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Speaker 1: I do need to quickly say a belated birthday on air.
Speaker 1: It's our very own Amber Garcia. We missed the birthday yesterday,
Speaker 1: but I gotta say it publicly. Happy birthday. Crazy. Wait
Speaker 1: a minute, I thought you were the ninth. I thought
Speaker 1: it was today, No. Eight eight fun cheese. I worked
Speaker 1: with you yesterday. I was walking in here with the
Speaker 1: thought it was on the ninth. It happens. Brian, don't
Speaker 1: feel bad, he serious mind, Mine's Monday, right, that's why
Speaker 1: because I know that, and then I think Mickey's is
Speaker 1: like the day before Helmet is next week on the
Speaker 1: fourth fourteenth. Yeah, we used to have a run when
Speaker 1: our boss used to take a salt. We remember, we
Speaker 1: used to all go to like we go we back
Speaker 1: on me, yeah, back on me. Okay, he never used
Speaker 1: to like, Okay, we see birthday things we did the
Speaker 1: summer celebration. Yeah, and then all of us in that
Speaker 1: one week, I thought your birthday was today. No, and
Speaker 1: you know, there was an opportunity for me to say
Speaker 1: something as you were, like, oh where are you dressed
Speaker 1: this way? Where are you like? And I'm just not
Speaker 1: wanting to go around and announcing not your own birthday. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Even then, I still haven't even posted anything of pictures
Speaker 1: or any kind on social day. Yeah, so it's all good.
Speaker 1: I swear I was gonna say weethday Monday, Monday, Monday, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but go ahead and forget it if you want, no,
Speaker 1: wait till Tuesday. Just tell him happy birthday on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: That worked, Damn. I swore. I was like, I know
Speaker 1: Amber's birthdays coming up, and because again it was all
Speaker 1: the row, it was Mickey me and then Helmet were all,
Speaker 1: yeah there Mickey coming up. Yeah it is what is
Speaker 1: it seventy? Yes, Sir turned fifty nine on Monday. Big birthdays,
Speaker 1: Big birthdays, all right, what a happy birthday? All right,
Speaker 1: So let's jump in. I did want to talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about Tyran Smith. Uh, he is returned to
Speaker 1: practice this week. What are we hearing about how he's
Speaker 1: looking and when possibly fans might be able to get
Speaker 1: a chance to see him playing a game. Um, I
Speaker 1: think he's I don't know if he's gonna play this week,
Speaker 1: but I think I do think they're kind of getting
Speaker 1: him ready. The twenty one day window is has been
Speaker 1: opened with him this week, so he can come back
Speaker 1: this game if they you know, they have the roster
Speaker 1: spot or how they how they do it. But I
Speaker 1: think they're kind of ramping him up. And sounds like
Speaker 1: there was a you know, they're trying to do that.
Speaker 1: They're they're trying to do that and give him, you know,
Speaker 1: some one on one reps um. Sounds like him in
Speaker 1: Tech McKinley had had a pretty good run, spirited um
Speaker 1: and you know, with every competition there's a winner, and
Speaker 1: I think Tyrn was the winner. From what it sounds like.
Speaker 1: So a couple of people have mentioned that that was
Speaker 1: the case. Yeah, yeah, it was very uh a dominant looking.
Speaker 1: He's looking pretty good. Yeah, I'll speak on what was
Speaker 1: open to the media and people everybody that was out
Speaker 1: there shooting video and things like that. He's moving around
Speaker 1: like he didn't just go through what he just went through.
Speaker 1: So physically he was starting to look just like goodal
Speaker 1: Tyrn Smith there. He looks strong, He looked like he
Speaker 1: can ben, he can move around and do everything that
Speaker 1: he needs to do for his position. So me, I
Speaker 1: was kind of hesitant with the thought of him coming
Speaker 1: back and just being like, Okay, what kind of shape
Speaker 1: is he going to be in jumping back in, especially
Speaker 1: remembering that he was kind of struggling a little bit.
Speaker 1: And I used the worst struggle very lightly because it's
Speaker 1: like struggle for Tyrant Smith and what you expect from him,
Speaker 1: not from the NFL in general. So I was kind
Speaker 1: of hesitating with the thought of him, Okay, what is
Speaker 1: that gonna look like? And he's not going to mess
Speaker 1: up what they got going on right now? And now
Speaker 1: that I saw him on like, oh screw it. Put
Speaker 1: him in let's see what he can do out there,
Speaker 1: because he looks good. Yeah, I think the week of
Speaker 1: practice was really good. They were excited that they had
Speaker 1: a plan. And I know that we've talked about it
Speaker 1: on the show leading up to and I know that
Speaker 1: we talked about an one to five three the fan
Speaker 1: of kind of the timeline, and it was going to
Speaker 1: be about ramp up and then kind of get him
Speaker 1: to practice the Colts game and then get him, you know,
Speaker 1: the Houston game, get him some of that work, and
Speaker 1: then throw him in for the Jacksonville game. What will
Speaker 1: be interesting to see if it's full on throw him
Speaker 1: into the Jacksonville game and have it or this team
Speaker 1: has shown the ability to kind of rotate offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Do you play him three series Peters for three series
Speaker 1: and then put him back in? How's that? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be a full game? So that's the next
Speaker 1: step that we need to figure out that, you know,
Speaker 1: come next Monday, I think we'll have a better idea
Speaker 1: of how they're going to want to play him. I
Speaker 1: know they want to get him involved with that Jacksonville
Speaker 1: game and get him ready for that Philadelphia game. So
Speaker 1: maybe that's the game where he goes full on through
Speaker 1: throughout the game. Yeah, it kind of feels to me
