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Speaker 1: And welcome to the Drive Time Podcast, part of the
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Speaker 1: each and every day. How's it going, everybody? It is Friday.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Travis Wingfield, and I am here
Speaker 1: to bring you your daily dose of Miami Dolphins football.
Speaker 1: And on today's show, we're gonna hear from o J
Speaker 1: McDuffie of the Fish Tank Podcast and of course of
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins lore. We're gonna talk about the a f
Speaker 1: C Wild Card playoff game, the victory over the Chiefs
Speaker 1: Dan over Montana. A great game to talk about. O
Speaker 1: J talks about a linebacker for the Chiefs in that
Speaker 1: game that maybe was hunting him down the rest of
Speaker 1: his life after a block that o J put on
Speaker 1: Derrek Thomas in that game. We'll talk about that and
Speaker 1: much much more. Get the latest on injuries for Dolphins
Speaker 1: and Chiefs on Sunday. All of that and more on
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Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get the injury latest for Friday.
Speaker 1: The final game status report is available right now and
Speaker 1: for your Miami Dolphins, Eric Flowers and Savon Aukmen are
Speaker 1: going to be out for this game. They will not
Speaker 1: play on Sunday. Both linebackers e Land and Roberts and
Speaker 1: Kyle Van Noy returned to practice on Friday. They are
Speaker 1: listed as questionable for the game against the Chiefs. As
Speaker 1: for the Chiefs themselves, Damien Wilson was the only limited
Speaker 1: participant in practice. We'll get a game task for him
Speaker 1: for you guys on top News up on Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: dot com and writing Shotgun now on the Drivetime podcast
Speaker 1: is a special guest. We hear from them every Friday
Speaker 1: on Flashback, but this Friday we have o J McDuffie
Speaker 1: from the Fish Tank taking us back through the n
Speaker 1: a f C Wild Card playoff victory over the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs. Oh J, What's up, man, what's up, Travis.
Speaker 1: I'm good. It's good to see you. Friday is always
Speaker 1: a fun time here on the podcast, we've gotta kle
Speaker 1: let our hair down, talk about some Dolphins football get
Speaker 1: ready for a big game coming up, like we have
Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Chiefs. But we're going back too
Speaker 1: on this podcast and talking about a game that you
Speaker 1: played in and uh, you were texting me a little
Speaker 1: bit before we we jumped on the podcast here and
Speaker 1: you went back and watched this game and it's entirety right.
Speaker 1: I did. I did, man. I enjoyed every minute of it. Man.
Speaker 1: It's one of my favorite games of all time. It
Speaker 1: takes a little time from time to remember some things
Speaker 1: that happened when when you watch it back, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember that too, man. And it
Speaker 1: was one of those great games, my Tanna versus Marino,
Speaker 1: you know, fighting for who could get to the next
Speaker 1: level in the playoffs and hopefully to the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: super Bowl being right here in our own backyard. It was.
Speaker 1: It was one fun as game. I have to imagine
Speaker 1: that for an ext professional athlete like yourself, Like you said,
Speaker 1: how much fun it is to go back and watch
Speaker 1: that because like I'll go see, Like you know, I've
Speaker 1: got the VHS tapes from my high school days like
Speaker 1: that are the best thing in the world to watch
Speaker 1: to me, to watch myself play like eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: But being in an NFL game, a playoff game, especially
Speaker 1: on a national stage, I mean, does that ever get
Speaker 1: lost on you? Ors? It's still just really cool to
Speaker 1: know that you were part of that. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you forget about it. And it's so funny because
Speaker 1: I was watching that game and I showed my kids
Speaker 1: who never seen me play. They weren't born yet. You know,
Speaker 1: a couple of those clips, you know, there's a clip
Speaker 1: of me hitting Derek Thomas one time when I knocked
Speaker 1: the snot out of and I said, and I told
Speaker 1: you boys, I was tough. Look at me hit this
Speaker 1: linebacker right here. Not need to sin say to Derrick
Speaker 1: Thomas is looking for me the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: You know, the rest is so uh you know, because
Speaker 1: of that hit. It's a soft flow Ridian. So I
Speaker 1: was worried about public. You know, if he's gonna run
Speaker 1: into me their nightclub, he might run into their charity event.
Speaker 1: I thought he was gonna try to get back at me, man,
Speaker 1: but to show the kids that game and some of
Speaker 1: the players that I made now when it was it
Speaker 1: was always it's always fun to flashback. That reminds me
Speaker 1: of There was a great miked up clip with Chad
Speaker 1: Ocho Sinko and Ray Lewis where Chad cracked Ray Lewis
Speaker 1: and he goes, I tried to go up against Ray
Speaker 1: and I lost. But you but you got Derek and
Speaker 1: you you got him, so you had the head and
Speaker 1: the ball the rest of the game, like was he
Speaker 1: was he coming for you? You know? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I hope he was paying attention to me and not
Speaker 1: worried about getting it Danny or you know, stopping the
Speaker 1: run game. You know, I was a little bit of distracting,
Speaker 1: but I know showed that I was running from his ass.
