.199 week and uh and unfortunately, you know when I came 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.640 on the shore earlier this week, That's why I said 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.040 I was nervous because to me, it looked like he 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.040 was splitting carries with Tony Poller. So is he going 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:42.880 to twenty one and twenty or they are they putting 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:45.320 this on twenty ones back. If it's me, that's what 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:47.560 I'm doing. I'm telling Zeke, hey man, this is on 0:09:47.679 --> 0:09:50.400 you as far as we go, is as far as 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.120 you take us right. And I'm giving you everything you want. 0:09:53.160 --> 0:09:54.800 You need twenty five carries, I'm giving you that, and 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:56.600 we focusing this on you. We need you to hang 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:59.240 on to the ball. We need you to lean always 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.320 fall forward, you three to four yards and putting us 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.000 in third and shorts. That's that's what we need from you. 0:10:03.240 --> 0:10:05.640 And I think that will be okay. The quarterback's best friend, 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.040 it's a running back, and that's your opportunity. And we 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:12.200 can't get frustrated with man. You know, we might be 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:15.040 down fourteen. We cannot get away from the runs till 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:16.600 I mean, we've seen it happen too many times this 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.880 year where we you know, we start out slow and 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.360 other team kind of picks it up on us and 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:22.760 we just leave the run, you know, just throw the 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:24.720 throw to the wayside. We can't. We can't do it 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.360 at that today or this game coming up. We cannot 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:29.600 lose focus of the run. Even if we get down 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:31.800 a couple scores. We gotta stay pounding the run because 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:33.760 if we leave the Nucie out there, I mean, the 0:10:33.800 --> 0:10:35.760 kid could get hurt. We can't. I mean, we gotta 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:37.920 lean on Zeke. We gotta have that that that top 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.559 back back in the backfield to help us out this 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:43.600 and and listen once again. The running game in today's 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.520 NFL consists more of just handing the ball off to Zeke. 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:51.000 It also consists of quickouts. It consists of jailbreak screens, 0:10:51.280 --> 0:10:53.640 It consists of of zone reads. It consists of more 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:55.120 than just that. So it doesn't just have to be 0:10:55.160 --> 0:10:58.680 the elementary turnaround and get the ball to Zeke on counter, 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.360 get the ball to Zeke on power. It has to 0:11:00.400 --> 0:11:02.559 be a creative type of running. Right. So I want 0:11:02.600 --> 0:11:05.120 to see Cede Lamb and Mary Cooper come around on 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:07.360 jet sweeps and get and get some carries. I want 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.280 to see quick outs, some hitches from from Mary Cooper, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:11.600 get the ball in their hands quick and let them 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:13.160 see what they can do after. I want to see 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.360 all that that's an extension of the ring game. We 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.880 could and able to slow this rushdown to slow branding 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.040 Graham and all those cocks and all those boys over 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.240 there in Philadelphia. We could see some RPO action. I mean, 0:11:24.400 --> 0:11:26.079 we haven't seen a lot of it this year so far, 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.760 but we could see some RPO action. You know, let 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:30.720 the Nuccie see. I don't know if that's that might 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.600 be a little bit too much on this. It might 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:33.840 not that I think about. It might be too much 0:11:33.840 --> 0:11:35.160 on the play because he's gonna have to read the 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:38.000 defensive end, read the linebackers and see how they're doing 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:40.040 it as well as you know, should I hand this offer, 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.719 should I pass the ball? So that might be a 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:43.839 little bit too much on his plate. But right now, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.719 I mean, we need all the help we can get, 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.280 and and the best way to get them, get them 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.640 acclimated to the game is get the ball out of 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:52.480 his hand, quick, easy, quick throws, right, get him some confidence, 0:11:52.559 --> 0:11:54.080 let him know that he can actually get in there 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.640 and make those plays. And then and then build off 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:58.360 of that. Right, So if you get the running game going, 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:01.199 he start getting some short passes. Defense starts sitting a 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:02.880 little bit trying to jump some stuff because there's a 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:04.679 rookie quarterback and they thinking that they can get some 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:06.360 picks off of