Speaker 1: like they may do the whole basketball you see early
Speaker 1: in the season in the NBA they kind of start
Speaker 1: figuring out the rotations. I kind of think they're gonna
Speaker 1: end up doing something like that where even at the
Speaker 1: guard position, left guard position, like you may be looking
Speaker 1: at different combinations of giving them Govern some opportunities with
Speaker 1: Tyron when he's back, and giving Tyler Smid some opportunities
Speaker 1: with him, and then kind of figure out what your
Speaker 1: rotation looks at and what the best pairing is. You know,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, you say that, and it's absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think Connor McGovern has done
Speaker 1: anything for him to lose his job, you know, I
Speaker 1: think Connor McGovern has you know, the Giants game, I
Speaker 1: mean there was a struggle on that left side, I
Speaker 1: want to say, because of what the Giants were doing
Speaker 1: blitz and wise, and I don't think they had a
Speaker 1: whole hell of a lot of practice time getting ready
Speaker 1: for all the pressure they saw off that edge. I
Speaker 1: mean they were over there, both him and you know,
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith Rover there fighting their rear off to try
Speaker 1: and kind of hold things together. But you know, this
Speaker 1: isn't one of those things where you just say, well,
Speaker 1: thank god, they're gonna put Tyler Smith in their left
Speaker 1: guard because McGovern has been poor. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: the case at all. I think they're in a situation
Speaker 1: right now, and I think that's why they're trying to
Speaker 1: kind of they got some early look. They're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's see what Tyler looks like. Maybe it might be
Speaker 1: a situation where we'll just keep mcgoverned to guard and
Speaker 1: if we could work Tyler Smith in and out of
Speaker 1: the lineup occasionally. But man, I don't think there's anything
Speaker 1: anything wrong with what Connor mcgoverne has done it. And
Speaker 1: by the way, your center's playing a lot better too.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're center. Just I think the center at
Speaker 1: his best game last week. I really really do watching
Speaker 1: him play. So you know, the alliance coming together, and
Speaker 1: you're right a little bit like a basketball trying to
Speaker 1: figure out the rotation of the team. So that all
Speaker 1: being said, which maybe would you guys go at left
Speaker 1: guard right now when Tyron's back, who do you think
Speaker 1: should be the guy that's out there with ty Um.
Speaker 1: I also think there's another element too, the fullback, the
Speaker 1: full situation, where does McGovern add something they're a lot
Speaker 1: more than McEwan, or does McKellen add more because he
Speaker 1: also can play tied in and it gives you some versatility,
Speaker 1: or you can jump in the kettle too when they
Speaker 1: yeah he's the kettle jumper. Yeah yeah, McGovern laam brother.
Speaker 1: There'd be athletic move would be McGovern to get in
Speaker 1: there wouldn't be shocked if he did. I think he's
Speaker 1: sneaky athletic. I think it'd be a viral video of
Speaker 1: maybe some disaster, maybe some jumping kind of hitting the shoulder,
Speaker 1: bound faced a little bit at feet up in the
Speaker 1: air and you know he'd not get out. They'd have
Speaker 1: to push the kettle over and get him out. But
Speaker 1: does he get in and keep it upright? That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. You kind of your
Speaker 1: foot gets caught on the edge the lip and now
Speaker 1: you're over the top and you're kind of fumbling around
Speaker 1: in there. Do you think Peters could get in? No? No,
Speaker 1: he was a former tight end, so does have a
Speaker 1: little athleticism. You know you mentioned this about the uh
Speaker 1: you mentioned about the fullback stuff. But I just kind
Speaker 1: of feel like, though, maybe this is an opportunity to
Speaker 1: give and this is probably gonna sound terrible for everybody,
Speaker 1: maybe this is an opportunity to give Tyler Smith a
Speaker 1: little bit of a break. You know, he's you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about rookie Wall and McCarthy talked about it today,
Speaker 1: and you know, he played the entire training camp. You know,
Speaker 1: he played. He's played all season under immense pressure. I know,
Speaker 1: the first five or six games, there was so much
Speaker 1: pressure on him because is this kid gonna bust? He
Speaker 1: can he play left tackle? Wait? He played left tackle
Speaker 1: a Tulsa. Well, he didn't play tackle at all. He
Speaker 1: played tackle, He played guard and there was a lot
Speaker 1: of things. This might give him an opportunity maybe use
Speaker 1: him as the full back guy some too, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a really athletic guy, and we see
Speaker 1: him on the sweeps and the polls and strength with
Speaker 1: strength exactly. So it might be an opportunity for them
Speaker 1: to pull back on him a little bit and just
Speaker 1: let him kind of catch his breath and then and
Speaker 1: then you know, and then incorporate him as his need be.
Speaker 1: Would you guys worry about him? Taking a step back,
Speaker 1: if not at all, not playing, not at all, not
Speaker 1: at all. He's a young guy, young smart guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing about it. And he to be honest
Speaker 1: with you, and I'm probably speaking out of turn here.
Speaker 1: I think he might welcome it. I know he wants
Speaker 1: to play, but there might be a time where and
Speaker 1: he knows that Tyrn Smith, I mean, he was competing
Speaker 1: at left guard. He wasn't competing at tackle. He was
Speaker 1: thinking how do I be a left guard? And I
Speaker 1: think it's good he's playing. I think he's I think
Speaker 1: he's exceeded anything that we really thought about him playing.