Speaker 1: He's one of the best linebackers of all time. Good
Speaker 1: matchup there. I always enjoy watching the run blocking that
Speaker 1: occurred back then with the receivers, and they do it
Speaker 1: today as well. But you guys definitely had a different task,
Speaker 1: different role back then. Let's go ahead and jump right
Speaker 1: into this game. O J. You hadn't mentioned that you
Speaker 1: were super fired up for this podcast, and that was
Speaker 1: a big reason why. But you also mentioned there was
Speaker 1: a different sense of urgency around this game and a
Speaker 1: little more intensity than maybe a usual playoff game. And
Speaker 1: I know you talked about Marino versu. Montana. It was
Speaker 1: the first time they had gone up against each other
Speaker 1: since that Super Bowl? Was that kind of the sense
Speaker 1: of the urgency here? Where? Where did that urgency come
Speaker 1: from in this game? Yeah? We knew that, you know,
Speaker 1: we our team was stacked. You know, we knew the
Speaker 1: year before we had one of the better teams. We
Speaker 1: went into a week eleven or twelve with the best
Speaker 1: record in football, and we lost the last five games,
Speaker 1: and we had a home playoff game here. You know,
Speaker 1: Montana already had a couple of Super Bowl championships, and
Speaker 1: we knew that. You know, Danny was still fighting to
Speaker 1: get his So it was it was a huge game
Speaker 1: for Schottenheimer versus Don Shula. Shula had the torn achilles
Speaker 1: in this game, you know, had a little stewart to
Speaker 1: that game, and it was just a big game, especially
Speaker 1: having a home playoff game. You get an opportunity to
Speaker 1: play at home, you know, against a team that you've
Speaker 1: just beaten it was just a great opportunity for us,
Speaker 1: and we thought we had that team that can make
Speaker 1: it all the way through and play a home Super
Speaker 1: Bowl game. They showed him on the cart in that game,
Speaker 1: and you know he was he was still doing the
Speaker 1: same thing, chewing guys out, getting in the refs here
Speaker 1: and making his presence felt when he was on that car.
Speaker 1: Was there any difference from a player's perspective about the
Speaker 1: way Don Shula was? No, he saw everything still. You
Speaker 1: can still hear his voice from anywhere on the field
Speaker 1: or in the stadium, you know, and he just he
Speaker 1: wasn't as mobile. But hey man, when he got that car,
Speaker 1: because remember originally he was in a golf cart and
Speaker 1: that was just a little too balky. And then he
Speaker 1: got that little whatever scooter that he got, and then
Speaker 1: there was no hiding from him at that point, man.
Speaker 1: But the intensity was always there, and he he found
Speaker 1: you if you did something right or wrong, he found you.
Speaker 1: Well he did it in this game. We'll get to
Speaker 1: that here in just one second. But to kick the
Speaker 1: game off, I mean, you know, we we see offensive
Speaker 1: explosions pretty much every single week in the NFL these days,
Speaker 1: But I watched that that primetime highlight, and they were
Speaker 1: going back and forth showing how impressive the offensive success
Speaker 1: was for either of those teams. So the Chiefs go
Speaker 1: down and scored the opening touch the opening possession for
Speaker 1: a touchdown. But you guys come right back. And I
Speaker 1: found this part interesting. On that same highlight with Chris Berman,
Speaker 1: and it was Joe thisman filling in for Tom Jackson
Speaker 1: this week, he says, Marino comes right back with a
Speaker 1: bunch of guys you've never heard of, Mike Williams with
Speaker 1: the reception, And I was wondering how you would respond
Speaker 1: to that comment, because there were plenty of guys on
Speaker 1: that team, yourself, Irving Friar, Keith Jackson. These are players
Speaker 1: that you know, even a seven eight year old kid
Speaker 1: like myself knew at the time. So what's he talking about? Like,
Speaker 1: how would how would you respond to that if someone
Speaker 1: a sports catcher told you these are a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys no one's ever heard of. Yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: it's um it's not a very flattering thing to say,
Speaker 1: and of course, you know, I'm not a very flattering
Speaker 1: person at times. But at the same time, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think they really were talking about the fact that
Speaker 1: Terry Kirby was out and so Bernie Palmdy was our
Speaker 1: running back. Uh Keith Buyers out. James Saxon was our
Speaker 1: fullback in that game. You know, so we did have
Speaker 1: some key players out, but there was so much attention
Speaker 1: paid to Irvan Friar and at times myself and Chief Jackson.
Speaker 1: That guy's like Mike Williams made big plays. Guys like
Speaker 1: Irvin Spikes running back was able to make some big plays.
