WEBVTT - Packing for Mars with Mary Roach

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff from the Science Lab from how stuff

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<v Speaker 1>works dot com. Hey guys, I'm welcome to stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>the Science Lab. This is Alice Madamel, the science editor

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<v Speaker 1>how stuff works dot com. And this is Robert Lamb,

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<v Speaker 1>science writer at how stuff works dot com. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and here at Stuff in the Science Lab. We're big

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<v Speaker 1>fans of Mary Roach, who if you're not familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>her work, she's a science writer and she's written the

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<v Speaker 1>book Stiff, Spook, Bunk, and now Packing for Mars, The

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<v Speaker 1>Curious Science of Life in the Void. Yeah, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was released as the summer Yeah. Her her three previous

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<v Speaker 1>books are all great. Uh. Stiff deals with the story

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<v Speaker 1>of human cadavers. Interestingly, when we interviewed her, she was

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<v Speaker 1>saying that she didn't think that book would sell. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>she well, she's been surprised at at how some of

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<v Speaker 1>her follow up books didn't like instantly surpassed that one,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, cadaver's Okay. Then the second one, Spook,

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<v Speaker 1>was about um science and the supernatural, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>a really great book. I read that one. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the third one was about sex balk and uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>she she was sure that one was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the big you know, the one that's gonna be even

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<v Speaker 1>more of a hit. But but Stiff is remaining like

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<v Speaker 1>the colossal best seller of the of her work so far.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're all they're all great. Yeah, yeah, we highly

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<v Speaker 1>advocate reading them. Um. So we did have the chance

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<v Speaker 1>to interview her, and uh, we're gonna share some of

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<v Speaker 1>that interview with you guys today. So I thought one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things that she did really well is just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of breaking down the mythology of the astronaut and

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<v Speaker 1>making astronauts into just regular old humans. Here she is

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the first astronaut she met. I remember, um,

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<v Speaker 1>my first astronaut. You know, I was down at Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>Space Center and I had never I've never met an

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<v Speaker 1>astronaut and it was the skuy Lee Moore and he's

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<v Speaker 1>just this this regular guys wearing kind of a yeah

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<v Speaker 1>Hawaiian shirt and cheenose and brown shoes. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to meet an astroid and I meet this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like oh my god, they're just people for starters,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so the whole like mythology, Uh this doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>you know. You meet you meet them and right away

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<v Speaker 1>you realize they're just they're just people. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>start to learn about what they go through all the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you were saying, plus some of the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of worrisome physiological changes, and it's yeah, very quickly

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<v Speaker 1>ceases to be this high glamour job. Yeah. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you asked her if there was one particular example of

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<v Speaker 1>a space absurdity that really just made her side. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is my next book. This is what I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to explore next. I think that there was that paper

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<v Speaker 1>I came across fairly early on, when I was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure I was going to do it, but not entirely sure.

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<v Speaker 1>It came across this paper from n on Space Nutrition

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<v Speaker 1>and Related waste problems, and it was these guys sort

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking outside box about Mars, and they were, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're it's two to three your mission and food

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<v Speaker 1>is you can't pack lots of delicious food and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>launch it for a crew of six or three years.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were thinking like, well, we could we could

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<v Speaker 1>create clothing out of edible keratin fibers that they could

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<v Speaker 1>wear for a while and then when they were done

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<v Speaker 1>wearing it, they could eat it. And then there was

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who was saying that, um, uh well, they

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<v Speaker 1>could um actually be eating pieces of the spacecraft. We

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<v Speaker 1>could you make these edible proteins for some of the

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<v Speaker 1>interiors of that we won't be neating after we've been

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<v Speaker 1>on the surface of Mars when we were coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll just eat that, eat that module. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>just this sort of plus the you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>very very extreme recycling that would have to be done

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of, um, drinking your own sweat and urine.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that I think at that point I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is this Narry roach country. So of course we

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<v Speaker 1>had to ask her if she was a space geet