Speaker 1: I know I did, because there was I was there
Speaker 1: really was a battle left guard. There was a battle there,
Speaker 1: but you know between and there was a talk about McGovern,
Speaker 1: you know, probably winning that job. So if you if
Speaker 1: you could pull it back and give him a little
Speaker 1: break but incorporated him when you need, like you say,
Speaker 1: the basketball rotation, or if him and McGovern kind of
Speaker 1: figure out the fullback thing a little bit. Initially, I
Speaker 1: wasn't too fond of the idea of just sliding Tyler
Speaker 1: to guard and then take it out in my govern
Speaker 1: because I'm like, okay, the least pieces that you can
Speaker 1: move around the better if it's working. But then when
Speaker 1: Nick mentioned again the fullback situation in McGovern and we've
Speaker 1: seen what that can look like before and he has
Speaker 1: worked for the Cowboys, it got me to think, Okay,
Speaker 1: that would be really interesting to see again, especially this
Speaker 1: part of the season where most team kind of know
Speaker 1: what you're doing. You've put a lot of your stuff
Speaker 1: already on film. Now you're talking about an element that
Speaker 1: you haven't really going out there. You can show more
Speaker 1: new things as well as like yesterday we were talking
Speaker 1: at about Dad in running games, start doing different things.
Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to show everything and maybe save
Speaker 1: some things for the playoffs as well, But it'd be
Speaker 1: interesting if that's the spot that and I would be
Speaker 1: interested to see if if Tyler Smith his opinion, like
Speaker 1: would he say he would be wanting to move back
Speaker 1: to guard and stay there and see how he feels confident,
Speaker 1: you know, confidence wise and all that. But it's a
Speaker 1: good place to be in and to be able to
Speaker 1: be at this point of the season just kind of
Speaker 1: thinking about the different things that you can possibly do
Speaker 1: and for them to all kind of have a positive outlook.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have three games, Well then you take a
Speaker 1: look at Jacksonville, but I know three games where you're
Speaker 1: gonna have pretty good defensive fronts when you talk about Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: Tennessee and then also you know with the Commanders at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. You know, I mean that's
Speaker 1: to me, I think you kind of that that would
Speaker 1: be the thing. Do you do you feel good enough
Speaker 1: about Tyler Smith playing left guard against those those tackles
Speaker 1: that you're probably gonna have to face in those you know,
Speaker 1: in those games, you know, do you feel good enough?
Speaker 1: Mean you or would you want the experience of McGovern
Speaker 1: in there? You know? Yeah, I mean nothing, it gets
Speaker 1: either one of those guys that on that left side.
Speaker 1: I think they've done a really nice job. You're right,
Speaker 1: tackle has done a nice job. Your center's done a
Speaker 1: nice job. I mean, they they talk about continuity, but
Speaker 1: this team can afford to get away with it a
Speaker 1: little bit, you know. Good, All right, let's let's go. Actually,
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Speaker 1: Let's take some questions from the fans out there. We
Speaker 1: got a question first from Droco Rico. He says, well,
Speaker 1: James Washington play this Sunday. What are we What are
Speaker 1: we hearing about James Washington and his return. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna play, all right, he's gonna play. I talked
Speaker 1: to him yesterday. He's ready to go. Excited. Yeah, he's excited.
Speaker 1: And also he told me he was like that, well,
Speaker 1: you know, he doesn't know all of the routes obviously yet.
Speaker 1: I mean because he hasn't practiced a whole lot, but
Speaker 1: expect him in his speed. He's a down the field
Speaker 1: threat guy. I think when you see him out there,
Speaker 1: he'll have something. He'll take some shots down the field,
Speaker 1: and that's something that we really haven't seen a lot
Speaker 1: of here, you know, lately, with with you know, they
Speaker 1: don't throw it down the field a lot. Are you
Speaker 1: shocked that they haven't done that more with Cooper? I
Speaker 1: mean with Gallop because Gallup is a guy that throughout
Speaker 1: his career, he and Dak have had I think more
Speaker 1: than any other receiver on the team. They've had that
Speaker 1: kind of chemistry. Well, they'll take those shots with Gallop
Speaker 1: and he'll come down with the ball and a lot
Speaker 1: of those situations. Have you been surprised they haven't done
Speaker 1: that more? No, because I kind of feel like that
Speaker 1: there that there's still some concerns about his knee, you
Speaker 1: know that, And that's how that's how Washington got hurt.
Speaker 1: His foot got hurt. He got a vertical route on
Speaker 1: the left side, ball goes up, he gets tangled up,
Speaker 1: and then now he breaks his foot. So I think
Speaker 1: there's some things that I think that Gallup is getting confident,
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong about that. I just don't know
Speaker 1: if they want to exp bows him to him going
Speaker 1: all the way down the field and going up for
Speaker 1: ball and getting tangled up and coming down. Funny, it
Speaker 1: could be a little bit about the confidence factor there.
Speaker 1: I think that. I think the more that he plays,
Speaker 1: the better he feels about his knee. And they've they've
Speaker 1: done a great job him and Britt Brown of coming
Speaker 1: back healthy and all that. But I just don't know
Speaker 1: if they want to expose that. But we'll see. With Washington,
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean, that's a guy that you know
Speaker 1: when back in the day, he was a vertical player
Speaker 1: until Ben Roethlisberger became washed, you know, and then that's
Speaker 1: you know, once he was washed, they weren't throwing the
Speaker 1: ball down the field anymore. Yeah, right, know what it is.