Speaker 1: Scotty Miller had a big first down in that game
Speaker 1: as well wide receiver. So I get a bunch of
Speaker 1: nobodies because he's never heard of, but I've seen those
Speaker 1: guys working practice and they were ready when I got
Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. Guys like you know, John Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: Johnny's brother Mike Williams, and and Scottie Miller are the
Speaker 1: ones that taught me the offense. You know, they knew
Speaker 1: more about the offense about anybody did. So they were
Speaker 1: ready to play. They just to get the opportunity because
Speaker 1: you know, at Seth would say a first round pick
Speaker 1: came in like myself, or we traded for a guy
Speaker 1: like Urban Fire and it kind of pumped him out
Speaker 1: of the rotation. Hey, you know, it seems like the
Speaker 1: Dolphins over if if you want to go this direction
Speaker 1: in the nineties, you know, the no name defense in
Speaker 1: the seventies is legendary. If you want to go that
Speaker 1: direction in the nineties with plenty of playoff appearances and
Speaker 1: then now in this defense that's frank second the NFL
Speaker 1: and scoring. You know, I've heard on national shows like
Speaker 1: they've got a bunch of no guy a bunch of
Speaker 1: names that no one's ever heard of. Hey, if that,
Speaker 1: if that's gonna be our badge, let's wear it, man, Like,
Speaker 1: I'll take that as long as we're winning football games.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't give a damn right. And I
Speaker 1: think that's important, travelers. I think it's really important to
Speaker 1: have a bunch of nobodies because you know, there's you
Speaker 1: don't have the ego problems that you have when you
Speaker 1: have a bunch of somebodies. You know, especially gonna look
Speaker 1: on the offense side of the ball. You know, you
Speaker 1: and I before and talked about what happened to our
Speaker 1: nineties three team. I think we had too many name
Speaker 1: guys on that offense, and with only one football it's
Speaker 1: tough to keep everybody happy, and I think that was
Speaker 1: our downfall and didn't make the playoffs ninety three. I
Speaker 1: think we still had quite a few of those guys
Speaker 1: at the end, but when we had those no name
Speaker 1: guys quote unquote, uh, they were the ones that were
Speaker 1: catalysts for our success in that playoff game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean you can put together a roster almost by design
Speaker 1: that way, right, like I think, and not to keep
Speaker 1: going back to the current team, but Brian Flores, I
Speaker 1: think has done a good job of making it more
Speaker 1: about the team and having guys that buying too that
Speaker 1: team first mindset over uh, you know, a star star
Speaker 1: minded mindset and maybe golf a tangent here o j Like,
Speaker 1: have you been around a team or a player where
Speaker 1: there was a guy that maybe thought that the rules
Speaker 1: didn't apply to him. And I know, you know, Jimmy
Speaker 1: Johnson would always say, one guy's made this team, he's
Speaker 1: number thirteen, Dan Marino or whatever his you know, famous
Speaker 1: comment was. But have you been around a situation where
Speaker 1: a player like that maybe wasn't the best, Like he
Speaker 1: was going on the field, but maybe the overall net
Speaker 1: game wasn't there because he was a problem off of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are. I mean, yeah, I've had a couple of
Speaker 1: teammates that were eye guys, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And it's kind of strange because you know, you look
Speaker 1: at football and it's the cliche, the ultimate team sport.
Speaker 1: But some guys thought it was all about them, you know,
Speaker 1: especially like I said, on the offense side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Defense is different. Defensive guys, they rally with each other,
Speaker 1: they go out there and you know, they do their job.
Speaker 1: They cover, they rushed past, and they make tackles. But
Speaker 1: on offense, you know, you've got a bunch of guys
Speaker 1: that want the ball in their hands. You know, then
Speaker 1: they become less team players. You know, you're supposed to
Speaker 1: be running off as a wide receiver on the back
Speaker 1: side to protect the guy on the front side, and
Speaker 1: you don't do it because your number is not called.
Speaker 1: That's a big problem. And we did have a couple
Speaker 1: of guys like that, and it became a problem in
Speaker 1: the huddle. I know, Danny had to deal with it
Speaker 1: before I got there, sometimes with Duper and Clayton. But
Speaker 1: when I got there and it was over Fiing mark
Speaker 1: Ingram and Keith Jackson, Keith Buyers Terry Kirby. I mean
Speaker 1: that that one football man. We had to stretch it
Speaker 1: a long way to make everybody happy, and it's it's
Speaker 1: not a good situation a lot of times. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: current Dolphins receivers coach joshkers Aard calls them brotherhood routes.
Speaker 1: You have to run routes sometimes that aren't that's not
Speaker 1: designed to get you the ball in the progression, but
Speaker 1: you have to do it to hold defenders in certain spots,
Speaker 1: whether it's his own coverage or you know, whatever might be.
Speaker 1: It's it's a loving guys doing their job. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's what's what's funn about Football's do your job exactly right,
Speaker 1: do your job. But let's let's go back to the
Speaker 1: game here and kind of, you know, it's funny we
Speaker 1: go no name because you mentioned Irving Friar, a name
Speaker 1: that we all know. And and he makes a catch
Speaker 1: on the opening drive to get the Dolphins into scoring range.