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<v Speaker 1>going in to writing the book or if she became

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<v Speaker 1>one in the process, And it turns out she was

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of one beforehand, but uh but in

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<v Speaker 1>writing the book, she found herself like watching NASA TV

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. So so here's what she had to

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<v Speaker 1>say about that. I was a space a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a space geek. I never watched Star Trek and

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't a science fiction reader. But I did a

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<v Speaker 1>story at this for Discover magazine years ago where I

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<v Speaker 1>went to the neutral Buoyancy tank, which is that just

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the size of the Gulf of Mexico. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's heat, but it's this huge swimming pool that

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<v Speaker 1>they submerged pieces of the International Space Station and then

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<v Speaker 1>have the astronauts rehearse really addressed rehearsal, wearing their actual suits,

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<v Speaker 1>um rehearse all the moves that they're going to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember just being kind of overwhelmed by the

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<v Speaker 1>delightful geekiness of it all. And you know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>am kind of a geek, so um NASA was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the magical kingdom in a way. I was like, all,

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<v Speaker 1>get all this stuff, you know, just there's just all

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<v Speaker 1>manner of things you never would imagine existing are down there.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about how the public's perception and enthusiasm

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<v Speaker 1>for space exploration has kind of waxed and waned over

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<v Speaker 1>the years. You even mentioned to say that it might

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<v Speaker 1>be a little boring now. Definitely been boring for for

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<v Speaker 1>a while there, because they started out really exciting with

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<v Speaker 1>space exploration. You know, these people are going out in

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<v Speaker 1>the space, they're getting stuff down their cowboys, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was this long period of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>to most people, I think, kind of boring science experiments

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<v Speaker 1>in space so yeah, we had to ask Mary where

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<v Speaker 1>where where she thought we are now and where we're going? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and how we could turn things around fair space exploration.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're at a point where we could turn

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<v Speaker 1>it around and make it not boring by going somewhere new,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I think that the the Moon base UM plan,

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<v Speaker 1>the plan to go back and people for six months

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<v Speaker 1>or more to live on the moon. UM. I think

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<v Speaker 1>just because it's the Moon and people feel the general

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<v Speaker 1>public feels like, well, we've we've been there, we went

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<v Speaker 1>there seven times, um, why why are we going back?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that um to just simply to go somewhere new.

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<v Speaker 1>If not, if they you know, the partisan bickering and

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<v Speaker 1>the policy and the politics can sort of if they

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<v Speaker 1>can sort out where they where we're gonna what we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do, where we're gonna go, and I think you

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<v Speaker 1>you really and it's somewhere new, you really could start

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<v Speaker 1>to capture people's imaginations again. Uh, it wouldn't doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be Mars, I mean near with that story, just

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<v Speaker 1>something that is um different and exciting for people. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's still even when we were in orbit, um

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of really really interesting cool stuff was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>It just doesn't always get reported that way or reported

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<v Speaker 1>at all. So we we also asked her how astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>have changed, or rather the role of the astronaut has

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<v Speaker 1>changed again from the cowboys of the rights off to

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<v Speaker 1>the more you know, the more the scientist astronaut we

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<v Speaker 1>have today. Um, so she talked a little about about that,

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<v Speaker 1>about the class between the old school and the new

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<v Speaker 1>school scientist. They couldn't be more different. It really was

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<v Speaker 1>eighty degree turn on on on what makes the perfect

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<v Speaker 1>astronaut because you got the you know, early on one guy,

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<v Speaker 1>so it didn't matter if he didn't play well with others.