Speaker 1: And I hope I'm wrong. I hope Washington gets out
Speaker 1: there and starts doing some things. I felt really really
Speaker 1: bad on how things went downmy he started training camp,
Speaker 1: and since the moment he got there, he was like
Speaker 1: he was dealing something. He kept going out there trying
Speaker 1: to fight it off. And then it just progressively got
Speaker 1: to the point where he was out and how to
Speaker 1: go through. They never saw him him and told Burton
Speaker 1: those guys during the OTAs or the mini camps there
Speaker 1: anything like that, you never saw him. And then he
Speaker 1: got to training camp and basically the first day he
Speaker 1: got hurt. And so people on Twitter asking me what
Speaker 1: do you expect from Washington, I'm like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've seen him practice one time. You know, it's kind
Speaker 1: of I mean, I know what he was at Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: but are you expecting the same thing here. I like
Speaker 1: the fact that Nick has talked about that maybe you'll
Speaker 1: see some downfield throws, you know that that seems like
Speaker 1: a pretty good way to kind of, you know, get
Speaker 1: a guy going again. Yeah, And from watching him at practice,
Speaker 1: and I trust the scouts. Obviously he has talent. He
Speaker 1: wouldn't be here if he didn't. But there's just something
Speaker 1: about him, and like his physique and body type that
Speaker 1: that just doesn't match with I guess my prototype for
Speaker 1: what I would like in a wide receiver, and I
Speaker 1: just I just have That's why me personally, I don't
Speaker 1: see it when people say, why is there not that
Speaker 1: much excitement. Me personally, I just don't see him being
Speaker 1: I guess that athletic or making those type of catches
Speaker 1: that you would be like super impressed with. But again,
Speaker 1: he's here for a reason, so I'm just battling with
Speaker 1: that with me what I personally like in a wide
Speaker 1: receiver versus what he actually looks like health wise. He's
Speaker 1: moving around pretty well and he looks ready to go,
Speaker 1: and we've been saying it seemed like he's been ready
Speaker 1: to go for he hasn't been fully I guess given
Speaker 1: the green light. But hopefully we will get to see
Speaker 1: it this weekend and finally see what he can actually do.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take a phone call from Stan in
Speaker 1: Orange checksas stand up. How are you doing guys? Happy
Speaker 1: birthday and bar thank you? Hey, I just had a
Speaker 1: quick question. Do you think the Cowboys have a package
Speaker 1: or two you for Turpin and they're just not showing it.
Speaker 1: They're waiting for the playoffs. Maybe the Eagles just think
Speaker 1: to God's electrifying and he could really give a spark
Speaker 1: here and there. All right, thank you very much, thank
Speaker 1: you appreciate the all. McCarthy was asked about that today
Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, we haven't seen much because the
Speaker 1: question came up about Turpin playing. Really he's been playing
Speaker 1: the full year because of the USFL stuff, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like coming out of the buy
Speaker 1: that they would have this would be an opportunity for
Speaker 1: them to sit down and incorporate some ideas of how
Speaker 1: they want to play with Turpin, and I do. I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna have some games at the end. You're
Speaker 1: absolutely gonna have to win Philadelphia Titans. Maybe the Commanders
Speaker 1: that that game is all going to probably be for
Speaker 1: some type of positioning and that's when you break out
Speaker 1: those plays. That's when you break out those plays on
Speaker 1: third down that you maybe you have some type And
Speaker 1: I know I'm not gonna use the words screen because
Speaker 1: his team can't screen worth it Dan, but they're gonna
Speaker 1: do something to kind of figure out how to get
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands. I think they absolutely got
Speaker 1: stuff for him. They have to, and you know, I
Speaker 1: think this week is going to be a big week
Speaker 1: for him. I'm I'm predicting a touchdown for him on
Speaker 1: maybe even on offense, but definitely a pot return. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna make him pint a lot. Thank Houston
Speaker 1: it's a lot in this game. Field positions are going
Speaker 1: to be important. I think they you know, you've been noticing,
Speaker 1: they don't kick it deep to him that much. They
Speaker 1: angle away from him. That's why I think he's an
Speaker 1: underrated weapon on this team. He's done a really nice job,
Speaker 1: but I do think he gets chances this week. I
Speaker 1: think he takes one of the house. All right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a call from Mark Quis in Virginia. Mark
Speaker 1: Quis it up, Hey, how y'all doing breakthrough? I'm good.
Speaker 1: I think timing, of course, he's going back to less.
Speaker 1: I think Tyler should go to the left guard. I
Speaker 1: think if a three year guy, three or four year
Speaker 1: guy in McGovern is battling with a rookie, I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a competition. So I think if he got
Speaker 1: all this upside, the people wanted to keep him at
Speaker 1: that tackles, it should be easy to move him over
Speaker 1: to guard, you know, and let him build there. Because
Speaker 1: I really think that was coach be regarding him, not
Speaker 1: actually beating up McGovern in training camp. I think they
Speaker 1: wanted to rookie to earn it, and that's why they
Speaker 1: kept saying that. But I think if Tyro would have
Speaker 1: been healthy, Tyler would have been right beside him when
Speaker 1: the season started. So that's my thoughts. All right, thanks,
Speaker 1: so call I mean, he went through all of training
Speaker 1: camp and he hadn't beaten him out yet, and so, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I hear what you're saying in um the
Speaker 1: off season. I mean I get it. If his offseason,
Speaker 1: let's play Tyler and and let's build him, because yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, but it's not like a third
Speaker 1: year vet is like old. I mean like he's he's
Speaker 1: still kind of developing as well. McGovern is developing too.
Speaker 1: But you got to play the guy that will keep
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott upright, You gotta face the guy against Philly
Speaker 1: or whoever, Tennessee, you know, Jacksonville, all these teams you
Speaker 1: gotta face. You gotta put the best left guard that
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing and understands what this guy's doing
Speaker 1: and what we need to do. And if it's not
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith tomorrow, then he'll be Okay. This coaching staff,
Speaker 1: this coach, this offensive line, everything this is about this year.