Speaker 1: But he does something that brings back memories of another
Speaker 1: earlier Dolphins team, and Burman, once again on the Highlight,
Speaker 1: mentions that Duriel Harris to Tony Nathan. He says, almost
Speaker 1: two decades earlier, did we talked about Shula on the
Speaker 1: car like I have to imagine he came over to
Speaker 1: the sideline after that hook and lateral attempt and maybe
Speaker 1: got an earful Yeah, you know what. And we did
Speaker 1: it again the next weekend too in San Diego, and
Speaker 1: that was that would end up being a fiord ladder.
Speaker 1: That end up being a fumble because it was a
Speaker 1: fill ladder. We got the ball back, so I mean
Speaker 1: that got to his head. It's best the fact that
Speaker 1: latterly to James Saxon, you know, I mean a fullback
Speaker 1: that has some of the worse hands I think in football.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was a risky move right there. But
Speaker 1: zax was ready made a play. But yes, she love
Speaker 1: you know, we weren't about all that, all that flare
Speaker 1: and yeah, of course that one play with you know,
Speaker 1: with Dario and Tony Nathan goes back in the day,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But at the same time, now, man,
Speaker 1: it was about you know, playing the game way supposed
Speaker 1: to be played. Irvan had all that all that yard
Speaker 1: we didn't really need that at that point. But Saxon
Speaker 1: almost scored on that play. But Shula wasn't about that
Speaker 1: most of the time. Yeah, you know, I didn't know
Speaker 1: about that until I went back and watched it. And
Speaker 1: it's funny you mentioned the Chargers game because when I
Speaker 1: was on YouTube watching the game, it said next video
Speaker 1: available was the divisional round and O J. I hate
Speaker 1: to tell you this, but that's actually my first like
Speaker 1: live Dolphins memory that I have was Toyanovitch missing that
Speaker 1: field goal in that game, and I had to watch
Speaker 1: the highlight of games. I didn't remember the game very
Speaker 1: well because I was like seven eight years old, but
Speaker 1: there was a couple of plays where they showed you
Speaker 1: kind of getting fired up and and they showed the
Speaker 1: four lateral. I couldn't understand the way that that ruling
Speaker 1: was made, but hey, you know, good for good for us.
Speaker 1: But but you think that had something to do with
Speaker 1: the latter row decision. They're like, we did it last week,
Speaker 1: we can do it again. Absolutely, I mean absolutely, it
Speaker 1: was successful a week before. And I think it was
Speaker 1: Irvan and Keith Jackson this time in that situation. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think once you started doing stuff like that, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the behind the back pass in the
Speaker 1: basketball game to work before we do it again. Usually
Speaker 1: it ends up in a turnover and that's what it was.
Speaker 1: Almost his ashes for us right there. Yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 1: I saw the highlight. I was like, what is he doing?
Speaker 1: You throw a like five yards forward? But it worked
Speaker 1: out in the I guess it didn't work down in
Speaker 1: the end, but on that play it did. So you
Speaker 1: guys go back down tied up, but the Chiefs come
Speaker 1: right back down the field fifty seven yard for Kimball,
Speaker 1: Anders and Juice, you know, going back to uh to
Speaker 1: Shula again. And I don't think I've ever seen Brian
Speaker 1: Cox make a worse tackle attempt in his career. He's
Speaker 1: known for blowing guys up, but he kind of comes
Speaker 1: in with the shoulder and just bounces off Anders on
Speaker 1: this play, and then Sula does chew him out. And
Speaker 1: as an offense, how do you guys responding something like
Speaker 1: that happens where a big play goes on the field
Speaker 1: after you just getting the end? So like, is that
Speaker 1: very deflating? Now? Our our offense just wanted damn ball back,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, We didn't care how it happened.
Speaker 1: You know, if you get a three and out, you
Speaker 1: know you punt of tools will take it, or if
Speaker 1: they scored testing, and we're gonna try to come right
Speaker 1: back and score two. You know, Brian Cox is the
Speaker 1: heart and soul of that defense, you know, so we
Speaker 1: know that. You know, if he didn't make a play,
Speaker 1: he'd find a way to make up for it later
Speaker 1: in the game. You know, I remember that play when
Speaker 1: I was watching it the other day. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of knocked him out of Troy's tackle. Toroy
Speaker 1: events was about to make the tackle, him and the
Speaker 1: Cox bunking down the sideline and then he was off
Speaker 1: to the racist. But you know, but you know, we're
Speaker 1: grown men, and I saw as a as a rookie,
Speaker 1: I saw how these grown men coaches and grown men
Speaker 1: players got into it. You know, the arguments were legendary.
Speaker 1: The four letter words they used were unbelievable. I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe that that we this guys talked to their coaches
Speaker 1: like that. So Sheula felt comfortable getting into Brian like that,
Speaker 1: and Brian understood that he messed up, so he had
Speaker 1: to go out there and kind of make amends. But
Speaker 1: that was part of That's part of the NFL game
Speaker 1: and a lot of locker. There was some no curse
Speaker 1: in that Penn State, not one coach or player allowed
Speaker 1: to cuss. But when I got to the NFL and
Speaker 1: the Shuler's locker room and it was it was very interesting.