them. And then you can go over 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:08.560 the top with play action. I think that that's just 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.559 the floor of the game that you have to try 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.840 to get get figured out. As we're talking about the 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.760 offense getting ready for this this Eagles in Cowboy game, 0:12:17.360 --> 0:12:19.719 the group that I haven't spoken about enough to me, 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.640 he's gonna be the most important here. It's the offensive mine. Yeah, 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:26.440 you know what you're getting with Jim Schwartz, he's bringing 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.440 the house pressure. They're gonna bring. They're gonna do some 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.440 twists and things up there with Fletcher Cox and Brandon 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.960 Graham and Benny Curry. Mean, they're gonna do some different 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:37.360 things here. And Zack Martin is supposed to be back. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:41.160 Zack Martin didn't reveal whether or not he might play 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:44.360 a little right tackler, but he didn't. But Joe Looney 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.880 could also be back. So is Joe Looney gonna be 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:49.719 a guard or is he gonna be at center? I mean, 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:52.320 we don't know yet. Mike McCarthy keeps so much of 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:55.600 this full secret like a hockey coach, and I kind 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.079 of laughed because he's sitting around here saying, well, you know, 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.400 unless Andy practices, uh, you know, I can't see him going. 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.319 So then we're going to let the whole week play 0:13:03.320 --> 0:13:05.400 out because Jerry, Jerry Jones goes on to the show 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.760 and yeah, don't will be back next we should be 0:13:07.800 --> 0:13:10.880 back next to me, right. We just took me back 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:14.400 to and Chris being remembers these the days when when 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:17.280 when Wade was here and so you know, uca Wade 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.480 sit there and had these press conferences and and try 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:21.600 and you know, play cool with people. And we're like, man, 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:24.679 Jerry already said that. And one time, man, it was 0:13:24.720 --> 0:13:26.480 some kind of player I can't remember what player that 0:13:26.520 --> 0:13:27.800 they were trying to talk about that they were going 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.760 to sign a release and and Way was like that 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.320 hadn't happened yet, and we're like, Jerry already told it did. 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:36.160 And then Way he was like, okay, whatever Jerry said. 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:40.880 I think at one point he asked, like something asked 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.760 him a question and a press conference, and he asked 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.800 before and answering the question, that's what did Jerry say? 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:49.880 Sounds yeah, that's a real similar to you. I haven't 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:54.200 been in those meetings we were talking about. I don't 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:57.480 know nothing about meetings, right, and and so that's why 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.520 I just laughed. So you McCarthy sitting here talking it 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.679 was fifteen ten ten fifteen to day and trying to 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:04.360 play Corey and then Jerry goes on one the fire 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:08.719 through the fan and uh, we won't be seeing next week, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:11.920 will be here. I'm laughing at that point, like, okay, 0:14:12.160 --> 0:14:14.320 so do you believe it's one hundred percent no chance 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:17.240 that Andy Dalton is starting this week? I don't think. Again, 0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:20.840 but you know younger practice today? No, No, I think 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.400 if he's no matter if he practices or not, if 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:28.480 he's clear medically, I think that he'll start if he's cleared. Okay, 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.440 And I'll say here's the most I think you'll see 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.760 maybe in a backup role. Which McCarthy did you know 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.200 say that you know he could back up the Nucci? Yeah? That, 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.720 but I I don't see him. I mean, plus, when 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.120 when when Jerry Jones goes out here on radio show 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:42.920 and says, yeah, we'll see we'll see you next week, 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.360 Like okay, I mean, honestly, if you're Andy Dalton, are 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:46.960 you are you trying to rush back to get back 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:50.240 to get behind that. I mean, I don't know you 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:52.000 get you getting you, You might get Lonely back, you 0:14:52.080 --> 0:14:55.320 might get Zack Martin back. I mean this this would 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:59.040 be the time. Listen, I hope he comes back. I 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.520 hope he's healthy enough to get out there and play. Uh. 