Speaker 1: It's not about the future. So yeah, he might be
Speaker 1: better at some point, but it's not today. Very well said,
Speaker 1: you know, and coaches get into a mode to what
Speaker 1: they what they do. It's about to trust and not
Speaker 1: that they don't. You know, it's not that they fully
Speaker 1: don't trust Tyler Smith, is they They do trust Connor McGovern.
Speaker 1: And I think there was a time where Connor McGovern
Speaker 1: was not the favorite of Joe Philbin. I think Connor
Speaker 1: McGovern has worked in the off season, has built himself up,
Speaker 1: has gotten better as he's you know, as he's played,
Speaker 1: and I think Joe Philbin now respects him. I think
Speaker 1: Joe Philbin likes him. I think initially there wasn't a
Speaker 1: time that wasn't a Joe Philbin guy, you know, that
Speaker 1: was somebody else's guy. So I kind of feel like
Speaker 1: that that that they're going to go with the guy
Speaker 1: that they feel the most comfortable with. And that's not
Speaker 1: a slam on Tyler Smith. It's just that everything that
Speaker 1: Nick just said is absolutely right about you know, knowing
Speaker 1: what to do, play in the position, being comfortable there,
Speaker 1: and you know, and going forward. I mean, just just
Speaker 1: look at the Odell thing. I mean, the whole situation
Speaker 1: is about this year, when I'm worried about it next
Speaker 1: year and we'll worry about next year, and next year
Speaker 1: we're worried about this year. I was going to ask you, guys,
Speaker 1: do you think and we know that, I mean on
Speaker 1: old line is not really an area where you are
Speaker 1: constantly rotating guys or anything not ideal, right, but is
Speaker 1: there any concern or how highly or percentage wise concern
Speaker 1: as to Tyren Smith getting re injured at some point?
Speaker 1: And in that instance, I mean, is it like okay,
Speaker 1: you just keep him in see how far he can take,
Speaker 1: or do you try to ease his load by just
Speaker 1: maybe and again, you don't rotate guys really there, but
Speaker 1: could this be a scenario where maybe that's something you
Speaker 1: would even try to do, where you now rotate him
Speaker 1: with a guy like Tyler Smith. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think that. I think you're onto something though. I think early,
Speaker 1: maybe even in the Jacksonville game, that when they get
Speaker 1: him back, it might be a rotating system. And then
Speaker 1: you determine like, Okay, everything's cool, everything's good, full on,
Speaker 1: let's go against Philadelphia. Do us to start at left tackling?
Speaker 1: If they play seventy five plays, he's gonna play all
Speaker 1: seventy five plays. That's your hope, but yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's some there's some thought about getting him acclimated, and
Speaker 1: that Jacksonville game might give you the opportunity to rotate
Speaker 1: him a little bit until you kind of figure out
Speaker 1: that's what he needs to do. I think you're one
Speaker 1: hundred percent right about that, because that's really what happened
Speaker 1: in training camp. If you think about it, they didn't
Speaker 1: move they didn't completely move Tyler Smith there. They wanted
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern to get some left guard reps because to
Speaker 1: protect themselves if and win something happened to Tyrn Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's why they both kind of did some things there.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you can go full blown like
Speaker 1: Tyler Tyrn's the guy left. You know, can someone get
Speaker 1: a nickname? I mean Tyler Smith, Tyrn Smith. Well see
Speaker 1: now that young guy. Can you wonder though, if they
Speaker 1: would go back to Tyler Smith or now, is this
Speaker 1: is Jason Peters the guy? Yeah, if Tyrn, if Tyran
Speaker 1: is not, If Tyrann's not in, is it Jason Peters
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna play the left tackle. We get
Speaker 1: to a point where we got this many options to play. No,
Speaker 1: it's a good problem to have, by the way really
Speaker 1: great problem, but that they need they you know, they've
Speaker 1: kind they've kind of set it up to where if
Speaker 1: something happens to Tyron Smith, that Jason Peters is the
Speaker 1: left tackle. Yeah, the way it's set up. But let
Speaker 1: me ask you this, Amber, I got the impression you
Speaker 1: guys took it a little took the answer a little
Speaker 1: differently in the way I thought you were asking. The
Speaker 1: way I thought you were asking was not necessarily easing
Speaker 1: him back in, but even going beyond that, going to
Speaker 1: the Philly game and the Titans game, and maybe even
Speaker 1: into the playoffs, do you keep rotating him in and out,
Speaker 1: Tyrn in and out in order to lessen his load
Speaker 1: and hopefully keep him healthy. Is that the way you're
Speaker 1: asking it. Yes, And at the same time, you're keeping
Speaker 1: a guy like Tyler Smith right ready in case something happens,
Speaker 1: like you're not just let's tell you if he doesn't
Speaker 1: move to guard you, you keep him active and out
Speaker 1: there rather than giving him, let's take three weeks off
Speaker 1: where he's not playing. See I what are your thoughts? One,
Speaker 1: I was willing. I was willing to give him a
Speaker 1: little bit of a mental and physical break. That's what
Speaker 1: I was thinking about because if you know it, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think it's necessarily cut and dry
Speaker 1: yet what they're gonna do it left guard? I don't
Speaker 1: but but I have a feeling if something happens to
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, it's sounds like they're getting Jason Peters ready
Speaker 1: to play left tackle, which to me, I'm like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute. Tyler Smith played the majority of the whole year.