Speaker 1: What was it? Was it mostly Brian or was it
Speaker 1: a lot of guys? Well, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of guys. I mean I've heard I heard Danny and
Speaker 1: you know Gary Stevens getting to a you know, get
Speaker 1: into a big time argument, you know, in a meeting,
Speaker 1: you know, and there was there were no kind words
Speaker 1: use either way, you know, it was just like anybody
Speaker 1: was able to go out there, and it was shocking
Speaker 1: to hear the amount of landis that's used in some
Speaker 1: of those locker rooms. Whereas you know, the other locker rooms,
Speaker 1: I've heard that there was you know, very little that.
Speaker 1: But ours was a bunch of grown men that had
Speaker 1: a lot in their minds, to put it that way.
Speaker 1: So this is probably a question for him, but he's
Speaker 1: not here today. Seth always joins us on these flashbacks Fridays.
Speaker 1: But you guys work together, you know, I guess co workers.
Speaker 1: I guess that the term for it. I mean absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: So did did you ever see Seth like catching ear
Speaker 1: full from somewhere or get you because he told me.
Speaker 1: Seth told me once, you haven't worked in the NFL
Speaker 1: until you've gotten chewed out by a head coach. I'm
Speaker 1: wondering if you ever saw anything with him and someone
Speaker 1: giving him the business. Oh I didn't, I didn't, man, Seth.
Speaker 1: Seth us he played it pretty cool, man, and he
Speaker 1: usually does things by the book, so it's hard for
Speaker 1: him to get chewed out. But you know, sometimes you
Speaker 1: can do everything perfect, Travis, and you still get chewed out.
Speaker 1: And so I'm sure he caught something from Harvey. I'm
Speaker 1: sure he caught something from Jimmy. I mean, who knows, man,
Speaker 1: But a lot of times it was never in my presence,
Speaker 1: but Seth, like he always does handing like a champ. Sure, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm no. Harvey had to give him the business. Quite
Speaker 1: a few kames. He's told me about a few of them.
Speaker 1: And maybe one of these days in the offseason, we
Speaker 1: can have a crossing our podcast where we just go
Speaker 1: into Seth's vault and let let him be the interview.
Speaker 1: Subjects told me, Man, I said, we gotta you know
Speaker 1: who was Seth Levin. We gotta do a podcast with
Speaker 1: it because He's got some great stories, man, and you
Speaker 1: know he likes to be behind the scenes too much
Speaker 1: of times. I said, we gotta put you out there
Speaker 1: at some point. Brother, he's so modest. I told him
Speaker 1: I was gonna buy the Seth shirt from the fish
Speaker 1: Tank that the merch and he goes. I told I
Speaker 1: told him, no one's gonna buy that shirt, but if
Speaker 1: Travis gets one, So I still got to make good
Speaker 1: on that and get the Seth shirt for him because
Speaker 1: he was saying, nobody's gonna buy that one, but gonna
Speaker 1: support my guy. You know, That's what's so so back
Speaker 1: in the game. You know, we we saw the game
Speaker 1: on Sunday with Miami getting a little bit chippy with
Speaker 1: the Bengals, and this one was kind of the same
Speaker 1: as well. And I'm curious if if you started this
Speaker 1: because of your your crackback on Brian on Derrick Thomas,
Speaker 1: but Willie Davis and Gene I can start throwing blows
Speaker 1: at one point in this game, do you remember that,
Speaker 1: And was that kind of festering over and what was
Speaker 1: the mindset as far as like the balance of well,
Speaker 1: we do want to keep its intensity, but we also
Speaker 1: don't want to get ourselves into a personal foul situation.
Speaker 1: It's a tough situation actually, and you gotta you really
Speaker 1: have to set a tone. And I think my block
Speaker 1: in the first quarter set a tone. At one point,
Speaker 1: I actually had another block on the kickoff re turn
Speaker 1: for Irvan Spikes that you know, you gotta try the
Speaker 1: rough guys up. I think once you started laying that
Speaker 1: wood on, some of those you know dbs, their their
Speaker 1: wide receivers want to do the same with our guy,
Speaker 1: you know, And and that's a that's a great, great
Speaker 1: message to send out there. You know, let them know
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long game. It's gonna be sixty minutes,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna give up or let up the
Speaker 1: whole time. So, you know, setting that tone on a
Speaker 1: linebacker and then seeing it on replay and then hearing
Speaker 1: the crowd's reaction, I mean, that's how I made their
Speaker 1: sideline that and it made us hype. So, I mean
Speaker 1: a playoff game, the intensity was unbelievable. You could hear
Speaker 1: the crowd was just incredible. It was so loud there.