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.000 If he's not, you know, and and he's he's and 0:15:04.080 --> 0:15:07.880 he's the backup guy. I don't you know, I know 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:12.360 you're positive. I don't know how long Nucciu is in 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.760 the game. I don't know how long he's gonna be 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.320 in the game. If you have Andy Dalton sitting back 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.200 there active as a backup, it's the Nucci's time. It's 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.920 just time to row. It's going to be. Okay, it's 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:24.880 going It's going to be when Jerry Jones comes out 0:15:24.880 --> 0:15:27.920 and says, we'll see Andy Dalton next weekend. That's where 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.520 I'm going. Okay, cool, you know, having done this long enough, 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.400 covered enough press conferences, and here, Jered, I'm gonna go 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.200 with Jared all right, these you know, you know, and 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.000 I'm not picking up my card. I'm just this is 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.480 just how it is. I've seen enough of these coaches 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.200 come out here and tell us this, and then we 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.560 go right around here and ask Jared. I mean, that 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:49.600 was the thing. Garrett would say things like, okay, where's Jared, 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.360 and then soon that was the beauty of Jerry show 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.840 up for training cap because we go get all our 0:15:52.880 --> 0:15:56.480 questions ask Jerry, because Jason would do what any coach 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:58.760 is supposed to do, be vague and just kind of 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.760 not really give you anything. Jerry gave it to So 0:16:00.800 --> 0:16:02.840 what do you think about that? Though? What do you 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.640 think about that? As as a head coach and you 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.960 got the owner out there, you know you're trying to 0:16:08.000 --> 0:16:09.760 hide something as the head coach, keep played close to 0:16:09.800 --> 0:16:12.240 the vest, and then it doesn't matter because you could 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:13.720 just go get the answer from the owner. What do 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:15.320 you what do you think about that outside looking at 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:17.200 not because you get to get the information from Jerry 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:18.960 and it makes it It makes it a little easier 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.560 and all that stuff. I'll set it up for you 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:23.200 two ways. And I used to say this about Jason Garrett. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:25.480 I never had any sympathy for Jason Garrett on these 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:27.800 issues because he turned down the head coaching job in 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:29.800 Atlanta and he turned out head coaching job at Baltimore 0:16:29.840 --> 0:16:31.520 to stay here. You knew what you were signing up for. 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.680 You played here, you knew you were an assistant. You 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.760 see what it was. So it just comes with the meal. 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.840 And as far as Mark Mike McCarthy goes, this guy 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:42.520 was trying to get jobs, wanted a job. This comes 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.280 with the meal. And by this time Mike McCarthy been 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.920 in the league long enough to understand and know how 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:50.840 it works. Not my question. Every everyone knows how it works. 0:16:50.960 --> 0:16:52.760 Do I Do I have any sympathy for these guys 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:55.640 know because they understand this is what is. It's almost 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:58.560 as the I harken this back to the Lake George Steinburner. 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.760 Everybody knew when they worked for the Yankees what the 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.040 boss was gonna say stuff, and you just had to 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:05.879 deal with it. Now, Joe Tory in the book The 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:09.320 Yankee Yars, Joe Tory had an amazing way of dealing 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.560 with George Steinbern and what he would say and then 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:14.080 how he would relate it to the players. So one time, 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.240 George Steinbern is mad at his first space with Tino 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.960 Martinez and he's killing him in the papers, and George 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.520 brings him in here. I don't need you to worry 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:25.119 about that. You're my guy. You're gonna be in the lineup, Okay, 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:26.879 just do your job. You're gonna be in the lineup. 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:31.200 And I thought Jason did an excellent job and understanding 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.760 here's Jerry and what he'll say, and here's how I'll 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.080 go about my business. And I thought he did a 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.359 very good job in handling that. And I think, and 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:41.560 I say this because he was here as a player 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:44.040 and his assistant. He understood what it was. Yeah. Well, 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:45.919 I'm not asking for sympathy. I'm just asking, like, what 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:48.760 do you think about it? Is it? Is it right? 0:17:48.840 --> 0:17:50.560 Is it wrong? Does it undercut you or whatever? Is 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:51.840 it just part of it? It's just part of it? 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:56.040