Speaker 1: You know. I think everything you guys are saying comes
Speaker 1: down to how he plays. Because when anytime you rotate
Speaker 1: players or in any sport, if there's a huge drop off,
Speaker 1: then obviously you don't do it that much. And I
Speaker 1: think we have to just see how Tyron plays. If
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith plays at a high, high level and he
Speaker 1: is a much better player than Tyler Smith, I don't
Speaker 1: think you'll see that that often. But I think the rotation,
Speaker 1: I don't think you see the rotation that often if
Speaker 1: it's a big, big chan But but would you But
Speaker 1: I think that's the question she's asking, would you consider
Speaker 1: doing that, because because at other positions, maybe you would
Speaker 1: consider it more. I think the point she's making his
Speaker 1: offensive line. Obviously they don't typically do that, but because
Speaker 1: this player is as the injury history that he does,
Speaker 1: does it make sense for the Cowboys And we've seen
Speaker 1: they've They've done it more than you've seen most teams
Speaker 1: do it when it comes to rotating an offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: Do you think they should have a game plan what
Speaker 1: they say, We're gonna play Tyron, but we're only gonna
Speaker 1: play him for certain number of snaps per game because
Speaker 1: we're trying to make sure that he stays healthy throughout
Speaker 1: this run. I would do it against Jacksonville. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it again. If he shows me that he could
Speaker 1: play and he's capable of planning, I'm gonna ride him
Speaker 1: until they set Yeah, you're gonna ring every little more.
Speaker 1: I get it, and I and I and I. You're
Speaker 1: right though, there's a there is an injury history there,
Speaker 1: and you're just hoping that he can get through this
Speaker 1: next month and then through the playoffs. That's what you're
Speaker 1: really But if it happens, what's that happens? Then I'm like,
Speaker 1: put Tyler Smith back at left tackle, put McGovern at
Speaker 1: left guard, and go play stuff and don't worry. And
Speaker 1: now in the off season we'll talk about what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do with Tyron Smith yet to remember the coming
Speaker 1: out of the Jacksonville game. You have back to back
Speaker 1: short weeks. You've got a six days before the Eagles game,
Speaker 1: and then you've got five days before the Titans game.
Speaker 1: So that's rare for an NFL schedule to have back
Speaker 1: to back, a one short week and then a shorter
Speaker 1: week to follow it up. So some of this stuff,
Speaker 1: everybody's got to be ready to go for things like that.
Speaker 1: And that might be also another reason why you say
Speaker 1: maybe Tyron doesn't play the full scope in both of
Speaker 1: those games, because you might say, hey, we got those
Speaker 1: back to back short weeks, he may need a little
Speaker 1: more time to get ready, So we might want to
Speaker 1: mix those those reps up a little bit. Between all
Speaker 1: those guys. Once again, great problem the half. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: here in the final segment, and then at the end
Speaker 1: of the segment, we're gonna get the much anticipated predictions
Speaker 1: of what we think will happen this weekend. Cowboys versus
Speaker 1: Why does that look right over his glass? Like what? No,
Speaker 1: I just I was thinking you're gonna say something that
Speaker 1: we're gonna get the penalty shootout again between Brazil and
Speaker 1: because we're getting close again, it's gonna be one. We
Speaker 1: got there in there in plus minutes. We're all about
Speaker 1: to understand that. Yeah, we're all about that. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got two minutes of added time here to win one game.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the predictions, that'll be interesting. Yeah, I'm sure
Speaker 1: we got lots of great predictions. Nobody scores have happened
Speaker 1: in extra time? Best correct? Yes? Oh wow? Yeah? Wow?
Speaker 1: Is that is that? It rare? Well, it went ninety
Speaker 1: minutes and nobody scored, and they went to overtime, and
Speaker 1: they don't do overtime like sudden death. It's just you
Speaker 1: play a thirty minutes. It sounds like Tampa Bay on
Speaker 1: Monday night. So they both scored. Yeah, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get back to it. We got a call from Brandon
Speaker 1: Las Vegas. Brandon, what up? What's going on? Guys? Just
Speaker 1: go to the question there. When it comes to the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it seems like when they have and I hope I'm
Speaker 1: not nit picking here, and Nick is kind of touched
Speaker 1: on it for years. If I'm not mistaken, they'll find
Speaker 1: plays and they'll run plays that work, and they'll have
Speaker 1: some success with them, and then they feel like they're
Speaker 1: now smart and everyone so put those plays in the
Speaker 1: tuck and they won't run them anymore. Specifically, the lead
Speaker 1: draw against the NFC North teams. They had a lot
Speaker 1: of success running the lead draw against I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was against just because it was they were
Speaker 1: getting a certain look from the front that the NFC
Speaker 1: North teams were playing, but they had a lot of
Speaker 1: success running that, and I just wonder why they don't
Speaker 1: run the lead draw as much as you would think
Speaker 1: they would when they have success with it. It was
Speaker 1: one of the sainful players in the early nineties and
Speaker 1: it is still a great running player. And if I
Speaker 1: could piggyback off, that really one of my favorite plays
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys would run. And I'm not for to say,
Speaker 1: sure if it was under Bill Callahan, but they would
Speaker 1: run this, they would pull Tyrant shift through the A
Speaker 1: gap and he would get up feel he would go
Speaker 1: get the linebacker, They'll get the safety whoever was in
Speaker 1: the in the hall at that time. And they don't
Speaker 1: even run that play anymore. And it was a really
Speaker 1: successful play. Well that's the question. I mean, thanks for
Speaker 1: the call. I mean, that's that's the big question right
Speaker 1: there about why doesn't that guy, you know, why doesn't
Speaker 1: Tyrann Smith. But if you watch him play, even practice,
Speaker 1: I mean he's got to get elbow pads and and
Speaker 1: and all this. He looks like a robot out there,
Speaker 1: and so to get him on the move, I don't
Speaker 1: think he does that as much. That's probably my reason
Speaker 1: of why you don't see him doing that as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the question also becomes, even if he could with
Speaker 1: his injury history, at some point, do you say we
Speaker 1: don't want to put him at risk because when he's
Speaker 1: doing that kind of stuff, there's probably a little more
Speaker 1: risk of injury. Wham the nose, Yeah, wham. This is
Speaker 1: exactly what I was thinking. Wham the nose, Like it's there,
Speaker 1: there's more of a chance of injury. So there are
Speaker 1: lots of things that factor into why an offensive coordinator
Speaker 1: would say, hey, let's not do this as much anymore,
Speaker 1: or let's do more of this. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: as simple as just well, it worked before, so let's
Speaker 1: just keep doing it. I think there are a lot
Speaker 1: of factors involved. It's a technique that Bill teaches. It's
Speaker 1: a reach technique. Instead of reaching flat, he teaches to reach,
Speaker 1: take your foot reach for depth, and then the angle
Speaker 1: will get you back up the field. Instead of going
Speaker 1: flat and just getting flattened out. He teaches depth and
Speaker 1: then the depth opens your hips and then get you
Speaker 1: around up the field. So what happens to you is
Speaker 1: like I say, you just don't keep pushing flat flat,
Speaker 1: flat flat, and then there's the defender has that opportunity.