Speaker 1: And I mean, you got Marino in Montana, but yeah,
Speaker 1: set in that tone right away, letting know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a long ass afternoon is huge and we we
Speaker 1: my wide receiver coach, it was Larry Cycle then. But
Speaker 1: you know, coach Robert Ford with Jimmy Johnson, you know,
Speaker 1: our job is to set the tone. You know, we
Speaker 1: gotta run all day and we gotta set the tone
Speaker 1: the secondary. And I think it carried over to both
Speaker 1: sides of football. You say that kind of reminds me
Speaker 1: of like in baseball when when someone gets thrown at
Speaker 1: the job for the picture of the next thing is
Speaker 1: to go out there and throw at someone else on
Speaker 1: their team. Kind of like that back and forth balance
Speaker 1: of of you know, the game within the game, and
Speaker 1: I think you saw that and this one certainly, and
Speaker 1: one of the big aspects of this game, of course,
Speaker 1: was the offensive fireworks. And later you guys are on
Speaker 1: a crucial touchdown march and um, you guys were tie
Speaker 1: it up and you had a on fourth and three.
Speaker 1: And again back to Berman and Tisman, they both raved
Speaker 1: on the on the highlight about your ability to win
Speaker 1: on third downs or in this case fourth down even
Speaker 1: even more of a money down play. What was it
Speaker 1: about the money down that brought out your best juice
Speaker 1: like that seemed to be when you really shine to
Speaker 1: the rose of the occasion, shine brightest. Yeah, I loved it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, what I loved most about
Speaker 1: the two Travis is the trust that Danny had it.
Speaker 1: You know, he knew I was gonna be in the
Speaker 1: right place at the right time. That was a little
Speaker 1: short when I caught I was gonna do everything I
Speaker 1: could to get to the sticks, you know, or run
Speaker 1: my route after sticks and make sure I got a
Speaker 1: couple of yards. More so, it's not even a question, um,
Speaker 1: and and that was that was cheap. I think at
Speaker 1: some point my career is over seventy of my catches
Speaker 1: were first down, you know, and then it you know,
Speaker 1: the more I started playing on the first and second
Speaker 1: down and it kind of dipped. But when I was
Speaker 1: just mostly playing on third down, I mean, that was
Speaker 1: my job to move the chains. And so that was
Speaker 1: always something I relish. Now, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: times it's gonna be Hella coverage on the usually two
Speaker 1: sets of eyes. You know, it's the guy over me
Speaker 1: and it's got to be helped somewhere. So I had
Speaker 1: to really pay attention to all that and still on
Speaker 1: my mark and Danny found a way to fit it
Speaker 1: in a lot of time. So but that was that
Speaker 1: was the fun part of it. You know, I used
Speaker 1: to call me a possessor receiver, right, I said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I make sure we keep possessing of the football. That's
Speaker 1: my job. And that's what we did. And you can't
Speaker 1: give a point if your if your offense is on
Speaker 1: the field. I'm wondering if this is a comparison you've
Speaker 1: heard or if you if you like it, if you
Speaker 1: don't like it, you can tell me as well. But
Speaker 1: there was on that play, you catch it and you
Speaker 1: kind of you kind of square up to to maybe
Speaker 1: try to locate the defender, and you almost retreat a
Speaker 1: little bit, but then once you realize there's no one
Speaker 1: around you, you immediately get north and south and o j.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of Jarvis Landry. Have you heard that
Speaker 1: comparison before? Yeah, you know, we're both nicknamed juice, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So everything it kind of carries over.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's one thing about it, because you know, Chap,
Speaker 1: I wasn't going out run anybody. I'm not buried anybody,
Speaker 1: so I might just lower my head, bring back my
Speaker 1: old running back days and get as much as I
Speaker 1: can straight ahead, man, And you know it's always important
Speaker 1: to know you're positioned on the field. But you're right
Speaker 1: on that play. If I recall Becau I was watching
Speaker 1: the other day, it was a hot route, so we
Speaker 1: had one hot coming off my edge and Danny had
Speaker 1: to get the ball to me right now, so I
Speaker 1: was a little bit short. I had it and then
Speaker 1: I retreated like you talked about. But then I said, man,
Speaker 1: let me just get north and style, get as much
Speaker 1: as I can and then keep this thing rolling. Then.
Speaker 1: But yet, Juice Landi is one of my favorite players
Speaker 1: of all times, man, And you know it's good to
Speaker 1: see him still playing. Well, yeah, he's He's one hell
Speaker 1: of a competitor. That's why I think that's why the
Speaker 1: comparison so so app with you guys. The way you
Speaker 1: guys both play the game with that high energy, that
Speaker 1: high level. I'm sure I'm sure defensive backs, you know,
Speaker 1: both for you and Jarvis had to make plenty of
Speaker 1: business decisions in their career. Better keep their head, Molett.
Speaker 1: That's you know, we talked about my hit earlier. My
Speaker 1: my hit I had on Derek Thomas is illegal now
Speaker 1: I get fined and probably kicked out a game this
Speaker 1: day and age. But Jarvis has had some borderline with himself.