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<v Speaker 1>You have one guy in an a mission that's a

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<v Speaker 1>few hours long, and so what you want is somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who's aggressive, brave, unfazed by high risk, uh able to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with an emergency, calm and an emergency. That that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the right stuff, which became very much the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong stuff by the time we get to the Shuttle

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<v Speaker 1>era where you've got or the I S S even

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<v Speaker 1>more to the point where you've got six months and

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<v Speaker 1>longer missions and five six people, then you really don't

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want that kind of personality. You would want

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's you know, the list of attributes I love some

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<v Speaker 1>of them, like ability to form stable and quality interpersonal

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<v Speaker 1>relationship because they've liked John Glenn. Can you imagine area

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<v Speaker 1>that being even the word relationships entering into it, you know, flexibility, fairness, empathy,

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<v Speaker 1>all these things that you don't you don't really associate

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<v Speaker 1>with the right stuff. But then going going into the future,

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<v Speaker 1>if we do go to Mars, then you then you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of want both of those because it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a bigger crew, so you want people who get

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<v Speaker 1>along well in the group. But then again you also

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<v Speaker 1>needs a self starter and somebody who can deal with

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<v Speaker 1>emergencies with sort of leadership and calm, you know that

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<v Speaker 1>that whole right stuff things. So I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to find up these people. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a super human combination. People are usually one

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<v Speaker 1>or the other. Speaking of the perfect astronaut, we went

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<v Speaker 1>through this crazy list of physiological traits um that some

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<v Speaker 1>space agencies think are important for astronauts to have. And

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<v Speaker 1>it was because it was a funny exchange. So here's

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<v Speaker 1>this chatting about how that astronaut might turn out if

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<v Speaker 1>all the various random traits were taken into account. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's all these you could get well, and they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about you. She look for people whose intestinal flora

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<v Speaker 1>did not produce methane because that's explosive. So you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>look at what kind of what their farts contain, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, somebody who's snores, because that wakes everybody up.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want something with bad breath. That's the Chinese

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<v Speaker 1>Space Agency. Also African American women, Uh well, we're after

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<v Speaker 1>women in general because they consume less oxygen than food.

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<v Speaker 1>African Americans sticker bone density so uk. So you want

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<v Speaker 1>a deaf, mute African American woman who does not snore

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<v Speaker 1>and doesn't produce methane. And then on top of that

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<v Speaker 1>the right personality. Of course, as you know, science writers

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<v Speaker 1>and science hitters. We had to ask her about her

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<v Speaker 1>her method uh in writing this book and really kind

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<v Speaker 1>of writing all of them. And what's amazing about her

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<v Speaker 1>writing is that she's not just summarizing journal findings or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of twisting the research into a new

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<v Speaker 1>light or even um, I mean, she is very much

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<v Speaker 1>translating it into layman's terms, much as we hope to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's getting to people in the flesh, she's talking

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<v Speaker 1>to them, she's making them come alive on the page.

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<v Speaker 1>And also Mary Roach is very much a character in

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<v Speaker 1>her own books. You know, it's like you're really right

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<v Speaker 1>there with Mary in each of these as she goes

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<v Speaker 1>out and talks to these people, you know, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and really learns, so you know what the dirt is

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<v Speaker 1>on everything from corpses to going into space. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>here she is talking a little bit about storytelling and

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<v Speaker 1>her method of putting together books and why science isn't boring.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, when I contact people frequently, they say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send you a paper and we can talk, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always having to write back and say, now, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really work very well for readers that way. I

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<v Speaker 1>need to actually come visit you and be there and

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<v Speaker 1>see what you're doing and have a scene with people

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<v Speaker 1>who are talking to each other and doing things. And

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<v Speaker 1>even that, isn't that a traditional book narrative? Usually that's

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<v Speaker 1>a through line all the way through the book, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is Yeah, that's another way to do it, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best way. But even just having a chapter

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<v Speaker 1>by chapter a setting in a narrative framework to hang

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<v Speaker 1>the facts on helps a lot and getting people interested

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<v Speaker 1>in science because people have this notion that science is boring,

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<v Speaker 1>which kind of blows my mind, because science is scientists,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you. You know, it's your your audience, your backyard,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your dog, it's the weather, it is it is everything,

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<v Speaker 1>And how how could you possibly think it's boring? But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's often along scientists because they're at such

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<v Speaker 1>a high level of understanding it. It is boring to

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<v Speaker 1>the general public to pick up a paper from a journal.