Speaker 1: Depth allows you that defenders kind of in the like,
Speaker 1: oh I don't feel that tackle now the tackles in
Speaker 1: a position with this angle to cut that playoff. It's
Speaker 1: just a technique thing that Bill used to teach it.
Speaker 1: Actually do it on the backside to Doug Free would
Speaker 1: do it too on some of the stuff that they
Speaker 1: would have, So it's something that they do the draw
Speaker 1: stuff is really all about fronts. It's about the front.
Speaker 1: If you have a front that's really aggressive and plays
Speaker 1: gaps that they're they're you know, like this this team,
Speaker 1: the Texans are a slant team and you know, and
Speaker 1: we've talked about Rod Marinelli because of Lovey Smith is
Speaker 1: a disciple of Rod Marinelli. They'll play gaps. So you'll
Speaker 1: see guys jumping in gaps, you know, and trying to
Speaker 1: quickly get into those gaps. So sometimes though those draw
Speaker 1: plays don't work as well against those teams. If you
Speaker 1: have teams that play two gap, then you can kind
Speaker 1: of hold them at the line and they're trying they're
Speaker 1: looking for the ball, they're trying to and they're thinking
Speaker 1: pass rus so they're trying to get up the field
Speaker 1: and that's where you pop the draw on them. Stuff
Speaker 1: like that. So depending on if you have teams that
Speaker 1: are aggressive, that sometimes that could disrupt your draw. But
Speaker 1: if you have teams that play a little two gap
Speaker 1: or kind of they they're looking for where the ball
Speaker 1: is and then they're saying, oh, there isn't they're thinking pass,
Speaker 1: so that now they rush and then the ball goes
Speaker 1: right by them. That's that's really the kind of the
Speaker 1: difference there. One was a technique thing and the other
Speaker 1: was like when teams played two gap against you. All right,
Speaker 1: next question from Noah Brown. He says, how much, if anything,
Speaker 1: can we expect from the bench this week? Right? How
Speaker 1: much if anything? From former Vikings cornerback McKenzie Alexander. I
Speaker 1: talked to some teams about him that know him very
Speaker 1: very well and kind of got a little bit of
Speaker 1: a thumbnail about him. He's a he is an inside player,
Speaker 1: only like a slot corner. Kind of grabby, kind of
Speaker 1: a handsy kind of a player. Seven year vet. He's
Speaker 1: five ten, one hundred nineties two pounds, I think is
Speaker 1: what he is. But everybody I've talked to about him
Speaker 1: is he's a guy that's capable of playing in the slot.
Speaker 1: That's what he does the best. You put him on
Speaker 1: the outside, it's not as as good as when you
Speaker 1: play him inside. Guys felt like around the league he
Speaker 1: still had something left, you know, but he was He
Speaker 1: had an injury settlement, I believe in Miami in September.
Speaker 1: Didn't do anything until he got put on the practice
Speaker 1: squad with the Cowboys. So he's probably been dealing with
Speaker 1: a little bit of trying to get healthy and get
Speaker 1: things going back, but really just it's a slot player
Speaker 1: only maybe that's something that they're looking at for their team,
Speaker 1: and you really want to have a backup guy there.
Speaker 1: I mean, dron Bland has done it, and he's done
Speaker 1: it well and he keeps getting better and better. But
Speaker 1: you do want a guy, you know, and maybe he's
Speaker 1: the call up on game day where you know you
Speaker 1: can play some special teams. But also like if anything
Speaker 1: were to happen in the game, because I don't think
Speaker 1: Joseph's a guy that you can slide in there. I
Speaker 1: don't think Nishan Wright can do it. You need a
Speaker 1: veteran guy who can do it. Question from Charlie Hill,
Speaker 1: how concerned are you about the secondary at this point?
Speaker 1: Not Sunday, not really concerned, just in general going down,
Speaker 1: going down the stretch right without the two cornerbacks start.
Speaker 1: I think you've got a great corner. I think you
Speaker 1: have an all pro corner and Treyvon Diggs. Yeah, most
Speaker 1: teams don't have two really good receivers and so he
Speaker 1: can he can match up. He's shown that Philly has
Speaker 1: two good receivers and that's a team you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to face I think San Francisco has got some teams
Speaker 1: to play receivers as well. If you have to face
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, that could be a challenge. So when you yeah, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: maybe Minna commanders, everybody but the Giants at the Giants
Speaker 1: are to get in, they don't really have their receivers
Speaker 1: that you would have. Washington have another one that you know,
Speaker 1: I mean because McLaurin and hasn't really done much on dig.