Speaker 1: And I love this energy and his attitude when he
Speaker 1: was here and he continues up in Cleveland definitely. And
Speaker 1: you know, going going back to the game, you guys
Speaker 1: take the lead in the fourth quarter on a touchdown
Speaker 1: pass from Dan to Irving. And we had Irvin on
Speaker 1: the podcast over the summer and he was that confidence
Speaker 1: hasn't gone anywhere. I told him about a play where
Speaker 1: somebody pressed him and or gave him outside access. He goes,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't give me that access, Travis, I
Speaker 1: took that access. That was a great quote. How did
Speaker 1: how did he change the offense? Maybe? What did you
Speaker 1: learn from playing with Irvan Friar on your team? Man?
Speaker 1: What a professional? I mean Urban Friar Man? What are
Speaker 1: you going through in his life before he came to
Speaker 1: Miami and how he changed his life when he got
Speaker 1: to Miami and became the ultimate professional, the greatest pro
Speaker 1: man and taught me how to work out there. This
Speaker 1: guy at his age, you know he got here, what
Speaker 1: was he in his thirties when he got here, nobody
Speaker 1: out worked in the weight room, the running, you know,
Speaker 1: the work before practice, the work after practice. I mean,
Speaker 1: he was so much fun to watch, and he was
Speaker 1: one thing Irban told me like it was, which is
Speaker 1: funny is that he said, you know, juice man, They
Speaker 1: told me I lost the step, I said, and how
Speaker 1: do you respond? He said, I had a step to lose,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I was running four two
Speaker 1: to four three to maybe the four four, but I
Speaker 1: had a step to lose, you know, And he's right
Speaker 1: you you you had to pay attention to what he
Speaker 1: was doing. And he was still so fast, super strong,
Speaker 1: ring great routes, and he would knock the snot out
Speaker 1: of people. Man. That's where that locking intensity came from
Speaker 1: wide receivers in that secondary Irving was hitting defensive ends
Speaker 1: and linebackers too. I mean, he was just a great
Speaker 1: teammate to have it. I couldn't ask for a better person.
Speaker 1: That took, you know, to learn from when I first
Speaker 1: got in to the NFL. Yeah, it makes for a
Speaker 1: good pair when you but guys are both out there
Speaker 1: doing that forcing defensive back so like you said, keep
Speaker 1: their head on a swivel. And one defensive back that
Speaker 1: kept his head on the swivel In this game was J. B.
Speaker 1: Brown who grabs a pick in the end zone that
Speaker 1: looks like it might end the game with a ten
Speaker 1: point leading the fourth quarter, but the Chiefs get the
Speaker 1: ball right back and get the same result. This time
Speaker 1: it's a Marcus Allen run to the outside and Michael
Speaker 1: Stewart just flat out takes the ball out of his
Speaker 1: hands for a fumble force and recovery. What was that
Speaker 1: moment like when you guys may be realized ten point lead,
Speaker 1: ball in our possession about six seven minutes ago. I
Speaker 1: have to imagine total jubilation at that point, right, Yeah, absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: You know turnovers, when the when of those when those games?
Speaker 1: For when that game for us? Man, that the JB interception, Man,
Speaker 1: that was huge. You know they're going down and he
Speaker 1: makes a huge player right there. But then I don't know,
Speaker 1: I was watching that that clip and they said that
Speaker 1: that Marcus Allen poma might be overturned in today's game,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But hey, what a great
Speaker 1: play by Michael Stewart to get the ball back for
Speaker 1: us again. And you know for those two guys, you know,
Speaker 1: for my Tenda thrown interception and for the great Marcus
Speaker 1: Allen to to fumble right there. I mean, you couldn't
Speaker 1: ask for a better situation for us and for the
Speaker 1: two greats to be the ones that end up giving
Speaker 1: us that win in that game. It was huge, man.
Speaker 1: But defense came up big for us. Man. I was
Speaker 1: also watching young Tim Bowens in that game, who was
Speaker 1: actually having you know, he was just phenomenal. You know,
Speaker 1: we saw the greatness coming from him, you know, and
Speaker 1: on the inside of that defensive line, man, and it
Speaker 1: was just fun to look back at that. But those
Speaker 1: two plays right there were huge and obviously what we
Speaker 1: needed at that time of the game. I know, this
Speaker 1: was your second season in the NFL. Juice was was
Speaker 1: this your your most memorable game? Was another one that
Speaker 1: maybe tops it? No, listen right here, man, if there's
Speaker 1: a couple that I've had some personal stuff, and you know,
Speaker 1: of course Danny's hundred for one game is one of
Speaker 1: my favorites just because of some milestone for Danny and
Speaker 1: you know, me being a part of three touchdowns in
Speaker 1: that game against the Saints. But for playoffs, men, the intensity,
Speaker 1: it doesn't get any better than that, you know, playing
Speaker 1: against Montana and Marcus Allen and Dale Carter, the cornerback
Speaker 1: Derrick Thomas. I mean, the Chiefs were they were pegged
Speaker 1: to win it All as well that year. So it
Speaker 1: was just a fun atmosphere. I mean the stadium, and
Speaker 1: that's the way I remember the stadium. You know, the
Speaker 1: state has kind of gotten away from that, you know,
Speaker 1: the team not being you know, this year we've been
Speaker 1: really good, but you know, and partial stadium with the
Speaker 1: with the crowd, but I'm so used to that stadium
Speaker 1: being so loud and full of Dolph fans and just
Speaker 1: you know being hardly ever being able to hear anything.