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<v Speaker 1>So you do have to as a science writer, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a title like I guess I were, But um,

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<v Speaker 1>you do have to find ways to make it accessible

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<v Speaker 1>and make it real and storytelling is I think the

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<v Speaker 1>best way. You know, she really got some amazing details

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff that we never hear about, at least not

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<v Speaker 1>regularly and and not certainly not stuff that NASA broadcasts. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much the messy realities of motion, sickness and going

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<v Speaker 1>to the bathroom in space and all sorts of good

0:12:13.720 --> 0:12:16.920
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. So I was asking her if astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>were relieved to finally lift the curtain on the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of life and space and sometimes smelly reality of life

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<v Speaker 1>and space well, the cosmonauts in general are just very straightforward,

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<v Speaker 1>just just lay it on the line kind of people.

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<v Speaker 1>There's less concern I think about what is the proper

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<v Speaker 1>thing to say? Maybe, so just culturally, they're a little

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<v Speaker 1>more free wheeling in their conversations. And in fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>was surprised by if you sit down and have a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with an astronaut, even an active astronaut, not retired,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always easier when somebody's retired, but any and you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about a range of topics, uh not just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sex and poop. If you if you're having an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about larger issues of space exploration and challenges, and

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<v Speaker 1>you eventually make your way around to something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. I think what bothers them is when you

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<v Speaker 1>specifically would request, if you were to request an interview

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about um, sex and space, because that, I think

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<v Speaker 1>to them kind of it's kind of consulting in a

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<v Speaker 1>way like that, that that that that this is the

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<v Speaker 1>most interesting thing that the public can find, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when they do what they do, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>research that they do, and it's it is interesting in

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<v Speaker 1>its own right, and so I think it's frustrating when

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<v Speaker 1>people only ask about those things. So if you, if you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you bring it up in a in a larger context,

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<v Speaker 1>they're fine talking about it and along those lines. Because

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<v Speaker 1>again there's this whole chapter just on going to the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom instead. Yeah, it's it's it's you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>only read one chapter in this book, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like it's the one to read. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to you know, I have to say

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I knew a lot about going to the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom and space going in because we even did that

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<v Speaker 1>whole part. We did a podcast on it, I've written

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<v Speaker 1>about it, and but now Mary had some stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>I was not prepared for. Hcapees. Yeah, I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>a John Stewart clip. She was on a John Stewart

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<v Speaker 1>and they had everywhere. Yeah, she's really been doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pr for us. She was talking about escapees.

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<v Speaker 1>So I had to ask her which she thought was grosser.

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<v Speaker 1>Um a phenomenon called fecal popcorning. Oh that's still against

0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:39.000
<v Speaker 1>me every time, or the the fecal glove. So here,

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. Here's what she had to say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're a dog owner, probably not that

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<v Speaker 1>big a deal, because it's really like, you know, those

0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.760
<v Speaker 1>people go walk down the street with a New York

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<v Speaker 1>Times sleeve plastic newspaper, sleep and pick up their dog poop,

0:14:52.480 --> 0:14:55.880
<v Speaker 1>turned it inside out. Done, No big deal. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would imagine somebody was used to that, wouldn't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is your own material, which is a little unusual.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, I think that the the issue with the

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<v Speaker 1>shuttle toilet with with escape ease as they called it,

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<v Speaker 1>with little pieces um escaping and making their way around

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<v Speaker 1>um the capsule or the module or the shuttle in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, what is very very distasteful. I mean, there

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<v Speaker 1>was there was a mission I think I mentioned the

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<v Speaker 1>book where there was sort of dust because the materials

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<v Speaker 1>are sort of quick dried, and the dust would when

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<v Speaker 1>the dust came out, you're inhaling that and that's a

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing and also you don't necessarily want that in your lungs.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that that was the high tech I