Speaker 1: But there another guy, Yeah, the kid that they drafted
Speaker 1: from Penn State Dots. Yeah, he's coming onto. Yeah, Samuel
Speaker 1: the Gay. So I just Seattle. Did you say Seattle? No,
Speaker 1: I didn't say Seattle, but yeah, I got to yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah. So that's I think when when you're
Speaker 1: facing some corners, I mean some of some teams that
Speaker 1: have different different weapons there. Yeah, I think it's something
Speaker 1: to look at and see if if what Joseph does,
Speaker 1: what what these corners do here in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: This is where dan Quinn owned, Uh, it's gonna get
Speaker 1: his money. I mean, if he can find figure out
Speaker 1: way he knows what he's got potentially at corner he
Speaker 1: knows he like Nick says he's got an All Pro
Speaker 1: and one, and he knows that teams are not going
Speaker 1: to attack the All Pro. They're going to attack the
Speaker 1: other guys whoever you line up over on the other side.
Speaker 1: So Quinn's gonna have to figure out ways to mask
Speaker 1: what he's got over there, whether it's through coverage where
Speaker 1: he rolls guys up, where he puts guys over the top,
Speaker 1: where the brackets, where he buzzes line backers out in
Speaker 1: the flat. He's gonna have to figure out ways to
Speaker 1: help Joseph playing these games. He knows he can leave
Speaker 1: Digs by himself and he'll be fine, don't worry about that.
Speaker 1: All the other resources in the secondary need to be
Speaker 1: talked or focused on Joseph or whoever plays that left
Speaker 1: corner for the Cowboys. I trust Dan Quinn, but I
Speaker 1: don't trust the timetable, So I don't trust the timing
Speaker 1: and what's left for a guy like Kelvin Joseph to
Speaker 1: be able to grow into what the Cowboys need him
Speaker 1: to be. So that's the biggest concern there for me. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's gonna I personally, I am quite concerned about it,
Speaker 1: just because I think it's not just the loss of
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown. I mean, you've got Jordan Lewis also, who
Speaker 1: I think people are forgotten about it. So really you're
Speaker 1: down to the fourth cornerback and the fifth cornerback. I
Speaker 1: think Deron Bland is a really good cornerbas I do
Speaker 1: think though he is young and inexperienced, and you start
Speaker 1: playing teams that I have more experienced receivers with better
Speaker 1: quarterback acts like you will in the playoffs, I think
Speaker 1: that could still be a challenge. And then obviously Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph being out there, so I am very concerned about it.
Speaker 1: I want to see how well they adapted. Maybe they
Speaker 1: step up to the challenge. Maybe dan Quinn finds a
Speaker 1: way to limit their liability. I think all those things
Speaker 1: are possible, But until I see it, that's an area
Speaker 1: of concern for me. All right, let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Let's figure out what you guys think is gonna happen
Speaker 1: this weekend. Cowboys versus Texans. Let's start with you, Nick.
Speaker 1: I think Dallas is just way better. I think that
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter or second half, I think Houston
Speaker 1: will probably get a little points thereant make some plays.
Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be completely like dominant, Like you know,
Speaker 1: thirty forty point win. I got thirty four sixteen. Forgot
Speaker 1: what I said on the radio, but I think it's
Speaker 1: like thirty four to sixteen. That's what I'm looking at. Amber.
Speaker 1: I think it goes over the forty again. I think
Speaker 1: this is a perfect game for them to do, so
Speaker 1: I think the defense is gonna be on fire. But
Speaker 1: I do think that something's gonna happen on Kelvin Josef's
Speaker 1: side or gonna do something, and that would allow for
Speaker 1: at least a touchdown or some type of score, whether
Speaker 1: it's a field goal or an actual touchdown for Houston.
Speaker 1: But Cowboys, this is gonna be a blowout. Twenty eight
Speaker 1: to nine, that's what this is gonna be. And you know,
Speaker 1: Cowboys could go again in the thirties or forties, like
Speaker 1: Amber always talks about, just kind of feel like that
Speaker 1: they'll get their four touchdowns, will figure out a way
Speaker 1: to play defense. Davis Mills probably won't do very much
Speaker 1: till you need to hold the running game in check.
Speaker 1: But I could see some mistakes along the way. I
Speaker 1: could see the Texans having to kick field goals. They
Speaker 1: got a good field goal kicker, you know, maybe they
Speaker 1: don't get in the red zone like you know, or
Speaker 1: finish off drive. So twenty eight to nine with the
Speaker 1: Cowboys today, all right, Yeah, I think I agree with
Speaker 1: everybody here. I do think by halftime, though, I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna be doing a lot of what everybody was
Speaker 1: doing last week, where they're like, man, what's going on?
Speaker 1: Why it's this team blown out yet? And I think
Speaker 1: once you get to that point halftime will happen. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys will get rolling. I think the final score is
Speaker 1: forty one nine. I think it's another forty point game
Speaker 1: for them. Again. I just think I just think once
Speaker 1: they figure it out and start rolling, the better teams
Speaker 1: have not been able to stop the Cowboys once they
Speaker 1: start rolling, So I expect them to get rolling at
Speaker 1: some point. I just don't know when that's going to happen,
Speaker 1: because the Cowboys get slow starts. And I do think
Speaker 1: the sexist team will be as excited as they possibly
Speaker 1: can and will throw out everything they can possibly throw
Speaker 1: out and throw out the Cowboys this week to try
Speaker 1: to get this win. It just won't be enough. They're
Speaker 1: just not as good a team. All right, Appreciate you guys,
Speaker 1: joining us. We'll be back on Monday. Let you know
Speaker 1: what when right and wrong for the Cowboys still then
Speaker 1: for Nicki, when Brian brought us Amber Garcia. I am
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