Speaker 1: You know that those are the great days, man, And
Speaker 1: that day there, it was just unbelievable, like one o'clock
Speaker 1: or I don't know, afternoon game and it was just
Speaker 1: so loud and the energy was amazing. So yeah, it's
Speaker 1: definitely one of my favorites of all time. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of fun to watch the seventies seventy tho
Speaker 1: screaming Dolphins fans and on Sunday afternoon think this game.
Speaker 1: And then also the two thousand wild card playoffs over
Speaker 1: the Colts. There was just this real intense back and forth.
Speaker 1: And I mentioned you on the on the on the highlight,
Speaker 1: like there was a fist pumper just kind of getting
Speaker 1: pumped up, Like I love those moments where every single
Speaker 1: play is so crucial and so important to the outcome
Speaker 1: of the game. So Dolphins win this one seven seventeen.
Speaker 1: Go on next week and we dropped one to the
Speaker 1: Chargers at the buzzer with a missfield goal. But still
Speaker 1: a fun season to watch. O J. A big part
Speaker 1: of that. O J. What's coming up next year? On
Speaker 1: the fish Tank podcast? Now, we had Charles Jordan the
Speaker 1: Tank last week. What's coming up next week for you guys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've got a Lindo Malred coming up, man, And that's
Speaker 1: been great to get Lindo on because what Jason Sanders
Speaker 1: has been doing as a kicker man, he's just been
Speaker 1: so good for us and so clutch for us. Man,
Speaker 1: I thought, you know that to be if we thought
Speaker 1: it would only be fitting to get Lindo one who
Speaker 1: was the same way for us as a kicker man.
Speaker 1: And Lindo story is so great. You know how he
Speaker 1: ended up being in football from going from soccer and
Speaker 1: seeing that you know, whenever the kids they had on
Speaker 1: his high school team could barely kick the football, and
Speaker 1: he said he could do better than that. How he practiced,
Speaker 1: you know, it's kicking with you know, on on rough
Speaker 1: fields and just trying to hit a pole. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just an amazing story man. And then the journey
Speaker 1: that he had coming back home. You know, a kid
Speaker 1: that was born and raised down here coming back home
Speaker 1: to kick for the Dolphins. It was it was a
Speaker 1: special one man. You know, I didn't know what to
Speaker 1: expect from Lindo. He's usual a pretty quiet guy, but
Speaker 1: he had a lot to say on our podcast. Hey,
Speaker 1: when when a when a kicker arrives or maybe you know,
Speaker 1: you come to a team and they have a kicker,
Speaker 1: does he have to like make a certain amount of
Speaker 1: kicks or big kicks before he gets the respect of
Speaker 1: the rest of the the team, Like, how does that work? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it really it's hard. It's hard to get the respect
Speaker 1: of the team until you get in a game situation.
Speaker 1: And you don't get a game situation. You know, even
Speaker 1: preseason really doesn't count. You gotta get in there in
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter, you know, game on the line and
Speaker 1: you got a forty seven yard or when its muddy
Speaker 1: outside you're playing on the dirt, infield from the Marlins
Speaker 1: or something like that. You got a knock on those
Speaker 1: down to get that street cred, you know. For me
Speaker 1: as a return guy, I had to return with my
Speaker 1: my kick off against the Atlanta Falcons as a as
Speaker 1: an ever one pick in ninety three in order don't
Speaker 1: even appreciate me or accept me. So it's even worse
Speaker 1: for a kicker when you gotta wait till you get
Speaker 1: to a regular season game with the game one alive. Well,
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, fortunately we've had a Lindo Mari and
Speaker 1: Jason Senter is two of the best and franchise history
Speaker 1: here for your Dolphins over the last couple of decades,
Speaker 1: So look forward to that. On the Fish Tank podcast,
Speaker 1: O J. It's been a fun, fun podcast is always. Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time today and uh we'll see assume
Speaker 1: my friend you gotta tray. Thanks for having me, buddy
Speaker 1: in a way, he goes. O J. Mcduffee, former Dolphins receiver,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite guests here on the podcast. Every
Speaker 1: single week. We're getta have him and Seth. We'll have
Speaker 1: Seth back next week. He was not able to jump
Speaker 1: on the podcast with us. This time we'll get him
Speaker 1: back next week, but in the meantime, you guys check
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