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<v Speaker 1>would guess that when the high tech device malfunctions, um,

0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:44.680
<v Speaker 1>it is more. In fact, I know it is because

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<v Speaker 1>there were people on that mission who opted not to

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<v Speaker 1>use the shuttle toilet and used the contingency, which was

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<v Speaker 1>the fecal bag because they of that problem with this,

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<v Speaker 1>they called it flow back. It was that dust that

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<v Speaker 1>was escaping and flying around. I think it was the Shuttle,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps it was the I S. S. But either way,

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<v Speaker 1>they preferred to deal with the indignities of the fecule

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<v Speaker 1>bag then to be inhaling that stuff. So that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>men wraps it up. But I do want to end

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<v Speaker 1>with Mary's take on the future of man space flight.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see a Man marsmis partly because

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<v Speaker 1>you know what this is something I didn't realize before

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<v Speaker 1>I did the book. But every program has kind of

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<v Speaker 1>been preparing for the next Like Gemini was just flat

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<v Speaker 1>out working out the kinks for a moonshot. It was like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's practice stalking in space. Let's see what happens to

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<v Speaker 1>two people's skin if they were spaces for two weeks

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<v Speaker 1>without a shower. Let's figure out all the steps here

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<v Speaker 1>in orbit, and then we go into the Moon. So

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<v Speaker 1>Gemini was preparation for Apollo. The International Space Station has

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<v Speaker 1>been this ten year exercising global space cooperation, all these

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<v Speaker 1>different nations communicating, participating, lending expertise and funding, and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole aim of that was too prepare for long term

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<v Speaker 1>space life in space, which was the whole idea. There

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<v Speaker 1>was um getting ready for Mars. So to stop now

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<v Speaker 1>seems like, well, what was all that about? What was

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<v Speaker 1>the past fifty years about? If we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>go on to Mars? So, I mean, I know that's

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<v Speaker 1>not you know, obviously there's budget issues. It's very expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love it to be a wed love to

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<v Speaker 1>see it, you know, an international effort where a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of different nations are contributing money and expertise, and also

0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:29.760
<v Speaker 1>just everybody on the planet would be watching. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of an amazing event, uh, for the world

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<v Speaker 1>to witness. So, I mean it makes me become set.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably it probably won't happen in my lifetime. I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fifty one, and uh, if we'd be lucky to

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<v Speaker 1>have this happening, I think unless somebody proposes something really radical,

0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:52.800
<v Speaker 1>like one way mission with people go and then just

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<v Speaker 1>live the rest of their lives there and because then

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the tricky part is coming back. So

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<v Speaker 1>there you have it. Our interview with Mary Roach. She

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<v Speaker 1>shared a lot of great stuff and was just a

0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.040
<v Speaker 1>real pleasure to talk to um. Just you know she

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<v Speaker 1>turned out. We were wondering, it's like, oh, she's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be like she is in the book, you know, is

0:18:09.480 --> 0:18:11.399
<v Speaker 1>it gonna be the same experience, and and it really is.

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<v Speaker 1>She was. She was great. Yeah, you know. We asked

0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:16.320
<v Speaker 1>whether she would pack from ours and she said no,

0:18:16.640 --> 0:18:19.440
<v Speaker 1>not the personality type permission to Mars, but a two

0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.200
<v Speaker 1>week trip to the moon signed Mary up. After all,

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<v Speaker 1>she did climb aboard the Vomit comment ak a the

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<v Speaker 1>C nine, So I think she's pretty much game for

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<v Speaker 1>just about anything, including topics. So yeah, if you've never

0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.000
<v Speaker 1>read anything by Mary Roach, check those out. Um. She

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<v Speaker 1>also did a ted talk um having to do with

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<v Speaker 1>with like ten like things about sex um that came

0:18:39.480 --> 0:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>out around the time of her Bok books. So also

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<v Speaker 1>you do a ted talk search on that or a

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube search and you can you can find that. Yeah,

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